Kayak/Canoe Or Jon Boat 2024
Wayne_Rand reply :
I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good BUDGET Kayak/Canoe for fishing. Or a Jon Boat
Or if anyone is selling one in Minnesota
Andy Taylor reply :
What is your budget ? Will you be fishing alone ?
fishnkamp reply :
Check out craigslist Minnesota. I spent 10 minutes and saw plenty of used canoes, kayaks and jon boats available. You need to decide what type of water you want to fish and what type boat best fits your needs best.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
Yes you would need to decide first which is best suit you.
Do you fish alone? How deep of water you plan to fish? Are you ready to transport Jon boat with trailer? How far do you plan to fish from where you launch? Do you need engine/trolling motor or paddle is enough? And how much your budget?
i have both Jon boat and kayak. I normally will take kayak out 2-3 times a week since it is easier and faster for me to get in the water(I only have time to fish a few hours each trip). I will take Jon boat out if I plan to fish all day or if I have company. The body of water is also factor, if I have to paddle 20-30 mins to where to fish, I'd rather take Jon boat out since I have both trolling motor and 15hp engine.
Jon boat
pro:
more room, more comfortable, you don't get too tired, can stay in water longer.
con:
take more time to prep launch and load, not very good in windy condition, storage and more expensive but not by much (still cheaper if you compare to those peddled drive)
Wayne_Rand reply :
On 6/27/2017 at 10:31 AM, JustJames said:Yes you would need to decide first which is best suit you.
On 6/27/2017 at 10:06 AM, fishnkamp said:Check out craigslist Minnesota. I spent 10 minutes and saw plenty of used canoes, kayaks and jon boats available. You need to decide what type of water you want to fish and what type boat best fits your needs best.
Thanks for the replies guys I have some buddy's with full size boats. But I was more asking for like Minnesota lakes that dont have a public access I think I Canoe/Kayak would be best. to get on and test an entire lake. as im only in high school I have a pretty small budget 5-700 dollars probably.
Hawkeye21 reply :
On 6/27/2017 at 1:09 PM, Wayne_Rand said:
Thanks for the replies guys I have some buddy's with full size boats. But I was more asking for like Minnesota lakes that dont have a public access I think I Canoe/Kayak would be best. to get on and test an entire lake. as im only in high school I have a pretty small budget 5-700 dollars probably.
If you want easier access to small lakes without boat ramps then a kayak is the way to go. You can either get a higher end kayak used on craigslist or you can buy a low end new model. I went with the Pelican Catch 120 when it was on sale for $600 last summer. I highly recommend it if you can find it at that price.
NYWayfarer reply :
On 6/27/2017 at 1:09 PM, Wayne_Rand said:
Thanks for the replies guys I have some buddy's with full size boats. But I was more asking for like Minnesota lakes that dont have a public access I think I Canoe/Kayak would be best. to get on and test an entire lake. as im only in high school I have a pretty small budget 5-700 dollars probably.
Sounds like a kayak would be best. Something like the Pelican Tracker Angler kayak runs $299.99 at Dick's $229.99 when on sale, like last week. It weighs 38lbs so its easy to transport.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
Save some budget for good PDF and paddle and also kayak cart if you plan to drag kayak for a long distance (diy is cheaper) might look in your area for good quality in use condition. now you have to decide you want sit on top or sit inside. They offer different feel, how stable and how easy to fish in. Next would be size of kayak, 10' 12' or giant 14' everything has trade off, the smaller one will be less stable but light enough to carry if you have to. I don't think you should plan on standing and fishing on budget kayak unless you got something big like 12-14'.
The kayak is nice open you to new way to fish and you can get to location where bank fisherman can't go without breaking the bank.
Darren. reply :
Agree a kayak is best bet, easier to portage if you get a
lighter or smaller model.
Absolutely do NOT forget to always wear a PFD. It is just
the smart thing to do. So plan on $79-100 for one of those.
Bass Pro Ascend fishing PFD is pretty good for the $, just
a suggestion.
Also second the scouring of Craigslist, etc., for used yaks
that you can often find for way less than new. Can also
look at demos/used yaks at local kayak shops.
Neil McCauley reply :
If you have a variety of size waters nearby a budget kayak vs budget canoe is hugely different...Cheap kayaks essentially limit you to ponds, a canoe the same price you can eventually build on- trolling motors, batteries, sonar, etc- and do bigger things if things get stale. You'd have to buy a whole new kayak to do that. And ever notice how whenever people replace old fishing kayaks with new better ones, they look and function more and more like canoes? (except for $1000s more). Why not just start with one? The same $400 canoe can keep you busy many years.
"Kayak?"
PECo reply :
On 6/28/2017 at 1:32 PM, Neil McCauley said:If you have a variety of size waters nearby a budget kayak vs budget canoe is hugely different...Cheap kayaks essentially limit you to ponds, a canoe the same price you can eventually build on- trolling motors, batteries, sonar, etc- and do bigger things if things get stale. You'd have to buy a whole new kayak to do that. And ever notice how whenever people replace old fishing kayaks with new better ones, they look and function more and more like canoes? (except for $1000s more). Why not just start with one? The same $400 canoe can keep you busy many years.
"Kayak?"
Um, no.
A kayak is a much better platform for fishing. There are many kayak hull designs that are much more stable and maneuverable than any canoe, and they're available on even inexpensive kayaks.
flyfisher reply :
On 6/28/2017 at 1:32 PM, Neil McCauley said:If you have a variety of size waters nearby a budget kayak vs budget canoe is hugely different...Cheap kayaks essentially limit you to ponds, a canoe the same price you can eventually build on- trolling motors, batteries, sonar, etc- and do bigger things if things get stale. You'd have to buy a whole new kayak to do that. And ever notice how whenever people replace old fishing kayaks with new better ones, they look and function more and more like canoes? (except for $1000s more). Why not just start with one? The same $400 canoe can keep you busy many years.
"Kayak?"
My kayak acts nothing like a canoe. Kayaks have come a long ways and even the budget models are very nice and have the ability to be modified to suit your specific needs. Not to mention there isn't a canoe that you can fish from easily that you can take out in rougher water and be safe since they are not self draining like Sit On Top kayaks are.
All that being said, a kayak is great for pond hopping and its easy on the wallet as well, or it can be I should say 
BassWhole! reply :
Humans shouldn't fish from kayaks. Get the jon boat.
RPreeb reply :
On 6/29/2017 at 3:47 AM, flyfisher said:My kayak acts nothing like a canoe. Kayaks have come a long ways and even the budget models are very nice and have the ability to be modified to suit your specific needs. Not to mention there isn't a canoe that you can fish from easily that you can take out in rougher water and be safe since they are not self draining like Sit On Top kayaks are.
All that being said, a kayak is great for pond hopping and its easy on the wallet as well, or it can be I should say
How much time do you have in a canoe? A canoe is a more seaworthy than a typical fishing kayak. I grew up paddling a canoe in Wisconsin back in the 50's and 60's, plus two 8 day trips in the Boundary Waters/Quetico in '62 and '63. I've also paddled whitewater kayaks on rivers from Colorado to Idaho.
A canoe is definitely more comfortable than a kayak, it has a much greater load capacity (13 foot canoe 800 lbs vs. 12 foot kayak 450 lbs, both about the same weight), tracks well, floats when capsized (I've never dumped in a canoe except on purpose), and can be paddled when full of water (I've done it). I was looking at kayaks, but decided to go with the canoe (now I have to convince my wife, but it's partly her idea because she wants to be able to come along at times 
).
I'm looking at an Old Town Discovery 133 ($999 retail). It will take a bit more to outfit it than a kayak that is already set up for fishing, but then I don't require all the fancy stuff - a seat back, maybe a couple of rod holders, a small anchor, and eventually a lower end trolling motor. Never had a motor before, yet my brother and I fished from our canoe almost daily growing up and found ways to defeat the wind.
flyfisher reply :
I have fished in canoes all the time as a kid with multi day trips a few times a year on various rivers plus local lakes and reservoirs.
Load capacity is a moot point for me as i will never need to take 800lbs of gear with me, my kayak has capacity of 550lbs or so. I have yet to see a factory seat in a canoe as comfortable as the one in my kayak either but i know there are lots of aftermarket ones you can buy. You also mentioned paddling a canoe full of water, well in a Sit On Top kayak, that is of no concern because they are self draining. Stability in my kayak is better than any canoe i have been in as is the speed with that stability. I can paddle 4mph with minimal effort. As far as being sea worthy is concerned, if i am going out in rougher conditions or windy conditions there is no doubt I am taking a kayak one a canoe. I have been pushed by the wind enough times in my canoe to know that isn't what i want to be doing lol
Our discussion here has proved a valid point though, whatever you decide should be based on what you like and what suits your needs. You have more experience in a canoe so that is your comfort zone. I chose to make the switch to a kayak 10+ years ago and couldn't be happier, especially with the advances in kayak technology and the fishing specific boats.
if you weren't so far away i'd offer you to take my kayak out and see what you think
PECo reply :
On 6/30/2017 at 11:06 AM, RPreeb said:How much time do you have in a canoe? A canoe is a more seaworthy than a typical fishing kayak. I grew up paddling a canoe in Wisconsin back in the 50's and 60's, plus two 8 day trips in the Boundary Waters/Quetico in '62 and '63. I've also paddled whitewater kayaks on rivers from Colorado to Idaho.
A canoe is definitely more comfortable than a kayak, it has a much greater load capacity (13 foot canoe 800 lbs vs. 12 foot kayak 450 lbs, both about the same weight), tracks well, floats when capsized (I've never dumped in a canoe except on purpose), and can be paddled when full of water (I've done it). I was looking at kayaks, but decided to go with the canoe (now I have to convince my wife, but it's partly her idea because she wants to be able to come along at times
The OP is a high school kid who wants to access carry-in only ponds. While a canoe might fit YOUR requirements, I suspect that the kid doesn't need an 800 pound load capacity or room to take along his wife. 
The vast majority of paddlers find that kayaks have the best balance of attributes and features for the purpose of fishing (e.g., cost, size and handling characteristics).
RPreeb reply :
My real issue with kayaks is that even with the seating systems they have now, I still have to sit with my legs out in front, and that is very hard on my abused 70 year old back. In the canoe I can even bend them up under the seat if I want to, or drop down and kneel for awhile for a change of position. It's also easy to rig a trolling motor on a canoe to assist with the maneuvering. It would be pretty easy to build my own mount.
I've paddled both canoe and kayak in windy conditions, and neither one is exactly fun when conditions are wrong. It's not bad if you can go straight upwind or down wind - even a crosswind is fairly easy as long as you have your load fairly centered - but quartering bow winds are the worst, unless it just happens to be right to balance the torque from paddling on the side away from the wind. I try to plan my route to minimize how much I have to fight the wind, using shore or islands as much as possible when I have to work into a breeze. The wind can actually assist you if you do it right.
Everyone has his own preferences. I just wanted to point out some of the potential advantages of a canoe for anyone on the wall and trying to make an informed decision.
moguy1973 reply :
On 7/1/2017 at 1:43 AM, RPreeb said:My real issue with kayaks is that even with the seating systems they have now, I still have to sit with my legs out in front, and that is very hard on my abused 70 year old back. In the canoe I can even bend them up under the seat if I want to, or drop down and kneel for awhile for a change of position. It's also easy to rig a trolling motor on a canoe to assist with the maneuvering. It would be pretty easy to build my own mount.
I've paddled both canoe and kayak in windy conditions, and neither one is exactly fun when conditions are wrong. It's not bad if you can go straight upwind or down wind - even a crosswind is fairly easy as long as you have your load fairly centered - but quartering bow winds are the worst, unless it just happens to be right to balance the torque from paddling on the side away from the wind. I try to plan my route to minimize how much I have to fight the wind, using shore or islands as much as possible when I have to work into a breeze. The wind can actually assist you if you do it right.
Everyone has his own preferences. I just wanted to point out some of the potential advantages of a canoe for anyone on the wall and trying to make an informed decision.
Some of the new seating systems kayaks have now are pretty nice. Jackson, Old Town, Feelfree all have lawnchair like seats to sit in.
J Francho reply :
Wildy ATAK 140 with an Airpro seat: https://www.wildernesssystems.com/us/products/airpro-3d-seat-2
https://www.wildernesssystems.com/us/experience/team-blog/297/post/2015-fishing-kayak-year
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
Me like this one ^^^^
the reel ess reply :
If you're going to fish alone, I would suggest not going with the canoe. I got one and it was almost too much for me to paddle and fish alone. A transom mount trolling motor would make it more useful, but that requires registration as a motorboat in my state. Eventually, I succumbed to the kayak craze and never looked back. Even got one for my daughter.
Junebugman reply :
Hi I'm looking at a emotion stealth pro 11ft8inch on sale at blaines farm and fleet now for 579.99 just my 2 cents
Neil McCauley reply :
On 6/28/2017 at 10:43 PM, PECo said:Um, no.
A kayak is a much better platform for fishing. There are many kayak hull designs that are much more stable and maneuverable than any canoe, and they're available on even inexpensive kayaks.
I'm sure kayaks can be stable and maneuverable... And there are different designs for canoe hulls also. Which one can designed to be more "stable and maneuverable" vs the other is probably a canoe but it's kind of beside the point. The important thing is that for the same $400 one of them leaves open many more future options, while the other would need a more expensive version to do the same things and then still not do some of them as well.
I don't think anyone can say one is outright a better fishing platform than the other. That is like saying what is a better hunting weapon, a budget shotgun or bow? Each has its advantages in certain situations, but one is clearly overall more effective and versatile. I think that's important if you have to choose between them, especially for a first time owner who has so many options around to use it.
Lures'n'Liberty reply :
A plastic "bass tub" might fit the need all around. Bass Raider 10E, Sun Dolphin Sportsman, or something of the like could fit the bill of all the boats that you mentioned. It's not impossible to find a used one for under $200 or a new one on sale for $400. If you're on a budget, you can row it and carry it in a pickup truck for starters, then work your way up to a trolling motor, an outboard, a trailer, and all sorts of other stuff. There's a thread around here on the little boats that's been going for years with lots of great information on them.
BrianSnat reply :
I would rank the jon boat first. A small jon boat can be roof topped. A trailer is better and I've seen many anglers with pickups simply loading them in the bed. For fishing it is the best platform of the three, by far. Next would be a canoe. With the right canoe you can go solo or bring a friend. Room for a cooler and perhap gear for a campout fishing trip. You can move around in a canoe. Sit, kneel and stand (the latter if you buy a stable one). Tons of room for rods and gear. Buy or build a bracket for a trolling motor. A canoe is propbably the most versatile boat you will find. I think kayaks have one advantage over canoes. If it is really windy, the wind will blow your canoe around and make fishing diffcult. Kayaks are a bit better in the wind.
I have used all three. If it was simply a matter of a fishing platform, it is hard to beat a jonboat but getting it to the water alone, without a trailer can be an issue. Even a small, 9 ft jonboat can be difficult to handle. Canoes are the easiest of the three to get to the water. Kayaks are somewhere in the middle, but a good SOT kayak can weigh around 100 lbs or more and will be as difficult to deal with solo as the jonboat.
Outdoor Zack reply :
On 6/27/2017 at 10:06 AM, fishnkamp said:Check out craigslist Minnesota. I spent 10 minutes and saw plenty of used canoes, kayaks and jon boats available. You need to decide what type of water you want to fish and what type boat best fits your needs best.
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Edited by Outdoor Zackjohnsmith8501 reply :
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