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Lock N Stow Vs Transom Saver 2025


fishing user avatarBassnChris reply : 

It appears to me that the locknstow performs about the same function as a transom saver.

Is that right?

Is one better than the other?

Thinkin' about the long trip to Pickwick and back......plus Just curious.


fishing user avatarmc6524 reply : 

You are correct.  I like the lock n stow because it's a lot easier to use, more convenient, and actually provides a wider variety of adjusting how high you keep the lower unit.

 

I would not have anything else.


fishing user avatarFishing Rhino reply : 

There are pros and cons to both. 

 

Locknstow's main claim is that it reduces "road shock", whereas a transom saver transmits it from the trailer to the motor, and thus the hydraulic seals.  On the other hand the transom saver reduces the "road shock" to the transom, hence the name, transom saver.  I have my doubts that the force on the seals from road shock comes close to the force on those seals when the boat is under power on the water.

 

What both do effectively is to keep the lower unit elevated.  Take your pick

 

I have a transom saver that is spring loaded.  It has a stiff spring, almost like a valve spring which I partially compress when I install the unit.  The spring will absorb the shock when travelling rough roads or terrain.

 

How much strain is put on the transom while towing over bumps or potholes.  Does it even begin to amount to the force a big motor puts on a transom on a hole shot, or when a boat goes airborn over a wake (never a good thing)?

 

With a transom saver, whatever "road shock" there is is transmitted to the engine.  With a locknsave the "road shock" is transmitted to the transom.  At least, that's what both devices claim.

 

As for stowing, the transom saver takes up no storage space in my boat.  It gets locked in the back of my truck.  One time, I did forget to lock the cap, and someone relieved me of it.  If I had a locknstow, that's where it would go as well.


fishing user avatarFishing Rhino reply : 

I can remember the first effective devices that were used to keep motors tilted up while trailering.  Tilt the motor up.  Insert a two by four across the mounting bracket and secure in place with a bungee cord. 

 

Actually the first device was the tilt lock, but it didn't work out very well. 

 

This was back in the day when a 30 - 40 horsepower engine was an impressive piece of machinery. 


fishing user avatarJig Man reply : 

I don't have the lock and stow but I have the lock and haul.  I've been using it for over 2 years.  There are several advantages to it for me over the old transom saver.


fishing user avatarNitroZ9 reply : 

The term transom saver is  a generic term from years ago that is really no longer applicable. There is no way to remove the weight of the motor from the transom. Unlike in years past, modern boat transoms are made to support the weight and torque of large high horsepower motors. What you are really using now is a motor support. You are supporting the motor so it doesn't move around when trailering. Movement of the motor will be introduced into every one of it's components and can eventually result in failure(s). The "transom saver" that attaches to the trailer introduces road shock into your motor. Even if you are using steering clips, the motor will move, as the clips cannot be made tight enough to be installed/removed and still prevent movement. If you are using the old style support that attaches to the trailer, push your motor from side to side and notice the movement. That movement is amplified going down the road. The Lock-n-Haul will completely stop all movement and does not use off-set pins to support the weight of the motor. It supports the weight in a straight line between the mounting bracket and steering pivot bolts.      


fishing user avatarFishing Rhino reply : 

I could move the motor from side to side in the Z-7 I owned because it was cable steering.  ON my Z-8,with hydraulic steering,  the motor will not budge from side to side, even when it's just hanging on the transom without the "saver" installed.

 

I'm of the understanding is that the main purpose of any of the devices is to prevent the lower unit from striking the pavement, especially when being towed.

 

Interesting info from the Mercury Marine website.

 

What precautions should I take when trailering my outboard powered boat with the engine attached?

 

Trailer your boat with the outboard tilted down (vertical operating position). Shift the outboard to forward gear. This prevents the propeller from spinning freely. If additional ground clearance is required, the outboard should be tilted up using an accessory outboard support device. Refer to your local dealer for recommendations. Additional clearance may be required for railroad crossings, driveways and trailer bouncing.

 

IMPORTANT: Do not rely on the power trim/tilt system or tilt support lever to maintain proper ground clearance for trailering. The outboard tilt support lever is not intended to support the outboard for trailering.

 

http://www.mercurymarine.com/search-results/#trailering


fishing user avatarAl Wolbach reply : 

I have both and don't believe there is a nickels worth of difference in them. I was given the lock'n stow and I kept forgetting to remove it when I launched so I went back to the transom saver. The transom saver came with my 98 Champion and the motor does not move with it installed and I have not had any problems except the little rubber gromets wearing out on the motor end of it. Both appear to work equally well and I believe it gets down to who's sales propaganda you want to believe..............................Al


fishing user avatarjames 14 reply : 
  On 1/27/2013 at 3:20 AM, Al Wolbach said:
I have both and don't believe there is a nickels worth of difference in them. I was given the lock'n stow and I kept forgetting to remove it when I launched so I went back to the transom saver. The transom saver came with my 98 Champion and the motor does not move with it installed and I have not had any problems except the little rubber gromets wearing out on the motor end of it. Both appear to work equally well and I believe it gets down to who's sales propaganda you want to believe..............................Al

 

  On 1/27/2013 at 3:20 AM, Al Wolbach said:
I have both and don't believe there is a nickels worth of difference in them. I was given the lock'n stow and I kept forgetting to remove it when I launched so I went back to the transom saver. The transom saver came with my 98 Champion and the motor does not move with it installed and I have not had any problems except the little rubber gromets wearing out on the motor end of it. Both appear to work equally well and I believe it gets down to who's sales propaganda you want to believe..............................Al

So what do you do when the rubber grommets wear out besides buying a new TS?


fishing user avatarLong Mike reply : 

From what I can tell from the photos, the lock'nstow does not do what a transom saver does.  That is, transfer downward shock loading of the motor to the frame of the trailer.  Instead, the lock'nstow transfers shock loading to the lower part of the transom.  The intent of the "transom saver" is to do exactly that - save the transom, and it works very well.  Whether or not the transoms of today can handle that type of instantaneous downward loading that the lock'nstow delivers is immaterial to me.  I'll use a transom saver every time.  One less source of stress on the transom.  Just a little further info here:

 

http://www.ripoffreport.com/marine-accessories-manufacturer/swivl-eze-marine/swivl-eze-marine-transom-saver-2fffm.htm


fishing user avatarBassnChris reply : 
  On 1/27/2013 at 9:57 AM, Long Mike said:
From what I can tell from the photos, the lock'nstow does not do what a transom saver does.  That is, transfer downward shock loading of the motor to the frame of the trailer.  Instead, the lock'nstow transfers shock loading to the lower part of the transom.  The intent of the "transom saver" is to do exactly that - save the transom, and it works very well.  Whether or not the transoms of today can handle that type of instantaneous downward loading that the lock'nstow delivers is immaterial to me.  I'll use a transom saver every time.  One less source of stress on the transom. 

That is what it looked like to me........that it was putting the energy into the boat vs the trailer.

I believe I will continue to use the transom saver.


fishing user avatarNitroZ9 reply : 

Following is a quote from the owner of Lock-n-Haul, Jim Smith, which may be of interest regarding this topic: 

 

“I've been manufacturing a 'transom saver' replacement since 2006, and have been involved in this conversation literally hundreds of times. You'd think by now I'd have a standard answer to the question about motor support and I actually do, but I think it's better to talk about the mechanical issues involved.

 

In the old days before the power tilt system, there wasn't any way to keep the skeg off the road so a pretty bright individual figured out that by putting a bar between the lower unit and the trailer, that problem was solved. That discovery evolved into a form of support that would keep the freely pivoting motor from 'pivoting/bouncing' up and down, and keeping the full free-falling downward energy force from impacting the transom with a thud when the downward pivot range was suddenly reached. In those days the 'transom saver' was typically strapped to both the trailer and the lower unit so that the free motor couldn't pivot upward and off the trailer roller and hit the road, ‘ pole vaulting' the motor.

 

Boats in the past also had a lot of wood in their construction, and particularly built up in the transom for obvious reasons, and there might have been some flex in some of those transoms. On some boats you could actually grab the lower unit and push or pull to witness the transom flex in and out, and so common thinking was that by supporting the flexing transom at the trailer, the transom was being 'saved'.

 

Now fast forward to more modern times and advancements in every aspect of boat building have evolved to include structurally integrated wood free transoms, that are engineered to carry heavy motors that produce powerful forces to push the bigger boats up onto pad and through the water. Now days the power tilt piston is the equivalent of a solid support bar that holds the motor at any angle in its' range of motion, and hold it there solidly without movement.

 

So now that we have transoms that can handle the rated motor size, and power tilt systems that can keep the motor tilted, the only thing left is the fact that all of the motors rigging connections, the mounting and pivot bushings/bearings are still free to move uncontrolled on our rough roads, which is different from the movements that occur when the motor is pushing the boat through water, and the forces are mostly uni-directional (unless your prop is out of the water a lot like mine).

 

A 'transom saver' is really only a universal name for a motor support these days and doesn't actually share any load with the power tilt piston, and doesn't really save your transom. What you are seeing in your rear view mirror is not the motor 'bouncing' up and down, but shaking in all directions from the clearance in the bushings and bearings of the motors rigging. The more it shakes, the looser it gets and the looser it gets, the more it shakes.

 

The modern 'transom saver' needs to keep the motor from shaking and there isn't anything available that does a better job than the Lock-n-Haul. This solution is the first and only one that fits about 90% of all of the models and sizes of all outboard motor brands, and on any boat/trailer combo, that completely eliminates all of the clearance in the steering and tilt pivots . With the Lock-n-Haul properly installed, the motor can't move independently at all in any direction.”

 

 

There are plenty of boaters around the world that believe that trailer support is the best way to go. One consideration is the fact that by introducing a stressed connection between the weakest part of the outboard (lower unit), and an independent object (trailer) that can and does move independent of the boat no matter how well strapped down, you are allowing any sudden movement from potholes and such to directly hit the lower unit which can't move away from it because of the power tilt, and that thump goes straight through the motor to the transom. Another consideration is the fact that no matter how much down force you put on that style of support, you will not be able to eliminate all of the shaking. Even if you use a set of steering clips to keep your motor centered, it will still not be as solid as using a new style support that doesn't go to the trailer.”

 

 

Jim


fishing user avatarAl Wolbach reply : 
  On 1/27/2013 at 9:39 AM, james 14 said:
So what do you do when the rubber grommets wear out besides buying a new TS?

Replace the grommets......................Al


fishing user avatarjames 14 reply : 
  On 1/28/2013 at 12:07 AM, Al Wolbach said:
Replace the grommets......................Al

Well........DUH!  :grin:

 

 

Mine are riveted in and I haven't found anything to replace them with yet. The plate holding the grommets is bolted on and seems the most likely thing to replace, however, I haven't found any of those either. I'm just hoping I'm not left with the decision to either rig it or buy a new TS.


fishing user avatarAl Wolbach reply : 
  On 1/28/2013 at 12:46 AM, james 14 said:
Well........DUH!  :grin:

 

 

Mine are riveted in and I haven't found anything to replace them with yet. The plate holding the grommets is bolted on and seems the most likely thing to replace, however, I haven't found any of those either. I'm just hoping I'm not left with the decision to either rig it or buy a new TS.

Mine were riveted as well. I looked for a long time before I found them(about 6/7 years ago). The replacements have screws to replace the rivets(drill them out). I bought a set and was not sure that was the part I needed. Later I bought 3 sets to keep for the future but parted with them for friends. I saved the package. Now if I can find it I will pass the info to you. I am pretty sure I got them from Iboats.com.......................Al


fishing user avatarNBR reply : 

IMHO it is not the weight of the motor on the transom but the torque transmitted to the transom from the lower unit when the motor is raised for transport and the road bounces the trailer and boat. Transom savers move the load from the transom to the trailer. I think repair to the trailer is prefered to repair on the transom.


fishing user avatarFishing Rhino reply : 

Well all that poses a question in my mind.  I checked the prices of transom savers and lock n haul, and they are comparable.  In fact, my transom saver with the compression spring costs more than the lock n haul.  Why does Nitro provide a transom saver rather than a lock n haul with their boats?

 

If I were in the boat business, on the scale of Tracker Marine/Nitro I'd be on top of every aspect of my product, and if there was something better for the same money, that's what I would provide with my product.

 

I'm still neutral, and would use either, but I wouldn't spend extra money to change what came with the boat.

 

And the first device to hold the lower unit up was a block of wood.  The lower unit was raised, and a piece of wood that had been trimmed to make a snug fit between the mounting bracket and the pivot on the lower unit of the outboard.  I can remember this from the 1950s as my best friend's father sold boats.  That was before Teleflex cable replaced the pulley systems.  Once the motor was tilted, it was then laid over on it's side, and secured so it could not flop around on the motor pivot.

 

That even preceeded power tilt and trim on outboards.  My friend's father sold Scott Atwater which was changed to Scott when McCulloch bought out Scott Atwater, and shortly after they renamed the outboard line McCulloch. 

 

I had one of these.  They were really junk.  The water pump was located at the top of the lower unit, and the exhaust would blow directly onto it.  What made it worse was that it would drain down and it ran dry until it picked up a prime.  There were two impellers.  One to cool the engine and the second for the "Bailamatic".  The bailamatic had a foot at the end of a hose that would be placed in the lowest point of the hull, usually at the stern.  It provided a constant suction at the foot which would suck up any water more than a quarter inch deep.

 

The Bailamatic impeller was kept cool, and lubricated by a hole in the plate between the two impellers that forced water into the Bailamatic chamber.

 

scott-atwater-3-3hp-bait-o-matic-outboar

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fishing user avatarFishing Rhino reply : 

I've been pondering the two methods of keeping the motor tilted while watching Pitmaster's Barbeque Competition.  Then it hit me.

 

The block of wood between the mouting bracket and the pivot housing works the same way as the Lock n Haul.  Granted it was a rather crude, low tech version, but the physics  is the same in the way the forces are distributed to the same two components of the engine, independent of the trailer.


fishing user avatarmc6524 reply : 

I came across a gentleman that made plastic inserts to replace the rubber grommets and it works great and now will last me indefinately.


fishing user avatarLong Mike reply : 

Rhino, it's time to take your medicine.  You're rambling again.


fishing user avatarSouth FLA reply : 

I use this: http://www.moto-stops.com/

I also use the clips to make sure engine doesn't move side to side.

I debated which was better and asked the opinions of a structural engineer from GA Tech and a mechanical engineer from Pratt and Whitney after asking which would be better years ago and they basically said the only way to relieve transom shock from trailering would be to remove the huge weighted lever (Engine) on the transom, which is not practical.

The original "transom saver" allows the weighted lever to rest against the trailer so the downward force is transferred to the trailer, for example as the trailer drops off a curb. The force is first transferred into the tires, shocks/torsion axle, and then finally anything attached to the trailer in the opposite direction as the trailer levels out while being pullled along. The important aspect here is that the same weighted lever which is supported by the trailer through the transom saver also has forces acting in the opposite direction and ultimately back unto the transom. So unless you can come up with a device that cushions and distributes forces from rough trailering in BOTH directions you won't be protecting your transom completely! The moto stop or devices similar to it cushion/disperse impact force on transom to an extent on the drop, but when leveling out they provide no protection in the opposite way, the force is applied to transom. Therefore no solution is ideal, but you can avoid rough roads or at least avoid driving too fast down rough roads. I went with the moto_stop because of ease of use and the fact that if the transom saver if by SLIM chance becomes detached from the trailer or lower unit on a harsh bounce then you could have a severe situation. Imagine the arm which you have secured to the trailer coming off and pole vaulting into the road at speeds while still being attached to your lower unit, OUCH!

Recommended Yamaha Trailering Support Option:

https://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard/accessories/acscitemdetail/5/256/1093/9190/all/1/8045/0/detail.aspx

Mercury Recommendation:

http://www.mercurymarine.com/engines/outboards/about/faqs/#Trailering

Evinrude Etecs having built in trailering brackets!

Another interesting article:

http://www.boatus.com/trailerclub/magazine/2012/march/transomsavers.asp


fishing user avatarTraveler2586 reply : 

START QUOTE: "What precautions should I take when trailering my outboard powered boat with the engine attached?" [ I believe they are refering to the smaller motors ]

"Trailer your boat with the outboard tilted down (vertical operating position). Shift the outboard to forward gear. This prevents the propeller from spinning freely. If additional ground clearance is required, the outboard should be tilted up using an accessory outboard support device. Refer to your local dealer for recommendations. Additional clearance may be required for railroad crossings, driveways and trailer bouncing.

IMPORTANT: Do not rely on the power trim/tilt system or tilt support lever to maintain proper ground clearance for trailering. The outboard tilt support lever is not intended to support the outboard for trailering."  END QUOTE:

 

 

Years ago I came across a video on an engineering website that was done under contract to a saltwater boat manufacture. The purpose of the slow motion study was to gain an understanding of the impacts the new larger engines have on transoms, on the water (load forces) and off the water (free forces); the results of the study were to be used in new craft transom design.

 

The engineering firm placed sensors at key points on the transom mount (I think it was two at top and two at the bottom of the mount between the mount and the transom) to study the toque of the motor while pushing a boat, and while being towed. They simulated road bounce by hydraulics that was not shown in the video; and did both on the water & on the road studies that were not filmed (or shown).

 

As I’ve said it’s been years since I saw this video, but the main point that I recall was that small, sharp, vibrations were not a “big” problem for the motor or the transom, the big problem is the free load toque of the motor on the mounts when towed on roads that undulated the trailer up & down quickly. Some of the energy of the undulations was absorbed by the trailer tires and trailer springs, the rest was fed to the trailer, boat and motor.
With the motor tilted forward, and unbalanced, the undulations created a rocking force, top-to-bottom, at the top motor pivot point and transom; this translated into a rocking force that was translated via the hydraulic lifts to the lower half of the motor mount and into the lower transom. This free force action was deemed different from the load force imparted on the transom while “wave skipping”.

 

In the conclusions of the video the engineer stated that a support (transom-saver) firmly mounted to the trailer frame and under support pressure of the lower unit was recommended for transport to prevent the free load rocking force; the support would divide the load of the motor between the transom and the trailer.


Recalling the above, I now question my new spring loaded transom saver that rests on a trailer roller which has a 5/8” mounting shaft; that doesn’t strike me as a solid support. :(



 


fishing user avatarSouth FLA reply : 
  On 2/3/2013 at 9:02 AM, Traveler2586 said:

START QUOTE: "What precautions should I take when trailering my outboard powered boat with the engine attached?" [ I believe they are refering to the smaller motors ]

"Trailer your boat with the outboard tilted down (vertical operating position). Shift the outboard to forward gear. This prevents the propeller from spinning freely. If additional ground clearance is required, the outboard should be tilted up using an accessory outboard support device. Refer to your local dealer for recommendations. Additional clearance may be required for railroad crossings, driveways and trailer bouncing.

IMPORTANT: Do not rely on the power trim/tilt system or tilt support lever to maintain proper ground clearance for trailering. The outboard tilt support lever is not intended to support the outboard for trailering."  END QUOTE:

 

 

Years ago I came across a video on an engineering website that was done under contract to a saltwater boat manufacture. The purpose of the slow motion study was to gain an understanding of the impacts the new larger engines have on transoms, on the water (load forces) and off the water (free forces); the results of the study were to be used in new craft transom design.

 

The engineering firm placed sensors at key points on the transom mount (I think it was two at top and two at the bottom of the mount between the mount and the transom) to study the toque of the motor while pushing a boat, and while being towed. They simulated road bounce by hydraulics that was not shown in the video; and did both on the water & on the road studies that were not filmed (or shown).

 

As I’ve said it’s been years since I saw this video, but the main point that I recall was that small, sharp, vibrations were not a “big” problem for the motor or the transom, the big problem is the free load toque of the motor on the mounts when towed on roads that undulated the trailer up & down quickly. Some of the energy of the undulations was absorbed by the trailer tires and trailer springs, the rest was fed to the trailer, boat and motor.

With the motor tilted forward, and unbalanced, the undulations created a rocking force, top-to-bottom, at the top motor pivot point and transom; this translated into a rocking force that was translated via the hydraulic lifts to the lower half of the motor mount and into the lower transom. This free force action was deemed different from the load force imparted on the transom while “wave skipping”.

 

In the conclusions of the video the engineer stated that a support (transom-saver) firmly mounted to the trailer frame and under support pressure of the lower unit was recommended for transport to prevent the free load rocking force; the support would divide the load of the motor between the transom and the trailer.

Recalling the above, I now question my new spring loaded transom saver that rests on a trailer roller which has a 5/8” mounting shaft; that doesn’t strike me as a solid support. :(

 

 

So basically if the boat is securedly anchored to the trailer (tie downs

straps for the bow and stern) and using a solid support from trailer to the

lower unit , you can reduce the rocking force on transom,  but with a

spring loaded transom saver you are only allow the rocking to happen,

correct?

 


fishing user avatarTraveler2586 reply : 

"So basically if the boat is securely anchored to the trailer (tie downs
straps for the bow and stern) and using a solid support from trailer to the
lower unit , you can reduce the rocking force on transom, but with a
spring loaded transom saver you are only allow the rocking to happen
,
correct?"

 

IMHO, one would think so, so I'm starting to question the use of one in my mind. But let me say I'm am not a mechanical engineer.

 

Here's a case in point on the forces involved. Last year I was on my way down to Lake Guntersville, AL. I would do a walk-around of my rig at each rest/fuel stop which included checking the boat tie downs and the transom saver to insure everything was snug. While going through Knoxville, TN. I went on a section of elevated roadway that was very uneven; it created undulations in my rig that felt like I was riding a bucking bronco. Next thing I know a motorist pulls alongside and indicates I have a problem with my trailer, so I pull over to find my transom saver had come off the roller, drug on the roads surface, and broken the lower tang of the fork. That means the lower unit traveled at least three inches for the fork to clear the roller. This could only be a result of the motor rocking and lifting the transom saver off of the roller.
 

So now I use a safety strap on the transom saver that runs from one side of the fork around the frame member to the other side of the fork; hopefully that will prevent a similar incident in the future. The problem is, it’s a pain in the arse to put on while the boats live wells are draining.

 

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Bottom line…. IMHO, I don’t think any of the devices currently on the market can prevent motor rocking, they may dampen it to some extent but not eliminate it, there’s just too much weight in the power head, and the rubber lower unit safety strap on a transom saver will give way - it’s only designed to keep the saver attached to the lower unit; and the wedge devices transfer the full force of the rocking into the transom rather than dividing the motors weight between the transom and the trailers frame.

 

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fishing user avatarGlenn reply : 

I use the standard transom saver.  Been doing it for 25+ years now without any issues, so why change?

 

That said, be sure to remove it when launching the boat - especially if you strap it on the lower unit with a bungee cord.  The resulting impact with the prop during the hole shot launches the transom saver way, way, WAY up into the air, and it instantly sinks upon crashing into the water seemingly minutes later!

 

Don't ask me how I know this.  :)


fishing user avatarFishing Rhino reply : 
  On 2/4/2013 at 1:16 AM, Glenn said:

I use the standard transom saver.  Been doing it for 25+ years now without any issues, so why change?

 

That said, be sure to remove it when launching the boat - especially if you strap it on the lower unit with a bungee cord.  The resulting impact with the prop during the hole shot launches the transom saver way, way, WAY up into the air, and it instantly sinks upon crashing into the water seemingly minutes later!

 

Don't ask me how I know this.  :)

 

 

Do you think that could be replicated so that you could take a video? Sounds like it would make for great entertainment. I'll bet Bill Dance might do it if you give him the idea. He loves his bloopers, and so do I.


fishing user avatarFishing Rhino reply : 
  On 2/4/2013 at 12:55 AM, Traveler2586 said:

"So basically if the boat is securely anchored to the trailer (tie downs

straps for the bow and stern) and using a solid support from trailer to the

lower unit , you can reduce the rocking force on transom, but with a

spring loaded transom saver you are only allow the rocking to happen,

correct?"

 

IMHO, one would think so, so I'm starting to question the use of one in my mind. But let me say I'm am not a mechanical engineer.

 

Here's a case in point on the forces involved. Last year I was on my way down to Lake Guntersville, AL. I would do a walk-around of my rig at each rest/fuel stop which included checking the boat tie downs and the transom saver to insure everything was snug. While going through Knoxville, TN. I went on a section of elevated roadway that was very uneven; it created undulations in my rig that felt like I was riding a bucking bronco. Next thing I know a motorist pulls alongside and indicates I have a problem with my trailer, so I pull over to find my transom saver had come off the roller, drug on the roads surface, and broken the lower tang of the fork. That means the lower unit traveled at least three inches for the fork to clear the roller. This could only be a result of the motor rocking and lifting the transom saver off of the roller.

 

So now I use a safety strap on the transom saver that runs from one side of the fork around the frame member to the other side of the fork; hopefully that will prevent a similar incident in the future. The problem is, it’s a pain in the arse to put on while the boats live wells are draining.

 

Bottom line…. IMHO, I don’t think any of the devices currently on the market can prevent motor rocking, they may dampen it to some extent but not eliminate it, there’s just too much weight in the power head, and the rubber lower unit safety strap on a transom saver will give way - it’s only designed to keep the saver attached to the lower unit; and the wedge devices transfer the full force of the rocking into the transom rather than dividing the motors weight between the transom and the trailers frame.

 

 

 

I'm wondering which came first, the chicken or the egg.

 

Did the fork break which allowed the saver to drop, or did the saver bounce free and then drop which caused the saver's fork to break?  The hammering you've described might have broken the fork.  Just a thought.


fishing user avatarTraveler2586 reply : 
  On 2/4/2013 at 1:31 AM, Fishing Rhino said:

I'm wondering which came first, the chicken or the egg.

 

Did the fork break which allowed the saver to drop, or did the saver bounce free and then drop which caused the saver's fork to break?  The hammering you've described might have broken the fork.  Just a thought.

There was no damage to the roller or the roller shaft so I would think the upward movement of the lower unit pulled the TS off the roller; and it was the lower tang on the fork that broke, I suspect from digging into the roadway.  But I don't positively know.


fishing user avatarFishing Rhino reply : 

As I understand it, the motor should not tilt up or down if it is equipped with hydraulic tilt and trim.  The older outboards had a mechanism on the pivot bracket which "grabbed the tilt pin when the engine was shifted into reverse.  That prevented the motor from tilting up when in reverse.

 

I've looked at my boat and motor.  There is no such device.  Even if there were, there would be no tilt pin for it to "grab".   The motor must be held in place by the hydraulic piston so that it will not tilt up when reverse is used.  If the motor can rock enough to drop the fork from the trailer, there has to be some problem in the hydraulic system, be it a seal, valving, etc.

 

Note the angle of the transom saver in this photo.

 

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Mine is even closer to horizontal.  There is no way that can put significant upward thrust on the motor.  When the trailer encounters a bump in the road, the boat and trailer are compressed together.  That would put no force into the transom saver, unless you want to count the possible tiny bit of compression of the carpet on the bunks.  Now, when you run over a pothole, the boat will tend to separate from the trailer.  When that happens, the transom saver if secured at both ends, would try to draw the lower unit down.  But since there is not solid connection between the saver fork, and the trailer roller, all that happens is that the fork separates a bit from the trailer roller.

 

When the boat drops back onto the trailer, that gap between the roller and the saver fork closes, and the downward thump is absorbed by the transom, not the saver. 


fishing user avatarLong Mike reply : 

When I install my transom saver at the end of the day I trim the motor down FIRMLY into it.  I've had no problems with the motor bouncing as I travel.


fishing user avatarTraveler2586 reply : 
  On 2/4/2013 at 9:39 AM, Fishing Rhino said:

As I understand it, the motor should not tilt up or down if it is equipped with hydraulic tilt and trim.  The older outboards had a mechanism on the pivot bracket which "grabbed the tilt pin when the engine was shifted into reverse.  That prevented the motor from tilting up when in reverse.

 

I've looked at my boat and motor.  There is no such device.  Even if there were, there would be no tilt pin for it to "grab".   The motor must be held in place by the hydraulic piston so that it will not tilt up when reverse is used.  If the motor can rock enough to drop the fork from the trailer, there has to be some problem in the hydraulic system, be it a seal, valving, etc. [i agree with this thought, a hydraulic system problem could cause movement]

 

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Mine is even closer to horizontal.  There is no way that can put significant upward thrust on the motor.  When the trailer encounters a bump in the road, the boat and trailer are compressed together.  That would put no force into the transom saver, unless you want to count the possible tiny bit of compression of the carpet on the bunks.  Now, when you run over a pothole, the boat will tend to separate from the trailer.  When that happens, the transom saver if secured at both ends, would try to draw the lower unit down.  But since there is not solid connection between the saver fork, and the trailer roller, all that happens is that the fork separates a bit from the trailer roller.

 

When the boat drops back onto the trailer, that gap between the roller and the saver fork closes, and the downward thump is absorbed by the transom, not the saver. 

I've wondered if the boat was lifting off the trailer; but the weight of the boat gave me doubts.  I would not be surprised to find that the transom tie-down straps stretch somewhat.




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