Big lizards=Big Fish??? 2024
TheMississippiOutdoorsman reply :
Do big lizards(8+ inches) catch big bass, I've watched a few BAMABASS vids and wondering if anyone else has luck on then or it's just his magical touch that he has... I bought 4 packs of 8" ZOOM lizards in pumpkin chartreuse and also grabbed some spike it chartreuse dye for the tails. Also weighted or unweighted? (He used unweighted)
jakebrake reply :
using the rubber worm logic, "if you want a hog, send down a snake". having used 10 inch worms once or twice, the logic does work....however....
your hookset will be much different. you pretty much had to waita couple of seconds before you set the hook. (much easier said than done)
as far as weight....depends...on the rod, the vegetation in the water....
I went weightless. the weight of it's own mass dropped it rather well.
contium reply :
I've done pretty good pitching the El Grande Lures Gila Monster. Nothing like Bamabass but it looks like he fishes a lot of private lakes.
lo n slo reply :
imo yes. you may have to wade thru some tail biters enroute to those big 'uns though, all depending on where you fish. i like the green pumpkin and chartreuse deal.
RoLo reply :
I definitely agree with 'BIG', but never found anything special about 'lizards'.
Roger
scaleface reply :
When I was fishing local tournaments the 6 inch Lizard was my number 1 bait . They caught a lot of those so valuable three lb fish .
BassB8Caster reply :
I love fishing lizards. So far have o it fished the 6". I purchased some 8" zooms and can't wait to try them out. Last year I also bought some 10" gene larew worms (after watching a few of those bama bass vids). Have tried them a few times with no luck. Def plan to throw them more this summer.
frosty reply :
On 6/6/2017 at 7:35 AM, contium said:Nothing like Bamabass
Bamabass says he catches a small one and pulls a 5 pound bass out of the water...
tander reply :
A 8" Junebug lizard is a hot bait at Ross Barnett in the springtime but I seem to catch the numbers on the 6"
2tall79 reply :
In my experience, I've found I catch just as many large bass on 4" lizards as I do 6" and 8". Whatever the size...they just hate 'em.
WRB reply :
I have fished 8" lizards for decades and haven't caught a single DD bass on them. Big worms 9" to 13" have been productive for me.
Big live Tiger salamanders (water dogs) back when in 70's were phenomenal big bass baits.
Tom
adbassfishing reply :
I fished a tournament earlier this year and used Zoom Magnum lizards. There 8". Didn't catch any big ones, but it was the only thing they would bite. I tried throwing the 6" version as well and didn't get a bite.
Bluebasser86 reply :
My PB was on an 8" Zoom lizard.
An 8" lizard really isn't that big. No need to wait to set the hook as a 2 pound fish will inhale one with ease. Waiting can backfire a few different ways; allow the fish to spit the bait, let it swallow the hook, or get the bait balled up in it's mouth so you set the hook back into the plastic. I generally like a lighter weight with lizards, something like 1/8-1/4 ounce and I just drag them slowly along the bottom. They work well on a Carolina rig or a swinging football head also.
Catt reply :
Outside of the spawn I seldom throw em 
Outdoor Zack reply :
The bug bite baits magnum lizard is BIG. Never did any good with it, but the 6" zoom lizards are a whole different story.
Fishes in trees reply :
I occasionally throw lizards on my home made jika rigs. Some days fish want the slightly skinnier profile of a lizard - compared to a brush hog. I like the YUM Zellemanders also. I wish they would have made 8" ones. Zellemanders are discontinued now (I think).
NHBull reply :
Given a 5 lb'er on my lake is big, I play the law of number and don't go bigger that 6 inches, unless it is a surface or shallow swimmer
TheMississippiOutdoorsman reply :
On 6/6/2017 at 9:25 AM, tander said:A 8" Junebug lizard is a hot bait at Ross Barnett in the springtime but I seem to catch the numbers on the 6"
Do you ever catch any size there, went there a few weeks ago and caught a few 2's and 3's but nothing big
tander reply :
There are bigger fish but I wouldn't complain with 2 and 3 pounders. 
clh121787 reply :
Yes? I'm pretty sure every bass I've ever caught on a 6 inch lizard would have eaten an 8 inch just the same. Most of the time I'd rather throw the bigger one
lo n slo reply :
On 6/6/2017 at 6:22 PM, Catt said:Outside of the spawn I seldom throw em
same here, i'm fishing deeper stuff and stroking a regular old worm works just fine for me.
fishwizzard reply :
I have only been fishing a lizard (6" Zoom in Black/Red Flake) for like a month now and it is already rocketing to the top of my confidance list. I literally found a bag of them with three of them left in a pile of trash on the bank. I caught like 3-5 bass on each one of those lizards, it was crazy. I bought a few packs and am going to fish them hard for the next few months.
Scarborough817 reply :
short answer - yes
long answer - if you throw them in the right place at the right time and the fish is there and in the mood to eat a lizard then yes
d-camarena reply :
Zoom lizards and yum crawbugs on the owner jika rig hooks have been my fish baits this year. Most people here are struggling qt the local lake but its been one of my best years. I think the jika hooks prevent the bait from being lost on the weeds or grass and makes the differnce. Ive been keeping on the low but others are bound to figure the bite out soon
the reel ess reply :
The thing about BamaBass is he's fishing managed bodies of water with lots of trophies. If the average fish is approaching 5 pounds, you'll catch them on big baits, especially if the natural forage is big. ie: golden shiners. When I use mega sized baits, I catch nothing. I do fish one place with some big bass, but spinnerbaits and lipless cranks seem to be the ticket there. I know, I know, you have to dedicate yourself to fishing for big bass and eventually the huge baits should pay off with fish. But that could mean three or four trips with no bites. I haven't tried it yet, but I have the feeling live shiners would do the job nicely. We tend to fish however we like to and take whatever fish will bite. I have the habit of fishing the shallows with topwaters in the middle of summer in the evening. I'll take one topwater bite for every 2 my buddy gets.
And here's another thing. There are some baits I use that just seem to fill a "slot" of big bass. Meaning they catch 3-5 lb. bass, but not 6 and better. Though I know there are bigger bass, I'm just not getting them to bite. The frog and the spook are two such baits. The average size is good, but never a trophy. Don't get me wrong, I'll never scoff at a 3 pounder, but I do want a monster bass.
I guess I'd better rededicate myself to a trophy with fewer bites.
shimmy reply :
Bamabass pays a yearly fee to fish the private lakes he has access to. Learning about lures from him is as useless as learning about lures from Bill Dance on his stocked ponds. Why people follow him for advice blows my mind.
CroakHunter reply :
On 6/8/2017 at 11:02 AM, shimmy said:Bamabass pays a yearly fee to fish the private lakes he has access to. Learning about lures from him is as useless as learning about lures from Bill Dance on his stocked ponds. Why people follow him for advice blows my mind.
He doesn't give bad advice. He's not out there drop shotting a hollow body frog catching 30lbs on 5 fish. Basing your success off of his success is where people need to stop and realize he does fish private water that holds giants and he does fish in Alabama where the fish grow larger than say indiana.
RoLo reply :
I realize this thread is about "lizards", but it seems more centered on the length of soft-plastic baits.
The lengths specified in this thread could also be applied to plastic snakes, grubs, creatures or leeches.
Actually, "lizards" are land animals that quickly drown in water. In fact, all species of American lizards
live on land or in trees. Salamanders are aquatic creatures, but they're built noticeably different than lizards.
Roger
BassB8Caster reply :
On 6/8/2017 at 11:02 AM, shimmy said:Bamabass pays a yearly fee to fish the private lakes he has access to. Learning about lures from him is as useless as learning about lures from Bill Dance on his stocked ponds. Why people follow him for advice blows my mind.
Is it possible that a good number of people don't know he dishes private lakes? I had no idea. I don't do research on everyone who hosts YouTube videos. I take them at face value. If I see a technique that could work where I fish, I give it a try. One still has to execute, even on private waters. To me, this is still better than fake catches on fishing shows. That is a disgrace and an insult to the sport. Yet we call them pros. Anyway, that's another topic and thread all together.
shimmy reply :
On 6/9/2017 at 8:52 AM, BassB8Caster said:Is it possible that a good number of people don't know he dishes private lakes? I had no idea. I don't do research on everyone who hosts YouTube videos. I take them at face value. If I see a technique that could work where I fish, I give it a try. One still has to execute, even on private waters. To me, this is still better than fake catches on fishing shows. That is a disgrace and an insult to the sport. Yet we call them pros. Anyway, that's another topic and thread all together.
No doubt people still have to catch fish on private lakes, but it is extremely discouraging for beginning to moderate anglers fishing their heavily pressured or unproductive public waters and watch videos from guys that fish private reservoirs and then expect to get some kind of similar results. Bamabass has every right to do what he does and i wish him luck. He is doing great with his business approach with it and there is nothing negative to say towards that aspect. Furthermore, I don't think he ever says that only this ONE lure will work and that is why i have respect for him. I just think that the people who watch the videos should be aware that he is fishing private and paid for waters for a reason...I take a lot more stock from people who fish public waters and catch big bass than those who do not. I have a youtube video of catching big bass on Lake Baccarac and i would never consider it a go-to video for how to fish a reservoir. I am fishing a lake that is world class and requires a plane ticket and a guide. Sure i had to work to catch the bigger fish and understand how to fish structure, but the big fish being caught are not indicative that I am teaching the most important techniques and fishing the best baits for big bass.
craww reply :
On 6/8/2017 at 12:30 PM, CroakHunter said:He doesn't give bad advice. He's not out there drop shotting a hollow body frog catching 30lbs on 5 fish. Basing your success off of his success is where people need to stop and realize he does fish private water that holds giants and he does fish in Alabama where the fish grow larger than say indiana.
Good points...I used to fish a couple spots like that and was fortunate to catch some very big bass for the area. Got some snark from locals to the point I just quit discussing it or showing pics. However, this put me on a dramatic uptake in catching bigger fish in public waters and I learned nuances that may take decades in a few years. No reason to dismiss the guy what he may share just because of oppurtunity. Having access to and being able to learn from a body of water that holds big fish can teach you things at a very, very rapid pace. The fisheries may be different, but the bass themselves have a lot more in common than haters seem to think.
CroakHunter reply :
On 6/9/2017 at 10:45 AM, craww said:
Good points...I used to fish a couple spots like that and was fortunate to catch some very big bass for the area. Got some snark from locals to the point I just quit discussing it or showing pics. However, this put me on a dramatic uptake in catching bigger fish in public waters and I learned nuances that may take decades in a few years. No reason to dismiss the guy what he may share just because of oppurtunity. Having access to and being able to learn from a body of water that holds big fish can teach you things at a very, very rapid pace. The fisheries may be different, but the bass themselves have a lot more in common than haters seem to think.
Absolutely correct! I fish 3 bodies of water in southern indiana that are private but over 80+ acres. I feel that fishing these and learning things about catching good fish consistently has helped me with my pond fishing. And Most importantly it has given me the confidence to feel that I can catch the biggest bass in whatever body of water that day on the biggest of baits because I have done it with success in the more gifted bodies of water that I fish. But regarding the big bait big fish theory, the last tourney I fished that was true. 7lb 2 oz fish on a 10.5" worm, 6lb 3oz on a MAGNUM rage bug, 4.5lb or a rage craw, our other 3 came on a spinnerbait and were all close to 3 pounds.
BassB8Caster reply :
On 6/9/2017 at 10:07 AM, shimmy said:No doubt people still have to catch fish on private lakes, but it is extremely discouraging for beginning to moderate anglers fishing their heavily pressured or unproductive public waters and watch videos from guys that fish private reservoirs and then expect to get some kind of similar results. Bamabass has every right to do what he does and i wish him luck. He is doing great with his business approach with it and there is nothing negative to say towards that aspect. Furthermore, I don't think he ever says that only this ONE lure will work and that is why i have respect for him. I just think that the people who watch the videos should be aware that he is fishing private and paid for waters for a reason...I take a lot more stock from people who fish public waters and catch big bass than those who do not. I have a youtube video of catching big bass on Lake Baccarac and i would never consider it a go-to video for how to fish a reservoir. I am fishing a lake that is world class and requires a plane ticket and a guide. Sure i had to work to catch the bigger fish and understand how to fish structure, but the big fish being caught are not indicative that I am teaching the most important techniques and fishing the best baits for big bass.
I agree with you 100%. I guess my angle (and my thought process for that matter) is to always take something at face value. You are right though, there probably are people out there that watch some of these videos and take away from it that its the gospel and THE way to fish. Like life in general, its all about perspective. We are all individuals and approach things differently. We also believe what we want to believe. Like you, i put more credibility in the guy who has success on high pressured lakes. Im very fortunate in that 9/10 bodies of water i fish are very low pressure. I fish out of a kayak and alot are small ponds that have no boat access. Now i cannot wait until i get my first boat. But that will change where i can fish, and how i fish. I look forward to being able to travel the country and fish some of the greatest fisheries. I also know and am ok with getting skunked. Im an outdoors guy so at the end of the day i win if i get to enjoy the outdoors. I dont have a chip on my shoulder where i need to prove to anyone im a great fisherman. I fish for the enjoyment of it.
For those of us who truly want to get better every day we are out on the water, learning true technique is the key. If we simply emulate what we see on a youtube video, we could see success or maybe not. Every body of water is different. Every time out conditions are different. As a relatively new bass fisherman, i know this is the most important aspect i need to implement. I need to be able to recognize conditions, read contour maps, read the shoreline, identify as much structure and cover as possible (i have no electronics), etc. This makes me a better fisherman. That usually separates those from success and not. Granted, everyone has the chance to go out and find the feedbag turned on and have a day. One may even catch a PB or a lunker. But a true fisherman that is really passionate for the sport will never hang its hat on one catch, one one great day. Like every successful person will tell you, im where im at because i failed more than everyone else. The failure makes you better (unless you give up).
BarefootBassin reply :
Some very good points made here. Just to add a bit of my own experience, I believe BamaBass does present some great tactics, but as some have said, one will get discouraged if expecting the same results from the nearby public pond. I love fishing big worms, lizards, and creatures here in TX, but I don't catch a whole lot of bass over 5 lbs in public ponds, especially where catch and release is mandatory and bass become overpopulated. I have found that I still catch much bigger fish on average on with the larger baits, but there is a lot of large forage here.
To put things in perspective, I caught just as many bass over 5 lbs in CO, which is NOT known for big bass, using 3" jerkbaits and 4" slug-gos and of course, jigs. The forage in CO is much smaller and I also fished ponds that were private or had little to no pressure and were NOT overpopulated (very important). There are a lot of factors at work that are needed to get big bass.
And YES, I have used tactics I learned from BamaBass, Bill Dance, and plenty of others that still catch bass that are larger than average with respect to specific fisheries.
Long-winded, yes, but my point is that it's great to try new tactics from watching others and you should never stop learning. Just keep in perspective that your results are still somewhat dependant on the quality of the body of water you are fishing. KEEP learning and KEEP fishing! Your time will come.
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