Flurocarbon Tired Of Paying For It 2024

Green Trout reply :

I have been using Flurocarbon for my Jigs and T Rigs in 8-15ft of water and love the sensitivity I get. The water clarity is about 2 foot so I don't use Flurocarbon for invisibility, just sensitivity. If I were to use 12-15 pound Big Game monofilament, would I get the same sensitivity?

Cgrinder reply :

Probably not.

A-Jay reply :

Braided line & the leader of your choice will provide you all the sensitivity when fishing jigs & T-Rigs you could ask for.

A-Jay

Penguino reply :

If you really want to save money, go with copolymer. Its the perfect mix between sensitivity and affordability.

retiredbosn reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 12:04 AM, Green Trout said:
I have been using Flurocarbon for my Jigs and T Rigs in 8-15ft of water and love the sensitivity I get. The water clarity is about 2 foot so I don't use Flurocarbon for invisibility, just sensitivity. If I were to use 12-15 pound Big Game monofilament, would I get the same sensitivity?

No but if u go with yo-zuri hybrid (12 bucks 600yds), the difference would be negligible. But braid with a yz leader would be better IMO.

zeth reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 12:13 AM, A-Jay said:

Braided line & the leader of your choice will provide you all the sensitivity when fishing jigs & T-Rigs you could ask for.

A-Jay

Chris at Tech reply :

And as good as braid is, it also cannot match the slack line sensitivity fluoro has. Neither can copoly

S Hovanec reply :

Don't fill the spool then. When I was using floro for dropshotting, I'd only put on 50 yards at a time over mono backer. When it got too short or too messed up, I'd strip off what was left of the floro and put 50 more yards on. way cheaper than filling the spool every time you need new line.

Team9nine reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 12:40 AM, Chris at Tech said:

No

And as good as braid is, it also cannot match the slack line sensitivity fluoro has. Neither can copoly

^^^ This ^^^ Most filler spools will fill 2 reels (use cheap backing line), and the line is usually good for the entire season. I don't see it as much of a cost issue unless you're filling up an entire arsenal of reels. Do what's best for you though.

-T9

A-Jay reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 12:40 AM, Chris at Tech said:

No

And as good as braid is, it also cannot match the slack line sensitivity fluoro has. Neither can copoly

Here we go . . . .

And as good as Fluorocarbon is, it cannot match the knot strength of braid, Mono or copoly . . . . .

A-Jay

retiredbosn reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 1:24 AM, A-Jay said:

Here we go . . . .

And as good as Fluorocarbon is, it cannot match the knot strength of braid, Mono or copoly . . . . .

A-Jay

I'm sick of all the fluorocarbon myths being passed as facts. I really need to post all the research I've done, the truths about it's properties characteristics etc, it's not the magical line that it's represented as.

A-Jay reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 1:28 AM, retiredbosn said:
I'm sick of all the fluorocarbon myths being passed as facts. I really need to post all the research I've done, the truths about it's properties characteristics etc, it's not the magical line that it's represented as.

I hear ya - but it's still pretty good stuff; especially the higher end products.

I don't use it but do enjoy the back & forth banter quite a bit.

A-Jay

Jon G reply :

Braid with a leader woud most likely be your best bet especially since visability is not a problem. Personally I prefer flurocarbon because the invisibilty property of it gives me a lot of confidence. I go back and forth with braid and flurocarbon but I usually end up getting frustrated with braid because I seem to always backlash with braid but almost never with flurocarbon or a copoly. Just experiment with different lines and see which one you prefer.

flyfisher reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 12:40 AM, Chris at Tech said:

No

And as good as braid is, it also cannot match the slack line sensitivity fluoro has. Neither can copoly

do you fish often with a slack line? i know i try not to have a slack line, especially when the bait is paused. and even if it is slack, unless it is a ton of slack, i.e. it wouldn't matter because you couldn't set the hook anyways, i have found that the sensitivity of braid is easily viewed and felt as there is virtually no stretch to take up as they take the bait.

Bass_Fanatic reply :

Most of my fish that I catch pitching hits it on the initial fall. Floro gives me much better sensitivity on the fall than any other type of line. I'll stick to floro

Diggy reply :

Gander has 400yds for 20 dollars, its made by sunline

HoosierHawgs reply :

Kinda a forum hack... I know we talked Co-Poly earlier... But what are opinions on P-Line CX? Would it make a good replacement for Fluorocarbon either straight spooled or as a leader?

Diggy reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 4:02 AM, jakob1010 said:
Kinda a forum hack... I know we talked Co-Poly earlier... But what are opinions on P-Line CX? Would it make a good replacement for Fluorocarbon either straight spooled or as a leader?

I got a spool free with a zillion that I bought. I had never used it before but I used it for jig fishing and I had no problems detecting bites on a football jig. 12lb test. It seems like great all purpose line. I've used hybrid before tho.

HoosierHawgs reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 4:14 AM, Diggy said:
I got a spool free with a zillion that I bought. I had never used it before but I used it for jig fishing and I had no problems detecting bites on a football jig. 12lb test. It seems like great all purpose line. I've used hybrid before tho.

Ok thanks for the price I will try it out for 8 bones in not to worried.

Chris at Tech reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 1:24 AM, A-Jay said:

Here we go . . . .

And as good as Fluorocarbon is, it cannot match the knot strength of braid, Mono or copoly . . . . .

A-Jay

So for starters, I should have included "in my experience" of like wording since I'm just stating my opinion...

Personally I've not experienced any issues with knot strength during my fluoro use. But if this problem is prevalent then I would say you can learn alternative knots that are more effective for different lines to overcome this problem. But on the other hand, you cannot change the properties and performance of the line so to me, any knot strength issues with fluoro can be worked around, but there's nothing that can be done to make mono/co-poly as sensitive as fluoro in my hands.

On 5/11/2015 at 2:47 AM, flyfisher said:
do you fish often with a slack line? i know i try not to have a slack line, especially when the bait is paused. and even if it is slack, unless it is a ton of slack, i.e. it wouldn't matter because you couldn't set the hook anyways, i have found that the sensitivity of braid is easily viewed and felt as there is virtually no stretch to take up as they take the bait.

If I'm letting a plastic or jig drop, there's slack. Also when I'm bumping the bottom with those same techniques, I'm not holding the line very tight so there is always at least a bit of slack unless I'm pulling tight to move the bait. It's NOT enough slack in the line that a few cranks of the handle before setting the hook cannot solve.

But by all means use what you like. I happen to like fluoro, but if you don't, I ain't mad at ya! Just seems to me that the OP does recognize improved sensitivy of fluoro (like I do), so my guess is that replacing the fluoro with mono would not result in the same sensitivity.

FishTank reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 12:04 AM, Green Trout said:

I have been using Flurocarbon for my Jigs and T Rigs in 8-15ft of water and love the sensitivity I get. The water clarity is about 2 foot so I don't use Flurocarbon for invisibility, just sensitivity. If I were to use 12-15 pound Big Game monofilament, would I get the same sensitivity?

No, short answer. Which FC have you been using?

Big Game is good line but it does not have the sensitivity of FC nor does it last as long. It is however very cheap. A good alternative is Yo Zuri hybrid or Seagur Senshi.

hatrix reply :

I did find a tatula I had sitting around with 15# Tatsu on it that I never used. Well let me tell you, it is hands down the best line I have ever used. I kind of want to change over a few reels to Tatsu. It can easily last a whole season and $20 a reel is fine with me for what it is.

A-Jay reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 4:57 AM, Chris at Tech said:

So for starters, I should have included "in my experience" of like wording since I'm just stating my opinion...

Personally I've not experienced any issues with knot strength during my fluoro use. But if this problem is prevalent then I would say you can learn alternative knots that are more effective for different lines to overcome this problem. But on the other hand, you cannot change the properties and performance of the line so to me, any knot strength issues with fluoro can be worked around, but there's nothing that can be done to make mono/co-poly as sensitive as fluoro in my hands.

If I'm letting a plastic or jig drop, there's slack. Also when I'm bumping the bottom with those same techniques, I'm not holding the line very tight so there is always at least a bit of slack unless I'm pulling tight to move the bait. It's NOT enough slack in the line that a few cranks of the handle before setting the hook cannot solve.

But by all means use what you like. I happen to like fluoro, but if you don't, I ain't mad at ya! Just seems to me that the OP does recognize improved sensitivy of fluoro (like I do), so my guess is that replacing the fluoro with mono would not result in the same sensitivity.

See - I told ya this was fun . . .

A-Jay

Senko lover reply :

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/156066-yo-zuri-vs-flurocarbon/#entry1758795

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/151889-very-happy-with-flurocarbon/

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/155738-a-flurocarbon-misconception/#entry1754527

Sheesh.

Alonerankin2 reply :

I'm still trying to digest the whole invisible thing..

rboat reply :

If your water is not clear just use straight braid. It is strong, plenty sensitive, and no extra knot to fail. Off shore salt water is really clear and many of the guys I know use straight braid out there. If it works in clear salt water it should work in semi - clear fresh water. I use straight braid and did not notice a decline in strikes from using other lines. Many years ago, they used a dacron braid that looked like twisted black thin rope, I remember seeing it on my gramps old levelwind reel. They caught fish with it, so unless your water is super clear braid will work fine, with or without a leader.

retiredbosn reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 6:28 AM, Alonerankin2 said:
I'm still trying to digest the whole invisible thing..

It's a fluro myth, it's not invisible under water.

http://www.seaguar.com/applications/myths.html

On 5/11/2015 at 6:15 AM, A-Jay said:

See - I told ya this was fun . . .

A-Jay

Yes u did, I'll post mine tomorrow, start a new one

flyfisher reply :

this thread makes me realize that i never spooled up any of my reels with that yozuri i picked up cheap not too long ago...

A-Jay reply :

OK so here's the deal with me and Fluorocarbon line ~ I'm not a hater, it's just not for me. If you're using it successfully great. I did not.

After using it for One season . . I don't like the bad knot strength - I don't believe the line is invisible - I don't believe it has less stretch than mono and I don't like the high price.

I do like braid and I do like mono. They both work well for me when used correctly.

I use Braid & a mono leader for many techniques (not all) - I like the versatility.

I can change a rig's use by changing the leader size or the type / action of the rod and still use the same main line. Here's an example of what I mean -

Take Three reels all with 30 lb braid main line -

Put one on a 7 ft MH jig rod with a 17 lb mono leader - I have a jig set up.

Take the next reel - and put it on a 7 foot MH glass or composite rod with a 12 lb mono leader and I have a mid depth / lipless crank bait rig.

Take the last one put it on a 6'10' MH Graphite stick with a 10 - 12 lb mono leader and I have a jerk bait rod.

And so on - - A small box with filler size spools of mono of whatever pound test you need for leaders and you're set. The mainline last 3 years instead of 3 weeks. And the spools of mono are cheap and last at least a year. I buy bulk and fill them myself.

I think you get the idea. This works for me and I CAN NOT be the only one doing this - I'm not that smart.

A-Jay

Josh Smith reply :

I used to fish with mono only because that's what we had.

I got out of fishing for a while and when I came back 10 or 15 years later, the game had changed.

I'm really diggin' my braided line with fluoro leaders. Under certain conditions, the refractive index seems to help. No, not completely invisible, but helps (it seems!)

In grass/weeds/etc, I can't find any advantage to fishing it vs straight braid.

Josh

Ozark_Basser reply :

On 5/11/2015 at 2:47 AM, flyfisher said:
do you fish often with a slack line? i know i try not to have a slack line, especially when the bait is paused. and even if it is slack, unless it is a ton of slack, i.e. it wouldn't matter because you couldn't set the hook anyways, i have found that the sensitivity of braid is easily viewed and felt as there is virtually no stretch to take up as they take the bait.

Slack line sensitivity is very important for bottom contact baits. Yes, braid is a lot more sensitive, but that's only on a tight line. I've been experimenting with this a whole lot lately, and I urge you to do the same. When fishing bottom contact baits, semi slack line is very important. It allows the fish to take the bait without feeling you, and they just seem to bite it better on a semi slack line. I guarantee that a nice fish comes up, eats your bait, and spits it out more than you realize. This is where fluoro has the advantage over braid. Due to its density, it transmits those bites much better on a semi slack line.

In shallow water, on a short to average length cast, this doesn't play as big of a role because you can watch the line jump when using braid. Also you have a lot less slack line in the water when fishing shallow water, so the braid doesn't have as much of a bow in it so it's still pretty sensitive. But on a long cast and especially in deep water, braid will bow and slack line sensitivity is definitely an advantage. Larger fish with larger mouths can suck in a bait without it feeling like much at all on your end.

Maxximus Redneckus reply :

Big game would be fine at least you wont have to worry about your knot or the line failing for no reason.

bassr95 reply :

A $10 spool of red label keeps my jig rod in business all season...unless I get too many "professional overruns"

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