I would love to get into fishing from a Kayak but I am over the weight limit for most of the smaller Kayak's. Suggestions for fishing kayaks for the "Fluffy" guys.
As a portly guy myself who just got into kayak fishing, there are tons of models to try...
WS Commander (hybrid) and Ride (SOT)
Jackson Cuda (SOT) and Big Tuna (tandem-able SOT)
Old Town Predator (SOT)
Native Ultimate series (hybrid)
And others, I'm sure.
I wound up buying a WS Ride 115 and I love the thing. I detailed my evaluations elsewhere, and would link the post if you think it would be helpful.
Best advice: Find a good retailer, and get as much butt-time in the seat of the candidate boats as possible. You'll be surprised how 'different' the boats can feel and how quickly you'll find things you love/hate.
My #1 choice would be a PA 12 or 14, but the following will work fine. Fishing kayaks are designed with big guys in mind.
Ride 115x or 135, Prowler Big game, Big Tuna, Malibu Stealth, Commander 12 or 14, and Moken 12.5 or 14 are a few reputable models that come to mind.
I would love the PA 12 but MAN ... what a pricetag!
On 9/4/2013 at 4:05 AM, Felix77 said:I would love the PA 12 but MAN ... what a pricetag!
Indeed! I'd love a PA, but for the price of entry.
Native is releasing new Ultimate models with new design and even greater stability to an already phenomenally stable kayak.
If you want to stand and fish, Native Ultimates, Slayers are models to consider. The Wilderness Systems models mentioned are solid as well. But do try to either get out in each, or at the very least, see if they'll let you sit in the models to compare them.
I also looked at Moken yaks, but settled on the U12 even over the WS Commander, as I much preferred the standing ability in, and seat in the U12. That's why you want to try 'em for yourself. What fits my taste may not fit yours.
On 9/4/2013 at 5:20 AM, DarrenM said:Indeed! I'd love a PA, but for the price of entry.
Native is releasing new Ultimate models with new design and even greater stability to an already phenomenally stable kayak.
If you want to stand and fish, Native Ultimates, Slayers are models to consider. The Wilderness Systems models mentioned are solid as well. But do try to either get out in each, or at the very least, see if they'll let you sit in the models to compare them.
I also looked at Moken yaks, but settled on the U12 even over the WS Commander, as I much preferred the standing ability in, and seat in the U12. That's why you want to try 'em for yourself. What fits my taste may not fit yours.
Thanks ... Native Ultimates is one I have never heard of before. I have all winter to look so I will try and get out to these places and sit in them at the store to weed out some of them.
If I can find demo days that would be ideal!
You need to get seat time to really get a feel for what you like best. Otherwise, you'll just learn to settle with what you know.
NuCanoe frontier 12'. Some ridiculous weight rating of 500-600 lbs? Super solid platform too... it is a bit pricey though
X2 on the nucanoe. I love mine. Can easily stand up in without the slightest hint of tipping. Can even stand and paddle around. Tons of rigging options and space for gear.
Did y'all go with the 10 or 12 model Frontier?
On 9/7/2013 at 3:34 AM, BassNoobie said:Did y'all go with the 10 or 12 model Frontier?
I went with the 12 ft. 10 footer wasn't out when I bought mine. I dont think I would sacrifice the 2 ft for the few lbs difference.
Hobie Pro Angler 14 has 600lbs capacity.
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Had been looking at the old town predator but the nucanoe looks promising
i'd give a serious look at the NuCanoe Frontier 12, 650# capacity, insanely stable to stand & is 41" wide...girlfriend has one and when testing it, we both could stand up in it at the same time no problem'o...
Pay attention to the hull weights. Not all are measured the same, and remember - you have to get the thing on top of your ride after a long day of fishing.
I was thinking about getting a Freedom Hawk Kayak 14 footer. I think it will balance pretty well for anyone under 300lb.
I was also thinking of putting an I-Pilot in the front and just remote around. Including that, I would put in the new Micro Power Pro anchor in the back.
Anchoring the kayak and using the "N button or North Button" on the i-pilot to pivot in one direction for balance fishing.
I used to paddle a FH 14 and 12 Ultra lite. Great, stable boats for fishing. If you are going to paddle distance, I'd look elsewhere. Not the fastest or best tracking boats. I like to fish off the back, between the kick out sponsons, with my back leaning on the casting rail.
I really liked this boat for small waters:
On 9/8/2013 at 5:51 AM, flipin4bass said:The Wilderness Systems Ride 135, not as fast as the Tridents, but with its weight capacity of 550 lbs and superior stability, it's one tough kayak. I love the new knotright camo.
Wow I think I just found the perfect yak for me.
On 9/12/2013 at 12:35 AM, Master Bait said:Wow I think I just found the perfect yak for me.
I own this yak and it is awesome. Although it is a tad heavy, but I learned how to load it by myself with little trouble on a minivan. I own the sand color though, love this kayak. Should tide me over for a few years until the finances let me get a bass boat.
On 9/12/2013 at 11:27 PM, lmbfisherman said:I own this yak and it is awesome. Although it is a tad heavy, but I learned how to load it by myself with little trouble on a minivan. I own the sand color though, love this kayak. Should tide me over for a few years until the finances let me get a bass boat.
I have a cheapo FB trophy 126 which gets the job done, but that literally looks perfect for the fishing I do. Makes me wish I had another $600 laying around
I used to be about 270lbs fishing from a 10'6 future beach trophy 126. I floated lol. I sold it this summer and plan on getting this. Thing is a TANK
http://www.basspro.com/Ascend-FS128T-SitOnTop-Angler-Kayak-Desert-Storm/product/12102505321115/
On 9/13/2013 at 3:12 AM, Scorcher214 said:I used to be about 270lbs fishing from a 10'6 future beach trophy 126. I floated lol. I sold it this summer and plan on getting this. Thing is a TANK
http://www.basspro.com/Ascend-FS128T-SitOnTop-Angler-Kayak-Desert-Storm/product/12102505321115/
I was at BassPro just yesterday looking at this Yak. It does look awesome. Seat leaves a lot to be desired though.
and for the record it is a TANK.
I need to get a kayak for my nephew who weighs 320 pounds. What is a nice but low cost fishing kayak for that kind of weight?
In all honesty, a person's size is not the true limiting factor in which kayak to choose, so your nephew at 320lbs is only one factor in the decision. The true factor is his case is which kayak will he be able to enter and exit from while still being able to paddle/pedal and fish comfortably in. All too often, people focus on how they are going to use the kayak and completely miss the boat (pardon the pun) on sizing the kayak for them and the gear that they carry. Your gear alone (depending on whether you are a gear junkie or a minimalist) can add anywhere from 15-50lbs to your kayak.
In your case, I would venture to say that your choices are going to be limited to one of the following, based simply on a hull's maximum load capacity:
Paddle-based:
Ocean Kayak Big Game Prowler - 550-600Lbs.
Native Slayer 14.5 - 450lbs.
Native Ultimate 14.5 solo - 450lbs.
Wilderness Systems Ride 135 - 550lbs.
Wilderness Systems Commander 140 - 475lbs.
Jackson Big Tuna - 500lbs.
Jackson Big Rig - 500-600lbs. (planned 12/2013 release)
NuCanoe Frontier 12 - 650lbs.
Pedal-based: (pricier but worth consideration)
Hobie Pro Angler 12 - 500lbs.
Hobie Pro Angler 14 - 600 lbs.
Native Slayer Propel 13 - should be the same as other Slayers at 450lbs.
Ones that you should probably not consider based upon manufacturer's specs only (no personal bias or experience):
Old Town Predator MX - max load is only 375-400lbs
Old Town Predator 13 - max load is only 400-425lbs.
KC Kayaks - no specs available on their site (call them to confirm the load capacity)
Native Mariner 12.5 - max load is only 400lbs
FS128T Ascend - max load is only 350lbs
Diablo Paddlesports Adios - max load 400lbs
Now this is not to say that other brands shouldn't be considered, I am just giving you the max load capacities as a means to help you narrow down your realistic options while still affording your nephew room to move about, fish comfortably and feel safe on the water.
Thanks for that summary Hanover_Yakker! This is very helpful being a buff 325 myself.
If you get seat time, consider the gear you'll be bringing. Some boats behave dramatically different the lower they sit in the water. For instance, big boys don't have as many issues with tracking in the Prowler Big Game as I do, at a buck-fitty wet, lol. For me, a steerable skeg was required, whereas it isn't for bigger guys. That's a case a case where weight is better - there are cases where it's worse. The Freedomhawk boats come to mind here.
i was looking at the hobie pro angler 14 but from the pictures of the 13 model the seat doesnt look very wide
On 9/24/2013 at 1:37 AM, Dramer77 said:i was looking at the hobie pro angler 14 but from the pictures of the 13 model the seat doesnt look very wide
It's probably one of the biggest seats in the industry.
On 9/24/2013 at 1:39 AM, J Francho said:It's probably one of the biggest seats in the industry.
the new model has a different seat with rails one it
http://static.hobiecat.com/digital_assets/pro-angler-14-studio-3-4-yellow-shadowed.png
Still the biggest. It's like a lawn chair, lol.
Another pedal drive boat to look at is the Native Mariner 12.5. I believe it has a 500lb or so capacity.
No takers on the Moken series of Kayaks I noticed. Anyone have experience with those?
I used a Moken 13 back when I taught kayak fishing classes. It felt tippy when standing at first, due to the hull design, but there was a ton of secondary stability. You just had to keep the hull "cocked," much like the original Ride 135. It had a few cool features, like little rod rests on the front hatch, and tracked really well.
im 6 '1" and a light 250 i have no problems tipping in my nucanoe frontier 12 , also have a battery. livewell trolling motor etc..can stand and fish with ease ..
Nice boat jhef!
Very informative thread. Good luck on finding the right 'yak Felix77
I personally use a Wilderness System Ride 115. Im 5' 7" and 260. Its real stable. Depending on what type of water you are going to be fishing depends on length of yak youll want. If its maily open water like lakes and or the bay's/oceans then the longer ones will suit better, in the 13'+. But if you are going to fish maily rivers the shorter in the 11'-12' will be better. Only thing I do not like about the Ride 115 is its weight. I load mine on top of the cab of a 3/4 ton truck and it gets heavy lifting it up above your head.
Just discovered the new Old Towne Predator. Anyone get a chance to ride one of these?
I am on the big side and have lots of room in my Old Town Loon 138 and it is very stable. Handles rough water well and desent speed for its class.. They are made with Polylink 3 and are indestructable. Wheighs about 74lbs so not the lightest. Not in production but if might find a used one for a reaonable price.
I borrowed a Wilderness System Commander 120 for a river trip last year. I'm 6-2 230 and it was my first time in a yak. Very stable and comfortable even for a first timer.
I have used a Wilderness Systems,Pungo and feel its a good way to go because its a touring kayak with a good pointy bottom and well developed chines.You can move quickly and still have it be stable.Mine was 12 feet but still able to turn well.It tracks straighter than many kayaks and makes rowing easier to get from spot to spot when fishing.My Dad was a larger guy and he was perfectly comfortable.It may feel a little tipsy but the chines on the undersides kick in when you lean one way or another.Its not for standing in but stable and mobile very important when fishing.Another word of advice, get inexpensive soft,folding,high back stadium seats to put on the stock seat.they are cheap (10 bucks).Saves your back if you dont buy the more expensive seats that attach to the kayak.I used to row many many miles in bad conditions with that thing and have used many other kayaks.They are a little pricey but in my opinion worth it.
My Pungo was 700 bucks weighed 49 pounds.They may cost more today .