if anyone here owns or knows of a plastic company looking for a pro-staffer drop me a line and eye'll check out the site
Quoteif anyone here owns or knows of a plastic company looking for a pro-staffer drop me a line and eye'll check out the site
Kid you need to know how to spell I'll first before you can even consider yourself a "pro-staffer"
*sigh*
Since I know your just 13, I am trying not to be rude but after the last few days of your postings and your butchering the english language its getting really hard not to...
man, you must have alot of companies making you offers with that resume. i am starting my own company pretty soon, and you are one of my top canidates for prostaff!!!!
Quoteman, you must have alot of companies making you offers with that resume. i am starting my own company pretty soon, and you are one of my top canidates for prostaff!!!!
Senko77, that is funny...... ;D
Quoteman, you must have alot of companies making you offers with that resume. i am starting my own company pretty soon, and you are one of my top canidates for prostaff!!!!
I don't care WHO you are... NOW THAT right there is FUNNY!!!
seriously dude. it is next to impossible to get a sponsor at this age. I have a very mild sponsorship with tru-tungsten. they will send me stuff, but not that much. there is no financial support from them, and the only reason they "sponsored" me was a pro fisherman i am freinds with that was doing a job for there display booth, put in a good word for me and showed them the huge fish i caught, and i just got lucky. They are waiting till i turn 18 to start the big stuff. my recomendations are
1) learn to spell "I"
2) concentrate on fishing skills for the next few years
3) do things that will help your resume be more attractive
4) practice public speaking, and ways of promoting small things, so you get comfortable talking to a crowd
but please please please dont spell I eye anymore. it is so freakin annoying
senko77, how old are you?
Quoteseriously dude. it is next to impossible to get a sponsor at this age. I have a very mild sponsorship with tru-tungsten. they will send me stuff, but not that much. there is no financial support from them, and the only reason they "sponsored" me was a pro fisherman i am freinds with that was doing a job for there display booth, put in a good word for me and showed them the huge fish i caught, and i just got lucky. They are waiting till i turn 18 to start the big stuff. my recomendations are1) learn to spell "I"
2) concentrate on fishing skills for the next few years
3) do things that will help your resume be more attractive
4) practice public speaking, and ways of promoting small things, so you get comfortable talking to a crowd
but please please please dont spell I eye anymore. it is so freakin annoying
Senko,
Before you chew someone out for spelling and grammar, make sure they can't do the same to you. When using I, don't use i. Don't is with 't in it. Friends is ie not ei. This is how to spell recommendations.
I try to write my stuff in an email first to get spell check, then copy and paste it on here. Works for me. I don't do it all the time, but if you are going to correct someone on grammar and spelling, make sure you are in the right yourself.
Squid
PFFFT Senko can you say OWNED???? hahahahahaha don't feel bad kid... I got OWNED yesterday...
AL
hey guy's lay off the kid please, the last thing we need to beat down a young angler who has a dream.
crankinking you're resume is written very well for a young guy
but even though these guy's are whippin you a little they have some good point's
before you try to get sponsor's fish some more tourney's and make a name for yourself, and when you are not fishing get a job outside school to help support the habit. At your age you need to be on the water as much as possible and when you start signing sponsor's you're time will become stretched,
case in point this february 9 of my day's off that would be spent fishing will be spent traveling to all 9 Gander Mtn's in Ny to train the staff on fish hedz.
so take your time and have fun
and all you guy's remember what it was like being 13
and senko77 you seem to be ahead of the curve keep it up and be a little more
encouraging to other's your age
Peace out
I hear what your saying Top... I wasn't being hard on the kid... I just think that if he wants to play with the "big dogs" he needs to act like one of the big dogs... I guarantee you that no one is going to give him any type of a "pro staff" deal the way things are... I could send him 5 packs of free stuff but that would be me just being nice to him... He isn't looking for that he is looking to be a Big Dog and as such I am treating him like an adult. Its not me being mean.. its me treating him as an equal.. NOW if he was just showing his enthusiasm that would be different he would wouldn't be getting any flack from anyone... remember I am tough on everyone... myself included... in fact I am probably harder on myself than on anyone else..Hell I would glady go fishing with ANYONE just for the pleasure... and I 100% agree the last thing you want to do is "beat down" a kid.. but on the same token the last thing in the world you want to do is just blow sunshine up someones butt and encourage him to think that stuff will just be given to him because "he wants it' isn't right, he doesn't even take time to spell things correctly... I WANT a sponsor to give me a full wrap deal but I know that is just not going to happen because I am not at the level I need to be to even THINK about it... Is this his fault? noooo hahahahah but its just my way of showing you my point... This world can be very hard and for someone to think that all he has to do is write a decent resume with very little substance and say I want... *shaking head* sorry I am not being hard on him... just being honest...
AL
personaly SFC I don't see you as being "hard" on me..I do appreciate being honest with me though so thank you..now do me a favor lets forget about all this that I have recently posted and get back to fishing
haha. i got told
WHOA GUYS,
Lets encourage young people to have dreams instead of badgering them. I think it is great for young anglers to have a desire to dream and have goals. Lets help get these young folks on the road to fishing for a lifetime and being on a great website like this one instead of other web junk. To all the young anglers -- THANKS FOR YOUR ENTHUSIASM!!! 8-)
Al I love ya I have an idea send the picture you use to chiquita maby they'll
wrap you and you can run the banana boat, on second thought banana boat is also sun tan lotion hummm you could probrably get some babe's to pose on the boat, yeah that's it the sun tan lotion go for it man ;D
*raised eyebrow* HEY YEAH!!! GOOD IDEA!!! then Senko and my other little friend here Crankin King can be my "associates" and we can all FISH till WE grow gills. I will teach Cranking how to spell I ;Dand then I can show Senko how to get his hair cut into a high and tight 8-)... and then he can show me where to get them there HUGE bass he keeps catchin!
GOOD IDEAR my friend!
Senko knew where I was coming from, and didn't feel that I was offending him. Just admitting that if you are going to correct someone, make sure you are in the right.
Topwtr,
Good luck on the FH Training in the GM's. Still trying to get the closest ones to me to order them.
Squid
squid I here gm is going chain wide in march
which store are you near if I can help let me know
top
I am NEAR Coldwater, Lansing, and Kalamazoo MI. How can you help, are you tied in with GM?
Squid
IMO..we shouldn't be bashing each other..Especially a young angler...We(as adults)should be a little more understanding of them and try to help them as much as we can,even if it is with something as little as the spelling thing..Hey little guy..Stay with your dream..Never loose focus,and you will suceed,and as my favorite angler says....NEVER GIVE UP!!!!
I give up! Don't think thars a one of ye that kin spel ! ;D
QuoteIMO..we shouldn't be bashing each other..Especially a young angler...We(as adults)should be a little more understanding of them and try to help them as much as we can,even if it is with something as little as the spelling thing..Hey little guy..Stay with your dream..Never loose focus,and you will suceed,and as my favorite angler says....NEVER GIVE UP!!!!
Not bashing anyone. If you haven't noticed, this is the resume section. Spelling should count here. Why? Cause this is where everyone comes to READ ABOUT YOU. I even mis-spell words in the other sections, but this is where it matters the most, if looking for sponsors. Plus, this is a great place to practice writing your resumes, with proper spelling and grammer. We are all here to help each other, and that means helping them with their spelling.
Squid
cabela10, im 16. y do u want to know??
I am 16 also
As my grandfather would say, "Lits go fishin with some topwaders, cranbaits, gigs, Tinbaits, ans sum of those new slinkos and charterbaits and gits us a hog"
Mind you my grandfather never finished Hih scool
I think it is better for anglers, not just kids, who are looking for sponsorship, to learn the lesson about grammar right here by folks who will help and guide as opposed to them sending a company a letter that will embarress them.
I don't think anyone here is bashing at all. Many of us grew up with an emphasis on grammar that is quickly diminishing in todays society. In the age of text messaging, on-line chatting, etc, the english language is being destroyed but this is how the kids are learning it.
However, the professional business world is still just that. When a corporate executive recieves a letter from someone looking for affiliation and it's filled with "lol's" , "IMO's", the word "I" used in lower case, sentences that begin with lower case letters, and words spelled like they sound, they quickly move on to the next applicant.
AMEN after the summers over and its time to go back to school I fell stupid because all I do all summer is text and use internet talk :-[ And I cant spell for beans
I do have a fishing dream, behind my hockey and swimming dreams. Just out of curiousity, how many tournaments do you win befre you could consider yourself, going to the next level to get some real cash. I enter local torunaments, as I don't own a gas motored boat, and even if I did, couldn't drive it as, I am only 14 years old. In the last year or so, I have became dedicated to fishing, entering our ''towns'' big fishing tournament, coming in first for my age group and 2nd in the whole thing, bringing in, a big amount for me, $75 bucks! Not much compared to you older guys for bigger tournaments. If I went to eneter a big tournament, where the winner brings home some $150+ would that be considered a big tournament for a non-pro? Thanks.
This thread is amazing! It appears that it is the blind leading the blind, as each person seeks to outdo the next with their knowledge of the bass fishing industry.
Realistically, no industry is going to hire a youngster to represent them, where that representation is going to have meaningful compensation. It takes far more than catching a lunker out of a local farm pond to obtain notice in this world of bass fishing.
There is no fast track to becoming recognized as a contributing member of the professional ranks of fishing. Before you can obtain a real sponsorship you will first need to obtain that status.
The real deal for you youngsters is to continue on with your education. As you grow and learn stay involved with fishing and increase your knowledge in this tremendous sport of ours. Understand, that if you do stay with fishing for bass, that sponsors come in many forms, and many levels of involvement. They have one thing in common no matter what their level of involvement: intelligent representation from those they sponsor.
Writing is an intricate part of this industry. Your ability to place on paper those words that wander about in your mind is as important, if not more important than your fishing skills. Spelling accuracy is but a small part of the writing skills that you will need to properly represent yourself or any potential sponsors.
Real sponsorship involves money, and lots of it. Get the education; learn the needed fishing skills, then think about moving up. Real tournament fishing involves tremendous amounts of money. Initially in this world of reality, you will be entering into the tournament scene with most of the contributing money coming from your own pocket. Do you have the money?
A final thought: Real sponsorship is not a few bags of worms or a discounted rod. Real sponsorship is full financial backing into the tournament scene. If all your seeking is a few bags of worms or a discounted rod, than you are not seeking sponsorship, you are seeking a handout.
Amen George! Most guys don't get it, and even fewer get that kind of deal.
If you can spare me a short amount of time to talk to the younger anglers on this forum. Like majority of people who fall in love with the sport of bass fishing, have ambhitions of becoming a pro angler. I can honestly say since was 8years old(renting that fishing video by jimmy houston at erol's and now i'm 25 ) I wanted to be a pro angler. But my parents said once you get your education you can do whatever you want with your life. If pro angling doesn't work out you can always fall back on that degree. I'm not saying if you dont get your education its end of your life, but its like plan B. I told my parents since grade school I wanted to be a pro-angler, they supported me taking me to lakes and ponds on weekends but still emphasized my education. When high school graduation was coming near they told me if I was so interested in wildlife pick something that is relevent to fishing. So I picked marine biology, after studying a year I realized I liked catching fish better then knowing what makes up a fish ( If that makes sense ). But instead of quitting school I studied my next passion US history, after graduating and having a stable job I decided to fish tourneys. I did fish smaller club tourneys and I think the experience is invaluable.
Personally I rather want the sponsor to want my services then the other way around, anyone can be a yes man but few can demand the services of sponsors. Once you have some success and you ask for sponorship, they will be there. But it seems people expect services before you really offer anything to the company. I dont want to seem like i'm trampling over your dreams, but I once was there with your type of expectations, but reality is different, and should be realistic. When reading the fishing resume forum I see a lot of young people deciding they were ready to become pro. This might be true for some but vast majority wont reach there goals right away and you will need financial stability to pursue your goals. I'll be the first one to say set your goals real high, but have things you can fall back on in case you can't achieve those goals, thats not selling yourself short but being savvy about your future.
The bottom line here is this: Some anglers feel that just because they like to fish, occassionally catch a fish, maybe even win a tournament or two, they are entitled to some sponsorship deal with a company.
HOGWASH!
If you can market yourself, actually spell sponsorship correctly, you are on your way to perhaps getting your foot in the door if you make the right decisions. Coming on a website and asking to get sponsored in an open forum is not one of those correct decisions.
I don't think age has a whole lot to do with it, you just have to show a sponsor that you know what you are doing, you are respectable, and you can market yourself.
Begging your pardon, I do not think too many sponsors are looking for someone, underage, who needs a note from their parents to appear at tackle shows or enter a tournament.
Whittler, that is another excellent point. Not to discourage young guys but as a custom tackle shop owner, I don't like to think that any demands I put on younger staff will affect their school/home responsibilities.
I brought this post back to the surface for two reasons. 1. I believe this is a great thread that everyone looking for sponsors should read. and 2. I'm sick of seeing the post that I moved back with putting this one up front.
Well just reading the first couple of replies all I can say about what these guys have learned is Dont post on this darn site.
You've got to realize that this section for Resumes is not here to get someone a job or a sponsorship. It is used to fine tune a resume, and to get ideas on how to prepare yourself to work in the fishing industry. If you post a resume and it is junk then we don't hold back. But if you take the criticism and use it you will come out better in the end.
This is the only section that we alow this kind of criticism.
well okay but some of the things I read were just nut busters but I guess I am just different. I think its pretty ridiculous though that someone uses a spelling joke and he just gets a mudhole stomped in him but I guess Im just whining because I am just a lil girl or something someone would say except for fear of being kicked off the site but I do understand the criticism for the resumes( I spelled it completly wrong and I dont care thats why word has spell check) So call me a :'( I dont care. But anyway I hope somebody replies on my question.
There is no reason to be scared of getting kicked off of this site. I can count on one hand how many we have booted in the last two years.
Oh and this is also the least visited section on the forum so it sometimes takes a while before you get a response from somebody who is in the know. Be patient it will happen.
If you write it they will come?
Quotewell okay but some of the things I read were just nut busters but I guess I am just different. I think its pretty ridiculous though that someone uses a spelling joke and he just gets a mudhole stomped in him but I guess Im just whining because I am just a lil girl or something someone would say except for fear of being kicked off the site but I do understand the criticism for the resumes( I spelled it completly wrong and I dont care thats why word has spell check) So call me a :'( I dont care. But anyway I hope somebody replies on my question.
This section is here for
A. Advice on sponsorships.
B. Criticism of your resumes. We are the proof readers,...the critiques. If you post it, you are asking us to point out what is wrong. Thusly, someone who just pops in and reads without knowing this, may view it as harsh. It is,...but it is "requested" harshness.
PS- Check your spell checker, it ain't workin'
"Tough Love"
Critiques in this section are BRUTALLY honest. If you expect to make it at the professional level, get over it and address the issues. No, it's not always nice and never sugarcoated.
Well none of my english teachers have told me I was butchering the english language or made me feel like a complete idiot. But i geuss your right I was just having a bad day that day and was just venting.
Don't let some tough love get you down and keep your dream alive. You must practice, participate, promote, and proof read.
Practice your fishing skills and take lots of photos.
Participate in activities to get to know people and help yourself get noticed.
Promote yourself as you go with an album of achievments.
Of course what you write shows who you are so be careful with your writing, your speech, and your portfolio.
This sounds like alot but stay on track and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER give up your dreams. Good Luck!!!
QuoteWell none of my english teachers have told me I was butchering the english language or made me feel like a complete idiot. But i geuss your right I was just having a bad day that day and was just venting.
Not an issue bud, now you know to be more aware, that's all
Keeping it simple: You can't run with the big dogs, if you are going to pee with the poodles
After reading this entire thread. Everyone has some very good points. One I would like to make to people who may not know is that lure companies aren't going to just throw money at somebody unless maybe they are pro's who regularly get on TV. After getting a sponsor its a lot of work and usually you actually have to buy so much of that companies product to get into the pro-staff, sometimes several hundred dollars and after that you only get money or free lures buy establishing sales lead to sales rep and generating sales. For instance my parasite pro-staff for the first 300 I sell I get 30 dollars of product. When I get sales of at least 1000 I get another 25.00 in product and at 2500 dollars of sales I get a tourney shirt and I am required to work 8 hours at a store promoting the product each year or one show. Its not all fun and games and it might end up costing you more in the long run. I was contacted by essox fishing rods and in order to be a pro-staff I had to buy somewhere between 3 and 5 rods, I don't remember, but each rod cost a couple hundred dollars. My advice to youngsters is go to college and get a degree for plan b.
QuoteI was contacted by essox fishing rods and in order to be a pro-staff I had to buy somewhere between 3 and 5 rods, I don't remember, but each rod cost a couple hundred dollars.
That is not a pro-staff or field staff offer. That is a sales pitch imo. It seems like a lot of people are becoming suckers to this "buy in" thing that is happening more and more. How is buying a 5 rods, working a couple of weekends at a fishing shows, in order to get a discount or a few free products that doesnt cost much to make a good deal for me? It isn't!
Most will do anything to say "I'm sponsered" or wear a patch or hat of their sponsered company. :
QuoteQuoteI was contacted by essox fishing rods and in order to be a pro-staff I had to buy somewhere between 3 and 5 rods, I don't remember, but each rod cost a couple hundred dollars.That is not a pro-staff or field staff offer. That is a sales pitch imo. It seems like a lot of people are becoming suckers to this "buy in" thing that is happening more and more. How is buying a 5 rods, working a couple of weekends at a fishing shows, in order to get a discount or a few free products that doesnt cost much to make a good deal for me? It isn't!
Most will do anything to say "I'm sponsered" or wear a patch or hat of their sponsered company. :
First, if you have ever handled an Esox Carbon Fiber Rod, you would love to have the discount.
Secondly, I fully understand a company wanting a commitment from a possible rep. Throwing money and product at just anyone is a poor business plan and a recipe for failure. I personally feel the Esox approach is right on. I use their product because "I" think it's a good product, not because I get to wear their hat, which I don't.
I would really like to hear why this is a bad plan by Esox. I have been approached by guys wanting a sponsorship from El Grande Lures. My first question is; "Have you used any of my lures, and what do you think of them" I keep a customer list, so I am pretty sure I know who has bought from me as I don't sell retail. Why would I want anyone representing my company who has never used my product?
Nope never felt one, I'm just talking about the marketing and idea behind it. So you have to buy rods on the spot so they know you are a user of their product? :-/ But it is understandable for them to want someone who knows their product. I think there is a better way of doing it though.
The other thing I have seen with a few bait companies is "buy this sponsership start up kit for $500 and you become field-staff, buy this add on kit for an additional $250 and become full pro-staff." I won't mention the names of these companies but as wrong as it sounds, it is a great way of getting people to buy products. People will do ANYTHING to say they have sponsers and to make their resume better and companies can take advantage of it. Plus for the companyi ts a win win, the person spends $500 or $750 and they send them advertising stuff, and some products, and they get people to buy stuff from you at a regular price.
QuoteNope never felt one, I'm just talking about the marketing and idea behind it. So you have to buy rods on the spot so they know you are a user of their product? :-/ But it is understandable for them to want someone who knows their product. I think there is a better way of doing it though.The other thing I have seen with a few bait companies is "buy this sponsership start up kit for $500 and you become field-staff, buy this add on kit for an additional $250 and become full pro-staff." I won't mention the names of these companies but as wrong as it sounds, it is a great way of getting people to buy products. People will do ANYTHING to say they have sponsers and to make their resume better and companies can take advantage of it. Plus for the companyi ts a win win, the person spends $500 or $750 and they send them advertising stuff, and some products, and they get people to buy stuff from you at a regular price.
I understand what your point is. I agree, some are sales gimmicks.
QuoteFirst, if you have ever handled an Esox Carbon Fiber Rod, you would love to have the discount.Secondly, I fully understand a company wanting a commitment from a possible rep. Throwing money and product at just anyone is a poor business plan and a recipe for failure. I personally feel the Esox approach is right on. I use their product because "I" think it's a good product, not because I get to wear their hat, which I don't.
I would really like to hear why this is a bad plan by Esox. I have been approached by guys wanting a sponsorship from El Grande Lures. My first question is; "Have you used any of my lures, and what do you think of them" I keep a customer list, so I am pretty sure I know who has bought from me as I don't sell retail. Why would I want anyone representing my company who has never used my product?
you are absolutely right I would not want someone representing my company who did not actuallyusm products owon them. I have used a some essox rods howevere I don't know if they were carbon fiber. It was a few years ago. I was merely trying to explain to someone that pro-staffing isn't about. Just making money in fact you will most likely pay more than what will actually be given to you. I loved the essox rods and that is why I contacted them. However I could not affford to buy 5 of their rods at full price in fact I plan on contacting them again in a few years to get some rods. They make a great product, but beingin school I wasn't paying that.