Char-Broil 12201570-A1 American Gourmet Offset Smoker, Black,Standard review and price compare 2025
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Product overview
| Brand | Char-Broil |
| Model Name | 12201570 |
| Power Source | Charcoal |
| Color | Black |
| Item Weight | 38 Pounds |
| Item Dimensions LxWxH | 17.5 x 46.25 x 44.75 inches |
| Fuel Type | Charcoal |
product features
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- Combination Offset Smoker, BBQ & Charcoal Grill
- 290 square inch cooking surface in main chamber
- 140 sq. in. cooking surface in firebox chamber
- Adjustable height steel fire grate
- Clean-out door for easy ash removal with adjustable built-in damper
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From the manufacturer
Char-Broil Offset BBQ Smoker 430
Since 1948 Char-Broil has been America’s favorite grill brand. Yet somehow, it feels like Char-Broil is still only getting started. Perhaps it’s because we know that making our products better also makes your cookouts better. And as long as that’s true, it’s all the motivation we need to continue innovating and improving what we make.
Char-Broil Offset BBQ Smoker 430
The Offset Smoker from Char-Broil will get you smoking and cooking low and slow. It features a vertical pipe smokestack with adjustable dampers, a temperature gauge and an offset firebox to stoke the fire without losing heat. It also features porcelain-coated cooking grates for easy cleaning. Want to move the your smoker easily? Just use the cool touch handles and wheels.
- Multiple dampers for easy heat and smoke control
- Temperature gauge on lid for monitoring chamber temp
- Porcelain-coated wire cooking grates
- Clean-out door in firebox for easy ash removal
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430 sq in Total Cooking SurfaceMain cooking chamber measures 23.75-inches wide x 11.5-inches deep, for 290 sq. in. of cooking surface- ample space for about 18 burgers. Can also grill in the 140 sq in firebox. | Complete Heat and Smoke ControlMultiple dampers can be opened or closed to adjust airflow, which in turn controls heat and temperature within the cooking chamber. | Integrated Temperature GaugeMain chamber lid-mounted temperature gauge is easy to read and can be used to monitor internal temperatures, then adjust as needed. |
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Simple & Easy Clean UpFirebox features a clean-out door for quick and easy ash removal, without the mess. | Convenience FeaturesThe Char-Broil Offset BBQ Smoker 430 features a side shelf for utensils, sauces and rubs, and cool-touch handles to help protect your hands. | Increased MobilityBBQ Smoker sits on two stationary legs and two large wheels, so it's easy to maneuver around your deck, patio or yard. |
product description
The offset smoker from Char-Broil will get you smoking & cooking low & slow. It features a vertical pipe smokestack with adjustable dampers, a temperature Gauge & an offset firebox to stoke the fire without losing heat. It also features porcelain-coated cooking grates for easy cleaning. Want to move the your smoker easily? Just use the cool touch handles & wheels. Assembled dimensions: 48" W x 44.6" H x 17.5" D. Weighs 41 lbs.
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Questions about Char-Broil 12201570-A1 American Gourmet Offset Smoker, Black,Standard
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can you use it as a grill also
Answer: Absolutely, you can use it as a grill. It works great as a grill! We do more grilling than smoking. Furthermore, it works well as a grill with very few coals.
Answer: Not sure what you mean as a grill also?.?? It is a BBQ grillyou can BBQ, smoke, and if you had a griddle you could griddle pancakes and eggsnon it..
Answer: Yes I use it more as a grill then a smoker.
Answer: Yes you can use it as grill and smoker. It works great on both.
Answer: Yes the grill is the larger part of it and the smoker is the small one off on the side.
Answer: No, but it is a great grill for a smaller family.
Answer: You could, but shouldn't. I tried it once, made a big mess. A smoker needs to be seasoned, you rub down the inside with canola oil and get it hot, and a charcoal fire in the cooking area would make the food taste weird when you smoke again. This is a great smoker for the money, I love it
Answer: yea and that's what I do
Answer: Yes and it works well
Q:
can you tell what the cooking area is
Answer: The grills are 11" x 23" in the main cooking area and 11" x 10" in the firebox.
Answer: It's a couple feet wide by a foot deep. The cooker on the side is a decent size.
Answer: About 14X28
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Can I use wood or is this charcoal only?
Answer: I burn Sugar Maple in mine, the only problem is that is DOES NOT burn long with wood or charcoal before the ash which is very small fills up and blokes air flow to fire. I built a removable ash pan for mine that hold ash from an eight hour burn/cook (pork sholder). I've have fire hot enough to pegged out the thermometer without effecting the paint.
Answer: Yes you can! That is my fuel of choice. However, be prepared to cut andor split it into smaller pieces. It is worth it though. Much better flavor!!!
Answer: both just have to watch the heat paint peels easy at high heat
Q:
How easy is this to clean? Is there an easy way to remove charcoal dust?
Answer: I line mine with aluminum foil and pick up the foil. Sometimes, when it gets bad, I lay it on its side and spray it down with a hose. Either way charcoal removes pretty quickly.
Answer: I found it pretty easy to clean , charcoal dust is problem with charcoal itself, better brands of charcoal seam to have less.
Answer: I leave the charcoal dust in the bag the charcoal comes in, the charcoal ash I clean up with a ash safe vacuum cleaner or if outdoor a leave blower.
Answer: Not easy to clean. It very messy! Wouldn't recommend
Answer: Okay. I see this question all the time when it comes to BBQ grills. Grill racks can be scrubbed with steel bristle brushes. Stick to hot water, steam, and pressure. Don't use chemicals like oven cleaners. If the carbon buildup is such that you don't want it anymore, simply replace the grill rack. That is why replacement parts are sold. As for the charcoal dust, all that you need is a shop vac. Be sure that coals are no longer hot, lit, or smoldering. Suck it all up with your wet/dry vacuum.
Answer: I use a fireplace small shovel and broom set. The small flat shovel gets in there perfect. I then scoop the cold embers into a plastic grocery bag for disposal. Makes cleanup a breeze. I Then disperse into my veggie garden soil for breakdown.
Answer: yes use an air hose with a blower nozzle.
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I was hoping to get some advice on using the offset box as a grill for quick grilling on the weeknights - has anyone had any luck using it that way?
Answer: With over fifty years of of experience with outdoor cooking, from an original Japanese hibachi pot to multi function gas grills, an offset smoker is not designed for quick (or any other kind grilling) Gas is quick. Some offset smokers can also grill, but so can a grate over a fire pit.
Answer: I used the offset box for cooking yesterday. If doing burgers 1 or two at a time. Not a lot off room to flip burgers. I did 6 brats and all went well with tongs. Pulling and putting in grill was a inconvenience because of the tight fit. Overall all went well.
Answer: It depends on what you mean by quick? I am finding that I am cooking my food 45 minutes to an hour quicker. The main chamber is a grill and it's design allows it to heat faster than any charcoal grill that I have used so far of its size.
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does it have a temp gauge?
Answer: Yes it has a chamber temp gauge that tells you how hot the fire is but you still need a meat thermometer to monitor the meat's doneness there are some effective inexpensive ones that offer wireless readings for about twentyfive bucks the temp gauge on the lid will not tell if the meat is done trust me.
Answer: It has a crude, basic thermometer on the lid. It gives a decent reading of internal temperature, but adding a thermometer at grate level helps with smoking temperature
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Can you lower and raise the charcoal/wood height on the main grill?
Answer: No you can not move the fire higher or lower, but you can put wood in the small pit and smoke the BBQ and have a direct heat source in the big pit, but a great pit none the less.
Answer: No. It's the basic tube with the grates in the bottom.
Answer: No.
Answer: no
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Does anybody know the shipping dimensions?
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Why don't you have pictures with the doors open & other angles? I want to see the inside. 1 picture does not help me.
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serial number for the warranty?
Answer: This should be located on the leg. Please give us a call at 1-800-241-7548 and we will be able to assist with registering your offset smoker and help with any warranty needs..
Answer: didn't fill it out yet just open and started to season it
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The description says there is a ash clean out door with, but the photos only show the damper. Is there an ash clean out door and where is it located?
Answer: The ash clean out door is located on the offset firebox. This is shown in the third picture from the top on this site.
Answer: Just the damper. I line the box with aluminum foil and take the ashes out like that
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HOW TO MAKE LID FIT?
Answer: my main lid fit fine the one on the smoke box was a little out of square I sat it on end and twisted it a little then it fit ok but after the heat got to it, it evened out perfect.
Answer: I didn't have any trouble with my lid I set it up by instructions and all parts fit fine
Answer: We had no problems with the lid fitting, if your lid isn't fitting it might be bent and needs to be exchanged
Answer: I had the same problem. I loosened the screws on the hinge a little and it fit.
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Can you make beef jerky
Answer: This offset Smoker should be able to make jerky.
Answer: I can't, but my son makes it. It sure does turn out good!
Answer: Yes but the smoker box is so small that you would have to double cut would just to fit
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What are the grates measurements ?
Answer: This offset smoker has two main cooking grates in the smoker chamber. Each one measures 11.25" x 11.25". Give us a call at 1-866-239-6777 and we'll be happy to provide more information on this smoker.
Answer: I haven't measured it but it is about a square foot, I think.
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what shipping company do you use?
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need to know how many degrees can this bbq handle (the top mostly) was going to convert the hood in to a pizza oven.
Answer: Not sure of the exact degrees it can handle, but it does get really hot to the touch. The metal is relatively thin. It's great for basic bbqing and smoking.
Answer: Thermometer reads up to 500°, I've had the cooking temp close and no issues. Grill is narrow, more for ribs and small bbq meals.
Answer: I don't believe you could control the temperature close enough to use this as a pizza oven. Maybe if you filled the lower half of the cook chamber with small rocks you would have enough bio-mass to stabilize the temperature. I've seen wood fired masonry pizza ovens in Italy (& France) and this is to pizza oven what scissors are to lawn mowers.
Answer: Goes to 600 degrees...it should do well for what you are looking for. Good luck!
Answer: This is a terrible product. It is unsafe at any temperature and I would never recommend it to my worst enemy! The Oklahoma Joe's "highlander" is $299 at Lowe's and a far superior product!!
Answer: It doesn't matter, this thing leaks so bad it hard to get 250F out of it
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This is a Christmas gift, does the delivery box have a picture of the product on the outside?
Answer: It is delivered in its original box.... also the first time we used ours all the paint fell off its not even a year old and looks like we have had it 5
Answer: Yes it does. Hopefully yours will arrive in better shape than the one that I ordered. When I took it back to the UPS store, they were appalled at the condition of the box.
Answer: Mine arrived in a plain cardboard box with the grill box inside. Hope that helps;)
Answer: Yes it does and it works great I love the size of it - I even was able to cook a brisket with it good investment
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is the whole thing a smoker or is just the small box on the left a smoker and the one on the right a grill?
Answer: The small box is the fire box that holds the charcoal and wood to smoke food in the main barrel chamber. There is a grill insert for the small box but I have not found that useful. The main barrel chamber also serves as a grill where you can put charcoal or wood directly under the meat.
Answer: You can cook on either side that's why they give u. Grill racks for both but the way you smoke is to place you food in big box. And heat in small box so that it draws smoke threw the food
Answer: The small part is the firebox. You can grill just in it or just heat with it. The big part is called the cook chamber. In most typical use you would build a fire in the firebox and place your item to be cooked in the cook chamber. Cooking your item with an offset heat source allowing the smoke flavor to be absorbed.
Answer: the whole thing is a smoker just put the wood in the little smoke box and open side vents and chimney vent.
Answer: The small size unit is the smoker the other side is the grill
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Does this have a water pan that you have to keep full? Or how do you keep the meat from drying out?
Answer: I don’t have one, but I learned at my last job with something like this or longer without smoke box. You would put the idea of the smoke/wood/coal box on the left side where the coal goes on a grill or on this. Followed by a pan under the meat with water or the meat in a pan with some water
Answer: sometimes we spray with apple cider vinegar, this keeps the meat moiste
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Is this a natural gas grill?
Answer: No ,its a charcoal grill
Answer: No it ls a smoker or charcoal
Answer: No, charcoal only
Q:
I love smoke northern Pike but cannot get that here in Indiana. Can anyone recommend a good whitefish or a fish that taste like pike?
Answer: I've eaten COLD smoked Norther Pike, but never hot smoked Pike. I have never found any fish that comes close to the taste of Northern Pike except Muskie (muskelunge). Suckers from very cold waters cold smoke very good.
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Can the smoker be used without the grill?
Answer: Mine was a piece of junk I never cooked on so it is an expensive flower pot
Answer: No, there is a hole that links both together.
Q:
Hi please tell me how many days deliver when available?
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does it have a thermometer?
Answer: Yes. But it stopped functioning after two weeks
Q:
How much to have someone set it up for me?
Answer: My gradkids set up mine and they really had no problems.
Answer: It should not take very long to setup this offset smoker. Give us a call at 1-866-239-6777 if you ever have questions during setup and we'll be happy to help.
Answer: I had a friend do it for me. Took several hours, butit is a great charcoal grill and smoker for the money. Suggest you by one already put together.
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Does this smoker add-on work with other brands of grills besides char-broil? i.e. weber.
Answer: No. This Char-Broil American Gourmet Offset Smoker (model # 12201570) will include the full smoker chamber and the offset smoker box. Please give us a call at 1-800-241-7548 for more information.
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I purchased this on April 26th...when will it be in stock? Should I cancel my order?
Answer: Hello Jennifer,
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does it have temp gauge?
Answer: No temp gauge, however, I found this to be ideal for cold smoking salmon after modifying it with a couple of cookie sheets...you can find instructions for this on line, A very good deal for the price for use as a smoker...I have not used it to grill anything.
Answer: Yes there is a permanent temp gauge that is installed on the lid. The
Answer: no it don't
Answer: Yes it does.
Answer: Yes
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i had this item in my cart last night and went to purchase it ans the price was $66 and had gone up to $199 why did this happen, still out of stock
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Can women use it too? I see it's gendered for men...
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Does anybody have any idea when this will be back IN STOCK?
Answer: now
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HI did send to French Polynesia. Thank's.
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I saw this grill earlier today and the price was around $74.00. I looked later to purchase it and it was $111.15. Was it just a special price?
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Can this handle a full sized brisket?
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Answer: I would not recommend this for a full brisket. Difficult to maintain temps. Temps start out high then drop drastically to about 180 degrees. If that's the temp you want to smoke at, it will stay at 180 degrees for about 2-3 hours.
Answer: Hello, yes a full brisket will fit nicely. I have not prepared one on mine yet but know the size from doing one on another smoker with my Son-in-Law some time ago.
Answer: Yes, there is plenty of room for a brisket. If it is not well trimmed of fat you may have to replace the grease cup on the bottom.
Answer: yes it can def. handle it i have cooked several big items like briskets out of the smoker and it always turns out amazing, i have cooked meals to feed 5-6 people easily with just using this smoker alone, def. a great purchase especially for the price you cannot beat that.
Answer: I don't think so is not that wide,and must said, after bab b que a couple time, my will be in my next garage sale
Answer: Yes it can
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what is it made out of.
Answer: Steel not case aluminum
Answer: Steel, Not real heavy, but for $60, it was a great deal
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Can you use the smoke chamber (not the firebox) for grilling?
Answer: Yes you can!i grilled my burgers etc on it already
Answer: You can. It has a small grill grate that fits in there. Maybe big enough for 4-6 hamburgers depending on size or a small chicken or small roast.
Answer: I have used charcoal in the main chamber to cook steaks with no issue. It comes with a grate and a pan to catch ash. Just make sure it does not get to hot or the paint will peel off.
Answer: Yes you can. There is a coal grate included that will fit inside the smoker chamber to lay the coals on.
Q:
How does the smoke box get assembled with just those tiny screws? There are no nuts to hold it together??
Answer: The nuts/threads are welded inside the smoke box already. Assembly of the smoker is time consuming, but quite simple. Mine came with ALL the hardware that was necessary.
Answer: As best we can tell by the manufacture info, correct. I'm sure bolts can replace the screws.
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Is assembly required and if so is it hard to put together
Answer: Yes assembly is required but is not too hard if you follow the manual. Took me the better part of 2 1/2 hours to finish and so far no problems with it.
Answer: Assembly is required. It's not hard at all. Make sure you tighten everything really well and then tighten it some more.
Answer: Assembly is required but it was easy to put together.
Answer: Yes assembly is required. I bought this for my father and he didn't have a problem putting it together other than the missing pieces. But then again, he enjoys putting things together! Hope this helps!!
Answer: Yes u have to assemble n it was alittle difficult
Answer: Yes it does, it wasn't difficult but took about 2 hrs.
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im looking for the smallest working charcoal smoker for 2 people. is this the best one? pit barrel smoker uses way too much charcoal
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Answer: This is a great little smoker. It's the perfect size for the 2 of us. Great price too.
Answer: this is the best purchased so far.there is no other smaller than this and it could fit a whole brisquet 11 lbs. enough for our family of 6.
Answer: Stay clear away from this, just buy you one of the cylinder shaped ones... This is cheaply made and waste of your time. I sent my back after it failed my expectations...
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could you smoke a 12lb turkey on it. or whats the biggest turkey you could do.
Answer: I haven't had it but a month or so but I can tell you I did a 7 lb pork butt and a couple of slabs of country style ribs more than once.
Answer: I smoked a 12.5 pound turkey with excellent results. I can send you a picture if you send me an e-mail at clifford_f@yahoo.com. Cliff
Answer: No, this is a "gourmet" cooker/smoker so Turkeys, burgers, etc would not work.
Answer: I would say for sure for a12 pounder. Not sure about a 20 pounder. It was a gift for my daughter and she is still very much in love with it.
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what is the boxed dimension of this grill?
Answer: Approximately 3 ft long by 1.5 ft high give or take a few inches.
Answer: I guess it was about 3'x2'x2'
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Does this grill come with a firebox to put your wood chips in or do You need to purchase one seperate??
Answer: This smoker has the main smoker chamber and an offset firebox. However, it does not have an internal firebox just for wood chips. Wood chips can be placed directly on the cooking grates.
Answer: As you see, to the left of the grill, there is a fire box. Last year I smoked a chicken. Just put your meat under the chimney. It works well for a small grill, If you smoke a lot of meat, get s bigger grill. All I needed was a small grill. a lot of parts to put together. Good luck.
Answer: The firebox is located on the end...the smaller enclosure
Answer: Yes, it’s come with one
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Can I start the fire in the bottom of the fire box without the grate?
Answer: If you're talking about the fire grate, I'd say you can...but I wouldnt advise it. The grate allows air flow underneath so the fire won't smother itself out. If you're talking about the cooking grate then yes you can. It's really small so I had trouble even finding room to put it in there when I had it full of wood and charcoal for a pork butt anyway.
Answer: Yes you can
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how long do they last
Answer: Well that is up to the person who uses it .as long as you get the cover for it or have it in the garage after you use it and empty it after it cools down it should last a year or more
Answer: Should last a long time, all depends on how well one maintains and cares for it.
Answer: I'd give mine an easy ten years and that is even in Alabama
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What's the thickness on the metal?
Answer: I would guess about 1/16 Not really thick but its been good . I put a baffle on the hole from the firebox and made a removable smoke plate to even out temperatures.
Answer: Its not the thickest ive seen on a grill. But its not to shabby/cheap either.
Answer: Not very thick. Maybe 1/8 inch
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how many days Temporarily out of stock?
Answer: Thank you for your interest in the Char-Broil Offset Smoker 300 Series. We have it in stock, and it can be prepared for shipment by May 10th.
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What are the dimensions of the firebox?
Answer: The firebox measures 11.77"L x 11.73"W and the smoker chamber measures 23.98"L x 12.32"W.
Answer: It’s 16 inches in diameter and 18 inches long
Answer: Measurement answers are way different... Users: which is more accurate?
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What series is the deluxe?
Answer: Smoker only ribs , brisket , roast etc not a burger and brat grille
Answer: The worst
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is the big part the grill or the smoker?
Answer: The big part is the grill. Although I don't think it's intended for grilling, I have grilled a hot dog and burger on the smoker side for the impatient kids.
Answer: The large part is the smoker & grill. The small part is the smoke box where you add the coals and wood chips for smoking. To grill you add your hot coals to the bottom of the large box.
Answer: The big part is where you will put the food you want to smoke. The charcoal and or wood will go in the small section. The heat and smoke flow around your food for indirect cooking. Low and slow is the motto for smoking food.
Answer: It's both... You can put coals/wood in the large side and grill your food directly over the coals, you can put coals/wood in the small side and cook/smoke your food indirectly by placing in in the larger side or you can do a combination. Keep in mind that this is a VERY INEXPENSIVE smoker and it's far from top quality and a good amount of heat/smoke are lost because of this, so indirect smoking (coals/wood in the small side, food in the large side) will be slow and require a lot of coal tending to keep temps up, but all-in-all it does a pretty good job for the price.
Answer: The grill.
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there's no pictures for the inside. is there a double rack?
Answer: There is a double rack inside and there is a rack for the smoker as well this is a great smoker I love it and I am being honest I use it more than 3 times or more a week
Answer: Hubby said NO.... It's a single rack w/ 2 grates..... one for the charcoal and then one for the food
Answer: no, just a single rack one on each side
Answer: No just a single rack. Only enough room for two racks of short ribs. I would suggest you get the next size larger at the very least. It's a great starter smoker to learn on but I"m already considering getting a larger one now that I know what I'm doing. Takes some practice.
Answer: No. It's a single rack of 2 grates. the smoker has a rack as well
Product reviews of Char-Broil 12201570-A1 American Gourmet Offset Smoker, Black,Standard
From A to Z : Unable to control temperature.
I like the size. I like the handles.
I do not like the uneven spread of the temperature. The discrepancy is about 15 degrees from one side to the other side of the smoker. You can use a hole bag of coal and the meat won't be cooked evenly. There is no tray for the ashes so either you remove the top coals so you can shovel the ashes or turn off the fire clean up and start a new fire. Half chicken took 4 hours and then I have to put it in the oven to finish cooking.
I do not like the uneven spread of the temperature. The discrepancy is about 15 degrees from one side to the other side of the smoker. You can use a hole bag of coal and the meat won't be cooked evenly. There is no tray for the ashes so either you remove the top coals so you can shovel the ashes or turn off the fire clean up and start a new fire. Half chicken took 4 hours and then I have to put it in the oven to finish cooking.
Mike M. : Great for Beginner
First of all I have to say I am a beginner to smoking. I have a couple of friends who showed me how to go about it and decided to purchase this one. For the money it really can't be beat. It does what it is supposed to do. It was easy to put together, took about 30-45 minutes. I did do a Pork shoulder on it. My only issue is that I do need to get some high heat gasket seal....$15 investment. It worked without it but it will help keep the temperature up and make it easier to control. The final product turned out great. I can't wait to do the next one. For the money I thought if i hated it I could always make this into a flower pot. Down the road that may happen but only because I got a bigger smoker. If you are thinking about getting one do not hesitate to get this one. You will be happy with your choice.
R. Corbett : better than expected
I don't use this as a smoker grill just steaks and bratwurst so far the grill uses much less charcoal than my old aussie grill. I get enough cooking area using just the left side is enough for two adults and one child. I think I could entertain 4 additional guests by using both grill surfaces, Easier to control air flow and heat which has improved result over past grills.
Evan Thompson : Better than not having a smoker lol...
Background:
*Writing this review after one use.
*Assembled in 3 hours.
*Seasoned day of first use.
Pros:
*Will give you delicious smoked food.
Cons:
*Did not come with the porcelain water tray as described.
*Did not come with the chip box as described. (Though I don't know why you'd need one)
*Followed directions to initially put it together. Resulted in uneven/teetering legs. After trying several times to make adjustments, I had to take it apart, drill new holes in the legs, and add larger washers to get it to sit right.
*Had to bend some of the metal on the brim of the cooking chamber to let the lid to sit flush.
*A lot of paint on the fire box and bottom side of the smoking chamber burnt off immediately during the first burn.
*Did not come with the silver bottom grate/shelf that is displayed at the bottom of the legs.
*Gaps everywhere. This thing is nowhere close to being able to seal. Inside seams where you'd expect to see a weld bead/root weld were instead just tacked.
*I Had to bend and contort the two pieces of the fire box to get them to come together - The holes didn't line up at all.
*I have to add some additional spacers to the bottom of the legs on the fire box side to pitch the unit so that the drippings/grease can flow down to the drain port. (The drilling of new holes mentioned earlier made the fire box legs longer - meaning this issue was even more dramatic before my initial fix of the teetering issue).
I could complain about more, but you get the picture. I'm annoyed about not getting what was described in the Amazon description and the relative poor quality of the metal/manufacturing/paint.
The quality is less than what I expected. It's kind of flimsy compared to my $100 Weber 22" Kettle grill. I wasn't expecting the world for $80, but I did think I'd get better than this.
I wouldn't buy it again. In my opinion, when you consider the relatively small cooking space (I had maxed out my space with 3 Chicken quarters and a dozen sausages), and poor manufacturing quality - you're better off to seperate with a few more dollars and get something of better quality that offers more cooking space.
Don't get me wrong though, it did the job. Low and slow. Though it took a lot of babysitting to maintain a consistent temp. I would get random temperature flare-ups. It was sometimes difficult to stay under 250 degrees.
So if the option is this smoker or no smoker, than sure. But if possible definetly get a better one.
*Writing this review after one use.
*Assembled in 3 hours.
*Seasoned day of first use.
Pros:
*Will give you delicious smoked food.
Cons:
*Did not come with the porcelain water tray as described.
*Did not come with the chip box as described. (Though I don't know why you'd need one)
*Followed directions to initially put it together. Resulted in uneven/teetering legs. After trying several times to make adjustments, I had to take it apart, drill new holes in the legs, and add larger washers to get it to sit right.
*Had to bend some of the metal on the brim of the cooking chamber to let the lid to sit flush.
*A lot of paint on the fire box and bottom side of the smoking chamber burnt off immediately during the first burn.
*Did not come with the silver bottom grate/shelf that is displayed at the bottom of the legs.
*Gaps everywhere. This thing is nowhere close to being able to seal. Inside seams where you'd expect to see a weld bead/root weld were instead just tacked.
*I Had to bend and contort the two pieces of the fire box to get them to come together - The holes didn't line up at all.
*I have to add some additional spacers to the bottom of the legs on the fire box side to pitch the unit so that the drippings/grease can flow down to the drain port. (The drilling of new holes mentioned earlier made the fire box legs longer - meaning this issue was even more dramatic before my initial fix of the teetering issue).
I could complain about more, but you get the picture. I'm annoyed about not getting what was described in the Amazon description and the relative poor quality of the metal/manufacturing/paint.
The quality is less than what I expected. It's kind of flimsy compared to my $100 Weber 22" Kettle grill. I wasn't expecting the world for $80, but I did think I'd get better than this.
I wouldn't buy it again. In my opinion, when you consider the relatively small cooking space (I had maxed out my space with 3 Chicken quarters and a dozen sausages), and poor manufacturing quality - you're better off to seperate with a few more dollars and get something of better quality that offers more cooking space.
Don't get me wrong though, it did the job. Low and slow. Though it took a lot of babysitting to maintain a consistent temp. I would get random temperature flare-ups. It was sometimes difficult to stay under 250 degrees.
So if the option is this smoker or no smoker, than sure. But if possible definetly get a better one.
As I See It today : Works well if you take car of the unit
It is not a high end smoker. The sheet metal is light and the covers do not seal in the all the smoke. For the cost I am very pleased!!! Been grilling and smoking food for decades with a silo style unit that finally went to the steal scrap yard. Wanted real wood / charcoal and not pellets or electrically driven smoker. This filled the bill for a fair cost. The side firebox gave me better control than the silo type did. Take care not to leave it in the rain or damp since rust will show quickly. My spouse is not fond of smoked pork roast but had to admit that this made the best she ever ate. For the weekend now and again smoker I can recommend this product.
Amanda Grange : Nice smoking grill
I love this grill, you can use the side box for a long n slow smoke or you can use it just like a standard BBQ for steak's, chicken, burgers or dogs. It's versatile, easy to use and clean. The only draw back is the assembly, it's about a hour. Four stars and the best value for the money.
Ben M. : Paint sucks but the meat turned out great!
The paint burned and flaked off on my first smoke. I went through the initial burn steps to cure the paint. I added red hot briquettes to both chambers and kept it going for several hours. Everything seemed fine afterwards. Fast-forward to yesterday and the first smoke and the paint burned off. It happened after I threw in some apple wood chunks. The flames from the wood got it hot enough to burn the paint. Seems like they used the wrong paint or maybe they did it on purpose to save money, doesn't really matter. However, it smoked the meat very well. It is functional.
ACJ : At your own risk!
Looks great. Good instructions.
Poor machining of the metal. When following the instructions exactly, the lid on the smoking portion is canted by approximately an inch (lid won't close unless I put a brick on it!). The chimney on the smoking section sticks up approximately 1/2" above the lid. Overall poor quality control. If this was my only bbq pit, I'd be in real trouble.
Poor machining of the metal. When following the instructions exactly, the lid on the smoking portion is canted by approximately an inch (lid won't close unless I put a brick on it!). The chimney on the smoking section sticks up approximately 1/2" above the lid. Overall poor quality control. If this was my only bbq pit, I'd be in real trouble.
As I See It today : Works well if you take car of the unit
It is not a high end smoker. The sheet metal is light and the covers do not seal in the all the smoke. For the cost I am very pleased!!! Been grilling and smoking food for decades with a silo style unit that finally went to the steal scrap yard. Wanted real wood / charcoal and not pellets or electrically driven smoker. This filled the bill for a fair cost. The side firebox gave me better control than the silo type did. Take care not to leave it in the rain or damp since rust will show quickly. My spouse is not fond of smoked pork roast but had to admit that this made the best she ever ate. For the weekend now and again smoker I can recommend this product.
TekkaTech : A mess in a box
As a Southern guy living in the city I started a trend of smoking meat in our community. Needed a small smoker so I choose this one because of the price.
What I got was a mess in a box, chamber was bent parts were not fully done to spec and welds we're loose. I noticed all this after I built it which wasn't to hard to do. Contacted Char-Broil and they agreed to exchange the messed up parts.. Unfortunately I did not receive said parts before the 4th which is why there are 2 stars instead of 3.
Char doesn't have a bad idea with this small Smoker unfortunately it shoddy Made in China feel craftsmanahip is evident. With work this can be a beast of a tiny smoker. After I modded what I had I no longer want the replacement parts. I sealed every crevice with High temp silicone, drilled extra holes in the bottom for a drainage pan.
I also stripped and repainted with Hugh temp paint because during seasoning the paint bubbled and burned off. I added HVAC aluminum piping to the stack and made a heat spreader of metal so there would be no cold spots. Used high temp foil tape to keep the smoke in around the lid.
What I got was a mess in a box, chamber was bent parts were not fully done to spec and welds we're loose. I noticed all this after I built it which wasn't to hard to do. Contacted Char-Broil and they agreed to exchange the messed up parts.. Unfortunately I did not receive said parts before the 4th which is why there are 2 stars instead of 3.
Char doesn't have a bad idea with this small Smoker unfortunately it shoddy Made in China feel craftsmanahip is evident. With work this can be a beast of a tiny smoker. After I modded what I had I no longer want the replacement parts. I sealed every crevice with High temp silicone, drilled extra holes in the bottom for a drainage pan.
I also stripped and repainted with Hugh temp paint because during seasoning the paint bubbled and burned off. I added HVAC aluminum piping to the stack and made a heat spreader of metal so there would be no cold spots. Used high temp foil tape to keep the smoke in around the lid.
Rob Doe : Its ok, but I would not buy again
It’s very shallow as far as bbq for the distance between the coals and the cooking grill, and there is no adjustment to raise the grill. Also after only a few uses the side vent on the small smoker is stuck wide open,and that part was factory installed. Also when you use the smoker the smoke rolls out of the main lid quite a bit, so the lid is either to lite or there is just poor workmanship. Finally the photos make it look larger than what you get as far as my expectations were.
Kassandra Booth : Okay for a small starter grill
Not bad for a small starter smoker grill. The paint peeled even after we seasoned it with a small fire. It's somewhat hard to regulate the fire and keep the temp to a certain temp. But overall if you are just needing a small, compact bbq grill that is expensive, this isn't bad for the price.
Dee Kay : Easy install, beautiful look!
I assembled it myself with no one to help and it was a breeze. I bought this as a gift for my brother therefore I don’t know how it’ll work during grilling. I will ask him to let me know but if you’re worried about look, sturdy material, and size: look no more! It’s awesome! It’s bigger than I expected and it’s heavy, great material. Would totally recommend this grill. Now let’s see how well it works! ????
Chris : Good for the price
You get what you pay for. For $90 this is a good smoker. Add maybe $25 worth of modifications and you’d have yourself a beast. Thermometer sucks, gonna add a new one. Add on some high temperature silicone to the seams and temperature control should be a top notch.
Smoked chicken wings last night. Fit 40 on the cooking surface no problem. Two racks of ribs or maybe even three whole chickens would be a breeze. Like I said, temp control was a little rough but all in all good grill for the price.
Smoked chicken wings last night. Fit 40 on the cooking surface no problem. Two racks of ribs or maybe even three whole chickens would be a breeze. Like I said, temp control was a little rough but all in all good grill for the price.
Elbeau : Better Than the Price Suggests, but Don't Buy a Chevy and Expect a Bentley.
First, I don't buy a $70 smoker grill and expect to get a $600 Weber. That said, this grill is sturdier than I expected. I've had more expensive grills that were significantly flimsier. The grill is also much tighter than I expected. No, it is nowhere near airtight. But, it is not a smoker; it is a smoker grill. Many reviews suggest the writer doesn't know there is a difference. The side firebox works great to smoke food with indirect heat and the grill holds temperature fairly well. By that, I mean heat loss occurs steadily, but somewhat quickly, as the fuel source burns down. This is a small grill, which, depending on your needs, is a plus or minus. It is great for 1 - 4 people. It just fit 2 racks of uncooked pork ribs, or 8 large hamburgers. The one big negative is the thermometer. While I have never had a grill which had an accurate built-in thermometer - including Webers - this one is almost useless. After 6 hours of smoking, keeping track of the temperature by the grill's thermometer, the ribs were still mostly uncooked. I tested the thermometer by hanging a remote control grilling thermometer's probe down the chimney so that it was suspended in the cooking chamber. I know this thermometer to be accurate and it recorded temperatures as much as 100 degrees below the temperature shown on the grill's thermometer. Despite its temperature probe, I suspect the grill's thermometer is picking up a lot of heat from the lid itself. So, to sum it up, it's no gold standard grill, but it is better than the price would suggest. It's small, it smokes great, but DON'T rely on its thermometer!
Brittany : LONG TO COOK
I love to grill and my recent grill had started to get worn out so I purchased this one. It took 3 hours to cook hamburgers!! It has never taken that long to cook hamburgers! and even when my daughter bit into her hamburger it wasn't done all the way in the middle! So technically it would have taken longer than 3 hours! It didn't hold up to the temperature to even cook a meal correctly! Not worth $100. The last grill I bought that got worn out I bought from Walmart and it was $100 and lasted me at least 2 years. I should have just gotten another one of those instead of trying something new that i thought would work.
RJP913 : Rusting
It smokes well but is rusting out. We have used it twice and have only had it a month. We followed the instructions for seasoning it as well.
sue grifin : Well worth the modest price!!
Easy to put together in a couple hours by myself - no missing parts. Tempered the smoker then began smoking - works great with patience and practice - use wisely and you'll be pleased.
It's not a professional model - if you want a greater surface area and thicker steel, break out your wallet but for occasional smoking, this is great. Smoked salmon is delish!!
It's not a professional model - if you want a greater surface area and thicker steel, break out your wallet but for occasional smoking, this is great. Smoked salmon is delish!!
Bacchus808 : The thermometer read 250 degrees pretty much the whole time as I did my best ...
I had high hopes for this smoker but I just can't seem to get the knack of it. After receiving it, I tried smoking a rack of ribs. I looked up tutorials on how to use an offset smoker and made sure I read the instructions that came with the smoker. The thermometer read 250 degrees pretty much the whole time as I did my best to maintain the heat but after 6hrs the ribs were still raw and not even to temp. I ended up taking it inside and finishing them off in the oven. I thought that maybe I was losing heat because I didn't have a tight seal so I bought some high temp sealant and insulation tape and went over the problem spots. Again, I tried to smoke about 30 chicken wings and even meticulously managing the fire per the thermometer the wings weren't fully cooked even after 4hrs. If anyone has tips please pass them along because I'm thinking of just buying an electric smoker. The only thing I was able to successfully smoke was some mackerel but it took almost 12hrs. It works well as a grill but I didn't but it for that purpose.
Krystal B : Put the work in
Honestly, I didn’t know what to expect. If and only if you plan on assembling correctly, and I mean, using high heat silicone on EVERY connecting part, and using a bbq gasket on ALL opening doors you have a heck of a smoker at almost no cost. If you don’t take the time and small Investment in doing it right, don’t waste your money.
Perfect, of course not but I’ve done ribs, roasts, chicken, You name it, from 215 degrees all the way to a stable 350 degrees. If you know how to manage a fire this is a killer little grill for the price. The temp spikes fast and cools down faster, so don’t expect a set it and forget it grill, but a great way to learn fire management and how to smoke on a offset without investing to much.
Perfect, of course not but I’ve done ribs, roasts, chicken, You name it, from 215 degrees all the way to a stable 350 degrees. If you know how to manage a fire this is a killer little grill for the price. The temp spikes fast and cools down faster, so don’t expect a set it and forget it grill, but a great way to learn fire management and how to smoke on a offset without investing to much.
DAWN GREENFIELD : there's no how to book included, for anything, especially if your a first time "smoker" and "griller"
This was a Christmas present for my son, I had this early. put this into my garage, when Christmas came around he could not think what was in the box. When he had opened the box, he was ever so excited.!! that very day his father and him had put the grill together and by the week-end he had used his new grill.!! It's the best present my husband and i gave him.Now he smokes, and grills every week-end, oh yeah, no body can touch " his grill." !!! Thank-You so much for making my Christmas happier, by making my son's Christmas a very special one.!!
Average Joe : The lids don't seal properly like a real smoker but they don't let too much ...
It was a cheap smoker/grill combo and I really wanted this for my birthday. I order while it was out of stock and Amazon got it to me 3 days later in Hawaii! The shipping probably cost near as much as the grill! It is cheaply made metal and will rust faster than a Weber or other high end model. The lids don't seal properly like a real smoker but they don't let too much out at the same time either. We have used it as a grill and smoker and for the price ~$58 I cannot complain. Worst part of it all is there is not a lot to do with the leftover ashes so I scoop them out with a cup.
RJP913 : Rusting
It smokes well but is rusting out. We have used it twice and have only had it a month. We followed the instructions for seasoning it as well.
Radu sr. : Great for smoking meats and chease
It took some time to assemble, but the instructions are very helpful.
It works great for smoking, but I haven't use it as grill yet.
It works great for smoking, but I haven't use it as grill yet.
Kristopher Gilbert : Great Starter Grill
Great starter grill, after 3 months of use the grill box is a bit off center and needs some adjustment. Other than that, no rust or wear of any kind cosmetically. The handles require some tightening now and then just to prevent any accidents while relocating the grill. My only real complaint is it will only hold up to 1 medium bag of charcoal, after I am done grilling for a family of 5 the charcoal loses heat and barely cooks anything without adding more and a re-fire. To expedite grilling I cook the meat 75% in the oven, then finish off on the grill to give it that sear. My next grill will be twice as big to handle the amount of food needed.
Average Joe : The lids don't seal properly like a real smoker but they don't let too much ...
It was a cheap smoker/grill combo and I really wanted this for my birthday. I order while it was out of stock and Amazon got it to me 3 days later in Hawaii! The shipping probably cost near as much as the grill! It is cheaply made metal and will rust faster than a Weber or other high end model. The lids don't seal properly like a real smoker but they don't let too much out at the same time either. We have used it as a grill and smoker and for the price ~$58 I cannot complain. Worst part of it all is there is not a lot to do with the leftover ashes so I scoop them out with a cup.
Danny Petrea : Small grill with small fire save money on charcoal and wood chuck.
Put your fire always in the fire box and you can control your temp easily. I love having a small grill so it don't take a large fire .
Cost saver .
Cost saver .
Bobby & Yvonne : Awesome smoker/BBQ and perfect size for home use.
My husband is a chef, and he absolutely loves this barbeque/smoker. He said that the smoker box is large enough to actually use pieces of wood instead of having to buy chips for it. Since we have some hickory branches, he has been using those when he smokes meats.
The BBQ is large enough to smoke a small turkey, or a ham, pork butt, or a nice bunch of ribs. The heat can be regulated in the smoking box so that you can cook at about any temperature that you want.
We got this smoker from Amazon and paid about half the price it was selling for in the stores; so we are also happy with the price savings.
Edit to add: We have had this BBQ smoker for over two years now, still using it all summer, and it is still working fine. This thing does such a wonderful job of smoking , and yet is also perfect when we just want a quick BBQ grill.
The BBQ is large enough to smoke a small turkey, or a ham, pork butt, or a nice bunch of ribs. The heat can be regulated in the smoking box so that you can cook at about any temperature that you want.
We got this smoker from Amazon and paid about half the price it was selling for in the stores; so we are also happy with the price savings.
Edit to add: We have had this BBQ smoker for over two years now, still using it all summer, and it is still working fine. This thing does such a wonderful job of smoking , and yet is also perfect when we just want a quick BBQ grill.
Antoinette : Small and compact while completely usable.
I love this little itty bitty baby bar-b-que with smoking box! Do not be mistaken, it is small. What do you expect for $60 some odd dollars? It went together much easier than one I paid a lot more for a few years ago. I will probably be able to smoke a whole brisket, a few racks of ribs or a couple of chickens. Controlling the temperature will be a bit tricky with its size. We have used it twice in so many days and are very happy!
Tony Mason : Very inexpensive, but a pretty good smoker.
I needed a small offset smoker that wouldn't take up too much room. I found this one to be very inexpensive and just the right size. Very good quality at this price point. Smoked a couple of chickens to test it out and everyone was very pleased with the result. Pretty easy to control the temperature and the smoke. Easy to load extra charcoal and wood chips. Very happy with this purchase.
Willy : Soldering/paint coming off issues
The product came damaged as the soldering was poor at the base of the smoker. Of course we didn’t realize this till we put it all together. However the customer service at Char-broil was quick to replace it. Unfortunately the replacement was only slightly better . It was cheap but will easily throw away when it rusts. I’ve spent a few hundred on smokers and they rust just the same in this Texas humidity.
Update, the part where you put the wood after one use, the paint came off. They sent me another one. I lowered the review to 2 stars as I would have just wanted my money back.
Update, the part where you put the wood after one use, the paint came off. They sent me another one. I lowered the review to 2 stars as I would have just wanted my money back.
Rob Doe : Its ok, but I would not buy again
It’s very shallow as far as bbq for the distance between the coals and the cooking grill, and there is no adjustment to raise the grill. Also after only a few uses the side vent on the small smoker is stuck wide open,and that part was factory installed. Also when you use the smoker the smoke rolls out of the main lid quite a bit, so the lid is either to lite or there is just poor workmanship. Finally the photos make it look larger than what you get as far as my expectations were.
Chin W. Ko : Assembly was easy. Works but feel flimsy
Assembly was easy. Works but feel flimsy. Very small, not enough cooking area. The black paint came off first time I used it. The side fire box window would not hold open position. I have to jam the window open with a tong.Temperature gauge stuck at 400 after first time smoking. Replaced temperature gauge with a new Amazon gauge. Two stars for small and flimsy.
Dylan Eisenbarth : Reviews were correct
All the reviews were correct. I read as many as I could before my purchase. A ton said you would need high heat silicon to fill gaps that the manufacturer didn't seal and high heat spray paint for when your paint peels off. They were 100% correct. First night I got it I built it and ran through a 2 hour fire after rubbing down the inside and grill grates with grape seed oil to season it. After this 1st fire I had paint peeling off the firebox on both the top and bottom where either the coals landed or the fire kissed the roof as well as the door to the vent. After my 1st smoke, approx 4 hours, I had more of the paint peel in all 3 places. I bought 600° silicon and 2000° spray paint. After using both it's a magnificent starter smoker. I'm having so much fun learning a new craft on this and the food comes out amazing. Holds heat well if it's warm out, not great if it's cold out. End up smoking in the garage if it's cold. I also bought a 6 in. desk fan to blow air into the vent. Really helps control the temp properly. Decent quality metal and easy to build. I'd give it a 3.5/5
Tony Mason : Very inexpensive, but a pretty good smoker.
I needed a small offset smoker that wouldn't take up too much room. I found this one to be very inexpensive and just the right size. Very good quality at this price point. Smoked a couple of chickens to test it out and everyone was very pleased with the result. Pretty easy to control the temperature and the smoke. Easy to load extra charcoal and wood chips. Very happy with this purchase.
bobby : Cheaply made
This is definitely a get what you pay for, or less. When assembling it, parts were bent and the material it's made of is very thin and easily bent. I would return, but I don't want to take it back apart. DON'T RECOMMEND BUYING THIS SMOKER! VERY DISAPPOINTED!!!
Chris : Good for the price
You get what you pay for. For $90 this is a good smoker. Add maybe $25 worth of modifications and you’d have yourself a beast. Thermometer sucks, gonna add a new one. Add on some high temperature silicone to the seams and temperature control should be a top notch.
Smoked chicken wings last night. Fit 40 on the cooking surface no problem. Two racks of ribs or maybe even three whole chickens would be a breeze. Like I said, temp control was a little rough but all in all good grill for the price.
Smoked chicken wings last night. Fit 40 on the cooking surface no problem. Two racks of ribs or maybe even three whole chickens would be a breeze. Like I said, temp control was a little rough but all in all good grill for the price.
CHARLES WASHINGTON : Best 75 bucks i ever spent
Best 75 bucks i ever spent. Had a much larger pit i stopped using 13 years ago because too much work.
Ive done 4 slabs a few times. Sometimes finish in oven about 45 mins(325) with a couple teaspoons of water to steam and moisten depending on temp maintained. Pour off renderings and water. Sauce and about 20 more minutes in oven . Yummy yum yum. Also switched to electric starter in the firebox vs messy dangerous chimneys.
LOVE IT. would buy again over and over.
Ive done 4 slabs a few times. Sometimes finish in oven about 45 mins(325) with a couple teaspoons of water to steam and moisten depending on temp maintained. Pour off renderings and water. Sauce and about 20 more minutes in oven . Yummy yum yum. Also switched to electric starter in the firebox vs messy dangerous chimneys.
LOVE IT. would buy again over and over.
Chris : Good for the price
You get what you pay for. For $90 this is a good smoker. Add maybe $25 worth of modifications and you’d have yourself a beast. Thermometer sucks, gonna add a new one. Add on some high temperature silicone to the seams and temperature control should be a top notch.
Smoked chicken wings last night. Fit 40 on the cooking surface no problem. Two racks of ribs or maybe even three whole chickens would be a breeze. Like I said, temp control was a little rough but all in all good grill for the price.
Smoked chicken wings last night. Fit 40 on the cooking surface no problem. Two racks of ribs or maybe even three whole chickens would be a breeze. Like I said, temp control was a little rough but all in all good grill for the price.
Dylan Eisenbarth : Reviews were correct
All the reviews were correct. I read as many as I could before my purchase. A ton said you would need high heat silicon to fill gaps that the manufacturer didn't seal and high heat spray paint for when your paint peels off. They were 100% correct. First night I got it I built it and ran through a 2 hour fire after rubbing down the inside and grill grates with grape seed oil to season it. After this 1st fire I had paint peeling off the firebox on both the top and bottom where either the coals landed or the fire kissed the roof as well as the door to the vent. After my 1st smoke, approx 4 hours, I had more of the paint peel in all 3 places. I bought 600° silicon and 2000° spray paint. After using both it's a magnificent starter smoker. I'm having so much fun learning a new craft on this and the food comes out amazing. Holds heat well if it's warm out, not great if it's cold out. End up smoking in the garage if it's cold. I also bought a 6 in. desk fan to blow air into the vent. Really helps control the temp properly. Decent quality metal and easy to build. I'd give it a 3.5/5
As I See It today : Works well if you take car of the unit
It is not a high end smoker. The sheet metal is light and the covers do not seal in the all the smoke. For the cost I am very pleased!!! Been grilling and smoking food for decades with a silo style unit that finally went to the steal scrap yard. Wanted real wood / charcoal and not pellets or electrically driven smoker. This filled the bill for a fair cost. The side firebox gave me better control than the silo type did. Take care not to leave it in the rain or damp since rust will show quickly. My spouse is not fond of smoked pork roast but had to admit that this made the best she ever ate. For the weekend now and again smoker I can recommend this product.
Kristopher Gilbert : Great Starter Grill
Great starter grill, after 3 months of use the grill box is a bit off center and needs some adjustment. Other than that, no rust or wear of any kind cosmetically. The handles require some tightening now and then just to prevent any accidents while relocating the grill. My only real complaint is it will only hold up to 1 medium bag of charcoal, after I am done grilling for a family of 5 the charcoal loses heat and barely cooks anything without adding more and a re-fire. To expedite grilling I cook the meat 75% in the oven, then finish off on the grill to give it that sear. My next grill will be twice as big to handle the amount of food needed.
Hev : Be prepared for the worst...
I guess you get what you pay for. I was really dissatisfied with this product. Bought it as a birthday present for my fiancé, and wish I had chosen something else. For starters, putting it together was a headache. It took two of us to do it (not really the issue) but the package was ripped open and all the pieces were scattered around the box, so we had to figure out what was what before we could even start. Once completed, we were less than impressed. The welds were flimsy, it wobbled badly (we tightened like crazy, and even took it apart twice and reassembled it to make sure it wasn't our fault), and the lid didn't fully close (again, went through the steps to be sure it wasn't us). Temp gauge didn't work at all, so luckily my fiance knows how to do it himself. During the first temp, two of the welds busted, and less than a month later during a smoke, two more broke. We've had to put fire bricks under the grate to hold it up. Three bolts went missing during the third use of it. Just all-around a badly designed product. I may have done better buying something off of Wish.
Windy Gutierrez : Teeny tiny
Sooooo...I decided on this grill because I was comparing the cooking surfaces of it and other grills and cooking surface was largest.....I didn’t look at the overall dimensions.
It’s comically small. Like looks like it belongs in a kid’s play set. I’m not kidding, it’s an appropriate height for my 7 yr old. It’s so short and the main cooking compartment the bottom portion is very shallow, you can only fit enough charcoal in there to cook something quick like burgers or hot dogs. We bought if for a family vacation home and were counting on using it the day it got delivered since we had no other cookware, or else I would have boxed it back up and returned it.
At least we all got a laugh out of the child’s sized grill. I have included pictures of my father in law wondering who brought a playhouse grill out for your viewing pleasure.
It’s comically small. Like looks like it belongs in a kid’s play set. I’m not kidding, it’s an appropriate height for my 7 yr old. It’s so short and the main cooking compartment the bottom portion is very shallow, you can only fit enough charcoal in there to cook something quick like burgers or hot dogs. We bought if for a family vacation home and were counting on using it the day it got delivered since we had no other cookware, or else I would have boxed it back up and returned it.
At least we all got a laugh out of the child’s sized grill. I have included pictures of my father in law wondering who brought a playhouse grill out for your viewing pleasure.
WinterArcher : This little smoker/grill is a really great addition. We have turned out some of the ...
This little smoker/grill is a really great addition. We have turned out some of the best ribs and chicken ever using it and last week I did braised short ribs that could be award winners.
The side fire box allows you to have more control over the heat and smoke. It is like building a two level fire in a regular grill, but with even more control over the heat and the smoke. The design gives tons of smoke to your food and it is even possible to over smoke so we have learned not to use wood chips until about the last hour of cooking.
PROS:
- Turns out great food
- Cooks ribs for 6-8 easily
- Fantastic ability to control heat and smoke
- Reasonably easy clean up clean out
- Works best with briquettes rather than solid wood charcoal
- Price from Amazon was much better than the local Big Box or Hardware Store
CONS:
- You do have to keep adding charcoal over a 4-6 hour session
- Learning heat control is a bit of trial and error process
- Different fuels burn at different rates
- Assembly was a little tedious, but ALL the parts were there.
- You do have to keep watch on the temperature, this is NOT an automatic process.
The side fire box allows you to have more control over the heat and smoke. It is like building a two level fire in a regular grill, but with even more control over the heat and the smoke. The design gives tons of smoke to your food and it is even possible to over smoke so we have learned not to use wood chips until about the last hour of cooking.
PROS:
- Turns out great food
- Cooks ribs for 6-8 easily
- Fantastic ability to control heat and smoke
- Reasonably easy clean up clean out
- Works best with briquettes rather than solid wood charcoal
- Price from Amazon was much better than the local Big Box or Hardware Store
CONS:
- You do have to keep adding charcoal over a 4-6 hour session
- Learning heat control is a bit of trial and error process
- Different fuels burn at different rates
- Assembly was a little tedious, but ALL the parts were there.
- You do have to keep watch on the temperature, this is NOT an automatic process.
From A to Z : Unable to control temperature.
I like the size. I like the handles.
I do not like the uneven spread of the temperature. The discrepancy is about 15 degrees from one side to the other side of the smoker. You can use a hole bag of coal and the meat won't be cooked evenly. There is no tray for the ashes so either you remove the top coals so you can shovel the ashes or turn off the fire clean up and start a new fire. Half chicken took 4 hours and then I have to put it in the oven to finish cooking.
I do not like the uneven spread of the temperature. The discrepancy is about 15 degrees from one side to the other side of the smoker. You can use a hole bag of coal and the meat won't be cooked evenly. There is no tray for the ashes so either you remove the top coals so you can shovel the ashes or turn off the fire clean up and start a new fire. Half chicken took 4 hours and then I have to put it in the oven to finish cooking.
Dylan Eisenbarth : Reviews were correct
All the reviews were correct. I read as many as I could before my purchase. A ton said you would need high heat silicon to fill gaps that the manufacturer didn't seal and high heat spray paint for when your paint peels off. They were 100% correct. First night I got it I built it and ran through a 2 hour fire after rubbing down the inside and grill grates with grape seed oil to season it. After this 1st fire I had paint peeling off the firebox on both the top and bottom where either the coals landed or the fire kissed the roof as well as the door to the vent. After my 1st smoke, approx 4 hours, I had more of the paint peel in all 3 places. I bought 600° silicon and 2000° spray paint. After using both it's a magnificent starter smoker. I'm having so much fun learning a new craft on this and the food comes out amazing. Holds heat well if it's warm out, not great if it's cold out. End up smoking in the garage if it's cold. I also bought a 6 in. desk fan to blow air into the vent. Really helps control the temp properly. Decent quality metal and easy to build. I'd give it a 3.5/5
Evan Thompson : Better than not having a smoker lol...
Background:
*Writing this review after one use.
*Assembled in 3 hours.
*Seasoned day of first use.
Pros:
*Will give you delicious smoked food.
Cons:
*Did not come with the porcelain water tray as described.
*Did not come with the chip box as described. (Though I don't know why you'd need one)
*Followed directions to initially put it together. Resulted in uneven/teetering legs. After trying several times to make adjustments, I had to take it apart, drill new holes in the legs, and add larger washers to get it to sit right.
*Had to bend some of the metal on the brim of the cooking chamber to let the lid to sit flush.
*A lot of paint on the fire box and bottom side of the smoking chamber burnt off immediately during the first burn.
*Did not come with the silver bottom grate/shelf that is displayed at the bottom of the legs.
*Gaps everywhere. This thing is nowhere close to being able to seal. Inside seams where you'd expect to see a weld bead/root weld were instead just tacked.
*I Had to bend and contort the two pieces of the fire box to get them to come together - The holes didn't line up at all.
*I have to add some additional spacers to the bottom of the legs on the fire box side to pitch the unit so that the drippings/grease can flow down to the drain port. (The drilling of new holes mentioned earlier made the fire box legs longer - meaning this issue was even more dramatic before my initial fix of the teetering issue).
I could complain about more, but you get the picture. I'm annoyed about not getting what was described in the Amazon description and the relative poor quality of the metal/manufacturing/paint.
The quality is less than what I expected. It's kind of flimsy compared to my $100 Weber 22" Kettle grill. I wasn't expecting the world for $80, but I did think I'd get better than this.
I wouldn't buy it again. In my opinion, when you consider the relatively small cooking space (I had maxed out my space with 3 Chicken quarters and a dozen sausages), and poor manufacturing quality - you're better off to seperate with a few more dollars and get something of better quality that offers more cooking space.
Don't get me wrong though, it did the job. Low and slow. Though it took a lot of babysitting to maintain a consistent temp. I would get random temperature flare-ups. It was sometimes difficult to stay under 250 degrees.
So if the option is this smoker or no smoker, than sure. But if possible definetly get a better one.
*Writing this review after one use.
*Assembled in 3 hours.
*Seasoned day of first use.
Pros:
*Will give you delicious smoked food.
Cons:
*Did not come with the porcelain water tray as described.
*Did not come with the chip box as described. (Though I don't know why you'd need one)
*Followed directions to initially put it together. Resulted in uneven/teetering legs. After trying several times to make adjustments, I had to take it apart, drill new holes in the legs, and add larger washers to get it to sit right.
*Had to bend some of the metal on the brim of the cooking chamber to let the lid to sit flush.
*A lot of paint on the fire box and bottom side of the smoking chamber burnt off immediately during the first burn.
*Did not come with the silver bottom grate/shelf that is displayed at the bottom of the legs.
*Gaps everywhere. This thing is nowhere close to being able to seal. Inside seams where you'd expect to see a weld bead/root weld were instead just tacked.
*I Had to bend and contort the two pieces of the fire box to get them to come together - The holes didn't line up at all.
*I have to add some additional spacers to the bottom of the legs on the fire box side to pitch the unit so that the drippings/grease can flow down to the drain port. (The drilling of new holes mentioned earlier made the fire box legs longer - meaning this issue was even more dramatic before my initial fix of the teetering issue).
I could complain about more, but you get the picture. I'm annoyed about not getting what was described in the Amazon description and the relative poor quality of the metal/manufacturing/paint.
The quality is less than what I expected. It's kind of flimsy compared to my $100 Weber 22" Kettle grill. I wasn't expecting the world for $80, but I did think I'd get better than this.
I wouldn't buy it again. In my opinion, when you consider the relatively small cooking space (I had maxed out my space with 3 Chicken quarters and a dozen sausages), and poor manufacturing quality - you're better off to seperate with a few more dollars and get something of better quality that offers more cooking space.
Don't get me wrong though, it did the job. Low and slow. Though it took a lot of babysitting to maintain a consistent temp. I would get random temperature flare-ups. It was sometimes difficult to stay under 250 degrees.
So if the option is this smoker or no smoker, than sure. But if possible definetly get a better one.
Wisemac : Great starter grill with some mods
Great starter grill with some mods. Added some Sil-Bond RTV 6500 high temperature Silicon to seal up the smoke chamber and added
DozyAnt 2" 550F(2 pack) BBQ Barbecue Temp Gauges. Since it is so small, the temperature can fluctuate so need to keep an eye throughout the cook. But overall great value for the price. Once you find out you like BBQ, you may upgrade over time.
DozyAnt 2" 550F(2 pack) BBQ Barbecue Temp Gauges. Since it is so small, the temperature can fluctuate so need to keep an eye throughout the cook. But overall great value for the price. Once you find out you like BBQ, you may upgrade over time.
WINESHAMAN : but for the money I and very pleased.
This grill was a bit smaller than I was expecting but still fits my needs very well, only use this for smoking and due to it's relatively small size it seem to be easier to control both the heat and the smoke. My only concern is how well it will hold up as the quality of the materials seem a little lacking, I line the bottom of both compartments with heavy duty aluminum foil and replace it after each use hopefully this will help with corrosion, but for the money I and very pleased.
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