17' Nitro with a 150 Merc EFI 2024
hawghunter1744 reply :
I am debating on purchasing a 2004 Nitro 750 with a 150 Mercury EFI. Does anyone have this boat and motor? If so, how fast does that motor push it? I'm not looking to buy a speed demon, but I dont want to be outrun by pontoon boats either.
dman reply :
i dont have it but i would guess that motor will go around 55mph
Wayne P. reply :
I'm not familiar with Nitros, but if the model number means 17 and 1/2 feet and the motor is a 150, you should have no problem going above 60 mph. My bass boat is 17' 9" and I have an OMC 150 and get 68.4 mph.
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njpaulc reply :
The hull is rated for 135hp, you will be over powered by 15hp. Might make it hard to get insurance, and might make you criminally lible in the event of an accident.
The boat should run mid to upper 60's, but might be a bear to handle.
skunked_again reply :
QuoteI'm not familiar with Nitros, but if the model number means 17 and 1/2 feet and the motor is a 150, you should have no problem going above 60 mph. My bass boat is 17' 9" and I have an OMC 150 and get 68.4 mph.PM sent
thats a very respectable speed. i had a 884 Savage 175 Merc that ran 63 mph GPS. is your motor stock?
skeetercaster reply :
I have a Skeeter SX-180 (17'8") It has a max hp rateing of 135hp,I'm running 53mph/GPS with a 115hp Yamaha..deffently not a screamer, but it's comfortable to fish out of
Wayne P. reply :
skunked_again, yes it is stock. The boat is rated for 150 HP. I run a 24" Raker prop. The hull design and length allows for such permormance.
Uncle Leo reply :
I would think you may get over 60 MPH with this set up. I have a Nitro LX 700 with a 90 HP. I top out at 58 MPH with minimun weight and no chop so I can tweak her in. No doubt over 60 MPH is optainable.
thetr20one reply :
QuoteI would think you may get over 60 MPH with this set up. I have a Nitro LX 700 with a 90 HP. I top out at 58 MPH with minimun weight and no chop so I can tweak her in. No doubt over 60 MPH is optainable.
You might want to check that speed on a gps. 58MPH with a stock 90HP is really not possible is it? Do they even make a perfomance prop for a 90? I have had a, and know 2 guys with 17 foot 115hp and 50-54 is max. Speedometers are NEVER correct. Even with a 115 you would have to seriously tweak and give up lots of holeshot to get 58gps.
XcoM274 reply :
You aren't going to get outrun by a pontoon with that rig. mid 50's id guess. My dad has a 175 on an 18' and she hits 53
fishfordollars reply :
All you guys need to GPS your boats speed. That speed on the 90hp is not right and the high 60s with that 17'9" 150 merc is not right either.
The greatest killer of speed is a good GPS.
Hate to put a damper on these speed figures, but ya'll are dreaming.
Wayne P. reply :
The 17' 9" with a 150 OMC is a Javelin and the 68.4 MPH is GPS speed. My speedometer shows just over 70. Some guys I know run a 25" prop on that hull and get over 70 GPS- too slow of a hole shot for me.
thetr20one reply :
I have a Triton TR-20 with a 225 Opti. With a 25 inch Trophy I get 71.9 gps all day no matter the load, full wells, a partner, all our fishing gear and plenty of gas, it will run all the way up to the limiter. With a 27" trophy the fastest I have been able to go because of the size of our lakes is 78.7gps at 5600 rpm but, unless it is cool and I have a light load it dogs out of the hole. A 26" Trophy is what I need. Either way my speedo stays pegged at 85+ mph at anything over 65 mph. Countless times I have proved to reacreational boaters their cabin cruisers and fun boats won't really go 60mph. A GPS is the ONLY way to find out your true speed. You can go to ***.com and see what you can expect from any boat, they have forums for all makes and motors. Just don't post numbers you get off your speedo those there is too much info there to make false claims or guess speeds. That being said I have a friend with a 18 footer 150 Merc and he gets 63.5 gps all day.
08 Nitro 750DC Vengeance prop, Lowrance X47 tx, Garmin E-Trex w/mount, Robert G - OK
07 90 Merc Optimax Legend. Motorguide Pro 46#. 48 mph @ 5800 rpm (gps).
GPS is bummer sometimes and I hope I didn't burst any bubbles. I just would like to save face for some guys who are unsure. Safe boating all!!!
fishfordollars reply :
I am sure that 48mph is about right for that 90. There goes that bubble.
When you have built as many as I have you just know when someone is blowing smoke.
Wayne P. reply :
fishfordollars, what boats do you build?
fishfordollars reply :
V-6 Mercs
thetr20one reply :
QuoteI am sure that 48mph is about right for that 90. There goes that bubble.When you have built as many as I have you just know when someone is blowing smoke.
Yeah. I learned a ton of info AFTER I bought my first high performance bass rig and try to keep up with the performance side of boating too.
fishfordollars reply :
I retired several years ago from the insurance industry due to medical conditions. I worked years on the weekends when I was young learning how to machine, hone, and assemble engines. I have had a shop many years working on mercury engines. I had certified mechanics working in my shop as a side line for years. My love is in the machine work. My friend that I worked for retired a few years ago and I bought his machining equipment. I don't do a lot anymore, right now I have five engines in the shop in different stages of rebuild. Just something to help me keep busy.
fishfordollars reply :
Yes it would and probably have to freshen(Rehone and rering) about every 2 hours or 10 passes. If that long.
Wayne P. reply :
Woooppppsss, sorry for the misnaming, fishfordollars, I converse with fishforcash on another site. I also retired from the insurance industry a couple of years ago after 43 1/2 years.
skunked_again reply :
QuoteAll you guys need to GPS your boats speed. That speed on the 90hp is not right and the high 60s with that 17'9" 150 merc is not right either.The greatest killer of speed is a good GPS.
Hate to put a damper on these speed figures, but ya'll are dreaming.
2 things, i knew i had the fastest 150 hp merc till i got gps. i always wondered why my 884 Savage w/175 merc. was so much slower than other boats i read about.
on a side note, my 1800 FS w 150 hp merc. will do almost 70 mph at about 2900 rpm's, being pulled behind mt truck on the trailer....
fishfordollars reply :
My skeeter will run about 75 to and from the lake. On the water about 58. That's with 3 gallons of gas and only one battery in it. It has a 150 on it by the way.
Wayne P. reply :
fishfordollars, I can attest to your performance figures, I pass lots of your model boats when I'm on the water.
Wayne P. reply :
fishfordollars-
I was looking at some performance figures and noticed that a lot of guys are getting better performance than you with 150 HP. This one in particular caught my attention, maybe your boat is not set up for top performace:
04 Skeeter TZX190 Lowrance LMS320 w/GPS, Motorguide 71#. Bassin John - TX
04 150 Yamaha EFI 68 mph @ 5800 rpm (gps). "Just finished breaking it in!
OX66 What a nic rig! Pics are on the way. Oh, incase you didn't
see it.....68 mph /GPS."
Maybe the satellites weren't all working correctly when you did you performance run.
Skeeters are a good fishing platform; I have driven a few and fished in many. I can't say that I have even had a pleasurable fishing/riding experience in a Nitro though.
thetr20one reply :
Quotefishfordollars-I was looking at some performance figures and noticed that a lot of guys are getting better performance than you with 150 HP. This one in particular caught my attention, maybe your boat is not set up for top performace:
04 Skeeter TZX190 Lowrance LMS320 w/GPS, Motorguide 71#. Bassin John - TX
04 150 Yamaha EFI 68 mph @ 5800 rpm (gps). "Just finished breaking it in!
OX66 What a nic rig! Pics are on the way. Oh, incase you didn't
see it.....68 mph /GPS."
Maybe the satellites weren't all working correctly when you did you performance run.
Skeeters are a good fishing platform; I have driven a few and fished in many. I can't say that I have even had a pleasurable fishing/riding experience in a Nitro though.
I think fishfordollars was spot on with his observations. My rig is set up for tourneys, to run 70+ with me, my partner, full livewells,all the fuel I need and all the equipment I may need that day. As I posted earlier I can change out props and be much, much faster but there is a trade off, that is hole shot. Our lakes here are kinda small so it's more of a drag race than a endurance race. That being said I have honestly NEVER beeen passed by ANY make or model boat. You could tell us on here you can do this and you can do that but to prove it on the water is another thing altogether. Your boat could very well be faster than mine but, driving it faster under all conditions is another thing. At blastoff I would love to see an 18 footer cut through the chop and wakes and pass me, I would problably jump off my boat if that happened. I would also like to have an 18 foot 150 challenge me to a top speed duel that would be funny too because I would then just change out props and lighten the load to run near or over 80 mph. I am not trying to stir up contoversy but, unless boats are tested under the same conditions these numbers are just numbers. My tourney partner has the same model boat I have with a 200 EFI, in theory since we are running the same prop he SHOULD be able to outrun me becuase he can spin to 6000 rpm and I hit the limiter at 5750. Well that is a theory that doesn't work real world because I get out of the hole so much faster and have power on tap when he is flat out. I have driven his boat to 72.3 GPS, that is faster than mine with that prop. However that was with very little fuel and nothing more than safety equipment aboard. Put in his gear and other tourney goods and his top end falls to somewhere around 67-68. Those are real world, real deal numbers that have been put to the test over and over many, many times. performance is in how you look at it. I want my boat to perform consistenly and it does, there is really no guessing to how fast I can run because it goes the same speed loaded or empty. There is a guy we talked to at the ramp as he was getting ready to launch his 14 foot tunnel hull with a 75hp who told us he was going over 80mph. Now I would not doubt him but, I would also not be worried about getting outrun be him seeing how he was waiting for the lake to clear out so he could run that little thing without hitting wake or waves. Also I take it this post on *** was an older one, I don't think you would be breaking in a 04 in 08. I am gonna head over ther and see if there is any other Skeeters tha are posting those numbers, or he is the only one running 68mph with a 19' 150 Yammie Skeeter. There should be some consistency.
thetr20one reply :
I took a look and my oh my how inconsistent can you be with numbers. There are guys running 150s and 175s that are outrunning guys with 200s and 225s. You can do the math and see that some of the post are BS, even with zero prop slip some of those numbers are odd. I only found a couple of 150-175s going over 64mph. Those guys must have made their performance runs when ALL the satellites were working. Obviously!
Wayne P. reply :
Good points thetr20one, the last time is was in a tournament, I had two kids with me, one was around 250 pounds and the other was around my weight of 170 pounds. I usually don't run full throttle when I have youngsters with me, but they wanted to fish as long a possible in the area we were in. I had to WOT to make it in on time for the weighin and with those guys, a full livewell, 3/4 gas tank that holds 38 gallons, and all our tackle, I could only manage 60-61 mph. The speed I stated before was with a full gas tank, my normal lots of tackle, required safety equipment, three size 27 batteries, an emergency tool box, spare prop. and of course bow mounted trolling motor. My boat is not set up for any particular function, it just goes when I press the hot foot and trim up all the way. It goes the fastest when I am alone and slower as I add people/weight. With the price of gas now, most of the time I run it around 4,000 rpm at 50 mph.
That copy was just the highest mph I saw for Skeeters with 150 HP, but depending on props stated in others (not knowing what model boat is what) speeds over 60 mph were very common. It looked like lower pitch prop set ups were the ones limited to under 60MPH.
I run a 24" Raker and I see several guys with longer boats and 200-225 HP motors running 24" props. It is all about weight, and wetted hull that affects speed. I don't have much wetted hull at WOT. Do I get chine walk-HELL YES- I have to do more than ride, I have to drive.
thetr20one reply :
My boat chines like crazy if you let it. Over the years I drive and don't even notice it anymore. I can raise my jackplate and eliminate it but I lose some top end, besides the chine keeps me alert. My hull seems to be 85% or more out of the water at WOT and is very responsive to input. Water pressure is not an issue because of the snorkle water intake on the front of my gearcase and it never drops below 15#. It is a very fun boat to drive and hate the day I must trade it in. We kinda hijacked this thread but I hope we have shed light on some things. I am just saying other than boat choice there is a trade off for everything boatingwise. Although I could never reccomend a Nitro. As I have stated in another thread I was at a boat show I walked across a Nitro deck and the compartments flexed and gave me a uneven feeling I could only imagine what they are like on the water. That is one of the boats I have never ridden in and don't care to really. Sorry Nitro guys feel free to knock Triton.
Wayne P. reply :
thetr20one, isn't the chine walk deal why Triton makes the exective version? For those that can't handle the high performance hulls?
thetr20one reply :
I have ridden in an X and the are very stable but, somewhat slower than the orginal TR platform. I have talked to a guy who went from a TR-20 to a TR-20X both with 225 OPTIs and he said he gave up 8 mph. The first time I tried to push my boat at about 66 mph the chine got so bad I about s--t myself. Then I found out what was happening. The only things that cured the chine was seat time and adjusting my jackplate height. My brother in law has the same year (2001) TR-20 with a RUDE RAM 225 and he goes about 72.7 gps with a fixed jackplate. I imagine he could easily go 75+ with a hydro plate but, he has his set for minimal chine with a respectable top end. Driving his boat has a completely different feel than driving mine for some reason and the only difference in hulls is his has a dual console. I really wish that Triton would release at least a limited edition new TR series but I don't think that will happen. I fish Erie alot and have never really been worried about big water, with one exception when I took a 8 footer from the side and pretty much swamped the boat. She stayed floating and running getting us back to the launch but, it was a long ride. The lake went from 3-5s to 6-8s in a hurry and caught us out in the lake. That was a good lesson on big water and high waves.
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