How do you get your boat to the lake?
I wish I could drive! ;D
I WALK OUT MY BACK DOOR , GET IN THE BOAT GO DOWN SIX HOUSES AND TURN INTO THE NEXT CANAL GO FOUR HOUSES AND I'M ON THE LAKE.
My mom drives me
Chevy all the way.
I owned a boat before I owned a vehicle. So the mom drives me wasnt far off years ago. Although I took my dads F150 until it broke down and wouldnt haul the boat up the ramp.
I run a 02' Stratos 21 XL Magnum($25,000)I pull with a 78' Suburban($500).You should see the looks I get at the ramp.
1999 F150 Nascar Edition
my mom or dad drives me and my boat to the lake, but I get my license in july so I dont have to much longer
QuoteI run a 02' Stratos 21 XL Magnum($25,000)I pull with a 78' Suburban($500).You should see the looks I get at the ramp.
CJ, I know what you mean. I get some crazy looks but for the opposite reason: 2005 Acura MDX (north of 40 grand) and a 14' jon w/ a Minn Kota ($900)
Funny you should ask this. My Fix Or Repair Daily aka FORD just broke down. I just got home from bringing it home. I drive a ford ranger. It has now stranded me at school twice. The only way it works is if I keep my foot on the gas the whole time. It doesnt idle. Can NEone guess what is wrong. I want to buy a chevy colorado.
FORD.
As long as it is a Ford or Chevy it is cool with me.
You can keep your Non-American cars >
Jeff
Jnamo, While I appreciate your patriotic spirit I don't think it is necessary to slam non GM/Ford vehicles with racial slurs. When either of these two companies can come up with a mid sized suv comparable to the Toyota 4Runner in quality and reliability I'll be more than happy to take a look at it. Mine was built right here in the good ole USA by hard working Americans. Here's some information to enlighten you. Toyota (NYSE: TM) established operations in North America in 1957 and
currently operates fourteen manufacturing plants including two under
construction. There are more than 1,700 Toyota, Lexus and Scion dealerships
in North America which sell more than 2.5 million vehicles a year. Toyota
directly employs over 38,000 in North America and its investment here is
currently valued at more than $16.3 billion, including sales and manufacturing
operations, research and development, financial services and design. Toyota's
annual purchasing of parts, materials, goods and services from North American
suppliers totals more than $26 billion.
According to a 2005 Center for Automotive Research study, Toyota, along
with its dealers and suppliers, has generated nearly 400,000 U.S. jobs,
including jobs created through spending by direct, dealer and supplier
employees.
I own an american and an import...The import has never left me stranded.
It doesn't matter what you drive.Remember this...The Nike's that you are probably wearing are made in Korea.
QuoteFunny you should ask this. My Fix Or Repair Daily aka FORD just broke down. I just got home from bringing it home. I drive a ford ranger. It has now stranded me at school twice. The only way it works is if I keep my foot on the gas the whole time. It doesnt idle. Can NEone guess what is wrong. I want to buy a chevy colorado.
Do yourself a favor buy a toyota at least you won't have to work on it everyday and know you have a dependable long lasting truck
QuoteFORD.As long as it is a Ford or Chevy it is cool with me.
You can keep your Jap cars >
Jeff
Yeah ford and chevy's are nice cars and trucks you get alot of practice working on them, But me I think I stick with my never has let me down jap car I don't like busting my knuckles up working on a vehicle
I will be taking my boat to the lake using my Chevy Z71 and then taking it to my new boat stall at Lakeview Marina, on Bull Shoals Lake.
Dale Earnhardt Jr. has made me a Chevy man and my Ford Ranger has made me .... uh .. um.... a good mechanic.
QuoteFORD.As long as it is a Ford or Chevy it is cool with me.
You can keep your Jap cars >
Jeff
yeah no need for the racial slurs i hope one of the moderaters will delete this post
You all are right about my mis-use of words. I fixed it and apologize to anyone that I may have offended.
I have several generations of family members that worked for the American auto companies and I live in SE Mich. whose entire economy is based on the sales of American automotive companies.
I have a question. Why is it that whenver someone says they drive a chevy or ford, that is all they say. But when someone says they drive a Foreign car, they have to add about the reliability and the jobs that these manufactors created? Is it shame? Are you embarrassed and need to justify your reasoning?
By the way, I have owned 2 Tauruses and both had near 200,000 miles and 12 years on them when I donated them to charity. All they ever needed was routine maintenance and alternators/batteries. My 94 dodge minivan has 160,000 miles and is running strong. There are a lot of cars out there with a gazillion miles on them. The foreign car owners like to huff and puff about them in what I believe is a guilt motivated justification. The majority of those cars are sold in Southern States that don't have all of the salt and winters to contend with.
Just my thoughts, have at it boys! Jeff
Here we go again.
QuoteIt doesn't matter what you drive.Remember this...The Nike's that you are probably wearing are made in Korea.
The difference is that I have a choice to buy an american car or a foriegn one. If you can show me a company that makes shoes in America (at a normal price), I would buy them. The only reason I dont is ignorance on my own part. Not a conscious decision.
My shoes are Sonoma ( made in China) sold at Kohls. I hate nike shoes, they are overpriced and cheap.
Here we go again, Jeff
Hey, my GMC (which isn't on the list and it's not a chevy) has 289,000 miles. Maybe it's time for a new truck, but man I just love that truck. ;D ;D
Aren't Chevy's the only thing that will pull a boat properly?
F150 for a towing vehicle.Nike,Reebok,and adidas to fish in.Toyota is a very dependable truck.Last one I owned,I gave it to my Dad with 300,000 miles on it.He sold it when it reached 500,000 miles.My next truck will be a Toyota.
Jeff, The reality of the situation is that I wasn't going to post anything about Toyota. I simply checked it off on the survey and read the thread. I felt your jap comment needed a response. The only person starting anything on here was you.....several times to be exact. Believe me I don't feel any of this so called "guilt or embarrassment" about owning Toyotas or about buying Shimano reels. This hard working American is about trying to get the best value for his money. I'm not really understanding your other informative tidbit about people in the south buying import cars. I live in Maine. The roads are covered with ice, snow and salt for almost half the year. I'll just say that the only vehicle in my yard showing the beginning signs of rust is not a Toyota and its a year newer. I like alot of American vehicles. What I'm not too big on are your snide racist comments and unfounded generalizations.
I pull my boat to the lake with a Nissan Titan. I lvoe the power and space of that truck.
Shoes made in America at a reasonable price. Vans shoes.Since 1966.
Dodge is making a huge push for the top spot over Chevy.
I take Hwy 15 to Hwy 127 then a left turn at the sign. ;D
Oh yeah....Global Economy...ride that wave or get crushed by it.
I have a 99 Sonoma 2.2/ 5speed, 2001 3500 Dually Dodge 360/ 5speed, 84 CJ7 Jeep 4.2/ 4speed, all ready willing and capable of pulling the boat. If I want a sun burned head I take the Jeep.
Chev. SILVERADO 2006
Sometimes I forget I even have a boat behind it til I get to Mc Donalds and the trailer tire hits the curb. Oh well.
QuoteHey, my GMC (which isn't on the list and it's not a chevy) has 289,000 miles. Maybe it's time for a new truck, but man I just love that truck. ;D ;D
Chevy/GMC...same thing
Quotehave a 99 Sonoma 2.2/ 5speed
close to my tow vehicle...
2001 chevy s-10 2.2 liter, 5 speed. 130,000 miles and still pulls my 17' glass bass boat nicely. Just chuck the back tire to make it easier to operate the clutch while pulling up the boat.
I guess we got off what we drive and onto free trade. So, here's my two cents worth:
Yes, Toyota operates US plants and provide Americans jobs; however, many of the parts are still (and will probably always be) made in Japan. Now I don't have a problem with this except for two things: Number one, US auto companies can't open plants in Japan, because the Japanese government doesn't allow this; and number two, American cars don't sell in Japan not due to poor quality but because Japan slaps huge tariffs on American products and forces American cars to comply with unrealistic inspection standards.
If the US government adopted the Japanese system tomorrow the number of Toyotas sold in the US would be zero, except for the diehards who'd be willing to pay $200,000 for a basic Camry.
American companies and American workers produce the best quality products in the world; given a level playing field there's nobody who can compete with America. Unfortunately our government allows (even encourages) unfairness.
As for "reliability" - having worked on American, European, and Japanese autos and trucks for several years I assure you the "foreign reliability" myth is just that, a myth. They break down as often as American autos and in most cases are more difficult and more expensive to fix.
Personally I'll take my good ol' US Dodge Ram any day over anything Toyota makes or will ever make. Of course it was made in Mexico, so I suppose its a good ol' Mexican truck! Ole!
Pscarbor, you've made some interesting points and I enjoyed reading your post. While I don't think it would take very much research regarding the reliability of the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord over the past 10 years to debunk your "import myth" theory we are all certainly entitled to our own opinions. I've had some American made vehicles that were standouts in the long term reliability department. The star of the domestic show being a 1990 Ford Taurus that I am sure is still alive somewhere. Ford never should have discontinued this car. On the other end of the spectrum the least reliable vehicle I ever owned was an import....a Land Rover. The three best that I have ever owned in terms of reliablilty, design and resale value were all Toyotas...two 4Runners and a Land Cruiser. I've never had a major repair on any of them. I replaced an alternator on the Cruiser when it was 17 years old. It cost 40 dollars. I just don't see this level of quality with my friend's Explorers and Blazers. My Ford Windstar van is on its third transmission and it's the newest vehicle in my yard. About Japan, I too would like unfetterd access to their market. Some would gripe about American jobs going overseas but it would certainly help the bottom line at General Motors and Ford. Damler/Chrysler seems immune from the slide in American car sales. I think it is because they are creating vehicles that people want to buy. No one wants to see GM or Ford in chapter eleven. Unfortunately neither of them are bringing a mid sized suv to market that will stimulate me to help them out with a purchase.
I used to read the Detroit News papers and laugh. On the front page there would be an article about Ford or GM recalling 100,000 vehicles because of some problem. Then on page nine in some little blurb of an article there would be the story about BMW recalling 350,000 because of seat belt failure or something. Same with the Japanese companies, all of their recall articles were in the back of the paper in an article about 3x 3. The big 3, it gets front page in 3 tall letter type. This was in Detroit! Makes me wonder?
I thought Dodge uses Mitsubishi motors which comes from overseas... right or wrong?
My sister once owned a '99 Dodge Avenger and right when you open the hood, the front plate on the motor said MITSUBISHI. Half of that d**n car was foreign made. I think the only true american made vehicles are Ford and GM.
QuoteI guess we got off what we drive and onto free trade. So, here's my two cents worth:Yes, Toyota operates US plants and provide Americans jobs; however, many of the parts are still (and will probably always be) made in Japan. Now I don't have a problem with this except for two things: Number one, US auto companies can't open plants in Japan, because the Japanese government doesn't allow this; and number two, American cars don't sell in Japan not due to poor quality but because Japan slaps huge tariffs on American products and forces American cars to comply with unrealistic inspection standards.
If the US government adopted the Japanese system tomorrow the number of Toyotas sold in the US would be zero, except for the diehards who'd be willing to pay $200,000 for a basic Camry.
American companies and American workers produce the best quality products in the world; given a level playing field there's nobody who can compete with America. Unfortunately our government allows (even encourages) unfairness.
As for "reliability" - having worked on American, European, and Japanese autos and trucks for several years I assure you the "foreign reliability" myth is just that, a myth. They break down as often as American autos and in most cases are more difficult and more expensive to fix.
Personally I'll take my good ol' US Dodge Ram any day over anything Toyota makes or will ever make. Of course it was made in Mexico, so I suppose its a good ol' Mexican truck! Ole!
american cars do sell in japan they are not in a large popular demand but there are more than a few fords and chevys on the road over there along with several dealerships american cars are not as popular over there because of size the vechiles over there are much much smaller they dont have the tundras and tacomas over there either the roads are not wide enough to fit those full size vechiles the freeways are but all the housing is on backroads and trust me my dakota wouldnt make it thru them backroads the little tiny 2 cylinders they drive over there have to pull all the way over on the side of the road just to let someone coming from the opposite direction get by so its more than just japan setting outragous standards for american autos if it wont fit it wont work especially 95% of the people there live in apartments and theres no way to fit the vechiles we drive here
I live right on Seneca River.... Takes about 5 mins to get to Cross Lake in the 27' Checkmate Convinser... but thats my dads boat. Im buying a 16' bass boat this year. Just savin up a little more, car insurance is a killer (180/month) It sucks...
I use a 1999 GMC Jimmy to tow a Tracker Targa 17SC.
I just wait for one of my friends to say 'lets go fishin', and then I just hop into whatever they are driving. ;D
QuoteWhile I don't think it would take very much research regarding the reliability of the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord over the past 10 years to debunk your "import myth" theory we are all certainly entitled to our own opinions.
I was speaking from personal experience - building and racing cars has been a hobby of mine for a number of years.
The absolute hands down best vehicle I ever owned was a Datsun 240Z. I made the mistake of selling it; a few years later I bought a 280Z. It was - lets say, "ok". Sold that one, years later bought a 300ZX Turbo, which was hands down one of the three WORST vehicles I ever owned (the other two being a Toyota and a Fiat). Based on that alone I'd say "Japanese quailty" took a nose dive from 1972 on.
I've also owned a couple of Toyotas, another Nissan, and a MG. Have helped friends work on numerous foriegn cars and trucks. Add to that several Ford, GM, and Chrysler products.
As for the "Mitsibushi engine" - My Dodge has a Cummings diesel, of course! Mitsibushi hasn't made a decent engine since the one they put in the Zero (which was a Howard Hughes design).
By the way, I also thought the "Jap" reference was a bit racist. The PC term is "rice burner" (yeah, I've owned a few bikes too).