Ocean Kayak Prowler Big Game Ii 2024
KenG85 reply :
Looking for some insight into this boat. I know its new, but any opinions would be nice.
Also any information running down the Ocean Kayak line of angler kayak's would really be appreciated. I am limited to OK because a large discount I will get.
The nuts and bolts of my fishing is small flat water ranging from 6 to 30 acres. But I would like to also have the option to go out on bigger water.
For the past season I have been fishing out of a Perception Prodigy 10 that I've been renting. I get a phenomenal deal at about 10$/day, but even then I spent several hundreds last year. I'm a bit big for this boat at 6'1 230lbs. It just makes more sense for me to buy my own rig that I can personalize and that will be more suitable for fishing.
I did notice that the small 10 foot boat was very easy to transport, especially up and down steeper paths. I know for sure with myself and the gear I was over the weight capacity. It seemed to create a lot of drag when I paddled.
Darren. reply :
On 3/9/2014 at 2:03 AM, KenG85 said:Looking for some insight into this boat. I know its new, but any opinions would be nice.
Also any information running down the Ocean Kayak line of angler kayak's would really be appreciated. I am limited to OK because a large discount I will get.
The nuts and bolts of my fishing is small flat water ranging from 6 to 30 acres. But I would like to also have the option to go out on bigger water.
For the past season I have been fishing out of a Perception Prodigy 10 that I've been renting. I get a phenomenal deal at about 10$/day, but even then I spent several hundreds last year. I'm a bit big for this boat at 6'1 230lbs. It just makes more sense for me to buy my own rig that I can personalize and that will be more suitable for fishing.
I did notice that the small 10 foot boat was very easy to transport, especially up and down steeper paths. I know for sure with myself and the gear I was over the weight capacity. It seemed to create a lot of drag when I paddled.
Ken- I don't fish OKs, but they have a great reputation, and since you get a discount, it seems like a sound decision.
You just need to decide the length. What type of waters do you fish? Big water, small reservoirs, rivers, a combination of all? Reason I ask, the longer a yak, more likely the better paddling experience and speed. The shorter yaks are a lot more maneuverable. I fished with a 10' and loved it for that reason.
I now fish a 12' hybrid yak and love it even more, all around better experience. That's not to say there aren't fantastic short length fishing kayaks, because there are. And you mention portaging it up hills and such. If you get a longer/heavier yak, you can make (or buy) a trail-ready cart. One called Trailtrekker is available, and it floats. Costs a bit, but could work for you. I made my own.
KenG85 reply :
The nuts and bolts of my fishing is small flat water ranging from 6 to 30 acres. But I would like to also have the option to go out on bigger water. So I was thinking about the 11 to 13' range.
I don't mind the 10 footer, but it had quite a low weight capacity.I did like the maneuverability of the boat, but my load approaches 300lbs.
Darren. reply :
On 3/9/2014 at 2:41 AM, KenG85 said:The nuts and bolts of my fishing is small flat water ranging from 6 to 30 acres. But I would like to also have the option to go out on bigger water. So I was thinking about the 11 to 13' range.
I don't mind the 10 footer, but it had quite a low weight capacity.I did like the maneuverability of the boat, but my load approaches 300lbs.
Right, that's a big consideration. You can only take so much with you on smaller lighter capacity boats.
flyfisher reply :
I think one of the mods on here JFrancho fished out of OKs so he will probably chime in at some point.
I have never heard a bad thing about them and given your use i think you are on the right track. I personally don't like anything shorter than 12' for lake fishing as they seem to waggle a little to much when covering some water. I prefer the shorter boats on moving water though where maneuverability is at more of a premium
KenG85 reply :
How about any insight in to the comfort of the seat type of the big game II. It has the hobie type canvas, adjustable seat. Are those comfortable?
flipin4bass reply :
A short review. http://finstalker.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-big-game-ii_3.html
flipin4bass reply :
Not many videos on the Big Game II since it just hit the market, but this one gives a good picture of it. I really like the hull design and those rigging plates will make adding Yak Attack, Ram, and Scotty mounts a breeze.
clayton86 reply :
On 3/9/2014 at 2:52 AM, flyfisher said:I think one of the mods on here JFrancho fished out of OKs so he will probably chime in at some point.
I have never heard a bad thing about them and given your use i think you are on the right track. I personally don't like anything shorter than 12' for lake fishing as they seem to waggle a little to much when covering some water. I prefer the shorter boats on moving water though where maneuverability is at more of a premium
He had the prowler big game, I know because I bought it off him. I love it I have used it in dang near every condition Mother Nature could throw at me and in every type of water body.
KenG85 reply :
On 3/9/2014 at 11:51 PM, clayton86 said:He had the prowler big game, I know because I bought it off him. I love it I have used it in dang near every condition Mother Nature could throw at me and in every type of water body.
Do you feel that it manuevers well? Or would be worries about how it handles in tight quarters?
clayton86 reply :
I think it maneuvers well I took it out in delta lake,NY last summer and took it threw some woods to say the least lol. I was putting it threw trails and holes I never thought I could put a kayak threw.
I've had it in some small fast creeks as well and it handled just fine.
KenG85 reply :
On 3/10/2014 at 2:15 AM, clayton86 said:I think it maneuvers well I took it out in delta lake,NY last summer and took it threw some woods to say the least lol. I was putting it threw trails and holes I never thought I could put a kayak threw.
I've had it in some small fast creeks as well and it handled just fine.
Awesome. Thanks for the input!
KenG85 reply :
I'm pumped about the mounting boards. I certainly did not want to drill holes in my boat.
c.rushing2010 reply :
One of my kayaks is the OK Prowler Trident 13 and it is a very suitable fishing platform. I hate the seat on it, but other than that, it is great. The 13' length is perfect for the areas I fish, which are very similar to the ones you have mentioned (6-30 acres) and I also bring it to the marshes for some inshore fishing.
MikeinFresno reply :
the original Big game was a slow, ill handling rig. Dont know anyone with the new one. I too have the T13 and love it. Just a good split on size n speed. My only two negatives would be not having a modern web style seat and it is getting heavy for my old self with bad shoulders and to load it up on my truck roof rack.
I would try n paddle a couple of models before you buy. The 12-13' are good all around sizes. Im considering the Old Town Predator. It is owned ny the same company as OK, Johnson. The hull bottom is gonna be the deciding factor in which one paddles better.
KenG85 reply :
On 3/12/2014 at 4:54 AM, MikeinFresno said:the original Big game was a slow, ill handling rig. Dont know anyone with the new one. I too have the T13 and love it. Just a good split on size n speed. My only two negatives would be not having a modern web style seat and it is getting heavy for my old self with bad shoulders and to load it up on my truck roof rack.
I would try n paddle a couple of models before you buy. The 12-13' are good all around sizes. Im considering the Old Town Predator. It is owned ny the same company as OK, Johnson. The hull bottom is gonna be the deciding factor in which one paddles better.
I wish I could paddle some. I'm not sure how I could make that happen here in WV.
The trident 13 angler is on my mind. As of now I'm between that and the Big game II.
MikeinFresno reply :
here in CA you can get a used T13 for $600-700 but it will sell in a day at that price. The more modern fancier model by OK is the Ultra 4.3
KenG85 reply :
The ultra is a big longer at 14' and that deeper well in the back looks kind of nice. Is there anything else different about it?
I think I want to stay under 13'
MikeinFresno reply :
lighter weight and sleeker in the water. The center hatch also rotates and has two sides to it. Little things that add up. BUT, I didnt swing the extra dough either. They are nice tho. About $1000-1200 used.
faygo1979 reply :
Are you looking at comfort and the ability to stand as a priority or speed of paddling?
the new big game is a lot like my predator kayak. comfortable. I am not going to be as fast as others but i will be paddling and fishing in comfort.
I still paddle a few miles on it but i don't think i would be trying to paddle across the great lakes on it,
Almost all kayaks are getting heaver and heaver you need to decided if that is going to be as factor with transporting it.
clayton86 reply :
My prowler is HEAVY but I leave my battery, milk crate loaded, duffle bag with soft plastics, and an anchor in 24/7 I carry it with it loaded like that sometimes even with all 8 rods laying in it if I'm going far. I have a dolly though which helps a little. My buddy has the ride 115 and he's got a fraction of what I have and only takes one rod he's not any faster then mine is.
It is a comfy paddle though I've have a few 8-10hr days in mine never sore other then sun burnt
KenG85 reply :
On 3/20/2014 at 9:08 PM, faygo1979 said:Are you looking at comfort and the ability to stand as a priority or speed of paddling?
the new big game is a lot like my predator kayak. comfortable. I am not going to be as fast as others but i will be paddling and fishing in comfort.
I still paddle a few miles on it but i don't think i would be trying to paddle across the great lakes on it,
Almost all kayaks are getting heaver and heaver you need to decided if that is going to be as factor with transporting it.
Well speed isn't that important. I fish smaller bodies of water. Standing is a cool plus, but not absolutely necessary. Mainly i'm looking for comfort since I usually fish at least 8 hours. Maneuverability is probably more important than speed.
After thinking about it more I"m betweent Trident 11, 13 and the big game II.
KenG85 reply :
On 3/21/2014 at 12:06 AM, clayton86 said:My prowler is HEAVY but I leave my battery, milk crate loaded, duffle bag with soft plastics, and an anchor in 24/7 I carry it with it loaded like that sometimes even with all 8 rods laying in it if I'm going far. I have a dolly though which helps a little. My buddy has the ride 115 and he's got a fraction of what I have and only takes one rod he's not any faster then mine is.
It is a comfy paddle though I've have a few 8-10hr days in mine never sore other then sun burnt
I saw the Ride 115 in store today. Its a cool boat and mounting options are awesome. I really liked how the rod holders are already raised. Very nice boat. Comparing the features to the new big game II, I think they are similar. But I haven't seen big game II up close.
KenG85 reply :
This is what I've been fishing out of and I bet any the OK's will beat it any metric.
http://www.perceptionkayaks.com/product/index/products/recreational/prodigy/prodigy_10/
J Francho reply :
Clayton is a beast. I dented hood on my Maxima trying to load it on the roof rack with the battery and seat still in it, lol.
My old, and Clayton's current PBG has a steerable rudder option on it, and while it shouldn't be a must have on a good tracking hull, it is on the original PBG. The trade off is a massive capacity, stability of an aircraft carrier, and enough storage to being a bass boat worth of gear.
Hadn't had a chance to see the new boat, but a lot innovations in design have happened since the originals release. OK make a great boat, though.
clayton86 reply :
On 3/21/2014 at 6:42 AM, J Francho said:Clayton is a beast. I dented hood on my Maxima trying to load it on the roof rack with the battery and seat still in it, lol.
My old, and Clayton's current PBG has a steerable rudder option on it, and while it shouldn't be a must have on a good tracking hull, it is on the original PBG. The trade off is a massive capacity, stability of an aircraft carrier, and enough storage to being a bass boat worth of gear.
Hadn't had a chance to see the new boat, but a lot innovations in design have happened since the originals release. OK make a great boat, though.
The seat ain't nothing on that thing lol. I love that kayak it's my baby lol. I did fall out of it once though. Also towed a guy with it.... Yup towed a guy who rolled his old towne kayak and couldn't get all the water out and get back in it. I unloaded all my rods and tackle and paddled back out to him pulled his kayak on top of mine while standing in mine undid his drain dumped all the water and set it back in the lake for him. All this was well 200yards from shore in 25fow. He tried getting back in and rolled it again. I ended up unhooking my anchor and tying off to his while he hung on and I paddled my arse off with him and his yak in tow.
J Francho reply :
The seat was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. A wimpy camel, that is, lol.
clayton86 reply :
I gotta power wash it soon my mom put her stupid scare crow in it in the barn and then barn cats and just ughhhhhh lets just say it's hard to tell its yellow
KenG85 reply :
So I'm in Austin, Tx for vacation and was able to rent the Predator MX. First thing I notice is how stable this thing is. It was awesome to stand and fish parallel to a reed line. This was my first time standing on a kayak and it felt about as stable as a small jon boat and probably more stable than other canoe's I've been in.
I'm strongly considering this smaller boat, but it is very heavy. The completely open deck is very nice. It did seem a bit slow, but I was also battling a good wind.
So now I'm torn between the new Big Game II and this predator MX. I'm not considering the predator 13 because it is the heaviest of the three and the BGII seems to beat it from all aspects including being 15lbs lighter.
Also found some new videos on the BGII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4ukx5CpSnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ483Y4pcps
Master Bait'r reply :
On 3/28/2014 at 10:06 PM, KenG85 said:So I'm in Austin, Tx for vacation and was able to rent the Predator MX. First thing I notice is how stable this thing is. It was awesome to stand and fish parallel to a reed line. This was my first time standing on a kayak and it felt about as stable as a small jon boat and probably more stable than other canoe's I've been in.
I'm strongly considering this smaller boat, but it is very heavy. The completely open deck is very nice. It did seem a bit slow, but I was also battling a good wind.
So now I'm torn between the new Big Game II and this predator MX. I'm not considering the predator 13 because it is the heaviest of the three and the BGII seems to beat it from all aspects including being 15lbs lighter.
Also found some new videos on the BGII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4ukx5CpSnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ483Y4pcps
As a habitual kayak drooler who is currently suffering in a cheapo sit-in, I'm lusting after two in particular. The Predator MX simply because of it's huge flat deck and awesome seat. Also the Ride 115X Advanced, mostly because of the awesome seat, better (and more) hatches, nice features and transducer console system. How stable was that MX's deck to stand on and how did you like the seat?
I'm having trouble deciding which one I like better tbh, and both cost around the same. Both are great SOT boats that will make me happy it's just a question of which will suit my needs better. That Predator MX's flat deck though... That would make for an extremely comfortable and versatile ride as well as a great standing platform- something that is just ok on the Ride because you can only stand up in one arrangement. I'd really appreciate some insight into that MX whenever you get a minute. Thanks man!
KenG85 reply :
On 4/1/2014 at 10:22 PM, Master Bait said:As a habitual kayak drooler who is currently suffering in a cheapo sit-in, I'm lusting after two in particular. The Predator MX simply because of it's huge flat deck and awesome seat. Also the Ride 115X Advanced, mostly because of the awesome seat, better (and more) hatches, nice features and transducer console system. How stable was that MX's deck to stand on and how did you like the seat?
I'm having trouble deciding which one I like better tbh, and both cost around the same. Both are great SOT boats that will make me happy it's just a question of which will suit my needs better. That Predator MX's flat deck though... That would make for an extremely comfortable and versatile ride as well as a great standing platform- something that is just ok on the Ride because you can only stand up in one arrangement. I'd really appreciate some insight into that MX whenever you get a minute. Thanks man!
Well I fished in the MX for about 16 hours and it was my first time in a stand up kayak. I have to say the stability is astounding. I could literally hop up on to my feet when I wanted to. I never questioned my balance. I had plenty of leg room to spare.
The individuals at the kayak shop were very impressed with the flat deck and definitely talked it up. The other thing they mentioned is that the absence of the mod pod makes the deck very rigid as well. It makes for great b/w the legs storage. However, in my 16 hours I never attempted to stand in the middle of the deck. The entire time I was straddling my backpack with my feet wedged against the walls the cockpit. This makes me question the advantage of the open deck.
After I realized this, I'm starting to lean more towards the prowler BGII. The MX is also very heavy and the even though the BGII is longer it is 12lbs lighter.
Jim Mac reply :
Ken, did you ever buy a kayak? I'm also interested in the Big Game 2, Predator 12' and Nucanoe Frontier 12'(for the stability and square transom). Thanks.
KenG85 reply :
I bought the big game ii but won't have it for a week or so. I'll let you know whenI do.
Don Keaton reply :
I'm 55, 6'5" and 420 lbs, so I didn't have a lot of choices when I was looking for a boat. I bought the Big Game Prowler II about 2 weeks ago and just got it in the water this past Saturday for the first time. It had been about 25 years since I was last in a canoe, and I took couple of tip overs while regaining my sea butt, but once I got used to it, the thing is pretty stable. The web seat does have two positions - high and low, and low was definitely more stable for me. I was out for about 3 hours with my kids. We paddled upriver (not fast flowing) and upwind almost a mile, did some exploring, then leisurely floated back to the ramp. The seat is very comfortable. Once I got the back set correctly, I never experienced any discomfort. This thing is not a speed demon, but it was not difficult to paddle upstream and against the wind, and it's very comfortable. It is pretty heavy. It's too heavy for me to carry any distance by myself, and even one end is a bit heavy over distance for my 13 yr old son. My next purchase will be some kind of dolly, probably the TrailTrekker once I figure out what size I need (which is how I found this forum). Any advice on the dolly would be greatly appreciated.
KenG85 reply :
Just got it today!
MikeinFresno reply :
thats as big as your car!!
flipin4bass reply :
Man Ken...I like that yak! I purchased another Trident this winter, but I wished I would have gotten the BGII. You'll have to give us a good review after you have had it on the water.
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