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Getting Ready To Start My Frog Build, Have Some Questions 2024


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

Got home from vacation & want to start on the rod build, first question with the reel seat, it's a Fuji ecm, do I just expoy it in place or do I have to put tape in the back of it, it fits really tight


fishing user avatarOzark_Basser reply : 

Fuji ecs? If so, you just epoxy it to the blank. No need for arbors of any kind.


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

Yes thanks


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

Microwave guides do u sand the feet? The blank is 7'3" , the back of the reel seat is going to be 9.5" , where is a good starting point for the guides, it's a casting rod


fishing user avatarOzark_Basser reply : 

I'm not sure, but they probably do need to be sanded. You should be able to tell by looking at them.

I usually just measure about 20" from where the line comes out of the reel for the stripper guide then static test from there.


fishing user avatarFishinDaddy reply : 
  On 8/31/2015 at 5:44 AM, BDfishing said:

Microwave guides do u sand the feet? The blank is 7'3" , the back of the reel seat is going to be 9.5" , where is a good starting point for the guides, it's a casting rod

 

 

I always sharpen the feet on all guides.  As far as microwaves go, they have a specific spacing chart based on the height of the reel to be used and the distance to the first running guide.  I always start with the recommended spacing then test by mounting a reel and stringing line and checking for myself.  

 

FYI - I don't see much advantage gained with micro waves for a casting rod.  Microwaves on a spinning rod has huge performance gains, casting not so much.  Just my .02.


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

Using either a smoke or BB1 reel, wanted to do a single foot for my first wrap job, that why I went with the microwave guides


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

What do u use to secure your tip top? Does anyone use the pro paste left over from the reel seat?


fishing user avatarFishinDaddy reply : 
  On 8/31/2015 at 7:24 AM, BDfishing said:

What do u use to secure your tip top? Does anyone use the pro paste left over from the reel seat?

 

 

I use tip top glue and then thread finish over the joint between blank and tip.


fishing user avatarRoLo reply : 
  On 8/31/2015 at 7:18 AM, FishinDaddy said:

Microwaves on a spinning rod has huge performance gains, casting not so much.  Just my .02.

 

I agree with this, and if Lee's wrong then I'm wrong too (entirely possible)   :smiley:

 

Roger


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

Grips & seat mounted

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fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/31/2015 at 5:44 AM, BDfishing said:

Microwave guides do u sand the feet? The blank is 7'3" , the back of the reel seat is going to be 9.5" , where is a good starting point for the guides, it's a casting rod

that's an awfuly short handle , why ?


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

The back of the seat is 9.5" , same as other rods I bought, I don't like the butt past my elbow,


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

What is a good starting point for the guides, rod is 7'3", back of reel sear is 9.5" , going to use either a Smoke or BB1 reel.

Can u buy the plastic & aluminum cups at a craft store?


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 
  On 8/31/2015 at 10:29 PM, BDfishing said:

The back of the seat is 9.5" , same as other rods I bought, I don't like the butt past my elbow,

ok, seems really short and would be difficult for two handed casts, good luck on your build !!!


fishing user avatarLyman X reply : 

I mix finish in an upside down beer/soda can just clean it off with alcohol before mixing. Mix finish and blow over it thru a drinking straw to drive bubbles out of finish. Free cup. Lynn


fishing user avatarLyman X reply : 

BD what county are you in?  I'm also in NEPA. Lynn


fishing user avatarOzark_Basser reply : 

Sounds like you need to do a little more research, BD. The bottom of a soda can is a good choice though for mixing. It gives you a little extra pot life compared to plastic, and it doesn't create an awful lot of bubbles while mixing.


fishing user avatarFishinDaddy reply : 
  On 8/31/2015 at 10:52 PM, BDfishing said:

What is a good starting point for the guides, rod is 7'3", back of reel sear is 9.5" , going to use either a Smoke or BB1 reel.

Can u buy the plastic & aluminum cups at a craft store?

 

The guides came with a recommended guides spacing chart in the paperwork.  Start there and tape the guides on.  Mount a reel and see how the line goes through the first 3 guides.


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 
  On 9/1/2015 at 3:02 AM, Lymanx said:

BD what county are you in?  I'm also in NEPA. Lynn

I live in Roaring Brook Twp., Lackawanna


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

I used 1/8 rubber bands to hold the guides, tried to static test, that didn't work


fishing user avatarOzark_Basser reply : 
  On 9/2/2015 at 8:18 AM, BDfishing said:

tried to static test, that didn't work

Why not?


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

They bent over


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 

try some 1/8'' pinstripe tape


fishing user avatarOzark_Basser reply : 

The way I static test is I first set the guides how I want them with 1/8" orthodontist bands then use 1/8" masking tape to secure them in place leaving room at the foot of the guide for wrapping. Works really well. The reason I use 1/8" tape is because I almost exclusively use micro guides.


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 
  On 9/2/2015 at 8:40 AM, BDfishing said:

They bent over

When static testing put a 1/2 oz sinker on the line through the guides and use a second line hooked to the tip top to load the rod.


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 
  On 9/3/2015 at 4:01 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

When static testing put a 1/2 oz sinker on the line through the guides and use a second line hooked to the tip top to load the rod.

Do u u have a pic??


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 

I have one to test tomorrow. I'll snap a pic then. In the meantime look this over: http://anglersresource.net/StaticLoadTutorial.aspx

 

Secure the spine finder you got to a bench

Mount the rod with a reel and line thru the guides

Tie a paper clip to a length of twine and hook it thru the frame or ring of the top

tighten the line to put a 90* bend in the rod and secure it with a weight

Tie a 1/2 oz or so weight to the fishing line and let it dangle putting just enough tension on the line to take out any slack.

Move the guides as necessary to achieve a line flow closely matching the curve of the rod

Once satisfied, mark where each guide is and proceed with wrapping


fishing user avatarBDfishing reply : 

Did u get a pic


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 

I tried but didn't post it since Scott's is much clearer. If you haven't, do some reading here for answers to lots of questions: http://rodbuilding.org/list.php?2


fishing user avatarWPCfishing reply : 

Pic looks good... Build it like you see fit. It's your custom.

Keep the pics coming.. I enjoy the progress reports too.




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