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jbsoonerfan reply :
I have noticed a few people giving things away to youth and I think that is a GREAT thing to do. Just a heads up though. Make sure you speak with a parent before shipping things out to minors. I gave away some stuff on another forum one time and was contacted by the kids parent wanting to know why I was sending their child things.
Just something to think about.
Sorry if this doesn't belong, just don't want anyone getting in a bind.
flyfisher reply :
valid point and concern. I know I would be concerned if my son got something in the mail from someone i didn't know.
KyAngler_1120 reply :
I work as a deputy and after I broke my leg in March I have spent a ton of time on light duty and working in court services. There was a case last week in family court that involved a very weird man sending very expensive things to a 14 year old boy by mail. The man met the minor on Face Book. It is just a creepy and odd situation. While sending free baits to a young angler is a harmless helping act from compassionate members parents can never to safe these day. The creeps and wierdos have made these things look suspicious.
Evan K reply :
That's a very good point jbsoonerfan. An honest and compassionate gift can look totally different on the other end, if unaccounted for.
Big C reply :
It's a great point. In fact, I think this should be added to the rules of the "Flea Market" and this topic should be pinned to the top of the page.
BTW It protects both sender and receiver.
S. Sass reply :
So KyAngler_1120 how whould you cover yourself from this unless you just didnt do it period? I mean how would you know it was the parent, not a older sister or brother etc helping the young guy/gal get lures?
Ginosocalbass reply :
There is plenty of local kids in your area that'd enjoy free gear if given to them. You really don't need to post it up on BR.
Look up a local club/ fishing organization near you that does kid fishing events and try there.
tracker01 reply :
On 10/2/2015 at 1:51 PM, S. Sass said:So KyAngler_1120 how whould you cover yourself from this unless you just didnt do it period? I mean how would you know it was the parent, not a older sister or brother etc helping the young guy/gal get lures?
You don't know. I guess it's a sign of the times. Sad, so very sad.
Last_Cast reply :
Or you can send it to the parents? maybe it would be less weird? IDK. I dont see the problem with it...I also dont have kids.
deaknh03 reply :
As long as your doing it for the right reasons what do you have to worry about. I have done it here and always ask for the parents permission..just out of respect as I am a parent.
stkbassn reply :
On 10/2/2015 at 6:56 AM, jbsoonerfan said:I have noticed a few people giving things away to youth and I think that is a GREAT thing to do. Just a heads up though. Make sure you speak with a parent before shipping things out to minors. I gave away some stuff on another forum one time and was contacted by the kids parent wanting to know why I was sending their child things.
Just something to think about.
Sorry if this doesn't belong, just don't want anyone getting in a bind.
I agree with you and at the same time think it's sad that things are the way they are these days and things like caring acts of kindness have to be explained and not just done. Kind of takes some of the feeling out of it. Now people can't just be surprised and thankful without being suspicious about ulterior motives. It's just sad really. This is why people keep to themselves so much these days and mind their own business. They just don't bother to do things to help others as much as they once did because there's always a chance it will backfire in some way. Just a shame.
KyAngler_1120 reply :
On 10/2/2015 at 1:51 PM, S. Sass said:So KyAngler_1120 how whould you cover yourself from this unless you just didnt do it period? I mean how would you know it was the parent, not a older sister or brother etc helping the young guy/gal get lures?
Honestly, for me I just wouldn't do it unless I could speak with and meet the parents/guardian etc etc. In the past I have seen completely well meaning folks get accused of wrong doing and it a situation that I wouldn't want anyone to be put it. All it takes for an accusation is a parent to say so and so contacted my child on a site and now he is sending them things and it can get an investigation rolling pretty quickly depending on the jurisdiction.
JigMe reply :
That is a good warming...
I helped organized few charity fishing tournaments. Typically, we award different prizes for kids. Few years ago, some crazy lady almost sued us for giving her daughter a spinning rod/reel without her permission (still have nightmares about this sometimes). And now, we asked the parents to sign off.
dam0007 reply :
make this a sticky
Jaw1 reply :
I've sold and bought gear from individuals online just like the rest of you and never asked the age of the person I'm doing business with. I've also gave away lures without asking the age of the person. I don't see much of a difference between this and what's being talked about here. Individuals can easily lie about their age and we would never know the difference at the same time I have teenager and understand the parental concern.
buzzed bait reply :
i see what you're saying, but not having kids probably don't feel so strongly about it. i've done exactly this numerous times on this site, thought about the creep factor, but shrugged it off and moved on. haven't had an issue thus far.
my take is always a pay it forward mentality, not a "gift". that's up for interpretation, but just my rationale.
my reason for it is because my best friend's "paid it forward" when i was young and really allowed me to pursue golf along with his son. he paid for a jr. membership and helped me with a set of clubs. my parents were not able to do so and did not understand golf at that time. he got me going and it really meant a lot for my friend and i's relationship.
his dad passed when we were in college and i'll never forget him doing that for me....
blckshirt98 reply :
LOL this never crossed my mind. There was a post on some forums out here by a scoutmaster that was looking for stuff for his scout troop, and gave a mailing address where it would go to him instead of the kids...maybe another option if there's a local boy scout troop you can contact that could use some fishing gear.
SoFloBassFiend reply :
Shouldn't this be a non issue if what your sending out is exactly just that... If there in no other communications as to plans to meet up with receiving "kid" I'm not sure how much of a weirdo you could be considered. As long as there is open communications via through this site then I would hope that no other issues would be raised. It's a sad world we can't even help provide the future of fishing with extras we may have without being labeled as a creep. Possibly look into when shipping to make sure the package is signed for by someone over the age of 18. Place a simple note in it as far as why you sending with hopes it helps provide the tools for their future continuation in fishing and wish them good luck. Don't ever ask for a text or personal email and all should be fine.
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 10/3/2015 at 8:15 AM, SoFloBassFiend said:Shouldn't this be a non issue if what your sending out is exactly just that... If there in no other communications as to plans to meet up with receiving "kid" I'm not sure how much of a weirdo you could be considered. As long as there is open communications via through this site then I would hope that no other issues would be raised. It's a sad world we can't even help provide the future of fishing with extras we may have without being labeled as a creep. Possibly look into when shipping to make sure the package is signed for by someone over the age of 18. Place a simple note in it as far as why you sending with hopes it helps provide the tools for their future continuation in fishing and wish them good luck. Don't ever ask for a text or personal email and all should be fine.
If my son received a package or "gift" from someone he met online, I for sure would ask questions.
deaknh03 reply :
On 10/3/2015 at 8:18 AM, jbsoonerfan said:If my son received a package or "gift" from someone he met online, I for sure would ask questions.
Imagine your child receiving a package from Raidernationfisher...Pretty sure the sheriff would be involved in the opening of that package.
SoFloBassFiend reply :
I guess the only way to resolve would for the kid to have his parents make a phone call to the sender beforehand. Although sending your phone number as the sender is more incriminating I believe.
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 10/3/2015 at 8:20 AM, deaknh03 said:Imagine your child receiving a package from Raidernationfisher...Pretty sure the sheriff would be involved in the opening of that package.
Troll dolls with shoulder pads and face paint on riding lil mini Harleys.
KyAngler_1120 reply :
Its sad, but times and things have unfortunately changed a lot. Who would have though you would have to think about an innocent paying forward, which I agree with and do all the time, as something possibility being construed as inappropriate.
One of the big reasons that parent would be surprised to a package showing up at the door is because lots of parents have no clue about what their kids like their hobby interest, or have zero knowledge about their Facebook usage or other sites like this one. If parents were more involved in general most of these issues wouldn't be issues.
Comfortably Numb reply :
Yup sad world. I feel funny waving to kids walking in the street (everyone waves here)
tracker01 reply :
I have several Bass clubs within a 50 mile radius of me. They either have or they are part of youth events. When I was involved in a club we made sure that all the kids at our event went home with a fishing related item. These items were collected through our membership for our event. Kids were there with a parent or dropped off and picked up by a parent. To me this is a win-win situation. If you are reading this post, chances are that you know someone in a "fishing" club.
Sam reply :
Sooner fan, I go to the trouble of meeting the parents of any child going on my boat or a pond to fish.
No parents meeting - no fishing with me.
There are instances when I will take a high school age person with me but that does not happen often.
deaknh03 reply :
On 10/5/2015 at 11:28 PM, Sam said:Sooner fan, I go to the trouble of meeting the parents of any child going on my boat or a pond to fish.
No parents meeting - no fishing with me.
There are instances when I will take a high school age person with me but that does not happen often.
Thats complety different, not even close to the same.
carlm01 reply :
Have your local clubs sponsor a fishing rodeo and do it that way .. the parents are involved and may want to do learn more ....
Redlinerobert reply :
Great thread. Unfortunately, sign of the times. We peaked as a society some time ago.
Topwaterspook reply :
Dang , fellas...........I never considered those consequences..........Times have surely changed. Y'all have got me gun shy about giving tackle away.
Long Mike reply :
In all honesty, I have no qualms donating gear to youngsters, so long as there is no attempt at further communication.
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