How Is Hybrid Striped Bass Fishing Different From Lmb? 2024
TheSmilingSwordsman reply :
Last year the small private lake I primarily fish was stocked with some striped bass. How is the approach for striped bass different than large mouth bass? Is it different?
Edit: I think they are hybrids. Thanks, to those of you who pointed about my mistake.
FloridaFishinFool reply :
Well I wouldn't be using rubber worms for stripers!
I can't say for other parts of the country, but for me here in Florida I fish mostly for LMB spring, summer, and fall, and stripers when the bass aren't biting- meaning the stripers for me are a cold weather fish I can switch over to in winter.
Stripers will hit on a lot of the same lures LMB hit on like spinners and minnow lures and live bait. They like colder water and lots of oxygen in the water. Dam spill overs are good spots to find them. I catch them in summer too- often around spring runs which are 72 degrees year round while other places the water is much warmer. Submarine springs in lakes is another great spot to find them.
And it is different in that I take the stripers and sunshine hybrids home to eat but let the LMB go.
The state of Florida produces a hybrid sunshine bass- a cross between a striper and a white bass and they produce some 2 to 3 million of these fish per year here and dump into our lakes and rivers for our fishing fun and food.
I really like hitting the St. Johns river at sunrise and at times in the main channel those sunshine bass and stripers will make the water look like it is boiling from their feeding frenzy hitting the schools of shad baitfish. Just about anything you throw into the boil they will hit on it. Fun fishing! And good eating too!
I have found virtually no difference in behavior between the stripers and sunshine bass in central Florida's freshwater lakes and rivers. They run together everywhere I have found them throughout central Florida. I do not find stripers separated from sunshine bass. Does not happen from my experiences with them. The only difference between the two that I have seen are the stripes on the sides of their bodies. Other than that, they school together, live together, feed together and I always catch them side by side. I have never experienced catching only sunshine bass in this spot and stripers in some other spot. They are virtually identical in looks and behavior and I catch both side by side at the same time.
Fisher-O-men reply :
They fight way harder!
SirSnookalot reply :
Down here in South Florida I've caught some of these sunshine bass, the excitement was the fact that the fish is more unusual here. As far as fun and fight no more no less than a LMB.
RoLo reply :
If you're referring to striped bass and not hybrids, the approach would be different.
Striped bass are more acclimated to pelagic prey and are commonly found in suspension.
For this reason, suspended stripers are typically more active than suspended largemouth bass,
where working birds are the most visible tattle-tails. Stripers hit most of the same baits as bigmouths,
but since they attain greater weights, striper lures are generally larger.
With regard to fight, a 5-lb landlocked striper is comparable to a 5-lb largemouth bass.
On the other hand, there's a bigger difference between a landlocked striper and a saltwater striper,
because the searun striper is bucking tides and current 24/7 (like living in Gold's Gym).
Roger
WRB reply :
Putting striped bass into a small lake is a big mistake. Striped bass are true school bass and hunt together eating every small fish in the lake including LMB. Stripers are very fast swimmers preferring fast moving lures like slim minnow type Rapalas. Good sport fish, usually stronger than LMB pound for pound.
Tom
bonzai22 reply :
I haven't caught many pure stripers but I have caught a lot of hybrids. They fight like freight trains and I catch a lot of them on lipless crankbaits. If you can find them schooling and busting on shad you can catch them on about anything.
Redlinerobert reply :
On 3/8/2015 at 11:31 PM, WRB said:Putting striped bass into a small lake is a big mistake. Striped bass are true school bass and hunt together eating every small fish in the lake including LMB. Stripers are very fast swimmers preferring fast moving lures like slim minnow type Rapalas. Good sport fish, usually stronger than LMB pound for pound.
Tom
Agreed with Tom. Given the choice I'll take a 10 lb striper over a 10 lb largemouth any day! They are explosive.
A-Jay reply :
Initially, I think it's interesting to note that once a striper attains a certain size, like many fish, it really Feeds & Fights quite differently.
As a 2 pound LMB is nice and pulls a bit, it's hard to compare this to a double digit fish.
Accordingly, though a 10 striper is a nice fish, a 30 lb. plus fish is a completely different deal.
Living in a challenging cold water oceanic environment where strong tidal surf & river currents are ever present, creates a certain toughness that becomes readily apparent when battling the saltwater version on the appropriate tackle.
So that's a nice way of saying, that I think all the sweet water models are wimps . . . .
A-Jay
powerduster reply :
It's probably hybrid stripers. Like someone said before, a striped bass wouldn't do too well in a small lake, especially if the lake isn't very deep, as they are a cool water fish. I have not caught a hybrid, but I did a lot of research on them, and the thing that I remember most is their adaptability in both warm (like sandbass) and cold water (stripers) temperatures. It does makes sense since hybrids are a mix between the two species. I would love to catch one someday.On 3/8/2015 at 10:27 AM, TheSmilingSwordsman said:Last year the small private lake I primarily fish was stocked with some striped bass. How is the approach for striped bass different than large mouth bass? Is it different?
Redlinerobert reply :
A Jay, GREAT PIC!
MDBowHunter reply :
We have a breeding population of hybrids that was originally stocked back in the early 80s in the reservoir that I primarily fish. The main reason for the great success with them here is that the reservoir is between 150 and 185 feet deep which means it stays cold all year down there. By this time they are most likely getting ready to leave the dam area and heading off to the flats at the other end of the reservoir, where they'll spawn and then work their way down through the old river channel that runs through the bottomof the reservoir. By the first of June they've usually already spawned and are heading back down to the dam where they'll spend the summer months. The guys here catch some white perch on their way to where the hybrids happen to be at, and then they live line with heavy salt water gear. Some of the of the hybrids here are in the 50 to 60 pound range, and some are believed to be way bigger. There's a dedicated crew of guys here that only fish for the hybrids, but they're a real hush hush type of crew let me tell you...
TheSmilingSwordsman reply :
Yep, you guys are right. They are hybrids. My mistake.
everythingthatswims reply :
On 3/8/2015 at 11:31 PM, WRB said:Putting striped bass into a small lake is a big mistake. Striped bass are true school bass and hunt together eating every small fish in the lake including LMB. Stripers are very fast swimmers preferring fast moving lures like slim minnow type Rapalas. Good sport fish, usually stronger than LMB pound for pound.
Tom
Tell that to the Herman Brothers (Giant Goose Ranch). They have a 32 acre lake managed specifically for hybrids, and they stock them for lots of pond owners. I do think hybrids will eat pellets though which works okay for a pond.
powerduster reply :
You're thinking hybrids and striped bass are the same exact fish, but they are not. Hybrids are a cross between striped bass and sand bass as they are better suited for farming, since they tolerate warm water temperatures much better.On 3/9/2015 at 4:48 AM, everythingthatswims said:Tell that to the Herman Brothers (Giant Goose Ranch). They have a 32 acre lake managed specifically for hybrids, and they stock them for lots of pond owners. I do think hybrids will eat pellets though which works okay for a pond.
powerduster reply :
That's true. There is this channel on youtube called OOW Outdoors and they specifically target freshwater stripers and hybrids and a lot of times they are schooled together and the baits used are exactly the same.On 3/8/2015 at 10:56 AM, FloridaFishinFool said:
I have found virtually no difference in behavior between the stripers and sunshine bass in central Florida's freshwater lakes and rivers. They run together everywhere I have found them throughout central Florida. I do not find stripers separated from sunshine bass. Does not happen from my experiences with them. The only difference between the two that I have seen are the stripes on the sides of their bodies. Other than that, they school together, live together, feed together and I always catch them side by side. I have never experienced catching only sunshine bass in this spot and stripers in some other spot. They are virtually identical in looks and behavior and I catch both side by side at the same time.
SmilingSwordsman if you're interested then I would highly recommend watching their videos.
roadwarrior reply :
On 3/9/2015 at 1:24 AM, A-Jay said:Initially, I think it's interesting to note that once a striper attains a certain size, like many fish, it really Feeds & Fights quite differently.
As a 2 pound LMB is nice and pulls a bit, it's hard to compare this to a double digit fish.
Accordingly, though a 10 striper is a nice fish, a 30 lb. plus fish is a completely different deal.
Living in a challenging cold water oceanic environment where strong tidal surf & river currents are ever present, creates a certain toughness that becomes readily apparent when battling the saltwater version on the appropriate tackle.
So that's a nice way of saying, that I think all the sweet water models are wimps . . . .
A-Jay
The stripers in the Tennesse River mimic saltwater stripers in terms of strength.
However, I don't consider a 10 lb fish as much of a prize as opposed to a DD
largemouth. Below the Pickwaick Dam it is not uncommon to catch 200lbs of
striper on a good day. Although my PB is only 38 lbs, my friends and I have had
days when most of our fish were 15 - 20 lbs apiece and a 30+ or two in the mix.
The bigger fish are exponentially stronger. Another big difference is that striper
do not jump, but they dig BIG TIME! Around here live bait is #1 by a big margin,
the Alabama is the next best bet.
Scott F reply :
The hybrid striped bass, they are often called "wipers" in the lakes I catch them in, are a schooling fish and we usually catch them in open water and not relating closely to structure like largemouth do. We will often troll around for a while until we locate a school and then cast to them with blade baits, lipless crank baits, Rapalas or topwaters. Like stripers, watch for them busting baitfish on the surface. Try and follow the school to keep the action going. Once you get in a school, doubles are common. The action can be so good you don't want to stop to take pictures.
bucky reply :
Haven't heard the term "wipers", but things are pretty much the same on Kentucky lake and in the tailwaters. They are a blast to catch and I have caught a few when fishing for lm bass that are chasing shad in the backs of bays. They school and chase the bait. I have caught them on everything, but if fishing for them, I use grubs, spinnerbait, or inline spinners.
RoLo reply :
With respect to striped bass, Roadwarrior makes a good point.
Ocean stripers are more powerful than landlocked stripers, but those living in a riverine environment
are another force to reckon with. I also agree that striped bass are not given to jumping,
however like most rules, there are exceptions. Bunker dunking off Sandy Hook, NJ, I hooked a 38-lb striped bass
that jumped completely out of the water 3 times. That was the 'only' striper I've ever seen jump.
For the record, striped bass eggs and white bass milt results in a "sunshine bass" (aka: 'wipers' and 'hybrids')
White bass eggs and striped bass milt results in a "whiterock bass"
Both hybrid forms are man toys that cannot reproduce.
Roger
Shanes7614 reply :
They have a pure hatred for Spittin Images!!! Colored according to what they are eating and they get DESTROYED!!!!!
Shanes7614 reply :
The hybrid stripers. Lol
FloridaFishinFool reply :
I'm gonna get me a couple of those spit'n image lures, but which one? The Bill Dance and Heddon version or the Excalibur version? I'm gonna get some that match the hatch on the baitfish in the area for color.
I usually catch them on inline spinners, rat'l traps, and rapala minnow lures work great. Here is a mess of them out of Lake Harris about to be filet'd for dinner! These average 1 to nearly 4 pounds. I catch lots more a little bigger and smaller, but keep only those about this size for food. They are great when smoked!
Shanes7614 reply :
The bill dance version.
Shanes7614 reply :
Herring color works best. One of their favorite foods.
Shanes7614 reply :
They also have a fondness for concrete walls especially if they are in water deeper then 8-10ft.
TheSmilingSwordsman reply :
From what I have gathered in here, the hybrids are a schooling fish and prefer a fast moving lure vs a slow finesse lure. Is that correct?
Grizzn N Bassin reply :
All i can say is a 30-50lb stripper doesn't even compare. we fish for them every year when they come up to spawn.
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