I was curious if anybody has tried this, and if the lure still ran ok? Would it be better to remove the rattles or just add some super glue and epoxy the hole? I've been expanding my lipless baits to try this year, but its hard to find different models in a silent version. I've ordered some from Japan, but this gets expensive. Some of the lakes I fish have very clear water so I want to try silent models.
I see where you're coming from with this. But personally, I think the rattle is what makes the lipless crank.
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QuoteI see where you're coming from with this. But personally, I think the rattle is what makes the lipless crank.
I would not do all my lipless baits, but I'd like to have more silent options in various models. I would think at times after getting hammered by loud rattling baits a silent bait may work better.
I'm not how removing the rattles would effect how the bait runs, or just add some glue. I may experiment with a cheaper model 1'st ;D
Sorry. It should work now.
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You bet it helps, especially when following someone through an area. I have drilled and quietened about a dozen of mine and at times they will blow the others away.
If silent is what you want just drill and fill it with super glue. Senko77 told me about it last year and it helps in high pressured lakes where lipless baits are favorites.
QuoteIf silent is what you want just drill and fill it with super glue. Senko77 told me about it last year and it helps in high pressured lakes where lipless baits are favorites.
A buddy did that to some of his Rat-L-Traps after the talk about it last year. It worked really well, added a bit of weight, and doesn't affect the action. The only problem was with the Red Craw patterned Rat-L-Trap that youo get at Wal-Mart, the one that used to say 2007 Bassmasters Classic winning bait. The glue had some sort of reaction with the plastic and pretty much melted, it still held its shape but you could bend the tail and it was really soft and gooey.
Long story short, that works well for rat-l-traps, never have seen it done on others but I'm sure it would work.
QuoteYou bet it helps, especially when following someone through an area. I have drilled and quietened about a dozen of mine and at times they will blow the others away.
Jack, how did you do it -superglue?
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so funny that post was from this exact time last year, one day off
QuoteQuotehttp://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1236472723/4#4so funny that post was from this exact time last year, one day off
'Tis lipless season, once again. But the bass 'er onto us!
I did it to one of my Traps, but I haven't tried it in the water yet. I replaced the rattles with fine sand and plugged the hole with Ace Hardware brand two part epoxy. The epoxy had no ill effect on the plastic. I figure the sand will not leave possible air pockets which may affect tracking.
QuoteQuoteQuotehttp://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1236472723/4#4so funny that post was from this exact time last year, one day off
'Tis lipless season, once again. But the bass 'er onto us!
;D
You know what...maybe this year I'll actually it.
QuoteI see where you're coming from with this. But personally, I think the rattle is what makes the lipless crank.
I disagree, even though I use the rattling version most of the time I have seen situations where the silent versions were a lot more effective especially in clear water. In one of KVD 's old books he talked about how he used to modify some of his rattle baits so that they ran silent.
QuoteQuoteYou bet it helps, especially when following someone through an area. I have drilled and quietened about a dozen of mine and at times they will blow the others away.Jack, how did you do it -superglue?
Yep, super glue. When you drill and glue them be sure to hang the lure by the rear treble while they dry to allow the rattles to settle forward. That will help the lure keep the nose down attitude.
QuoteQuoteQuoteYou bet it helps, especially when following someone through an area. I have drilled and quietened about a dozen of mine and at times they will blow the others away.Jack, how did you do it -superglue?
Yep, super glue. When you drill and glue them be sure to hang the lure by the rear treble while they dry to allow the rattles to settle forward. That will help the lure keep the nose down attitude.
Thanks, Jack.
I modify about half of my lipless crankbaits by taking out the metal or lead balls that make it rattle and adding back weight with a few different methods. I have used plumbers putty or water weld to seal it back or fill holes and can sand the bait back even. I am starting to experiment with filling the bait with the two part resin I use to make swimbaits and can use micro balloons in the resin to adjust the sink rates of the resin and bait. On the ones I have made so far it filled the bait but took two holes drilled. One to fill the bait with resin and another for the air to escape as the bait is filled with the resin and for the gas to escape as the resin hardens. It's a little more complicated than the super glue method but after the bait is done it works better than other methods I have tried. I also think it will last longer than the super glue. I have always had balls break free and start to rattle again when using super glue.
A lipless crank is going to be very light w/o the rattles I think. I wonder how they balance and if they're still effective with the new action.
I bought a couple of lipless Yo-Zuri lipless cranks at Dicks that dont rattle and have a rubbery coating on them, I believe it was called "Living Rubber". I have found them to be very effective in clear water, but nowhere else. I wish I could remember the name.
I drilled and filled one of my old XCalibur XR50's with super glue yesterday. I used quite a bit of glue in the hopes that the rattles don't break loose. I'll report back after I fish with it.
Gorilla glue may be a better option as it expands quite a bit to get itself into every possible crevice inside the lure's body. Then it could be trimmed at the fill hole after it finished expanding and cured.
If this thread wasn't two pages, I would have laughed and kept going. I'm intrigued, and have a fresh stack id lipless baits. Where to I drill the hole, the top?
QuoteIf this thread wasn't two pages, I would have laughed and kept going. I'm intrigued, and have a fresh stack id lipless baits. Where to I drill the hole, the top?
That's where I did it. About a 3/8 inch behind the line tie.
I wrote this in another thread but figured it would fit here too.
"Spots are also my number one lipless. You can turn them into three different baits with a drill and some epoxy. You can fish them as is, turn them into a one knocker or make them silent.
To make it a one knocker drill a hole behind the hook hanger on the bottom and put a little epoxy in it.
Same thing for the silent but add another hole in front of the hook hanger.
Just make sure to let the weight rest on the bottom when the epoxy is setting up so it stays balanced.
One of my favorite baits for shallow, clear water is a silent 1/4oz. Spot."
I know these are not lipless but why not just try the Strike King KVD Silent Stalker crankbaits.
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_10204981_100005000_100000000_100005000_100-5-0
Geez...Don't ya all buy a new lure once in awhile?
There are so many options without rattles, why
go through the trouble of modification? It just
doesn't make any sense to me.
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Not too many silent lipless crank options. Its just too easy to modify any trap with super glue.
in a slightly related note.
i think im going to try this on some old traps... because i got a few one knockers this year to try out and in two trips (with only one crappie to show for it) my half oz. one knocker is missing both eyes.
im kinda upset at this cause it was after all an 8 dollar trap >
im going to put some red finger nail polish in the hole and keep fishing with it... at least the paint isnt flaking off (yet) like my red-eye shads.
QuoteGeez...Don't ya all buy a new lure once in awhile?There are so many options without rattles, why
go through the trouble of modification? It just
doesn't make any sense to me.
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Because Super Spots were just 94 cents the other day!
QuoteGeez...Don't ya all buy a new lure once in awhile?There are so many options without rattles, why
go through the trouble of modification? It just
doesn't make any sense to me.
When I modify mine I also change the balance and weight of the bait. I couldn't find any to buy that would do what I wanted so I started cuting and drilling. I make better balanced floaters, suspenders and faster sinkers to fish deeper. Also some lipless cranks do different things better than others and the silent ones out there may not fit the need at the time.
I will also admit to being cheap at times.
QuoteGeez...Don't ya all buy a new lure once in awhile?There are so many options without rattles, why
go through the trouble of modification? It just
doesn't make any sense to me.
There are not really many silent lipless cranks available unless you either modify them or order them from Japan or off ebay, which I have got a few that way. Megabass has silent versions, but they are available only in Japan, same with Jackall. Evergreen has the silent Buzzer beater only available only in Japan, or off ebay. So, it may be cheaper to just modify the ones that are available here. I thought it may work better at times in some of the clear water lakes I fish that get hammered with noisy baits.
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Here is what I do maybe it will help. I buy them unglued and build them anyway I wish.
http://www.luremaking.com/catalogue/catalogue-index/catalogue-items/crankbaits/rattleshads.htm
depending on what you fill them with changes the rattling noise be it plastic beads, lead, sand, larger shot, glued in lead, glass, whatever you choose.