Okuma TCS Scott Martin Rods 2024
Tyler Frye reply :
Looking at buying some okuma TCS Rods. I’ve heard some good and some bad about them and am looking for opinions of those who own them and have experience with them. Thanks in advance
J Francho reply :
I have two, the Mat Daddy and a spinnerbait version. I like them quite a bit, and use them often. Here's a review:
https://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/mat-daddy-helios-review.html
Choporoz reply :
I have a Mat Daddy. About the sensitivity you would expect from a 7'11" heavy rod. I have no complaints, but it is relegated to punching, c-rigging, and rare (for me) swimbait...it doesn't get a ton of use.
Glenn reply :
I also have two, the Mat Daddy and the Jig rod. I use one or the other almost every outing for the past 3 years. Here's my review:
https://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/tcs-cerros-reel.html
https://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/okuma-tcs-rod.html
Bluebasser86 reply :
Great rods and you can get them for a steal if you look around a little bit.
DomQ reply :
I heard scott it leaving okuma for favorite fishing.
BigBass'n_Harrison reply :
On 3/11/2019 at 6:55 AM, DomQ said:I heard scott it leaving okuma for favorite fishing.
Yeah he already did, not sure how I feel about that. Worse gear, but better popularity and exposure for him.
I like your profile pic btw, rip LP.
Oh and about the rod, I have the 7'3" H/F frog/swimbait rod. Does both of those very well and imo it has pretty good sensitivity and makes a decent jig rod.
DomQ reply :
On 3/11/2019 at 7:25 AM, BigBass'n_Harrison said:Yeah he already did, not sure how I feel about that. Worse gear, but better popularity and exposure for him.
I like your profile pic btw, rip LP.
Oh and about the rod, I have the 7'3" H/F frog/swimbait rod. Does both of those very well and imo it has pretty good sensitivity and makes a decent jig rod.
Ya that was my reaction when I heard he left to.
Also thanks for the like buddy!! RIP:(
I just picked up the 7'11 hvy and it feels awesome, I also have the 7 med hvy and love it.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/11/2019 at 6:55 AM, DomQ said:I heard scott it leaving okuma for favorite fishing.
Okuma just went through a pretty good overhaul with their split from Savage Gear. Maybe he didn't jive with someone there now. Other than the added exposure, a very questionable move as it's a huge step down in the quality of gear.
BigBass'n_Harrison reply :
On 3/11/2019 at 8:55 AM, Bluebasser86 said:Okuma just went through a pretty good overhaul with their split from Savage Gear. Maybe he didn't jive with someone there now. Other than the added exposure, a very questionable move as it's a huge step down in the quality of gear.
Yeah I agree. I’m hoping with him leaving Okuma though, that his rods go on clearance. I will gladly pick up a few on clearance.
newyorktoiowa57 reply :
I'm not sure that the favorite gear is worse. He is fishing with the higher end stuff in the 200-250 range like the big sexy and rush rods. He has also been using Metaniums, although he is not sponsored by Shimano.
DomQ reply :
In canada favorite rods arent even a thing here yet so i cant really comment on the quality of the rods. But are their high end rods really worth the money?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/11/2019 at 5:51 PM, DomQ said:In canada favorite rods arent even a thing here yet so i cant really comment on the quality of the rods. But are their high end rods really worth the money?
I haven't fished their high end rods, but their other rods I've fished were underwhelming at best.
They're so hard to read reviews on, because I'm positive a lot of them come from kids you could put guides on a straight tree branch and say it was from Favorite and they'd say it was the greatest rod ever made. The ones I've heard that were actually from guys that had fished them said sensitivity was poor for a supposedly high end rod, about on par with a $100 rod, they were heavy, and disappointing as a whole. That's only a handful of reviews though, so far from what I'd consider a real fair assessment, but considering a TCS can be had for around $100 with just a little looking, there's no way I'd buy one over the Okuma.
Diggy reply :
On 3/11/2019 at 12:03 PM, newyorktoiowa57 said:I'm not sure that the favorite gear is worse. He is fishing with the higher end stuff in the 200-250 range like the big sexy and rush rods. He has also been using Metaniums, although he is not sponsored by Shimano.
I def want to pick up some of the TCS rods. The pricing is great when looking around and they work well for the areas I fish based on tons of feedback and watching the old SM videos. I do hope they clear them out too at some point to save some coin.
About Favorite:
I have been going by what people have been saying for the most part with no experience online fishing the equipment myself. I have zero experience fishing them.
My buddy has been fishing the $99 dollar Flair 7'3" XH Flair Frog Rod and the 7'3" XH Big Sexy. They are both set up for bigger baits. Based on the baits being used, these are the size of fish he's been catching on average or bigger almost daily, many times in multiples. I currently try to go to the spot with him at least 1 to 2x a week if possible, it's just a drive for me. I will see how they hold up for him, but they have been good so far. We've been fishing in places with pads and super heavy vegetation, the definition of "Florida" fishing and he's been pulling them outta there.
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newyorktoiowa57 reply :
On 3/11/2019 at 7:30 PM, Diggy said:I def want to pick up some of the TCS rods. The pricing is great when looking around and they work well for the areas I fish based on tons of feedback and watching the old SM videos. I do hope they clear them out too at some point to save some coin.
About Favorite:
I have been going by what people have been saying for the most part with no experience online fishing the equipment myself. I have zero experience fishing them.
My buddy has been fishing the $99 dollar Flair 7'3" XH Flair Frog Rod and the 7'3" XH Big Sexy. They are both set up for bigger baits. Based on the baits being used, these are the size of fish he's been catching on average or bigger almost daily, many times in multiples. I currently try to go to the spot with him at least 1 to 2x a week if possible, it's just a drive for me. I will see how they hold up for him, but they have been good so far. We've been fishing in places with pads and super heavy vegetation, the definition of "Florida" fishing and he's been pulling them outta there.
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I have 2 TCS rods. The 691MH and the 701H, The 691 is an awesome spinnerbait rod(3/8 is what I exclusivesly throw), but my 701H broke and now the insert has fallen off the top guide on the replacement. They are good rods though. Much nicer than a dobyns fury IMO.
EGbassing reply :
On 3/11/2019 at 6:09 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I haven't fished their high end rods, but their other rods I've fished were underwhelming at best.
They're so hard to read reviews on, because I'm positive a lot of them come from kids you could put guides on a straight tree branch and say it was from Favorite and they'd say it was the greatest rod ever made. The ones I've heard that were actually from guys that had fished them said sensitivity was poor for a supposedly high end rod, about on par with a $100 rod, they were heavy, and disappointing as a whole. That's only a handful of reviews though, so far from what I'd consider a real fair assessment, but considering a TCS can be had for around $100 with just a little looking, there's no way I'd buy one over the Okuma.
I had white bird that I did everything with for a long time. I don't really remember if it was sensitive or balanced or anything but it was indestructible.
Joshua van Wyk reply :
On 3/11/2019 at 12:03 PM, newyorktoiowa57 said:I'm not sure that the favorite gear is worse. He is fishing with the higher end stuff in the 200-250 range like the big sexy and rush rods. He has also been using Metaniums, although he is not sponsored by Shimano.
I agree, the reels hes using now
are definetly uprgades, not sure about the rods though.
jtharris3 reply :
Not trying to derail this thread but, God, I hope Scott doesn’t align himself with Favorite!!
J Francho reply :
Pretty sure he's invested in Favorite. It's more than a sponsorship deal.
punch reply :
On 3/12/2019 at 9:36 AM, jtharris3 said:Not trying to derail this thread but, God, I hope Scott doesn’t align himself with Favorite!!
He already has.
I'm going to assume there will be a Scott Martin series of Favorite rods next year.
Favorite also has Dustin Connell, Mark Daniels Jr, Brian Latimer and some guy named Andy Morgan.
Impressive bullpen.
BigBass'n_Harrison reply :
On 3/13/2019 at 3:25 AM, punch said:He already has.
I'm going to assume there will be a Scott Martin series of Favorite rods next year.
Favorite also has Dustin Connell, Mark Daniels Jr, Brian Latimer and some guy named Andy Morgan.
Impressive bullpen.
Scott Martin’s rod is the only one I’d be willing to try from favorite, especially if he’s using them in tournaments and stuff and they clearly work well. And if he was part of the developing process of it then it would probably be a pretty good rod.
jtharris3 reply :
On 3/13/2019 at 3:25 AM, punch said:He already has.
I'm going to assume there will be a Scott Martin series of Favorite rods next year.
Favorite also has Dustin Connell, Mark Daniels Jr, Brian Latimer and some guy named Andy Morgan.
Impressive bullpen.
That is certainly impressive. Hopefully the influence of those guys will help Favorite up their game.
DomQ reply :
If you follow favorite on Instagram you'll see they they are working on new reels, and to be honest they look ridiculous. They look like those cheap reels that you see on like wish. Not bashing them but they dont look like something I'm going to fork out large money on.
punch reply :
On 3/14/2019 at 7:37 AM, DomQ said:If you follow favorite on Instagram you'll see they they are working on new reels, and to be honest they look ridiculous. They look like those cheap reels that you see on like wish. Not bashing them but they dont look like something I'm going to fork out large money on.
Pretty sure Favorite's reels are just branded generic Doyo's.. the parts are interchangeable with some Kast King and other 'no name' reels from the same plant.
newyorktoiowa57 reply :
On 3/14/2019 at 7:41 AM, punch said:Pretty sure Favorite's reels are just branded generic Doyo's.. the parts are interchangeable with some Kast King and other 'no name' reels from the same plant.
Theres no way scott would fish with those
DomQ reply :
On 3/14/2019 at 7:41 AM, punch said:Pretty sure Favorite's reels are just branded generic Doyo's.. the parts are interchangeable with some Kast King and other 'no name' reels from the same plant.
That looks like a toy from the dollar store
Edit* got a little off topic here sorry guys. TCS rods are awesome! Everyone needs to try one.
BigBass'n_Harrison reply :
Anybody that’s interested: The TCS Rods are now 25% off with the Bassmaster Classic sale! I think I’m gonna pick one up myself ????
actually, all Okuma rods and I’m guessing reels too are 25% off? Does anybody know why this is? I think I read somewhere they separated from Savage Gear (didn’t even know they were together) would this have something to do with it?
GrumpyOlPhartte reply :
What @BigBass'n_Harrison said. I used the Frog/Swimbait rod last year for frogs, jigs, large worms, and even used it with S-Waver 168s and Shine Glides as I dabbled in swimbaits. For me, it handled all with aplomb. For me, the sensitivity was certainly adequate although I have no experience with more expensive rods. Would not hesitate to buy more TCS rods ... if I was willing to sleep on the couch!
Dwbassin reply :
I have 2 tcs Rods, one 7’3 heavy casting for frogs and swimbaits. I have the medium plus shakeyhead rod as well. I love them, they are good rods for how cheap they are. They’ve been $100 for awhile on amzn, and they are on clearance now on this HORRIBLE classic sale. Back to the rods, my spinning rod is amazing, works for drop shotting, Ned rigs, shakeys as well. Gonna throw dartheads and try them as well. My frog rod was amazing. Threw senkos, jigs, frogs, chatterbaits even but I after 2 months (I fish a lot, 3 or 4 days a week) the top insert on the guide just disappeared. So that’s the only issue I’ve caught fish on it after but it frays line so I’m retiring it. All in all good rods for the price
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/15/2019 at 11:48 PM, Dwbassin said:the top insert on the guide just disappeared. So that’s the only issue I’ve caught fish on it after but it frays line so I’m retiring it.
Just put a new tip on it and fish it. Very easy to do and cost less than $10. Lots of Youtube videos on how to do it.
Dwbassin reply :
On 3/17/2019 at 12:42 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Just put a new tip on it and fish it. Very easy to do and cost less than $10. Lots of Youtube videos on how to do it.
True, I wanna get a good tip too. It would be a waste of a rod cause it did a good job for multiple purposes
J Francho reply :
Alconite tips are around $3 and can be found at most tackle stores.
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