Why don't the pros use them? 2024
Olebiker reply :
I read a lot of stories by owners of really fast bass boats like Allison, Bullet, etc. bragging about how fast their boats run.
If speed is that important, I wonder why none of the top pros in BASS run these boats. I don't know about the top FLW competitors, but I can't remember ever seeing anyone in one of these fast *** boats ever picking up a check for a top ten placing.
Fishing Rhino reply :
I suspect that most of the top pros run the boat of the manufacturer who pays them the most money to use it.
Could be that Allison and Bullet among others are not interested in sponsoring fishermen. Just a guess.
Olebiker reply :
QuoteI suspect that most of the top pros run the boat of the manufacturer who pays them the most money to use it.Could be that Allison and Bullet among others are not interested in sponsoring fishermen. Just a guess.
If speed was such a big competitive advantage, wouldn't Ranger, Triton, Champion, Nitro and the other big name manufacturers build a high performance boat?
fishfordollars reply :
Personally I think just about any bass boat with a 250 or higher engine on it would be considered a high performance rig. JMO
Catt reply :
Most of the Pros run 75+ mph at a minimum with many in the upper 80s; Allison & Bullet have some fast boats but don't think for a minute they are the fastest in tournament trim.
Allison or Bullet do not sponsor a Pro Team nor do they offer contingency money 
RobbyZ5001 reply :
I think stability is an issue. I wouldn't want to get beat up if I am fishing 200 days a year.
J Francho reply :
There's your answer!QuoteMost of the Pros run 75+ mph at a minimum with many in the upper 80s; Allison & Bullet have some fast boats but don't think for a minute they are the fastest in tournament trim.Allison or Bullet do not sponsor a Pro Team nor do they offer contingency money
old bassman reply :
Pros run whichever manufacturer gives them the most sponsorship money. Bullet and Allison do not play in that arena.
cart7t reply :
Ally's, Blazers and Bullets are something of a niche market within the overall bass boat market. They appeal to certain anglers who are interested in owning the fastest bass boats out there regardless of some of the drawbacks of those particular boats when it comes to other aspects of boating and fishing performance.
None of those companies builds a lot of boats and the ones they do build go for a pretty penny. Whether Roland, Skeet or Ike used one would make little difference in how many they sell. Those that want those types of boats are already aware of those manufacturers. They're not in the mass produced boat building market nor do they want to be.
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
They cant fish either going 80+ .I seen a guy launching a Allison a few days ago.He seemed like he was skeered the algae piled up on the launch was gonna hurt his poor boat all i could do was
5bass reply :
QuoteAlly's, Blazers and Bullets are something of a niche market within the overall bass boat market. They appeal to certain anglers who are interested in owning the fastest bass boats out there regardless of some of the drawbacks of those particular boats when it comes to other aspects of boating and fishing performance.None of those companies builds a lot of boats and the ones they do build go for a pretty penny. Whether Roland, Skeet or Ike used one would make little difference in how many they sell. Those that want those types of boats are already aware of those manufacturers. They're not in the mass produced boat building market nor do they want to be.
DING! DING! DING! WE HAVE A WINNER FOLKS!
I'd bet the farm that if any of the 'go fast' boat companies laid out enough money to become the primary boat sponsor of the Elite Tour (knocking out Triton), put up contingency money and also sponsored several of the top pro's, you'd see every Tom, Joe and Harry buying that brand all of the sudden and your local lake would be over flowing with 'em.
Catt reply :
Show Me The Money
Ellesar reply :
QuoteMost of the Pros run 75+ mph at a minimum with many in the upper 80s; Allison & Bullet have some fast boats but don't think for a minute they are the fastest in tournament trim.Allison or Bullet do not sponsor a Pro Team nor do they offer contingency money
I dont think that's necessarily true. My buddy was a marshall when the elites were at Guntersville and none of the boats he ran in would run that fast. They carry a TON of stuff, like spare trolling motors and so forth that make their boats VERY heavy. The follow along boats had no trouble keeping up. He was suprised at how slow their boats would run, and how much extra stuff they carry. Guess when 100,000 is on the line, you can't afford to have to run back to the dock to get something if you need it, they carry it all with them.
Ellesar reply :
QuoteI read a lot of stories by owners of really fast bass boats like Allison, Bullet, etc. bragging about how fast their boats run.If speed is that important, I wonder why none of the top pros in BASS run these boats. I don't know about the top FLW competitors, but I can't remember ever seeing anyone in one of these fast *** boats ever picking up a check for a top ten placing.
In Allison's case, they're hand made and from what I've heard they just don't care about sponsoring elite guys. I don't think they make enough boats to feel that it would be worth the time. I think in the case of hand made boats, like an Allison, the mass market appeal isn't there, its a speciality niche market. Cookie cutter boats are a different story. Don't know about some of the others like a Bullet, Blazer, etc. But they really don't make that many Allison's in a year.
Ellesar reply :
QuoteQuoteAlly's, Blazers and Bullets are something of a niche market within the overall bass boat market. They appeal to certain anglers who are interested in owning the fastest bass boats out there regardless of some of the drawbacks of those particular boats when it comes to other aspects of boating and fishing performance.None of those companies builds a lot of boats and the ones they do build go for a pretty penny. Whether Roland, Skeet or Ike used one would make little difference in how many they sell. Those that want those types of boats are already aware of those manufacturers. They're not in the mass produced boat building market nor do they want to be.
DING! DING! DING! WE HAVE A WINNER FOLKS!
I'd bet the farm that if any of the 'go fast' boat companies laid out enough money to become the primary boat sponsor of the Elite Tour (knocking out Triton), put up contingency money and also sponsored several of the top pro's, you'd see every Tom, Joe and Harry buying that brand all of the sudden and your local lake would be over flowing with 'em.
I don't know. How many people are going to drop $60,000 - $70,000 for an Allison? If you like speed, and that's your priority in a boat, you likely already know about Allison. But I don't think you would see many people dropping that kind of cash even if they did sponsor the Elite series. Ofcourse if they did, they would have to change their entire business model, because that would require them to be able to produce more boats for the Elite series than they currently make in a year. Darris Allison hasn't shown any inclination to make that sort of change. They fit quite nicely in their niche.
Koop reply :
A seat belt is one thing... a jet harness with g suit is another
5bass reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteAlly's, Blazers and Bullets are something of a niche market within the overall bass boat market. They appeal to certain anglers who are interested in owning the fastest bass boats out there regardless of some of the drawbacks of those particular boats when it comes to other aspects of boating and fishing performance.None of those companies builds a lot of boats and the ones they do build go for a pretty penny. Whether Roland, Skeet or Ike used one would make little difference in how many they sell. Those that want those types of boats are already aware of those manufacturers. They're not in the mass produced boat building market nor do they want to be.
DING! DING! DING! WE HAVE A WINNER FOLKS!
I'd bet the farm that if any of the 'go fast' boat companies laid out enough money to become the primary boat sponsor of the Elite Tour (knocking out Triton), put up contingency money and also sponsored several of the top pro's, you'd see every Tom, Joe and Harry buying that brand all of the sudden and your local lake would be over flowing with 'em.
I don't know. How many people are going to drop $60,000 - $70,000 for an Allison? If you like speed, and that's your priority in a boat, you likely already know about Allison. But I don't think you would see many people dropping that kind of cash even if they did sponsor the Elite series. Ofcourse if they did, they would have to change their entire business model, because that would require them to be able to produce more boats for the Elite series than they currently make in a year. Darris Allison hasn't shown any inclination to make that sort of change. They fit quite nicely in their niche.
I fully understand that the go fast companies would have to change their whole business around to accomodate new customers and they probably arent up for that. They are comfortable being small....and expensive in their little niche market.
As for people not wanting to spend $60 or $70 grand....I know there are Z9's that are that much already and I see plenty of them on the water.
Ellesar reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAlly's, Blazers and Bullets are something of a niche market within the overall bass boat market. They appeal to certain anglers who are interested in owning the fastest bass boats out there regardless of some of the drawbacks of those particular boats when it comes to other aspects of boating and fishing performance.None of those companies builds a lot of boats and the ones they do build go for a pretty penny. Whether Roland, Skeet or Ike used one would make little difference in how many they sell. Those that want those types of boats are already aware of those manufacturers. They're not in the mass produced boat building market nor do they want to be.
DING! DING! DING! WE HAVE A WINNER FOLKS!
I'd bet the farm that if any of the 'go fast' boat companies laid out enough money to become the primary boat sponsor of the Elite Tour (knocking out Triton), put up contingency money and also sponsored several of the top pro's, you'd see every Tom, Joe and Harry buying that brand all of the sudden and your local lake would be over flowing with 'em.
I don't know. How many people are going to drop $60,000 - $70,000 for an Allison? If you like speed, and that's your priority in a boat, you likely already know about Allison. But I don't think you would see many people dropping that kind of cash even if they did sponsor the Elite series. Ofcourse if they did, they would have to change their entire business model, because that would require them to be able to produce more boats for the Elite series than they currently make in a year. Darris Allison hasn't shown any inclination to make that sort of change. They fit quite nicely in their niche.
I fully understand that the go fast companies would have to change their whole business around to accomodate new customers and they probably arent up for that. They are comfortable being small....and expensive in their little niche market.
As for people not wanting to spend $60 or $70 grand....I know there are Z9's that are that much already and I see plenty of them on the water.
A Z-9 that's over $60,000.00? They list at $47,000.00. I'm sure if you added enough options you might could get it up there, but then if you added those same options to an Allison, you would be talking $80,000.00.
5bass reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAlly's, Blazers and Bullets are something of a niche market within the overall bass boat market. They appeal to certain anglers who are interested in owning the fastest bass boats out there regardless of some of the drawbacks of those particular boats when it comes to other aspects of boating and fishing performance.None of those companies builds a lot of boats and the ones they do build go for a pretty penny. Whether Roland, Skeet or Ike used one would make little difference in how many they sell. Those that want those types of boats are already aware of those manufacturers. They're not in the mass produced boat building market nor do they want to be.
DING! DING! DING! WE HAVE A WINNER FOLKS!
I'd bet the farm that if any of the 'go fast' boat companies laid out enough money to become the primary boat sponsor of the Elite Tour (knocking out Triton), put up contingency money and also sponsored several of the top pro's, you'd see every Tom, Joe and Harry buying that brand all of the sudden and your local lake would be over flowing with 'em.
I don't know. How many people are going to drop $60,000 - $70,000 for an Allison? If you like speed, and that's your priority in a boat, you likely already know about Allison. But I don't think you would see many people dropping that kind of cash even if they did sponsor the Elite series. Ofcourse if they did, they would have to change their entire business model, because that would require them to be able to produce more boats for the Elite series than they currently make in a year. Darris Allison hasn't shown any inclination to make that sort of change. They fit quite nicely in their niche.
I fully understand that the go fast companies would have to change their whole business around to accomodate new customers and they probably arent up for that. They are comfortable being small....and expensive in their little niche market.
As for people not wanting to spend $60 or $70 grand....I know there are Z9's that are that much already and I see plenty of them on the water.
A Z-9 that's over $60,000.00? They list at $47,000.00. I'm sure if you added enough options you might could get it up there, but then if you added those same options to an Allison, you would be talking $80,000.00.
OK, OK....you win the peeing contest.
J Francho reply :
See what you get in a Z-9 for 47K, basically a tugboat disguised as a bass boat, LOL. I just built one on the site that was $67,645, sans the power pole and a few other things....
5bass reply :
Yeah, the $47K Z9 is with the 225 Opti and pretty much the hull with a little carpet. Upgrade to the 250 or 300, (like what the Allison will have standard), plus the other usual upgrades (that the Allison will have standard) and presto!
(But again, I'm done with this thread)
South FLA reply :
Most mass production bass boats are bath tubs compared to Allison, Bullet, or Stroker, full tourny load or not, but I'll still take my Ranger for comfort.
Here are some crazy go fast bass boats filling the NICHE:
Ellesar reply :
QuoteSee what you get in a Z-9 for 47K, basically a tugboat disguised as a bass boat, LOL. I just built one on the site that was $67,645, sans the power pole and a few other things....
which is why I said "I'm sure if you added enough options you might could get it up there, but then if you added those same options to an Allison, you would be talking $80,000.00. "
I didn't say you couldn't get one that expensive, but if all of the same options are applied to the Allison, which doesn't come with all that much optional stuff, then it would be an $80,000.00 boat. The hull alone is $42,000.00 without a motor attached.
Don't really know what the point of this discussion is anymore, we all agree that custom boats like Allison don't make enough boats to appeal to a mass market and thus sponsoring pro's in the elite series doesn't make a lot of sense for them.
J Francho reply :
I'm with you, man. Not really willing to shell out for Extenze, LOL.Quote(But again, I'm done with this thread)
Bull Hurley reply :
QuoteMost mass production bass boats are bath tubs compared to Allison, Bullet, or Stroker, full tourny load or not, but I'll still take my Ranger for comfort.Here are some crazy go fast bass boats filling the NICHE:
A whole lot of chine walk in that video, give me smooth ride at 70 over chine walk at 80+ anyday.
Olebiker reply :
QuoteMost mass production bass boats are bath tubs compared to Allison, Bullet, or Stroker, full tourny load or not, but I'll still take my Ranger for comfort.Here are some crazy go fast bass boats filling the NICHE:
The niche doesn't seem to have much to do with actually fishing does it?
5bass reply :
QuoteQuoteMost mass production bass boats are bath tubs compared to Allison, Bullet, or Stroker, full tourny load or not, but I'll still take my Ranger for comfort.Here are some crazy go fast bass boats filling the NICHE:
The niche doesn't seem to have much to do with actually fishing does it?
Last time I checked, everybody shuts down the big motor to fish whether you've got a 3hp or a 300hp. Some guys just have that need for speed and like to feel that rush on the way to their spot. Nothing wrong with having a go fast boat. Seriously.
igtat900 reply :
QuoteI think stability is an issue. I wouldn't want to get beat up if I am fishing 200 days a year.
Have you ever fished out of one or rode in a fast boat ? fished out of a few bullets and rode in a couple strokers i never got beat up
South FLA reply :
QuoteQuoteI think stability is an issue. I wouldn't want to get beat up if I am fishing 200 days a year.Have you ever fished out of one or rode in a fast boat ? fished out of a few bullets and rode in a couple strokers i never got beat up
I agree, but I haven't ridden on 3-4 foot breakers. I fished out of a Bullet with 3 people plus a guide with no issues. I think though the money issue for the small manufactures and sponsorship is the reason all the guys aren't running them as stated before.
DINK WHISPERER reply :
QuoteI suspect that most of the top pros run the boat of the manufacturer who pays them the most money to use it.Could be that Allison and Bullet among others are not interested in sponsoring fishermen. Just a guess.
My thoughts as well!
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