Why Would Someone Do This? 2024
blongfishing reply :
What is this? Why would they do it? Finally got my boat in and I was riding and saw this.
blongfishing reply :
I'm talking about the PVC pipe or bars.
paleus reply :
Structure to attract fish would be my best guess.
Alonerankin2 reply :
Idk.. They got a bumper hanging off it... Maybe to pull up and load/ drop off people... Or?.... Maybe he could build it/ so he did, to impress his wife and mother in law.. Couldn't say....
Kevin22 reply :
Its so nobody fishes around their dock. I've seen it quite a few times. They don't want people throwing around their dock/boat so they install the bars.
I don't mean to stereotype but it usually happens around the really large houses with fancy pleasure boats on the docks. These are typically the same people that are known to yell at fishermen that are around their property.
Raul reply :
Don´t that look like a FLOATING dock ? 
, correct me if I´m wrong but I don´t think a floatring dock will ever have room underneath it to flip a bait underneath it, so it ain´t very smart to put those things to prevent somebody from fishing it.
Which can be done ( fihing under the dock ) , stickbaits and Ikas sink AWAY from you when you allow them to sink on a slack line and will dive under that crap he placed.
Kevin22 reply :
You seriously cannot see the gaps underneath between the floats? If you can't flip or skip into a 1' opening then you need to practice more.
Nice_Bass reply :
yeah...that is for sure not put up so people cannot fish the dock. Looks like something that other folks could be tied up next to for longer periods of time or a place when the waters fluctuating and they are out of town.
or just their shark cage....probably a shark cage.
jhoffman reply :
I agree with the no fishing theory. Ive seen guys come out of ten million dollar homes and yell at guys for fishing. One guy was giving another angler a bag of crap for fishing his dock. The guy just stood there and took it, but even though it wasnt me I couldnt keep my tongue tied. He said to the guy "We pay tens ouf thousands of dollars a year to have a dock on this lake and all you bass fisherman do is pound it all day long" I was close enough that it enraged me. I replied "Oh imagine that, a private dock on a public lake and you expect people not to fish around it. How about you go back inside your ten million dollar home and be thankful for what you have instead of throwing your status around like anyone cares!"
I cant stand people like that, I have it therefore I can say whatever I want to whomever I want. I wanted to fight that guy so bad after that and it wasnt even me he was talkn too.
On the flip side I can understand not wanting line under your dock to get in your motor. I really can, but to treat someone like youre better than them cause you have money will never fly with me. A simple system like above gets the point across. Heck where I live people fish ON THE RAMP.
Catch and Grease reply :
If its his dock and he doesn't want you fishing around then I don't think you should...
lmbfisherman reply :
If it is indeed to stop you from fishing the dock, it is a poor setup. Personally I'd probably put up some kind of mesh thing so that you wouldn't have so many gaps to fish it. Just from that picture, I see gaps where I can pitch and skip between the docks/pvc and fish it fine. Heck you can even go in between the boat and dock and corners. 
I do agree however, if I see someone near/on their dock I would ask permission if I can if not..then I'll move along. When they come running out and politely asked me as a human being not to do it, I'll leave too...If a guy came out yelling and spewing I'm better than you, I probably couldn't keep my mouth shut.
Montanaro reply :
You don't fish his dock. You fish the water under it...The water and the fish you pay every year to access.
jtharris3 reply :
On 7/15/2014 at 7:06 AM, Catch and Grease said:If its his dock and he doesn't want you fishing around then I don't think you should...
Wrong Einstein! The water belongs to the public! Just because someone puts a dock in doesn't give them exclusive rights to the water! Tax dollars are used to maintain the water, the public launches, and the fish in it. That makes it public!
Crappiebasser reply :
If it is too stop fishing I can relate to the guy. I have had countless jigs and weights bounced off the side of my boats and it's aggravating. Some people have no respect for others property and some are just delusional about their casting abilities. I had a guy trying to skip my floating dock a couple weeks ago and he actually hit my ski boat sitting 2 feet out of the water on a lift.
On the other side I posted a while back about a pier with band saw blades strung around it to cut fishing line. That's taking it too far IMO.
Kevin22 reply :
Crappiebasser, just hang a couple fish baskets off the side and lay an old zebco 33 on the dock. Any time I see a dock with any sign that the owner is a fisherman I will not fish it out of respect. If it has a ski boat and a jetski then its fair game.
K_Mac reply :
Fair game or not, if you were the guy having your property abused and damaged by inconsiderate fishermen you might soon come to the conclusion that all fishermen don't give a rip about anything other than catching fish. This is one of those things that get us all lumped together in the classic bubba stereotype. Some of us play by the rules and treat others with respect, and some of us are idiots. Like it or not we are sometimes judged by the behavior of the idiots. Find another dock to fish. Life is too short to worry about the little things.
J Francho reply :
It's to keep guests' boat from rubbing on the dock while moored on the side. People come up with all sorts of homemade contraptions for this.
When you see chicken wire going from the dock down under the water, rest assured that's a fishing deterrent. What you have here isn't.
everythingthatswims reply :
If I had a dock, I would probably enjoy finding lures hung on my dock to add to my arsenal. Some people go out of their way to prevent this though! I have people (owners of docks) tell me all sorts of made up laws about having to stay a certain distance away from a dock or you are trespassing.
CDMeyer reply :
The lake I fish it is practically a sin to cast near someone's dock, I think that is crazy it is not there water
J Francho reply :
Someone threatens me on the water, and I call the sheriff. A little video if the perp never hurts either.
STPC reply :
I'll start w/this: I am broke and don't own much of anything. I respect everyone and their property and if someone feels like their property is at risk of being damaged they can defend it how they see fit (to an extent). If someone asks you not to fish their dock, then have some respect and move on to the next. There is no need acting like a spoiled brat where everything is yours...just move on like a grown up and keep on fishing.
Catch and Grease reply :
On 7/15/2014 at 8:35 AM, jtharris3 said:Wrong Einstein! The water belongs to the public! Just because someone puts a dock in doesn't give them exclusive rights to the water! Tax dollars are used to maintain the water, the public launches, and the fish in it. That makes it public!
Sorry I have my own opinion man, I just think if a guy is paying a boatload of money to have a dock and he has a sign or asks you not to fish I wouldn't fish there.
Bankbeater reply :
On the sides but not on the back end. Could be something to keep the floats where they are during a storm.
Bluebasser86 reply :
Looks like extra rub rail protection to me. The folks that don't want people fishing around their docks usually have them better protected than Ft.Knox. I've seen ropes, wire fence, mesh netting, wires, all sorts of crap to keep people from fishing docks.
I think for me it all depends on how the person acts if they ask me not to fish their dock. Someone comes out and asks politely for me to not fish their dock, most likely I'll move on without another word. Someone comes out screaming at me to get away from their dock I may have to work it a little harder while we have a chat about personal and public property 
We're already seeing it so marina owners can run boats off for fishing around the docks on public bodies of water, probably just a matter of time before private individuals are allowed to do the same.
Lund Explorer reply :
Here we go again with the same old argument that anyone who parks their private property on a public body of water doesn't have the right to protect it against damage. Let's hope that the people professing this philosophy use the same logic when they discover that somebody ran into the side of their tow vehicle at the boat ramp!
Oh wait, that's different. There ain't no bass enjoying the shade under your Chevy!
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 7/15/2014 at 5:56 PM, Lund Explorer said:Here we go again with the same old argument that anyone who parks their private property on a public body of water doesn't have the right to protect it against damage. Let's hope that the people professing this philosophy use the same logic when they discover that somebody ran into the side of their tow vehicle at the boat ramp!
Oh wait, that's different. There ain't no bass enjoying the shade under your Chevy!
There's a big difference in that though. If someone is up bouncing their jig off the back of your docked boat or banging their boat into your dock trying to fish behind a lift or something then that's a problem. If I'm fishing the edges or off the front of a dock or in an open stall (I don't cast at docked boats) there really is nothing to complain about. That's like complaining about someone parking next to you in that parking lot. Kind of like buying a house next to a golf course then yelling at someone when their ball lands in your back yard.
K_Mac reply :
On 7/15/2014 at 6:01 PM, Bluebasser86 said:There's a big difference in that though. If someone is up bouncing their jig off the back of your docked boat or banging their boat into your dock trying to fish behind a lift or something then that's a problem. If I'm fishing the edges or off the front of a dock or in an open stall (I don't cast at docked boats) there really is nothing to complain about. That's like complaining about someone parking next to you in that parking lot. Kind of like buying a house next to a golf course then yelling at someone when their ball lands in your back yard.
You make a point. There are differences. The problem is once you've had your property damaged a few times you may not differentiate between the guy who is casting to the edge or the guy who just damaged something on your dock and is now climbing out of his boat on your property to retrieve his crankbait. Hitting a ball into a yard adjacent to a golf course does not give you the right to retrieve it, and does not mean you are not responsible for any damage done to private property.
It is not that these folks who own something that we can't or don't have special privileges or rights. They simply have the same rights as everyone else.
Lund Explorer reply :
On 7/15/2014 at 6:01 PM, Bluebasser86 said:There's a big difference in that though. If someone is up bouncing their jig off the back of your docked boat or banging their boat into your dock trying to fish behind a lift or something then that's a problem. If I'm fishing the edges or off the front of a dock or in an open stall (I don't cast at docked boats) there really is nothing to complain about. That's like complaining about someone parking next to you in that parking lot. Kind of like buying a house next to a golf course then yelling at someone when their ball lands in your back yard.
That IS the problem! You may say that you don't cast at boats, but the fact remains that there is a certain segment of the fishing fraternity that does so, and doesn't see it as a problem at all. As witnessed by other people's comments, it even seems that the wealthier the dock owner is, the less deserving they are of complaining about that damage.
Imagine the uproar if a dock owner bounced a jig off of some fiberglass rocket that came floating past their dock. Do we have to accept the fact that the boat is on public water? Probably not! How about if it was just some leaky old tin boat, or a pontoon? Is there a difference if your truck is dinged when its parked and you are on the lake, or when you are sitting in it?
The real truth is that just because you have your property sitting on public water or public asphalt, it doesn't give others the right to intentionally damage it. Yet that is exactly what happens on a lot of lakes, by a lot of fishermen who feel their right to fish overrides a property owner's right to keep that property sitting along the shoreline. When you see a dock owner that has put up barriers around or under his dock, you can rest assured that he has suffered the same kind of damage that the guy who parks sideways across two parking spots has.
J Francho reply :
Up here, putting in a dock is a privilege. It is not private property, and in fact by putting in a dock, you must also allow any boat safe harbor. Growing up, we had a pretty big dock, with a hoist, upper deck, and a second gangway. It was one "those docks" that extended out to 17' water, and had a weed line intersecting the middle. Never mind the three brush piles nearby, I have no idea how those got there. In my life I can pretty much count on one hand how many times there was stuff attached from a careless fisherman. No one really cared if a boat fished it, and most guys would either pass it up if anyone was there, or ask to fish it. If someone got hung up, they simply got out, retrieved their bait, or someone on the dock would help. No big deal, since they probably had a dock that we fished.
It's funny, one of these dock skipping barons introduced me to a Texas rigged worm and casting gear, when I asked how he got the baits through the weeds. Super nice guy, and I'm not sure he'll ever know how he changed a 12 year olds fishing forever, unlocking a while new world with the 5 minutes he spent, and the few baits he gave me.
People that rant and rave about their docks, and the water around them, and what is theirs and not yours… well, I feel sorry for them. They're missing out. Most people on there docks ask how the fishing is, some even invite you to cast for a big fish they saw under their dock. It's part of the culture of living on the water. Maybe it's a northern thing, with our short summers, to just enjoy things as they are. It's not like docks are littered with line and baits, or boats all dented or scratched.
Treat others as you'd like to be treated. Pass by the one in a thousand that thinks they're dock is so special, it deserves a barbed wire fence around it.
I'll just finish by reiterating, the original picture depicts something built for mooring boats, not to prevent fishing.
Alonerankin2 reply :
I don't own a dock on public waters, however if I did, if I ever, ever, felt so threatened by fisherman, that I had to find ways to run chicken wire, barbed wire, chain link fence, or any other method of undermining a fisherman? I would build a cabin in Alaska, and watch it snow.
scbassin reply :
I think Bankbeater has it right. It's to defuse the rough water during a storm . It helps keeping the boat from getting so beat up during a storm. I have seen these things before.
EmersonFish reply :
I'm not sure what those are for. Still plenty of area to fish. If anything, I'd be more prone to fish that dock, assuming some algae had accumulated on those pipes, attracting some baitfish, and on from there.
As far as the comparing a lake to a parking lot idea; that isn't quite a direct comparison. That would be a more direct example if one could build a permanent structure on a public parking lot. When you put a structure on public land, you are taking up that space, and in some way, making it your own. That is a privilege. With that privilege comes an expectation that people will be fishing around it, throwing a wake toward it, etc... If someone damages your property, uses it without your consent, etc.; you have legal recourse, whether that property sits on private or public land.
The question is how far can one go to limit the public's access to the public water in order to protect their property? Putting up chicken wire on their own dock? Probably fine. Confronting me because I'm fishing the perimeter of your dock. Perhaps legal, but I don't recommend it.
It's unfortunate that some fishermen are irresponsible and give us all a bad name. It's unfortunate that some homeowners, regardless of income, are jerks. But my car, in those parking lots that were mentioned, gets dinged and scratched all the time. I never get an apology or anyone's insurance information. It just comes with the territory. If I caught a guy doing significant damage; I'd want him to make it right. If I did damage to someone else; I'd want to make it right. Everyone should be that way.
In any case, if I couldn't fish private docks, that would be inconvenient. The closest lake to me is Lake of the Ozarks.
VAHunter reply :
On 7/16/2014 at 12:20 AM, Daniel Emerson said:In any case, if I couldn't fish private docks, that would be inconvenient. The closest lake to me is Lake of the Ozarks.
Yeah, that would be inconvenient to say the least. I've seen this topic brought up an untold number of times on many sites. The bottom line in my opinion, there are just as many inconsiderate land/dock owners as there are fishermen. Personally, I don't have an issue when a person asks me not to fish their dock. However, I won't budge for one who comes shooting out the door while screaming at me. I never raise my voice, but I tell them that I have a valid state fishing license and "his/her" dock is on public water. If they want to escalate and call the authorities I offer to make the call for them and then wait until the LEO shows up.
jtharris3 reply :
On 7/15/2014 at 12:11 PM, Catch and Grease said:Sorry I have my own opinion man, I just think if a guy is paying a boatload of money to have a dock and he has a sign or asks you not to fish I wouldn't fish there.
Your opinion doesn't trump what the law says. I also don't fish docks in a way that would have my lure hit their boat if one is parked at their dock. To do so, I feel that is disrespectful and sheds a bad light on fishermen. I respect people's property and would not trespass but, as I said in my previous post the water is public property so it's fair game. The property owner has NO claim to it. I'll not allow someone to push me around just because they "think" they have a right to! In that case they can go pound sand!
PersicoTrotaVA reply :
It looks like something to hang bumpers off of for visiting boats...
If I ever saw someone bouncing a jig off of someone's boat, I'd smack them or their boat with a jig. Respect other people and their property, even if it is parked on public waters. We have laws that protect our cars when they are parked on the streets or in parking lots, its the same thing for a boat parked on a dock on public water. As long as you are respectful I don't see a problem with fishing docks.
iabass8 reply :
On 7/15/2014 at 5:39 PM, Bluebasser86 said:
I think for me it all depends on how the person acts if they ask me not to fish their dock. Someone comes out and asks politely for me to not fish their dock, most likely I'll move on without another word. Someone comes out screaming at me to get away from their dock I may have to work it a little harder while we have a chat about personal and public property
We're already seeing it so marina owners can run boats off for fishing around the docks on public bodies of water, probably just a matter of time before private individuals are allowed to do the same.
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If somebody comes out and asks me politely to not fish their dock, no questions asked, I won't. I also won't fish a dock if people are hanging out on it unless they ask me to fish it for "that bigun'" that they just saw. It's so, so rare for anybody around here or further up river to come out screaming. I can count on one hand how many times its happened.
Catch and Grease reply :
On 7/16/2014 at 5:15 AM, jtharris3 said:Your opinion doesn't trump what the law says. I also don't fish docks in a way that would have my lure hit their boat if one is parked at their dock. To do so, I feel that is disrespectful and sheds a bad light on fishermen. I respect people's property and would not trespass but, as I said in my previous post the water is public property so it's fair game. The property owner has NO claim to it. I'll not allow someone to push me around just because they "think" they have a right to! In that case they can go pound sand!
Brother... I said I wouldn't fish there, let me repeat that, I wouldn't fish there.
I can do whatever I want if I don't want to fish the dock I don't have to? If you want to go ahead? But if a guy comes out and calmly asks you to stop fishing the dock and move along and you don't listen and continue to fish then that's on you.
If someone politely asks me to do something I'll do it even if I don't have too. Sometimes its just good manners, they may have had someone damage their dock so they are being more safe than sorry and asking all fishermen to stop fishing their dock.
Code54 reply :
On 7/15/2014 at 11:06 AM, J Francho said:It's to keep guests' boat from rubbing on the dock while moored on the side. People come up with all sorts of homemade contraptions for this.
When you see chicken wire going from the dock down under the water, rest assured that's a fishing deterrent. What you have here isn't.
Exactly - just gives a little buffer space and the PVC does not hurt the guest boats.
As for fishing a dock that someone does not want me to fish - no problem. Plenty of other places and not really worth the hassle to me.
Nice_Bass reply :
On 7/16/2014 at 5:15 AM, jtharris3 said:Your opinion doesn't trump what the law says. I also don't fish docks in a way that would have my lure hit their boat if one is parked at their dock. To do so, I feel that is disrespectful and sheds a bad light on fishermen. I respect people's property and would not trespass but, as I said in my previous post the water is public property so it's fair game. The property owner has NO claim to it. I'll not allow someone to push me around just because they "think" they have a right to! In that case they can go pound sand!
I have fished docks a long time and can admit I have hit a boat and consider myself pretty good...are you sure you have never fished one that could cause you to do that? Are you sure you never have? Cant say the same about myself.
Obviously though...this is for a boat along the side regarding original post topic
J Francho reply :
There's no point in arguing about your dock morals on an Internet forum. It has no bearing on the original question.
jtharris3 reply :
On 7/16/2014 at 9:55 AM, Nice_Bass said:I have fished docks a long time and can admit I have hit a boat and consider myself pretty good...are you sure you have never fished one that could cause you to do that? Are you sure you never have? Cant say the same about myself.
Obviously though...this is for a boat along the side regarding original post topic
Nope, never hit anyone's boat. Not because "I'm that good", but because I just don't throw toward the area where the boat is. Pretty simple really.
J Francho reply :
Look like this has run it's course.
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