Orange smallie? 2024
MIbassyaker reply :
Anybody ever catch one like this?
https://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2018/08/extremely_rare_orange_bass_cau.html
"Xanthism", according to the biologist quoted in this story.
mattkenzer reply :
Catch one? .... not me.
Interesting just the same.
Thanks for sharing.
looking45 reply :
How about this one I caught? Smallie coloring and markings on the cheek, but spotted bass markings on the body
Way north bass guy reply :
Never caught an orange one but last fall I got a small blue guy.
12poundbass reply :
I think someone on here caught a largemouth that was orange.... @Catt?
Choporoz reply :
On 9/29/2015 at 7:47 AM, J Francho said:Google xanthism.
On 7/2/2015 at 6:30 AM, Snakehead Whisperer said:This.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I caught a largemouth with a bright yellow tail, but the rest of the body was normal colored. It's pretty amazing that they beat the odds and survive to adulthood.
This is one of the coolest off colored fish I've caught.
Spankey reply :
On 8/30/2018 at 6:21 AM, Way north bass guy said:
Never caught an orange one but last fall I got a small blue guy.
Great post and story info.
I dig that blue Smallie. Hope to have one in my future like that.
I've caught some super dark smallies. Not totally unusual. And some Smallies with very unusual black birth marks on them. Smooth and in the scales. I've heard these birth marks are a healthy thing.
Anyway great post, thanks.
J Francho reply :
On 8/30/2018 at 6:47 PM, Spankey said:And some Smallies with very unusual black birth marks on them. Smooth and in the scales. I've heard these birth marks are a healthy thing.
Not really a healthy thing, but doesn't seem as bad as it sounds: melanoma.
12poundbass reply :
On 8/30/2018 at 8:46 PM, J Francho said:Not really a healthy thing, but doesn't seem as bad as it sounds: melanoma.
I thought the bass were joining in on all the rage by us humans and getting tattoos all over!
J Francho reply :
It's pumpkin spice flavored smallie!
mattkenzer reply :
On 8/30/2018 at 9:54 PM, J Francho said:It's pumpkin spice flavored smallie!
It does look like it wouldn't require a dash of paprika or cayenne ...... 
TnRiver46 reply :
Go vols big orange bass
Otter17 reply :
On 8/30/2018 at 1:10 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I caught a largemouth with a bright yellow tail, but the rest of the body was normal colored. It's pretty amazing that they beat the odds and survive to adulthood.
This is one of the coolest off colored fish I've caught.
Piebald Catfish. An albino coloration.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 10/25/2018 at 1:26 PM, Otter17 said:Piebald Catfish. An albino coloration.
Correct, a piebald blue catfish to be exact. There's quite a few in the lake. I don't fish it often and that was the second one I've caught. I'd love to catch one of the 30-50 solid white ones I've seen pictures of.
Otter17 reply :
For Sure! It would be the Moby Dick of freshwater. ????
J Francho reply :
On 10/25/2018 at 1:26 PM, Otter17 said:An albino coloration.
Leucistic, actually. Not albino. Check some of the pics on wiki. Pretty wild:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucism
Paul Roberts reply :
Yes, leucistic -no pink eyes, as in albino's. "Piebald" refers to a dark and white coloration -think Holsteins.
On 8/30/2018 at 6:21 AM, Way north bass guy said:
Never caught an orange one but last fall I got a small blue guy.
I caught a steel blue LM last spring. Pigment expression gone awry.
moguy1973 reply :
On 8/30/2018 at 5:18 AM, looking45 said:How about this one I caught? Smallie coloring and markings on the cheek, but spotted bass markings on the body
That would be a mean mouth.
Otter17 reply :
On 10/26/2018 at 1:32 AM, moguy1973 said:That would be a mean mouth.
Do LM and SM crossbreed?
On 10/26/2018 at 12:39 AM, Paul Roberts said:Yes, leucistic -no pink eyes, as in albino's. "Piebald" refers to a dark and white coloration -think Holsteins.
I caught a steel blue LM last spring. Pigment expression gone awry.
Leucistic? That is totally new to me. Never heard that one. Thanks for sharing that. ????
moguy1973 reply :
On 10/26/2018 at 4:05 AM, Otter17 said:Do LM and SM crossbreed?
Sure. So do Spots and Smallmouth. That one looks like a spot/smallie hybrid meanmouth.
MIbassyaker reply :
On 10/26/2018 at 4:21 AM, moguy1973 said:Sure. So do Spots and Smallmouth. That one looks like a spot/smallie hybrid meanmouth.
Do largemouth and smallmouth really hybridize? I have not heard of that.
I know spots and smallies are more closely related to each other than either is to largemouth.
moguy1973 reply :
On 10/26/2018 at 9:13 AM, MIbassyaker said:Do largemouth and smallmouth really hybridize? I have not heard of that.
I know spots and smallies are more closely related to each other than either is to largemouth.
Yep.
http://www.in-fisherman.com/editorial/hybrid-black-bass/154884#
Largemouth/Smallmouth hybrids typically look a lot like a smallmouth but they are green with no real noticeable stripes or spots on their sides. Spot/Smallmouth hybrids look like spotted bass that are more brownish like the one above.
J Francho reply :
On 10/26/2018 at 9:13 AM, MIbassyaker said:Do largemouth and smallmouth really hybridize? I have not heard of that.
Not too common outside the lab. I know of only one case where it happened, and it was when stocking a lake. A "meanmouth" is a smallie father and largemouth female. The term was coined by a biologist observing the fish in controlled waters (lab pond) attacking humans and a dog. Spots and smallies are fairly common. I don't know why people call those "meanmouth" since that's a totally different fish.
FryDog62 reply :
Well, this is as close as I’ve gotten to an Orange Smallmouth. A 20 incher, with a pale underside and orange fins... caught yesterday on a tributary out of Mille Lacs. Maybe from all the rusty crayfish they eat??
Janderson45 reply :
Couple of weird looking smallies! @FryDog62- that’s a pretty crazy proportioned and colored fish... double whammy on that one.
Ive never caught any bass resembling orange, blue or white around here ????♂️. That said I have always found it pretty cool how you can catch both largemouth and smallmouth that have vastly different coloration or pigmentation, and when you take fired up smallies out of the livewell with those tiger stripes they look pretty awesome.
I used to be into tropical fish keeping as a hobby and kept a bunch of South American cichlid fish commonly called a “Discus” fish, I kept wild ones that were harvested in the Amazon river basins, when they were stressed out they would get very similar vertical bars to smallmouth. Smallmouth are related to South American cichlids if I’m remembering right, so that would make sense.
J.Vincent reply :
Been fishing for a lot of years and never seen a smallmouth look that orange....but I did catch a radioactive green bowfin during the spawn this past spring . Bizarre looking !
HeddonFrog reply :
On 10/30/2018 at 9:29 AM, Janderson45 said:Couple of weird looking smallies! @FryDog62- that’s a pretty crazy proportioned and colored fish... double whammy on that one.
Ive never caught any bass resembling orange, blue or white around here ????♂️. That said I have always found it pretty cool how you can catch both largemouth and smallmouth that have vastly different coloration or pigmentation, and when you take fired up smallies out of the livewell with those tiger stripes they look pretty awesome.
I used to be into tropical fish keeping as a hobby and kept a bunch of South American cichlid fish commonly called a “Discus” fish, I kept wild ones that were harvested in the Amazon river basins, when they were stressed out they would get very similar vertical bars to smallmouth. Smallmouth are related to South American cichlids if I’m remembering right, so that would make sense.
That would be incorrect. Cichlids are their own species. Smallmouth are in the sunfish family.
Totally getting off track here but I have often wondered if hundreds of thousands of years ago, maybe millions, if the grouper family and sunfish bass family spilt from the same family tree. You look at a Goliath grouper and it just looks like a huge Largemouth with smallmouth coloration. Now there...would be a cool cross...can’t you just imagine a 100lb Smallie/Goliath cross hitting a giant spook ????
soflabasser reply :
On 10/30/2018 at 9:29 AM, Janderson45 said:Smallmouth are related to South American cichlids if I’m remembering right, so that would make sense.
Smallmouth bass are a species of black bass and all black bass are in the sunfish family. An example of a fish in the cichlid family is the butterfly peacock bass.
On 10/30/2018 at 3:10 PM, HeddonFrog said:Totally getting off track here but I have often wondered if hundreds of thousands of years ago, maybe millions, if the grouper family and sunfish bass family spilt from the same family tree. You look at a Goliath grouper and it just looks like a huge Largemouth with smallmouth coloration. Now there...would be a cool cross...can’t you just imagine a 100lb Smallie/Goliath cross hitting a giant spook ????
The top and bottom fish are Goliath grouper and the middle fish is a black grouper. Have caught both species of fish and both are very fun to catch.
Janderson45 reply :
Yup, seems as if I was misinformed, just goes to show you can’t take everything you read on the internet as truth. I remember specifically reading that smallmouth are closely related to cichlids and largemouth are closely related to grouper which accounts for their difference in anatomy and behavior- I can see why someone would think that but doesn’t appear to be the case. Thanks for setting me straight!
Choporoz reply :
On 10/25/2018 at 11:23 PM, J Francho said:Leucistic, actually. Not albino. Check some of the pics on wiki. Pretty wild:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucism
Haven't caught any white fish yet, but I did see a leucistic cardinal on the lake a week ago. Bright white feathers. No pics....I was fishing....lol
Ratherbfishing reply :
On 8/30/2018 at 9:54 PM, J Francho said:It's pumpkin spice flavored smallie!
It is THAT time of year, after all.
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