What is your favorite way to fish a Ned Rig ? ... Do you fish it on the bottom like a shakey head by dragging or hopping it ? ... Or do you swim it ? ... Another method ? ... Thanks in advance !
Jig, jig, stop.... repeat..
There are several ways to fish it.I personally like to swim it with occasional stops to sit on the bottom and hop it a little.google Ned kedhe Midwest finesse and he will describe the most effective retrieves.
^^^^^ What he said. It is a good bait when the bite is tough, but it can also be retrieved aggressively when the bite is hot. There is no wrong way to retrieve the bait. Let the fish tell you what they want.
If I could only use one bait the Ned Rig would be it.
I fish mostly ponds, so shallow vegetation is an issue. Solution? Ned rig under the (gasp) bobber????. Slow retrieve, with some hopping/twitching. Works like a charm!
When I first started using the Ned, I just let it soak. When I couldn't stand it any longer, I would hop it a few times & let it soak some more. Then I noticed when that wasn't working, they would bite when I was retrieving it to make another cast. So let them tell you. It really is a phenomenal bait.
Yes , I vow to learn this technique over winter when the bite can be a little tough after fronts , etc. so a few different retrieves to learn are in order ... On deck are a new 7' ML fast action rod , 2000 series spinning reel with #10 lb. braid + #6 lb. FC leader . Today while visiting my favorite local tackle shop to wish them a Merry Christmas - they just got in the new Roboworm 3" Ned Worm so I picked up a pack of a green pumpkin variant to have along with some 3" TRD's I recently bought .
I hop it along the bottom very slowly. I even dead stick it at times. I get a lot of fish that way.
I mainly use the swim, shake, glide Midwest Finesse retrieve.
I must be doing something wrong. I occasionally get a dink, but no real action on a Ned Rig. Maybe my water is too dirty. Maybe I fish it wrong. I so better with a finess texas rigged worm.
On 12/24/2017 at 8:03 PM, thinkingredneck said:I must be doing something wrong. I occasionally get a dink, but no real action on a Ned Rig. Maybe my water is too dirty. Maybe I fish it wrong. I so better with a finess texas rigged worm.
I catch a lot of Ned rig fish in water with less than 2' of visibility, including some really nice ones.
Can the Ned be used in stained or dirty water? If so do you use rattles or smelly attractant?
On 12/24/2017 at 9:25 PM, 68camaro said:Can the Ned be used in stained or dirty water? If so do you use rattles or smelly attractant?
Yes it can, I don't. A crawdad or minnow doesn't suddenly become louder or smellier because the water is dirty, and bass still have no problems finding them.
On 12/24/2017 at 8:03 PM, thinkingredneck said:I must be doing something wrong. I occasionally get a dink, but no real action on a Ned Rig. Maybe my water is too dirty. Maybe I fish it wrong. I so better with a finess texas rigged worm.
Neds come in a lot of colors, so try at least a few different ones. Makes a difference. Around here for LM the PB&J is very good, the Junebug is very good, especially in stained water. For clear water SM the greens are very good. For rock pile SM late in the season, snapping a white one off the bottom works well at times. Remember, as others have written, there are a lot of ways to fish it, and fish sometimes want one over the others. Experiment. When you get it right, it is a really good lure. Some times it has been the ONLY thing we could catch SM on. My son says it catches only small fish; he is wrong, it catches all fish. There are just more small ones than large. It has been a tournament winner for big SM in this area (MI, Lake St Clair, Sag Bay).
On 12/24/2017 at 8:03 PM, thinkingredneck said:I must be doing something wrong. I occasionally get a dink, but no real action on a Ned Rig. Maybe my water is too dirty. Maybe I fish it wrong. I so better with a finess texas rigged worm.
Ive given the ned a fair shake and have not gotten great results either. Used a number of colors and weights retrieves lines and water is pretty clear 10+ visibility. The only thing I havent done is try it on other waters. I pretty much have used it on my "home" lake but that is where it should produce the best. I havent been skunked there in a good 11 years.
When River fishing, I like to swim it and polish the rocks. Hanging up once in a while is ok too, because there are times a Smallie will absolutely kill a bait after it pops off a snag, not sure why.
On lakes I fish a lot of vertical cover, docks and reeds, so I initially let it drop to the bottom then swim it back. I don't deadstick it anymore, because it is too easy to deep hook a bass with this bait.
Scent, always use a dab of a gel scent. I have seen too many days where the scent is the difference between getting bit or not, so I just always play it safe and use it.
On 12/25/2017 at 12:12 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Ive given the ned a fair shake and have not gotten great results either. Used a number of colors and weights retrieves lines and water is pretty clear 10+ visibility. The only thing I havent done is try it on other waters. I pretty much have used it on my "home" lake but that is where it should produce the best. I havent been skunked there in a good 11 years.
I catch a lot of fish with it, but for some reason on lakes I have found baits like a tube, Gambler Ugly Otter, 5" Kalins etc. will out fish the Ned. It could be the types of cover I fish, as I don't fish a lot flats with weeds on top.
I also do "swim, shake, glide" most of the time when fishing still water, on a faster river or stream I either do a slow retrieve straight downstream if I am wading or cast it up and let it drift down when standing on the bank.
If I want to drag it, I switch to the little zman mico jigs;
They stay down better in current and get a good number of hits. I like them as they still use a very light hooks, so I can use my nedrig rod for them.
Is the Ned primarily a SMB bait? I have seen some LMB on Ned Kehde's writings.
Works well on both SM and LM.
Here are my tips:
I catch so many bass on a drop shot and a Ned rig. My last day fishing this past season I caught 3 SM over 5 pounds and 23 pounds total all on a Ned. Most of the time I just cast it out and let it sit. Keep in mind what makes it unique with a TRD worm is that the worm floats up and looks like a defenseless minnow feeding on the bottom. Hope these tips help.
On 12/25/2017 at 6:29 PM, thinkingredneck said:Is the Ned primarily a SMB bait? I have seen some LMB on Ned Kehde's writings.
I catch a lot of LM on a Ned. Stick with it you'll catch them too.
On 12/24/2017 at 4:04 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I mainly use the swim, shake, glide Midwest Finesse retrieve.
Same here. Although I've tried a lot of different retrieves
and had a lot of success on just about everything tried.
My favorite method is to crawl it on the bottom with my reel like a Charlie brewer slider.
On 12/25/2017 at 6:29 PM, thinkingredneck said:Is the Ned primarily a SMB bait? I have seen some LMB on Ned Kehde's writings.
It catches literally everything. Most of the lakes that Ned fishes here don't have smallmouth, just largemouth. I've caught bluegill, several kinds of sunfish, crappie, yellow perch, walleye, white bass, wipers, channel cats, blues, flathead to 21 pounds, drum, gar, even carp.
I use the swim glide and shake retrieve (slowly swimming and subtlety shaking it within a foot or so of the bottom, occasionally letting it glide back down to reestablish bottom contact) 95% of the time.
And yes, it works for largemouth, and every other species of fish that exists. There aren't squat for smallies around here, and it is still one of my top 2 producers every year. The smallmouth do seem to like it especially well when I get the rare opportunity to fish for them though.
My favorite is to cast it out and let it set for about 15-20 seconds then shake it and try not to move it as much as possible. I then take a complete turn of the reel (gliding) shake it let, repeat until I think I am out of the strike zone. I guess you could call it like the others said, glide and shake.
On 12/25/2017 at 12:47 AM, fishwizzard said:If I want to drag it, I switch to the little zman mico jigs;
That Micro jig with the ZMan Batwingz is an awesome combination. When dragged, it scoots over the cover just like a small mudbug and then as soon as you stop it, the buoyancy of the elasticel lifts the back end up exactly like crayfish do when a predator approaches. Watch it in shallow water & it is amazing how well it replicates a crawdad.
On 12/26/2017 at 4:21 AM, Bluebasser86 said:It catches literally everything. Most of the lakes that Ned fishes here don't have smallmouth, just largemouth. I've caught bluegill, several kinds of sunfish, crappie, yellow perch, walleye, white bass, wipers, channel cats, blues, flathead to 21 pounds, drum, gar, even carp.
I'll confirm that as well. My home lake has only LMB, bluegill, catfish & carp and not only has TRD's caught all four species, it has caught large ones of each (8lb LMB, 2lb bluegill, 15lb catfish and 12lb carp are tops for all four).
I have also caught a freshwater clam and a lawnchair with it, but I don't think those are typically sought after species...
On 12/26/2017 at 6:03 AM, tander said:My favorite is to cast it out and let it set for about 15-20 seconds then shake it and try not to move it as much as possible. I then take a complete turn of the reel (gliding) shake it let, repeat until I think I am out of the strike zone. I guess you could call it like the others said, glide and shake.
*Glenn mentions a straight #6lb. co-poly line for the Ned Rig - for those that have replied , what is your choice of line ?
On 12/27/2017 at 5:01 PM, ChrisD46 said:*Glenn mentions a straight #6lb. co-poly line for the Ned Rig - for those that have replied , what is your choice of line ?
10lb KastKing Super Power pink braid to 8lb mono or fluoro leader, if I'm using a leader at all.
On 12/27/2017 at 5:01 PM, ChrisD46 said:*Glenn mentions a straight #6lb. co-poly line for the Ned Rig - for those that have replied , what is your choice of line ?
I use 10# Power Pro in yellow with 7# Sunline Sniper FC leader using an Alberto knot. I would love to use straight FC but I can't deal with the twist and braid cast so much better.
I really like 10# nanofil with a 6# fluoro leader - that said we fished the beetle on straight mono for years and caught lots of fish. The main thing for me is a soft action rod and sharp hooks.
On 12/27/2017 at 5:01 PM, ChrisD46 said:*Glenn mentions a straight #6lb. co-poly line for the Ned Rig - for those that have replied , what is your choice of line ?
Right now it's 8lb neon Suffix to 12lb Invisix. I like a thick leader to keep the lure down a little more and for pickerel protection. I have tried various 6-8lb floros and was not super pleased with any of them, but I do use a 1000 sized reel on my ned combo. I am going to give some 6lb monos a go over the summer as I dislike the sound of a leader knot hitting the guides.
On 12/27/2017 at 5:01 PM, ChrisD46 said:*Glenn mentions a straight #6lb. co-poly line for the Ned Rig - for those that have replied , what is your choice of line ?
6-8 pound high-vis braid with an 8 pound mono or flouro leader for me.
10lb Nanofil with 8-10lb P-Line Flurocarbon leader.
I have dropped to 4lb leaders in the past, but on my lake, I have yet to notice a difference with the lighter ones.
Make sure you loosen up those drags, fellas. The hooks are light wire and will bend. I lost a couple big fish that way last spring.
I bought some of those nedlokz jigheads and they are much beefier hooks and they hold the plastic better than the traditional ones.
I have never caught anything real big on the ned but I will admit that it often catches fish when almost nothing else will. And even catching dinks is better than catching nothing sometimes.
5lb fins 40g (brakes at 20lb) with a sunline sniper invisible 6lb fluorocarbon.
I cast as long as possible and let it sink to the bottom, or let it sink to where I think they are suspended then reel
super slow back to the boat...boring but it works
Thanks for the replies - I would like to think that the thin braid + FC leader would be a good line option in winter as well as not impede any action to the Ned bait combo ?
On 12/28/2017 at 6:31 PM, ChrisD46 said:Thanks for the replies - I would like to think that the thin braid + FC leader would be a good line option in winter as well as not impede any action to the Ned bait combo ?
The only issue that arises when it gets really cold is the tiny amount of water that braid holds, freezes really fast and makes it stiff when it really cold. It also carries more water back through the guides and to the reel, so it ices up guides (and levelwinds with baitcasters), faster than mono seems to. I still use it all winter long even in extreme cold.
On 12/28/2017 at 7:38 PM, Bluebasser86 said:The only issue that arises when it gets really cold is the tiny amount of water that braid holds, freezes really fast and makes it stiff when it really cold. It also carries more water back through the guides and to the reel, so it ices up guides (and levelwinds with baitcasters), faster than mono seems to. I still use it all winter long even in extreme cold.
If the braid ever gets too much for you to deal with in the winter, try some encapsulated Spectra. Several different ones out there. Same sensitivity, stretch, and its usually a little cheaper than braided Spectra. I've been using one for about a month that I like. That covering should keep ice off the guides, although since it's dropped to single digits here I've opted to sit by the fireplace more than fish....lol
On 12/26/2017 at 3:45 AM, aceman387 said:My favorite method is to crawl it on the bottom with my reel like a Charlie brewer slider.
My favorite method is to crawl a Charlie Brewer Slider like a Charlie Brewer Slider...lol
I wish the Ned worked for me like others but I fish too much brush and get hung when I try.