It is official
What's the over/under on how many weeks until we see the first "pre Pure Fishing" Flatt Shad, Koolie Minnow and/or Magic Swimmer ad on the flea market forum? ;D
QuoteWhat's the over/under on how many weeks until we see the first "pre Pure Fishing" Flatt Shad, Koolie Minnow and/or Magic Swimmer ad on the flea market forum? ;D
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I hope PF doesn't ruin Sebile stuff. I really like their stuff I have now.
I hate this giant conglomerate stuff but maybe just maybe it'll get better like Penn improved recently.
I wonder what a master lure maker who travels anywhere to fish for everything, will do with all that new $ and free time. I wish he was my Dad!
Patrick seemed so passionate about his lures. I wonder if he will still be apart of the design of the lures at all. I really liked his enthusiasm in his demonstrations.
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Looks like he will still be involved with the company. Glad to hear that.
Last month on the season premier of Hunt for Big Fish he talked about how he had new and interesting ideas he was working on bring out.
QuoteI hate this giant conglomerate stuff but maybe just maybe it'll get better like Penn improved recently.I wonder what a master lure maker who travels anywhere to fish for everything, will do with all that new $ and free time. I wish he was my Dad!
If you look at what PF in recent years, it has improved products, ABU, Pflueger, Berkley, not destroyed them.
I agree, that was my point. But its still not good for the consumer when everything is eaten up and owned by just 3 or 4 parent companies.
QuoteI agree, that was my point. But its still not good for the consumer when everything is eaten up and owned by just 3 or 4 parent companies.
sure it is, it lowers cost, raises production, extends distribution and improves development.
yeah and wipes out the little guy and destroys the american dream and makes for a microeconomy which sets prices that in the long term are not beneficial to the consumer. And ultimately your wallet looses.
Quoteyeah and wipes out the little guy and destroys the american dream and makes for a microeconomy which sets prices that in the long term are not beneficial to the consumer. And ultimately your wallet looses.
x2!!
Quoteyeah and wipes out the little guy and destroys the american dream and makes for a microeconomy which sets prices that in the long term are not beneficial to the consumer. And ultimately your wallet looses.
On the other hand, we're that much closer to a "Rollerball" scenario.
Quoteyeah and wipes out the little guy and destroys the american dream
Maybe we could have Patrick Sebile tell us if he feels "wiped out" after he cashes his check from Pure Fishing. It appears to me that he is a shining example of what the american dream is all about.
steve
QuoteQuoteyeah and wipes out the little guy and destroys the american dreamMaybe we could have Patrick Sebile tell us if he feels "wiped out" after he cashes his check from Pure Fishing. It appears to me that he is a shining example of what the american dream is all about.
steve
Which isn't bad for a Frenchman.
Quoteyeah and wipes out the little guy and destroys the american dream
For the record.. The previous owner of Sebile is French..
I'm just sayin. :-/
I've never used a Sebile lure.. how do you guys like them?
Im not talking about Sebile making out. Im not talking about an immigrant making the american dream. Im talking how $18.32 for a 8pk of shrimptails by Trigger-X a.k.a. Sufix a.k.a. Rapala is ultimately good for Mr. Conglomerate but hurts us. Because thats the price they are on the shelf at BPS right now. And if you think $17.00 is alot for a Sebile Magic Swimmer now how much more are they gonna be when Pure Fishing uses the excuse they are now tested in their state of the art complex in Iowa, to set the price even higher. Its Gulp all over again.
Some folks need to take an economics class or business class and learn the basics of supply and demand. I'm just saying...
and for Mr Sebile, Millions for the name and rights. a big salary to continue making and designing baits and non of the responsibility or head ache of running a business. Sounds pretty dang good to me.
I would be curious what Matt or Bobby would have to say about this? get Millions for your company name. still get to design and make new baits and collect a fat check... How about it?
QuoteI've never used a Sebile lure.. how do you guys like them?
I'm a big fan of their Flat Shad lipless cranks, one of the best out there in my opinion.
QuoteI've never used a Sebile lure.. how do you guys like them?
the splashers are awesome as well, and I also like the koolie minnows and the rattlesters as well, not so hot on the bonga minnows tho.
QuoteI've never used a Sebile lure.. how do you guys like them?
I'm pretty successful with Magic Swimmer hard bait:
here's some results:
Business class and the science of economics teaches you whats good for business not whats good for your wallet. Business and the economy preys on the consumer it never benefits its. Keep dreaming
QuoteQuoteyeah and wipes out the little guy and destroys the american dreamFor the record.. The previous owner of Sebile is French..
I'm just sayin. :-/
What an entrepreneur. Created a business, got his money, and got out. 8-)
Im talking about Pure Fishing, how conglomerates are eating up the Patrick Sebiles not the guy himself. Besides since when is a non american citizen entitled to the 'american dream'? As if the american dream was anything but a notion dreamed up by corporate owned media anyway.
QuoteOn the other hand, we're that much closer to a "Rollerball" scenario.
You better be careful, Pantera - you could be the Jonathon E of this board...
QuoteIm talking about Pure Fishing, how conglomerates are eating up the Patrick Sebiles not the guy himself. Besides since when is a non american citizen entitled to the 'american dream'? As if the american dream was anything but a notion dreamed up by corporate owned media anyway.
First off "conglomerates" will never eat all the little guys of this industry. Anglers, my self included will buy or try any bait from anyone if it means gaining an edge in a tourny or catching bigger and more fish. Having something unique, special, secret, unknown is the heart of the bait monkey. If anything it will cause more popularity for these baits which means those in the know will start to look for the next big unknown while Sebile becomes just another bait on the shelf. this industry is very unique in the fact no matter how big Pure or Pradco or Rapala become they will never put the indie's out of business. They will just make the former owners very rich.
Your post are very political, sounds like you might have an ax to grind. The point of my post was simply to inform not discus capitalism.
Glenn or J, I think it is time to put Irene to sleep. ;D
Yeah......
QuoteBesides since when is a non american citizen entitled to the 'american dream'?
I thought that was the "American Dream." I mean, that's how it workeed for my great grandparents when they emigrated........
At any rate, the wheels have come off this one.