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line hanging up on bail 2025


fishing user avatarMDRookie reply : 

after casting... 8 out of 10 times my line gets hung up.. as shown in the picture. It will stay there during retrieve. Any suggestions on how to rectify this problem? 

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fishing user avatarThe Bassman reply : 

I've  had the exact problem on one of my Shimano spinners but not the others.  I've come to the conclusion that it's something related to my simultaneous casting and manual bail closing that doesn't give the line a chance to get to the roller.  It happens with lures like buzz baits that have to get moving right away.  Why one reel and not another........who knows?  As far as solutions you feel it immediately and have to flick it in place with your finger.  A real PITA.


fishing user avatarOkobojiEagle reply : 
  On 12/8/2016 at 1:14 AM, MDRookie said:

 It will stay there during retrieve. Any suggestions on how to rectify this problem? 

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I'd consider it a design flaw and exchange it for a different model reel...

 

oe


fishing user avatarMDRookie reply : 

I have a Sedona 500fd that I fish the same way and it doesn't get hung up. Also have two Sedona 1000fe and no problem. I always manually close the bail.. I don't see a discernible difference from my other reels...

  On 12/8/2016 at 2:03 AM, OkobojiEagle said:

I'd consider it a design flaw and exchange it for a different model reel...

 

oe

Thanks.  It's not exchangeable 


fishing user avatarBrackishBassin reply : 

If you're closing your bail manually and making sure the line is tight on the spool before starting your retrieve (both of which help with line twist), it shouldn't be an issue. If you don't have that habit, I can see where that would be annoying as hell.


fishing user avatarKDW96 reply : 

Thats a manufacter issue. I just looked at mine, and it is very smooth.

Yours has a definate slight lip, or edge to it.


fishing user avatarMDRookie reply : 
  On 12/8/2016 at 8:58 AM, KDW96 said:

Thats a manufacter issue. I just looked at mine, and it is very smooth.

Yours has a definate slight lip, or edge to it.

I believe so... we blew up the high resolution picture and discovered it has a little divot as well. I'm going to attempt to file/sand it down or maybe epoxy/jb weld. If that doesn't work.. order a new bail assembly. Thanks


fishing user avatarfishnkamp reply : 

Is that a reel from Bass Pro? If so I would contact them, they are very good with manufacturer defects and warranties.


fishing user avatarMDRookie reply : 

Hi Bob.. no it's not from bass pro... thank you tho. I really love this real besides this issue... more so than the 1000fe models, So.. hopefully I can get it squared away!


fishing user avatarfishnkamp reply : 

Contact Shimano directly, maybe they had an issue and will step up for you.  They have always had a good reputation for customer service.


fishing user avatarMDRookie reply : 

okay.. thank you


fishing user avatarScott F reply : 
  On 12/8/2016 at 11:40 AM, MDRookie said:

I believe so... we blew up the high resolution picture and discovered it has a little divot as well. I'm going to attempt to file/sand it down or maybe epoxy/jb weld. If that doesn't work.. order a new bail assembly. Thanks

I had a Quantum that had the same problem. I built up the area with epoxy, filed it smooth and never had another problem.


fishing user avatarKDW96 reply : 
  On 12/8/2016 at 11:40 AM, MDRookie said:

I believe so... we blew up the high resolution picture and discovered it has a little divot as well. I'm going to attempt to file/sand it down or maybe epoxy/jb weld. If that doesn't work.. order a new bail assembly. Thanks

I would start buy using epoxy first. Using any file on it will leave burs, no matter how fine the file is. Which likely will nick line. Hope it works out for you,good luck :)


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

You can contact Shimano - it's under warranty.  I generally flip the bail manually and set the line in the roller, all at once, so I would never notice this issue.


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Never had that happen. I would think small diameter braid may be more prone to hanging up on the bail wire as shown in the photo, the line looks like FC or mono. Try lubricating the line using a conditioner TangleFree, should help to slide over the bail wire onto the roller.

I think it is a design error or flaw on this particular reel.

Contact Shimano and send them the photo.

Tom


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 12/8/2016 at 7:46 AM, BrackishBassin said:

If you're closing your bail manually and making sure the line is tight on the spool before starting your retrieve (both of which help with line twist), it shouldn't be an issue. If you don't have that habit, I can see where that would be annoying as hell.

This  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A Manual Bail close is a Must.  

A-Jay


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 
  On 12/9/2016 at 12:29 AM, A-Jay said:

This  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A Manual Bail close is a Must.  

A-Jay

The OP stated that he always manually closes the bail.

Tom


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 
  On 12/9/2016 at 12:38 AM, WRB said:

The OP stated that he always manually closes the bail.

But he's not re-seating the line.

Here's a youtube video showing it all in one action, first few seconds.

 


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 12/9/2016 at 12:38 AM, WRB said:

The OP stated that he always manually closes the bail.

Tom

OK - Guess I miss that. 

Either way, I stand by my original response that the manual bail close is a must.

Additionally, in my own fishing, I don't see how the line could catch at that spot on the bail (or any where for that matter) unless I was using reel handle engagement to flip the bail.

Just saying.

A-Jay


fishing user avatarJeff H reply : 

Wow!  Yeah, that's perfectly acceptable???  So if that was even bigger edge it would still be ok?


fishing user avatarBill B. reply : 

You can cut off the bail wire, if you are accustomed to working the bail manually. I used to do that with my spinning reels years ago, when they were not as refined as they are today.


fishing user avatarRed Bear reply : 

you can rectify it by trashing it and buying a pflueger :lol: on a serious note, you shimano guys are always having problems with your reels...


fishing user avatarMDRookie reply : 

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  On 12/9/2016 at 12:43 AM, A-Jay said:

OK - Guess I miss that. 

Either way, I stand by my original response that the manual bail close is a must.

Additionally, in my own fishing, I don't see how the line could catch at that spot on the bail (or any where for that matter) unless I was using reel handle engagement to flip the bail.

Just saying.

A-Jay

Like I said above.. I manually flip bail.. not using the handle. I do not believe it's anything I'm doing. I have 6 other spinning reels that I do not have any issues with!!!


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 12/9/2016 at 6:31 AM, MDRookie said:

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Like I said above.. I manually flip bail.. not using the handle. I do not believe it's anything I'm doing. I have 6 other spinning reels that I do not have any issues with!!!

Pictures tell the story !!! - I guess I'd take a file to that bad boy in an effort to eliminate or at least drastically reduce that "catch point".

If that didn't work and I was in the right mood - I may very well "Float Test" the darn thing - might even go for a distance record if you catch my drift . . .Splash .

Good Luck.

A-Jay


fishing user avatarQUAKEnSHAKE reply : 

Looks goofed

shimano sells that part    #12843--    $13.35

http://fish.shimano.com/content/sac-fish/en/home/products/fishing-reels/spinning/sedona.html


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 12/9/2016 at 2:17 AM, Bill B. said:

You can cut off the bail wire, if you are accustomed to working the bail manually. I used to do that with my spinning reels years ago, when they were not as refined as they are today.

Every surf casting spinner I've ever owned was without fail without bail.

:smiley:

A-Jay


fishing user avatarMDRookie reply : 
  On 12/9/2016 at 6:40 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

Looks goofed

shimano sells that part    #12843--    $13.35

http://fish.shimano.com/content/sac-fish/en/home/products/fishing-reels/spinning/sedona.html

Yeah.. I'm going to try and fix it first.. nothin to lose


fishing user avatarfishwizzard reply : 

Hey OP, if you do decide to get rid of it, I will buy/trade you for it.  I have been wanting to try a bailwire-less reel for a while now and could use another small reel for my perch/pickerel arsenal.  


fishing user avatarMDRookie reply : 
  On 12/9/2016 at 6:48 AM, Bunnielab said:

Hey OP, if you do decide to get rid of it, I will buy/trade you for it.  I have been wanting to try a bailwire-less reel for a while now and could use another small reel for my perch/pickerel arsenal.  

Appreciate the offer but I'll get it fixed.. besides this slight issue.. this reel is sweet!




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