New Age Staples 2025
sneddog44 reply :
The past couple of years have brought a lot of new products for bass fishing. Some that flopped and some that became apparent in anglers lineups.
Some that I can think of are spybaits, Tokyo rigs, Ned Rigs and many others. I just looked at the Jackall Pompadour and thought of it as sort of a new age bait.
What are some of the newer lures and tactics that are now heavily used in your arsenal?
TnRiver46 reply :
None of them....... I'm the opposite of a gear head .
Jermination reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 4:00 AM, sneddog44 said:The past couple of years have brought a lot of new products for bass fishing. Some that flopped and some that became apparent in anglers lineups.
Some that I can think of are spybaits, Tokyo rigs, Ned Rigs and many others. I just looked at the Jackall Pompadour and thought of it as sort of a new age bait.
What are some of the newer lures and tactics that are now heavily used in your arsenal?
Have two of the three you mentioned there tied on my deck pretty much at all times. I'm old school in the fact i still love throwing "new" discontinued lures: xcalibur xcs, excalibur spittin image, excalibur/rebel shad-R. Obviously these are old discontinued lures but i still feel like they get the "new" approach from fish because they just don't see them very often. The new Suspending lipless baits have been very good to me lately. I still enjoy the old school cotton cordell suspending spot but IMA & 6th sense seem to have a really good new product
JediAmoeba reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 4:02 AM, TnRiver46 said:None of them....... I'm the opposite of a gear head .
I don't know what the laws are and what permits I may need for shipping live pets from Pa to Tn, but I have this Monkey I am looking to get rid of...
TnRiver46 reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 4:13 AM, JediAmoeba said:I don't know what the laws are and what permits I may need for shipping live pets from Pa to Tn, but I have this Monkey I am looking to get rid of...
Hahaha! I can see the UPS man bringing the box to my door and the bait monkey jumping out ........
No fishing plugs can hide from @Jermination. He has a special set of skills and he will find you .
J Francho reply :
Can't catch bass with quinoa or yoga! 
TnRiver46 reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 4:19 AM, J Francho said:Can't catch bass with quinoa or yoga!
I bet I could make the quinoa into an egg sack and catch a rainbow
Jermination reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 4:15 AM, TnRiver46 said:
No fishing plugs can hide from @Jermination. He has a special set of skills and he will find you .
thats right! i give my fair share back to the environment as well LOL
TnRiver46 reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 4:35 AM, Jermination said:thats right! i give my fair share back to the environment as well LOL
Yeah I've got a sprinker frog still orbiting the earth somewhere. Got a little too excited throwing 50 lb braid as hard as I could
Jermination reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 4:41 AM, TnRiver46 said:Yeah I've got a sprinker frog still orbiting the earth somewhere. Got a little too excited throwing 50 lb braid as hard as I could
i mean, you could check floating dock cables across various lakes throughout the state & find enough of my stuff to fill a box
DitchPanda reply :
The only fairly new thing I throw are at all are ned rigs. Never tried tokyo...don't own a plopper but throw buzzbaits with good success. I'm intrigued by spybaits but don't fish the right conditions for them to shine. I actually over the past few years found myself going back to old-school stuff id gone away from...namely spinnerbaits. I had gotten away from them because of bladed jigs but realized they aren't the same baits and I need to throw both.
JediAmoeba reply :
I am going to come out and say, I dont think a lot of those aforementioned lures/techniques are new. To me most of them are just refinements on old techniques.
I am finding myself using the ned rig but I was using ballhead jigs and curly tail grubs 20 years ago to catch bass when conditions were tough - elaztech and the jig shape are minor adjustments but still getting the same point across.
I was using a whopper popper 20 some years ago too for musky in the form of a top raider(still works better than a whopper plopper IMO).
It's cool to see these "new" baits come around but I am sure some of the older people have seen a lot of these before...
Ratherbfishing reply :
Been thinkin' of putting aromatherapy candles on the deck of my boat.
Fishes in trees reply :
Ned rigging ain't new. If you believe Ned & his pals, finesse fishing was invented in Western Missouri & Eastern Kansas in the 60's & 70's. Don't tell the folks in Kentucky & Tennessee that, they'll tell you that Charlie Brewer transformed finesse fishing in the 60's & 70's. West coast guys have similar stories. These days, Ned has a forum on the In-Fisherman website and he writes alot about finesse fishing. Mid to late 70's - I was a meat fishing bush hippie in central Missouri and my go to rig was very similar to a Ned rig - and I'd never heard of Ned and his western Missouri & eastern Kansas buddies. I guess great minds think alike.
The Toko rig ain't new. I've been fishing a home made version of a jika rig 3 years prior to VMC coming out with the Tokyo rig AND I copied my idea from an article co-authored by Stacy King about a rig he was trying on Table Rock that he'd heard about from some pals who went to fish in Japan.
When I first saw the Biffle Bug, I thought,"Oh, a novel way to fish soft plastics on a football head." Then I read that Tommy Biffle fished them more like crank baits than jigs, and I thought that was kinda nuts, but OK. I don't get to fish rocky areas very often but last fall on Truman I did. Biffle Bugs are my current first choice for fishing rocky areas, and they do fish more like a crank bait than a jig.
When I first heard of tungsten worm weights and saw the price, I thought that was kind of nuts, I mean after all, weight is weight. Then a buddy of mine drank the Kool-ade and switched to tungsten. His catch rate went up - OK -- I bought some tungsten worm weights & tried them. These days I carry a small back up box of assorted lead worm weights and I would use them if I totally ran out of tungsten weights.
So there are four things off the top of my head - stuff that I have personal experience with. I'm sure there are more, but my IPA is empty and I got stuff I ought to be doing. . . later.
Bankbeater reply :
Newest bait I use is the chatterbait, and that has been out for quite a while.
TnRiver46 reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 6:10 AM, Bankbeater said:Newest bait I use is the chatterbait, and that has been out for quite a while.
Oh yeah I forgot about those. I like those
Primus reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 5:34 AM, Fishes in trees said:Ned rigging ain't new. If you believe Ned & his pals, finesse fishing was invented in Western Missouri & Eastern Kansas in the 60's & 70's. Don't tell the folks in Kentucky & Tennessee that, they'll tell you that Charlie Brewer transformed finesse fishing in the 60's & 70's. West coast guys have similar stories. These days, Ned has a forum on the In-Fisherman website and he writes alot about finesse fishing. Mid to late 70's - I was a meat fishing bush hippie in central Missouri and my go to rig was very similar to a Ned rig - and I'd never heard of Ned and his western Missouri & eastern Kansas buddies. I guess great minds think alike.
Regarding the Ned rig it's cool that throwing small soft plastics on light mushroom heads with small hooks have caught on and are catching people a lot of fish. That said I was throwing 3" Senkos & other small soft plastics on 1/16 oz Gopher Tackle mushroom heads with number 6 hooks on it at least 5 years before this became the Ned rig became a big deal and I'm sure there were others doing something similar. By no means am I taking credit for it as Ned and his gang have refined this where in my case it was something I would resort to when the fishing was tough and my usual methods were failing me. It definitely was a great way to get a lot of bites and I would on occasion be surprised with a bigger fish.
Mike L reply :
Nothing really new.
Been using the same baits and techniques for years.
I’ve tried a few things but always seem to go back to what I know works.
Mike
scaleface reply :
Not new but new to me . Stanley Ribbets . I should have been using these for the last several years after an angling buddy clued me in about them . I used the heck out of them past season .
Mike L reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 7:21 AM, scaleface said:Not new but new to me . Stanley Ribbets . I should have been using these for the last several years after an angling buddy clued me in about them . I used the heck out of them past season .
They don’t get a lot of play on here but they are an excellent top water plastic.
You’d be surprised what can happen if you swim them once in awhile just below the surface.
Mike
Michigander reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 5:07 AM, JediAmoeba said:I was using a whopper popper 20 some years ago too for musky in the form of a top raider(still works better than a whopper plopper IMO).
This is funny to me. When I first saw a Whopper Plopper, I thought it was a finesse musky bait because I too was a Top Raider fan.
Fishes in trees reply :
To resume. . .. full IPA (Firestone/Walker Luponic Distortion IPA). More observations on this subject. I can recall when A-Rigs weren't a thing, then they were, then the tournament organizations had their say .. .These days - in Missouri - certain times of the year, A-Rig is what you should be throwing. Spring & fall I've got an A-rig in my boat. Also a couple of times in the summer, just to practice.
I can recall when soft plastic frogs & hollow frogs weren't a thing - then they were. These days if there is matted vegetation on the water, I'm considering throwing a frog. I can remember a time when these baits weren't available, much less a good option in certain cirumstances.
BIG square bills - These haven't been on the market all that long, but a couple of years ago I got some and tried them out and I think that with assorted stick ups in 3 to 7 feet of water these baits are an excellent option - when the bass seem to be hanging out around shallow-ish wood. I've had situations where, throwing normal size square bills (Timber Tiger DC8 or any similar half ounce square bill), catch a few fish, bite would die down - move on. Come back 15 minutes later throwing the BIG squarebills and catch 17 - 20 inch fish in the same places. Did they just move in in the 15 minutes between presentations? Dunno - makes me think - anyway the big square bills are going to be in my on board boat inventory for the foreseeable future. (I haven't messed with the big deep divers ( like the Strike King 8 XD & 10 XD yet, but I probably will some this year)
A long time ago In-fisherman magazine wrote about throwing "jig worms". All you needed was a 1/4 oz powerhead jig and a 7" power worm. You threw them into sparse weeds and to the edges of deeper, thicker weeds. It is safe to say that shakey worm fishing has come a long ways in the past 30 years. How many styles of shakey head jigs are available these days? Safe to say - lots. Same thing with shakey worm styles.
That's all I got right now - might be more later - might not. As far as old baits that are no longer available, should someone decide to begin marketing pork frogs & associated pork baits (brown twin tails & split tail eels, flipping frog ) I'm good for a dozen or so jars a year .. ..put that in your marketing plan.
re- edit - back in the 70's, when the first buzz baits came out, most serious bass fisherman thought those were the stupidest lures they'd ever seen. My guess is these days every bass boat on the water has a few buzz baits, maybe not tied on but in the boat and ready to get tied on. ( I carry a dedicated buzz bait rig on my boat)
re- re-edit - I'll be darned. 7" of post and there is still slightly less than half of IPA in the can. . ..
galyonj reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 4:42 AM, Jermination said:i mean, you could check floating dock cables across various lakes throughout the state & find enough of my stuff to fill a box
Man, for me it's punky wood. If anybody ever needs to find underwater wood, all they gotta do is keep handing me lipless cranks.
Jermination reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 10:51 AM, galyonj said:Man, for me it's punky wood. If anybody ever needs to find underwater wood, all they gotta do is keep handing me lipless cranks.
We like to call the limb brim on my vessel, and the record is rather large!
galyonj reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 10:52 AM, Jermination said:limb brim
I just did a legit spit take.
GreenPig reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 5:10 AM, Ratherbfishing said:Been thinkin' of putting aromatherapy candles on the deck of my boat.
Don't waste your money. Find you a doc to prescribe 100% O2 you'll be amazed how much faster, harder, and longer you can fish. Talk about being alert & focused. If the doc fishes it's much easier getting the script.
Michigander reply :
On 2/28/2020 at 9:22 AM, Fishes in trees said:As far as old baits that are no longer available, should someone decide to begin marketing pork frogs & associated pork baits (brown twin tails & split tail eels, flipping frog ) I'm good for a dozen or so jars a year .. ..put that in your marketing plan.
I see you missed the "Pork is Back" thread. Good news!
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