What are your guys' favorite things to throw when the fish are spawning on the beds?
A 7.5 inch culprit fire and ice color worm. Call me silly but a 1/2 of a live nightcrawler on a small strong hook is unbeatable when they wont bite nothing else.
Watermelon Neon
I leave them alone i wouldnt like it if someone came into my bedroom and pulled me off the wife i just try to show them the same respect
Not to be a total arrogant, and/or pompous ***, but you are F.O.S. stratos... Some of the best fishing is around spawning time... Chances of getting a larger fish, any other time, is slim/nill. You better get to trout fishing, bro! I have gotten a decent lady off of a 5" Berkeley Beast in watermelon. http://www.berkley-f...PURMPBE5-WM.jpg
I think it was more irritating to the fish, than an attractant... They are pretty heavy, so no real need to run it on a jig, but I was running it on a 1/4oz jig head... I was given the bait by a friend, already rigged, so I just ran with it... Worked very well! Got a lot of hits off of it, before, and after that fish...
QuoteI leave them alone i wouldnt like it if someone came into my bedroom and pulled me off the wife i just try to show them the same respect
a) they don't have intercourse
fish aren't the same as humans. If you try to show them "the same respect" in reproduciton, why don't you do the same in general? If you go by your logic of treating them like you would a human, I would hope you wouldn't be trying to get them to bite a hook either... :-?
I like to through a wacky style 4 inch yum dinger. Or a 4-inch worm shakey head style. Both in watermelon color
fat ika baby!!
I do not fish for bass on their beds. I believe and have seen that when you pull a female off of her bed the sunfish go in and eat up the eggs. This is my opinion and what I choose to do. What anyone else does is purely up to them.
I fish an area where I can see the fish clearly, no more than 4 feet down, 3 in some places. I make sure that there are no sun fish around, then I catch. The male bass are normally what I am after. You can see them fighting in the water, but never catch them... Strangest thing. I think this season, I have caught 1 male... And he was 2lbs... I know that females are much larger, but I am not really into removing a female from her bed...
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"a) they don't have intercourse
fish aren't the same as humans. If you try to show them "the same respect" in reproduciton, why don't you do the same in general? If you go by your logic of treating them like you would a human, I would hope you wouldn't be trying to get them to bite a hook either... "
Sounds like a lot of you guys don't fish the spawning period. you are doing a good job at making me feel like crap! Especially this guy!!!!!!
QuoteI fish an area where I can see the fish clearly, no more than 4 feet down, 3 in some places. I make sure that there are no sun fish around, then I catch. The male bass are normally what I am after. You can see them fighting in the water, but never catch them...
just wondering how you tell the males apart. i have talked to state biologists and read articles about this and what i have been told is the only way to tell is by disecting them...that there are no markings or external genitals by which to tell
and how do you tell they are fighting, just like chasing each around? is that what gives them away?
The male, is respectively smaller, and usually lives less long than the female. They usually ram each other, and try to kill each other, which ends up in chasing... And the female has a much rounder stomach area, where as the male is relatively stream lined. I have studied them a lot. I used to think that you couldn't tell, either. But there are a lot of differences...
QuoteQuotez:
"a) they don't have intercourse
fish aren't the same as humans. If you try to show them "the same respect" in reproduciton, why don't you do the same in general? If you go by your logic of treating them like you would a human, I would hope you wouldn't be trying to get them to bite a hook either... "
Sounds like a lot of you guys don't fish the spawning period. you are doing a good job at making me feel like crap! Especially this guy!!!!!!
I'm sorry man, I don't mean to make you feel like crap, your argument just doesn't make sense to me though. If you don't want to fish for spawners because you think it makes the eggs vulnerable, then by all means, don't spawn fish, that's perfectly fine by me. But the argument you made came off a bit like something PETA would say to me, that's all.
I'm sorry if I made you feel bad, I should be more welcoming of new members.
PETA hates B.A.S.S.! They think that it's cruel to hook a fish through the lip, just for sport. It's wrong to catch them, then eat them also! I swear, PETA wastes time, and money BSing their opinions! lol
I kind of feel guilty about pulling in fish when they are on bed,but I always try to get them back in the water ASAP.As for PETA.Well,I guess the more active members can't find a new reality TV show on that they can relate to!Reality shows?We don't see it everyday?OK rant over.GO FISH!!!!!!
I think you have to weigh the odds.
First= I don't plan on keeping the fish, If its lucky It will only be out of the water long enough to pose for a picture and then right back in.
Second= if the place where I'm fishing has produced good fish for years I think It wont really hurt the fish to loose a few eggs due to my short lived catch. What are the chances that if they make it to fingerling size they wont end up food anyways.
I don't go out and target bedding fish, If there bedding while I'm fishing than let the hunt begin. I don't keep or kill fish but at this point I drop the sensitivity. I know I'll probably hear the "What If's".
P.E.T.A. They actually put down some of the dogs they save. and the Vice Prez is dependant on a certain drug that used animal testing during it's development. I seen it on a investigative show. John Stossel 20/20.
http://www.nfss.org/Legis/Peta-AA/pet-5.html
sorry if you don't like my view.
QuoteI do not fish for bass on their beds. I believe and have seen that when you pull a female off of her bed the sunfish go in and eat up the eggs. This is my opinion and what I choose to do. What anyone else does is purely up to them.
A Men If I had my way they would close the season during the spawn. It is not hard to catch a bedding fish
QuoteI think you have to weigh the odds.First= I don't plan on keeping the fish, If its lucky It will only be out of the water long enough to pose for a picture and then right back in.
Second= if the place where I'm fishing has produced good fish for years I think It wont really hurt the fish to loose a few eggs due to my short lived catch. What are the chances that if they make it to fingerling size they wont end up food anyways.
I don't go out and target bedding fish, If there bedding while I'm fishing than let the hunt begin. I don't keep or kill fish but at this point I drop the sensitivity. I know I'll probably hear the "What If's".
P.E.T.A. They actually put down some of the dogs they save. and the Vice Prez is dependant on a certain drug that used animal testing during it's development. I seen it on a investigative show. John Stossel 20/20.
http://www.nfss.org/...a-AA/pet-5.html
sorry if you don't like my view.
I totally agree with you! If the egg ends up hatching later on, and it isn't a dud, it will end up getting eaten more times than not! They are an easy pray, as they are much smaller, and not nearly as fast! PETA is BS, they are a contradiction! If you don't eat meat, you get sick, you need the proteins. I mean crap! The fish also helps your mind... Which is why PETA activists are such morons! I bet more than 85% of them, have, or will have eaten a steak in their lives! Contradictory organizations tick me off! They are such hypocrites! If they want to complain about anything, they can complain about animal tested crap, lay off the fisherman! It's a hobby, a sport, something to keep us occupied...
Would they rather you spend your time shooting animals, or testing cosmetics on them? Crap! Morons, pure and simple!
I feel sorry for a fish Biologist that cant tell a male from female.... Sexual Dimorphism(sp?) i believe it is called, female is much larger than male. Its the same with many other animals. Alot of birds i know for sure.
Also, the female, fans the bed out and lays eggs and leaves basically. The male then fertlizes the eggs and guards them until they are a certain size. So only fishing for males contributes more predation than catching females. Really what we see/catch is just a small sample of the fish spawning. Most of the fish that are spawning shallow are smaller fish. The bigger females lay their eggs in deeper water. So bedfishing isnt much of a threat to bass reproduction. Alot of fish spawn more than once a year also. The big females are never sitting there defending the eggs, it just doesnt happen like that. Most males are not big enough on average to worry about weighing in. So dont worry what the fish-huggers on here tell you.
So no worries. Spawning fish may be shallow, but they are not easy to catch....
Agreed. I would rather have a female, than a male, any day! I always know, from the fight, which is which... The male is darting a lot more, and usually doesn't need the drag on my spinning reel set any higher than 5-8. A female, is much more lethargic in the water, but she pulls harder, due to her size! In a day, I caught a female of 4-6, she pulled hard, and about snapped my ultra light pole, (wasn't bass fishing, was pan fishing, just happened that she was hungry for what I had on the menu!) later I caught several males, which all weighed in the low 2lb range, but they darted fast along the water.
I find little things that can determine a male from a female also. I don't know if both the male and female have it, but I noticed a couple females were releasing a blood mixture from their reproductive duct just behind their lower fin. That is a good indication that they were female, and that they had just laid eggs. The other fish I had caught, I didn't notice any hole like that, in that region... Could this be an indication that they do have some way of telling, whether or not a fish is male of female?
QuoteNot to be a total arrogant, and/or pompous ***, but you are F.O.S. stratos... Some of the best fishing is around spawning time... Chances of getting a larger fish, any other time, is slim/nill. You better get to trout fishing, bro! I have gotten a decent lady off of a 5" Berkeley Beast in watermelon. http://www.berkley-f...PURMPBE5-WM.jpgI think it was more irritating to the fish, than an attractant... They are pretty heavy, so no real need to run it on a jig, but I was running it on a 1/4oz jig head... I was given the bait by a friend, already rigged, so I just ran with it... Worked very well! Got a lot of hits off of it, before, and after that fish...
Some of us just choose not to fish during the spawn Ontario has chosen not to open the season until after the spawn witch i think is unreasonable it should be a personal choice And there is some good fishing before they spawn.That being said i didnt mean to offend any one and as far as being F.O.S. that very well may be true but i just choose to fish Muskies at that time and we hold no tournaments for 6 weeks to let them spawn in peace.And yes i realize that fish do not have intercourse i was just trying to be funny guess it was not sorry it wont happen again
I fish during the spawn and will attempt to find beds to fish. Yes I know the eggs can be eaten by gills if you pull the fish off the bed but here in NJ its not often you see 5-6lb fish hanging out 2-3 feet off shore. So when I do see them I certainly don't turn my back. Sorry its just too good to pass up. 5-6 lber sittin there and im suppose to just move on and not bother it?!? I don't friggin think so..
QuoteQuoteNot to be a total arrogant, and/or pompous ***, but you are F.O.S. stratos... Some of the best fishing is around spawning time... Chances of getting a larger fish, any other time, is slim/nill. You better get to trout fishing, bro! I have gotten a decent lady off of a 5" Berkeley Beast in watermelon. http://www.berkley-f...PURMPBE5-WM.jpgI think it was more irritating to the fish, than an attractant... They are pretty heavy, so no real need to run it on a jig, but I was running it on a 1/4oz jig head... I was given the bait by a friend, already rigged, so I just ran with it... Worked very well! Got a lot of hits off of it, before, and after that fish...
Some of us just choose not to fish during the spawn Ontario has chosen not to open the season until after the spawn witch i think is unreasonable it should be a personal choice And there is some good fishing before they spawn.That being said i didnt mean to offend any one and as far as being F.O.S. that very well may be true but i just choose to fish Muskies at that time and we hold no tournaments for 6 weeks to let them spawn in peace.And yes i realize that fish do not have intercourse i was just trying to be funny guess it was not sorry it wont happen again
It's all good. I didn't mean to offend, you just sounded like a fish hugger... lol It's all good, muskie sound like fun, none the less! I wish we had there around here, but we got clear lakes, (also the name of our lake here in Lake County, California) and big bass, so it's all good!
Quotefemales were releasing a blood mixture from their reproductive duct
Well, that is how it works in humans at least...
there is no way you can tell whether the fish is a male or female unless you see them both on the bed and one is much larger or if the fish is very large. sure when you catch an 8 pounder its a female but when you catch a 2-3 lber there is no way to know whether it is a male or female.
i love fishing for bedding bass, i immediately release them and often they shoot right back to their beds.
matt
I like finding fish on the spawning beds. It means I can go to deeper water adjacent to the bedding area, and find very active fish. I leave the ones on the beds alone. That's just my preference. Targeting bedding fish has never been a high percentage game for me. I do much better out just a bit deeper. The first good drop next to the beds is a great first place to try. Not all the fish are spawning at the same time. The pre-spawners are very active, and will chase down just about anything you can get down to 8 or 10 feet, and put in front of them.
Cheers,
GK