Listening to Kevin Van D the other day, he was saying that many times Craw fish will tend to be the same or close to the same color as the area they live in, to better disguise themselves from preditors.
When picking a fat ika to purchase, should I be looking at colors that match the bottom of the ponds I fish, or does the water color/clarity have more to do with my color choice?
I fish mostly clear to slightly stained water.
Secondly, I remember RW saying he fishes the Ika like a Senko. With 6'' - 12'' horizontal sweeps, letting it pause for 10-20 seconds. RW,(and others) do you mix it up as well? Do you ever hop it or use up and down sweeps as opposed to sideways? Do you ever pop it like a jerk bait? Swim it? If so, how are the results?
I'm about to order some Ika's.
Some color choices I was considering are...
Chartreuse GN w/ ch flk
Black
Fading watermelon w/ bl flk
June Bug
Which two should I get for now?
Thanks!
rig it straight on a football head jig head and cast to under cut rocks or ledges and just let it sink and the smallies cant stand it
in green pumblkin or watermelon/redflake
I rig it with a 4/0 skirt up. Colors I like are black/blue and greenpumpkin. (watermelon, watermelon blk fleck, and greenpumpkin all pretty much work the same imo..)
I'm not convinced color is important, I fish "dark" ( watermelon with black flakes, green pumpkin with black flakes and watermelon with black & red flakes).
I never use a weight.
I always fish them slow, on the bottom with short sweeps and long pauses.
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If you fishing ponds than know this....I have had AWESOME sucess on the Green Pumpkin Black Flake color. Rigged backwards on a 4/0 hook jigging it off the bottom and letting it fall on slack line.
QuoteListening to Kevin Van D the other day, he was saying that many times Craw fish will tend to be the same or close to the same color as the area they live in, to better disguise themselves from preditors.When picking a fat ika to purchase, should I be looking at colors that match the bottom of the ponds I fish, or does the water color/clarity have more to do with my color choice?
I fish mostly clear to slightly stained water.
Secondly, I remember RW saying he fishes the Ika like a Senko. With 6'' - 12'' horizontal sweeps, letting it pause for 10-20 seconds. RW,(and others) do you mix it up as well? Do you ever hop it or use up and down sweeps as opposed to sideways? Do you ever pop it like a jerk bait? Swim it? If so, how are the results?
I'm about to order some Ika's.
Some color choices I was considering are...
Chartreuse GN w/ ch flk
Black
Fading watermelon w/ bl flk
June Bug
Which two should I get for now?
Thanks!
Well I ain 't KVD but I 've never been an advocate of the "match the hatch" school of thought, to me color is one of the ways of telling the fish " LOOK AT IT ! " reason why I prefer hot colors or colors that contain a lots of flash ( lotz of metalflake )
In other words, choose the color you think will work best, presentation and location are more important.
I think if you stick with what rw is saying, you'll be golden. I have found, however, that when I'm smallmouth fishing (clear water), the greens and watermelon shades get me the best results. When I go after largemouth - usually in a bit more stained water - the pumpkin and real dark june bug colors "seem" to produce better for me. And by all means, fish it on the bottom, similar to a pitching jig.
QuoteQuoteListening to Kevin Van D the other day, he was saying that many times Craw fish will tend to be the same or close to the same color as the area they live in, to better disguise themselves from preditors.When picking a fat ika to purchase, should I be looking at colors that match the bottom of the ponds I fish, or does the water color/clarity have more to do with my color choice?
I fish mostly clear to slightly stained water.
Secondly, I remember RW saying he fishes the Ika like a Senko. With 6'' - 12'' horizontal sweeps, letting it pause for 10-20 seconds. RW,(and others) do you mix it up as well? Do you ever hop it or use up and down sweeps as opposed to sideways? Do you ever pop it like a jerk bait? Swim it? If so, how are the results?
I'm about to order some Ika's.
Some color choices I was considering are...
Chartreuse GN w/ ch flk
Black
Fading watermelon w/ bl flk
June Bug
Which two should I get for now?
Thanks!
Well I ain 't KVD but I 've never been an advocate of the "match the hatch" school of thought, to me color is one of the ways of telling the fish " LOOK AT IT ! " reason why I prefer hot colors or colors that contain a lots of flash ( lotz of metalflake )
In other words, choose the color you think will work best, presentation and location are more important.
I saw that episode as well, and my interpretation of what kvd was saying, is that, match the hatch or the bottom color of the lake in clearer water situations, and in muddy or stained water, he tries to go with a good silouhetted color (dark) that may have some chartruese or other bright accents.
im with RW on this one...
my opinion....i just dont think color is as important as people make it....
and if it is, i still think there are color combos that will work 95% of the time
they are:
Black-solid
Black-with blue flake
Black-with red flake
Watermelon-with red/green flake
watermelon- "faded" or solid
pumkinseed-with black flake
Pumkinseed-with red flake
the 2 GY colors i throw 99% of the time are Black with blue flake, and watermelon with red/green flake
those are my go to colors almost all the time!
Is the Fat Ika as successful at catching largemouth bass, as it is smallmouth?
It looks like trout bait to me.
Funny, I came here to make the same post. Is it as good for LMB as it is SMB?
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QuoteIs the Fat Ika as successful at catching largemouth bass, as it is smallmouth?It looks like trout bait to me.
For the past three years, the Fat Ika has been my #1 producer for largemouth bass. I rarely use the lure for smallmouth because I generally fish the Tennessee River. This bait works much better fished slowly on the bottom, in water that is not moving.
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You fish 'em weightless and texas-rigged BACKWARDS, correct? Have you ever added weight (c-rigged or sliding bullet weight) and fished off-shore grass (12' or so)?
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QuoteI'm not convinced color is important, I fish "dark" ( watermelon with black flakes, green pumpkin with black flakes and watermelom with black & red flakes).I never use a weight.
I always fish them slow, on the bottom with short sweeps and long pauses.
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Does that mean you never fish 'em deep or you're a very patient person? 12' is kinda deep for weightless.
Regardless, I'm convinced that anything that can be fished weightless will also work behind a c-rig. I'm gonna put your Ika to the test.
Patient.
I cast and light a cigarette. After the Fat Ika reaches the bottom, I usually let it sit at least 15-30 seconds, sometimes longer. The pause between movements can be short (10-15 seconds) or long. One cast and retrieve takes awhile if I'm fishing good structure or cover.
I will be interested to hear how you do with a C-rig. Please post results, good or not. I think the weight will negate the inherent action of the bait, but we'll see.
Good luck!
8-)
Apparently, there's more than one Ika. Any luck with the smaller sizes?
But there is only one Fat (Boy) Ika:
http://***/cgi-bin/order/92F-10
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Alright Road Warrior. I gots my Fat Ikas. Sunday on West Lake Toho we'll find out if they really catch largemouth bass or if you're on Garry Yamamato's payroll.
Its an excellent largemouth catcher. Rig it as RW suggests, weightless and rigged backwards.
I tried them out because of RW's posts, and I was impressed. On my very first cast with the lure I caught a nice fish, with many more to follow.
It doesn't take long at all for it to reach the bottom in 12' of water. It wobbles side to side as it falls but its not a slow fall. It casts like a bullet, no weight necessary.
I'm a weighless senko/fluke/trick worm kind of fisherman, so this seems to be right up my alley.
I still say the Ika looks like trout bait.
QuoteIs the Fat Ika as successful at catching largemouth bass, as it is smallmouth?It looks like trout bait to me.
Here's RW with a Fat Ika fish on Fork.
Love the Fat Ika. Oddly nobody I know fishes it, except for those on this forum. It has become a great go to bait for me.
As far as color goes, I like black with blue flake. It seems to land more fish than anything else.
QuoteLove the Fat Ika. Oddly nobody I know fishes it, except for those on this forum.
That's a "good thing!"
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There may be some Fat IKA sightings around Concord, NC. Gonna give em a try. I've caught fish on every other GY bait so might as well add this one to the list.
QuoteLove the Fat Ika. Oddly nobody I know fishes it, except for those on this forum. It has become a great go to bait for me.As far as color goes, I like black with blue flake. It seems to land more fish than anything else.
Ditto! It's like my own little secret here in N.E. Ohio. I catch more bass on the Ika than any other soft plastic I use, an that includes the Senko.
Fat Ika is awesome not only does it catch the bass but not one person around here uses it... I know all the "regulars" down at the pond I fish and never seen any of them use it ;D its my little secret down here. On days when nothing seems to produce i can pick these up and start slamming them almost any time. These things have always caught me at least 5 fish
every time I throw them.
Captain - There already have been some Fat Ika sightings around the Charlotte/ Concord area ;D
QuoteCaptain - There already have been some Fat Ika sightings around the Charlotte/ Concord area ;D
DOH!! Let's keep this between you and me. I'm hunting wasskwey bass this fwiday.....hahahahha(elmer voice). Got me a 10 pack last night.
You guys notice Kinami sells 5 "palm trees"at about the same price as GY sells 10 fat ikas. Bad marketing in my book as I realize what is going on.
QuoteAlright Road Warrior. I gots my Fat Ikas. Sunday on West Lake Toho we'll find out if they really catch largemouth bass or if you're on Garry Yamamato's payroll.
Dang, I was looking forward to throwing my Fat Ika's all week. Then I pulled up to the boat ramp Sunday morning and I realized I forgot to pack em when I geared up. The christening of the almighty Ika will have to wait. :-/
err trout bait
Well, I went fishing last night and this time I remembered to bring my new bag of Fat Ika's. Unfortunatley, I quickly realized a problem... 2/0 worm hooks work great with Trick Worms and Senkos, but they're entirely too small for Ika's. The hook barely penetrated the other side of the worm and it was pointless even trying to fish them. If I bothered to take one out of the bag when I first got em I would have realized it earlier.
In any case, now I'm reading back through this thread and seeing most of yall use 4/0 hooks. Heck, as thick as those things are I'd assume wide gap hooks would help too.
So.... the Ika christening will have to wait another week. Which stinks because last night we caught a boat load of bass and I'm sure the Ika would have brought in a few if I'd had the right hook. Despite that, I still gave it a couple casts just to see how it moves in the water and I was impressed with it's slow fall the way those tentacles wiggle.
QuotePatient.I will be interested to hear how you do with a C-rig. Please post results, good or not. I think the weight will negate the inherent action of the bait, but we'll see.
Well, I finally christened the Fat Ika yesterday.
Lake Caloosa in Central Florida - Early in the morning with calm wind, I was throwing it weightless against exposed kissimmee grass. It almost immediately started getting bites and after some misses I finally brought in a couple of decent bass. I still think all that plastic makes hooksets more difficult - even with a 4/0 widegap hook and after making sure the hook was fully penetrated (even somewhat exposed). In any case, it worked.
Later in the day the wind picked up to 15 mph and made weightless fishing nearly impossible (especially in 7 to 8 feet of water), so I put the Ika on the end of a c-rig (1/8 oz weight) and sure enough, the fish kept biting. The Fat Ika rigged backwards (both weightless and c-rig) was getting it done.
My fishing partner took notice to my success with this weird new bait. So he reached into his bag and pulled out something similar... I believe it was a Yamamoto Double Tail Hula Grub pictured below. He rigged it backwards, just like I was doing with the Ika, tied to the end of his c-rig (1/16 oz weight) and started catching fish as well. He commented that those Hula Grubs had been sitting in his tacklebox unused for about 2 years. He's now a believer in them rigged backwards.
Each bait seemed to have its own benefits - The Ika made MUCH longer casts, but the Hula Grub could be fished with smaller hooks because it's nearly as thick. I also think the Ika's bigger overall size helps attract bigger fish than the Hula Grub would.
In any case, thanks to everyone's input on the Ika. A creature bait rigged backwards. whodda thunk?
QuotePatient.I cast and light a cigarette. After the Fat Ika reaches the bottom, I usually let it sit at least 15-30 seconds, sometimes longer. The pause between movements can be short (10-15 seconds) or long. One cast and retrieve takes awhile if I'm fishing good structure or cover.
I will be interested to hear how you do with a C-rig. Please post results, good or not. I think the weight will negate the inherent action of the bait, but we'll see.
Good luck!
8-)
Maybe that is my problem, I am fishing them to fast. Still have not caught any using the IKA.