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First two BPT groups revealed for next week's kickoff 2024


fishing user avatar12poundbass reply : 

Both groups are stacked! This is going to be very interesting!

http://www.majorleaguefishing.com/article/breaking-news-first-mlf-bass-pro-tour-competition-groups-announced/21450


fishing user avatarMSWV reply : 

How many will move on from each group?  Im still confused bout this..  haha


fishing user avatarjbsoonerfan reply : 

20 from each group will move on to the knockout round.

 

My just for fun picks

 

Group A

Gary Klein

Casey Ashley

Mark Davis

Ish Monroe

Jared Lintner

Fred Roumbanis

Edwin Evers

Chris Lane

Justin Lucas

David Walker

Mike McClelland

Tommy Biffle

Russ Lane

Matt Lee

Ott DeFoe

Jacob Wheele

Keith Poche

Takahiro Omori

Jordan Lee

Tim Horton

 

Group B

Aaron Martens

Jeff Kriet

Skeet Reese

Brent Chapman

Luke Clausen

Gerald Swindle

Jason Christie

Todd Faircloth

Greg Hackney

Paul Elias

Cliff Crochet

Brent Ehrler

Anthony Gagliardi

Kevin VanDam

Bobby Lane

Mike Iaconelli

Fletcher Shryock

Mark Rose

Brandon Palaniuk

 


fishing user avatarEWREX reply : 

I'm still so up in the air about the format. I feel like the standard 5 bass limit format is so superior MLF's format. They also have a bunch of weird rules like penalties if a fish touches the deck of your boat. Having a hard time jumping on board with MLF right now.


fishing user avatarTnRiver46 reply : 
  On 1/25/2019 at 5:34 AM, EWREX said:

I'm still so up in the air about the format. I feel like the standard 5 bass limit format is so superior MLF's format. They also have a bunch of weird rules like penalties if a fish touches the deck of your boat. Having a hard time jumping on board with MLF right now.

Yeah it’s a little weird 


fishing user avatarTlauz reply : 

I love watching MLF.  I think the live score tracker has made it very interesting.  It seems like in most shows someone is always knocked out in the last 15 minutes.  I love how the score tracker affects guys and makes them change what they are doing.  I love watching BASS as well, but MLF has added a new element I really enjoy. 


fishing user avatarjbsoonerfan reply : 

I like the MLF format better. To me, it's all about who can find a pattern and catch fish. For me, that's what fishing is all about, catching fish. Catching 5 big fish is sometimes about luck. Catching 20 fish that weigh in at 40lbs and winning is more impressive to me. The guys that usually win when scores are low are the guys that luck into a 6lber, that's why I like to see the 40-50lb days where guys are weighing 20 or more fish.

 

Also, the live score tracker has to be an intimidating thing when you are not catching them.


fishing user avatarTnRiver46 reply : 

Well I at least found out I have the outdoor channel on directv


fishing user avatarBoatSquirrel reply : 

I like how on MLF an angler catches a fish, weighs it, and releases it as opposed to running it all over the lake in a livewell.  I would love to see more tournaments go to this format, even if it is for the best 5 fish.


fishing user avatarTroy85 reply : 

With the BPT, they do get two practice days.  That should give them time to locate some areas that hold bigger fish, as opposed to the MLF cup events where they show up with no info or time to practice.


fishing user avatarTnRiver46 reply : 
  On 1/25/2019 at 9:08 PM, BoatSquirrel said:

I like how on MLF an angler catches a fish, weighs it, and releases it as opposed to running it all over the lake in a livewell.  I would love to see more tournaments go to this format, even if it is for the best 5 fish.

Some of the best 5 fish tournaments weighed and released all but their biggest keeper. Watch lake Travis 2018 bass elite


fishing user avatarHawkeye21 reply : 
  On 1/25/2019 at 4:24 AM, MSWV said:

How many will move on from each group?  Im still confused bout this..  haha

Day 1  Group A of 40 fish.

Day 2  Group B of 40 fish.

Day 3  Group A of 40 fish again.  Top 20 advance.

Day 4  Group B of 40 fish again.  Top 20 advance.

Day 5  The top 20 from group A and B fish.  The top 10 advance.

Day 6  Final day with just the top 10.

  On 1/25/2019 at 5:34 AM, EWREX said:

I'm still so up in the air about the format. I feel like the standard 5 bass limit format is so superior MLF's format. They also have a bunch of weird rules like penalties if a fish touches the deck of your boat. Having a hard time jumping on board with MLF right now.

It's all about protecting the species.  Less time out of the water.  Less contact with surfaces like the carpet off the boat and shirts which can damage the slime coat on a bass.  No time sitting in a live well.  No culling systems.

 

I love it.


fishing user avatarEWREX reply : 
  On 1/26/2019 at 4:43 AM, Hawkeye21 said:

Day 1  Group A of 40 fish.

Day 2  Group B of 40 fish.

Day 3  Group A of 40 fish again.  Top 20 advance.

Day 4  Group B of 40 fish again.  Top 20 advance.

Day 5  The top 20 from group A and B fish.  The top 10 advance.

Day 6  Final day with just the top 10.

It's all about protecting the species.  Less time out of the water.  Less contact with surfaces like the carpet off the boat and shirts which can damage the slime coat on a bass.  No time sitting in a live well.  No culling systems.

 

I love it.

 

I understand that aspect of it and I am all for conservation of the species we all love. I still think the 5 bass limit prevails. You can still do catch, weigh, and release with the standard 5 bass bag rules. But also as a fan of the PRO competitive sport, going to a Bassmaster event is exciting to see the live weigh in.

 

MLF is just one of few organizations that uses the catch, weigh, and release out of the thousands of tournaments that happen yearly, professional or amatuer.


fishing user avatarHawkeye21 reply : 
  On 1/26/2019 at 4:58 AM, EWREX said:

 

I understand that aspect of it and I am all for conservation of the species we all love. I still think the 5 bass limit prevails. You can still do catch, weigh, and release with the standard 5 bass bag rules. But also as a fan of the PRO competitive sport, going to a Bassmaster event is exciting to see the live weigh in.

 

MLF is just one of few organizations that uses the catch, weigh, and release out of the thousands of tournaments that happen yearly, professional or amatuer.

 

I think the weigh in will be a thing of the past eventually although it will take a while.  It makes me cringe when I see those guys holding those big bass up in the air with their jaws all jacked up then knowing they're going to most likely be dumped pretty far from where they were caught.  I get it's fun and I fish in some tourneys like that but it is really worth it?


fishing user avatarEWREX reply : 
  On 1/26/2019 at 5:01 AM, Hawkeye21 said:

 

I think the weigh in will be a thing of the past eventually although it will take a while.  It makes me cringe when I see those guys holding those big bass up in the air with their jaws all jacked up then knowing they're going to most likely be dumped pretty far from where they were caught.  I get it's fun and I fish in some tourneys like that but it is really worth it?

 

I think the live weigh in is important. It's interaction with the sport and their fans. Professional anglers care about the well being of bass just as much as you, it is how they make their living after all. The mass amount of anglers who switched to MLF didn't do it because of the format, I can tell you that much lol.


fishing user avatarHawkeye21 reply : 
  On 1/26/2019 at 5:10 AM, EWREX said:

 

I think the live weigh in is important. It's interaction with the sport and their fans. Professional anglers care about the well being of bass just as much as you, it is how they make their living after all. The mass amount of anglers who switched to MLF didn't do it because of the format, I can tell you that much lol.

I know it wasn't the most important reason but they still think it's a benefit.  Better TV exposure too.  When it comes to sports, TV is more important than the live event.


fishing user avatar1simplemann reply : 
  On 1/25/2019 at 5:34 AM, EWREX said:

I'm still so up in the air about the format. I feel like the standard 5 bass limit format is so superior MLF's format. They also have a bunch of weird rules like penalties if a fish touches the deck of your boat. Having a hard time jumping on board with MLF right now.

IMO, There's nothing weird at about the penalties. It's all about fish care. If fact, I think the penalty should be higher for intentional boat flipping! I cringe when guys say " Get in the boat!" and then flip them in and they get slammed up against something. 1st. how would you feel if you were dropped from something that high. They can't talk but I bet they don't enjoy one bit. 2nd. It's a known fact carpet is very bad for their slime coat. It's about fish survival. if they swim off doesn't mean they are going to live. MLF should do their best to encourage the anglers to harm the fish  as little as possible. IMO, If a fish jumps off, that's a minor offense. 2 minutes. If they are intentionally flipped in, 5 minutes.  Incidental contact, 2 minutes. Every time a guy says "i don't care, it's worth the penalty" on national TV it encourages the same behavior on a recreational level. It will agree though that it's step in the right direction.


fishing user avatar12poundbass reply : 
  On 1/27/2019 at 11:39 PM, 1simplemann said:

I cringe when guys say " Get in the boat!" and then flip them in and they get slammed up against something. 1st. how would you feel if you were dropped from something that high. They can't talk but I bet they don't enjoy one bit.

What about when you set the hook and the hook pierces their mouth or when all three treble hooks pierce their body? 

 

Don't get me wrong I'm more conscious about my fish care and I make sure to keep them off from the carpet. Just wondering your take on the hooks. 


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 1/27/2019 at 11:39 PM, 1simplemann said:

IMO, There's nothing weird at about the penalties. It's all about fish care. If fact, I think the penalty should be higher for intentional boat flipping! I cringe when guys say " Get in the boat!" and then flip them in and they get slammed up against something. 1st. how would you feel if you were dropped from something that high. They can't talk but I bet they don't enjoy one bit. 2nd. It's a known fact carpet is very bad for their slime coat. It's about fish survival. if they swim off doesn't mean they are going to live. MLF should do their best to encourage the anglers to harm the fish  as little as possible. IMO, If a fish jumps off, that's a minor offense. 2 minutes. If they are intentionally flipped in, 5 minutes.  Incidental contact, 2 minutes. Every time a guy says "i don't care, it's worth the penalty" on national TV it encourages the same behavior on a recreational level. It will agree though that it's step in the right direction.

 

  On 1/27/2019 at 11:50 PM, 12poundbass said:

What about when you set the hook and the hook pierces their mouth or when all three treble hooks pierce their body? 

 

Don't get me wrong I'm more conscious about my fish care and I make sure to keep them off from the carpet. Just wondering your take on the hooks. 

I can see both sides of the coin here.

 And I am all about fish care.  And while I'll always handle the fish I catch with respect and do try to offer them the best chance to recover & survive, years of doing this has show that not all will and sometimes there's nothing I can do about it.  I do not see the need however, to overly complicate the process with rough handling; and you can define that however you want. 

    NO doubt the actual act of setting the hook, depending on the type of bait, can & often does do some pretty serious damage.  And the boat flip which ends up ricocheting off the console and the subsequent flopping on the deck for some time until the angler can get a hold of it, may not display the highest level of fish care either.

  Question is, can there be a happy medium ?  If we are willing to accept whatever internal (or even brain damage) a 6/0 Trokar Mag worm hook (which is like a gaff) does when a 200 lb man steps back to set it with all his might into the roof of the basses mouth (right between the eyes), then we may also have to accept whatever happens next.  

 

  Post catch 'fish care' in many instances may be like putting a Band-Aid on a gun shot wound but it's really all we can do.

:smiley:

A-Jay

 


fishing user avatarTnRiver46 reply : 
  On 1/27/2019 at 11:50 PM, 12poundbass said:

What about when you set the hook and the hook pierces their mouth or when all three treble hooks pierce their body? 

 

Don't get me wrong I'm more conscious about my fish care and I make sure to keep them off from the carpet. Just wondering your take on the hooks. 

What about when we call fish girls when they are actually males? That has to hurt ......


fishing user avatar12poundbass reply : 
  On 1/28/2019 at 12:27 AM, A-Jay said:

 

I can see both sides of the coin here.

 And I am all about fish care.  And while I'll always handle the fish I catch with respect and do try to offer them the best chance to recover & survive, years of doing this has show that not all will and sometimes there's nothing I can do about it.  I do not see the need however, to overly complicate the process with rough handling; and you can define that however you want. 

    NO doubt the actual act of setting the hook, depending on the type of bait, can & often does do some pretty serious damage.  And the boat flip which ends up ricocheting off the console and the subsequent flopping on the deck for some time until the angler can get a hold of it, may not display the highest level of fish care either.

  Question is, can there be a happy medium ?  If we are willing to accept whatever internal (or even brain damage) a 6/0 Trokar Mag worm hook (which is like a gaff) does when a 200 lb man steps back to set it with all his might into the roof of the basses mouth (right between the eyes), then we may also have to accept whatever happens next.  

 

  Post catch 'fish care' in many instances may be like putting a Band-Aid on a gun shot wound but it's really all we can do.

:smiley:

A-Jay

 

Since learning about the possible long term negative effects of fish laying on carpet, dirt, and any foreign (to them) objects I've made it a point to take care of them the best I can. Accidents do happen like you said, but safe handling, the occasional photo, weight taken, and immediate release is about all I can do. 


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 1/28/2019 at 1:02 AM, 12poundbass said:

Since learning about the possible long term negative effects of fish laying on carpet, dirt, and any foreign (to them) objects I've made it a point to take care of them the best I can. Accidents do happen like you said, but safe handling, the occasional photo, weight taken, and immediate release is about all I can do. 

Yup.

A-Jay 


fishing user avatar1simplemann reply : 
  On 1/27/2019 at 11:50 PM, 12poundbass said:

What about when you set the hook and the hook pierces their mouth or when all three treble hooks pierce their body? 

 

Don't get me wrong I'm more conscious about my fish care and I make sure to keep them off from the carpet. Just wondering your take on the hooks. 

My take on hooks is that  it's part of the game and can't be helped. With that being said, I don't advocate snagging fish either. ( They do this here in MT for paddlefish. Different subject but I hope you get my point) What can be helped is throwing a fish in boat that the angler intends on releasing anyway. MLF says they are protecting the species. If so then then they should protect them. IMO The 2 minute penalty doesn't go far enough. It's a good start though. Fish care is getting better. How many times have you seen a dink fall off and bounce around all over? I just watched MLF the other day and some of the guys were hanging the dinks off the edge so they wouldn't fall in the boat if they fell off. For me, I just hate it when I see intentional boat flipping on the various circuits on TV. It just encourages bad fish care. Also I don't care to see anglers hanging a fish vertically to show it off for the camera. I've done it myself so I'm a bad example. I'm trying to get better and try to encourage other's in my boat to do the same. However,  I'm one man, in one boat but I try to do my part to encourage better fish care. MLF has a national audience. Their impact on fish care could go a long ways. If a guy's favorite angler (KVD or whoever) isn't boat flipping them them most likely he won't either on a recreational or competitive level.

  On 1/28/2019 at 1:02 AM, 12poundbass said:

Since learning about the possible long term negative effects of fish laying on carpet, dirt, and any foreign (to them) objects I've made it a point to take care of them the best I can. Accidents do happen like you said, but safe handling, the occasional photo, weight taken, and immediate release is about all I can do. 

You pretty much summed up how I try to treat the fish. I'm trying to get better.


fishing user avatarTeam9nine reply : 

My take on the penalties is that they are there primarily to convey that this MLF is a "sport" just like most any other you would watch on TV, with penalties for certain rules violations. It's what people are used to seeing/watching, and having "refs" and penalties suggests this format/event/sport is on the same level or playing field as other sports. Fish handling just happens to be an easy thing to target with the side benefit of appearing to be better for the fish.

 

As for the carpet thing, there is recent research that suggests specifically for bass, the concern/danger might be overblown. That said, I personally still like the penalty being assessed.


fishing user avatar1simplemann reply : 
  On 1/28/2019 at 1:42 AM, Team9nine said:

My take on the penalties is that they are there primarily to convey that this MLF is a "sport" just like most any other you would watch on TV, with penalties for certain rules violations. It's what people are used to seeing/watching, and having "refs" and penalties suggests this format/event/sport is on the same level or playing field as other sports. Fish handling just happens to be an easy thing to target with the side benefit of appearing to be better for the fish.

 

As for the carpet thing, there is recent research that suggests specifically for bass, the concern/danger might be overblown. That said, I personally still like the penalty being assessed.

Have you seen MLF's recent commercial? They are promoting better fish care. I don't think it's side benefit at all. True it might make for better TV but I think they truly trying to help the species.  As for this recent research, can you provide it? I'd like to read it. From what I've read, the opposite is true. I also like the idea of fish not bouncing around in a livewell all day. I've witnessed this 1st hand as a marshal and let me tell you they don't look pretty! My guy came in early just to have them weighed before they died because there was no way they were going to make it. It was business decision, not a fish care decision. MLF takes that decision away from the angler and helps the survival rate. I also like the penalty but IMO varying degrees of bad fish care should carry varying degrees of a  penalty. Other sports do the same. Major and minor penalties in hockey. Football has varying degrees penalties for the same infraction. If the MLF anglers set a good example on TV then there will be a trickle down effect to anglers in general. Ray Scott helped start it when he changed to rules years ago. MLF can do the same.


fishing user avatarEWREX reply : 
  On 1/27/2019 at 11:39 PM, 1simplemann said:

IMO, There's nothing weird at about the penalties. It's all about fish care. If fact, I think the penalty should be higher for intentional boat flipping! I cringe when guys say " Get in the boat!" and then flip them in and they get slammed up against something. 1st. how would you feel if you were dropped from something that high. They can't talk but I bet they don't enjoy one bit. 2nd. It's a known fact carpet is very bad for their slime coat. It's about fish survival. if they swim off doesn't mean they are going to live. MLF should do their best to encourage the anglers to harm the fish  as little as possible. IMO, If a fish jumps off, that's a minor offense. 2 minutes. If they are intentionally flipped in, 5 minutes.  Incidental contact, 2 minutes. Every time a guy says "i don't care, it's worth the penalty" on national TV it encourages the same behavior on a recreational level. It will agree though that it's step in the right direction.

 

to each their own. 


fishing user avatarTeam9nine reply : 
  On 1/28/2019 at 2:26 AM, 1simplemann said:

Have you seen MLF's recent commercial? They are promoting better fish care. I don't think it's side benefit at all. True it might make for better TV but I think they truly trying to help the species.  As for this recent research, can you provide it? I'd like to read it. From what I've read, the opposite is true. I also like the idea of fish not bouncing around in a livewell all day. I've witnessed this 1st hand as a marshal and let me tell you they don't look pretty! My guy came in early just to have them weighed before they died because there was no way they were going to make it. It was business decision, not a fish care decision. MLF takes that decision away from the angler and helps the survival rate. I also like the penalty but IMO varying degrees of bad fish care should carry varying degrees of a  penalty. Other sports do the same. Major and minor penalties in hockey. Football has varying degrees penalties for the same infraction. If the MLF anglers set a good example on TV then there will be a trickle down effect to anglers in general. Ray Scott helped start it when he changed to rules years ago. MLF can do the same.

I say that because you need to keep in mind that when MLF started, there were no penalties for fish handling violations. TV growth was the main objective, and Duckett even stated, "We're trying to build a sports product...This isn't about bass, and it isn't about a crankbait."  Fish handling violations came later (2013) and have been tweaked and added over the years.

 

As for the study, visit my website (link is in my profile). It's on the first page still, but I've also covered livewell damage recently and other stuff. Click the 'science' category link to see only science related posts.

 

 


fishing user avatar1simplemann reply : 
  On 1/28/2019 at 4:07 AM, Team9nine said:

I say that because you need to keep in mind that when MLF started, there were no penalties for fish handling violations. TV growth was the main objective, and Duckett even stated, "We're trying to build a sports product...This isn't about bass, and it isn't about a crankbait."  Fish handling violations came later (2013) and have been tweaked and added over the years.

 

As for the study, visit my website (link is in my profile). It's on the first page still, but I've also covered livewell damage recently and other stuff. Click the 'science' category link to see only science related posts.

 

 

Interesting read. Last year I read a much more in depth study on fish care and post release mortality. I wish I could find it and share it on here. Anyway, I came way surprised by the actual number of fish survival %.  It was much lower than I expected. Improper fish care was one of the leading causes of post release fish mortality. I'm going to look around and see if I can find it. Anyway, getting way off coarse here and kinda hijacked the thread. My apologies to the OP. My original post was to "MLF's weird rules". I don't think their rules are that weird at all and hopefully proper fish will encouraged or rather improper fish care will be discouraged. Peace out fellas! 


fishing user avatarOCdockskipper reply : 
  On 1/27/2019 at 11:50 PM, 12poundbass said:

What about when you set the hook and the hook pierces their mouth or when all three treble hooks pierce their body? 

Hooks that penetrate the mouth (not gills) are fine.  Bass eat plenty of creatures that stick them in the mouth with pinchers & dorsal fins and they probably even get the inside of their mouth bit & scratched when the grab small birds or mammals.  The inside of the mouth of most predator fish (bass, catfish, etc) was designed to hold up to that kind of wear & tear.

 

Foul hooking has the potential for damage, whether it blinds the fish or causes cuts that get infected.  The slime coat helps prevent infection, but can not regenerate an eye. 

 

That said, I caught a 6lb bass last year that was blind in one eye.  Other than that, she was healthy and strong, so that handicap was not completely debilitating.  I named her Sami, short for Sammy Davis Jr.


fishing user avatarOCdockskipper reply : 

Here is a negative that I just accidentally found out.  I was moving around the MLF page and looked at the current angler bio's, where they have wins & money earned listed.  They also have a separate category for MLF wins.  Well I happened to look at an angler who fished MLF last year for the 1st time and they have him with one MLF win.  That win had to have come from one of the episodes that hasn't been shown yet, that we will see in the coming months. 

 

That is the tough part about trying to mix taped for future viewing events and live events.  I won't name him here so as to not spoil future episodes for others.


fishing user avatarMSWV reply : 

Heres another aspect I just thought of..  Group A fishes on tuesday and (for example) Ott Defoe kills them on a bladed jig out of the muddiest part of the lake.  Group B watches on MLF Live and on Wednesday all the group is throwing a bladed jig in that area..  Maybe theyre not allowed to watch? but theyre gonna be working the expo.  Im sure someone will be telling them whats happening whether they want to know or not..  


fishing user avatarTeam9nine reply : 
  On 1/28/2019 at 10:27 PM, MSWV said:

Heres another aspect I just thought of..  Group A fishes on tuesday and (for example) Ott Defoe kills them on a bladed jig out of the muddiest part of the lake.  Group B watches on MLF Live and on Wednesday all the group is throwing a bladed jig in that area..  Maybe theyre not allowed to watch? but theyre gonna be working the expo.  Im sure someone will be telling them whats happening whether they want to know or not..  

A lot of new info restrictions have been put into place. They were covered on another popular bass fishing news site last week. Short answer - Anglers not fishing on a certain day won't be watching live coverage.


fishing user avatarOCdockskipper reply : 
  On 1/28/2019 at 10:51 PM, Team9nine said:

...Short answer - Anglers not fishing on a certain day won't be watching live coverage.

But how about their wives/girlfriends?  I know what the rules are, but how do you monitor pillow talk?

 

At least when everyone is fishing together, if information gets out about where & how you are catching them, you can protect an area.  If another pro hasn't been in that area for practice or day 1, it is less likely he will show up with you there on day 2 (except for Ike, he will barge in on anyone, anywhere, anytime).  With you gone, the angler with the least integrity will be the first to take advantage.


fishing user avatarTeam9nine reply : 
  On 1/29/2019 at 12:10 AM, OCdockskipper said:

But how about their wives/girlfriends?  I know what the rules are, but how do you monitor pillow talk?

 

At least when everyone is fishing together, if information gets out about where & how you are catching them, you can protect an area.  If another pro hasn't been in that area for practice or day 1, it is less likely he will show up with you there on day 2 (except for Ike, he will barge in on anyone, anywhere, anytime).  With you gone, the angler with the least integrity will be the first to take advantage.

They're all subject to polygraph and their no info rules are pretty straightforward. Not sure any of them would risk their professional careers on trying to get through a single round in any one event...but, you never know. Nothing is 100% enforceable with a no info rule. I'm not too worried about it, though.


fishing user avatarLogan S reply : 

The bigger 'issue' to me with the off days is the fact that when it gets down to the cut-day, one group will have been on the water the previous day and the other group will have been off.  I'd much prefer to be on the water every day...I think it's advantageous to those anglers that were on the water the previous day.  Yes, I know how things change and it may or may not be advantageous in every single circumstance...All I know is that if you gave me the general choice (like at start of season) of fishing the day before or not, I'm choosing to fish every time.  

 

The live shows are heavily discussed on forums like this one in pretty high detail...So even BASS/FLW guys could surf them in the evening to see what their competitors did that day.  It would probably be easier in MLF/BPT just due to the fact they won't be on the water all day, but if the anglers on any tour want to see that info they won't have a hard time finding it.  


fishing user avatarOCdockskipper reply : 
  On 1/29/2019 at 12:23 AM, Team9nine said:

...Not sure any of them would risk their professional careers...

I agree, for 99% of the anglers.  There is no way an Edwin Evers or Jason Christie, to randomly name a few, do anything like this.  The 1% is the problem, either the guy struggling to stay in the BPT, who somehow rationalizes that it is okay to bend the rules this one time (which leads to a next time & next time) or someone who looks at the world the same way it appears Nate Wellman does.

 

I would expect the anglers will do a bit of policing themselves.  There will be sharing of information between anglers and that can be used to keep poaching at a minimum.  On tournaments were they go to a different location after day 4, it doesn't hurt for a day 1/3 fisherman to tell his roommate (who is fishing days 2/4) about a spot in order to help the latter angler make the cut.


fishing user avatar12poundbass reply : 
  On 1/29/2019 at 1:42 AM, OCdockskipper said:

The 1% is the problem

It wouldn't take long for that 1% to surface. Just like pillow talk, I'm guessing they know who to trust and who not to trust, and I'm guessing the heads of the BPT know as well. 


fishing user avatarBassNJake reply : 
  On 1/29/2019 at 1:42 AM, OCdockskipper said:

I agree, for 99% of the anglers.  There is no way an Edwin Evers or Jason Christie, to randomly name a few, do anything like this.  The 1% is the problem, either the guy struggling to stay in the BPT, who somehow rationalizes that it is okay to bend the rules this one time (which leads to a next time & next time) or someone who looks at the world the same way it appears Nate Wellman does.

 

I would expect the anglers will do a bit of policing themselves.  There will be sharing of information between anglers and that can be used to keep poaching at a minimum.  On tournaments were they go to a different location after day 4, it doesn't hurt for a day 1/3 fisherman to tell his roommate (who is fishing days 2/4) about a spot in order to help the latter angler make the cut.

The sharing of information stops on the first official practice day.

There is no sharing of information between competitors during the tournament.

Gary Klein addressed this on a different site. Bass Fan

 

Under the “Tackle and Equipment” section, Rule 9.D states that “MLF Anglers can receive lures and other equipment from other MLF anglers up until 12:01 a.m. of the first official day of practice.” Additionally, under the No-Information Rule section, Rule 23.I states that “MLF Anglers are allowed to talk to other MLF Anglers about MLF event waters up until the first day of official practice.”

The latter rule has prompted some anglers who’ve traveled and stayed together in the past to opt to arrange separate accommodations so as to avoid running afoul of the new rules.

  On 1/29/2019 at 12:23 AM, Team9nine said:

They're all subject to polygraph and their no info rules are pretty straightforward. Not sure any of them would risk their professional careers on trying to get through a single round in any one event...but, you never know. Nothing is 100% enforceable with a no info rule. I'm not too worried about it, though.

The polygraph is the ticket to keep the anglers honest. It's something that hangs over their heads

 

Just ask Luke Clausen about his failed test with BASS that led to his disqualification from an event.

The polygraph caught a discrepancy on one of Luke's answers.

More questioning led to a Oh, I forgot about that one time...  type of moment.


fishing user avatarOCdockskipper reply : 
  On 1/29/2019 at 1:58 AM, BassNJake said:

The sharing of information stops on the first official practice day.

There is no sharing of information between competitors during the tournament...

I stand corrected.  Thanks for catching that, I missed it the first time through until I read that other site interview you mentioned.


fishing user avatarHawkeye21 reply : 

That was a pretty awesome first day.  Lots of fish caught and some quality fish caught.  Will be interesting to see how tomorrow compares to today.




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