I just don't have much faith in topwaters, I use em but I don't have as much confidence as cranks or other searchbaits, I know some people who never start the day with any other lure except top waters. The only top waters I like are hollow body and soft plastic frogs and using craws as buzzbaits. I'm gonna go out early tommorow and try a hula popper but Idk if it'll work.
I usually start the day with some kind of crank but back to the original question, do you guys prefer starting with a top water or something else? Or does it depend on weather for some of y'all.
I'll start with top water if the water is smooth, but if there's a little chop I go spinnerbait or lipless first.
I do and i can tell if im goin to keep using it all it takes is a differance between a gyser blow up or a pop,
I forgot about spooks, I like to throw them during the summer.
Idk it just seems like lures like the hula popper and jitterbug are just designed to be fool-proof lures... So anybody can grab a rod and reel and fish because they are so simple,I've never had a day where I can catch more on a hula popper than any other lure but some people swear by them.
I love topwater baits but I don't tend to start with them. I usually start with soft plastic (Senko or Zoom Lizard) to see if the fish are interested in biting. That big topwater strike is always the best though.
I have a buzz bait that I bought as a joke that is about 14 inches long. I have caught one fish on it and it is one I will never forget. That fish jumped out of the water and destroyed it. It was awesome fun.
On 7/6/2014 at 10:54 AM, TNBassin said:I'll start with top water if the water is smooth, but if there's a little chop I go spinnerbait or lipless first.
Same. Smooth or little ripples. I'd rather catch 1 topwater for 10 regular.
I usually start with a KVD Sexy Dawg or Ragetail Toad now.
On 7/6/2014 at 10:54 AM, TNBassin said:I'll start with top water if the water is smooth, but if there's a little chop I go spinnerbait or lipless first.
Same here
If I'm starting at daylight ill have a booyah buzzbait tied on no doubt about that. Nothing like buzz baits at daylight
On 7/6/2014 at 12:23 PM, missouribigbass said:If I'm starting at daylight ill have a booyah buzzbait tied on no doubt about that. Nothing like buzz baits at daylight
I like working soft plastics like rage craws and zoom speed craws like buzzbaita, its all the benefits of a buzz bait and you can fish it through the thickest stuff!
You guys have luck on topwater, can I have some of that? I've had ONE bass take a frog I threw back when the river was up. Haven't got so much as a bite on any of my poppers, my Yo Zuri Shashimi pencil or any of my frogs.
On 7/6/2014 at 1:02 PM, The All-Star said:You guys have luck on topwater, can I have some of that? I've had ONE bass take a frog I threw back when the river was up. Haven't got so much as a bite on any of my poppers, my Yo Zuri Shashimi pencil or any of my frogs.
I've had very little luck with hollow body frogs, as I recall I might have never caught anything one one except a Spro Popper caught one and my Scum Frog boot foot caught one.
I have has a ton of luck with Ragetail Toads topwater and recently KVD Sexy Dawgs also.
I throw topwater first thing in the morning, and once the water calms down in the evening. Usually it's a popper, but I also throw spooks and jitterbugs. The other day I had something crush (but miss) a crank bait that was wrapped in the line, as it just twirled on the surface.
Here's an idea - think of topwaters as having seperate categories - hollow body frogs, solid toads (this includes skinny dippers and buzz worms), poppers, walking sticks, prop baits, twitch baits (orig. rapala), hard buzz baits, dead stickers (swim baits). The more subtle ones use in calm conditions, the more breeze use the ones that disturb the surface more - In the early 60's an old angler handed me a big wounded spook (props on both ends) and told me to try it mid day - I did and caught the 2nd 7# bass of life - mid day in july, bright sun shining. I always give topwater a try if the water is near 60 or above - you never know unless you throw.
Try those Rage Tail shad. Those things are crazy good. I was amazed at all the commotion that little piece of plastic creates. Great top water bait.
I shore fish and i 1st look if there are shad along the shoreline...if there are i'll start with a topwater..if none i go with a plastic
Its not because I have more confidence in top water fishing, but I always start out topwater. If its a weeded area with a decent amount of open water I'll either throw a zoom horny toad or my arbogast buzz plug. If its more dense or theres a lot of lilys, ill throw my pad crasher. Theres nothing more fun than topwater.
Really depends on the lake for me
But i usually like to fan cast a hollow body into and area a few times before i start workin my way down depending on cover or lack thereof
The other day however i was all set to paralell steep bank with a frog then i saw a shad trying to escape something so i started with a 6xd...two casts later boom 4.5 pounder!...five mins later bang 4lber!
My newest thing had been throwing a frog parralel to riprap...been workin pretty thus far
I let the day's conditions dictate what I will be throwing.
On 7/6/2014 at 10:54 AM, TNBassin said:I'll start with top water if the water is smooth, but if there's a little chop I go spinnerbait or lipless first.
X2 I'll use a chatterbait first, before spinnerbaits.
Always, caught a nice one this morning at the break of dawn with a Tiny Torpedo. Old School basser...
I would throw top water all day if I could and I have with even the slightest overcast to encourage me.
Almost every time I'm on the water. For the most part I'm out at daybreak. Nothing makes me smile more than a top water strike right as the sun is coming up.
I always start with a topwater frog here where I live in socal. It especially works in the early summer mornings when the bass come up to the surface before the sun, to feed.
Man, you guys are lucky.
I'll say it again, I've never even had a fish show interest in a topwater.
Cavitron first two hours of the day
On 7/7/2014 at 10:34 AM, kudagra said:I would throw top water all day if I could and I have with even the slightest overcast to encourage me.
I've caught plenty of fish on topwater in bright sunny blue bird days. Especially with a Ragetail Toad.
Always keep a topwater bait tied on. A bangolure, buzzbait, and a popper.You have to be able to cast to the shade under the limbs. Caught a lot of fish on the bangolure with the single spinner.
On 7/8/2014 at 7:48 AM, tcbass said:I've caught plenty of fish on topwater in bright sunny blue bird days. Especially with a Ragetail Toad.
The only top water I' have cofidence in 100 degree bluebird skies is a buzzbait or soft plastic working as a buzz bait... Sometimes frogs work but I don't have confidence with em away from morning/evening
On 7/6/2014 at 10:54 AM, TNBassin said:I'll start with top water if the water is smooth, but if there's a little chop I go spinnerbait or lipless first.
x3 with one difference. I tend to use Spinnerbait our Chatterbait. Lipless is a 3rd option for me.
a Floating stickbait is a topwater bait and a subsurface/Jerkbait or crankbait all in one.....I will always start with a floating minnow style bait to see how aggressive the fish are and if they want it on the surface, a few feet or inches below, and if they want it erratic or just with a steady roll....
I then decide based on conditions, strikes, how fish have been caught (barely hooked on last treble or crushing the bait) what to throw as it heats up and how to fish it...
In Florida, eveyone throws frogs over grass, flips, or for topwater, it is a hollow belly all the time, but alot of guys do well with the Topwater bite and throw large floating jerkbaits...Rapala, bagley's, bomber, Red Fins, or Storm twitchin stick are all good options, and so is a Sebile flatt Shad for fishing surface with a lipless crank as it suspends on a dime and can be fished in areas you would never think of throwing a lipless crank with success....
rattling rogues get the call for dirty water, Bomber long A for windy days, and the Red fin for days when a steady retrieve is key, or waking...If not committing an just smacking the lure, then time for a wake bait like the Bandit footloose, Manns, or any lure that will float and stay steady and is small...
if fish are active, go Subsurface, and swim or work the jerkbait erractic, and some lures do it all......sebile stick Shad sinks, Rapala Xrap Subwalk, but my new favorite topwater hands down, and I thought my box of spooks, and Sammy walking baits was complete.....IMA Skimmer, and of course the Gun Fish.....Topwater is great all day if you match the presantation to what the fish are feeding on and what they want....easier said than done, but for covering water, take out a Bomber Long A or rapala F-9 if you like smaller baits and figure out what is best, you may end up swimming it all day with a stop and go retrieve 2-3' down, or letting it drift and barley moving it...Sometimes the bite never stops, or starts, but worms will never let you down.....
On 7/8/2014 at 8:54 AM, Catch and Grease said:The only top water I' have cofidence in 100 degree bluebird skies is a buzzbait or soft plastic working as a buzz bait... Sometimes frogs work but I don't have confidence with em away from morning/evening
I've never had real success with hollow body frogs. However, I've caught fish on all types of days with my Ragetsil Toad. It's perhaps my favorite lure and catches fish almost all the time. Try letting one sink to the bottom sometime and soak for a few seconds. Sometimes fish love them that way.
I almost always start with a topwater when the water is over 60 degrees because I often start fishing before sunrise. If it doesn't get hits quickly I switch to a spinnerbait and burn it shallow within 1 - 2 feet of the surface. That gets hit when the topwater doesn't, which isn't common.
In the morning if the water is calm I will always use top water. I will stop if they just aren't hitting it, or until they stop hitting it
I usually start at the top of the water column and work my way down. I also start out fast in each area of the water column and then slow down as needed.
Top
Poppers, Buzzbaits, Hollow frogs, walking baits
Medium depth:
Swim Jigs, Spinners, Cranks, Swim baits
Deep:
Drop shot, cranks, Spinners, plastics, jigs