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fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

I had very poor lighting & had a hard time seeing the thread, I did a terrible job on the pro kote & not the best on the wrap.

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fishing user avatarJeff H reply : 

It's on there.  Fish it!  


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

I'm happy


fishing user avatarHi Salenity reply : 

It looks great!

Is that a Metalic?


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

Yes


fishing user avatardesmobob reply : 

No one is going to make fun of you for rising to the challenge of wrapping your own rod!  It looks fine!  

 

I hope you catch your new PB on the first cast with it.  :-)

 

Tight lines,

Bob


fishing user avatarHi Salenity reply : 
  On 9/2/2015 at 8:58 AM, BDfishing said:

Yes

They are harder.
fishing user avatarFun4Me reply : 

It has character. I like it, and hope you catch many lunkers with it. 


fishing user avatarEvanT123 reply : 

It will be hard to see when using the rod. Experience is a great teacher. You can only get better.


fishing user avatarFisher-O-men reply : 

Next time take a blurrier pic!


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 

No shame in that. I was proud of my first until i had a half dozen under my belt. I keep it as a reminder and motivator.


fishing user avatarBluebasser86 reply : 

It'll fish! wrap doesn't look bad at all. 


fishing user avatarBatson reply : 

Don't even worry about it. Its functional right now.

 

Time to build more rods and the more you do, the more it will up your skills. Here are some videos to help you in your build. https://youtu.be/qCK56kdF4Fs


fishing user avatarMickD reply : 

You've just illustrated why I prefer glossy blanks.  


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 

Yours looks no worse than my first attempt. Stick with it. You'll get better. Keep one thing in mind to keep any discouragement at bay: we learn a lot more from our mistakes than from our successes.


fishing user avatarRatherbfishing reply : 

I repaired/wrapped a couple of guides using sewing thread and glittery Hard As Nails fingernail polish.  By comparison yours looks like a masterpiece.  If it works, be proud and use it.


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

I'm having a slight issue, I used Pro Kote, mixed it for about 3 minutes, it is still tacky but not leaving finger marks on it that I can see, what should I try or do


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

Seems weird


fishing user avatarHi Salenity reply : 
  On 9/3/2015 at 4:38 AM, BDfishing said:

I'm having a slight issue, I used Pro Kote, mixed it for about 3 minutes, it is still tacky but not leaving finger marks on it that I can see, what should I try or do

Sorry but it was either not mixed or a bad ratio.

It won't dry.


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

I mix 3cc of each for about 3 minutes


fishing user avatarFishinDaddy reply : 

First of  all, Excellent Job for your first one.   :respect-059:

 

Metallic thread is a royal pita when it comes time to finish.  I love it and use it a lot, but it's a pain.

 

As DVT said, I also have my first one with bad wraps, guides on in reverse (which is the cool thing now) and such.  After fishing it for 8 years or so I broke the tip and have since retired it to the wall.  You will only get better and you will be amazed how fast you get good.

 

As for the tacky prokote.  I have that happen every once in a while.  Give it another day.  If it is still tacky, wipe it down with DN alcohol and re-finish.  FYI I usually mix 5 cc each.  You have more waste but the more you mix in a batch the better it mixes.


fishing user avatarJrob78 reply : 

It looks great for your first, especially considering you used metallic.  I would give you finish a few days before you do anything drastic.  It might still harden up.


fishing user avatarEvanT123 reply : 
  On 9/3/2015 at 6:21 AM, FishinDaddy said:

As for the tacky prokote. I have that happen every once in a while. Give it another day. If it is still tacky, wipe it down with DN alcohol and re-finish. FYI I usually mix 5 cc each. You have more waste but the more you mix in a batch the better it mixes.

This!! Better to waste a little in the beginng than have to do it over. In the grand scheme, finish is a minor cost.


fishing user avatarMickD reply : 

One reason I don't use ProKote any more is the drama in figuring out if you have a problem or not when it goes on and on without curing hard.  It can really take a long time, like a couple days.  Wait it out for at least that long, and if it still isn't "dry" do as suggested above and add another coat.  

 

If it won't dry, then you most likely did not get the proportions right or didn't mix it long enough.  3 min is plenty.  2 is right.  If you did not use syringes, then this is what you will get, sooner or later.  ALWAYS use syringes, and if you do, you need not mix large quantities to get good curing.  It is all about proper proportions and adequate mixing.  With epoxy, like concrete, it is a chemical reaction, and you need the exact number of "molecules" of each component to match up.  More of one or the other does nothing but screw it up, leaving unmatched "molecules" which means it stays tacky.


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

It was the 12ml filled syringes


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 

If you're going to continue building rods, get yourself a small, accurate digital scale. Since I started using one for epoxy measurements, I've never had a bad batch. And, you can mix very small batches. I spent $50 to get an accurate scale.

 

Using Flex Coat Lite, a mix of 12 grains hardener to 14 grains of resin produces enough to do a complete guide set and a small decal. Half of that is enough for a guide set, or a long holo wrap, but not enough for both. That's well less than 5cc of each, which most recommend.

 

I started with a new pair of Flex coat bottles, and have used almost all of it up. Both bottles have about 1/4" left, and are at the exact same level after being measured out by weight. Eyeballing it into measuring cups did not produce that result.

 

There's no need to spend the extra for measuring cups. I use condiment cups from Walmart. A lot cheaper. Also, use a round stirring stick. A flat one makes too many bubbles in the mix. Two minutes is plenty of mix time. After mixing, while it's still in the cup, blow on it with a straw (I use a piece of clear plastic tubing), to get rid of the bubbles. Carbon dioxide helps break the surface tension of the mix, allowing bubbles to set themselves free. Then pour it out onto a flat piece of aluminum foil. This will heat sink the mix, giving you more working time.


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 

Take note : if mixing by weight the parts are not equal by weight. Mixing cup is close enough for adhesive but not finish. I prefer the measuring syringes and have no problem. Mixing time is less important than scraping thoroughly and watching the epoxy. It should be clear and streak free. Stir slowly actually folding the mix.


fishing user avatarBatson reply : 

The best quote I have ever heard in this business is from DOCSKI, the master builder, 

 

"Its about progression not perfection" - Docski


fishing user avatarOzark_Basser reply : 

Definitely on par with my first attempt as well. Metallics are definitely harder to wrap with also, but the wrap actually looks pretty good.

To get a clean edge on your epoxy finish, never touch the blank with the brush. Place the brush at the edge of the wrap and push down letting the epoxy push from the edge of the wrap onto the blank. It just takes a few turns of the drying motor with the brush pushed down before it starts to form a clean edge. Let dry. Apply a second coat, and it will look really good. Try it on a dowel and you'll get it in no time. Thank Mike from DVT for that tip.


fishing user avatarMickD reply : 

Riley Rods has a very nice small scale that I use with their epoxy which is mixed 2:1 by weight.  Keep in mind that some epoxy components may not be the same density so measuring by weight may not be appropriate.  Oviously, it's OK with Flex Coat as mentioned above, but with other brands I would check with the source before using weight instead of volume.  I agree that proportioning by weight is very accurate, and I've never had any problem with Riley epoxy.  The Riley scale is less than $15, if I remember right.


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 

I took mine to the chem lab on campus for a specific gravity check. Can't do any better than that to establish proportions.


fishing user avatarfats69 reply : 

Hey it's the first one, don't be so hard on yourself.  Doesn't look bad, I've always thought about it and never had the nerve to try one.  


fishing user avatarWPCfishing reply : 

You just completed a rod you can fish with.. It's more than I can say for myself. I'm having one built... I'm getting great support from this

 

great group of experienced rod builders here in the forum, As you know they are more than willing to help along so, keep on truckin!




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