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1436 Jon Project update 2024


fishing user avatarFishingBuds reply : 

Well I finally started and am well into it now.

I decided to go camo, but, still used good paint, went with the ecthing primer first then laid down the marine Olive green.

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It was more limey than I wanted, but it dried much darker

Got the camo templates out

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I'm further along but, will get to the other picks soon


fishing user avatarskillet reply : 

 Looking good ;). The etcher was probably a good idea. Have you decided about the inside?

                                     As Ever,

                                      skillet


fishing user avatarLow_Budget_Hooker reply : 

Looks great FB!!  What are your plans for the interior?


fishing user avatarBrian_Reeves reply : 
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What are your plans for the interior?

Bose speakers, Sirrus Radio, MP3 player, leather on the seats and chrome on the dash ;D

I'm jealous FB.  I'd love to have the equipment and space to do a project like that.  Not to mention that nice of a jon to work with.  Looks really good man.


fishing user avatarmaxke01 reply : 

looks great so far. Keep us posted!


fishing user avatarCGH reply : 

Thats gonna be one sweet bass fishing machine.   Nice job on the Camo ;)


fishing user avatarFishingBuds reply : 

Thank ya fellas,

well it should be simple on the inside.

I took Russ's advice and didn't strip the floor or bench seats, I'm covering that up with a small deck up front w/storage, sub floor in the middle w/storage, and figure out the back how I want it. Then cover all it up with carpet.

Putting on a MinnKota endura 55# bow mount hand control, along w/my mercury 6(want to be able and take it off for the all elec/lakes) HummingBird 525 fishfinder and a XPS one bank On-Board marine battery charger. Rod holders too.

I've got seat pedelstalls that are 8" or 12" high(can't think of it now)

I have one issue I'm tryen to work out. its the transom area, I gotta tank issue and a battery issue, I'm going to lay down 5/8 ply on the back bench for the seat to mount securly and then I was going to run the ply over to the transum for cosmetic reasons, the tank is a 3gallon and its the smallest I found. and the battery tray is what I was wanting but I made a Boo Boo on measurements

here's the picks

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DSC03893.jpg best I think is notch for the tank handle under the lip of the seat. this way it would fit.

DSC03895.jpgso to cover all this up I'd have to deck up higher, I wasn't planning on using it as a deck but storage and such, just don't want it to look stupid


fishing user avatar_tyler_wright_ reply : 

Just take your battery out of that box and everytime you get through fishing take it out and put it up in your shop, i had the same problem and that's what i'm doing. But for the gas tank, look around on the internet and find one small enough. That's all i can think of about the gas tank.


fishing user avatarSam reply : 

Beautiful.  Simply beautiful.

And yes, what are you going to do to the interior?


fishing user avatarFishingBuds reply : 
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Beautiful. Simply beautiful.

And yes, what are you going to do to the interior?

well, I got some zebra skin and some angel hair, I'll lay those stripes down and trim with angel hair, on the side I'll put Huggy Bear 8-)

get me a aquarium stlye seats filled with oscars, maybe some curb fillers, no wait dock fillers ;)

Need to figure out how to do some hydraulics 8-)

Huggy out ;D


fishing user avatarjemackinnon83 reply : 

The battery box and lid wouldn't fit in my boat either.  I ended up just using the plastic box screwed to the bench and not using the lid.  I don't think you really need it, the plywood deck will go over it.


fishing user avataralabamajon56 reply : 

looks good i always like a good jon build should get somethin taste to put on the table from that rig


fishing user avatarFishingBuds reply : 

well I got some more to post.

all of the framing for the front deck is 1" aluminum L-angle, bolted together and riveted to the cross ribbing and the tank seat. I made trusses, there's three running length wise.

The front deck flooring will be 5/8" plywood, treated

I plan on adding a floor between the two benches (5/8" ply)also will add 3 pieces of 1 1/2" square aluminum tubing on top of all four ribs.  That way I'll managed to get 3" of storage depth.  It's not allot, but will work, and more will help.  The floor will be one solid piece, I'll cut the doors out and carpet them, same with the front deck.  All of these compartments will be fully carpeted.

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I used a rivet gun called the "Big Daddy" that shoots 1/4" in diameter rivets. this gun is usually for automotive works, They are proud of the rivets-.61 cents each ::)

But on the ribs I did not want to take a chance for bolts to strip out. thats why I chose to rivet and I wanted the biggest ones.  The gun will go for $130 bucks-I've seen it for that, I found it on ebay for $40 bucks also. Well I ended up getting one on HarborFrieght.com for $14 bucks ;) isn't that amazing.

I had me (250# frame), my son is 100# and my wife(which will remain weightless) on top of the deck and we moved about, it did great-no creaks or movements :)


fishing user avatarjemackinnon83 reply : 

Looking good.  Harbor Freight is awesome isn't it:).  Probably not the best quality tools but you sure can't beat the price.  That riveter got the job done didn't it?


fishing user avatarFishingBuds reply : 

yep, they got the stuff cheap. its slowly becoming my tool store.

The gun has worked out killer, but the rivets was a surprize on the cost ;)


fishing user avatarFishingBuds reply : 

nice weather this weekend, I was able to get out and do some more on the project. I finished the front deck except for a couple little things

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The hatch turned out great considering it was a pain for me(just one of those things) and the hinge about done me in-took for ever to center and get just right, still a little off :-/

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I carpeted the back bench and pop riveted the seat bracket on, again I used 1/4 inch diameter auto rivets, so she's not going anywhere

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Th famous "Big Daddy" rivet gun ;)

also a special "Thanks" to a BR member Dan(Daniel My BratWurst) for hooken me up with some wire for the project. Thanks Bro :)


fishing user avatarjemackinnon83 reply : 

Lookin good.  You taking it out tomorrow to see if it still floats?


fishing user avatarjhoffman reply : 

Hydrolics? For what pnuematic activated valves for a livewell?


fishing user avatarjhoffman reply : 

Can I ask... are those rivets the same size as the ones they use in making the boat? I gotta replace a transom and a lot of rivets have to come out. Id rather not bolt it. I see they sell 1/4" air rivet gun on the site, if thats the same size, ill be having that tool.


fishing user avatarFishingBuds reply : 
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Can I ask... are those rivets the same size as the ones they use in making the boat? I gotta replace a transom and a lot of rivets have to come out. Id rather not bolt it. I see they sell 1/4" air rivet gun on the site, if thats the same size, ill be having that tool.

No not the same, I believe your looking for the "mushroom rivet" at least thats what we called them back when I worked at a trucking  wreck rebuilt company. someone would be on the inside with the block against the back side of the rivet, I on the outside with said air gun.

the ones I used are automotive rivets used in the window and door bizz ;)


fishing user avatarfishbear reply : 
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Can I ask... are those rivets the same size as the ones they use in making the boat? I gotta replace a transom and a lot of rivets have to come out. Id rather not bolt it. I see they sell 1/4" air rivet gun on the site, if thats the same size, ill be having that tool.

I had to to some transom work in my boat last year.  Had to drill out about 12 rivets.  I replaced them with 1/4 in. aluminum bolts, lock washers and nuts,  and sealed them good with Marine Silicone.  Never once has leaked and looks good too.


fishing user avatarjhoffman reply : 
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Can I ask... are those rivets the same size as the ones they use in making the boat? I gotta replace a transom and a lot of rivets have to come out. Id rather not bolt it. I see they sell 1/4" air rivet gun on the site, if thats the same size, ill be having that tool.

I had to to some transom work in my boat last year.  Had to drill out about 12 rivets.  I replaced them with 1/4 in. aluminum bolts, lock washers and nuts,  and sealed them good with Marine Silicone.  Never once has leaked and looks good too.

Aluminum bolts... wouldnt they be soft?


fishing user avatarfishbear reply : 

Not at all, since they are holding aluminum.  They work just great.  No weaker than an aluminum rivet.


fishing user avatarjhoffman reply : 
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Not at all, since they are holding aluminum.  They work just great.  No weaker than an aluminum rivet.

Ive never even seen an aluminum bolt. Where do you get them? Any benefit over stainless?


fishing user avatarBassBird reply : 

umm, the only thing i can think of is aluminum is lighter??? i have a 14' aluminum, never have to worry about paint


fishing user avatarfishbear reply : 
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Not at all, since they are holding aluminum.  They work just great.  No weaker than an aluminum rivet.

Ive never even seen an aluminum bolt. Where do you get them? Any benefit over stainless?

I got them at either Lowes or Home Depot... not any more expensive than standard bolts....  cheaper than stainless though.


fishing user avatarFishingBuds reply : 

finished the middle floor build, was harder to do than the front deck I think ;)

I still need to buy a few things and wire it up but here is the latest

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my son was a big help, its nice when they can keep up :)

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fishing user avatarjhoffman reply : 

You're doing your layout EXACTLY as I had planned. Planning to carpet the sides in the center? I unfortunately dont have a garage/windproof shop. I did however brave the elements on sunday here in PA (about 30 degrees) to rip the transom out of the boat. 22 rivets and 8 bolts. Completely rotten, falling apart in my hands. As a side note, I tried to patch some holes from the previous owners with aluminum brazing rods. Little advice, forget it, doesnt work. Those guys demonstrate that stuff at the sportsman shows on pop cans and make it look slick. Well, good luck heating a boat with mapgas to 745 degrees, aint gonna happen. Pretty much gave up on that. Im so busy for the next two weekends I dont know when ill get back to it. Fly tying show to tie at this weekend, gotta help my pro team stock the brook trout retreat next weekend.

Anyone in Erie this weekend stop by folleys... ill be there tying.


fishing user avatarKansas Angler reply : 

veryy nice job your doni, ive got a 1440 and  i should be finishin it up probbaly this spring break.


fishing user avatarFishingBuds reply : 

Thanks guys,

I like to carpet the sides and may do it down the road.  

The storage areas' in the middle are 3" deep just enough for the big plano boxes full of plastics ;)




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