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Possible Reasons Why Kvd Has Slowed Down 2024


fishing user avatarOzark_Basser reply : 

Is he losing his edge? This is doubtful. He still tears it up in MLF where no one gets to prepare for tournaments. This leads me to believe that he doesn't have the time to prepare for elite series events like a lot of other anglers. You know that since he is KVD he is doing more promotional events, seminars, etc. than anyone else. Is he being overloaded to the point where it's effecting his performance? This may be true. I have read that Kevin is obsessive about studying up on past tournaments, future lakes, videos of old tournaments, etc. Was this one of the main factors that contributed to his edge as an elite angler? He doesn't seem as confident on the water as he did in the past.


fishing user avatarMassBass reply : 

I look at the way KVD fishes as a professional athlete. And as a professional athlete gets old, he starts to decline. Just a thought.


fishing user avatarDarren. reply : 

Either way, I prefer MLF over all the 

other tourneys. Great stuff. KVD is 

a beast on that show.


fishing user avatarNJSalt reply : 

KVD is currently sitting 7th in the AOY standings. While he's not dominating tournaments and winning titles, I would not say he's "losing his edge" at all. 


fishing user avatarOzark_Basser reply : 
  On 6/26/2015 at 12:18 AM, MassBass said:

I look at the way KVD fishes as a professional athlete. And as a professional athlete gets old, he starts to decline. Just a thought.

Lol. It's fishing. He is 47 years old. Old in fishing is more like 60 I would think.


fishing user avatarLogan S reply : 
Last year was abnormal for him, but he's in the top 10 for AOY right  now...So I wouldn't say he's doing poorly at all.  

 

Look at this way...If Bassfest counted for points last year, like it did this year, KVD would have made the Classic.  I doubt we would be talking about his slump as much if that were the case, if we even talked about it at all.  Even still, you can't be at the top of your game 100% of the time, even if you're KVD :).  

 

The Elite Series field gets better every year too, with more top FLW guys making the jump.  The competition has gotten progressively better over the last 5 years or so.  There is very little 'dead money' in the Elite Series now.  

fishing user avatarOzark_Basser reply : 
  On 6/26/2015 at 12:50 AM, NJSalt said:

KVD is currently sitting 7th in the AOY standings. While he's not dominating tournaments and winning titles, I would not say he's "losing his edge" at all.

Well, I didn't see that. I usually just glance at the top five on the bassmaster homepage. I guess that finish on Kentucky Lake really moved him up the standings. I figured he was somewhere in the middle.


fishing user avatarFelix77 reply : 

Maybe he needs to stop tinkering with his swing ... sorry ... wrong sport.   :laugh5:

 

He just had a bad season ... nothing more, nothing less.  I hope it fueled him for this season.  So far ... so good.


fishing user avatarEmersonFish reply : 

He may not be at his peak, but he has not declined as much as some believe. At the 'Elite Series' level, there are so few tournaments, that you can't afford to have any kind of let down. The fact that he missed the 'Classic' last year only spotlights how incredible it is that he had gone so long without missing it.

I'd imagine whatever decline there has been does has something to do with all of his commitments catching up to him a bit, and him being at a point in his career where he has nothing left to prove. So putting in the work to compete with all of these hungry young guys, who comprise a more competitive field than the sport has ever seen, plus balancing family and everything else? It's gotta be tough. He's not trying to scratch out a living anymore like most of the guys on tour.

Having said all of that, if he wins "Angler of the Year" next season, I'm pretty sure nobody (with any sense) will be surprised.


fishing user avatarGotfishyfingers? reply : 

It's hard not to agree his overall performance has declined imho. He missed the classic last year for the first time in a while. As far as world rankings, he has declined drastically after being # 1. It's also hard not to agree he is not fishing for a check like a lot of the elite guys either. I think mentally he might not prepare himself like he use to because of that, again imho..  All elite events have a off limits period. Unless he gets to a lake prior to the off limits time, he spends just as much time as the next elite on the water. Also, there only allowed Mon- Wednesday (Wed is at most a half day) to figure out a lake for a Thurs- Sunday Tournament.  I think missing the classic might of embarrassed his ego just bit. After all, some of his competitors in the elites dreamed growing up to be the next KVD!! Some of them young guns are fierce!!


fishing user avatarcurtis9 reply : 

As the sport has become more popular, I'm sure it's more challenging for him to fish in events. I expect he always has a big crowd following him and has to manage that in addition to fishing.


fishing user avatarJrob78 reply : 

I wouldn't worry about KVD, he's just fine.  Everybody has a bad season every now and then.  It's just amazing that he hasn't had many in his career.   It wouldn't surprise me at all if he won one of the remaining tournaments this season and/or AOY.


fishing user avatarmoguy1973 reply : 

He looked like a machine down on Kentucky.  I think he has plenty left in him.  Last year was a fluke.


fishing user avatartomustang reply : 

Counting all that money distracted him


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 

I heard his wife lost that Original Lucky Cookie recipe . . . . 

 

And the new one is just not the same.

 

He's Hosed.

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarSam reply : 

Why KVD is not doing well........

Because a taxidermist does his taxes?

His other hobby requires dogs and a lantern?

He cleans fish in his living room?

He and his dog are on the same medication?

He is now using his bass boat to haul lumber?

He was voted "most likely to fish from a bridge" in high school and he is working towards that goal?

He enjoys playing with his baits more than he likes to fish?

His kids' basketball hoop is a fishing net?

He likes to hunt quail in the interstate median?

The photo on his fishing license includes his dog?

Motel 6 turns the lights off when they see him coming?

He practices casting in his yard?

His favorite hunting story includes, "So I rolled down the window real quite-like...."

He sunk a rental paddleboat at the park?

His house caught fire and he ran back to save his fishing lures?

He likes to go fishing in Louisiana with a generator and a copper wire?

He has been in the emergency room more than thee times this year to have a fishhook removed.

He keeps catfish in his aquarium?

His most effective fishing lure is TNT?

His wife would rather fish off a bridge than shop for clothes?

He would rather fish than have sex?

He sends fan mail to his favorite fishing lure company?

He spends more than a half a day in a tackle store?

He was baptized on a boat ramp?

He has an above ground swimming pool that he fishes out of?

He has eaten out of a minnow bucket?

His wadding boots double as dress pants?

When he talks about great bass fishermen his grandmother's name always comes up?

His truck license plate frame mentions fishing?

His dream home is a bass boat?

There are electronic singing fish in more than three rooms in his house?

 

I am sure you all can add to these suggested reasons why KVD is not clobbering everyone on the tours.

 

And special thanks to Jeff Foxworthy who is a genius for creating these sayings.


fishing user avataraceman387 reply : 

He's probably been spending too much of his time reading the everything else section on here instead of the other more useful sections  Kind of like me. :grin:


fishing user avatarJeff H reply : 
  On 6/26/2015 at 12:02 PM, A-Jay said:

I heard his wife lost that Original Lucky Cookie recipe . . . . 

 

And the new one is just not the same.

 

He's Hosed.

 

A-Jay

Yup, get the fork ready!


fishing user avatarSam reply : 

That is not a cookie recipe.

 

It is McArthur Park and leaving that cake out in the rain.


fishing user avatarThornback reply : 
  On 6/26/2015 at 1:00 AM, Ozark_Basser said:

Lol. It's fishing. He is 47 years old. Old in fishing is more like 60 I would think.

Knock it off you young whippersnapper :) I'm 76 and I have put four, that went over 8 pounds, in the boat since January.

Back to KVD -- He runs on atomic energy and it could be at 47 he needs a new shot of uranium.


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

Sam ya got way to much time on your hands ;)


fishing user avatarDwight Hottle reply : 
  On 6/27/2015 at 4:07 AM, Thornback said:

Knock it off you young whippersnapper :) I'm 76 and I have put four, that went over 8 pounds, in the boat since January.

Back to KVD -- He runs on atomic energy and it could be at 47 he needs a new shot of uranium.

 

You saved me from commenting.


fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 

He lost his Larry Nixon play book .


fishing user avatarRoLo reply : 

After an astounding string of top dollar years, KVD finally proved that he is human, and not a fish.

The only surprise, is how such stellar performance could last so long!!

If the 'Greatest Angler Debate' were repeated today, I'm afraid Clunn and Martin would be bumped.

 

Roger


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

Everyone experences a slumps, it just took KVD 24 yrs to reach his!


fishing user avatarMFBAB reply : 

Another thing not mentioned is that kvd has it harder than all of the others.

He basically cannot fish a spot twice because of the spectator boats.

In a 4 day tourney, he has to find 4 days worth of fresh big fish water to contend.

A lot of the other guys can fly under the radar and manage their fish for 4 days, but his spots are usually just burned because 20 spectators will waypoint and fish them behind him.

Spectators can impact bass tourneys way more than other sports, one of the down sides of his success I guess.

This is one reason why he dominates at ky lake. It is so vast, and he is so good at reading the ledges there, he can just basically go fishing and run different spots each day and still have success. Most lakes just don't have the real estate for that.


fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 
  On 6/28/2015 at 9:52 PM, MFBAB said:

Another thing not mentioned is that kvd has it harder than all of the others.

He basically cannot fish a spot twice because of the spectator boats.

In a 4 day tourney, he has to find 4 days worth of fresh big fish water to contend.

A lot of the other guys can fly under the radar and manage their fish for 4 days, but his spots are usually just burned because 20 spectators will waypoint and fish them behind him.

Spectators can impact bass tourneys way more than other sports, one of the down sides of his success I guess.

This is one reason why he dominates at ky lake. It is so vast, and he is so good at reading the ledges there, he can just basically go fishing and run different spots each day and still have success. Most lakes just don't have the real estate for that.

I never understood "so called bass anglers" following other bass anglers to find good spots. Part of the sport is finding your own fish . If you cant do that then  you need to try harder . 


fishing user avatarhoosierbass07 reply : 

  Could it be his style of fishing is not productive any more because the environment and waters have been changing?  Or maybe the other competitors have adopted KVDs style and tricks and now he can't beat them because of that? 


fishing user avatarHoosierHawgs reply : 

He may not be #1 right now, but I'd sure take #7 over #104 any day of the week. He's cashing checks and building points. He's got the right idea.


fishing user avatargardnerjigman reply : 

I'm not a fan of KVD. No real reason really. Just a feeling I get towards him. 

 

He is human, and had an off year.

 

He also has a bunch of young, hungry guys chasing him.

 

There are a number of possible reasons for why he didn't make it, but I sure as heck won't write him off just yet. The dude can flat out fish, and isn't going anywhere any time soon.


fishing user avatarIntroC reply : 

I was thinking about this exact topic the other day. The thing about guys like KVD is they force the other guys in the sport to perform that much better. It happens in sports all the time. The athletes today are head and shoulders above the athletes of yesteryear. A lot of ole timers would most certainly argue the point. Even mediocre basketball players of today would more than likely have been superstars thirty years ago. Athletes are always getting better and records are always being broken. Same goes for fishing. Like I said could it be that KVD has forced the rest of the field to perform that much better? There isn't a doubt in my mind. And I bet they would agree.


fishing user avatarSPEEDBEAD. reply : 

Not that I consider him as such but the phrase "It's better to be a has been than a never was" comes to mind.

 

I know I wouldn't want to put money down against him. :grin:


fishing user avatarHoosierHawgs reply : 
  On 7/2/2015 at 7:07 PM, IntroC said:

I was thinking about this exact topic the other day. The thing about guys like KVD is they force the other guys in the sport to perform that much better. It happens in sports all the time. The athletes today are head and shoulders above the athletes of yesteryear. A lot of ole timers would most certainly argue the point. Even mediocre basketball players of today would more than likely have been superstars thirty years ago. Athletes are always getting better and records are always being broken. Same goes for fishing. Like I said could it be that KVD has forced the rest of the field to perform that much better? There isn't a doubt in my mind. And I bet they would agree.

This is a good logical point. You want to outperform your heroes from when you were a kid. Ex. Michael Phelps vs. Mark Spitz. Ex. Lee brothers vs. KVD Ex. Andrew Luck vs Peyton manning. List goes on and on.
fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 

Maybe he hasnt been getting as good information as he use to. I suspect todays top pros have a network that assist them . Theres a lot of money involved .


fishing user avatarThornback reply : 

You could look at it this way -- The Babe slowed down, Ali slowed down, Y. A. Tittle slowed down, Bird slowed down, Tiger is either in a slump or he's slowing down. So we must realize that KVD is also human. He has nothing to be ashamed of and will always be great to many of us.




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