115 vs 150 hp 2024
NHBull reply :
Folks,
I am getting ready to sign for an '18 lund impact 1875ss. The one in stock has everything I need but has the 115 HP. My question is for those that might have this boat, is it it enough. The difference in price between the 115 and 150 buys nice electronics and trolling motor, ect. If the 150 is a must have, I could make it work.
I realize Noone has ever complained about having to much power.
Thanks,Al
BrianinMD reply :
Max out the engine unless on restricted places.
slonezp reply :
I think it's about a $4k difference in motors. I'm confident that if Lund offers the 115 then it is enough motor to perform well. You'll probably get around a 8-10mph increase in speed with the 150. If you plan on fishing rough water, max it out. Whichever motor you choose, get the prop Lund recommends. It is rare that I see anyone looking to re-prop a Lund/Mercury combo because of performance issues.
MickD reply :
In general, even with Lund, the base engine is the minimum they recommend, but they are working against other builders' price points. Most of the time more HP is better. For example, my Lund 1650 comes priced with a 50, but I opted for the 60 and am very glad I did. It seems perfect for the boat. My old boat came with a 40, I got the 50, and it was very good.
The down side to more HP is if the engine is of a higher displacement series and weighs more. Which may be too much weight on the transom to balance well, especially on the "hole shot."
My son's Crestliner 17.5 has a 115 and is fine. But you're looking at a bigger boat. If 150 is the next size up, I'd go for it.
Further North reply :
Of the three Impacts I have been in, two had 150s, one had the 115.
I'd get the 150. The 115 worked...but the 150 worked better. Up on plane better, ran at reasonable speeds (call it round 30 MPH) at a noticeably lower RPM...seemed less..."stressed" for lack of a better word.
Further North reply :
I forgot to add something: My '05 CMV has a Johnzuki 140 4S...the boat is rated for a 150...but that's how mine was set up by the guy who bought it new...and virtually never used it.
If I'd had a choice between identical boats like mine and one had a 150 and the other my 140 and the price was the same...I'd take the 150...but that's not gonna happen...and it works just fine with the 140. I can't quite go 50...I'll get over it, and giggle all the way to the bank...
Joseph B. reply :
Go for the max HP and never look back.
DINK WHISPERER reply :
Max it out! You'll always want more hp....
Bulletman20XD reply :
As with any boat, the max HP rating will give you better fuel economy due to weight to HP ratio. You also never know when your gonna be loaded down with folks and the higher HP will be needed.
WRB reply :
This is a aluminum hull the weight a little over 1,200 lbs, 18'5" with 90" beam.
The question is; how many people, batteries, full live well do you normally have?
This is a walk around hull design with wind shields and swivel passenger chairs built for comfortable dry ride, it's a run about not all out speed.
The 115 HP Optimax is a 3 cyclinder engine with enough power to plane this boat with a normal passenger load of 3 to 4 people around 30 mph. 150 hp is a V6 engine with lot more torque, faster hole shot and about 40 mph comfortable ride.
Only you can make this decision. If you want speed go with 150 hp and a different boat.
Tom
gimruis reply :
On 9/26/2017 at 8:46 AM, Joseph B. said:Go for the max HP and never look back.
I second this
Troy85 reply :
On 9/27/2017 at 9:31 AM, gimruis said:I second this
I third this.
WRB reply :
Maybe all you guys that are promoting the 150 hp can pool the $4,000 price difference and send to the OP if it that important to you!
I would agree if this was a bass boat, but it isn't it's a run about family boat.
Tom
Further North reply :
Even though I think the Impacts I have been in with the 150s were "better" than the one with the 115...and that's what I'd get were money not a factor...I tend to agree with WRB on his last point. But money is a factor...it's not infinite...and I, personally, am loathe to give any to the bank that I don't have a good reason for...and NHBull's original point about using the four grand for electronics sounds like a decent choice.
If the 115 will push the boat around at 30+ and that's OK with NHBull...that'll work just fine. Lots of us who fish smaller lakes don't need to 60 MPH to go from spot to spot 1/4 mile down the lake.
For the folks who argue about resale value*...take the four grand you don't have to borrow and give it to someone who is good with money. Let's say you keep the boat five years. Your $4K will be worth somewhere in the $6K - $7K range unless your guy is really bad...or really good.
There is no way the difference in resale value 5 years down the road is $6K - $7K more with the 150...not a chance.
My CMV with the 140 works just fine not maxed out. I have a friend with a G3 V-Hull with a 115...his works just fine too, as does Impact I've fished from with the 115. Not gonna set any speed records, and it takes a little while longer to get on plane...but I buy boats to fish out of and there's a lot more to fishing than going fast.
...and yes, were I going to buy an new Impact, I'd get the 150...but my electronics are already paid for, so they are not a factor...I still fish with the guy running a 115 on his...we still catch a lot of fish...
Hope that helps a little...
*Yeah, I know it hasn't come up yet...but I can see it just over the horizon...
slonezp reply :
On 9/28/2017 at 8:49 AM, Further North said:
For the folks who argue about resale value*...take the four grand you don't have to borrow and give it to someone who is good with money. Let's say you keep the boat five years. Your $4K will be worth somewhere in the $6K - $7K range unless your guy is really bad...or really good.
There is no way the difference in resale value 5 years down the road is $6K - $7K more with the 150...not a chance.
For those folks who buy a boat for resale value...well that's just stupid. A boat is not an investment. Also, a Lund will hold it's value no matter what motor is hanging off the back.
Further North reply :
On 9/28/2017 at 9:25 AM, slonezp said:For those folks who buy a boat for resale value...well that's just stupid. A boat is not an investment. Also, a Lund will hold it's value no matter what motor is hanging off the back.
I was gonna say that...but it seems to make some people crabby when I do that. 
I buy my boats with OPM, to fish out of. I don't worry about resale value...
S Hovanec reply :
$4000 will buy nice electronics and a TM, but electronics break or get outdated pretty fast. The motor will be with the boat as long as you have it. Put the money in the motor. I'd never consider a boat that's not as near to maxed out as I could get it, unless it's for limited lakes. My boat is rated for 140. Not many choices in that size, so I hung a 135 on it. It should be rated for 150+, but that could be a thread all its own!
Further North reply :
On 9/28/2017 at 10:48 AM, S Hovanec said:$4000 will buy nice electronics and a TM, but electronics break or get outdated pretty fast.
but...there's no need to replace those electronics as soon as the new stuff comes out.
Your $4K still sits with your money guy for at least 4 years (about where I update) and you'll till have way more than the difference tucked in your pocket...
If your electronics suit how you fish, there's not even really any reason to update them until they break. There's a lot of folks still running 10, 12, 15 year old boats with the electronics the dealer hung on them when they were new...I know that for a fact, I stripped a lot of them off and sold them on Craigslist so I could put my newer stuff on boats I've bought...
My neighbor has an exceptionally nice 21 foot Crestliner with a 225 Verado on it (he's a Walleye guy). It was new in 2005. He had it outfitted with the best electronics money could buy when it was new, and with the exception of a new trolling motor, it's got everything it came with. He still catches a ton of fish.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I've never heard anyone wish their boat had a smaller motor on it.
TOXIC reply :
Sometimes it's not about the $$ although there's one thing I will guarantee.....Boats with the max hp motor will sell faster than those with minimum hp. That's just a fact. So, if you plan on selling in the future, you might want to take that into consideration. As for taking the $$ savings and investing it, estimating it will almost double in 4 years is pretty optimistic. It would require a pretty aggressive investment strategy and it would be my luck that I lose my investment and be stuck with an underpowered boat that I couldn't sell. 
Lures'n'Liberty reply :
Do you want to go fast or do you want $4,000 in your pocket? I think the big question is are you in a big hurry and how much money is it worth to get to your fishing spot 3 minutes faster than the other guy? If you're a pro and you're fishing in $25,000 plus tournaments, definitely spend the money if you have it. If you're a retired old fart with a lot of time on your hands and a fixed income (no offense meant), get the little motor.
Further North reply :
On 9/28/2017 at 6:44 PM, TOXIC said:Sometimes it's not about the $$ although there's one thing I will guarantee.....Boats with the max hp motor will sell faster than those with minimum hp. That's just a fact. So, if you plan on selling in the future, you might want to take that into consideration
Not if you price it right...keep in mind it was $4,000 less to start with...that opens up the market of potential buyers quite a bit...it'll see just fine assuming it's not beat to pieces.
On 9/28/2017 at 6:44 PM, TOXIC said:As for taking the $$ savings and investing it, estimating it will almost double in 4 years is pretty optimistic. It would require a pretty aggressive investment strategy and it would be my luck that I lose my investment and be stuck with an underpowered boat that I couldn't sell.
It's actually less than actual results as I wanted to stay conservative on my estimates...and I am anything but an aggressive investor. I'm squarely in the moderate risk category, have been all my life.
tcbass reply :
On 9/28/2017 at 9:25 AM, slonezp said:For those folks who buy a boat for resale value...well that's just stupid. A boat is not an investment. Also, a Lund will hold it's value no matter what motor is hanging off the back.
Someone once told me that a boat dealer said when people bring boats to trade in he only cares about the motor. He says he could give a dang about the boat. Says the value is in the motor.
Does that sound right?
On 9/28/2017 at 6:44 PM, TOXIC said:Sometimes it's not about the $$ although there's one thing I will guarantee.....Boats with the max hp motor will sell faster than those with minimum hp. That's just a fact. So, if you plan on selling in the future, you might want to take that into consideration. As for taking the $$ savings and investing it, estimating it will almost double in 4 years is pretty optimistic. It would require a pretty aggressive investment strategy and it would be my luck that I lose my investment and be stuck with an underpowered boat that I couldn't sell.
I saw a nice boat, only a few years old and in mint condition and rarely used. Asking price was fair but the motor was underpowered by about 50hp. Because of the didn't buy it.
Maybe if I got the price right it'd be worth swapping engines but I didn't want to go thru the hassle. I wonder how many other potential buyers did the same thing.
MickD reply :
If you're selling an outfit, don't sell it to a dealer. You will get much less from a dealer than from an independent buyer, and to them, it's the outfit, not just the motor. My dealer told me he thought I could get $5k out of my old outfit; I thought I'd start high and go down so asked $6k. My phone rang off the hook with responses to Craig's list. I told everyone not to come expecting me to go down and still had 3 guys interested. The first one took it for $6K.
Regarding this discussion about the motor size, I agree with whoever said that it depends on how fast the owner wants to go and how dear the money is to him. Either answer could be right depending on his priorities. I don't know if I saw it in the discussion, but if he plans on a lot of people in the boat, like a family, that is different than just fishing alone or with one guy.
slonezp reply :
On 9/29/2017 at 2:23 AM, tcbass said:
Someone once told me that a boat dealer said when people bring boats to trade in he only cares about the motor. He says he could give a dang about the boat. Says the value is in the motor.
Does that sound right?
A boat dealer cares about paying the least to get the most out of a trade in. I have sold my last 2 boats on consignment dictating to the dealer what price was my bottom line and negotiated their commission. Might lose a few bucks on the top end but, nowhere near what I would lose if I traded it in. I got more than my bottom line on both boats, sold them both within a month, and didn't have to deal with the whole selling process. Dealers want uninformed uneducated buyers. Remember a boat is not a necessity. People will spend more freely on something they want rather than something they need. Why do you think so many dealers sell "ready to fish" boats with minimal electronics, trolling motors, and smaller outboards? The pricing gets people in the door. After the first season, the buyer decides he wants more trolling motor or better electronics because he saw the commercial on TV and these items will make him a better fisherman. The uneducated buyer is going to bring the boat into the dealer and pay full retail for the new graph or trolling motor and then pay to have the dealer install it. Mo' money Mo' money
Further North reply :
On 9/29/2017 at 5:15 AM, slonezp said:Dealers want uninformed uneducated buyers.
PECo reply :
On 9/29/2017 at 4:16 AM, MickD said:Regarding this discussion about the motor size, I agree with whoever said that it depends on how fast the owner wants to go and how dear the money is to him. Either answer could be right depending on his priorities. I don't know if I saw it in the discussion, but if he plans on a lot of people in the boat, like a family, that is different than just fishing alone or with one guy.
I'm not a speed demon and my state's waters have a 45 mile per hour speed limit, so a motor that could push a boat well over 50 miles per hour would be overkill for me.
I'd bet that a 115 could comfortably push that Lund over 40 miles per hour. If it's a Mercury Pro XS, just make sure that you get the Command Thrust gearcase, so that you could run Mercury's larger props.
S Hovanec reply :
Bigger motors aren't always about speed. Sometimes you need more power to tame some angry water. My boat is no speed demon (43mph) even though it's almost maxed out, but it doesn't get tossed around cause it's underpowered.
You don't have to use all of the throttle all the time, but when you need it, it's there.
WIGuide reply :
Personally I'd go with the 150, especially if you fish with friends or take family out. If you think it'll be fine with the 115 then go ahead, but I'd rather spend the money up front and have a motor that can handle whatever I'm going to put it through and not have to worry about if the boat will plane out if I take BUBBA along with me or not.
Further North reply :
On 10/3/2017 at 5:23 AM, WIGuide said:...and not have to worry about if the boat will plane out if I take BUBBA along with me or not.
You're clearly a Bubba-ist. Off to the re-education camps with you!
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