I was marveling at the huge VA smallmouth post... not only is that just a big fish, but extra exceptional as it was caught in a river where the fish stay lean from swimming in current all day. What a rare beast!
As a comparison point, I fish river smallies a lot all over Minnesota which is thought to have some of the best river smb fishing in the country. Have caught more than I can count over 20 inches and yet none have been close to that Virginia fish.
Here are my two biggest at 21 and 21.25 inches, but didn’t even crack 5 lbs...
Whats your biggest river catch?
Well, rivers and lakes are one and the same in TN...... the bottom fish is one of the biggest i have caught in the rapids, the top one was in fast current but like 19 feet deep where its more of a reservoir
I think I’d like fishing in Tennessee..!
Here’s one from the Potomac. Terrible picture but it’s the only one I’ve got. The spot is where I go to catch dinks on the ned rig so sometimes you never know.
Plenty of 16-17” one 18” and a 19” during the spawn last year
It seems some rivers produce broader fish than others. The Wisconsin and the Menominee both put up some wide fish that are heavier for their length than other rivers. I never weigh anything so I can’t comment on what any fish weighs.
Both of these fish were around 20”. Not exactly skinny.
My biggest river smallmouth is the one in my avatar. 19" length, the fish was not weighed. Caught out of the Susquehanna River in PA, the only time I have fished this river.
99% of my fishing is in the Upper Potomac and my biggest smallmouth there is 18.5" (4x).
The biggest SMB I can remember catching was around 16" long and about 2 pounds. I was fishing for LMB and not even trying for SMB. I caught it on a Zoom Trick Worm. All of them I have caught have been caught on baits more for LMB than SMB.
On 11/22/2019 at 10:47 PM, FryDog62 said:What a rare beast!
I was so shocked when a 4lb smallie ate my topwater early this summer, I thought it was a drum! I did not know they got that big in streams. The rapid section just downriver spoiled my chance of a pic.
What did you catch those two hawgs on?
Mine is in my avatar also. 4lb 7oz and was about 21.5” long. Choked a buzz toad in the middle of November about 4 years ago.
On 11/23/2019 at 10:04 AM, BoatSquirrel said:I was so shocked when a 4lb smallie ate my topwater early this summer, I thought it was a drum! I did not know they got that big in streams. The rapid section just downriver spoiled my chance of a pic.
What did you catch those two hawgs on?
I got lucky - the 21 on a white wacky worm in late Fall... and the 21.25 in early June on a Caffeine Shad..
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Susquehanna - PA
So far, my biggest river smallie was 2 lbs, 8 oz.
Them river smallies are scrappy devils for sure.
A river is a river and a riverine power generation lake is a reservior, not a river.
California State Record Smallmouth bass is 9.82 lbs, River record smallmouth is 5.11 lbs Colorado River, lake Havasu on the Colorado River record Smallmouth is 6.46 lbs.
I rarely fish river Smallmouth bass and 4 lb class from Columbia River would be my PB.
Tom
You guys have all got me beat. I have never fished for river smallies.
On 11/25/2019 at 7:40 AM, Dwight Hottle said:You guys have all got me beat. I have never fished for river smallies.
They are a breed amongst themselves... very smart and agile. They are so strong from working out in the current all day and know just how to turn with or against it in a split second to get a little slack and spit a hook. That being said they seem to go airborne much more than lake smallmouth and are very entertaining fish to catch. ...but they can break your heart too!
Smallmouth are a prominent breed of fish here in the many rivers in VA.
The James , new, Potomac and Shenandoah are great for citation class fish.
They're much easier to catch than largemouth around here.
On 11/25/2019 at 6:44 AM, WRB said:A river is a river and a riverine power generation lake is a reservior, not a river.
California State Record Smallmouth bass is 9.82 lbs, River record smallmouth is 5.11 lbs Colorado River, lake Havasu on the Colorado River record Smallmouth is 6.46 lbs.
I rarely fish river Smallmouth bass and 4 lb class from Columbia River would be my PB.
Tom
Last time I checked the river runs right through the dam on a reservoir....... guntersville, pickwick, and chickamauga are still the Tennessee River. The delineation is not even close to cut and dry
On 11/23/2019 at 9:33 AM, Log Catcher said:The biggest SMB I can remember catching was around 16" long and about 2 pounds. I was fishing for LMB and not even trying for SMB. I caught it on a Zoom Trick Worm. All of them I have caught have been caught on baits more for LMB than SMB.
Smallmouth have quite an attitude and at times will hit almost anything, often bigger lures than a largemouth would hit. I was once chucking a foot long muskie lure a few years ago and caught a 10 inch smallmouth.
On 11/25/2019 at 7:47 PM, TnRiver46 said:Last time I checked the river runs right through the dam on a reservoir....... guntersville, pickwick, and chickamauga are still the Tennessee River. The delineation is not even close to cut and dry
While you're correct, the channel exists, a lake is completely different than a river. The lakes are still managed for water level, flood storage, etc. The rivers have constant current, fish hold in different locations in current than they do in a lake. The dam has altered the river. To insinuate they are even similar is simply wrong.
One of the largest smallies ever caught came from a river in WV. Almost 10 pounds.
South Branch of the Potomac....you can just about pee across it in some areas if you drank enough coffee.
Anyone know if it is the largest river smallie on record?
Gives hope to all those creek fishermen, that they too could tangle with a monster.
On 11/26/2019 at 11:09 AM, Montanaro said:One of the largest smallies ever caught came from a river in WV. Almost 10 pounds.
South Branch of the Potomac....you can just about pee across it in some areas if you drank enough coffee.
Anyone know if it is the largest river smallie on record?
Gives hope to all those creek fishermen, that they too could tangle with a monster.
Do tailwaters count?
On 11/26/2019 at 9:33 AM, Drew03cmc said:While you're correct, the channel exists, a lake is completely different than a river. The lakes are still managed for water level, flood storage, etc. The rivers have constant current, fish hold in different locations in current than they do in a lake. The dam has altered the river. To insinuate they are even similar is simply wrong.
So you are referring free stone streams only ? The dam also alters the river below
On 11/25/2019 at 7:47 PM, TnRiver46 said:Last time I checked the river runs right through the dam on a reservoir....... guntersville, pickwick, and chickamauga are still the Tennessee River. The delineation is not even close to cut and dry
The water behind a dam is a reservior....even in TN. The only dam that water runs around is a wing dam. All power generating dams have gates to control when and how much water is released.
Off topic, believe what want.
Tom
Well i guess i have never caught a river smallie according to this thread so my new answer is 0 lbs 0 ozs. In a state without natural lakes nonetheless....
On 11/27/2019 at 1:44 AM, WRB said:The water behind a dam is a reservior....even in TN. The only dam that water runs around is a wing dam. All power generating dams have gates to control when and how much water is released.
Off topic, believe what want.
Tom
Every drop of water in the whole state is behind a dam, some just further upstream than others
5lbs 12oz on a hot August day from the John Day river in Oregon....from a drift boat!
On 11/27/2019 at 3:52 AM, TnRiver46 said:Well i guess i have never caught a river smallie according to this thread so my new answer is 0 lbs 0 ozs. In a state without natural lakes nonetheless....
Every drop of water in the whole state is behind a dam, some just further upstream than others
You would be correct. A river is a river, not an impoundment. If you weren't fishing in the river, not a TVA lake, you were not catching river fish.
On 11/27/2019 at 12:29 PM, Drew03cmc said:You would be correct. A river is a river, not an impoundment. If you weren't fishing in the river, not a TVA lake, you were not catching river fish.
The upper end of Several TVA impoundments are miles of shoals and rapids. You would just have to see it all to fully understand. I’ve caught hundreds of smallies all throughout dozens of rivers in Tennessee but if you go downstream far enough there’s always a dam. I would also consider fishing a tail water right below a dam a river but if that’s crazy oh well. The water is super fast and its a narrow meandering channel so I think it fits.
On 11/27/2019 at 12:47 PM, TnRiver46 said:The upper end of Several TVA impoundments are miles of shoals and rapids. You would just have to see it all to fully understand. I’ve caught hundreds of smallies all throughout dozens of rivers in Tennessee but if you go downstream far enough there’s always a dam. I would also consider fishing a tail water right below a dam a river but if that’s crazy oh well. The water is super fast and its a narrow meandering channel so I think it fits.
If you're referring to the extreme upper end, depending on where and what, that may qualify, but is all situational.
On 11/27/2019 at 1:09 PM, Drew03cmc said:If you're referring to the extreme upper end, depending on where and what, that may qualify, but is all situational.
I agree, and saying there’s a definite line where one ends and the other starts is impossible. This is the upper end of lake Cumberland, I’d call it a river ...... this is also very similar to what the upper end of fort Loudoun lake, Norris lake, Douglas lake, Cherokee lake, watauga lake, south Holston lake, Boone lake, and several others all look like. There’s even some portions of water that flow into the famous chickamauga lake that are class 5 whitewater
My best was a 4lbs 8oz on the Sauk River in MN.
5 pounds 9 ounces from the New River.
I don't think you're going to get a fish much over 5lbs out of a river because that bulk is drag they have to spend energy constantly fighting the current. I've broken 4lbs but the fish are always very long (21"+) and skinny compared to lake residents.
I suppose if you've got a fast water river that dumps into the upstream end of a large reservoir you stand a chance at a 6+ if you found a lake resident that happened to make a run up into the fast water for some reason.
On 11/28/2019 at 12:47 AM, onthewater102 said:I don't think you're going to get a fish much over 5lbs out of a river because that bulk is drag they have to spend energy constantly fighting the current. I've broken 4lbs but the fish are always very long (21"+) and skinny compared to lake residents.
I suppose if you've got a fast water river that dumps into the upstream end of a large reservoir you stand a chance at a 6+ if you found a lake resident that happened to make a run up into the fast water for some reason.
I agree, that’s what makes that 9 lb Virginia river smallmouth such a rare beast!
I just remembered two more river monsters from the same day about 10 years ago. In a $60 inflatable kayak on a 10 mile float ....... The bottom fish was tied for my longest smallmouth ever at 23" (skinny though) and my buddy got a replica mount of the top fish
On 11/28/2019 at 6:44 AM, TnRiver46 said:I just remembered two more river monsters from the same day about 10 years ago. In a $60 inflatable kayak on a 10 mile float ....... The bottom fish was tied for my longest smallmouth ever at 23" (skinny though) and my buddy got a replica mount of the top fish
Nice, did you determine how much the 23 incher weighed?
On 11/28/2019 at 7:46 AM, FryDog62 said:Nice, did you determine how much the 23 incher weighed?
No but I was guessing not much over 4 lbs as snakey as it was (it hit a buzzbait in rapids!) I think the one my buddy had that same day pictured above was a good bit heavier. The fish in my avatar was also very close to 23” but again no weight. I would guess 5
21.25" but I don't know what it weighed.
Allen
On 11/28/2019 at 3:33 AM, FryDog62 said:I agree, that’s what makes that 9 lb Virginia river smallmouth such a rare beast!
There’s a river that flows out of Virginia into Tennessee that has stocked trout and there are rumors of monster smallmouth (and largemouth) in it.......... heard tale of smallmouth at 8 or better and I think there was a documented largemouth not far shy of 15 a few years back
I dont know how much she weighed but she was a big'un . Caught on a popper ..
On 11/28/2019 at 12:01 PM, scaleface said:I dont know how much she weighed but she was a big'un . Caught on a popper ..
You mean you didn’t have a battery powered scale in your pocket while swimming? Nice fish!!!
Mine wasn't weighed, but I'm guessing between 3 and 4 lbs, my PB. I had a 5lber up to the boat this year on the St. Lawrence, but it spit the hook. Most of the non-river bodies of water in my fishing neighborhood don't produce smallies anywhere near what the St. Lawrence does. (Lake Ontario and Lake Champlain are just a shade too far for me to regularly fish. A 5 lb smallie is one of my goals for next summer.
The fish in my avatar is the biggest river Smallmouth Bass I have caught.
Got her on a bone colored Whopper Plopper last year from the upper Hudson River NY She weighed in at 4lbs even.
Almost forgot a nearly 22 incher that my son caught on the Mississippi near the headwaters that weighed 5 1/2 lbs.
20 1/4 inches in August 2018. I usually catch a couple 19-20 inches every summer. Frydog knows what river I catch them from.
19"
Kiskiminetas River in Western PA.
I catch several 18 and 19 inchers every year on a small river, some would call it a creek, but the biggest one has only weighed 3.1 lbs. It usually doesn't get more than 2 feet deep either.
Virginia is a Smallmouth heaven I guess as I catch several citations every year.
White spinnerbaits and cotton candy Zoom lizards and there no trouble to catch......no experience needed with SM.
One of the better river stringers I’ve had, caught by my friend Steve and I... again, near the headwaters of the Miss where the water gets skinny..
Smallmouth are beautiful ain't they ?
@FryDog62, Steve pennaz? That’s pretty awesome!
On 12/18/2019 at 10:16 AM, TnRiver46 said:@FryDog62, Steve pennaz? That’s pretty awesome!
Agreed! Lake Commandos is in my Top 3 favorite fishing shows.
On 12/19/2019 at 3:58 AM, Steveo-1969 said:Agreed! Lake Commandos is in my Top 3 favorite fishing shows.
Wait a minute steveo........ Is that because you are the host????? I see a gray beard in your avatar
On 12/18/2019 at 10:16 AM, TnRiver46 said:@FryDog62, Steve pennaz? That’s pretty awesome!
In fairness I think 3 of those fish were Steve’s. I lost a pretty good one too, but he beat me pretty good. The show aired last January and is probably in re-run cyberspace somewhere
What I fish is considered more a creek than a river. The majority of it is knee deep with holes of water waist to chest deep at best. My best smallmouth from these waters was a 20" fish. I had wade fished many hours that day and was sitting on the bank having a break and puffing on a cigar. I look mid stream and there comes a big smallie, I had a model 450 AC shiner in purple tied on and as I cast the lure about 8-10 feet ahead of the swimming fish it reacted as if it saw the lure falling through the air and the instant the lure hit the water that bass had sped across that distance and nailed that lure. I measured and released. The very next week I lost that $13 plug to a musky at the exact same place. I've caught numerous 18 and 19" smallmouth in creeks since but have not surpassed the 20" mark. Maybe this year!
On 12/19/2019 at 6:00 AM, Smells like fish said:What I fish is considered more a creek than a river. The majority of it is knee deep with holes of water waist to chest deep at best. My best smallmouth from these waters was a 20" fish. I had wade fished many hours that day and was sitting on the bank having a break and puffing on a cigar. I look mid stream and there comes a big smallie, I had a model 450 AC shiner in purple tied on and as I cast the lure about 8-10 feet ahead of the swimming fish it reacted as if it saw the lure falling through the air and the instant the lure hit the water that bass had sped across that distance and nailed that lure. I measured and released. The very next week I lost that $13 plug to a musky at the exact same place. I've caught numerous 18 and 19" smallmouth in creeks since but have not surpassed the 20" mark. Maybe this year!
Cool story, it’s amazing sometimes what great sight-feeders smallmouth are. My PB was caught when I cast too close to shore and wrapped around a branch. Wacky worm dangling above, the fish came out of the water twice to get it. Quite an attitude they have too!
My biggest river Smallie was 23 1/4!! I didn't own a scale at that point, so I have no idea the weight of her. For what it's worth t hpugh, the fishes proportions were perfect. Chunky AND long!
I caught her in a West-central WI river on a little green pumpkin blue Cabin Creek Salty Critter Jr tube rigged on a Cadman's Smallie Crawlin jig (my Go-To).
Funny thing is that she didn't really fight very hard. Hit was normal, only one jump (which was enough to see how big the fish was and stop the heart lol) the most impressive thing was how hard she dead stopped me... in the fastest current... with drag singing... so much fun!
Definitely trophy worthy!
On 12/18/2019 at 9:16 AM, FryDog62 said:One of the better river stringers I’ve had, caught by my friend Steve and I... again, near the headwaters of the Miss where the water gets skinny..
Those kind of beauties right there are why I think Smallmouth are better looking fish than Largemouth.
On 12/19/2019 at 4:57 AM, FryDog62 said:In fairness I think 3 of those fish were Steve’s. I lost a pretty good one too, but he beat me pretty good. The show aired last January and is probably in re-run cyberspace somewhere
Did you catch a smallmouth at the boat landing before the boat was even launched? (Hmmmm, that might have been In-Fisherman or Linder's Angling Edge or Ultimate Fishing Experience or...).
Anywho, I'm going to look for your episode on MOTV. I'm sure I watched it before but now I can say "Holy Crap, that's FryDog62!!!".
Well the spoiler alert is I didn’t have a very good day on the water, although I did pick the right pattern. Had the topwater bite been anything like we expected it could have been a highly productive day. Steve definitely is quite a talented and persistent angler and not just a pitch man for product...
On 12/20/2019 at 5:59 AM, FryDog62 said:Well the spoiler alert is I didn’t have a very good day on the water, although I did pick the right pattern. Had the topwater bite been anything like we expected it could have been a highly productive day. Steve definitely is quite a talented and persistent angler and not just a pitch man for product...
I enjoyed the North American Fisherman show with Steve and Hal Schramm and the Knot Wars segment. I think Lake Commandos is one of the most enjoyable to watch shows out today. Glad to hear he is not just pitching Berkley/Abu rods/reels/line/lures, etc...
I watched your show last night on MOTV. I'm addicted to jig fishing and was glad to see you had the most productive pattern of the day! I'm adding Chris Fryer to my list of fishing celebrities that are members of Bass Resource!! ????
My biggest is a 5.13 on the Umatilla Pool of the Columbia. Before smart phones but not before a digital scale. I lost one over six at the boat and wet myself.
On 11/27/2019 at 3:52 AM, TnRiver46 said:Well i guess i have never caught a river smallie according to this thread so my new answer is 0 lbs 0 ozs. In a state without natural lakes nonetheless....
Every drop of water in the whole state is behind a dam, some just further upstream than others
Dude you are catching river smallies. You are a river smallie addict. Some are getting a bit over technical on matters that mean nothing.
You and I are from different parts of old glory but fish similar.
I enjoy your posts. I’m want to get down your way before I leave Gods green earth. Do want to get to Pickwick.
This is my largest river smallie out of the Shiawassee River ( guys down south might call it a creek) the river averages 30-50 yards across maximum avg depth is probably 3-4 feet ( not counting holes)so no power boats . Actually I’m fairly positive I’ve caught this fish twice, 2nd time I took this pic. I think it was spring of 2016. I had wadded about a half mile Down river from the park to bend. The bend in the river that had a nice deep run in the middle and on the opposite side from where I was casting the opposite side was deep, quiet, with vegetation. Using a J-7 jointed silver belly black back rapala ( which, early April-mid June it slays smallies). I casted to the opposite Side a couple times finally I got it really close to the vegetation and she nailed. This smallie put up. Nice fight. I’m 6ft4 and was in over knee deep water and I swear she jumped level with my eyes 2 times. im not sure how long she was but, that J-7 is caught next to her in the net for comparison.
Ive neglected the Shiawassee river since getting my boat. Thinking this year I need to bust out the canoe Again and give her hell.
Caught this one 4 years ago in February on one of those cheap floating bps jerkbaits. No scale so no clue what it weighed but without a shadow of a doubt my biggest smallmouth.
Wisconsin River Smallmouth 21 inches. 5.5 lbs
In the kayak world we measure our fish for our online leagues. This was my best ever day on the Wisconsin River May 2019.
92.75 inches 20.25/19/18/17.75 x 2
after a year of catching many fives i got one over six. some day im gonna get some of my pics on here
My pb is a tie between two fish and both were out of rivers. First one was a summer fish out of pool 4 of the Mississippi at 20.5 inches. Got it in lake pepin itself, which for those of you who don’t know is a 20k acre lake that has been that way for thousands of years, so it’s not really a reservoir. Still has a river above and bellow it, so a lot of the fish will migrate in and out of the lake depending on time of year. My second 20.5 was out of the Zumbro river which is a much smaller tributary to the miss in southern mn. I caught this one in November out of the deepest hole in that stretch of river and it was way fatter than the one from the mighty miss
On 2/15/2020 at 9:52 PM, Brendan Andrews said:My pb is a tie between two fish and both were out of rivers. First one was a summer fish out of pool 4 of the Mississippi at 20.5 inches. Got it in lake pepin itself, which for those of you who don’t know is a 20k acre lake that has been that way for thousands of years, so it’s not really a reservoir. Still has a river above and bellow it, so a lot of the fish will migrate in and out of the lake depending on time of year. My second 20.5 was out of the Zumbro river which is a much smaller tributary to the miss in southern mn. I caught this one in November out of the deepest hole in that stretch of river and it was way fatter than the one from the mighty miss
That’s cool Brendan, I’m originally from Rochester and have fished Pepin, Wabasha, and the Zumbro below the power dam many times. Great fishing if you know where to go in those rivers, sounds like you caught some hogs!
On 2/15/2020 at 11:55 PM, FryDog62 said:That’s cool Brendan, I’m originally from Rochester and have fished Pepin, Wabasha, and the Zumbro below the power dam many times. Great fishing if you know where to go in those rivers, sounds like you caught some hogs!
That’s awesome man, the fish I was talking about is from bellow the power dam, it’s my favorite fishery in southern mn. I spend most of my time musky fishing there or walleye fishing in the winter but there are some amazing smallies there too. Took a picture of a guy with his phone of a 22.75, really wish I had that picture. There’s also 55+ inch muskies in there, I’ve only got 40’s so far but saw a 54 and a 56 come out last year
On 2/16/2020 at 7:05 AM, Brendan Andrews said:That’s awesome man, the fish I was talking about is from bellow the power dam, it’s my favorite fishery in southern mn. I spend most of my time musky fishing there or walleye fishing in the winter but there are some amazing smallies there too. Took a picture of a guy with his phone of a 22.75, really wish I had that picture. There’s also 55+ inch muskies in there, I’ve only got 40’s so far but saw a 54 and a 56 come out last year
Yeah, great fishery below for a bunch of species. Muskies are a funny story - originally stocked in the reservoir above the dam, but they all took a ride down the 90 foot spillway into the river below. That would make ValleyFair look tame!
On 2/16/2020 at 7:05 AM, Brendan Andrews said:That’s awesome man, the fish I was talking about is from bellow the power dam, it’s my favorite fishery in southern mn. I spend most of my time musky fishing there or walleye fishing in the winter but there are some amazing smallies there too. Took a picture of a guy with his phone of a 22.75, really wish I had that picture. There’s also 55+ inch muskies in there, I’ve only got 40’s so far but saw a 54 and a 56 come out last year
That sounds like an awesome place to fish.
This fish made me feel like I was in a movie. The aerial acrobatics it did during the fight were awesome. This is my favorite fish that I have ever caught.
On 2/17/2020 at 2:49 PM, Michigander said:This fish made me feel like I was in a movie. The aerial acrobatics it did during the fight were awesome. This is my favorite fish that I have ever caught.
Is that a smallmouth? It's so muddy it's hard to tell.......
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On 2/19/2020 at 4:54 AM, Steveo-1969 said:
Is that a smallmouth? It's so muddy it's hard to tell.......
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Yes, it's a smallmouth. The fight continued on land.
On 2/19/2020 at 6:40 AM, Michigander said:Yes, it's a smallmouth. The fight continued on land.
It's true that they never give up.........
I caught this big girl a year and a half ago on a green pumpkin and orange Ned Rig in about a foot of water. This river is a glorified creek in Central Illinois. It seems like nobody but myself and people I trust to tell know that big bass live here if you know how to find them and catch them.
My personal best Smallmouth was 4 1/2 to 5 pound. New to The Forum I'm from Ontario Canada.