Sorry if this is the wrong section, I didn't know which one it would go in
I went out fishing a local pond for the first time on a kayak. It was extremely fun. I've always fished from the shore my whole life and that's the first time I've ever been out ON the water.
Unfortunately I asked my parents if I could get the same kayak I used today (it was a friends), and they said no. They cost 200 dollars retail but my friends say they got them for around 70 bucks brand new at a sports store. (just a normal sit in kayak, not a fishing one).
Anyways, I make my own money by washing dishes, but they still won't let me get one. I am 15 by the way. Also, if I tried to tell them I wanted to get even a $200 dollar + kayak they would've definitely said no, so I don't want any suggestions for other kayaks. (unless there's an awesome deal or something).
I don't understand why they won't let me get one. I make straight A's in school... but being of Asian descent that's kind of an expectation your parents have for you lol. Maybe they don't want an accident to happen? I've already told them that I'd wear a life vest. Still no. Well I'm going to try and convince them again, any thoughts? And if they say no, I guess I'm stuck roaming the banks or just borrowing my friend's kayak.
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Maybe they could be waiting for a special occasion to get you one. Ive played that trick on my kids. No youre not getting an xbox 360 end of discussion. Then BAM 360 for Christmas. No you cant get a Specialized bike too expensive get the mongoose then B-day comes around get Specialized.
So I guess you can continue to plant the seed of want for kayak til Xmas gets here.
Get straight A+s.
Just kidding. It sounds like there really is no way to convince your parents. I'm sure your parents have a good reason for you not to own a kayak. Don't fret though, perhaps as time passes they'll oblige to your request. You'll go fishing on your friend's kayak, correct? If danger is their concern then returning safely after every trip will eventually assuage their worries.
On 7/16/2014 at 11:24 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Maybe they could be waiting for a special occasion to get you one. Ive played that trick on my kids. No youre not getting an xbox 360 end of discussion. Then BAM 360 for Christmas. No you cant get a Specialized bike too expensive get the mongoose then B-day comes around get Specialized.
So I guess you can continue to plant the seed of want for kayak til Xmas gets here.
I doubt that they would get me one for Christmas. My birthday is in a week, maybe they might get me one? I don't know. They told me that you're only going to want to fish for like 2 years, then you'll never fish and use the kayak again. That's not true though. Oh well, I guess I may be stuck to just borrowing my friends yak and just carrying it down a mile or so.
Only fish for two years, ha. There's guys on this forum who have been fishing for the better part of the century "maybe a little exaggerated". Once a fisherman always a fisherman. Sory man but life's unfair, we all learn one way or another. I'll tell you what though if you can't get a yak, there are cheap easily kept secret alternatives. Buy a raft from ocean state job lot, get the higher models the cheap ones pop too easy. Cheaper then a yak, can be folded down to a tiny space. Thing is its only a basic get on the water kind of craft. Not fast, maneuverable, tough, etc. But it floats, it's cheaper then a yak and you can hide it from your folks. If you can't do that, go tom sawyer on some trees make a raft. Plans are easily obtainable, good luck. I do not endorse disobeying your parents.
You're 15. So take solace in the fact that in a few years no one will be able to tell you what to spend your money on if you earned it yourself.
Have your parents given you a reason why? If not, it doesn't hurt to ask (and when you do ask, don't keep pressuring them to get one). You said your birthday was in a week. Maybe they are planning on getting you one, for your birthday. Does your Father fish? If not, trying getting him to go sometime, and get him on some bass. I bet as soon as he hooks into one, and lands it...his perspective will change on you only fishing for 2 years.
Good luck, and Happy early Birthday to you!
Wash dishes, mow lawns and clean toilets until you have money for a truck, then get a job. Keep your job and save your money. Buy a boat!
On 7/16/2014 at 12:11 PM, Denea said:Have your parents given you a reason why? If not, it doesn't hurt to ask (and when you do ask, don't keep pressuring them to get one). You said your birthday was in a week. Maybe they are planning on getting you one, for your birthday. Does your Father fish? If not, trying getting him to go sometime, and get him on some bass. I bet as soon as he hooks into one, and lands it...his perspective will change on you only fishing for 2 years.
Good luck, and Happy early Birthday to you!
Thank you. My dad doesn't fish, and he doesn't have time to. He works all the time, sadly. I got into it myself when I was younger.
I already asked why and like I said, they think I'll only fish for another 2-3 years until I go to college or something.
Like I said earlier, its not a big deal if I don't get one now, but I just got so excited after being able to finally get on the water that I just was thinking about getting my own instead of borrowing my friend's kayak.
I don't think there's really much your parents could do to prevent you from spending money you earned how you see fit (within the law anyways). I'm not going to say you should go behind your parent's back, but if it were me I'd be looking for a friend willing to store my kayak and pretend it was theirs
Kayaks can be a little dangerous. If you flip over and get caught inside, you could drown. That's probably why they might not be too happy about you getting one. Don't go behind their back. It's not the way to build their trust in you. Be patient. It won't be long before you get a killer job that pays you millions and then you can buy a big Ranger bass boat!
On 7/16/2014 at 6:12 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I don't think there's really much your parents could do to prevent you from spending money you earned how you see fit (within the law anyways). I'm not going to say you should go behind your parent's back, but if it were me I'd be looking for a friend willing to store my kayak and pretend it was theirs
Actually, yes they can. Juvenile's don't have rights like adults do (according to the law) and a juvenile's property is at the discretion of his/her parents. Worst thing you could do is to go out and buy a kayak behind your parent's back. If they found it they could sell it or throw it away without you having the ability to stop them. Also, you would completely violate their trust and sabotage your relationship with them. Fishing is not worth hurting that relationship. I would be asking them if there is anything you can do to get one, and try and work on any fears they have about it. If that does not work keep using your friends yak. Look at it this way you are almost through this summer and that means only two more summers before you are 18 and can make any choice you want. Save up your money and buy yourself an awesome kayak for your 18th b-day. Another thing you can do is to start buying things for the yak that your friend has that you can transfer to your yak once you get one. Examples might be a kayak cart, depth finder, crate, rod holder, really good paddle, etc. These are all things you can buy that will help your fishing experience and will be things you will want once you get a yak in the future. Starting with these things may also help your parents see that you are serious about fishing and it is not going anywhere. Over time they may ease up on you and let you get the kayak you have been wanting. Hope it works out for you!!! tight lines!!
Respect you're parents wishes, as this is proper, you sound like a very responsible young man, you're parents have been instrumental in this outcome.... You're feelings are normal, focus on you're future above all else, and you're hobby last, it will all come togeather , patience. Borrow you're friends till you one day have you're own, something tells me in a couple of years you're desires will change. Good luck
Oh, yea ..Happy Birthday too!
On 7/16/2014 at 9:54 PM, Alonerankin2 said:Oh, yea ..Happy Birthday too!
Thanks!! I'm not going to ask them again about a kayak, and I'm just going to save as much as I can to maybe acquire a better one in the future.
On 7/16/2014 at 7:46 PM, Scott F said:Kayaks can be a little dangerous. If you flip over and get caught inside, you could drown. That's probably why they might not be too happy about you getting one. Don't go behind their back. It's not the way to build their trust in you. Be patient. It won't be long before you get a killer job that pays you millions and then you can buy a big Ranger bass boat!
That's understandable. My parents already freaked out a bit when they saw me get hit in the face by a baseball, so I guess they don't want me to do anything dangerous.
Best wishes Young Man!
Two years of enjoyment for $200 is a pretty good deal to me. I've blown more than that in 15 minutes, haha.
Even if you fall out of fishing, you could sell that kayak online in about a day and get at least $100 for it. If it's your money, than what's the big deal? Are they worried about your safety, or are they dreading that you're 15 and they'll have to drive you to the water? It's good exercise and better than watching TV or playing video games. If my kids ask me for a kayak over an Xbox, I'd be thrilled.
Keep making logical cases for the kayak, they'll come around. If they don't keep saving your money and you can do/buy whatever you want in just a few years.
I agree.
Do not go behind your parents back. Nothing good will come of it. Its hard to leave a float plan with a responsible adult when you're sneaking around. Not leaving a float plan? :/ Do it.
If you're parents are reluctant to buy you or allow you to have a kayak then just be responsible when you go out and borrow your friends. Tell them you're going, with who, where, and when you expect to be back. Not only will this prove you're trustworthyness and make them feel better about your safety, they will also see from the frequency of your trips that you're serious about this. Maybe that will convince them next year or the year after to help out with the kayak purchase.
Meanwhile .....save up for a proper fishing kayak. If kayaking is what you want to do- then do it right. You can get a very gently used professional sit on top kayak- mostly rigged- for $4-500. The crappy $75 sit inside isn't even worth the trouble of buying. It will get you on the water.....but its more of hinderance than you think and the more you take it out- the more you will realize this.
Have fun. Be safe. Be responsible. Save up!
On 7/16/2014 at 12:17 PM, alee17 said:Thank you. My dad doesn't fish, and he doesn't have time to. He works all the time, sadly. I got into it myself when I was younger.
I already asked why and like I said, they think I'll only fish for another 2-3 years until I go to college or something.
Like I said earlier, its not a big deal if I don't get one now, but I just got so excited after being able to finally get on the water that I just was thinking about getting my own instead of borrowing my friend's kayak.
I think you've already answered your own questions. You've talked about your heritage, mentioned your current grades, your father's work ethics, and you can't miss the fact that your parents have a future planned out for you at a university that will give you the chance to be even more successful than they obviously are. That's a parent's job. They very well could be concerned about safety, but my money is on the thought of you spending more time in the kayak than in the books. So how do you get your Yak?
It's time to have a long serious talk with Mom & Dad. Don't discuss what you want first, but find out what they want. Maybe there is some middle ground between your work (both school and in the dish room) and the potential for rewards on a job well done. Might have to agree to limit the usage of the kayak, or have it restricted based on future performance. Your parents might be much more agreeable to something if they feel they still have control, and at 15 years of age, they honestly should.
At the very worst, you'll still be without your boat, but you'll at least have a better understanding of your parents.
Good Luck!
My guess is the two main reasons is cost and storage. Maybe they are on a strict budget or not sure where you would keep it. Just let them know how much you want it. You said you are 15, where I live Krogers hires 15 year olds to bag the groceries. Can you get a locsl job like that and make your own money to buy it?
There were a LOT of things I couldn't do when I was 15. Take heart in knowing that delayed gratification is a valuable discipline to possess. Perhaps this isn't your parents motivation but regardless, it will carry you when times are lean.
Just wondering, are these good choices if I do happen to get a kayak?
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=31609916&cp=4406646.4413993.4414792.32954906
or
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11279269&cp=4406646.4413993.4414792.32954906
I'm open to any other suggestions too. Sit on tops only. Also I'd like to keep it at 600 dollars or less. I'm going to try to buy new, so no used please.
well, being asian, is it the not working or studying thing that may want them to keep you from this? In your culture work and school are so important they may think that it will distract you from what they think is important. No time for play.
On 7/17/2014 at 3:53 AM, alee17 said:Just wondering, are these good choices if I do happen to get a kayak?
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=31609916&cp=4406646.4413993.4414792.32954906
or
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11279269&cp=4406646.4413993.4414792.32954906
I'm open to any other suggestions too. Sit on tops only. Also I'd like to keep it at 600 dollars or less. I'm going to try to buy new, so no used please.
Either of those are fine. You'll be able to modify either to fit your needs nicely.
You would still do better on the used market. But I digress. ....
have the field and stream and like it. got it for $399 on sale so dont pay full retail.
you have to put a better seat in it.
it will cost $100 more than you kayak to get on the water. paddle,lifevest,drybag,waterproof cell phone case.
get a job and earn money from someone besides your parents.
I'm thinking that they have high aspirations for you and ones that, it sounds like, you can easily live up to. They see fishing as a distraction to your future studies, and they are right! College is tough, and not really the time in your life that you should be seriously fishing.
Maybe you could find a cheap float tube, just to get you off the shore. Something you could easily sell before college. The next couple years will pass quickly, so don't dwell on this too much.
On 7/16/2014 at 12:00 PM, Missourifishin said:You're 15. So take solace in the fact that in a few years no one will be able to tell you what to spend your money on if you earned it yourself.
And then few years later he'll get married and be back to following orders again.
Alee, threaten to stay in your parents house after you graduate college.
That could be all they need as incentive to get you that beautiful kayak.
Might not be the best thing but it always seemed effective for me, I would always tell my parents that I do good in school do anything you ask of me and bring up how I'm a good kid and don't do drugs or hang out with the wrong crew it's worth a try .
Don't get married until you're 30 or have kids until you're 35. Then you can kayak til your arms fall off!
Not to throw gas on any fire here, but if you can come by some VERY compromising photos or your mom or day, you will probably find their consent easier to come by. Historically, compromising information has been used to achieve consent in a wide variety of situations.
Achieving parental consent can be a challenge - put your mind on it.
On 7/20/2014 at 1:50 AM, Fishes in trees said:Not to throw gas on any fire here, but if you can come by some VERY compromising photos or your mom or day, you will probably find their consent easier to come by. Historically, compromising information has been used to achieve consent in a wide variety of situations.
Achieving parental consent can be a challenge - put your mind on it.
this might be the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard and by no means builds any trust. Way to go, encouraging a kid to blackmail his parents.
Sounds like you're serious about fishing, and your parents are serious about your education. If this is the case, your best bet may be to present them with the prospect of fishing in college. Nowadays, most colleges have fishing teams. If you can balance the two at a young age, there's a possibility that you can fish on a college team and possibly land a scholarship. You can use the angle that a kayak would be a good introduction to fishing on a boat.
Flyfisher - are you humor challenged? Lighten up already - my post was a joke. If you couldn't see the humor in it, well, I don't know - tough I guess. All jokes don't work for everyone.