Okay, I give in. I've been fighting buying fluorocarbon and sticking with mono and braid but am tired of the line twist knots associated with braid. So, what brand fluorocarbon do I buy? I am looking for a brand that handles well in the 8-12 pound range. I have bought 14# 100% Berkley Fluorocarbon and was completely unsatisfied, the knots were terrible(lost three rattletraps in one day) and the memory was about the same.
seaguar invizx is what Ive used the last 2 yrs and love it! The BPS brand isn't bad either...
Spinning: 10 lb Seaguar InvizX
Baitcasting: 12 lb Seaguar AbrazX
I use 8lb Invisx on my 2500 spinning reel, and I've used 10, 12, 15, and 17lb Berkley 100% fluoro on my baitcasters with good results. Regardless, treating with a line conditioner is also recommended.
8lb Berkley fluoro has NOT cooperated well with my spinning reels
12# floro berkley
Another vote for Seaguar, Abazx on casting, Invisx on spinning.
Though not a true fluoro, but handles just as good, YoZuri is hard to beat. This stuff is tough! I use 12# on my 50E, and it holds up to snakeheads taking me under heavy cover and death rolling it around their bodies.
I like Seaguar Invizx/Arazx. BPS XPS flouro is also really nice but it's never in stock around here.
Yo-Zuri is an extremely cheap decent alternative.
I use the Berkley Fluorcarbon and haven't had a problem yet with it. What knot were you using if you don't mind me asking?
I was using a palomar
P - Line 100% fluoro. Not as expensive as some and has decent abrasion resistance and pretty low memory.
I have been using Pline Halo for spinning setup, and seaguar for BC.
Sunline Super FC. I tried Invizx and while it did cast a bit easier, I found the Sunline knot strength to be much better. Using the Shaw Grigsby no name knot.
Not trying to start a brand war here being that I have not tried every single brand of fluoro on the market BUT, no need to since Sunline Sniper in 7lb., 8 lb. and 10 lb. test is everything one would ever need or want to do with fluorocarbon. Do yourself a favor and get some and try it out. You will not be disappointed.
I have had less than stellar results with Sunline, both shooter and sniper. I've not been happy with the memory, the abrasion resistance, or the handling. They're both far below the abrasion resistance or longevity I've experienced with other lines. I'll say that, as a starter, Yo Zuri is a better line overall, than Sniper. The vast majority of what I fish anymore is Tatsu. The expense is minimized when you compare the longevity of the line. It handles so much better than almost every other I've used, it has superior abrasion resistance and knot strength as well.
When it comes down to it, for casting gear Abrazx is a better line than Sunline, from my experience. It's got greater consistency in density, it's got more consistent break strength, and it has better strength to diameter ratios. When Seaguar says that Abrazx is (As a point of reference) .013" for 15lb, it's going to be within .00001 of that. In most of the tests we've done with many other lines, including Sunline you're pretty lucky if you take an average measurement with .002 of the measurement of .013 for their said diameter; it generally runs on the large side.
Oh, and another superb fluoro? Gamma. If they can remain consistent in their supply, they make a REALLY good line.
I am currently on my fourth flouro supplier, with disappointing results the first three times. I'm currently using Seaguar Invisx and so far, so good.
OK, so everyone hates on Berkley Vanish, but what about the Berkley Trilene flourocarbon? I've never used the Vanish, but the Trilene has worked well for me. I'm most interested in what the Vanish haters have to say.
seaguar invizx
Thanks for the input guys
Opinions are like navels. Everyone has one. I'm very pleased with both the BPS XPS flouro and braided lines.
On 5/31/2012 at 9:32 AM, Long Mike said:Opinions are like navels. Everyone has one. I'm very pleased with both the BPS XPS flouro and braided lines.
I like braid, just not on the rod giving me problems. Its the one in my ID photo.
On 5/31/2012 at 4:25 AM, USMA2015 said:OK, so everyone hates on Berkley Vanish, but what about the Berkley Trilene flourocarbon? I've never used the Vanish, but the Trilene has worked well for me. I'm most interested in what the Vanish haters have to say.
The Trilene 100% is a pretty decent line, imo. I'd fish that over Sniper in a heartbeat.
I had 12# Vanish on a 50e used for soft plastics and liked it a LOT.On 5/31/2012 at 4:25 AM, USMA2015 said:OK, so everyone hates on Berkley Vanish, but what about the Berkley Trilene flourocarbon? I've never used the Vanish, but the Trilene has worked well for me. I'm most interested in what the Vanish haters have to say.
I have used 15# Tatsu on my 7'11'' jig rod and still had a problem with hooksets! I got home and tied it to a post and gave about 60' of it a pull and it was WAAAAY STRETCHY!!! Should I have tried a larger size (20#)? or is the KVD L&L my problem?On 5/30/2012 at 12:31 PM, Hooligan said:The vast majority of what I fish anymore is Tatsu. The expense is minimized when you compare the longevity of the line. It handles so much better than almost every other I've used, it has superior abrasion resistance and knot strength as well.
When it comes down to it, for casting gear Abrazx is a better line than Sunline, from my experience. It's got greater consistency in density, it's got more consistent break strength, and it has better strength to diameter ratios. When Seaguar says that Abrazx is (As a point of reference) .013" for 15lb, it's going to be within .00001 of that. In most of the tests we've done with many other lines, including Sunline you're pretty lucky if you take an average measurement with .002 of the measurement of .013 for their said diameter; it generally runs on the large side.
Oh, and another superb fluoro? Gamma. If they can remain consistent in their supply, they make a REALLY good line.
G-Man,
Ask 10 people, you'll get 10 different answers. Again, no disrespect to other opinions but I take the high road and will not slam on other brands. What works for one application/angler doesn't work for another. Like others, I've tried many and found one that I feel is superior. And my being Japanese has nothing to do with my choice, lol.
Take home message - give two or three brands a try and see what works for you.
On 5/31/2012 at 11:46 PM, fishindad said:G-Man,
Ask 10 people, you'll get 10 different answers. Again, no disrespect to other opinions but I take the high road and will not slam on other brands. What works for one application/angler doesn't work for another. Like others, I've tried many and found one that I feel is superior. And my being Japanese has nothing to do with my choice, lol.
Take home message - give two or three brands a try and see what works for you.
The thing that does stink about being young is, in my case, not a lot of access to cash. I'm just trying to minimize the amount I spend trying to find the "one"
I still would like to know what you use.
G-Man,
I understand your situation as I too was young once and had less cash for tackle. I use Sunline fluorocarbon line but only for a couple of specific tactics. I'll use 7 lb. Sniper for dropshotting smallies on Lake St. Clair and Erie and 8 lb. for dragging tubes on Lake St. Clair. I also use 10 lb. on my wacky Senko rod.
You mentioned rattlebaits. In my humble opinion, the best line setup for just about all horizontal baits is braid with a fluorocarbon leader. Use a uni-to-uni knot or an Albright knot and you'll be fine as long as you take your time and tie the main line to leader knot correctly. Then you won't have to worry about expensive spools of fluorocarbon line or wasting it due to breakoffs. And make sure to use a heavy enough leader i.e., 10-17 lb. at least, depending on the weight of baits you're throwing.
On 5/31/2012 at 8:33 PM, Hi Salenity said:I have used 15# Tatsu on my 7'11'' jig rod and still had a problem with hooksets! I got home and tied it to a post and gave about 60' of it a pull and it was WAAAAY STRETCHY!!! Should I have tried a larger size (20#)? or is the KVD L&L my problem?
In all reality, the stretch isn't an issue for me. I've never had issue with hooksets or with moving fish with it.
Berkley Trilene Pro Grade 15#...good stuff!
Seagaur all the way, I have used invisx but switched to the red label last summer and have liked it just as much at half the cost. This line has saved me two big fish in the past month....one was a 5lber in a club tournament that had me under a slab rock on a hookset and another was a three pound fish that wrapped me around a laydown on a hookset. I kept pressure on both and they came free after about 30 seconds and both were landed without the line failing, in fact the line had very little wear in both cases. I can't say enough good things about this line.