How much does this NY giant weigh??? 2024

Tuckman reply :

Take a guess at the weight of this NY chunker!...I'll tell you that she is just a tad over 20" but as you can see she was packin the girth of a small Rosie O'Donnell.

This is my current PB smallie. I got her last october while practicing for the Chautauqua Bassmasters fall open on Chautauqua Lake...A small New York lake where you need a bag of 5 smallies over 25lbs to even raise an eyebrow in October. :-?

Sorry about the poor quality of the pic, all we had was my old 1.3mpx camera phone, but thats def. better then not having any pic at all!!!

So what does she weigh? :-X

huskybass reply :

Very nice smallie, congrats. I would not be surpised if she went 6 pounds.

MitchIsFishin reply :

uh, WOW!!! I'd say 5 1/2-6 1/2 lbs. Beautiful smallie!

SmallieFever reply :

That's the kinda bass dreams are made of! what a toad....I'm certainly no expert but I wouldn't be surprised if she was close to 7lbs. I'd be more confident of this guess if she was a lil longer but with that kind of girth the weight has to be right up there. LoL at the Rosie joke...sounds like something I'd say.

roadwarrior reply :

Wow!

After 5 you have to weigh them.

I would guess 7 lbs.

8-)

Dan: reply :

I would say around 7lbs also

bassmaster3000 reply :

I'd say 6 1/2!! ;D ;D

That is just a hawg!!

"That is one peeeeeing bass!!!!" - Shaw Grigsby ;D

Stroob reply :

That's the widest smallmouth I've ever seen-great bass! I'd definitely say over 6 lbs, how far over would depend on how fat the stomach was.

dmac14 reply :

Looks like a beauty, this summer I am fishing a Chautauqua I'm hoping to catch some ones like that. And i would giver her 6+. What did you catch her on?

SMfisher reply :

nice fish, looks like 6 1/2 to 7

Bass Dude reply :

I would say 6 1/2-7 1/2. Chatauqua is a awesome lake. There are monster Largmouth there too. Even in the summer tourney I was in there took 20 something to win.

Paul Roberts reply :

I hate the guessing game...But, I'm game.

A tad over 20 should put a "normal" good condition smallie at just about 4lbs. That fish I'll venture is 5-1/4. Now Chautauqua is known for 7# smallies on occasion, which should put me pretty low. But ONLY (LOL) 20inches...OK, 5-1/2.

Dwight Hottle reply :

My guess is 6.5 lbs. Beautiful fish, looks longer than 20".

Tuckman reply :

Well you guys are all close...I wish that I could say that she was a 7lbr, but I got 6.33 out of her on the cull-em-rite scale, but I'm sure not complaining!. I think if she had another in inch on her she would have cracked 7 though!!!

I caught her on one of the original Excalibur #6 Fat Free shads in a citrus color. I had just given the lure an onsite custom paint job with permanant markers(black stripes and orange belly to make it look more like a perch), and that was the ticket...I also caught a 5.9 and a 5.3 off the same spot, same lure, same day!!!

Paul Roberts, I did see of those 7 pound smallmouths that Chautaugua is known for... The day after I caught this toad, I was reeling in a "small" 4lbr and the mother of all smallies came up trying to take the crank out of its mouth, she came right up to the boat with the other one and it looked like she was trying to eat the 4lbr!...Me and my buddy caught numerous fish between 5 and 6 lbs in the 3 days we fished Chautaugua, and this big mamma was in another class alltogether...I'll be back for her next fall!!!

8-)

Paul Roberts reply :

It's been a few years, but it sounds like the Chautauqua smallie fishery is smokin'!

Tuckman reply :

Oh Yea...Its more than smokin' in October...The last few years that fall open tourny that Chautauqua Bassmasters hosts has had some unbelievable weights...If you only have 20lbs, you might as well go home early!!!

huskybass reply :

Here's another beast at 5 pounds and only 19" that a friend caught, very thick fish.

Dogface reply :

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as you can see she was packin the girth of a small Rosie O'Donnell.

That's mean comparing a beautiful fish to Rosie O'Donnell.

SMfisher reply :

wow! nice fat fish.

Tuckman reply :

Huskybass thats another fat toad...these fish are prime examples of when the smallies get on a feeding frenzy they eat way faster than they can grow, so they just expand instead ;D

roadwarrior reply :

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Here's another beast at 5 pounds and only 19" that a friend caught, very thick fish.

Now that's a "football!"

8-)

Paul Roberts reply :

5lbs 19"!!

What is it about smallmouth?

The only time I see largies THAT fat is when they are stuffed with shad, or trout -really fatty prey. Some smallies eat alewife, smelt or cisco -fatty species. But it seems in some waters smallies can also do this with perch or Gobies. LM can't as far as I know.

So, what are the forage types you giant killers have in your waters? I see posts with such fish coming from Maine, CT, and NY. What are these monsters getting fat on?

roadwarrior reply :

#1 baitfish around here is threadfin shad (yellowtail)

Otherwise, skipjack, slick minnows, shiners and crawdads.

8-)

J Francho reply :

Alewife and Gizzard Shad, plus gobies here.

Dwight Hottle reply :

Here in erie its gobies, emeralds, perch & rainbow smelts. Two years ago in May there was a massive die-off of rainbow smelts with dying & dead fish all over the surface. I had great difficulty getting any bites until I tried matching the hatch with similar color pointers basically dead sticking them.

Tuckman reply :

The Finger Lakes are infested with Palegic baitfish, but chautaugua on the other hand is one of the few New York lakes that has not been hit with the palegic baitfish infestation. The fish were gorging on perch and craws when I was there last fall. One awesome thing that goes with not having palegic baitfish is that the smallies feed in shallow year round so you can easily reach them with normal presentations...you can go down an 8ft weedline in midsummer flippin a jig and hit 4-5lb smallies and largemouths alike...thats a dream lake as far as Im concerned

Paul Roberts reply :

OK, I hope I'm not pulling this thread off topic too much, but, so many topics just get me thinking...at least it's somewhat relevant

I think there's something useful in this FAT smallie thing. In comparing LM and SM I'm wondering if this isn't another view into the relative efficiencies of each. That the playing field for both are not "even" or comparable in some linear way. LMs are more stingy with their energy, and smallies less so -built with dash speed and can exploit open water prey that occur in denser numbers. Is the SM the derived form??

I have a pond with SM, surrounded by similar ponds with LM, where vegetation (milfoil) based bluegills are the primary forage. It's basically a LM fishery if you just looked at it. The smallies here have to hunt bluegills amongst vegetation! They reach good length (20"), but are all thin -to a fish. There is an apparent efficiency issue there, for the smallies. I'm waiting to see if there's a time of year where they get fat -like I see in most LM fisheries.

For LM, in "indigenous" habitat, it seems to take a very special set of circumstances to provide such growth, and one I think is more easily perturbed by human imfluence, i.e. eutrophication (which, in many larger open water bodies can actually inc SM growth).

Anyway, just throwing it out there.

Bass-1 reply :

CONGRATS TUCKMAN,

I thought for sure that one would have broken 7. What a big smallie...Anytime you have an open seat and need a partner, look me up...LOL

Tuckman reply :

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OK, I hope I'm not pulling this thread off topic too much, but, so many topics just get me thinking...at least it's somewhat relevant
I think there's something useful in this FAT smallie thing. In comparing LM and SM I'm wondering if this isn't another view into the relative efficiencies of each. That the playing field for both are not "even" or comparable in some linear way. LMs are more stingy with their energy, and smallies less so -built with dash speed and can exploit open water prey that occur in denser numbers. Is the SM the derived form??

I have a pond with SM, surrounded by similar ponds with LM, where vegetation (milfoil) based bluegills are the primary forage. It's basically a LM fishery if you just looked at it. The smallies here have to hunt bluegills amongst vegetation! They reach good length (20"), but are all thin -to a fish. There is an apparent efficiency issue there, for the smallies. I'm waiting to see if there's a time of year where they get fat -like I see in most LM fisheries.

For LM, in "indigenous" habitat, it seems to take a very special set of circumstances to provide such growth, and one I think is more easily perturbed by human imfluence, i.e. eutrophication (which, in many larger open water bodies can actually inc SM growth).

Anyway, just throwing it out there.

Paul I have tried to raise smallies in one of our deeper(20ft)ponds and it seems smallies that just dont seem to do very in well in ponds esp. competing with largemouth...On the other hand one of my friends put one big smallie in his pond full of small largemouth and it became the dominate fish and grew very huge in very short time...

My own thought on this is that smallies are better at adapting to the environment around thier prey(nomadic foragers), while largemouths are better at adapting to the prey around thier environment.(opportunity foragers)

I'm sure there is way more to it than that tho

Paul Roberts reply :

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My own thought on this is that smallies are better at adapting to the environment around thier prey(nomadic foragers), while largemouths are better at adapting to the prey around thier environment.(opportunity foragers)

Interesting way of looking at it.

SissySticks reply :

Many small lakes here in KS have both large and smallmouth bass. Its a matter of having habitat to accomodate both of them. The lakes where both species are successful tend to have areas that are mostly rock and areas that are mostly weeds. If there's abundant coontail though, all bets are off. Smallmouth will hunt shad around the edges and largemouth will eat bluegills in the matted stuff. There's one small lake here (~200 acres) where the lake record smallie is 5.8 pounds and the lake record largemouth is 7.6. Both huge fish by Kansas standards. On the other hand, big Milford (which got a bad rap from the Fed tournament but is actually a nice fishery), the habitat is mostly rock and the smallies dominate the largemouth completely there. Its all habitat based.

Paul Roberts reply :

Here's a write-up of a trip to the above mentioned pond:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1213965803/0#0

In it I rattle on some about bass feeding behavior, but really am describing LM behavior more than that of SM.

I chatted with Ralph Manns a bit about the FAT smallie idea and he wondered if it doesn't have something to do with the fact that SM were originally a riverine species, and LM lacustrine (still water), and wht we see in some present day smallies is the energetic difference stillwater environments provide SM. Pure speculation, but interesting.

justfishin reply :

Man they are hard to juge by a picture. I would say between 6-6 to 7-2

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