Besides topwater. Needs to be weedless like a senko, these pads are thick
I use pegged texas rigs and flukes/stickbaits mostly. You either have to get through the top layer of pads or fish on top of them really.
Weightless flukes tend to come through the pads a little better if you can get them down through an opening though. Many times i wil lswitch from a stick bait to a fluke becasue the stickbait keeps getting hung on the pad stalks.
Swim jig with heavy braid
On 5/1/2014 at 2:34 AM, Tartan34 said:Swim jig with heavy braid
20 lb braid enough? Its all i've got
Faced thick pads on two bodies of water recently. Two different presentations with lots of hits on each, but both across the top. Frogs - dozen hits and zero hook-ups. Flukes skittered across the top and lots of hits and 90%+ hook-ups. I wouldn't have even tried to get under the surface at either lake. Even my most weedless presentations wouldn't have made it more than a couple feet successfully.
On 5/1/2014 at 2:36 AM, Choporoz said:Faced thick pads on two bodies of water recently. Two different presentations with lots of hits on each, but both across the top. Frogs - dozen hits and zero hook-ups. Flukes skittered across the top and lots of hits and 90%+ hook-ups. I wouldn't have even tried to get under the surface at either lake. Even my most weedless presentations wouldn't have made it more than a couple feet successfully.
Topwater hasn't worked here yet, the bass aren't quite ready it seems. And its chilly out 45 degrees
I'd go 50 min....20 would cause me problems in the FL pads I fish.
On 5/1/2014 at 2:36 AM, Weld said:20 lb braid enough? Its all i've got
On 5/1/2014 at 2:38 AM, Tartan34 said:I'd go 50 min....20 would cause me problems in the FL pads I fish.
that's why im looking for a weedless lure
The problem with fishing pads is after the fish takes your lure, you need to go after him or horse him out. 20# in the pads is asking for trouble. You need heavy braid when fishing pads, no matter what you are throwing, IMO.
On 5/1/2014 at 2:40 AM, Weld said:that's why im looking for a weedless lure
65 ib braid on my rig. I wouldn't even think about slowing down until u pick up a few on the swim jig. Not to mention heavy braid tends to cut threw the pads.
On 5/1/2014 at 2:44 AM, Tartan34 said:The problem with fishing pads is after the fish takes your lure, you need to go after him or horse him out. 20# in the pads is asking for trouble. You need heavy braid when fishing pads, no matter what you are throwing, IMO.
Would a senko on a jig work?
Tartan34 is correct. Getting them out of thick pads will require heavy braid and heavy rods. Flip 1/2 tungsten trigged and try and get em out quick!
On 5/1/2014 at 3:00 AM, Weld said:Would a senko on a jig work?
YES.
A-Jay
On 5/1/2014 at 4:14 AM, A-Jay said:YES.
A-Jay
How would you rig that ?
On 5/1/2014 at 4:33 AM, Weld said:How would you rig that ?
I would just thread it on the jig like you would any other trailer.. the weed guard on the jig is what's going to keep you from fouling up, not the senko.
Working any of these jig & trailer combinations through the pads is effective.
But be careful - you might get your arm broke.
A-Jay
Punch through them
Senko style bait
rip a swim jig through the pads.
Bobber stopper, punch weight, punch skirt, heavy straight shank, missile dbomb.
Drop it in and jiggle it yeah.
Yall think a 3/4 oz swim jig would stay under the pads on. Slow steady retrieve.
PM sent
In fishing from shore I use the saltwater thing we do with a boat when the blue fish or weak fish has the bait fish boiling up on the surface. We circle the schooling fish on the outside of the circle picking them off one by one. So we don't spook the fish to go deep. I do the with the bass in the pads I throw my spook 4' to 6' away from the pads and make the bass come out to get it. This was so I don't spook the other fish in the pads.
If the pads are thicker with no open water then I go weedless.
We had good success in pads swimming t-rigged senkos/swim senkos with a 1/16 tungsten screw weight - white turned out to be a killer in that situation, only time I ever had success with white stick baits. Braid of course.
50lb braid and a DIRTY JIGS SWIM JIG!
On 5/1/2014 at 2:34 AM, Tartan34 said:Swim jig with heavy braid
Just curious as to your setup because once pads form up here in Maine Ill throw a swim jig over a frog almost any day. I throw it on 65lb Power Pro without a leader. When I fish tournaments on lakes that have exceptional water clarity I have been adding a 3ft section of 20lb fluoro. Do you ever add a fluoro leader if the water is clear?
Everything mentioned will work, but my first choice would be a 1/2 oz. Johnson Silver Minnow. It's worked for me in these situations for almost 50 years. Be sure to sharpen the hook before using it. The plating process makes the hook dull. And add a trailer, either pork frog or some type of plastic (I mostly use a rubber spinnerbait skirt).
I can assure you, a JSM will catch some mighty big bass.
On 5/2/2014 at 1:24 AM, riverat said:Everything mentioned will work, but my first choice would be a 1/2 oz. Johnson Silver Minnow. It's worked for me in these situations for almost 50 years. Be sure to sharpen the hook before using it. The plating process makes the hook dull. And add a trailer, either pork frog or some type of plastic (I mostly use a rubber spinnerbait skirt).
I can assure you, a JSM will catch some mighty big bass.
How are you fishing that? Swimming, jigging? I'll be the 1st to admit this is one technique I SUCK at. Jig, weigh and plastic, hard for me to tell whats going on with all the contact and pulling of pad stems. I'm accustom to a lighter more finesse approach, so this will be a challenge. Granted i haven't given it much time.
I often throw a soft plastic frog (Zoom Horny Toad) in heavy pads. It weighs more than many plastics so the bass can track it easier when skittered over the pads, and it will sink into openings in the pads. 50 lb braid minimum. Swim jig, Senko, hollow frog are other good choices depending on exactly how thick the pads are and what kind of pads you have. Some lay flat on the water, some are emergent pads with leaves in the air. A spinnerbait or swim jig/bladed jig is good around the edges. It's all about efficiency. You often have to search through lots of pads to find where the fish are holding and whatever does that fast and efficiently is best. Once you find them, you can slow down and use a variety of lures.
On 5/2/2014 at 1:42 AM, Hogsticker said:How are you fishing that? Swimming, jigging? I'll be the 1st to admit this is one technique I SUCK at. Jig, weigh and plastic, hard for me to tell whats going on with all the contact and pulling of pad stems. I'm accustom to a lighter more finesse approach, so this will be a challenge. Granted i haven't given it much time.
In openings in the pads, I use a steady retrieve just fast enough to ge the full motion of the spoon. On top of the pads you can fish it as slow as you want to while twitching the bait - almost like a frog. When you get a strike keep reeling until you feel the weight of the fish and then use a sweeping motion to the side to set the hook.
One last tip if you decide to try this. Use heavy tackle. Like I said, the JSM will catch some mighty big bass.
On 5/1/2014 at 5:20 AM, iabass8 said:Punch through them
Senko style bait
rip a swim jig through the pads.
Do you let the swim jig go to the bottom or keep it on top?
I like to use a finesse jig when the pads are that thick. The jig doesn't sink into the tangle as fast.
Go with 65 pound braid and a small, compact creature bait like a pit boss with a pegged sinker.
I throw straight 50# Smackdown braid, but I've thought about adding a 20# leader. I fish really clear water, so I think it would help...but needed motivation. Thanks!
On 5/1/2014 at 8:43 PM, MainelyBASS said:Just curious as to your setup because once pads form up here in Maine Ill throw a swim jig over a frog almost any day. I throw it on 65lb Power Pro without a leader. When I fish tournaments on lakes that have exceptional water clarity I have been adding a 3ft section of 20lb fluoro. Do you ever add a fluoro leader if the water is clear?
On 5/2/2014 at 5:52 AM, tcbass said:Do you let the swim jig go to the bottom or keep it on top?
I keep it in the upper portion of the water column but below the surface. They won't always come up to hit a horny toad but will come up just a hair for a swim jig.
On 5/2/2014 at 10:44 AM, iabass8 said:I keep it in the upper portion of the water column but below the surface. They won't always come up to hit a horny toad but will come up just a hair for a swim jig.
How so you do that in the slop?