Any Pelican Bass Raider Owners Out There? 2024
Andy Taylor reply :
I just bought the 8' electric model yesterday, and I have a couple questions. 1) Is there any way to use an anchor with it? The 2 handles don't appear strong enough. 2) Can the standard seat be replaced with a different padded seat? 3) Is anyone able to post a pic of a dolly/cart that works with the Bass Raider? Thanks very much.
wagn reply :
I had one of these for a couple of years and I gave it to my Dad when I upgraded to boats.
I really liked the little pelican. I had the 10 foot model but had no problem using an anchor on the handles.
I also replaced the seats with regular padded boat seats. Just a few screws to switch.
hope this helps
Andy Taylor reply :
Thanks wagn. You didn't use a dolly or cart with it? One lake I want to fish, the water is about 50 yards from the parking lot, and I need some sort of cart or dollly. I'm trying to figure out what I can build. Anyone?
bwell reply :
I have the pelican 10E, and I just tie my anchor to the bracket of my seat... I haven't replaced the seats yet but I would like to sometime. As far as loading and unloading, I just carry (with help) to the water...
Andy Taylor reply :
Thanks. I'll have to take a closer look at the seat. I'm still trying to figure out a small cart to build.
wagn reply :
I never did make a dolly for mine. If there wasn't a ramp I'd just carry it.
Although one time i did push it down railroad tracks for a half a mile to fish a secluded lake. Turns out it really wasn't worth the effort ;D
jkoch reply :
QuoteI had one of these for a couple of years and I gave it to my Dad when I upgraded to boats.I really liked the little pelican. I had the 10 foot model but had no problem using an anchor on the handles.
I also replaced the seats with regular padded boat seats. Just a few screws to switch.
hope this helps
Can you stand up and fish in the 10 footer?
bigdog321 reply :
Hey what's the deal with the mayberry nc ain't no such place is it ?
Andy Taylor reply :
QuoteHey what's the deal with the mayberry nc ain't no such place is it ?
I can dream, can't I? The real "Mayberry" is Mt. Airy, N.C. That's where Andy Griffith grew up.
Syppy reply :
Just bought the 8E over the weekend and found a dolly online from smallwatersports.com to put under the back and cart it back and forth to the water. I'm looking forward to using that one, otherwise it's kind of a short drag/hop to my water, lol. There's a vide on youtube for the dolly.
Now I'm just trying to find ANY kind of accessores for it. It's working really good with a Minn Kota 40lb I picked up at the same time. Anyone got any idea for where to find accessories for it, or where I can put a fish finder transducer on it?
zerofivenismo reply :
Andy,
I used to have a bass raider 10E, and I built a dolly to transport it for about $25. This is the only pic that I have of the dolly since I sold the boat some time ago. You can do a search on here for 'dolly' for an awesome homemade dolly. I built mines similar to it. PM me for more detailed explanation.
To Jkoch: Yes you can fish standing in a 10 footer.
bigdog321 reply :
Hello Sippi,I've got a 10' raider and the transducer is mounted to the trolling motor.You can get the bracket at basspro for about 10 bucks. I screwed the unit itself to a thin piece of wood and strap it down with a bungee cord when using it. Mine works great.
Syppy reply :
Do you run it on the Bow or the back? Found the bracket to mount it to the trolling motor. You strapped it to the wood like in the deck of the boat? Or to a chair? Sorry, just curious.
Sippi
wagn reply :
QuoteDo you run it on the Bow or the back? Found the bracket to mount it to the trolling motor. You strapped it to the wood like in the deck of the boat? Or to a chair? Sorry, just curious.Sippi
I put the trolling motor on the front, but you have to build a keel or some sort for the back, and mount that so you just don't spin around all the time.
Otherwise mount it on the back.
And yes you can stand up in the 8 or the 10. They are very stable. They just look like floating suitcases 
bigdog321 reply :
Hey Sippi, what i was trying to say is that i mounted the transducer to the motor with the bracket then i took the fishfinder base and screwed it down to a piece of scrap paneling then when i want to use it i just use a bungee cord to strap it down .If you look at the picture above it's strapped down kinda like where that yellow bungee is.
Andy Taylor reply :
Has anyone mounted rod holders or oarlocks on the Bass Raider? If so, how did you do it? Thanks.
Syppy reply :
QuoteHey Sippi, what i was trying to say is that i mounted the transducer to the motor with the bracket then i took the fishfinder base and screwed it down to a piece of scrap paneling then when i want to use it i just use a bungee cord to strap it down .If you look at the picture above it's strapped down kinda like where that yellow bungee is.
Yeah, I was trying to figure out where you put the scrap paneling. For some reason mine doesn't have a lot of spots that I could think to bungee something down =/ Was thinking about putting some cleats on it, but the wife was throwing fits when I mentioned anything being screwed into the hull.
Andy, I've found a bunch of little clamp things that I'm going to try out for rod holders and Fish finders, when they arrive I'll let you know how they work. And soon I may even be able to post pictures, lol.
Sippi
Andy Taylor reply :
Thanks Sippi. Would you agree that the plastic is not strong enough to use oars and oarlocks? It seems that they would have that as an option if possible.
Syppy reply :
Yeah, not without some kind of reinforcement. The "rails" just seem collapsible for anything trying to put any kind of strain on it like an oar would. And Pelicans website seems pretty devoid of any kind of accessories for it =/
Sippi
Syppy reply :
O.K. Andy, told ya I'd have pics up when I got it all setup. It's now mostly setup, I'm just missing the rod holder, but it's made by the same guy who does the fish finder/transponder bracket.Good stuff.
Andy Taylor reply :
Thanks Sippi, it looks nice. The white rope tied to the handle is for your anchor? I was afraid the handle wouldn't be strong enough. What did you do with the 2 rear wires(to keep them out of the way)? I don't use a front trolling motor. Do you sit on that cushion when fishing? Thanks.
Syppy reply :
Nah, the white rope on the front is just a kind of "mooring" rope, for "tying up" and keeping control of it. I haven't quite worked out the anchor as of yet, but haven't needed one thus far.
For now the rear wires just run down one of the deck on the floor, I'm going to floor conduit them into the back when I get a chance. Do you mean for the trolling motor? or for the transducer/fish finder? the trolling motor is rear-mounted.
I sometimes sit on the cushion, mostly it's just to satisfy VA's regulation for a throwing rescue device on board all boats.
Andy Taylor reply :
I'm talking about the red and black wires from the factory(that come out of the right, rear side). They apparently send power to the front trollong motor plug. I'll probably just tape them to the side of boat, because I'm not going to use a front trolling motor.
Syppy reply :
Ahhh yeah yeah. I just wrapped them into a bundle next to the battery box for now, but taping them to the side wouldn't be a bad idea either.
dman reply :
love my raider!
Andy Taylor reply :
dman, did you turn the trolling motor head around? Do you like it better in front like that? Can it be done to any motor? I have the Minn Kota Endura 30 on my Raider. Thanks.
dman reply :
yea, i turned the head around..there is only one screw for that, took 2 minutes total (thats the same motor i use)....I do like it better up front, its easier to control while sitting and easy to view the fishfinder...I spin a little but i have a friend fabricating rudder for me now....buster boats makes rudders but way overpriced:
Andy Taylor reply :
Thanks dman. Can you post a pic of your rudder when it's done?
cBooms@SML reply :
i just bought my pelican 10e in march and i love it. my dad has been researching ideas on how to make a dolly for it as the trailer we have at smith mountain lake is about 500ft from the water. i use the handles as a place to secure my boat to the dock. i made it easy, as we already have two O shaped screws in the dock, about the same length as the boat, and i got about 10" long pieces of rope and tied one end to a caribeaner and the other end to a handle, so when im coming in i just clip on to the dock. i have mine on a 36lb MK trolling motor but im looking for any outboard for it. i havent got new seats for it yet, but i have found that the frames of my seats dont fit nicely into the grooves on the boat anymore, i kinda have to shove it in there, and my seats wont really slide up and down the boat either.
cBooms@SML reply :
QuoteAhhh yeah yeah. I just wrapped them into a bundle next to the battery box for now, but taping them to the side wouldn't be a bad idea either.
i have a 36lb thrust MK trolling motor. My boat has the wires that go from the back to the plug in the front, how do i hook up the motor to the front power wise?
dman reply :
QuoteQuoteAhhh yeah yeah. I just wrapped them into a bundle next to the battery box for now, but taping them to the side wouldn't be a bad idea either.i have a 36lb thrust MK trolling motor. My boat has the wires that go from the back to the plug in the front, how do i hook up the motor to the front power wise?
you need one of these:
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2599817
cBooms@SML reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteAhhh yeah yeah. I just wrapped them into a bundle next to the battery box for now, but taping them to the side wouldn't be a bad idea either.i have a 36lb thrust MK trolling motor. My boat has the wires that go from the back to the plug in the front, how do i hook up the motor to the front power wise?
you need one of these:
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2599817
sweet! thanks so much dman!!!!!
cBooms@SML reply :
QuoteO.K. Andy, told ya I'd have pics up when I got it all setup. It's now mostly setup, I'm just missing the rod holder, but it's made by the same guy who does the fish finder/transponder bracket.Good stuff.
sippi, i LOVE the way you mounted your fish finder, im definitely going to be doing the same for mine!
Andy Taylor reply :
I made a very simple improvement that made my Raider much easier to fish out of. The ole milk carton tip. Inside a milk carton, I zip tied 3 pieces of 1.25" PVC for 3 rod holders. Then I zip tied an old piece of plastic tube to hold my bug spray. The carton also holds my anchor and rope, small tackle box, and gloves(northern pike). If you use a net, another piece of 1.25" PVC would work great for that. Everything is within easy reach, and not taking up floor space. A bungie cord holds the milk carton from moving around.
dman reply :
QuoteI made a very simple improvement that made my Raider much easier to fish out of. The ole milk carton tip. Inside a milk carton, I zip tied 3 pieces of 1.25" PVC for 3 rod holders. Then I zip tied an old piece of plastic tube to hold my bug spray. The carton also holds my anchor and rope, small tackle box, and gloves(northern pike). If you use a net, another piece of 1.25" PVC would work great for that. Everything is within easy reach, and not taking up floor space. A bungie cord holds the milk carton from moving around.
excellent! now to find a milkcrate
Andy Taylor reply :
Instead of stealing one, I bought one at Target for about $2.00
Pete0402 reply :
Andy, you wouldn't happen to have any pics of this modification?
Thanks in advance
Andy Taylor reply :
It says the pics are too large. Does anyone know how to reduce them?
QuoteAndy, you wouldn't happen to have any pics of this modification?Thanks in advance
badcrawdad reply :
http://www.resize2mail.com
cBooms@SML reply :
here are the mods i made. i used a plastic storage box for more room, and a lid so i could keep the rain and sun off of it. my dad also made a little dolly for me, its really easy and simple. he put bolts and such in it so its collapsible and he made it in about 15- 20 minutes.
cBooms@SML reply :
of course, the dolly arms are a bit wide, but we will adjust that when we get down to virginia to my boat. they are supposed to go in the middle of the two pontoons.
the following is one more pic of the boat mod.
Syppy reply :
Quotesippi, i LOVE the way you mounted your fish finder, im definitely going to be doing the same for mine!
lol, thanks. I've added a Rod holder to the other side of that chair in much the same fashion, and it works really well for keeping the spare out of the way, or when I get irritated and troll to destroy some crappies.
I like the milk crate or rubbermaid mod, seems like it would keep everything in one place and "organized". I typically have two people on the boat, so I don't know how feasible that setup would be for me personally, but I dare say it would work wonders for a single person day.
My biggest problem at the moment is everything sliding around in the bottom either all the way to the back or front whenever I try to dolly wheel it down hills to the water. That rubbermaid idea would at least keep everything in one chunk sliding back and forth for me. I'm thinking I may need to line the bottom with a rubber mat or something.
cBooms@SML reply :
i figured that the rubbermaid would also be big enough for a cooler. and in the situation your in with everything sliding, bungee cords will become your bestfriend haha im fortunate enough to have a golf car at our place so i drive down and pick everything besides the boat up and then i come back for the boat.
Andy Taylor reply :
here's the pics
pudmunk reply :
My buddy has a 4 y/o Bass Raider 10E with fold down seats that he's selling
Good condition, hardly used
He said he was gonna list it on CL for $700 comes with 36lb troll and a suspect battery (he's not sure if it holds a charge seeing he hasn't used it in over a year)
Is that a "fair" price? I was thinking there will be tons of deals come winter time
I think I'm gonna offer him 350 and work my way up to a max of 450-500
What do you guys think it's worth?
cBooms@SML reply :
QuoteMy buddy has a 4 y/o Bass Raider 10E with fold down seats that he's sellingGood condition, hardly used
He said he was gonna list it on CL for $700 comes with 36lb troll and a suspect battery (he's not sure if it holds a charge seeing he hasn't used it in over a year)
Is that a "fair" price? I was thinking there will be tons of deals come winter time
I think I'm gonna offer him 350 and work my way up to a max of 450-500
What do you guys think it's worth?
i bought my two year old 10e and my 2 year old minn kota 36lb trolling motor together for 550. they were only used twice! the package also came with an anchor and 100ft of rope as long as a light and battery
dman reply :
QuoteMy buddy has a 4 y/o Bass Raider 10E with fold down seats that he's sellingGood condition, hardly used
He said he was gonna list it on CL for $700 comes with 36lb troll and a suspect battery (he's not sure if it holds a charge seeing he hasn't used it in over a year)
Is that a "fair" price? I was thinking there will be tons of deals come winter time
I think I'm gonna offer him 350 and work my way up to a max of 450-500
What do you guys think it's worth?
$700 seems a bit much...I think up to $450 is fair with the motor as long as everything is in really good great shape
pudmunk reply :
Thanks, good info
pudmunk reply :
My other buddy says "DICKS is selling the 10ft for $499" I found it hard to believe.
however the model # and color is different it looks very similiar
anyone know the difference between these two models
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2131686
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3684184&clickId=112280361&affiliateCustomId=&affiliateId=3578
Red reply :
I have the 8 footer with a 30lb Minn Kota on it. I guess I am unlike y'all, I just screwed the depth finder right to the hull! I also screwed some of those rod deck straps for bass boats to the sides to hold my rods. However I am brainstorming a new idea for this to eliminate the tangling. I have four rods of my own, which isn't too bad but add in my buddies two or three rods and it can be a mess. No prewires for me, they just lay on the floor. My motor is on the front so I had to splice longer wires in. I also tie the anchor to the seat bracket as someone mentioned. As for standing it is not a problem, especially since I cut a 3/4 piece of plywood to cover the entire floor. Trust me this makes a HUGE difference. The regular floor is kinda "spongy", with this plywood it is nice and solid. I also added a nice padded seat and I welded up a 6 inch riser as well, so I sit up a bit higher. I would think that having rods standing up in the milk crates would be in the way of casting, no problems with that? I always launch at ramps so loading and unloading is no problem. I also have a battery operated red and green light clamped to the front and the "post" light mounted on the back with clips to attach to battery. Live vests are stored under the seat, tied up under there. Anyway I love "The Bass Tub" and I have caught a ton of fish from it!! I will try to get some pics up here soon. Also I welcome any ideas for horizontal rod storage.
Cliff
pudmunk reply :
yes please post some pics
also bump for anyone who knows the difference in the two dicks sporting goods links I put up
Bassin_0502 reply :
Don't know why the price difference, but one is listed as the 10E, the second lacks the 'E'. The 10E is pre-wired which means that there is a black/red cable with eyelet connectors sticking out of teh inside of the hull in the rear, and a female trolling motor plug mounted in the bow. So you can hook up your battery in the rear and run the trolling motor in the front with no wires. Only problem is I think you need to buy a male connector for you trolling motor leads from Pelican at a pretty high price point, around 35-40 bucks if memory serves. My 10E also had folding seat backs (which is nice by the way, they don't stick up when transporting).
dman reply :
QuoteDon't know why the price difference, but one is listed as the 10E, the second lacks the 'E'. The 10E is pre-wired which means that there is a black/red cable with eyelet connectors sticking out of teh inside of the hull in the rear, and a female trolling motor plug mounted in the bow. So you can hook up your battery in the rear and run the trolling motor in the front with no wires. Only problem is I think you need to buy a male connector for you trolling motor leads from Pelican at a pretty high price point, around 35-40 bucks if memory serves. My 10E also had folding seat backs (which is nice by the way, they don't stick up when transporting).
yea weird, the one with the extra wiring (10E) is the cheaper one....Thats a good deal...In one of my earlier posts i put a link to the plug you would need for your trolling motor up front - its also at dicks....
Red, id love to see pics of your setup ! you dont have any leaks drilling right into the boat itself? i thought about it but got nervous about leaks
cBooms@SML reply :
QuoteQuoteDon't know why the price difference, but one is listed as the 10E, the second lacks the 'E'. The 10E is pre-wired which means that there is a black/red cable with eyelet connectors sticking out of teh inside of the hull in the rear, and a female trolling motor plug mounted in the bow. So you can hook up your battery in the rear and run the trolling motor in the front with no wires. Only problem is I think you need to buy a male connector for you trolling motor leads from Pelican at a pretty high price point, around 35-40 bucks if memory serves. My 10E also had folding seat backs (which is nice by the way, they don't stick up when transporting).yea weird, the one with the extra wiring (10E) is the cheaper one....Thats a good deal...In one of my earlier posts i put a link to the plug you would need for your trolling motor up front - its also at dicks....
Red, id love to see pics of your setup ! you dont have any leaks drilling right into the boat itself? i thought about it but got nervous about leaks
well wouldnt you just put some marine grade adhesive stuff on the screw for a tight fit? i forget the name of the stuff though.
Red reply :
I will post pics tomorrow if I remember, forgot tonight. My boat hasn't taken on a drop of water yet in the hull. I have been meaning to caulk around everything that I screwed on, but haven't got around to it yet. I only have screwed into the top "rail" section, nothing down in the floor area or anything like that. I will shoot some pictures tomorrow.
Andy Taylor reply :
Does anyone have any pics of a dolly/cart to use with the 8' Raider?
I saw the pics of cBooms, but I'm confused by how it's used. Thanks.
Syppy reply :
QuoteDoes anyone have any pics of a dolly/cart to use with the 8' Raider?I saw the pics of cBooms, but I'm confused by how it's used. Thanks.
I posted a pic with the dolly that I use in the pics above, real easy to use. Found it through a youtube video that had a link to their website. But can be easily constructed.
Andy Taylor reply :
QuoteQuoteDoes anyone have any pics of a dolly/cart to use with the 8' Raider?I saw the pics of cBooms, but I'm confused by how it's used. Thanks.
I posted a pic with the dolly that I use in the pics above, real easy to use. Found it through a youtube video that had a link to their website. But can be easily constructed.
Thanks Sippi. What's the overall length of it? Would you be able to post a couple pics from different angles?(maybe I could figure out how to build one). Are the wood pieces 2X6's? Any other help on materials, sizes would be great. Thanks.
Red reply :
Here are some pics of my rig...The Bass Tub ;D
Full shot loaded and ready to go to the lake.
Here is the front light, clamps on, battery (D cell) operated.
Rear light, alligator clips to battery. It also folds down out of the way.
Graph
Seat with Riser I welded up at work and aftermarket padded seat. Life vest strapped under it.
Three rods straped in on one side, three is about the max per side. Tangles alot though.
Last is the floor with the plywood I added. Someday this will get carpet and the BigFoot switch for the motor will be screwed in place. I highly recommend the plywood, makes a world of difference when standing. All my wires just lay on the floor, if I had a trailer they would be strapped neatly, but I have to remove everything for storage.
There ya go, still looking for any horizontal rod storage ideas.
pudmunk reply :
Sweet pics bro
Need any carpet, I'm your guy as my family own a rug store
LMK
dman reply :
Red, thanks for posting the pics.
I was nervous about screwing in the rod straps but im gonna do it now. even if it leaks a little its better than loosing a rod....I might also hafta put a floor in now! Cant you run your wires under the floor?
Red reply :
The floor is a must in my opinion, especially if you like to stand. One problem I forgot to mention about the floor, it makes it alot heavier. I think I am going to cut mine in half seems I am mostly by myself. I will just keep the floor piece in front where I am fishing. I suppose you could run the wires under the floor, but I take my boat off and store it by my house so it would just be hassle each time. I am considering putting a quick disconnect on all the wiring so I could run it under then just leave it there. Then plug everything in each time. Either way, everything works great, I love this little rig. It is cheap and easy, just the way I like it! ;D
I have been trying to organize a club/tournament in my area for small boats, just isn't enough interest though. Too bad, I think it would be fun.
Andy Taylor reply :
QuoteQuoteDoes anyone have any pics of a dolly/cart to use with the 8' Raider?I saw the pics of cBooms, but I'm confused by how it's used. Thanks.
I posted a pic with the dolly that I use in the pics above, real easy to use. Found it through a youtube video that had a link to their website. But can be easily constructed.
Thanks Sippi. How many inches are there between the 2 bunks on the dolly? Don't the angled braces between the 2 pontoons(underside of boat) interfere with the 2 bunks? Are the 2 bunks 2X6's? I'm trying to figure out how to build that dolly.
cBooms@SML reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteDoes anyone have any pics of a dolly/cart to use with the 8' Raider?I saw the pics of cBooms, but I'm confused by how it's used. Thanks.
I posted a pic with the dolly that I use in the pics above, real easy to use. Found it through a youtube video that had a link to their website. But can be easily constructed.
Thanks Sippi. How many inches are there between the 2 bunks on the dolly? Don't the angled braces between the 2 pontoons(underside of boat) interfere with the 2 bunks? Are the 2 bunks 2X6's? I'm trying to figure out how to build that dolly.
well the middle PVC pipe isn't glued in yet, so it can be adjusted to fit either on the inside of the pontoons or the outside. we still have to adjust it
Red reply :
Another thing I don't think I mentioned was that I use a "Bigfoot" switch for my motor. Basically it splices into the TM wires and now you can operate your hand control motor with your foot. This is a big improvement! You still have to steer with your hand but I just put the motor on "1" and start cruising the shoreline and make small steering adjustments as I go.
http://www.amazon.com/Trolling-Switch-Action-Operated-Motors/dp/B001BAKM60
Andy Taylor reply :
Thanks Sippi. How many inches are there between the 2 bunks on the dolly? Don't the angled braces between the 2 pontoons(underside of boat) interfere with the 2 bunks? Are the 2 bunks 2X6's? I'm trying to figure out how to build that dolly.
Syppy reply :
QuoteThanks Sippi. How many inches are there between the 2 bunks on the dolly? Don't the angled braces between the 2 pontoons(underside of boat) interfere with the 2 bunks? Are the 2 bunks 2X6's? I'm trying to figure out how to build that dolly.
Sippi, are you out there? Please check your PM's. Thanks.
Andy Taylor reply :
Thanks Sippi. So, are you happy with the dolly? Don't the angle braces(between the pontoons) interfere with the bunks? Do you think I should build one for my 8' Bass Raider, or go with something else?
electricbass reply :
Hey all I just registered on here today. I would like to know how the rudder idea worked out on the boat?? I just go a 10' bass raider and had it out today and I was spinning quite a bit in light wind. Did the rudder make a difference? If so I will be adding one soon.
electricbass reply :
For a dolly I just took 2"X4" and mounted threaded rod to it and used nuts and washers to hold two wheel barrow wheels onto them then used two large eye bolts at the ends of the board to attach a cargo strap that wraps around the back of the boat. Put all my gear in and just pick it up from the front and wheel it on down to the water. Cheap and easy. But I might try to make something a little more heavy duty in the future.
Andy Taylor reply :
QuoteFor a dolly I just took 2"X4" and mounted threaded rod to it and used nuts and washers to hold two wheel barrow wheels onto them then used two large eye bolts at the ends of the board to attach a cargo strap that wraps around the back of the boat. Put all my gear in and just pick it up from the front and wheel it on down to the water. Cheap and easy. But I might try to make something a little more heavy duty in the future.
Hey, you stole my idea. Mine is exactly the same. I also added a piece of carpet runner on top of the 2X4 so it's non-slip. It works great.
Andy Taylor reply :
I made another small improvement to my Bass Raider. I had a scrap piece of 1/4" luan plywood and some indoor/outdoor carpet, so I glued the carpet down and laid it in there. It added very little weight, and it is much more comfy with the flat, carpeted floor(since I'm usually barefoot in the boat).
WVBassHunter reply :
I have the 10E and love it! I have the Minn Kota 55 on mine in the transom mount and it does very nicely even in high winds! Only thing I get bothered with is drift in the wind. I am going to experiment with a clamp on rudder in the front that stays straight all the time to see if it helps me move around easier when by myself. I have the battery up front to even out the weight some.
I have also mounted a Humminbird PiranhMax 170 w/ the transducer to the right rear hull. Screwed in with stainless screws and 5 minute epoxy to help keep the wet stuff out.
I am now looking to get a couple rod holders to use for both crappie fishing and night time cats!
Just haven't found the right ones yet that will secure spinning reels tight.
electricbass reply :
Has anyone done anything to the bottom of their boat. I was thinking about a paint on bed liner to keep it from getting all scratched up. I do my best to never drag it but it still happens sometimes. Anyway your thoughts on this would be great!!!
Pete0402 reply :
Hey WVBassHunter you wouldn't happen to have a pic of where you mounted your transducer would you. I was thinking of mounting mine in between the pontoons to prevent it from getting dinged up. But maybe your placement is a better solution any help would be appreciated
pudmunk reply :
QuoteI have the 10E and love it! I have the Minn Kota 55 on mine in the transom mount and it does very nicely even in high winds! Only thing I get bothered with is drift in the wind. I am going to experiment with a clamp on rudder in the front that stays straight all the time to see if it helps me move around easier when by myself. I have the battery up front to even out the weight some.
Just from experience, put the motor up front to pull you ,and put a clamp rudder in the rear.
Syppy reply :
QuoteI have the 10E and love it! I have the Minn Kota 55 on mine in the transom mount and it does very nicely even in high winds! Only thing I get bothered with is drift in the wind. I am going to experiment with a clamp on rudder in the front that stays straight all the time to see if it helps me move around easier when by myself. I have the battery up front to even out the weight some.I have also mounted a Humminbird PiranhMax 170 w/ the transducer to the right rear hull. Screwed in with stainless screws and 5 minute epoxy to help keep the wet stuff out.
I am now looking to get a couple rod holders to use for both crappie fishing and night time cats!
Just haven't found the right ones yet that will secure spinning reels tight.
I got these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014437HY/ref=oss_product and they work great for the catfishing, and I just screw them to the seat brackets like I did the fish finder. One on either side for max trolling effectiveness, lol. Fits both spinning reels and baitcasting very nicely.
bigdog321 reply :
Hey Sippi or anybody else out there, have you given any thought to mounting a bow mount trolling motor with foot control on a bass raider. I've seen that some of you guys have great ideas on setting these boats up ,so what do you think?
bassman018 reply :
I honestly wouldn't want to spend the money for a foot control but that's me, one of my buddies put a peice of plack PVC on the end of a 40 pound Minn Kota transom motor so that way if he shifts his body he can turn the Raider, Just my .02
Syppy reply :
Yeah, when I first went looking for the motor for mine I wanted one with foot control. Then I started looking at where in the boat I was going to put it in amongst all the gear, and how to secure it down, etc... etc...
Then I got it out on the water and realized it was small enough if I leaned one way or the other I could turn it anyway and didn't have to deal with foot pedal so I myself some money in that respect and did without.
WVBassHunter reply :
Thanks for the reply's about the motor on the bow....but the places I go are very hard to get to and it is much easier to "shore" the boat with the motor on the transom....
I messed around some with battery placement and found a the "sweet" spot that will allow me to move easy and get around standing trees without bouncing off them.
Oh well I love this boat regardless!!!!
WVBassHunter reply :
QuoteHey WVBassHunter you wouldn't happen to have a pic of where you mounted your transducer would you. I was thinking of mounting mine in between the pontoons to prevent it from getting dinged up. But maybe your placement is a better solution any help would be appreciated
No pic yet...and sorry for taking so long to get back with you....we are getting ready to lose hours at work and all of our scheduled OT and go to a 3 shift monday through friday which I hate!
Anyway.... If you look at the right rear pontoon that has the white sticker for the model and whatever else is printed on it...I put the top of the hummingbird bracket flush with the bottom of the sticker. CENTERED is a must! Then I left the transducer a tick loose in the ratchets so I can fold it up for loading into my truck and keep it from getting nailed unloading if the ramp or ground is rough. I will try to get you a picture of the boat this weekend and how I mounted everything.
Matt
Red Sox Bass reply :
Saw some great ideas for the Bass Raider on this forum and did a modification to the casting deck idea for my 10E... I added a casting stool too! check it out! Pelican should consider making this an option! It's very stable! If you are on you boat alone it's the only way to fish. I have mk in the front and back and only use the front motor when I'm on the casting deck.
It apears I can't add a phot with my iPad... Will need to go to the laptop...
Red Sox Bass reply :
Here are some photos...
Red Sox Bass reply :
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pudmunk reply :
Can you post pics of it all together? Very interested to see as I'm considering a Raider
Red Sox Bass reply :
Here it is...
Red Sox Bass reply :
I have 2 aluminum 1/2inch u bars bolted under the seat bracket providing extra support to the 3/4 inch plywood - it's solid!
pudmunk reply :
Awesome!
So that thing just pops right out?
Can we get a side view of the whole thing?
Red Sox Bass reply :
That's correct, it pops off! The Bass Raider is an incredible boat! The casting deck is a must!
Red Sox Bass reply :
The finished product!
Owasco reply :
I have been thinking about getting a small boat. I currently do not own one. How stable are they? Are they very tippy? Is it good for two 200 lb people? I mostly fish small lakes and ponds. Occasional a larger lake as well.
I guess I really Just want to know how stable they are.
Thanks,
Marc
Grey Wolf reply :
QuoteI have been thinking about getting a small boat. I currently do not own one. How stable are they? Are they very tippy? Is it good for two 200 lb people? I mostly fish small lakes and ponds. Occasional a larger lake as well.I guess I really Just want to know how stable they are.
Thanks,
Marc
Very stable but are built for small ponds , the side walls are not too high which could cause problems in a larger lake.
Owasco reply :
Will a very small gas powered motor work on it as well? I'm talking about under 5 hp.
Grey Wolf reply :
QuoteWill a very small gas powered motor work on it as well? I'm talking about under 5 hp.
3 hp maxium. JMHO
dman reply :
QuoteQuoteWill a very small gas powered motor work on it as well? I'm talking about under 5 hp.3 hp maxium. JMHO
i think they are rated for 5hp
Andy Taylor reply :
I finally replaced the standard seat and bracket with a 3/4" pedestal base. I just removed the swivel bracket from the frame, and mounted the pedestal base with the same 4 mini U-bolts. Now I can use the same seats I use in my bigger boat. It is so much more comfortable, and my back definitely likes it.
Red reply :
They are very very stable. I am about 200lbs and I can stand and fish no problems. I fish mine on Lake Waco, which is about 8,000 acres. I would not recommend doing a lake this size in high winds though. I got caught out in about 25mph winds once. I had about 4 inches of water in the floor of the boat by the time I got to the ramp. I was never afraid that the boat was going to capsize or anything. It handled the bigger waves just fine, but being square the waves just crashed against it and splashed into the boat. I never go out if it is that windy before I launch though. If it is more than 15mph I stay home, or fish and area of the lake where I will be protected from the wind. Recently I was considering upgrading to a used, older bass boat, but then I thought, scrw that, I catch plenty from "The Bass Tub" and it dosen't use gas, oil or require and kind of real maintenance. Even if someday I do get a bigger boat, I will keep the Pelican too!
pudmunk reply :
that's a bad rairder
Red reply :
i will admit on that day, being the first time experiencing bigger waves with it, I was a touch nervous at first. After seeing how it handled, my nerves relaxed. I don't sweat it now when I see them big rollers coming after a bass boat or something passes by. The problem isn't how the boat handles the waves, on windy days, it is keeping the boat where I want it to fish that is a problem.
Syppy reply :
QuoteI have been thinking about getting a small boat. I currently do not own one. How stable are they? Are they very tippy? Is it good for two 200 lb people? I mostly fish small lakes and ponds. Occasional a larger lake as well.I guess I really Just want to know how stable they are.
Thanks,
Marc
This video is actually for another brand called the Bass Hunter, but the Pelican is essentially the same boat. Very similar construction and stability. Around 1:30 you can see the weight/stability demos that they do that also worked with my little boat =)
Red reply :
I had forgotten about this modification as it wasn't mounted at the time I took the other pictures. I made this extension handle at work. A few pieces of flat plate metal and a piece of 1" electrical conduit. I hammered on those plates like an old blacksmith until I got them shaped to fit the motor, welded everything up and used 3/8 bolts to mount it. Sprayed it all down with galvanized spray paint, still rusted a bit though. I also lined the plates with some rubber tape to keep from scratching motor up really bad. This handle sits right at my waist when I am standing. So with this and the Bigfoot switch I can fish along without having to bend over to operate motor or steer.
Red reply :
I have been wanting to carpet the piece of wood I use for my floor board so today I did it. However I changed it up a bit. 99% of the time I fish alone, that long piece of plywood is kinda heavy. So I cut it down so it is just big enough for me to stand on when I choose to be standing. The Home Depot couldn't sell me a small piece of carpet so I had to by a 12x3 piece. It actually ended up being almost 4 feet wide. Anyway I cut the piece I needed so it would wrap under to the bottom. Then I used the rest of the carpet, cut into squares the size of the board, for "cushion". So I have 7 layers of carpet total on the top side. I used a combination of staples and screws to secure it. I like it, it is nice and spongy and soft, very comfortable. I also mounted my Bigfoot switch down permanetly. Also the whole thing is not fastened to the boat, so I can slide it depending on where in the boat I am sitting. Here is the picture.
Also I ran all cables under the floor deck and fastened them down with some rubber tape I get from the roofers at work, once the sun gets to it, it is stuck down good. I also started rawing up a design for a trailer I plan to build this winter when things slow down at work.
WVBassHunter reply :
Question....
I installed 2 seats from Cabela's that we got the other day and left the swivel bracket centered on the bracket. Very similar to the seat you have. The wife and I went out today and I felt myself being further over the side of the boat while fishing and along with this, the boat was leaning farther to the side we were fishing.
Should I off-set the seats a couple inches and designate one side for fishing more so when having someone with me it will be less likely to have a tipover?
Thanks!
BTW...fishing today was dead! One crappie and no bucket heads!
Red reply :
I think you could have two people stand on the side of this boat and it wouldn't tipover. You could try offsetting them, but if it were me, I wouldn't worry about it, unless it makes things too uncomfortable.
dman reply :
red,
nice job.....I think im gonna make a floorboard just like that after seeing it...even with the bigfoot!
Red reply :
Of all the mods/purchases I have made for this boat, that Bigfoot switch was the very best one.
Dennis1022 reply :
I have a Pelican 10E Bass Hunter. I made my own cart for totting my boat with all gear and battery, motor, seats(cushion) anchor and all my rods and tackle boxes. I'm actually going to sell it due to back problems. So if anyone knows someone who wants a boat that was never used yet check out the ad in Ebay classifieds of Greensboro, NC and it is #3261800 under Boats. But Here is some photos of the totter.
Hope this helps you about the trailer totter, it's made from the bottom of a lawn mower cart and plywood and straps and bungy straps.
WVBassHunter reply :
Great looking rig! That is the exact way I have my transducer mounted if anyone is wondering about mounting theirs! Well worth it and you don't have to worry about pinching your wires in the motor brackets!
Matt
Red reply :
QuoteGreat looking rig! That is the exact way I have my transducer mounted if anyone is wondering about mounting theirs! Well worth it and you don't have to worry about pinching your wires in the motor brackets!Matt
My very first trip with a depth finder I cut the ducer line as soon as I launched and put the motor down. I solved this problem though. The section of wire that runs down the motor shaft I attached to the very bottom of the shaft and the very top. The loose section inbetween I taped to a piece of copper wire(like you would use to wire your house). This is very stiff and holds its shape. I shaped it in a big arc so it keeps the ducer cable away from the tilting mechanism. Works good.
EricB reply :
I was wondering if anyone has a problem with the seat and base tipping over? I recently had a problem with one tipping over backwards, front to rear, not side to side. If so remedies to fix the problem? My boat is a coleman bass boat, I believe it is made by pelican.
Thanks
eric
Andy Taylor reply :
Did the seat tip over backwards while you were leaning backwards? If so, don't lean backwards.
callen181 reply :
Are these style boats fat man friendly? How do they handle with a small outboard on them? Right now fishing out of a very small jon boat with 5 hp briggs on it. Really like the looks and mods, and thinking this would be much more stable than what I have now. Just not how sure my outboard would work on it. Anybody use an outboard on one?
callen181 reply :
Ok, found some answers to my questions and have taken the plunge. Picked up my new to me boat this morning, it is old, covered in mud, was under a wood pile and has no seats or seat frames, but was only 75 bucks. Put it in a local pond and it floats, and able to stand and walk from end to end. It is a Coleman ram x-pro, seemed to be really stable right now with nothing in it. The plan is to put a ply wood floor in it with a pedestal seat in the back with my briggs 5hp and try and leave the front empty with just the battery and the trolling motor. I was shocked that the plate said it was rated for 550 lbs!!! people and stuff, and a 5hp motor. But have my new winter project...
Owasco reply :
I'm definitely going to pick one of these up. I think I'd like the 10' version. It seems perfect for the type of fishing that I do (I can't justify an expensive bass boat To the wife).
Thanks.
Red reply :
You will like it for sure. Binghamton huh, I was born there and grew up in Greene. Do you know where that is?
Owasco reply :
QuoteYou will like it for sure. Binghamton huh, I was born there and grew up in Greene. Do you know where that is?
Ofcourse I know where that is!
I travel between northeast Pa and Norwich NY all the time. I went to Windsor High School and my son is in middle school there now. He plays basketball against Greene this year.
Any good honey holes in Greene?
civicsurfer reply :
I have the bassraider 10E and I absolutely love it! I use it in the bays and lakes here in Southern California. Please post more customization ideas for this amazing little boat.
Dennis1022 reply :
I sold my pontoon for $650.00 with T/M, Depth finder and 2 padded seats. I went and bought me my dream canoe, Radisson 12' X 38" wide 34Lbs. came with 2 oars/paddles and motor mount amd 50' of anchor rope. On the bow,top deck of the canoe is a hole and it made for if I wanted to put in a MAST for sailing. I got all this for $600.00 + tax . I'll miss the pontoon a little but for getting into tight spots nothing like a canoe.
cBooms@SML reply :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HEIQrIlzCE
i saw this a few nights ago, and i realllllllly wanna find out how he rigged his boat so that you can troll rods on the side and such. it looks very very nice. his other videos have better glimpses of his little system
cBooms@SML reply :
any of you guys have any pics of rod holders? im thinkin of getting two driftmaster holders and putting one on each side towards the back of the boat. would i need any extra support?
and do any of you guys have an outboard for your boat? i just bout a 2003 merc. 3.3hp that im really excited to use as soon as i get back down to my baby
huskers24 reply :
How do these handle rough water?
cBooms@SML reply :
QuoteHow do these handle rough water?
very well. with me all the way in the back with the TM and battery, the top only bounces a little going over very large, close together wakes. it will just float on along anything else. very smooth
huskers24 reply :
I'm planning on putting it on a 4x8 utility trailer. How is the weight getting it on off that. They wright like 150lbs. Will be fishing by myself so this is starting to become a concern.
dman reply :
I have the 8e and it fits perfectly on a 4x8 utility trailer...thats what i use and i have no problem getting it on or off
cBooms@SML reply :
a 4x8 should be fine. i just have a PVC makeshift cart that is easy enough to use. the only problem i have is getting it on with just one person. its a lot easier with two people. but with a trailer it would be no problem with just one person
Midnight Splash reply :
QuoteI have also mounted a Humminbird PiranhMax 170 w/ the transducer to the right rear hull. Screwed in with stainless screws and 5 minute epoxy to help keep the wet stuff out.
I was planning on mounting my transducer on the same location this weekend on my raider 8. The guy at the marine store told me to use the 3M 4200 sealant. I bought that and put the boat in the garage to work on but now I'm having second thoughts about putting 3 screws through the transom. It just seems a little thin and I'm worried about it just stripping out. The transom will push in a little without much effort. Mine is a 2002 so I don't know how much they have changed them. Have you had any leaking problems so far? Also, I was wondering what ways you guys have run the transom wire under/over the side railing. I was wanting to put the fish finder up in the front and the transducer in the back. I have a separate small battery I can put up front to run the fish finder. My trolling motor is in the back.
Pond fisher reply :
Simply judging from the number of views this topic has received, do you think there is any interest in these little BASS BOATS.
Ken
BIG M reply :
I love mine and this is my second. I just throw in the back of my truck and off to the lakes. 45lb thrust trolling motor and this baby will move. Fishing two people is not the greatest from the 8ft boat.
cBooms@SML reply :
QuoteI love mine and this is my second. I just throw in the back of my truck and off to the lakes. 45lb thrust trolling motor and this baby will move. Fishing two people is not the greatest from the 8ft boat.
i feel that i agree. i fished with my dad and he is not the most experienced guy at all, and it was kind of cramped, but overall, easy enough to do. the only other downside is the outboard motor size. i wish i could get an 8 or a 7hp on mine i saw on a youtube video that some guy had his bass raider TYPE BOAT that had the sides as rod lockers. it was pretty cool. it wasn't a pelican, but it was essentially the same style
ww2farmer reply :
QuoteI love mine and this is my second. I just throw in the back of my truck and off to the lakes. 45lb thrust trolling motor and this baby will move. Fishing two people is not the greatest from the 8ft boat.
I agree. I have the 8E, I don't even consider it a 2 person boat. Then again I don't like having an extra person in my 17' Tracker either.......thats just me.
I saw a few posts back it was asked how they handle rough water. Pick your spots..........they float very high in the water and any wind/wave action will blow you all over. I once took a wave over the bow that filled the entire boat with water, other than getting my gear/feet wet, it wasn't too bad, stayed afloat and actually didn't push the boat down in the water too far where I was worried about sinking. But it wasn't fun either.
Midnight Splash reply :
I put my transducer on the back right pontoon on my 8(used 3m 4200). I have the trolling motor in the back. I put the fish finder up in the front/right. The fish finder will run off of the small hummingbird portable battery, while the trolling motor will run off a deep-cycle. I didn't want wires all over the floor of the boat so I ran them under the side railing with 1/4" nylon wire clips. The transducer wire was going to be too long for me since I didn't want any slack. Once I got the wire half way around the boat I just laid the wire along the railing all the way up to the fish finder mount. I had 5 more feet then I wanted so I doubled up the wire 30" and used 3/8" clips here to allow all three wires to fit inside one clip. I did make one change after I took these pictures. I adjusted where I brought the cable on top of the side railing in the front inside the U shaped indention. This way I wont bust the cable if the front of the boat hits something.
Midnight Splash reply :
A few more...
dman reply :
midnight splash, no leaks with that setup?
Here is the rudder i just got:
Red reply :
That rudder is very similar to mine, but I made mine out of scrap metal and about 10 minutes worth of welding at work. They are great, they make a world of difference especially on windy days.
Midnight Splash reply :
Dman I just put it in the water last night for the first time since mounting the transducer. Everything worked great. Mine will be in the water 24/7 on the pond behind my house. I will give it a week or so and check it for water and report back. One thing I really liked was the Hummingbird portable battery was smaller then I thought and it fits nicely in the top compartment right next to where I mounted the fish finder. The battery is maybe 6" L x 3" W x 4" H.
DeanFishesNY reply :
Anyone know where I can find a seat bracket for the bass raider 10e? I'm sure the 8e uses the same seats. The bracket part of the seat snapped last year. The seat part is perfectly fine, just the bottom part that goes into that slot is snapped in half. So I need to buy one of those or a whole new seat if I have to, but I don't know where and how much would it cost?
Red reply :
http://www.pelicansport.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=28_25&products_id=76&osCsid=mqum8v873b2bf75jp2so8v8c12
There ya go, freakin expensive. If you can weld or know someone who can, I bet it would be a whole lot cheaper to go buy your own tubing and build it yourself.
Midnight Splash reply :
This? If so go to the pelican paddle boat website(not pelican sport). Click on your boat/parts/highlight boat and click go to parts.
DeanFishesNY reply :
d**n, they are a lot more expensive than I thought. It's still 65 on that other website. Maybe I'll try to get it welded or whoever is tagging along has to sit on a bucket if they want to sit. I normally just stand anyways
Midnight Splash reply :
Hey Dean you might want to try sending these guys an email. They say there seat tracks/frames fit other models and to contact them for the info. I think it will work and they are $40. I'm sure they can verify by email or phone if they are compatible with the Raider. I cant post a link so just google "bass hunter boat seat tracks".
Ima Bass Ninja reply :
Quoted**n, they are a lot more expensive than I thought. It's still 65 on that other website. Maybe I'll try to get it welded or whoever is tagging along has to sit on a bucket if they want to sit. I normally just stand anyways
Yea i thought the aluminum was expensive too so i built my own here's some pics.
Midnight Splash reply :
I just pulled my boat out of the water to make a slight angle adjustment to the transducer. I checked it for water and not a drop has got in. The transom transducer mount has been submerged for six days. Looks like it will be good to go.
Pond fisher reply :
Is there $300.00 differnce between the Pelican 10' and the Pond Prowler 10'?
Ken
BRIAN77703 reply :
great boats guys ! need to post my pelican on here. i have the predator 12. strange theres not a website dedicated to plastic bass boats.
BRIAN77703 reply :
here she is, still gotta rig her up though, let me know what you think. later fellas
BRIAN77703 reply :
yea of course im going to put a trolling motor on her, but my main concern is all that white its blinding in the sun. how can i break up it. i tried gluing some carpet on it but it didnt stick.
Midnight Splash reply :
Get you one of these motors for the back Brian. He says in the comments he only has it quarter throttle. ;D
BRIAN77703 reply :
yea that would be nice, but an outboard is far down the road, right now its main focused is getting it lake ready and a trailer would be amazing.
BRIAN77703 reply :
lol and honestly i really dont think i even need to go that fast.
cBooms@SML reply :
Quotelol and honestly i really dont think i even need to go that fast.
well i dont think its as much as needing to go fast as much as wanting to
striper11 reply :
Is it a good boat for the money.
BRIAN77703 reply :
not bad man, its smooth, but for the money i would have gone a whole different route. gotten me a wide john boat with trailer and rigged it the way i wanted. this boat is great dont get me wrong, but no trailer, its pre molded so i have to rig around that. i dunno i think i could gotten something else that would of worked better for the money that ive spent and will put into this boat. but if you want a two man plastic boat, its hard to beat this one. im a huge dude and it feels safe as can be with me in the front.
Owasco reply :
I just bought the last 10e from my local ****'s the other day for $499. I can't wait to set mine up like most of you have done. What I have seen in some of those pictures is absolutely amazing.
JaxBasser reply :
Academy has the 8 footer on sale for $329 and i'm really thinking about pulling the trigger. I mostly fish small ponds and I mostly fish by myself. How stable are these things, I do not want to end up in the water.
How easy is it to load and unload one of these by yourself? Would I be able to get it on top of my car by myself?
bwell reply :
I have the 10e and I don't think I could put it on top of a car by myself. I can put it in the back of my truck but probably couldn't lift it over my head like that. If you are looking for something you can put on top of your car I would get a kayak...
JaxBasser reply :
On 4/4/2011 at 7:04 PM, bwell said:I have the 10e and I don't think I could put it on top of a car by myself. I can put it in the back of my truck but probably couldn't lift it over my head like that. If you are looking for something you can put on top of your car I would get a kayak...
I've tried fishing from a kayak, not a big fan.
I guess I'll keep looking on craigslist for something with a trailer.
Midnight Splash2 reply :
Jax I use my 8ft everyday in a small lake. I love it. If you are planning on fishing by yourself its perfect for ponds. If you are going to have another person with I would get the 10 footer. Its crowded and has a little wobbly feel to it with 2 people in the 8ft. I have friends come over and fish in it with me every once in a while and we manage but the 10 foot would be more accommodating for that. If you do buy one I highly recommend you buy an anchor. The 8ft will blow around like crazy with any winds over 10mph. I tie on a 8lb mushroom anchor to the seat bracket and drop it at every spot I fish. I'm usually fishing in 6ft of water and don't use more then 10ft of rope most of the time. The boat only weighs 87lbs so you wont need much anchor weight. I even anchor with no wind because if you hook a decent fish it can move the boat 10ft or so just from reeling it in. As for putting it on top of the car it can be done with one person. A truck would be ideal though. I would just wrap a moving blanket around the boat and tie something around the boat to hold the blanket on. You should have no trouble sliding it over the trunk and on top of the roof by yourself. If you got the 10 footer you can forget about trying to put that on top of your car. I think the 8ft could be done though.
JaxBasser reply :
On 4/8/2011 at 1:19 AM, Midnight Splash2 said:Jax I use my 8ft everyday in a small lake. I love it. If you are planning on fishing by yourself its perfect for ponds. If you are going to have another person with I would get the 10 footer. Its crowded and has a little wobbly feel to it with 2 people in the 8ft. I have friends come over and fish in it with me every once in a while and we manage but the 10 foot would be more accommodating for that. If you do buy one I highly recommend you buy an anchor. The 8ft will blow around like crazy with any winds over 10mph. I tie on a 8lb mushroom anchor to the seat bracket and drop it at every spot I fish. I'm usually fishing in 6ft of water and don't use more then 10ft of rope most of the time. The boat only weighs 87lbs so you wont need much anchor weight. I even anchor with no wind because if you hook a decent fish it can move the boat 10ft or so just from reeling it in. As for putting it on top of the car it can be done with one person. A truck would be ideal though. I would just wrap a moving blanket around the boat and tie something around the boat to hold the blanket on. You should have no trouble sliding it over the trunk and on top of the roof by yourself. If you got the 10 footer you can forget about trying to put that on top of your car. I think the 8ft could be done though.
Yeah I think I've ruled out the 8 footer. Everyone always says it's cramped for 2 people.
I'm going to look at this today. It's not a bass raider but it's a similar plastic boat.
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/boa/2268826471.html
Midnight Splash2 reply :
That looks like a great deal.
JaxBasser reply :
I got it for $450. I really like it, perfect for what I need it for.
Midnight Splash2 reply :
You robbed that guy. If you want to remove the paint and the camo is spray painted on you might want to try using Mötsenböcker’s Lift Off Spray Paint Graffiti Remover. I used this stuff last night on some red spray paint on my oil based painted garage floor that had been there for a year. I didn't want to use paint thinner because I didn't want to have to paint the floor again. I sprayed this stuff on and let it sit for 5 minutes and came back and wiped it right off with a towel. Amazing stuff and it only has a mild smell to it. You can get a gallon of it at Home Depot for $19. It will not damage your boat either.
JaxBasser reply :
On 4/11/2011 at 3:36 AM, Midnight Splash2 said:You robbed that guy. If you want to remove the paint and the camo is spray painted on you might want to try using Mötsenböcker’s Lift Off Spray Paint Graffiti Remover. I used this stuff last night on some red spray paint on my oil based painted garage floor that had been there for a year. I didn't want to use paint thinner because I didn't want to have to paint the floor again. I sprayed this stuff on and let it sit for 5 minutes and came back and wiped it right off with a towel. Amazing stuff and it only has a mild smell to it. You can get a gallon of it at Home Depot for $19. It will not damage your boat either.
I'll have to get me some of that. I shouldn't have much problem getting it off, it's a poor paint job and already starting to chip away pretty easily.
Gass reply :
Just wondering has any of guys ever thought of running twin troll motors on your bass raider.. I just saw these boat and thought about my bass raider 10e with twin trolling motors with foot pedals. Check out the websit and give me ideas I think I will try to rig something to work on my raider 10e.
www.twintrollerboats.com
Jim McC reply :
What's an average selling price/value of a used 8' Bass Raider, with the 2 original seats, these days? Thanks.
Midnight Splash2 reply :
I got mine for $175 
Jim McC reply :
On 4/15/2011 at 5:51 AM, Midnight Splash2 said:I got mine for $175
That can't be an average price though. You got a great deal on that.
Midnight Splash2 reply :
I think $250 is about what they should be selling for considering you can now get a new one at Academy for $400.
JaxBasser reply :
Between 200-$250 considering you can get one new for $400. They even run sales every now and then where you can get them new for $329.
jbird9009 reply :
guess i should post my old boat up .the first water craft i owned got it for free. horrible condition cracks all along the pontoons... so Lots and lots of fiberglass work on bottom but she floated good.. also got my hands on a free 54lb troller motor that came off the front of a large pontoon boat. (it was sitting in warehouse at my dads old work, boss said we could have it) got it rigged the best i could up front since it has a pedal.. had to do some customizing on the bracket so it would work on boat but it was sturdy and got that boat movin quick, free lowrance from warehouse aswell..
only had boat out on a few trips but it was fun. got low on money and sold it way to cheap... same story with my 2nd boat a 14ft jon boat that i restored, times is hard.. lost descent bit of money on that sell
before i rigged up a battery/tacke box behind seat
Tom H. reply :
I guess I can chime in here and say that I joined the little boat club. Picked up a 10 ft. bass hunter II (I know it's not the same) last night. Came with trolling motor, battery, fish finder, 2 seats, and oar. Been garage kept for it's intire life. All for $150.00. Can't wait to get this out.
JaxBasser reply :
Did you hold them up at gun point to get that price??? Nice.
cBooms@SML reply :
dang that is a nice little set up you have there jbird. nice rig
Tom H. reply :
On 4/18/2011 at 12:38 PM, JaxBasser said:Did you hold them up at gun point to get that price??? Nice.
Nah didn't hold them at gun point. Got it from an older couple whom aren't able to fish anymore and they wanted it out of their garage.
Jim McC reply :
Is it OK to store the Bass Raider vertically for 1-2 weeks? If so, would it be better to have it rest on it's side or one of the ends? Thanks.
bigdog321 reply :
Hey jbird9009, how many batteries do you use on your raider and how much time on the water do you get out of them. I have two batteries on mine and only get around 3.5 hours total out of the two, running a 55lb trolling motor and a fishfinder.Does that sound about right or do you think I might need new batteries?
jbird9009 reply :
On 5/3/2011 at 3:50 AM, bigdog321 said:Hey jbird9009, how many batteries do you use on your raider and how much time on the water do you get out of them. I have two batteries on mine and only get around 3.5 hours total out of the two, running a 55lb trolling motor and a fishfinder.Does that sound about right or do you think I might need new batteries?
3.5hours sounds descent using motor and fishfinder, the longest i ever had the lil boat out in water was maybe 3-4 hours at most.. and i had put my trucks battery in boat... needless to say when i got back to truck and put battery back in it wouldnt even turn over 
.. i rarely used the fish finder cause i just had no expereince with them.. and was a hassle to toy with. after a while i bought a dedicated battery for boat, just a cheap autozone battery and it did just fine. for a few hours, after a while of trollin around you could tell a difference in power/speed but it still got around fine on a single battery for me
Midnight Splash2 reply :
Hey BigDog
Get yourself one of these batteries to run your fish finder separate. This battery is so small it fits in the compartments on the top rail of the boat. I promise you it will keep your fish finder charged for WEEKS before you have to recharge it. You will also be able to get more time off your trolling motor without having the fish finder hooked to the same battery. This was a great buy for my Bass Raider.
http://store.humminbird.com/products/322329?product_id=1bc69a6425bfe786d569f9e9b9fef16e
bigdog321 reply :
On 5/3/2011 at 11:21 PM, Midnight Splash2 said:Hey BigDog
Get yourself one of these batteries to run your fish finder separate. This battery is so small it fits in the compartments on the top rail of the boat. I promise you it will keep your fish finder charged for WEEKS before you have to recharge it. You will also be able to get more time off your trolling motor without having the fish finder hooked to the same battery. This was a great buy for my Bass Raider.
http://store.humminbird.com/products/322329?product_id=1bc69a6425bfe786d569f9e9b9fef16e
THANKS ALOT FOR THE INFO. SOUNDS LIKE THE ANSWER TO MY PROBLEM.I'M DEFINITELY GONNA GET ONE AND TRY IT.
Midnight Splash2 reply :
I got mine off of Amazon for $30. Pick one up and report back when it needs to be recharged. I bet it wont be until July. Its an awesome purchase for this boat. I didn't know how small it was until I received it. It was an added bonus that it fit in the compartment.
http://www.amazon.com/Humminbird-7700281-Portable-Gel-Cell-Battery/dp/B000N314J0
Bass Meister reply :
Please explain the rudder idea suggested by several Raider owners on here? How does it work pertaining to windy days?
I really like this post about the Raider. The ideas/suggestions/website references/pics are very valuable. As one poster wrote: why isnt there a forum for the Raider? Love it. BassMeister
dman reply :
On 5/11/2011 at 4:13 AM, Bass Meister said:Please explain the rudder idea suggested by several Raider owners on here? How does it work pertaining to windy days?
I really like this post about the Raider. The ideas/suggestions/website references/pics are very valuable. As one poster wrote: why isnt there a forum for the Raider? Love it. BassMeister
The raiders are very light and the back end tends to spin the boat when you make turns....the rudder cuts this down substantially....It wont prevent you from getting blown by the wind
Jim McC reply :
What about guys like me that have the trolling motor on the back? Put a rudder on the front?
dman reply :
On 5/11/2011 at 6:33 AM, Jim McC said:What about guys like me that have the trolling motor on the back? Put a rudder on the front?
nah, i think that might make it very difficult to steer at all
Red reply :
I was reading a few previous posts about getting 3-4 hours on a battery charge. I don't know what kind/size battery y'all are using or how much time your spending trolling and at what speeds. I use the largest marine battery Walmart offers, I think Everstart is the brand. I have been out for an entire weekend, fishing for several hours each day, and barely drained half the charge. I am running a 30lb TM and a graph. A normal trip for me is 3-6 hours, I run the graph the entire time and usually have the motor going, I never anchor. A trip like this rarely uses more than 25% of a full charge. I also made my rudder, Couple pieces of 1 1/2 x 1 1/2 angle, 3/4 electrical conduit, 3/16 plate steel and about 5 minutes worth of welding. Then I sprayed it with galvanized spray paint. Get a rudder, it makes a world of difference!!
EricB reply :
On 5/11/2011 at 6:43 PM, Red said:I was reading a few previous posts about getting 3-4 hours on a battery charge. I don't know what kind/size battery y'all are using or how much time your spending trolling and at what speeds. I use the largest marine battery Walmart offers, I think Everstart is the brand. I have been out for an entire weekend, fishing for several hours each day, and barely drained half the charge. I am running a 30lb TM and a graph. A normal trip for me is 3-6 hours, I run the graph the entire time and usually have the motor going, I never anchor. A trip like this rarely uses more than 25% of a full charge. I also made my rudder, Couple pieces of 1 1/2 x 1 1/2 angle, 3/4 electrical conduit, 3/16 plate steel and about 5 minutes worth of welding. Then I sprayed it with galvanized spray paint. Get a rudder, it makes a world of difference!!
I agree I can get an entire weekend out of my battery, using a 55 lb thrust trolling motor.
Midnight Splash2 reply :
I use a 55lb Minn Kota Endura with a Optima Blue top battery on my 8ft Raider. My trolling motor is on the back and I go full speed at all times. I would say if I were to do nothing but cruise around at full speed my battery would be dead after 2 hours. I usually go out every evening and fish for about one hour and I charge the battery every three to four days. When I put it on the charger its almost dead every time.
Red & Eric
Are your motors on the front or back of the boat? Mounting the motor on the front will give you a longer battery charge. It is more efficient for the motor to pull the boat rather then push it. I put my motor on the front when I first got mine. I started spinning around and had a hell of a time controlling it. When I got back to my dock I put in on the back and its worked perfectly ever since. I don't have a rudder so I cant speak as for what they do. I will say I would never recommend trying to put the motor on the front unless you have a rudder to experiment with though. I just cant see how or why anyone would put one on the front without a rudder. The difference from the front and the back without a rudder is like night and day.
Red reply :
My motor is on the front, rudder on the back. The wind will still blow you across the lake, but you will be straight. The rudder completely controls the spinning. Mine just slips on the back, no clamps or anything. So if I turn really sharp at higher speed it will lift and fall off. I use a short piece of rope with a "D" cip clipped to the carry handle to prevent losing the rudder. I really love my little rig, especially how the gas prices are. The only problem is when loaded down with two grown men, anywhere from 6-9 rods, three boxes, cooler...it gets a bit crampped!
bigdog321 reply :
On 5/12/2011 at 9:43 AM, Red said:My motor is on the front, rudder on the back. The wind will still blow you across the lake, but you will be straight. The rudder completely controls the spinning. Mine just slips on the back, no clamps or anything. So if I turn really sharp at higher speed it will lift and fall off. I use a short piece of rope with a "D" cip clipped to the carry handle to prevent losing the rudder. I really love my little rig, especially how the gas prices are. The only problem is when loaded down with two grown men, anywhere from 6-9 rods, three boxes, cooler...it gets a bit crampped!
I just saw your post about the rudder slipping off at high speed and was wondering if you have the same problem with the motor. I'm having a hell of a time keeping my 55lb motor from slipping off when going at top speed. If you are having this problem what have you tried to stop it? I run the motor on the front. Do you think it would help to put it on the back?
Midnight Splash2 reply :
Big Dog
I never had a problem with my 55lb slipping off the back at any speed. When I take the kids out I even turn the motor to a 45 degree angle and spin in tight circles with no problem. Try it out. Did you get that trolling motor battery yet Big Dog?
Jim McC reply :
On 5/12/2011 at 10:21 AM, bigdog321 said:I just saw your post about the rudder slipping off at high speed and was wondering if you have the same problem with the motor. I'm having a hell of a time keeping my 55lb motor from slipping off when going at top speed. If you are having this problem what have you tried to stop it? I run the motor on the front. Do you think it would help to put it on the back?
I've never had that problem. Use those muscles and tighten her down.
Red reply :
On 5/12/2011 at 3:41 PM, Jim McC said:I've never had that problem. Use those muscles and tighten her down.
No problems with the motor for me. The only reason the rudder slips off it because it is not "fixed" to the boat. No clamps or bolts or anything. Just a bracket the fits over the rear motor mount area. So when I am turning at higher speed, the pressure applied to the rudder plate causes it to lift off the boat.
EricB reply :
I had mine mounted on the front, but moved it to the back. I'm working on a rudder for mine. Would a second trolling motor work as a rudder? I have an old 24lb thrust I don't use.
Eric
bigdog321 reply :
On 5/12/2011 at 10:29 AM, Midnight Splash2 said:Big Dog
I never had a problem with my 55lb slipping off the back at any speed. When I take the kids out I even turn the motor to a 45 degree angle and spin in tight circles with no problem. Try it out. Did you get that trolling motor battery yet Big Dog?
Haven't picked it up yet but am definitely going to get one. I'm putting together an order of fly tying materials from cabela's and gonna add the battery to that.
throwback reply :
This is one of the coolest threads around. I have a 10-ft Bass Hunter, which is a lot like the Bass Raider. Actually, mine is the Stalker II version seen here.
http://www.basshunter.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=0
All the ideas I've read from you guys are great! I have a bulkhead drain between the pontoons that is about 2-3". Would that be a good place for a transducer? Maybe I should get one of those rudders and mount the transducer to the rudder or the trolling motor.
Jim McC reply :
On 5/12/2011 at 9:43 AM, Red said:My motor is on the front, rudder on the back. The wind will still blow you across the lake, but you will be straight. The rudder completely controls the spinning. Mine just slips on the back, no clamps or anything. So if I turn really sharp at higher speed it will lift and fall off. I use a short piece of rope with a "D" cip clipped to the carry handle to prevent losing the rudder. I really love my little rig, especially how the gas prices are. The only problem is when loaded down with two grown men, anywhere from 6-9 rods, three boxes, cooler...it gets a bit crampped!
Do you have the 8' or 10'? I have the 8' and I would never even consider having a second person in it. There's just no room.
Red reply :
On 5/12/2011 at 8:47 PM, EricB said:I had mine mounted on the front, but moved it to the back. I'm working on a rudder for mine. Would a second trolling motor work as a rudder? I have an old 24lb thrust I don't use.
Eric
I saw a picture somewhere, might be in this thread. A guy took an old trolling motor and replaced the motor with a rudder plate. This way you can mount it like the motor and just tilt it up when not in use or whatever. I would be doing this option if I had an old junky motor to tear apart.
Red reply :
On 5/13/2011 at 9:12 AM, Jim McC said:Do you have the 8' or 10'? I have the 8' and I would never even consider having a second person in it. There's just no room.
I have the 8' Pelican. If you go through this thread you can see all the pics I posted of my rig. FYI....Having two men in the 8 fotter is not, in my opinion, a stability issue, it is just the lack of space. The boat still feels very stable. If you plan to fish with another person I recommend the 10', if you know your gonna be nby yourself the 8' is perfect.
EricB reply :
On 5/13/2011 at 6:44 PM, Red said:I saw a picture somewhere, might be in this thread. A guy took an old trolling motor and replaced the motor with a rudder plate. This way you can mount it like the motor and just tilt it up when not in use or whatever. I would be doing this option if I had an old junky motor to tear apart.
What I was thinking was leaving the trolling motor the way it is(it is a good working but small TM) and seeing if it would work as a rudder, plus I'd have a spare TM if the main one quits.
Thanks
Eric
Red reply :
You could give that a try, but I highly doubt it will be very effective. My rudder has a 1/8 inch thick steel plate that is 12x16 inches (I think, thats close anyway). It works awesome. Let me go take a pic then I will put it on here.
Red reply :
Here is a few different pics. Hope this helps someone out.
throwback reply :
On 5/17/2011 at 9:08 AM, Red said:Here is a few different pics. Hope this helps someone out.
Nice! Thanks!
EricB reply :
Thanks Red, I think I will come up with something to attach to the second TM.
Eric
Red reply :
Yeah I bet you could attach a plate of some sort to it. Then in the event that you need the spare motor you could just remove the plate and be on your way. Like I said, I welded mine together. I bet you could make one just like it if you had a few self tapping screws.
EricB reply :
I'm sure I'll come up with something the spinning around.
cBooms@SML reply :
any of you guys have an outboard on the back? would that be able to act as a rudder?
Red reply :
It might help some, I really think you need some sort of large flat surface for it to truly be effective.
throwback reply :
Ya'll know where to get a good cover for these boats?
Pond fisher reply :
On 5/23/2011 at 7:52 AM, throwback said:Ya'll know where to get a good cover for these boats?
Bass Pro has the covers in stock.
Ken
bigdog321 reply :
On 5/23/2011 at 7:52 AM, throwback said:Ya'll know where to get a good cover for these boats?
If you look at the one from bass pro you better read the comments. People are talking about them only lasting one year and they are correct ,I had the same problem.
cBooms@SML reply :
On 5/23/2011 at 7:52 AM, throwback said:Ya'll know where to get a good cover for these boats?
a tarp
throwback reply :
On 5/24/2011 at 2:56 AM, bigdog321 said:If you look at the one from bass pro you better read the comments. People are talking about them only lasting one year and they are correct ,I had the same problem.
That is what worries me. The reviews are bad on that cover at BPS and at other vendors that sell the same tarp.
throwback reply :
On 5/24/2011 at 4:23 AM, cBooms@SML said:a tarp
I want to leave it on the water and cover it, which is difficult to do with a tarp.
cBooms@SML reply :
found out something new with the pelicans. they dont do too well with large motors. the area around the metal transom plate began to bend when i put the motor at about half throttle and it was a merc 3.3hp. i went back to the dock and took everything but a life jacket out and tried it again and it was much better. i guess you cant have anything weighing down the front. has a decent size wake to it too when you get it goin. i should probably still do more tests with the motor and stuff before i come to a final consensus about whether or not gas outboards are good for these boats.
Midnight Splash2 reply :
I wouldn't recommend it on the 8 ft. My 55lb trolling motor seems to push it when I go straight to the highest gear.
twors reply :
Got a new 8 foot Bass Baby on order and wondering about how much trolling motor to buy. Minn Kota will be the brand and it will be something in the Traxxis lineup. I know from experience that I want variable speed but haven't came to a solid conclusion on wether I'd be overkill with a 55lb thrust motor or to save a hundred bucks and opt for the 45lb model. My main lake to fish is about 175 acres so I do have some water to cover.
Daniel Rodriguez reply :
Your not supposed to go straight to 5 because the torque of the prop will pull the motor right off the transom, that happens on my 40 lb minn kota as well. I would have no problem putting a 55lb on an 8ft Pelican..I have a 40lb on my 10 ft Bass Raider and it's very slow and i fish lakes that are 50 acres or less and it takes a while to get around those due to the low speeds..I may get a 2 hp honda 4 stroke at some point to address the problem..
cBooms@SML reply :
On 6/9/2011 at 4:28 PM, twors said:Got a new 8 foot Bass Baby on order and wondering about how much trolling motor to buy. Minn Kota will be the brand and it will be something in the Traxxis lineup. I know from experience that I want variable speed but haven't came to a solid conclusion on wether I'd be overkill with a 55lb thrust motor or to save a hundred bucks and opt for the 45lb model. My main lake to fish is about 175 acres so I do have some water to cover.
how about a motorguide bulldog? transom mounted and foot controlled.
omthezone reply :
Absolutely loving this thread. I have been considering one of those little plastic assassins for a while now. They look more comfortable than my yak has been. So how durable are these little bad boys? Do they have a lifespan?
throwback reply :
On 6/18/2011 at 2:33 PM, omthezone said:Absolutely loving this thread. I have been considering one of those little plastic assassins for a while now. They look more comfortable than my yak has been. So how durable are these little bad boys? Do they have a lifespan?
I'm the 3rd or 4th owner of the one I have. It must be over 10 years old. It is in great shape.
Red reply :
I fish an 8,000 acres lake with a 30lb minn kota, just sayin.
If your looking to cover water quickly I don't think this style boat is your best bet.
Owasco reply :
I'm curious as to what fish finders you all have on your raiders. I'm looking to get one for my 10 footer and I found a cheapo Lowrance x-51 at gander for $59.99. I am considering it but I am worried that the vertical pixels are too low at 160. Most of what I fish is anywhere from 5-20 feet of water but I do occasionally take it on a couple of deeper lakes at around 70 feet of water. I'm sure it would show detail fine up to 20' but I am worried about it @ 70'.
What do you all have?
ARH4AU reply :
I use a 597ci HD DI from my other boat. I bought an extra transducer & mounting bracket for far less than a decent entry level unit.On 6/21/2011 at 1:02 AM, Owasco said:I'm curious as to what fish finders you all have on your raiders. I'm looking to get one for my 10 footer and I found a cheapo Lowrance x-51 at gander for $59.99. I am considering it but I am worried that the vertical pixels are too low at 160. Most of what I fish is anywhere from 5-20 feet of water but I do occasionally take it on a couple of deeper lakes at around 70 feet of water. I'm sure it would show detail fine up to 20' but I am worried about it @ 70'.
What do you all have?
jaaron01 reply :
Wanting to get one of these little bass boats, but haven't been able to find anything here in Nebraska for less that an arm & leg. Did finally find a "Coleman Perch Pontoon Boat 8ft " at Dicks Sporting Goods for $499.00. Been through CG looking as well, but everything seems beat up pretty bad.
Anyone heard of this brand? Seems almost like all the others like "Buster Boats, Pelican, Bass Buggy, etc.etc. just about $200.00 less. Anyway enjoy looking at everyones modifications, and looking forward to posting some of my own.
omthezone reply :
On 6/20/2011 at 4:21 AM, Red said:I fish an 8,000 acres lake with a 30lb minn kota, just sayin.
If your looking to cover water quickly I don't think this style boat is your best bet.
How much surface area do you generally cover on this size of lake? What time duration do you spend covering said water? What areas do you generally stay in (coves, points, main channel)? Do you ever hit lake belton or stillhouse?
jaaron01 reply :
Looking at getting a trolling motor for the 8ft Coleman Perch Pontoon, looks just like a pelican 8ft. Cabela's has the Min Kota Endura c2 Trolling motor (34lb thrust ) for 109.00, or they have the M Kota T34 Thruster Trolling Motor for $89.99. Anyone have an opinion on these?
Daniel Rodriguez reply :
I have the Endura c2 40lb thrust motor...I paid $160 ish at Walmart...i think either of those two motors would push that boat surprisingly well...
Daniel Rodriguez reply :
If there is anybody looking to buy a rudder for these types of boat, there is a guy selling them on Ebay right now and he only has 3 left for sale...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BUSTER-BOAT-RUDDER-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3cb8923c81QQitemZ260794629249QQptZBoatQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQ5fGear
They are sold under the Buster Brand...I will report on mine when i get mine in as I just ordered one today...
jaaron01 reply :
On 6/22/2011 at 7:49 AM, Daniel Rodriguez said:I have the Endura c2 40lb thrust motor...I paid $160 ish at Walmart...i think either of those two motors would push that boat surprisingly well...
Got the Endura C2 34lb Thrust Motor, on sale for 109.00, plus my wife produced a $25.00 gift card I'd forgotten about from several years ago. Motor also came with a Battery Voltage checker, all told for $92.58 with tax.
jaaron01 reply :
On 6/22/2011 at 8:22 AM, Daniel Rodriguez said:If there is anybody looking to buy a rudder for these types of boat, there is a guy selling them on Ebay right now and he only has 3 left for sale...
http://cgi.ebay.com/...essoriesQ5fGear
They are sold under the Buster Brand...I will report on mine when i get mine in as I just ordered one today...
Being the true redneck that I am, I was thinking of getting an old trolling motor off Craigslist, for a couple of bucks, and just cutting the motor off, and having a piece of sheet metal bolted onto the shaft. That way it would clamp and be removeable all in one. Sound reasonable?? All you really need is the holder and the shaft.....
Red reply :
On 6/21/2011 at 1:25 PM, omthezone said:How much surface area do you generally cover on this size of lake? What time duration do you spend covering said water? What areas do you generally stay in (coves, points, main channel)? Do you ever hit lake belton or stillhouse?
I have never had my boat on Belton or Stillhouse. As for the water I cover, it depends. If it is dead calm I have no problem traveling up to 3/4 of a mile (only a guess, could be more or less) or so one way to hit a spot. When it is windy I fish the calm side of the lake. I rarely get more than a short distance from the bank, no further than I know I could swim. Genarally my trips range from 2-6 hours and I launch in an area I want to fish. Then I just thoroughly fish tht area. Here is an example of what one of my trip might consist of, the yellow line represents my travel.
Red reply :
On 6/22/2011 at 8:49 AM, jaaron01 said:Being the true redneck that I am, I was thinking of getting an old trolling motor off Craigslist, for a couple of bucks, and just cutting the motor off, and having a piece of sheet metal bolted onto the shaft. That way it would clamp and be removeable all in one. Sound reasonable?? All you really need is the holder and the shaft.....
That is exactly what I would do if I had a trailer. But I load on my truck, so I would have to take it off each time. My slip on rudder works better for my situation.
jaaron01 reply :
On 6/22/2011 at 11:05 AM, Red said:That is exactly what I would do if I had a trailer. But I load on my truck, so I would have to take it off each time. My slip on rudder works better for my situation.
Found and old trolling motor with a metal shaft and bracket for $20.00. I'll be hauling mine in the back of a Mini-Van till the wife gives in and I can get a new truck. I"m thinking if I engineer this correctly, I can leave the mount installed, and just slip the shaft / rudder in and out between loading and unloading. How big of a rudder do you have? 12 x 12, 8 x12? We've got a sign shop here on the AF base, and I'm thinking I might hit them up for a piece of scrap. Once I get her built I'll post a photo.
jaaron01 reply :
Got a piece of scrap sign material from the guys on base, and found and old trolling motor for $20.00. After a little surgery here's what I can up with. She'll tilt out of the water when needed and the shaft is easily removed.
dman reply :
Great job!
On 6/25/2011 at 5:13 AM, jaaron01 said:Got a piece of scrap sign material from the guys on base, and found and old trolling motor for $20.00. After a little surgery here's what I can up with. She'll tilt out of the water when needed and the shaft is easily removed.
jaaron01 reply :
Anyone want to offer an opinion between two different batteries. I"m looking at the EverStart brand at Wal-mart, either the 27DC-6 or the Maxx 29 Duel Purpose Marine Battery. One is $70.00 the other is $75.00.
jaaron01 reply :
One more question. Where's the best place (Cheapest) to get a 12 Volt 50 Amp Circuit breaker for the trolling motor?
Daniel Rodriguez reply :
I bought the 31 Maxx and it is a beast to carry., it has to weigh at least 50 lbs...However, I have never run out of power and i fish alot with two people and for 5-6 hours straight. using my 40lb thrust minn kota..no problems..I paid $85 for mine at Walmart..It's cheap insurance...I bought the minn kota breaker from amazon.com...cheapest price and fastest shipping..When this battery dies, i'm getting a blue top Optima..
Red reply :
I use the Everstart as well, going on three years with it now and has never let me down, I rarely burn more than 20-30% of a charge. I got my trolling motor breaker from the local Ranger (I think?) dealership.
Cliff
jaaron01 reply :
Got my boat and ready to roll. Still got some accessories to acquire but I've got the main stuff ready. Got the title and registration today, but the lady didn't give me my sticker. She only gave me the numbers. So back to the clerks office tuesday for that. I'll keep the registration with me tommorrow for the maiden fishing trip with hopes that will save me.
jaaron01 reply :
Took the boat out this morning for a trial run, and I Love it. No more fishing on the bank. Took the 6 year old, and while it was close quarters it diffinately wasn't uncomfortalbe with both of us. Did see a couple things I need to add, like a small plastic coffee can mounted to the front of the boat for the mooring ropes to be placed in. Also could use a couple of rod holders, but the boat was plenty stable. Wind picked up about 10 mph, and while it did move us around, the trolling motor was able to hold us good. Rudder is a god send as well. This little boat seems to have deeper side pockets molded in, as well as a larger front deck, as I put my thermos of coffee and coffee mug up on it, and nothing ever moved, even in Choppy water.
Trolled for about 2 hours, and only time I got to level "5" with the trolling motor was when we quickly headed across the lake to get out of the wind and into some shade. At 34lbs thrust it moved us along quickly. Battery only dropped to 12.8, after 2 hours of trolling the banks. I got the Everstart Maxx 29, which I placed in the rear to balance us out. I'm impressed with this little guy. 6 year old did catch a 3 lb channel cat, among other fish, on a bober and worm, and it pulled the boat some, but oh well. LOVE IT!!!
Jim McC reply :
Nice. Did you wind up buying a new boat?
jaaron01 reply :
Yeah I wound up buying a new one from Dicks for $499.00 plus 15% off, due to a small gouge in the very top of the boat. Used the 75.00 for a battery. Awesome.
jaaron01 reply :
Gotta find a couple of rod holders, and a few Drink holders for the boat. Had 2 large boats pass by me, producing fairly big wakes, and while I did do some rock'n an roll'n, no water came in the boat. First two days out me and the 6 year old caught bass, bluegill, catfish, and crappie. Decided today to go it alone, only caught a few bluegill. Shouldv'e taken the 6 year old leprichan with me for good luck.
B-ASSman reply :
On 6/26/2010 at 3:30 AM, Syppy said:O.K. Andy, told ya I'd have pics up when I got it all setup. It's now mostly setup, I'm just missing the rod holder, but it's made by the same guy who does the fish finder/transponder bracket.Good stuff.
Hey Guys-
What an amazing thread! Im sooo digging this boat and its mod- ability. Just picked up a 10ftr for 250$ - as a project for me and my two boyz (6 and 8).
First Im tackling the fish finder- and wanted to see if you bought that clamp rig from someone?
jaaron01 reply :
B-ASSman - Lets see a photo of your boat.
B-ASSman reply :
On 7/6/2011 at 8:49 PM, jaaron01 said:B-ASSman - Lets see a photo of your boat.
Hey J-
I'm waiting on some chairs I bought- then will post pics. Right now its just a plain ol 10E
jaaron01 reply :
On 7/7/2011 at 8:39 AM, B-ASSman said:Hey J-
I'm waiting on some chairs I bought- then will post pics. Right now its just a plain ol 10E
Same here, going to start looking for some padded / light weight seats. I know there out there, Cabela'a or Bass Pro one has them but they were like 39.00 bucks. A little more than I wanted to pay. Also need to get and anchor or drift sock for those windy days.
J
Jim McC reply :
On 7/7/2011 at 10:47 PM, jaaron01 said:Same here, going to start looking for some padded / light weight seats. I know there out there, Cabela'a or Bass Pro one has them but they were like 39.00 bucks. A little more than I wanted to pay. Also need to get and anchor or drift sock for those windy days.
J
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I replaced the original seat with a padded, swivel seat I bought ay Walmart. All I had to do was mount a pedestal base to the seat frame. MUCH more comfy.
jaaron01 reply :
Would like to see a picture of that if possible. Did it sit the seat up higher?
jaaron01 reply :
Has anyone used a drift sock with one of these? Curious as to what size they used and did it actually work worth anything? I know they say put a piece of a pool noodle on the top opening of the drift sock just to keep it close to the top and not snag on anything. Plus you can tell it's open and working i guess.
Jim McC reply :
On 7/8/2011 at 8:49 AM, jaaron01 said:Would like to see a picture of that if possible. Did it sit the seat up higher?
I don't know how to post a pic, but I'll see if my daughter can figure it out. Yes, it's a couple inches higher. What you do is remove the small U-bolts on the bottom of the Bass Raider's seats, and use them to mount the pedestal seat base to the seat frame. I also bought the pedestal seat base from Walmart. This allows me to use the same seat in my bigger boat and this one.
Owasco reply :
I'm thinking about putting a gas motor on my 10E Raider. I have an opportunity to buy a 6 hp johnson which is over 10 years old but basically brand new. Old neighbor bought it and never used it. He wants $600 for it with the tank and lines. Or I was planning on picking up a 2.5 hp motor brand new.
I'm a little worried that 6 hp might be too much power and weight and want to make sure the 2.5 hp will move me around at a nice clip.
Any of you have gas motors on your raiders?
On a side note, I would like to use the motor on my 16 foot glass tri-hull as a kicker as well. I think the 6 hp would be better for that.
B-ASSman reply :
On 2/15/2011 at 5:15 AM, Midnight Splash said:I put my transducer on the back right pontoon on my 8(used 3m 4200). I have the trolling motor in the back. I put the fish finder up in the front/right. The fish finder will run off of the small hummingbird portable battery, while the trolling motor will run off a deep-cycle. I didn't want wires all over the floor of the boat so I ran them under the side railing with 1/4" nylon wire clips. The transducer wire was going to be too long for me since I didn't want any slack. Once I got the wire half way around the boat I just laid the wire along the railing all the way up to the fish finder mount. I had 5 more feet then I wanted so I doubled up the wire 30" and used 3/8" clips here to allow all three wires to fit inside one clip. I did make one change after I took these pictures. I adjusted where I brought the cable on top of the side railing in the front inside the U shaped indention. This way I wont bust the cable if the front of the boat hits something.
Ive decided to adopt this as well. Any updates on performance or other issues you may have run into?
I am wondering how protected the transducer is at that level when moving the boat in and out of the water?
How do you protect it from damage?
Thanks
B-ASSman reply :
On 6/22/2011 at 11:01 AM, Red said:I have never had my boat on Belton or Stillhouse. As for the water I cover, it depends. If it is dead calm I have no problem traveling up to 3/4 of a mile (only a guess, could be more or less) or so one way to hit a spot. When it is windy I fish the calm side of the lake. I rarely get more than a short distance from the bank, no further than I know I could swim. Genarally my trips range from 2-6 hours and I launch in an area I want to fish. Then I just thoroughly fish tht area. Here is an example of what one of my trip might consist of, the yellow line represents my travel.
Hey Red-
Wonderin if one could opt to use a drift sock or anchor instead of a rudder-
Any experience with those ? I ask because I am plannin to back mount my trollin motor and a front rudder isnt so practical?
Anybody else have any input on this - it'd be much appreciated.
jaaron01 reply :
My advice is put the trolling motor up front, and find something to make a rudder for the back. Seems most trolling motors are better suited to pull, then push. Just my couple weeks experience, but seems at the lake those guys with the motor in the back are constantly fighting trying to keep the front end going were they want it to. I fish on a large electric only lake, so I see everything from canoe's to jon boats. I have no problem pointing my boat in whichever direction, with the rudder installed, she goes were I tell her to, expecially with a wind blowing, and the rear end follows.
I was thinking of a drift sock as well, but no one seems to have any experience with them, or at least there not sharing.
Red reply :
No experience with a drift sock. I have used an anchor. The mushroom kind did not hold at all with any kind of wind. The "grab" style grabbed too well and I had to cut the rope, twice with that style. Best bet, motor up front, batery in back, rudder in back. With this set up, I sit closer to the front, evens out the weight of the battery I think. Also, if your water levels are down, the fish aren't biting....head back into coves where people bank fish and big boats can't get to, look for shiney stuff in the cover and trees. I found $60 worth of hard baits in about a 30 foot stretch of bank the other day!!
Cliff
twors reply :
Finally got my new Bass Hunter "Bass Baby" finished up. I've had her out for three outing so far and everything seems good. This boat has deeper skinnier toons and I find it tracks very well without the need for a rudder. I've outfitter the boat with a 55lb Minn Kota traxxis trolling motor with variable speed. I truely love the variable speed and tilt handle also allows to fish standing with good control of the trolling motor without bending over....I'am 6'1" and 235lb. If forced to buy again I probably would buy the 45lb model and save a hundred bucks. The design of this hull is not ment for speed and I think there is a point of disminishing returns when it comes to appling power to these boats. That said....my boat tops out at 3.4 mph on my garmin hand held GPS. The battery is a group 27 marine jobbie from wallyworld and to connected to trolling motor with 8 AWG wire and anderson connectors. I have a big foot switch for the trolling motor but haven't installed yet as I wanted to get the placement just right. These boats are all about weight and balance. It took me two trips to dial in on seat post location before installing the pedestal base. The floor was covered in .5 ply and carpet. The pedestal base is two pieces of .75 ply glued together....short power rise post and butt seat. Battery box is screwed to ply floor....no holes drilled into plastic hull as of yet.
This boat has built in wheels to roll it around which is great however not so great trying to load into the truck by yourself as the boat wants to roll out before you can position yourself to lift the rear of the boat to slide into truck. I made a simple hook from a piece of stainless rod to hold the boat so I could reposition without having the boat slide out. I tried ramping the boat into the truck....no good, plastic wheels slide around the ramps. Takes far more energy than just dead lifting the thing in to the truck. I have plans for a trailer on down the road.
Here are some pictures of my new rig....
B-ASSman reply :
Here are some pictures of my new rig....
Very Sharp Looking! Nicely done
Funny- but I am fabricating a similar floor for mine- cept I was considering using the Ol' green indoor /outdoor turf instead of a marine carpet.
I like the pedestal look too....but i need a high back to stay comfy
How was it without the rudder-
If only I had any welding skills.....i hate to spend that kind of money on scrap metal
twors reply :
I don't think I need a rudder on this boat. The toons are narrower compared to the other boats I looked at and the toons ride deep in the water. She seems to track well. The boat does not like white caps.....water will slash over the front and you will get wet....trust me on this one!
My floor is .5 ply but I get add three 1X3 runners to the bottom to provide a air gap to help any moisture to evaporate.
jaaron01 reply :
Your boat must ride a little lower in the water than mine. I set a good foot above the water, and I've not had any thing come close to getting in the boat. Or your boat is much heavier than mine with the additional ply.
Another thing I see is the front of your pontoons seem more block shaped, as mine are V shaped. Might be why water comes over the front.
twors reply :
My boat does ride low in the water....certainly no foot. The ply floor, pedestal seat and carpet probably added 40lbs over the stock seating setup. I was kinda concerned about weight but doesn't seem that big of a deal as this boat is fished with just me alone. The front of the toons are more square than others and I'am sure it has something to do with water over the front and my lower than expected speed of 3.4mph even with the mother of all trolling motors. Water over the front was from a nasty little storm that I got caught in about 600 yards away from the ramp. The wind picked up very fast and white capped the lake in just a few minutes....I was traveling aganist the wind, waves where taller than the boat and I did take on a couple gallons of water before reaching the ramp. I never felt in danger really other than the lightning of course. I never intended to operate this boat in these conditions but it did happen and will probably happen again at some time. She is no 20ft Ranger for sure but I like her all the same....
jaaron01 reply :
I do like your setup with the carpet and seat, that looks awesome. Every trip I make out in my little boat, I come up with a new idea on the set-up. I'm just vetting ideas at this point to make sure its what I want, before I do much customization. Keep the photos com'in.
Red reply :
On 7/12/2011 at 4:21 AM, twors said:Finally got my new Bass Hunter "Bass Baby" finished up. I've had her out for three outing so far and everything seems good. This boat has deeper skinnier toons and I find it tracks very well without the need for a rudder. I've outfitter the boat with a 55lb Minn Kota traxxis trolling motor with variable speed. I truely love the variable speed and tilt handle also allows to fish standing with good control of the trolling motor without bending over....I'am 6'1" and 235lb. If forced to buy again I probably would buy the 45lb model and save a hundred bucks. The design of this hull is not ment for speed and I think there is a point of disminishing returns when it comes to appling power to these boats. That said....my boat tops out at 3.4 mph on my garmin hand held GPS. The battery is a group 27 marine jobbie from wallyworld and to connected to trolling motor with 8 AWG wire and anderson connectors. I have a big foot switch for the trolling motor but haven't installed yet as I wanted to get the placement just right. These boats are all about weight and balance. It took me two trips to dial in on seat post location before installing the pedestal base. The floor was covered in .5 ply and carpet. The pedestal base is two pieces of .75 ply glued together....short power rise post and butt seat. Battery box is screwed to ply floor....no holes drilled into plastic hull as of yet.
This boat has built in wheels to roll it around which is great however not so great trying to load into the truck by yourself as the boat wants to roll out before you can position yourself to lift the rear of the boat to slide into truck. I made a simple hook from a piece of stainless rod to hold the boat so I could reposition without having the boat slide out. I tried ramping the boat into the truck....no good, plastic wheels slide around the ramps. Takes far more energy than just dead lifting the thing in to the truck. I have plans for a trailer on down the road.
Here are some pictures of my new rig....
Very nice job!! I have considered adding a pedestal seat like you did. I am pretty happy with my rig as it is though so I haven't put much thought into it. I got caught in a storm once like you did. I had enough water in the boat I had to empty it and flip it. I couldn't lift it onto the truck....too heavy!
B-ASSman reply :
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This boat has built in wheels to roll it around which is great however not so great trying to load into the truck by yourself as the boat wants to roll out before you can position yourself to lift the rear of the boat to slide into truck. I made a simple hook from a piece of stainless rod to hold the boat so I could reposition without having the boat slide out. I tried ramping the boat into the truck....no good, plastic wheels slide around the ramps.
Regarding loading into the pickup
I am making 2 - 7ft long 4x8's wrapped with carpet to assist ramping/sliding my rig into the bed
if u used them on edge it might prop high enough to eliminate the wheel problem u have
Mikeandwife91 reply :
Hi guys, Mike here. I got the wife a 10ft. Pelican for Christmas (honest, that's what she wanted). I wanted to tell everyone about a tool out there that makes adding things to your boat a piece of cake. It is called a Rivnut Tool. It installs a threaded insert into the plastic (or metal) just like you were putting a pop rivet in there, except you can screw a bolt into it. You place a Rivnut in the tool and put it into a hole drilled the same size as the nut. You then squeeze the handle together like a rivet gun and it compresses the nut so that it sandwiches the plastic between the Rivnut. It cannot spin either. I have put a few things in such as an oar holder and rod holders without any screws going into just plastic. You can put a nut in as small as an 8-32 or as big as a 1/4". I use 10-24 and 1/4" for most of my stuff. I got mine at Mcmaster Carr, but Grainger carries them. Here in Ohio, I have seen them at Menards for about 15 bucks and that gives you a small amount of Rivnuts. Once you have one of those guns, you will find yourself using them all over the place. Hope this helps a few of you. Great pics on the post also. It gave me a few ideas on some more improvements on my wife's boat. Have a great time on the lake.
BassinNCstyle reply :
Is it true bass raider has no handles? Does this not make it harder to carry?
dman reply :
On 7/16/2011 at 8:29 PM, BassinNCstyle said:Is it true bass raider has no handles? Does this not make it harder to carry?
not true, i have the 8E model and it has 2 handles on each side. I believe the handles on the 10 footer are on the ends and not the sides but i could be wrong on that.
Red reply :
My Raider 8 only has two handles, one on each side, one front one back. It also has molded in the plastic "handles" on each end.
Anyone got any good rod storage ideas? I would love to bring all 8 of my rigs when I go, but just can't carry them. I can bring four comfortably, five is pushin it.
Jim McC reply :
On 7/17/2011 at 5:02 AM, Red said:My Raider 8 only has two handles, one on each side, one front one back. It also has molded in the plastic "handles" on each end.
Anyone got any good rod storage ideas? I would love to bring all 8 of my rigs when I go, but just can't carry them. I can bring four comfortably, five is pushin it.
8 rods? I don't even own 8 rods. I use a plastic milk carton with 1.25" PVC pipe for the rod holders. I have one in each corner of the crate, and secure them to the carton with plastic zip ties. You could probably fit a couple more, but with 8, the reels would probably be smacking each other.
Red reply :
Yeah I have seen the milk crate idea. My problem is that I get right up in the trash alot and can't really have rods sticking up high and stuff. What I should have said is horizontal rod storage. LOL, like I really need eight rods in the boat. I just hate leaving them on the rack!
Cliff
cBooms@SML reply :
On 7/9/2011 at 2:49 AM, Owasco said:I'm thinking about putting a gas motor on my 10E Raider. I have an opportunity to buy a 6 hp johnson which is over 10 years old but basically brand new. Old neighbor bought it and never used it. He wants $600 for it with the tank and lines. Or I was planning on picking up a 2.5 hp motor brand new.
I'm a little worried that 6 hp might be too much power and weight and want to make sure the 2.5 hp will move me around at a nice clip.
Any of you have gas motors on your raiders?
On a side note, I would like to use the motor on my 16 foot glass tri-hull as a kicker as well. I think the 6 hp would be better for that.
2.5 hp for the small boat. i have a 3.3 and its too much power for the boat, even though its rated for a 3.5
Midnight Splash2 reply :
<brOn 7/18/2011 at 9:49 PM, cBooms@SML said:<br />2.5 hp for the small boat. i have a 3.3 and its too much power for the boat, even though its rated for a 3.5<br />
Post up a video of that 3.3 with full throttle!
B-ASSman reply :
On 7/17/2011 at 10:31 AM, Red said:Yeah I have seen the milk crate idea. My problem is that I get right up in the trash alot and can't really have rods sticking up high and stuff. What I should have said is horizontal rod storage. LOL, like I really need eight rods in the boat. I just hate leaving them on the rack!
Cliff
What do ya think of these? They hold from ceiling typically so they should work flat. 1 per side = 8 total rod capacity
http://www.basspro.com/Berkley-Twist-Lock-Horizontal-Rod-Rack/product/15992/-261276
berkeley even makes a 6 rod version if u wanna keep it only to one side and max out number
B-ASSman reply :
d**n sorry that pic came out like gibberish
B-ASSman reply :
On 7/17/2011 at 10:31 AM, Red said:Yeah I have seen the milk crate idea. My problem is that I get right up in the trash alot and can't really have rods sticking up high and stuff. What I should have said is horizontal rod storage. LOL, like I really need eight rods in the boat. I just hate leaving them on the rack!
Cliff
or these...
http://www.basspro.com/Rod-Rack-N-Go-Rod-Storage-and-Carry-System/product/55181/-1031942?cmCat=CROSSSELL_PRODUCT
Red reply :
On 7/21/2011 at 4:05 AM, B-ASSman said:or these...
http://www.basspro.com/Rod-Rack-N-Go-Rod-Storage-and-Carry-System/product/55181/-1031942?cmCat=CROSSSELL_PRODUCT
Now I think I could make those work! I am assuming the price is for two of them?
B-ASSman reply :
OK- Ive pretty much borrowed a lot of ideas from nearly every post and modified my 10E into one fine vessel. One thing I am NOT so happy with is the boat dolly - for at 135$ is nearly a waste of my hard earned mullah. I find I can just back up my pick up truck and launch this sucker easily into the water on 2 4x4's Ive rigged into a ramp.
My problem is getting that sucker back into the truck with out killing myself - which the boat dolly doesnt help a bit with.
Mind you at 38 I still bench 250# easlily - YET reloading this boat out of the water into my truck is an awkward biatch and I just know Im gonna through my back out.
I am thinking about winching it up into the bed a bit then I could push it easily into the bed- any body have any tricks they use to get it in the truck bed easier?
B-ASSman reply :
On 7/12/2011 at 4:21 AM, twors said:This boat has built in wheels to roll it around which is great however not so great trying to load into the truck by yourself as the boat wants to roll out before you can position yourself to lift the rear of the boat to slide into truck. I made a simple hook from a piece of stainless rod to hold the boat so I could reposition without having the boat slide out. I tried ramping the boat into the truck....no good, plastic wheels slide around the ramps. Takes far more energy than just dead lifting the thing in to the truck. I have plans for a trailer on down the road.
What about a winch? If you do go the trailer route- can you drive one at 55mph on the high way?
Scotter reply :
Hi. Thanks to all who contributed to this thread. It really helped me choose which way to go. I'm a newie on here but have been following this thread concerning the small pontoon boats, such as the Pelican 8. I was torn between a 10' Alumacraft 1036 jon boat and the Pelican 8 until Academy ran the Pelican 8 on closeout sale this week for $299.99. That price got me to start really researching these little boats so I went over to one of the older Academy's locally that only had outside storage for their boats and the only one that they had left was left out in the rain and freezing weather for what looked like years. I went to one of the newer locations hoping for better and they had inside storage with two brand new units. I picked the best one and loaded it up. I figured for just under $300, I couldn't go wrong when you condsider that Dick's has the same boat for $599. I stepped up on the seats, due to an occassional bad back, and installed a couple of Cabelas high back camo padded seats @ $59 each that only weighed in at 8 pounds per seat. I used the existing swivels that came with the plastic seats and it worked out great. I had already bought a 40 lb Minn Kota that was on sale last week for $149 @ Academy that I hope will push it along at respectable speeds. So far about the only thing I can see that may need to be modified is the flooring. You guys were right about the floor being kind of spongey and in need of support. I can hardly wait until I get the chance to get it out on its maiden voyage this week.
Jim McC reply :
That's a great price. Enjoy.
dman reply :
wow, what a great deal Scotter ! The 40lb should be plenty - i use a 36lb motor and it moves great, hope you enjoy, now you just need the rudder
Red reply :
Good stuff. A rudder is a must, I believe I have posted about how I made mine on here, if not shoot me a PM and I will hook you up. I think I posted about my floor too.
Good Luck
Cliff
cBooms@SML reply :
On 7/18/2011 at 10:25 PM, Midnight Splash2 said:<br
Post up a video of that 3.3 with full throttle!
here ya go! this was the last time i ran the outboard on the boat. also, this is half power i think, only because for some reason, it wouldnt go to full power. im glad it didnt though because at half throttle it was bending the transom. because of this, im selling my boat. i need something that can at least handle a 3.3. also, i would like more room
http://www.youtube.com/user/AllForHimMyGOD09?blend=3&ob=5
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
What's everyone use as an alternative/emergency propulsion? I'm carying a canoe paddle but that's far from ideal. I'm thinking about adding oar locks and some collapsible oars.
Midnight Splash2 reply :
Anchor rope tied to one ankle using the hands and feet as emergency propulsion.
Red reply :
On 10/14/2011 at 3:04 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:What's everyone use as an alternative/emergency propulsion? I'm carying a canoe paddle but that's far from ideal. I'm thinking about adding oar locks and some collapsible oars.
I always have one of those telescoping paddles in the boat with me. I have never used it, but in the event I do have a problem it is there to get me back to the ramp.
dman reply :
On 10/18/2011 at 8:23 AM, Red said:I always have one of those telescoping paddles in the boat with me. I have never used it, but in the event I do have a problem it is there to get me back to the ramp.
X2 with the telescoping paddle
Red reply :
Can't remember if this has been covered in this thread and I am not going to go back and read it all. How many of you stand in your Pelican while fishing? How many of you think it sucks having to bend over a bit to steer? What have you done to fix this problem? I made an extension handle for my motor a couple years ago, but it just wasn't very good, and a pain to remove if I needed to (when two people are fishing). Well I designed a new one this week. I haven't tried it yet but it is the perfect height, much less material was used to make it, and only requires removing one bolt to take it off. Here is a pic, let me know what you think.
It is made from a single piece of 1/2 inch electrical conduit. A few precision bends a little rubber tape and a bit of welding. I will let you know how it works out when I get on the water with it.
Thanks
Cliff
Tom Hollyday reply :
I posted yesterday in a new topic about customizing a pelican '12 gator. But this thread seems pretty great, I do have one question, i have a FJ cruiser, and was looking to take my 12' gator and put it on top since i dont have a trailer....has anyone had any problems with that?
Red reply :
I bet it would be fine. As long as you can man handle that thing up there and strap it down good, I bet it works.
Tom Hollyday reply :
I hope so! I will find out tmw, I do a lot of solo fishing, so I was always told the kayak/canoe was the way to go, but I love the space I will have in this thing, plus the comfy seats. I know i should spring for a trailer, but the attachment is so expensive
Red reply :
On 10/20/2011 at 7:00 AM, Red said:Can't remember if this has been covered in this thread and I am not going to go back and read it all.
It is made from a single piece of 1/2 inch electrical conduit. A few precision
Thanks
Cliff
This handle works perfect! If y'all are looking for a cheap easy way to make an extension handle for your TM, this is it.
Cliff
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 10/21/2011 at 1:29 PM, Tom Hollyday said:I hope so! I will find out tmw, I do a lot of solo fishing, so I was always told the kayak/canoe was the way to go, but I love the space I will have in this thing, plus the comfy seats. I know i should spring for a trailer, but the attachment is so expensive
I ordered a hitch & wire harness here: http://www.etrailer.com/?gclid=CM-n0eOwgawCFW0CQAodu3hfKA and installed it myself (easy). Cost a fraction of what a local place wanted to install one.
Tom Hollyday reply :
Whats the deal with winter storage for these guys? Can the plastic crack if its below freezing? Also, I've been keeping my 12 ft gator on top of my car for now, and iv noticed that one of my roof racks makes it kinda of press upward in the middle of the boat, so its almost like a bubble, that wont break the hull will it? Also, rainwise, should I cover the top to protect the wires? Thanks! New to this stuff
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Red reply :
On 10/27/2011 at 12:24 AM, Tom Hollyday said:Whats the deal with winter storage for these guys? Can the plastic crack if its below freezing? Also, I've been keeping my 12 ft gator on top of my car for now, and iv noticed that one of my roof racks makes it kinda of press upward in the middle of the boat, so its almost like a bubble, that wont break the hull will it? Also, rainwise, should I cover the top to protect the wires? Thanks! New to this stuff
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About the wires, mine have been submerged for hours when it rains and I am at work. I used shrink tubing, electrical tape, liquid electrical tape, then some rubber tape over all the connections. Haven't had any issues. Can't coment on winter storage as I am in Texas.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Mine is stored upside down, elevated off the ground and I sweep it off after a snowfall. No problems after 3 winters.
Bill Porter reply :
Just got a sweet deal on a Bass Raider 10E!!!!! I wanted one of these for a while for the waters I can't take my G3 on.... I will post pics of her soon, love all the ideas you guys have posted!!
Bill Porter reply :
Couple questions about the little BASS BEAST! Does anyone have carpet on the floor of thier bass raider? If so where did you get it, what is the best options and dimensions? Also trolling motor options??? Was thinking about a Minn Kota Endura C2 30-lb. Thrust but like the 40 lb.... does 10lbs make that much different in such a small vessell? Also is a battery box a good thing to use or just a waste of money?
bwell reply :
I have a 36lb thrust and it moves the boat nicely, I am sure a 30 will work just fine.
You might want to check your DNR website, in IL you have to have your battery in a battery box.
Bill Porter reply :
Here is my Bass Raider 10E!!!
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/gallery/image/1402-bass-raider-10e/
Midnight Splash2 reply :
On 11/16/2011 at 2:03 PM, Bill Porter said:Couple questions about the little BASS BEAST! Does anyone have carpet on the floor of thier bass raider? If so where did you get it, what is the best options and dimensions? Also trolling motor options??? Was thinking about a Minn Kota Endura C2 30-lb. Thrust but like the 40 lb.... does 10lbs make that much different in such a small vessell? Also is a battery box a good thing to use or just a waste of money?
I have had a 30lb, 40lb, & 55lb Endura on mine so far. The 30lb was too slow for me. There is a nice jump in speed from the 30 to the 40. Not so much of a difference in speed between the 40 & 55. I would get something in the 40-50lb range.
Bill Porter reply :
On 11/21/2011 at 11:03 PM, Midnight Splash2 said:I have had a 30lb, 40lb, & 55lb Endura on mine so far. The 30lb was too slow for me. There is a nice jump in speed from the 30 to the 40. Not so much of a difference in speed between the 40 & 55. I would get something in the 40-50lb range.
THANKS!!! Just what I was looking for! I am going for the Minn Kota 40!
dwaynesworld reply :
Great thread guys, I joined this forum just for this thread. How about anchors? I really like setup this guy has.
mtdoramike reply :
I just joined this site as well due to this thread. I had been wanting one of the Pelican Bass Raider boats for the last 30 years, ever since I saw them in the Bass Pro Shop catalog. But at that time they weren't common in my area of central Florida and if I wanted one, I would have to order it and pay out the you know what on frieght charges. So I had to settle for Jon boats, which I like as well. But since I retired, I have gotten the bug again about wanting one of these two man plastic boats.
Again, all the places the sell them in my area Like Dick's Sporting goods, Bass pro Shops, Sports Authority, Sports Unlimited either don't have any and require special order or stopped carrying them. Bass Pro started carrying the Pond Prowler line by Uncle Buck's. But they never appealed to me like the Raider. So I thought I was SOL, But thank goodness for Craigslist. I found a fellow selling a mint Raider, with everything from 55 pound thrust motor to Life vests. So I snapped it up.
I haven't gotten out on the lake with it yet because the day I picked it up, I came down with a cold and have been nursing it for the past 3-4 days.
dwaynesworld reply :
anybody, done anything new to there boats? Would love to see pics. I am back and forth between a pelican or small jon. I think this type of boat will work great, for the type of fishing I do.
mtdoramike reply :
On 1/21/2012 at 12:11 AM, dwaynesworld said:anybody, done anything new to there boats? Would love to see pics. I am back and forth between a pelican or small jon. I think this type of boat will work great, for the type of fishing I do.
I wanted one of these boats 30 years ago, but I couldn't find a place that sold them in or around my area. So I had to settle for a Jon boat. I really enjoyed the Jon boat, but I just couldn't forget about these little boats. So after 30 years, I still couldn't find anywhere around my area that sold them. So I lucked up and found a used one in great condition and bought it.
Now, to me, there isn't that much of a difference between the two except for weight. A 10 foot Jon boat weighs about 100 pounds unloaded where one of these weighs about 150 pounds unloaded. Plus there is a bit more drag due to the pontoon shaped hull over the Jon boat. Also, patching an aluminum Jon boat is a bit easier if needed. I have used Black Jack Tar pitch to patch a small leak. With this RamX material, there's not much that will stick to it.
You might also consider The Pelican Basstender, it's shaped more like a little boat. But everyone that I know of that owns one loves them. I don't think you can go wrong with either my self.
mtdoramike reply :
I'm in the process of trying to find someone in my area who is wanting a 55lb thrust with a 42" shaft. It's just too blasted heavy and overkill for my Bass Raider. I'm costantly worried that the motor is going to snag something with a shaft that long if I drop it down a ways. But if not then I'm riding around with my arm up in the air steering the motor.
I think a 30-40 pound thrust motor with a 30 inch minimum to a 36 inch maximum shaft would be perfect for this boat. Plus the 55 weighs better than 25 pounds and after a few trips to the lake that motor gets awfully heavy for me to keep taking on and off the boat.
mtdoramike reply :
Here's a picture of my Bass Raider setting at the beach where I rented a spot to keep it so I don't have to keep loading and unloading it from my truck. It's on a beautiful spring fed lake.
TeamMonroe reply :
Would love to see photos of everyones rigs. Almost finished with setting mine up, waiting on the outboard before posting pics. I have a Raider 10E, with tm, ff, lights, rod holders, and a few other little mods, and working on getting the trailer set up right also.
dwaynesworld reply :
TeamMonroe, We would love to see pics of your rig, go ahead and post some pics.
ronowens reply :
On 2/15/2011 at 11:42 AM, dman said:midnight splash, no leaks with that setup?
Here is the rudder i just got:
Did you have it made or buy it somewhere? I am looking for one for my 10e. ThanksOn 2/15/2011 at 11:42 AM, dman said:midnight splash, no leaks with that setup?
Here is the rudder i just got:
SmokeRise1 reply :
On 1/21/2012 at 12:59 AM, mtdoramike said:I wanted one of these boats 30 years ago, but I couldn't find a place that sold them in or around my area. So I had to settle for a Jon boat. I really enjoyed the Jon boat, but I just couldn't forget about these little boats. So after 30 years, I still couldn't find anywhere around my area that sold them. So I lucked up and found a used one in great condition and bought it.
Now, to me, there isn't that much of a difference between the two except for weight. A 10 foot Jon boat weighs about 100 pounds unloaded where one of these weighs about 150 pounds unloaded. Plus there is a bit more drag due to the pontoon shaped hull over the Jon boat. Also, patching an aluminum Jon boat is a bit easier if needed. I have used Black Jack Tar pitch to patch a small leak. With this RamX material, there's not much that will stick to it.
You might also consider The Pelican Basstender, it's shaped more like a little boat. But everyone that I know of that owns one loves them. I don't think you can go wrong with either my self.
Basstenders are not made by Pelican. They were made by Waterquest but were discontinued a few years ago. I have the 11.3 model which is great to fish out of either alone or with another person. They are pretty heavy so they are hard to load and unload from a truck, but this extra weight makes them very stable and will keep you from blowing all over the lake when it gets windy.
mtdoramike reply :
On 2/14/2012 at 11:56 PM, SmokeRise1 said:Basstenders are not made by Pelican. They were made by Waterquest but were discontinued a few years ago. I have the 11.3 model which is great to fish out of either alone or with another person. They are pretty heavy so they are hard to load and unload from a truck, but this extra weight makes them very stable and will keep you from blowing all over the lake when it gets windy.
You are correct, I was thinking of the Pelican Predator, which is the same as the Basstender.
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1757755
KansasBassin reply :
I just traded up my Pelican for a BassTender, got it at the end of the fall so only got to use it once last year but really liked it. As you can see it is on a trailer, which is great, because I was getting tired of pulling my pelican in and out of my truck. Got it, two trolling motors, and the aluminum trailer for 800, pretty good deal I thought, it is the 12.5 model.
dwaynesworld reply :
nice boat and great price. what minn kota is that on rear?
jaaron01 reply :
Someone was asking earlier the best way to store there boat over the winter. I carried mine down in the basement for the season. Also I can work on it down there in the warmth. Did upgrade my seats to the padded Wal-mart seats they sell. Also still trying to get everything situated the way I want it.
Still trying to figure out a rod holder of some type but not much luck yet. Everything is either to big or wont fit. I'll post some photos' later today when I get my camera up and running. Was wondering if anyone had used one of those Huminbird Fish'n buddies? I was looking at the 120 model, but couldn't decide if it was worth it, or just get the 110 version.
clay62 reply :
I'm new here and have been following this topic for about a month now. I too have a Bass Raider 10E boat that I bought about two years ago. I had another small pontoon boat, a Bass Hunter, and I used it for several years. I like the inexpensive pleasure of using my small boat on small lakes and ponds. I'm still trying to make a decision about what new trolling motor ™ I want, as well as a fish finder (FF). I'm about to make the decision to purchase a Motorguide bulldog series TM (40 lb. thrust) and mount it on the front transom. It's a foot controlled motor that mounts on either end of the boat (transom / bow mount). I appreciate the input about the 'rudder' ideas and will be building one of those as well. I am within a few weeks of ordering tne FF and TM. I think I will go with the humminbird 570 DI portable unit and try to figure out where I will mount the suction cup transducer. I currently have one of the first 'fishing buddy' portable FF that was originally made by Bottomline. It has served me well, and still shows depth and water temp., and the side finder has been a great help over the years. I had almost bought the 140 color series of the fishing buddy recently, but have decided I want the Down Imaging (DI) unit to study some small lakes that I fish in. I will also mount the old Bottomline portable unit to have the advantage of the sidefinder (it still works..). I bought a utility trailer to haul my boat on and have a removable rack that I bolt down with carriage bolts and wing nuts. I cut some small square holes in the bed of the trailer to allow the ramp / gate to fold flat and install the rack when in use for boat transport. I also fashioned an area in front of the trailer to carry my TM battery, and it fits nicely betweeh the pontoons during transit. I will try to post some pictures of my current set-up, and follow up with my upcoming mods. Thanks everyone for the great ideas, and I will try to contribute as well...
Tego reply :
I am going to buy one of these (Bass Raider e) from Dicks within the next week or two. I posted in another thread that Dicks no longer offered the 10e but it's now back on their site at $599 which I doubt will be beaten.
I plan on keeping it strapped to the wall in my garage over the winter. Winter here can often get to -25 to -30 F. Is this too cold for it? I've kept my Old Town canoe in the same conditions with no problems. I understand that few people on here live in this cold climate.
jaaron01 reply :
Anyone on here located in the Omaha, NE area? Just curious.
c w reply :
This is how i mounted my depth finder for $6.00
I went to Lowes and bought a pipe repair clamp and a flat piece of metal stud plate. Drilled a hole for the clamp bolt to go through and drilled holes for the depth finder mount. Total cost $6.00 The other clamps in the plastic are for mounting the transducer to the trolling motor. They cost $2 at wal-mart.
Link to the repair clamp: Link to pipe repair clamp at Lowes
Link to the metal stud plate: Link to metal stud plate at Lowes
jaaron01 reply :
So I decided to get myself a little utility trailer for my boat. Wednesday I'll order a Hitch for the Van, and I've got a fellow whose got a 4x7 utility trailer and wants $200.00 for it. We'll see how it all works out. Should save the old back some, and the trailer is small enough to stand up against the wall in the garage in the winter times.
TeamMonroe reply :
This is how I mounted rod holder.
TeamMonroe reply :
This is my depth finder mount.
TeamMonroe reply :
Tego reply :
I'd like to see an ancor mounted on one of these. I find it hard to fish without one. Thanks.
TeamMonroe reply :
I have an anchor mounted to the front transom beside my tm that I fasten my anchor to. Also use the c_clamp for the winch strap.
Tego reply :
What did you mount it with? I was thinking of using galvanized sheet metal screws. Would screws hold nicely in the plastic?On 3/13/2012 at 10:25 PM, TeamMonroe said:I have an anchor mounted to the front transom beside my tm that I fasten my anchor to. Also use the c_clamp for the winch strap.
TeamMonroe reply :
Like this, very simple same thing on rear transom beside the motor.
Bill Porter reply :
On 3/14/2012 at 1:27 AM, TeamMonroe said:Like this, very simple same thing on rear transom beside the motor.
Hell yes!!! Great idea!!!
TeamMonroe reply :
A neighbor and myself are modding a trailer to fit the pelican now, how about some pics of the trailers you all use to haul your boats.....
Tego reply :
I finally got one yesterday! Bass Raider 10e Brand new for $429.00 at Dicks which I thought was a great deal. It was one they had from last year and it said "Save $170.00" which I did. 
Now to get it rigged and ready for the water!
Tego reply :
Another question which may be a dumb one. What do I need to run my motor up front? Assuming it's prewired from the back which it looks like it is, it looks like I need some sort of adaptor? I'd like to have the battery in the back. Thanks
clay62 reply :
On 3/18/2012 at 7:16 AM, Tego said:Another question which may be a dumb one. What do I need to run my motor up front? Assuming it's prewired from the back which it looks like it is, it looks like I need some sort of adaptor? I'd like to have the battery in the back. Thanks
Wow, you got the best deal I've heard of on your boat! Seems things are going your way...congratulations! I too need to get one of those three prong adaptors that plug into the 'female' recepticle on the front. I have seen several places to buy them, and they shouldn't be too expensive. I was reluctant to splice my TM cables, but that seems to be the answer. Let me know how you install yours. There is a image of one of those adaptors somewhere on this thread. Great deal on your boat!
Red reply :
On 3/18/2012 at 10:26 AM, clay62 said:Wow, you got the best deal I've heard of on your boat! Seems things are going your way...congratulations! I too need to get one of those three prong adaptors that plug into the 'female' recepticle on the front. I have seen several places to buy them, and they shouldn't be too expensive. I was reluctant to splice my TM cables, but that seems to be the answer. Let me know how you install yours. There is a image of one of those adaptors somewhere on this thread. Great deal on your boat!
I spliced my TM wires. I used I think 6 or 8 gauge wire from home depot. I made the splice with a gurney nut. (I think thats what its called. a little aluminum deal with two screws. stuff the ends of both wires in and tighten the nuts down.) I then shrink wrapped each splice, then electrical tape, then liquid electrical tape, then a layer of rubber tape that I got from the roofer guys at work. My wiring has sat for days submerged in water and I have never had a single problem with it in almost four years now. You also have to turn the head of the TM around if you run it on the front. It is a single nut and bolt right below the head. Remove it, spin the head a half turn and put the bolt back in. If your using a TM that you just steer with your hand manually, I highly recommend a "Big Foot" switch. Here is a link.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001BAKM60/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=10893422407&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1057833650828416393&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&ref=pd_sl_8ck8w35y93_e
Good luck.
Cliff
Bassin_0502 reply :
On 3/18/2012 at 7:16 AM, Tego said:Another question which may be a dumb one. What do I need to run my motor up front? Assuming it's prewired from the back which it looks like it is, it looks like I need some sort of adaptor? I'd like to have the battery in the back. Thanks
I ended up buying both the male and female plugs from Walmart...buying just the male from Pelican would have cost about 25 bucks if I remember. At least buying them as a set, i knew they would fit. Just replaced the female connector in the bow.
Weight distribution is much better with me up front and the battery in the stern. Needs a rudder however (stationary) clamped to the back, boat stills tracks like garbage without one.
Red reply :
On 3/18/2012 at 10:48 PM, Bassin_0502 said:I ended up buying both the male and female plugs from Walmart...buying just the male from Pelican would have cost about 25 bucks if I remember. At least buying them as a set, i knew they would fit. Just replaced the female connector in the bow.
Weight distribution is much better with me up front and the battery in the stern. Needs a rudder however (stationary) clamped to the back, boat stills tracks like garbage without one.
A rudder is easily made, especially if you have access to a welder. If you look back in this thread I think I showed pictures of mine and explained how I made it.
TeamMonroe reply :
Ok, I hear y'all talk about the big foot for tm, anyone have a video of it, what does it do exactly just turn the tm on and off?
lunchbox77703 reply :
hey guys do ya know of the lil foot controlled trolling made specially for the 2 man bass boats ?
jaaron01 reply :
Yeah I know about the big foot, and was thinking of getting on for my TM. Its just a foot switch you splice into the wiring on the TM, and it's basically and on/off switch. Very handy on a windy day. Speaking of which I took my little 8ft'r out on the big open lake, with about 18-20 mph gusting to 34. I decided to head across the lake to get out of the wind some, and the water was rolling between 1 ft to 1 1/2 feet. One hand on the seat, and one hand on the TM. Made it across in one piece and was actually surprised at how well she did. Didn't take on any water, was fairly stable considering her size. I was rolling around about as much as the larger boats.
I wouldn't want to try any higher wind, and it wasn't on purpose, but I've got more faith in what she's capable of now. Sturdy little boat, and I love it!!!! Got my trailer hitch installed and now I need the trailer. I'll post once I get it, and fix her up. Guy has a 4 X 8 trailer with no floor, brand new, and wants $200.00 for it, as he bought 2 at an auction and only needs 1. I"m thinking of instead of putting a floor on it, just having about 4 or 5 square rods welded across the bottom, side to side, about 1 to 2 feet apart. No need for wood floor as it's going to get wet anyway backing into the water.
Red reply :
On 3/19/2012 at 12:35 PM, TeamMonroe said:Ok, I hear y'all talk about the big foot for tm, anyone have a video of it, what does it do exactly just turn the tm on and off?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001BAKM60/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=10893422407&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1057833650828416393&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&ref=pd_sl_8ck8w35y93_e
Splice into your TM wires then just twist the handle to the speed you want. When you step on the switch you go, step off and you stop!!
mudturtlle reply :
I have a question about running the trolling motor from the front.I tried it today on my new pelican 10 E.It did not seem to react very well when trying to turn the boat.I don't know if it was because I was on the front with the trolling motor and.batery but when I switched to the back it.would turn like a top.
dman reply :
the boat will twist and spin easilly with the motor up front, put a rudder on the back of the boat to prevent this, also keep the battery in the back
KansasBassin reply :
On 3/20/2012 at 7:02 AM, Red said:http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001BAKM60/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=10893422407&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1057833650828416393&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&ref=pd_sl_8ck8w35y93_e
Splice into your TM wires then just twist the handle to the speed you want. When you step on the switch you go, step off and you stop!!
Must have
TeamMonroe reply :
Finally put the 2hp. Clinton on the Raider, waiting on picking up a 5hp. from my brother once the work is finished and we make a trip back home to pick it up. But with seats sitting so high I had to make anothet steering arm to be able to reach it comfotably.
Redlinerobert reply :
I may become a Pelican owner myself. 
The new place I'm getting has a small pond where one of these bad boys would be ideal. Where can I get the best price?
TeamMonroe reply :
Craigslist, they are always on there. Gave 300 for mine with 3 seats and tm.
Red reply :
On 3/28/2012 at 3:24 AM, Redlinerobert said:I may become a Pelican owner myself.
The new place I'm getting has a small pond where one of these bad boys would be ideal. Where can I get the best price?
My local Academy has the 8' models on clearance, says discontinued. Maybe check their website. They were $299.
Redlinerobert reply :
holy schmoly that's cheap!
jaaron01 reply :
For what it's worth I bought one of the Humingbird Fish'n Buddies the 110 model. Everyone said they shake too much when going to fast with the trolling motor. I put one ring of Black electrical tape around the base were it fits into the holder, and that seemed to clear up the issue. This thing works just like any other fish finder, and a buddy with his boat was out with me, both he and I had the same readings, depth, temp. etc. etc.
So if anyones wondering about getting one of these....go for it..well worth the 119.00 at Walmart.
Also working on getting my trailer fixed up and registered with Nebraska. I'll post some photo's once she's ready to go.
clay62 reply :
On 3/28/2012 at 7:45 AM, jaaron01 said:For what it's worth I bought one of the Humingbird Fish'n Buddies the 110 model. Everyone said they shake too much when going to fast with the trolling motor. I put one ring of Black electrical tape around the base were it fits into the holder, and that seemed to clear up the issue. This thing works just like any other fish finder, and a buddy with his boat was out with me, both he and I had the same readings, depth, temp. etc. etc.
So if anyones wondering about getting one of these....go for it..well worth the 119.00 at Walmart.
Also working on getting my trailer fixed up and registered with Nebraska. I'll post some photo's once she's ready to go.
I've had a fishin buddy for over 10 years, and it's a great tool. I have one of the original Bottomline models and I use it every time I go out in my little boat. It helped me to locate a creek channel the oher day,where I found and caught some crappie. Mine still works well, and I plan on using it along with my new Humminbird 570 DI PT (portable) unit that arrived today. I could use some ideas about how to mount the suction cup transducer in a neat fasion, if the side of the boat isn't adequate. I will let you guys know how it works out for me. You will get much use out of your fishin buddy, and I would highly recommend it. I especially like the side finder on mine, and it does mark fish out ahead of you. Also, the temp gauge works well to let you know where the fish may be hanging out in early spring, etc. I started to buy the color model fishin' buddy (model 140, I think) before I made the final decision to get the down imaging model. I hope to be able to 'see' and study the bottom of my favorite ponds soon. Congratulations on your purchase. I'm sure it will increase your productivity.
clay62 reply :
On 3/19/2012 at 1:22 PM, lunchbox77703 said:hey guys do ya know of the lil foot controlled trolling made specially for the 2 man bass boats ?
I'm about to make the decision to order the motorguide bulldog 40 transom / bow mount TM. It's the only one I've found that appears to work on small boats like ours without mounting to a deck, etc. I've read good reviews about some guys who have them on a 10 foot Raider. Read some reviews on Cabelas. I think I will get this for the front, and add a 'rudder' on the back. I may even use my endura 30 on the back as well....so much to do, too little time...LOL.
Poney reply :
Hello guys. I recently joined after finding this thread.
Lots of great ideas and tips on the great boats.
Im just about to begin construction on a movable "rack" to mount a fish finder. Im making it out or pvc pipe.
imagine the seat bracket, with a plate mounted on top, instead of the seat.
it will fit in the grooves the seat bracket fits into, and can slide forward and backward, depending on if im fishing alone, or with a buddy.
ill post pics when im finished. it looks good in my mind..hope it looks good once its finished. lol
Tego reply :
This site is great! I recently purchased the Bass Raider 10e after a lot of research and help from the folks on here.
clay62 reply :
Today I installed two Attwood Lift N Lock anchor control systems on my Bass Raider 10 E. I've had these for a while, and finally got around to placing them on my boat. I used the aluminum transom and bow plates to attach them to. I checked to see if I would have clearance on my rear transon, beside my endura TM. I was able to move the TM to one side, and still have clearance for complete up and down movement of my mushroom shaped 10 lb. anchor. The front / bow transom plate is not as wide, so I will probably have to attach the front anchor pulley assembly on the side later when I get my foot controlled TM ( Motorguide Bulldog 40 ). I don't have enough clearance on front currently to allow the anchor to 'store' or deploy beside of my older Bottomline Fishin' Buddy II FF. The anchor system is installed, but there's not enough room beside of the the telescoping shaft on the FF, to allow clearance. I will just have to use the anchor lock on front until I get the rest worked out. I also plan to test out my new Humminbird 570 DI PT (portable ) tomorrow. The anchor pulleys work really well, and should save me a lot of trouble when trying to anchor. I can actually operate both anchors from my seat. I just leave the ropes close enough to grab them, and 'lift and lock' or deploy... These boats get moved around a lot by the wind, and two anchor points are very important, if you want to stay in place, back away from a target area. I usually try to anchor away from crappie / bass holding areas, and take some time to fish those areas slowly and carefully. I've had some crappie bites recently that were so subtle, that I had to be completely still to detect their movement. I used a 1/8" drill bit to pilot the holes for mounting the pully brackets, and used size 8 x 3/4 " sheet metal screws to attach them with. This worked really well, and made a strong bond to the aluminum plates. If anyone has any further questions about these anchor systems, feel free to ask. I enjoy making modifications to my little boat, and hope to share some of my findings to make you guys' time more productive. I will try to post a couple of pictures of my project. Also, I installed a rod holder today that turned out nicely...More to come later ...take care, and good luck fishing...
Poney reply :
well I finally fabricated a mount for my fishfinder on the bassraider.
I started with the idea of making something out of pvc that would slide in the seat tracks and came up with this
then my dad gave me the idea of a mounting plate, attached the seat, so it would swivel with me. we found a scrap piece of metal, and came up with this
the seat already had the holes for the screws, I just drilled the holes in the metal.
what do ya think?
Midnight Splash2 reply :
How do you plan on keeping the wires from wrapping around the chair mount when you do a 360 degree swivel?
Poney reply :
not pictured is a whole drilled through the swivel plate that the wire turns through, and connects to the battery under the seat. the wire runs up through the swivel, so i can spin around without wrapping it around the swivel. although i rarley spine a full 360 degrees, its usually a 180 at most.
jaaron01 reply :
So got my trailer all set up and ready for this weekend. No more lifting this thing up and out, she's ready to slide right in the water. Got the 4X8 trailer from a guy on craigslist for $100.00. Added $40.00 worth of treated 2X6's, and the carpet was free. Perfect size for what I needed.
clay62 reply :
On 4/3/2012 at 8:22 AM, jaaron01 said:So got my trailer all set up and ready for this weekend. No more lifting this thing up and out, she's ready to slide right in the water. Got the 4X8 trailer from a guy on craigslist for $100.00. Added $40.00 worth of treated 2X6's, and the carpet was free. Perfect size for what I needed.
That's a neat setup. I made some 'guides' out of 1 1/2" treated lumber to center my boat on the trailer. I also used the same size stock lumber to build a battery containment area on the front of the trailer during transit. The TM battery fits nicely between the pontoons and I strap it down with a bungee cord. I had an older Bass Hunter used boat that the previous owner had busted a hole inside the boat from his battery sliding around during transit. Also, if you were to have an accident, the battery is secure and won't fly out of or across your little boat. My trailer is 5' x 8', and fits my 10 foot Bass Raider fine. That's a nice rig you've got there...great times ahead...Check my previous post above about my new anchor system. They worked great the other day, and allowed me to stop and concentrate more time on some fish holding structure. I caught several fish that I would have normally passed up because of the hassle from the ever present wind... My new DI (down imaging ) FF worked like expected, and revealed some underwater trees that produced seveal bass for me and my brother. I can't wait to go again...I love my little boat and current setup. My next purchase will be the foot controlled TM mentioned in an earlier post...Good luck, and stay safe...
jaaron01 reply :
I was thinking now that "lifting weight" isn't so much an issue, that I might go ahead and add a piece of plywood on the floor. Sand all the edges really good so it wouldn't rub any holes in the bottom. And somehow strap my Battery down to that. Also seen were a previous poster had added a pedestal seat up front, once he had a plywood floor. I was thinking of making one of those for the front and leaving the back standard like it is for when I have my fishing partner with me. My only concern is those seats add stability to the sides of the boat, and keep them from caving in when the weight is in the center of the boat.
Haven't added an anchor yet, as most of the lakes around here have plenty of tree snags in the water, and I generally tie up to them and fish, or just troll. Also with the plywood floor I'd have something to add the "big foot" controller to, should I decide to snag one of those.
As for the trailer, you can't see but i did leave a "gap" between the pontoons, and have two 2x4's the length of the trailer, on edge and (covered with carpet as well) as guides for the boat to slide up on. They stick up about 2 inches just inside the pontoons. Keeps the boat from shifting side to side while towing and rubbing on the wheel fenders. Also makes like easier when putting her back on the trailer as she just guides right up and on.
Here's a photo of the trailer before the boat, you can see the guides. Did have to a fender welded on but for $100.00 it was still a steal.
FishinWonn reply :
Just bought me a Bass Raider 10e at Dick's. They wanted $599.99 for it, but I got them to do a price-match with Academy for $499.99. I'm in Virginia and the nearest Academy is 8 hours away in Tennessee. Just print the page from Academy and take it to Dick's manager.
mtdoramike reply :
On 4/6/2012 at 3:57 AM, FishinWonn said:Just bought me a Bass Raider 10e at Dick's. They wanted $599.99 for it, but I got them to do a price-match with Academy for $499.99. I'm in Virginia and the nearest Academy is 8 hours away in Tennessee. Just print the page from Academy and take it to Dick's manager.
Wow, that was a great deal, I figured since the other store was so far away, They wouldn't have done the price match.
mtdoramike reply :
On 4/3/2012 at 8:03 PM, jaaron01 said:I was thinking now that "lifting weight" isn't so much an issue, that I might go ahead and add a piece of plywood on the floor. Sand all the edges really good so it wouldn't rub any holes in the bottom. And somehow strap my Battery down to that. Also seen were a previous poster had added a pedestal seat up front, once he had a plywood floor. I was thinking of making one of those for the front and leaving the back standard like it is for when I have my fishing partner with me. My only concern is those seats add stability to the sides of the boat, and keep them from caving in when the weight is in the center of the boat.
Haven't added an anchor yet, as most of the lakes around here have plenty of tree snags in the water, and I generally tie up to them and fish, or just troll. Also with the plywood floor I'd have something to add the "big foot" controller to, should I decide to snag one of those.
As for the trailer, you can't see but i did leave a "gap" between the pontoons, and have two 2x4's the length of the trailer, on edge and (covered with carpet as well) as guides for the boat to slide up on. They stick up about 2 inches just inside the pontoons. Keeps the boat from shifting side to side while towing and rubbing on the wheel fenders. Also makes like easier when putting her back on the trailer as she just guides right up and on.
Here's a photo of the trailer before the boat, you can see the guides. Did have to a fender welded on but for $100.00 it was still a steal.
I love the looks of the trailer.
Tego reply :
OK, I finally got my plug from Pelican (through Amazon) to use my trolling motor from the front.
How do you guys go about splicing the plug to the trolling motor wires? Before I splice them together using wire nuts and electrical tape (there *has* to be a better way) I thought I'd see what others had done first.
I have a Minnkota 30/30.
Thanks for the help!
jeffo21 reply :
get some of the shrink wrap connectors from a hardware store.
Bassin_0502 reply :
On 4/13/2012 at 4:45 AM, Tego said:OK, I finally got my plug from Pelican (through Amazon) to use my trolling motor from the front.
How do you guys go about splicing the plug to the trolling motor wires? Before I splice them together using wire nuts and electrical tape (there *has* to be a better way) I thought I'd see what others had done first.
I have a Minnkota 30/30.
Thanks for the help!
I used butt splice electrical connectors and then wrapped them with electrical tape.I generally try to have the splices 'offset' by and inch or so, that way when wrapped they're not so bulky. (In other words on the plug side, the positive wire might be two inches shorter than the neg, and on the other side, the positive wire is two inches longer than the neg. Hope that's clear.
badsters reply :
On 4/14/2012 at 1:29 AM, Bassin_0502 said:I used butt splice electrical connectors and then wrapped them with electrical tape.I generally try to have the splices 'offset' by and inch or so, that way when wrapped they're not so bulky. (In other words on the plug side, the positive wire might be two inches shorter than the neg, and on the other side, the positive wire is two inches longer than the neg. Hope that's clear.
I use heat shrink crimp splices. If I dont have the correct size, I prefit the wire with heat shrink tubing that will fit over the splices. After I crimp, I use my heat shrink gun to shrink either the splices or the heat shrink tube. Works great!!!
mudturtlle reply :
just hooked up my bulldog 40 yesterday and tried it on the water.I do believe this is the best addition I've made to the bass raider.With the wind blowing 15 to 20 mph.,I could still fish and keep the boat where I wanted it.
FishinWonn reply :
RAIDER RUDDER
Saw some talk about adding a rudder to the Bass Raider 10e to keep it from being blown around in the wind. However, I don't have access to a welder like some of the people who posted pics of their rudders. Been thinking about how to do this for awhile and eventually came up with the idea to use an oar as the rudder - but couldn't figure out how to mount it until I was wandering through the aisles at Dick's Sporting Goods the other night. Here's what I came up with:
Instructions
Purchase the following items at Dick's (found all these items in the same aisle)
1. Black oar = $25
2. Scotty Baitcaster/Spinning Rod Holder = $25
3. Caviness Clamp-on Oar-Locks = $10
4. Two small bolts, nuts, and pressure-washers (I had these in my shop already, think it was 1/4" thick bolts and approx. 1.5 inches long)
*I think there are 2 sizes of Scotty Rod Holders, I got the smaller one. I was able to take the oar and test fit it into the rod-holder in the store. Make sure it's a tight fit, leaving little room. Once you attach the oar-lock (see below), it will definitely be tight and hopefully won't turn much.
- unmount the metal plate from the rear of the Bass Raider
- drill 2 holes in the plate using the rod-holder as your hole guide (see pics for how it's mounted), make sure you don't put them to near the edge of the plate (to accommodate for the screw heads)
- insert a bolt in each hole of the plate and up into the rod-holder mount
- insert pressure-washer and nut into each hole of rod-holder and tighten down
- attach clamp-on oar lock to oar at desired depth (remove oar-lock pin from oar-lock)
- insert oar handle up into rod-holder, then pull down on oar so the oar-lock seats into the rod-holder
- attach rubber strap to secure oar
The rod holder allows you to adjust the angle of the rudder (oar) so that you can compensate for shallow water or remove it from the water when coming ashore. Also, this will give you an extra oar in the event your battery dies and both fisherman need to paddle back to the dock. I haven't field-tested this yet, but seems like it'll work pretty good. Will let you know soon.
*more Wonnmeister Raider Mods coming soon
Bassin_0502 reply :
Sweet! I like that alot!
jaaron01 reply :
My only concern would be if you hit something underwater "and it will happen" would it break your rod holder off? Several post back, I went with the old Trolling motor I got from craigslist for like 20.00, it had the metal shaft. Cut both the motor and control head off, so just the metal shaft with the mount left, and found an old piece of scrap sheet metal from a sign shop and bolted it on. Nice and solid, and don't stick up, has it's own mount already built in. Best feature is it has a tilt, so I can tilt it up and it will lock in place. I'm a little bit of a redneck myself, but it works greeaattt!
Ordered a boat cover this week, so I can get the beast out of the garage and on the trailer permanently. Didn't want her outside without some protection from the elements. Once I get her put on the trailer, and under cover I'll post some photo's. Found a nice cover on-line for around 38.00.
TeamMonroe reply :
@Jaaron where did you pick the cover up at, have a link?
FishinWonn reply :
Good point Jaaron. Off the top of my head, there are two ways to mitigate this problem.
The first is to angle the oar up, so that the fat part of the oar is just under the surface. Locking it in at that angle, the boat will be deeper than the oar.
The second way is to prevent the teeth on the rod-holder from locking into each other. You could probably put a big metal washer between the teeth to do this. That way, you could still hand-tighten the oar in position, but if you hit something going too fast, the metal washer should let the oar angle up and out of the water. I'm going to try this option and see how it works. Thanks again to Jaaron for pointing that out.
jaaron01 reply :
On 4/18/2012 at 9:20 PM, TeamMonroe said:@Jaaron where did you pick the cover up at, have a link?
try this http://www.easternmarine.com/stearns-8-10-bass-hunter-boat-cover-83404
Should arrive today. But seems like a decent cover.
FishinWonn reply :
Jaaron,
I tried out the washer idea today - works like a charm. Now you can't hand tighten it hard enough to keep it from moving, but still give if the boat hits something. But it is snug enough that it'll stay in place, or by pushing on the handle, you can quickly raise the rudder. Now if I hit something going forward, it will easily push the rudder up and out of the way. Going backwards is a different story, but I can simply have the back-seater person lift the rudder up if I need to go backwards at a high rate of speed. Thanks for the presenting that concern - probably saved me a broken rod-holder.
I'll try to get a step-by-step setup on Instructables.com soon for anyone that wishes to see more details of the installation.
TeamMonroe reply :
On 4/19/2012 at 7:24 PM, jaaron01 said:try this http://www.easternmarine.com/stearns-8-10-bass-hunter-boat-cover-83404
Should arrive today. But seems like a decent cover.
Wow thanks for the link jaaron, think i'm going to pick one up. Pist a pic with on when ya get it abd let me know what ya think about it.
bighoss reply :
Wow! I'm glad I came across this thread! Sooo much information here. Hello to everyone, this is my first post.
I'm in the market (Craigslist) looking for my first Pelican. I'm a big guy though (6'4" @ 320lbs) and I can't seem to find any decent information on how stable these things are when you're solo fishing and no real counter weight on the opposite end. Any other big guys here that own one of these in the 8' or 10' that can speak to stability on the water and moreover the stability of the stock seats w/ aluminum frames?
Total capacity looks like 600lbs, but I'm sure the manufacturer was intending that weight to be spread out.
Ideas? Thanks in advance!
musky reply :
Lots of great information and ideas on this forum. I've decided to purchase the 10e as soon as I can find one for a decent price on craigslist. I'm going to put a 50lb thrust foot controlled trolling motor on the bow. Anyone think this will pull too hard??
jaaron01 reply :
On 4/21/2012 at 2:26 AM, TeamMonroe said:Wow thanks for the link jaaron, think i'm going to pick one up. Pist a pic with on when ya get it abd let me know what ya think about it.
Got her loaded on the trailer, and under cover. Seems like a decent cover, i think it's worth the 32.00 dollars or whatever it was. It's not paper thin but it's thin and light so we'll see how it holds up in the nebraska weather.
Used the trailer today, and lord is that nice. Back up, push her off, fish, back up, float her on then puller her out. No back pain at all. Still need to get a sheet of plywood for the floor so I can strap down my battery and not take it in and out all the time. I'm just afraid of having to hit the brakes to hard sometime and sending that 60lb battery rolling thru the boat.
badsters reply :
On 4/22/2012 at 6:38 AM, jaaron01 said:Got her loaded on the trailer, and under cover. Seems like a decent cover, i think it's worth the 32.00 dollars or whatever it was. It's not paper thin but it's thin and light so we'll see how it holds up in the nebraska weather.
Used the trailer today, and lord is that nice. Back up, push her off, fish, back up, float her on then puller her out. No back pain at all. Still need to get a sheet of plywood for the floor so I can strap down my battery and not take it in and out all the time. I'm just afraid of having to hit the brakes to hard sometime and sending that 60lb battery rolling thru the boat.
Does this cover come with a frame? Also will it fit a 10 ft bass raider?
Tanks for the pics and link.
Ron
jaaron01 reply :
It don't come with a frame. It's made especially for the Bass Hound 8 or 10 ft'r. It just slips over the top of everything and has an elastic courd sown in it, which is supposed to catch on the seam of the boat.
badsters reply :
Thanks
mudturtlle reply :
On 4/22/2012 at 5:41 AM, musky said:Lots of great information and ideas on this forum. I've decided to purchase the 10e as soon as I can find one for a decent price on craigslist. I'm going to put a 50lb thrust foot controlled trolling motor on the bow. Anyone think this will pull too hard??
I have the 40 lb. thrust bulldog on my bow.Would not recommend anything much larger because everytime you hit the pedal you see the motor mount flexes.The 40 has all the power you would need.
musky reply :
On 4/22/2012 at 7:33 PM, mudturtlle said:I have the 40 lb. thrust bulldog on my bow.Would not recommend anything much larger because everytime you hit the pedal you see the motor mount flexes.The 40 has all the power you would need.
How do you have it hooked up? do you you have it in the front hooked into the in-hull wiring with the battery in the back?
mudturtlle reply :
Yes I have it hooked in the front with the prewired plug and the batteries in the back.I also have a 55# thrust on the back for a backup.It seems the 40# in the front moves the boat faster than the 55# in the back.
TeamMonroe reply :
Jaaron when i'm trailering the boat back and forth , I run one of my tie down straps thru the seat frame and over top of the battery and the boat, seat and battery are all secure.
jaaron01 reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 12:54 AM, TeamMonroe said:Jaaron when i'm trailering the boat back and forth , I run one of my tie down straps thru the seat frame and over top of the battery and the boat, seat and battery are all secure.
Unfortunatley that won't work on my boat. Apparently my boat is deeper than most. When I run the straps over the boat, there's a good 6-7 inches of space from the top of the battery to the top of the boat. I did however use bungee cords for the seats to hold them in. I lift them off the rails and sit them down on the floor, then run my bungee across them. I drilled small holes in the rails so the bungees would attach and stretch across from side-to-side.
I just thought using the plywood would be easy, plus stiffen up the floor, although it doesn't need it. I do love this boat, and now with a trailer it's even better. I've had a lot of folks eyeballing it and asking questions, and as I do have it stored on the side of the house, I thought I better get a little insurance just in case. I take the trolling motor and fishfinder off, along with my fishing poles, and leave the rest in the boat. Thru Progressive for $119.00 a year they insured everything against theft, fire, acts of GOD. I guesstimated it would cost about $1600.00 to replace the trailer, boat, battery, upgraded padded seats, etc.
Poney reply :
On 4/22/2012 at 4:21 AM, bighoss said:Wow! I'm glad I came across this thread! Sooo much information here. Hello to everyone, this is my first post.
I'm in the market (Craigslist) looking for my first Pelican. I'm a big guy though (6'4" @ 320lbs) and I can't seem to find any decent information on how stable these things are when you're solo fishing and no real counter weight on the opposite end. Any other big guys here that own one of these in the 8' or 10' that can speak to stability on the water and moreover the stability of the stock seats w/ aluminum frames?
Total capacity looks like 600lbs, but I'm sure the manufacturer was intending that weight to be spread out.
Ideas? Thanks in advance!
Hey Bighoss,
Ive got the pelican bass raider 10e (10 ft)
Im about 6ft, 310, and Ill sometimes fish solo. Ive got TM, and battery in the rear, and I cam move my seat from back to front without any problems. I sit in the back when im steering, and ill move up to the front while fishing. Boat is very stable either way. I can even stand up and fish, no problems.
Even with me, and a friend (about 200lbs), with battery, cooler, and all our gear, the boat is very stable. Still rides high in the water. Its an awesome boat !
Poney reply :
Thought I would share some pics.
I needed a way to mount my fish finder, and mount the transducer in front of the boat. I run trolling motor in the rear, so the TM mount wouldnt work for me , and I didnt really want to screw holes in the boat. So I turned to PVC (AKA Grown Man Legos)
This is made from 1/2inch pvc with a piece of diamond plate zip tied to the top. I have a mini 12volt battery underneath to power the fishfinder. I've got plans to add a rod holder, and measuring tape.
This is for the transducer. 3/4inch pvc, notched at the bottom, and drilled to hold the transducer. Simply hangs over the front.
(Pic has it mounted on the rear because the boat was loaded front first)
I tried it out this past weekend, and it worked great.
bighoss reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 1:10 PM, Poney said:Hey Bighoss,
Ive got the pelican bass raider 10e (10 ft)
Im about 6ft, 310, and Ill sometimes fish solo. Ive got TM, and battery in the rear, and I cam move my seat from back to front without any problems. I sit in the back when im steering, and ill move up to the front while fishing. Boat is very stable either way. I can even stand up and fish, no problems.
Even with me, and a friend (about 200lbs), with battery, cooler, and all our gear, the boat is very stable. Still rides high in the water. Its an awesome boat !
Hey! Thanks for the reply!
Can you also stand up to cast/fish if you prefer anywhere on the boat solo?
Love this thing, perfect for a first boat.
bighoss reply :
On 4/22/2012 at 6:38 AM, jaaron01 said:Got her loaded on the trailer, and under cover. Seems like a decent cover, i think it's worth the 32.00 dollars or whatever it was. It's not paper thin but it's thin and light so we'll see how it holds up in the nebraska weather.
Used the trailer today, and lord is that nice. Back up, push her off, fish, back up, float her on then puller her out. No back pain at all. Still need to get a sheet of plywood for the floor so I can strap down my battery and not take it in and out all the time. I'm just afraid of having to hit the brakes to hard sometime and sending that 60lb battery rolling thru the boat.
Looking for a trailer for mine real soon. Every trailer I see is either made for a V-shaped boat or is just a straight up utility/landscaping trailer. Yours looks to be the perfect size. What size is it, and where did you locate it?
Thanks in advance for the info!
jaaron01 reply :
I started off looking for a Jet Ski trailer that I could just add a floor to. However after posting on Craigslist what I was looking for, a guy replied with a 4X8 ft utility trailer and wanted $200.00 for it. But after seeing the trailer in person, and noting some issues, he gave it to me for $100.00, plus a new light set. All I did was add the floor (which it didn't have) for about $40.00 with 8ft pressure treated 2x6's.
Today I found on Craigslist a couple jet ski trailers for like 100 to 125 a piece. As mine is an 8 ft'r it was a little easier getting a trailer that fit, than finding one for a 10 ftr. I would just look for a utility trailer without a floor, that's what I did. Trailer is light enough I can pick up the rear by myself.
musky reply :
Has anyone put truck bed liner on the bottom of their boat? I was thinking about doing it since I fish a lot of rocky rivers. I know it will add weight and take away from some of the "speed" but would like to toughen it up though.
DrNip reply :
On 4/24/2012 at 1:14 AM, musky said:Has anyone put truck bed liner on the bottom of their boat? I was thinking about doing it since I fish a lot of rocky rivers. I know it will add weight and take away from some of the "speed" but would like to toughen it up though.
Bed Liner Spray? Interesing question. I would only do it if you were riding solo.
mtdoramike reply :
On 4/24/2012 at 1:14 AM, musky said:Has anyone put truck bed liner on the bottom of their boat? I was thinking about doing it since I fish a lot of rocky rivers. I know it will add weight and take away from some of the "speed" but would like to toughen it up though.
Well if your going to use it for river fishing, I would highly recommend doing something to help protect the bottom of the boat or go with a metal boat. My Bass Raider was purchased from a guy who also used it twice to fish a river in Virginia. The bottom has a few gouges from the two trips, but nothing too serious or no leaks.
mtdoramike reply :
My brother had a john boat that has some leaks on the bottom of it so He used black jack tar that you buy for roof repairs and covered portions of the bottom with it. It worked great. He would just have to reapply it every now and then.
musky reply :
On 4/24/2012 at 1:18 AM, DrNip said:Bed Liner Spray? Interesing question. I would only do it if you were riding solo.
How would using it solo affect anything?
DrNip reply :
I was meaning I didn't know how much extra weight it would cause after the spray therefore I suggested only going solo with it. Only way to find out is spray and see.
dwaynesworld reply :
does your platform, just ride in seat tracks? or is it secured down?On 4/23/2012 at 1:17 PM, Poney said:Thought I would share some pics.
I needed a way to mount my fish finder, and mount the transducer in front of the boat. I run trolling motor in the rear, so the TM mount wouldnt work for me , and I didnt really want to screw holes in the boat. So I turned to PVC (AKA Grown Man Legos)
This is made from 1/2inch pvc with a piece of diamond plate zip tied to the top. I have a mini 12volt battery underneath to power the fishfinder. I've got plans to add a rod holder, and measuring tape.
This is for the transducer. 3/4inch pvc, notched at the bottom, and drilled to hold the transducer. Simply hangs over the front.
(Pic has it mounted on the rear because the boat was loaded front first)
I tried it out this past weekend, and it worked great.
mtdoramike reply :
WOW, that is a nice setup. But I would have sold you a Humminbird 215 Portable Depth/Fish Finder with a suction cup transducer and a new trolling motor transducer mount kit for $90.00 + shipping. It's in excellent condition and only used a couple of times.
Ooooooooops, SOLD!
Poney reply :
On 4/24/2012 at 7:33 AM, dwaynesworld said:does your platform, just ride in seat tracks? or is it secured down?
It just rides the seat tracks. I can move it back and forward as needed.
Poney reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 11:36 PM, bighoss said:Hey! Thanks for the reply!
Can you also stand up to cast/fish if you prefer anywhere on the boat solo?
Love this thing, perfect for a first boat.
yeah, sure can.Its my first boat as well, and i love it.
its especially good when lake levels are low, like they are here in west texas. Big boats cant get in when ramps are closed, but i can
Poney reply :
On 4/24/2012 at 1:14 AM, musky said:Has anyone put truck bed liner on the bottom of their boat? I was thinking about doing it since I fish a lot of rocky rivers. I know it will add weight and take away from some of the "speed" but would like to toughen it up though.
I havnt tried it myself, but from what Ive read on other forums its a bad idea. Apparently it flakes off pretty easily, and just turns out to be more of a mess, than any protection.
Defreshone reply :
Anyone use their raider in a tournament? Curious about how functional one would be minus the obvious about range on the water.
musky reply :
On 4/28/2012 at 9:55 AM, Defreshone said:Anyone use their raider in a tournament? Curious about how functional one would be minus the obvious about range on the water.
I'm sure you'd get absolutly swamped on the take off. They're not made for fishing the size of lakes that most tournaments are held on, last time I was at the launch when a tournament was blasting off the smallest outboard I saw was a 115hp... that should tell you something
dman reply :
On 4/30/2012 at 3:27 AM, musky said:I'm sure you'd get absolutly swamped on the take off. They're not made for fishing the size of lakes that most tournaments are held on, last time I was at the launch when a tournament was blasting off the smallest outboard I saw was a 115hp... that should tell you something
This is very true. However, in my area we have some smaller lakes 125-250 acres that are electric motor only that have a few tournaments a year. I'm sure you can do something like this and possibly have some advantages but dont forget, you will have to rig up some sort of livewell
jaaron01 reply :
I'm thinking of changing the blade on my trolling motor with a 3 bladed prop from Kipawa. I know that using this "High Performance" prop will void the warrenty on my Minn Kota, but was curious if anyone else had used these, and what were the results?
http://www.kipawapropellers.com/
Defreshone reply :
On 4/30/2012 at 9:04 PM, dman said:This is very true. However, in my area we have some smaller lakes 125-250 acres that are electric motor only that have a few tournaments a year. I'm sure you can do something like this and possibly have some advantages but dont forget, you will have to rig up some sort of livewell
On 4/30/2012 at 3:27 AM, musky said:I'm sure you'd get absolutly swamped on the take off. They're not made for fishing the size of lakes that most tournaments are held on, last time I was at the launch when a tournament was blasting off the smallest outboard I saw was a 115hp... that should tell you something
Yeah, I agree. There is a bass club in Jacksonville, Fl that seems to hold 3-5 of their tournaments on smaller lakes. The tournament coord. said his son fished one of their tourneys out of a 10 ft jon boat and took 2nd place. The club is a family driven club it seems. It might work out! Thanks for the input though. I will attend their next tournament in June to see what its all about. I may enter or not enter. Haha.
Defreshone reply :
I picked up my 10e off craigslist yesterday along with a 50 lb minn kota (which I got for $70). The boat came with a smaller marine battery (this was not included on the craigs listing so I was surprised) and I had purchased a 29/125 amp battery already prior to picking up the boat.
For the big guys, this thing is sweet! Im 5'9, 240 and this thing was stable and smooth with 2 batteries in the boat, large trolling motor and gear. I was able to get accustomed to it very quickly. I have a friend who is 5'10 and 260. I'll report how the boat holds up with both of us and gear loaded. I suspect that there will be no issues with ALL of the weight in the boat.
I had first attached the used battery and it worked ok but I wanted to see what the larger battery would do. So, I switched them out. That 50lb minn kota had me cruisin! Out of the 5 speeds, 3-4 are super nice and 5 is just haulin rear (for a trolling motor that is)! Reverse worked nicely as well with its 3 speeds.
I have always been a land raider while fishing. It's really nice to get out on to the water and get the most out of my gear. I started off in a nice, clear pond that wasn't too deep for safety reasons. After building my confidence yesterday, I'm ready for all of the areas that i have been wanting to go.
If you are wanting one then get one! Great buy all around.
musky reply :
On 5/1/2012 at 3:37 AM, Defreshone said:I picked up my 10e off craigslist yesterday along with a 50 lb minn kota (which I got for $70). The boat came with a smaller marine battery (this was not included on the craigs listing so I was surprised) and I had purchased a 29/125 amp battery already prior to picking up the boat.
For the big guys, this thing is sweet! Im 5'9, 240 and this thing was stable and smooth with 2 batteries in the boat, large trolling motor and gear. I was able to get accustomed to it very quickly. I have a friend who is 5'10 and 260. I'll report how the boat holds up with both of us and gear loaded. I suspect that there will be no issues with ALL of the weight in the boat.
I had first attached the used battery and it worked ok but I wanted to see what the larger battery would do. So, I switched them out. That 50lb minn kota had me cruisin! Out of the 5 speeds, 3-4 are super nice and 5 is just haulin rear (for a trolling motor that is)! Reverse worked nicely as well with its 3 speeds.
I have always been a land raider while fishing. It's really nice to get out on to the water and get the most out of my gear. I started off in a nice, clear pond that wasn't too deep for safety reasons. After building my confidence yesterday, I'm ready for all of the areas that i have been wanting to go.
If you are wanting one then get one! Great buy all around.
You're lucky to find one on craigslist, I've been searching for about a month now and I'm about to break down and just buy a new one. Do the seats move around at all when you take off at full speed with that 50lb thrust trolling motor? I've heard that can be a problem but maybe thats just with gas outboards...
bighoss reply :
Okay! After about 2 weeks of searching every single day (sometimes multiple times a day on weekends) I've finally found a deal on one of these boats to call my own!
I had a couple Craigslist deals fall through and a couple where the boat wasn't in very good condition or very old.
The one I broke down and bought, was listed for $700 
I decided to call the guy anyway, and ask him about what kind of total package I would get for that price.
After it was all said and done, I ended up with a 3yr old Pelican Bass Raider 10E (garage kept, super clean) 40# Minn Kota troller, OptiMax Deep cell battery (not 100% sure on specs but a year old - guy said on 2/3 speed, you can expect 6+ hrs on the water) Sears 2A battery charger, Battery box, Paddle, 2 life vests, fire extinguisher <- lol & (2) seat upgrades. The seats aren't the plastic kind that come with it, these are like real boat seats. I closed the deal for $580.00 delivered. (That's right delivered) This guy lives 60 miles away from me, and I told him tonight after looking at it I would be back tomorrow possibly after thinking about it and he offered to load it up in his pickup bed and deliver it. LOL!
Needless to say, I'm excited. I got him to come down $120!! Only downside? Not currently registered, and I need a way to haul it around as I drive a van, not a truck. I'm already thinking of things I want to do to it.. hoping the weather is nice this weekend, might have to take it for a spin at my local lake. (Father-in-law is my fishing buddy, and he has a Jeep Cherokee w/ 8ft utility trailer in meantime for transporting it around)
So I'm officially in the club! 
-BH
bighoss reply :
Also, wanted to let you guys see this..
In my search for a Pelican package in my budget, I came across this guy's setup.
Basically he used like 1" PVC pipe and fittings to create a boxed-frame inside the boat floor and you can see two arms coming up in the front that hold a piece of steel stock that he mounted (4) rod holders to.
I thought it was pretty d**n cool, and when we couldn't come to an agreement on his boat (was in very rough shape) I offered to buy just this off him for $25.00. He almost considered it, but decided it would help him sell his boat.
Seems like this would be out of the way (for the most part) and not take up too much room on the floor. I was also thinking that the bar could be used to mount other things to, without having to screw stuff into the hull and gunnel.
What's your thoughts? I liked it!
EDIT: Actually, I was brainstorming on how to make this better.. how about a couple T-brackets near the rear of it, and have two side-mounted bars (much smaller - maybe 4-5inches wide) and instead of having 4 holders at the front of the boat, just have 2 for front person, and have two at the rear for the guy driving the boat or something. All modular without having to screw anything into the gunnel.
-BH
Defreshone reply :
No problems with my seats, Musky. However, my boat is in like new condition and the seats are still a lil stiff on the swivel with no weight in them. They turn real nice with weight but not outta control.
On 5/1/2012 at 3:51 AM, musky said:You're lucky to find one on craigslist, I've been searching for about a month now and I'm about to break down and just buy a new one. Do the seats move around at all when you take off at full speed with that 50lb thrust trolling motor? I've heard that can be a problem but maybe thats just with gas outboards...
jaaron01 reply :
For the seats, they do like to slide around, but that can be good sometimes. I was wondering if I bought a rubber waterhose, and cut about 16 inches, then split longways to slide over the seat metal rails. If the seat would still "seat" properly in the rails, but not slide so easily around? You can get the replacement hoses for hose carts at walmart for like $7.00, so would be much of an investment if it didn't work.
I decided agaist the "high" performance prop after reading some reviews. Seems they cause TM's to overheat if you run them on high, and burn out the motor. Think I'll stick with my factory prop. As for the seat's sticking when swiveling, i used some of that white grease in a can, and sprayed on the bearings in the swivel and that loosed things up alot.
jaaron01 reply :
On 5/1/2012 at 10:37 AM, bighoss said:Okay! After about 2 weeks of searching every single day (sometimes multiple times a day on weekends) I've finally found a deal on one of these boats to call my own!
I had a couple Craigslist deals fall through and a couple where the boat wasn't in very good condition or very old.
The one I broke down and bought, was listed for $700
I decided to call the guy anyway, and ask him about what kind of total package I would get for that price.
After it was all said and done, I ended up with a 3yr old Pelican Bass Raider 10E (garage kept, super clean) 40# Minn Kota troller, OptiMax Deep cell battery (not 100% sure on specs but a year old - guy said on 2/3 speed, you can expect 6+ hrs on the water) Sears 2A battery charger, Battery box, Paddle, 2 life vests, fire extinguisher <- lol & (2) seat upgrades. The seats aren't the plastic kind that come with it, these are like real boat seats. I closed the deal for $580.00 delivered. (That's right delivered) This guy lives 60 miles away from me, and I told him tonight after looking at it I would be back tomorrow possibly after thinking about it and he offered to load it up in his pickup bed and deliver it. LOL!
Needless to say, I'm excited. I got him to come down $120!! Only downside? Not currently registered, and I need a way to haul it around as I drive a van, not a truck. I'm already thinking of things I want to do to it.. hoping the weather is nice this weekend, might have to take it for a spin at my local lake. (Father-in-law is my fishing buddy, and he has a Jeep Cherokee w/ 8ft utility trailer in meantime for transporting it around)
So I'm officially in the club!
-BH
Hey for hauling it around with a van, I'm in the same boat. However for about $90 bucks and free shipping, I ordered a Curtis Hitch online from either autoaccessoriesgarage.com or etrailers.com, don't remember which one, and installed it on my van myself. Came with the stinger and ball, all one package deal. Took me about 1 hour to install, but the local shop wanted 250.00 for everything, then an extra $116.00 for wiring a trailer hookup on the van, when it already came with one.
Then your only looking for a trailer, which there again, Craigslist comes in handy.
fishcat reply :
I'm new to the board. Great to read all the helpful info about plastic bass boats. I took my 8E out for the third time today. I use a 40 MK on the rear transom, and small AGM battery from Cabela's, and check it with the little MK meter. Using the stock plastic seat. I store the boat vertically against the back wall of the garage in a "cradle." The cradle is two 2x4's standing screwed to two 1x4 feet. The 2x4's support the boat on each side of the raised seam, as it stands up. I back my '02 Ranger up to boat and release the strap. I built two 2x6 bunks to fit across the molded bed liner to slide it in. They are covered with IO carpet. I use a plastic milk crate for my rope, tackle, etc. Also carry a plastic urinal. Need advise on rod straps for the gunwales. Lastly I use Fishin Buddy 130 in the stock clamp-on cradle, with a short 1x4 for support against the boat skin.
jaaron01 reply :
So we had some strong Thunderstorms last night, and the wind somehow overpowered the cover on my boat. So if any reports of a crazy guy out using a mop and bucket on his boat at 5:50 in the a.m. come in, it was me. I couldn't stand the thought of the boat being full of water while I was at work. Took the carpet out, and the lifejackets, and started mopping and rinsing.
At least the inside of the boat is nice and clean now, and the lifejackets got a good cleaning. I'll be rigging up some additional bungee cords this evening to help keep the cover from blowing off in gail force winds this evening.
Defreshone reply :
I liked my raider since I got it this past sunday. I have taken it out the last 4 days in a row. The first 3 days were filled with getting use to it, setting it up, maneuvering it in the wind, and taking family out for a ride. Last night, things were totally different.
All of the "getting use to" was over. My fishing partner was finally able to go with me out on the water in the boat for the first time. The boat performed like a dream. I'm 5'9, 240 pounds. My friend is 5'11 and 260 pounds. We have a 29dc battery, 50 lb minn kota TM, 15 lb anchor weight, and 2 medium size tackle bags with a total of 4 poles in the boat. i was nervous about all of the weight at first. We unloaded everything and pushed off into the pond/lake. Amazing. Having all of the gear and human weight this trip was just like being in it by myself. If you are a big guy then the bass raider is for you.
Fishing wise: This pond/lake (15-20 acres) we went to is not well known. By the looks of it, there are no fish of great size. It looks like some of the other ponds/lakes in the area that are fairly new and the bass might reach 3 lbs at their biggest. All of the ponds in the area are manicured and kept up well. This means high fishing pressure because you can pull your vehicle up, walk 10-20 ft and cast out. There are only 2 spots to fish from land on this pond and they are in the super shallow (as we came to find out later) areas. I have fished this pond from land twice and caught nothing. not a bite.
Well, we decided to take the raider out on it hoping for some better luck last night. The first thing we noticed was the depth. I dont have a depth finder on board (yet) but the anchor line was indicating that this pond that looks like the rest of the shallow ponds in the area was actually between 15-25 ft deep! 
I have never fished anything deeper than 10-15 being that i have always been on land. It is good to be able to find out the actual depth of the water to make better lure/placement selection.
Long story short, my friend caught 1 that was over 5 lbs and some smaller ones on a frog. I didnt catch any but I had two take the frog and bend me all up and around before spitting the frog out. These fish literally made me muscle up and they were still beating me. One made me jam my rod in my chest to get leverage. They were huge fish.
Point to my story is that fishing from a raider has greatly enhanced my fishing skills. Fishing from a boat is a lot different than from land but the opportunities are def. there. Neither of us had caught one fish in that place before. In reality, there are some monsters that are now within range in the raider!
Docktercolin reply :
I have been watching this thread for awhile since picked up my bass raider 10e and all the ideas on here are great. Thought I would share a pic or two of my rig with the new floor. The floor is made from .25 luan plywood with .5 inch cleats that fit in the ribs in the floor. I covered the ply with a single layer of fiberglass mat then some cheap indoor/outdoor carpet from HD. The floor feels really good under foot and doesnt move around at all.
bighoss reply :
On 5/5/2012 at 9:00 PM, Docktercolin said:I have been watching this thread for awhile since picked up my bass raider 10e and all the ideas on here are great. Thought I would share a pic or two of my rig with the new floor. The floor is made from .25 luan plywood with .5 inch cleats that fit in the ribs in the floor. I covered the ply with a single layer of fiberglass mat then some cheap indoor/outdoor carpet from HD. The floor feels really good under foot and doesnt move around at all.
How much did this floor project cost you? Also, where did you find the .5 cleats? And what configuration did you mount them in on the underside?
I'm very interested in how you did this.. I was brainstorming about how to do a floor in mine as well.
Docktercolin reply :
All in all it would probaby cost about seventy bucks. I allready had a gallon of resin. the cleats are just half inch plywood cut into three quater inch strips. If i remember right I cut them nine inches so the center channel would be clear to drain any water and i'd have a place to run my wires. I laid down the cleats in the channel and used a straight edge to make sure i wasn't going to hit plastic. I only had one inch drywall screws so I just got them started then pulled the floor out and tightened them up. Used a grinder to cut the extra off the screws. The best thing about using the quarter inch ply and fiberglass is at the most I have only added 10-15 pounds.
vizslahunter21 reply :
I've been following this topic for a few months now and finally found a Bass Raider 10E on craiglist. I was able to purchase the boat, trolling motor (Endura 30), Fishfinder (Bottomline 2235?), 2 expandable oars, 2 mushroom anchors for $500.00. It was a little more then I wanted to spend, however the boat is in fantastic shape and they are very hard to find out here in SoCal.
My question is which battery should I buy? I went to Walmart and they have several versions, can someone help me narrow down my choices?
Thanks in advance for your help!!
Bryan
bighoss reply :
I'm going through this myself right now. Just bought the same boat last week, working on trying to track down a nice battery for a good price. After some research locally in Central Ohio area, I came across this little gem: Duralast 685 @ my local Autozone for 87.99. 140 RC coming in about $40.00 cheaper than Bass Pro's "wet" offering.
Some say that the Walmart's deep cycle is another way to go: Everstart Maxx 29 - Don't hold me to this, but I'm thinking these can be had for sub $100 and are made by Johnson Controls. (Good product) & 12 month replacement warranty
Lastly, you should know I'm very new to this. Don't take my word as an authority on the issue, just someone that's in the same boat as you.. looking for a great battery on a budget.
EDIT: 12 month replacement on the Walmart offering, not 24 months like I previously stated. Sorry :/
jaaron01 reply :
I'll tell you I got the Everstart Maxx 29, and never had a problem with it. Think I paid like 79.00 for it at walmart. Biggest thing with these batteries is don't run them down and let them sit a long time. Soon as I get off the water, I hook that thing up to the charger and get'her charging. Lead Acid batteries don't like being run down and left in that condition. Put a charge on it as soon as your done, and your battery will last much longer.
Defreshone reply :
I have the evermaxx 29 from walmart and it's a beast. I used it all this past weekend and it was still running just as strong. 3-4 hours Friday, 4-5 hours Saturday and the same on sunday. I do suggest hooking it after using it to charge.
mtdoramike reply :
I got one of the Walmart Everstart batteriesfor $68.00 from my local Walmart about a month ago. But be aware to check the fluid level on your new battery. I charged mine and ran it a couple of times and then decided to check. The fluid level in the NEW battery was LOW. So I had to add water to it.
Morgan44 reply :
I have a 10e, and got a 29 battery from SAMs. It's a Duracell brand and it really kicks butt so far. I think it's like 85 bones. I also bought a minn Kota 10 amp charger and it is too easy. I Got a minn kota traxxis 55 pound thrust trolling motor and Fabbed a rudder up ( a must have in my opinion). I'm looking into fish finders now, what are you guys using on these boats?
bighoss reply :
I'm thinking of grabbing this depth finder.. Humminbird 570 PT DI
It's 250.00 from Walmart site to store or shipped directly to your house. The reason this one interests me so much is the rechargeable 12v 7aH battery system that comes with it & it's portable. Also, I want to study the ground underwater "structure" in my local areas, so I can make informed decisions where the fish might be.
Actually, that last part is the most important to me.. this thing has double or sometimes triple the pixels on the screen as the others in the sub to 100.00 category. Check out the Pirannamax series and see how the floor looks with those pixels.. the difference is night & day.
I am interested in what others are using as well. I'm primarily in the market for something "best bang for the buck" but the down imaging of this unit looks really helpful.
bighoss reply :
Where would someone buy a rudder for this boat? I'm not really interested in making one. I would like to have a style like the Buster boats use or like dman posted. Something with a couple bolts that can tighten down real good on the transom (my troller is up front already)
jaaron01 reply :
On the Rudder, Just google it. Try "bass hunter+rudder", you'll find plenty of places that will take your money. There was a company that was selling them, and it's posted several pages back, but they were expensive for what you get. I think like 60-70 bucks, and I invested $20.00 in mine but I made it.
jaaron01 reply :
On 5/14/2012 at 10:48 AM, Morgan44 said:I have a 10e, and got a 29 battery from SAMs. It's a Duracell brand and it really kicks butt so far. I think it's like 85 bones. I also bought a minn Kota 10 amp charger and it is too easy. I Got a minn kota traxxis 55 pound thrust trolling motor and Fabbed a rudder up ( a must have in my opinion). I'm looking into fish finders now, what are you guys using on these boats?
I bought the 110 Fishin buddy from walmart. Use it every trip, and batteries are still going. Gives the water temp, and marks underwater structure. Perfect for what I wanted. I didn't need to see how many scales the fish has on each side, or the color of his eyes. I use mine to find ledges, and changes in depth, and it works perfectly. Think it was like 109.00 at Wally World.
With Fish finders you can spend as much as your little heart desires, but is it really worth it?
dman reply :
Buster boats used to make the rudders, i guess they are no longer in business. They were expensive ($65) , but worth it now that i have one. very well made. Im gonna check with a local machine shop to see if they can duplicate a few for me ( is that legal?) and make them available to guys that need one because i cant find any online. They make the boat so much more enjoyable and usable.
bighoss reply :
On 5/14/2012 at 10:08 PM, jaaron01 said:On the Rudder, Just google it. Try "bass hunter+rudder", you'll find plenty of places that will take your money. There was a company that was selling them, and it's posted several pages back, but they were expensive for what you get. I think like 60-70 bucks, and I invested $20.00 in mine but I made it.
I'm pretty handy with Google
I wouldn't have posted help here for the rudder if I hadn't at least already checked Google, wouldn't you think? 
Bass Hunter is apparently out of business.. I don't mind paying the $$ to buy one if someone is able to lend a good lead on where to track one down.
I don't want to make one.
bighoss reply :
On 5/14/2012 at 10:12 PM, jaaron01 said:I bought the 110 Fishin buddy from walmart. Use it every trip, and batteries are still going. Gives the water temp, and marks underwater structure. Perfect for what I wanted. I didn't need to see how many scales the fish has on each side, or the color of his eyes. I use mine to find ledges, and changes in depth, and it works perfectly. Think it was like 109.00 at Wally World.
With Fish finders you can spend as much as your little heart desires, but is it really worth it?
I'm not really interested in the scales or the color of the eyes myself. What I am interested in, is seeing more detail than a 100.00 unit and was looking for others to chime in with their experiences with the mid range units. I appreciate the deal you got, and very happy that it's working out for you. I'm leaning towards yes on it's worth it for as much as your budget will allow. I can see the DI & GPS proving to be very handy features, especially if I upgrade my boat down the line (can always take it with me)
bighoss reply :
On 5/14/2012 at 10:16 PM, dman said:Buster boats used to make the rudders, i guess they are no longer in business. They were expensive ($65) , but worth it now that i have one. very well made. Im gonna check with a local machine shop to see if they can duplicate a few for me ( is that legal?) and make them available to guys that need one because i cant find any online. They make the boat so much more enjoyable and usable.
(Sorry to the reply, this should have been a multi-quote in retrospect)
Thanks dman for the PM on the rudder, and that would be fantastic if you're able to track down someone that can make a replica of the you bought (or able to locate one online) I have had ZERO luck finding any company, ebay or craigslist for one of these so far.
Morgan44 reply :
What about plugs or holes in the bottom of your pelicans? The rain filling up the middle off it is driving me nuts. I'm wondering what I can use to seal it if I were to drill something in. What do you guys got?
mmaveal@yahoo.com reply :
Greetings all,
I'm new to this site. Heard about it through Crappie.com. I just picked up a used 10' Bass Raider with a 30# Minn Kota and a Lowrance fish finder. . I'm interested in the idea of mounting oars so I can use it like a drift boat in the river. I have this idea of building a box to hold the battery under the seat and extending it out both sides so I can mount oars and oarlocks into the box. Anyone ever us oars on one of these? I was told that paddles do not work. I can't imagine why oars would not but we'll see. I post pics as soon as I get it set up. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
LowBudget Maveal
Romans 10:9-10
jaaron01 reply :
On 5/17/2012 at 8:28 AM, Morgan44 said:What about plugs or holes in the bottom of your pelicans? The rain filling up the middle off it is driving me nuts. I'm wondering what I can use to seal it if I were to drill something in. What do you guys got?
Me personally, I wouldn't drill a hole in your boat floor. I bought a cover for mine, and seems to work well. I have had 1 time were 70 mph winds got up underneath it and put some water in there, but I just got the wife's floor mop out and used it to clean up the water.
jaaron01 reply :
On 5/17/2012 at 10:54 PM, mmaveal@yahoo.com said:Greetings all,
I'm new to this site. Heard about it through Crappie.com. I just picked up a used 10' Bass Raider with a 30# Minn Kota and a Lowrance fish finder. . I'm interested in the idea of mounting oars so I can use it like a drift boat in the river. I have this idea of building a box to hold the battery under the seat and extending it out both sides so I can mount oars and oarlocks into the box. Anyone ever us oars on one of these? I was told that paddles do not work. I can't imagine why oars would not but we'll see. I post pics as soon as I get it set up. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
LowBudget Maveal
Romans 10:9-10
Only problem would be securing your seat, so you can get leverage to row you boat. If your seats are stationary it sounds like it would work, but mine slide back and forth. As for paddles not working, I've got the 8ftr, and my paddle works, but much nicer with the trolling motor.
jeffo21 reply :
I bought a tarp and tie down straps to cover mine so the weather doesnt get to my boat. the sun is worse than rain on these little boats. also for all those out there wondering where to buy them I just got my lastest bass pro sale paper and i see that they had the bass raider 10 e in it now.
Bill Porter reply :
BEST INVESTMENT I EVER MADE!
BASS RAIDER 10e (THE KHAKI ONE IS MINE!)
Bill Porter reply :
FLOOR I BUILT... PLYWOOD COVERED WITH INDOOR/OUTDOOR CARPET (TOTAL INVESTMENT 40 BUCKS)
HIDDEN COMPARTMENT
Bill Porter reply :
ADDING THESE BUNGEE TIE DOWNS COME IN HANDY FOR HOLDING RODS, SEATS, AND PADDLES SECURE!
Bill Porter reply :
GET THIS THING DIRTY ALREADY!
bighoss reply :
Looks very nice!
I like the idea of the tie downs, what are they connected to on the outside of the boat? The lip? Don't they slide around?
That khaki color looks very nice.
Bill Porter reply :
Big Hoss thanks! Yea they just grip the lip and don't move at all. As you can see I use the thick plastic bungees (4 dollars for a tub of them at walmart) and they work great. I was surprised how well they gripped. You have to actually use some force to make them slide... Definitely recommend trying them out!
TeamMonroe reply :
has anyone put cleats on one to tie off with, and where?
badsters reply :
On 5/21/2012 at 10:44 AM, Bill Porter said:ADDING THESE BUNGEE TIE DOWNS COME IN HANDY FOR HOLDING RODS, SEATS, AND PADDLES SECURE!
This looks awesome, Can you tell us the dimensions of the plywood you used? Length vs width? Also was it 1/2 plywood?
Great job, and nice rod holders...
Bill Porter reply :
On 5/26/2012 at 3:44 AM, badsters said:This looks awesome, Can you tell us the dimensions of the plywood you used? Length vs width? Also was it 1/2 plywood?
Great job, and nice rod holders...
The length is 91 1/4 in
The Width is 21 1/8
For the "hidden compartment" lid just cut out a template with some cardboard to get your angles. This isn't a must but does give it a clean look. The plywood is 3/8 I believe, remember this adds WEIGHT to your vessel and weight is your enemy in these things especially if you have to drag or carry it a ways. Get the lightest, strongest plywood you can. It was very easy to install the carpet just go to Lowes get them to cut you out a sheet of carpet from their wheel and staple that bad boy onto the plywood. The screw eye's are medium 1-5/16 in. that I use for the tie downs. I DO NOT recommend putting any type of holes in your boat ANYWHERE! These simply screw into the plywood. A little bit goes a long way in these things and can make life much easier on you. I encourage everyone to post pics and keep the ideas rolling in!
mudturtlle reply :
The floor looks nice.Just wondering how you get the water out from under it when you are on the lake fishing and starts to rain or if it is raining on the way to the lake.I was headed to the lake which was about a 20 minute drive and ran thru a big rain.When I backed down to the lake the water that came to the back of the boat was about 3in. deep.I took a cup and dipped out all I could.
Jim McC reply :
I put a floor in my 8 footer, and used the indoor/outdoor carpet from Home Depot. I used 1/4" plywood that I had lying around and I haven't had any problems at all, and I weigh about 225. As far as water, I just pull out the floor and tilt the boat. I doubt the floor weighs more than 15 lbs.
SouthrnMisnomer reply :
Love this thread, can someone start a post your bass raider/bass buggy/pond stomper thread.. i've been thinking about one of these silent bass assassins. Also, how well do these bad boys fit in the back of a little pickup truck?
Jim McC reply :
It depends on the size of your bed. The Bass Raider is 8' long and a little less than 4' wide.
jaaron01 reply :
Okay got a question. I started with a MK Endura C2 34lbs thrust TM, for my 8ft coleman. Thinking of upgrading to a heavier version. I normally fish by myself, in which case the 34 does okay, if the wind isn't blowing. But with 2 adults, the results are less than satisfying. I can get a Endura 45 from cabela's for like 219.00, but then the 50lb is only $16.00 more at $234.00. Both have a mail in rebate, but I just can't decide on which to go with, or if it's worth it.
Anyone want to share there thoughts?
Bassin_0502 reply :
For 16 bucks, I get the 50.
jaaron01 reply :
On 5/30/2012 at 4:23 AM, Bassin_0502 said:For 16 bucks, I get the 50.
Wonder what kind of damage that will have on my 29 series deep marine battery? Not that I would be running it on high all the time, but still.
Bassin_0502 reply :
I wouldn't think it would cause any 'lasting' damage at all if that's what you mean. Sure the life will be affected slightly, but no 'damage'.
jaaron01 reply :
On 5/30/2012 at 4:38 AM, Bassin_0502 said:I wouldn't think it would cause any 'lasting' damage at all if that's what you mean. Sure the life will be affected slightly, but no 'damage'.
Yeah, I was wondering the effect on battery life while fishing.
TeamMonroe reply :
Ok does the big foot switch have 2 settings? Just asking, I installed one this morning and only has only an off and on. The package said it had to settings.....hum
Morgan44 reply :
I went with a minn Kota Traxiss 55 pound. It's more expensive but the variable speed with it mounted up front, it's amazing the battery life I get. I stay out for 9 hours some days and still have 2/3 battery left. My 29 battery came from SAMs. Its a Duracell brand made by penn manufacturing.
Morgan44 reply :
Also I think the charger for your battery is important. I got the minn Kota 10 amp. Everything together is a great combination.
mikeadams reply :
On 5/31/2012 at 6:37 AM, TeamMonroe said:Ok does the big foot switch have 2 settings? Just asking, I installed one this morning and only has only an off and on. The package said it had to settings.....hum
I think they just mean you can turn it on with your foot pushing the button or by pulling that bar up over the button so it stays on all the time.
dman reply :
On 5/31/2012 at 9:41 PM, mikeadams said:I think they just mean you can turn it on with your foot pushing the button or by pulling that bar up over the button so it stays on all the time.
how does this get installed ? i was looking at it and looks like it has 2 cables (?) I thought you only had to wire into the negative trolling motor wire or does it have to run to the battery as well?
TeamMonroe reply :
On 5/31/2012 at 10:27 PM, dman said:how does this get installed ? i was looking at it and looks like it has 2 cables (?) I thought you only had to wire into the negative trolling motor wire or does it have to run to the battery as well?
Yeah, that's pretty much it, just wire in the neg side and screw it down.
Thanks, I thought that's all it was to it, can't wait to try it out, gonna beat bending over all the time.
dman reply :
On 5/31/2012 at 11:35 PM, TeamMonroe said:Yeah, that's pretty much it, just wire in the neg side and screw it down.
Thanks, I thought that's all it was to it, can't wait to try it out, gonna beat bending over all the time.
Hey TeamMonroe, thanks for the reply....im still confused though, lol wire both cables from the Big Foot into the trolling motor negative ?
TeamMonroe reply :
On 5/31/2012 at 11:51 PM, dman said:Hey TeamMonroe, thanks for the reply....im still confused though, lol wire both cables from the Big Foot into the trolling motor negative ?
I just cut the TM neg wire and connected the BF switch in between where i cut neg wire. easy took all of a minute. just put black tape or heat shirk over the butt connectors to keep water out.
dman reply :
On 6/1/2012 at 12:39 AM, TeamMonroe said:I just cut the TM neg wire and connected the BF switch in between where i cut neg wire. easy took all of a minute. just put black tape or heat shirk over the butt connectors to keep water out.
thanks buddy !
jaaron01 reply :
So went to BassPro yesturday and got the "Bigfoot" switch, and let me tell you, if you don't have one, you should get one. Best $17.00 investment you can make for these little boats. Someone was saying the wires were only like 16 inches long, but mine were closer to 30' long. Added a floor last weekend with some indoor/outdoor carpet, and 5/8 marine ply. Didn't really need it, but it does make the floor seem more solid.
Also got a Battery Tray and mounted it under the rear seat, so the guy in the back has more room and no more lifting the battery in and out. Was afraid before that i would it the brakes and she'd slide through the boat, but it's strapped down now. Even though my boat is only an 8ft'r, you can get two adults in there with comfort. It's close quarters, and only 1 rod and tackle box a piece, but that's enough gear.
Also a photo of the Rig hooked up to the van, and at the lake. The trailer is a godsend, for sure. You can see in the Photo of the boat on the trailer, were the waterline is at on the boat as i had just pulled her out of the lake. I don't know why but my boat seems to set high off the water, which is a good thing i think. Seen a pond prowler today and looked like it was about 8 inches above the water, and mine sets almost a foot above the water. 
dman reply :
Jaaron, nice setup...Brilliant idea with the battery
TeamMonroe reply :
yea, really liking the BigFoot, it is a must.
jaaron01 reply :
Yeah the switch is very nice. Now if I can just get me a pedistal stand for the front seat, I'll be in business. I normally fish alone, so I thought just 1 pedistal in the front, and leave the back seat alone for ride alongs.
jaaron01 reply :
Curious is anyone has rigged up some type of Bimini top for one of these little boats. I know about the Boat Seat Umbrellas they sell, but haven't heard really good things about them. I would like some type of topper to put on this thing for the summer time when it's burning hot. Thought I'd ask the question.
ARH4AU reply :
They offer one on most of the Mini Paddle Boats that I suppose you could find a way to adapt. For me it would just be in my way when trying to fish. The seat attached umbrellas seem less in the way but they cost about as much as my Boat,LOL.On 6/5/2012 at 4:57 AM, jaaron01 said:Curious is anyone has rigged up some type of Bimini top for one of these little boats. I know about the Boat Seat Umbrellas they sell, but haven't heard really good things about them. I would like some type of topper to put on this thing for the summer time when it's burning hot. Thought I'd ask the question.
tnriverluver reply :
First post and just signed up. I think a bimini top would make these small boats almost uncontrollable. I just recently purchased a Bass Hunter Baby bass and just tried the umbrellas on my 15 foot flatbottom. A 15 mph wind easily turned my boat into a sailboat LOL with just one umbrella. I would imagine a bimini off any size in the slightest breeze would really scoot these plastic boats. I do plan to try out the umbrella on my Basshunter some day though as they really help on hot sunny days. Just needs to be a calm summer day.
ARH4AU reply :
I have the 7" Marine Raider pedestals on mine and they are perfect, BTW I'm 6'2" as a reference.On 6/5/2012 at 4:57 AM, jaaron01 said:Curious is anyone has rigged up some type of Bimini top for one of these little boats. I know about the Boat Seat Umbrellas they sell, but haven't heard really good things about them. I would like some type of topper to put on this thing for the summer time when it's burning hot. Thought I'd ask the question.
jaaron01 reply :
Went to walmart and got the Pedistal Base and Pole, got those mounted on a block, now just need the seat base and I'm in business. I'll post a couple photos later today. Raises the seat by about 6 inches, and no more knocking your shins off when you need to turn around. Like I said before I'm only doing the front seat as I'm alone most times, and the back seat has the battery under it.
ARH4AU reply :
OK, you used a base and pole type. I used a post type. The one I used bolts directly to the base and to the seat using the factory swivel mechanism. It offers no adjustment but is rock solid and it was $12.99. 
jaaron01 reply :
Yeah I went with the pole mount inorder to get away from the bench type seat bracket. I"m tired of swinging around to get something, and banging my leg against the seat bracket. I'll get some Lag bolts this evening and get this thing screwed in to the flooring.
BamaBassChaser reply :
http://bham.craigslist.org/boa/3056942184.html
What do you guys think about this one? I really don't know anything about these boats but after reading this entire thread I think I've found my next project . The one in the link looks a little rough but it could just be cosmetic. Would you even bother going to take a look? Thanks for any info.
jaaron01 reply :
On 6/7/2012 at 5:55 AM, BamaBassChaser said:http://bham.craigsli...3056942184.html
What do you guys think about this one? I really don't know anything about these boats but after reading this entire thread I think I've found my next project
Well I'll be honest with you, it looks a little faded, which might mean it's been left out in the sun a lot. The worst enemy to these little boats is the sun and other elements. I only keep mine outside during the summer on the trailer, and under a canopy in the shade. During the winter time, I unload everything, and carry the entire boat down into the basement for storage and modifications, with the help of my future son-in-law.
I'd at least take a look if it wasn't much of a trip, but check it out really good. They will float even with a hole in them, due to the foam inside them, but again they weight a ton. There's several different versions of these boats out there, so you can find a new one for around $500.00 and get a warrenty. Another thing, check you local water regulations about registration and titles. In nebraska it's a pain to register boats without paperwork, and even worse if you get a trailer.
ARH4AU reply :
Looks OK in the ad. You can get a new 8" Pelican at Academy for $399. They also offer the 10' version for $499.On 6/7/2012 at 5:55 AM, BamaBassChaser said:http://bham.craigsli...3056942184.html
What do you guys think about this one? I really don't know anything about these boats but after reading this entire thread I think I've found my next project
BamaBassChaser reply :
Thanks for the replies! I didn't realize Academy had them that cheap.
jaaron01 reply :
Bolted everything down to the Boat floor, and now all I need is the seat mount bracket. Walmart was out, and I didn't want to drive over to Basspro tonight so Friday I'll finish her off. Used 4- 3 inch Lag bolts to hold my base to the floor, then 6-2 in lags to mount the metal base to the wooden base i built and covered. That was the worst part of the job, having to remove the battery and then the floor to get those bottom bolts in there, but it'll be worth it.
Jim McC reply :
Looks nice. I just removed the plastic seat it came with, and replaced it with a pedestal base. I bolted the pedestal base to the frame using the original U-bolts that were used with the plastic seats. Worked great. This way I can use the same seats in my other boat also.
dman reply :
On 6/7/2012 at 12:47 PM, Jim McC said:Looks nice. I just removed the plastic seat it came with, and replaced it with a pedestal base and pedestal. I bolted the pedestal base to the frame using the original U-bolts that were used with the plastic seats. Worked great.
Have a pic of this setup?
mtdoramike reply :
On 6/7/2012 at 5:55 AM, BamaBassChaser said:http://bham.craigsli...3056942184.html
What do you guys think about this one? I really don't know anything about these boats but after reading this entire thread I think I've found my next project
For $200.00 I would be all over it faded or not. The questions to me would be is there a clear title & registration? Also how much wear is on the bottom of the boat, which is where the problem would be if there is a leak. The main issue with a lot of these boats is wear on the bottom from being dragged across shells, rocks and just normal sand. I recently bought a Bass Raider which was in like new condition and had only been in the water a couple of times. I didn't take time to flip the boat over before I bought it. Well, come to find out the boat was from Virginia, where the owner had used it a couple of time ON A RIVER! The river rocks had put some significant scrapes on the bottom of the boat. Fortunately none had penetrated the first layer of plastic. I paid $550.00 for the whole package, boat, motor, battery, and a ton of other stuff. But had I looked at the bottom before hand, I would have asked for a better price.
It just goes to show that outward appearance isn't all that important.
Jim McC reply :
On 6/7/2012 at 8:33 PM, dman said:Have a pic of this setup?
Sorry, but I don't know how to post a pic. Do you want a pic because you can't picture how I did it? It's very simple once you get the old seat off. I used the pedestal base with the 3/4" pin hole design. It bolts to the seat frame with the original u-bolts.
dman reply :
On 6/8/2012 at 3:30 AM, Jim McC said:Sorry, but I don't know how to post a pic. Do you want a pic because you can't picture how I did it? It's very simple once you get the old seat off. I used the pedestal base with the 3/4" pin hole design. It bolts to the seat frame with the original u-bolts.
yea, i was just hoping to see it to get a good idea, im not too handy with tools and whatever the hell U-bolts are lol
Zoff reply :
Sorry if this has already been posted...
https://www.facebook.com/groups/373982569326768/
Jim McC reply :
On 6/8/2012 at 4:10 AM, dman said:yea, i was just hoping to see it to get a good idea, im not too handy with tools and whatever the hell U-bolts are lol
The U-bolts are already under the seat, holding the plastic seat to the seat frame. You don't need to buy any.
jaaron01 reply :
Got the Seat base tonight from Bass Pro and installed the seat. This plate has a 3 degree tilt to it, so the seat looks like it tilts back a little. (it's supposed to) Also while I was at it I went ahead and fixed up my Fish Finder Mount, and got the Gray Spray Paint and painted that mount and the piece I'd cut for the trolling motor.
Also was online today and found a manual for my boat. They were talking about condensation building up inside the boat and how to drain it. They said stand it up on its' bow and pull the plug. After almost 1 year, I finally figured out what that little black knob on the front of the boat was. Never crossed my mind it was a plug (see below). Learn something new every day.
One thing i did do was remove the spring from the bottom of the seat plate, as at a 170 lbs I didn't even begin to compress that thing, and it made the seat about 2 inches taller than it needed to be.
mtdoramike reply :
My god you guys love to dd a lot of extra weight to your boats.
mtdoramike reply :
To me, lighter is better.
Jim McC reply :
The only thing I added to mine is 1/4" luan plywood for the floor. I doubt it weighs more than 20 lbs.
bighoss reply :
Okay, it's been awhile since I've last posted an update. Basically this project is about 90% done. I found a homemade trailer I bought for $300 to haul around my boat in. Put a new harness, bearings, wheels/rims & paint. In the end, I decided I needed some storage, so I built a front end out of wood to hold a TSC black diamond plate truck box to store my 4-way, wheel chalks, tie downs, tools, etc.. etc... for the boat & trailer. I like the way it turned out. The trailer is about 5" 5" wide & 8ft long. I like how the boat slide in "under' the toolbox
Also, tossed in a picture of my battery I went with, along with my charger. Charger is a 15amp Schumacher "Ship & Shore" XCS15.
Plans in future include: Wood floor & 6" seat pedestals w/ higher backed seats. Also painting the wood frame the toolbox sit on to match the trailer
(I'm open to suggestions on a higher backed, comfortable seat - Keep in mind I'm a very large guy @ 300lbs)
Love the setup, sadly I've been working too much overtime at work at the moment to enjoy it. Although, that OT has helped me get the project done a lot quicker
MallardDrake reply :
Last year I went into Dicksportinggoods with my buddy, and the lady upfront greeted us with, "our boats outside are now 50% off the regular price." We looked at eachother and said oh no lady, you should not have said that. So we went to pay for it, and it was supposed to be $250 (half off 499). However, when they went to ring us up, they only charged $215 including tax for a Bass Raider 10E. Since we bought it in October 2011, I believe I have caught more fish than I had my whole life(24 years).
All that being said, reading on this forum and seeing all the different modifications has me salivating, and I have a few questions. I bought a 34lb MK TM, and a fish finder that I mounted using the TM transducer mount and a suction cup for the display. Is it "safe", or an even better thought, a "good idea" to drill holes in the boat? If so, do you just use some kinda a sealing glue to "leak-proof" it?
I have so many ideas for this boat its not even funny. One day, I would LOVE to go bowfishing off of it.
mtdoramike reply :
On 6/11/2012 at 12:11 AM, mtdoramike said:To me, lighter is better.
I'm a firm believer in that.
mtdoramike reply :
On 6/11/2012 at 3:37 AM, Jim McC said:The only thing I added to mine is 1/4" luan plywood for the floor. I doubt it weighs more than 20 lbs.
That would be the only addition that I would consider usefull to me. I will admit that during the summer, after 10:00am the floor can get down right hot on the bottom of my feet due to the sun shining down on the plastic flooring.
Jim McC reply :
On 6/11/2012 at 8:36 PM, mtdoramike said:That would be the only addition that I would consider usefull to me. I will admit that during the summer, after 10:00am the floor can get down right hot on the bottom of my feet due to the sun shining down on the plastic flooring.
I did it for the heat, and also the flat floor and carpet is much more comfortable on the feet. I'm normally barefoot in the nice weather. I had some scrap 1/4" luan and it worked out great, and I weigh about 225.
jaaron01 reply :
On 6/11/2012 at 12:10 AM, mtdoramike said:My god you guys love to dd a lot of extra weight to your boats.
With the 5/8 plywood floor and carpet I probably added about 50lbs to the weight. Of course when you got a trailer and can just back it into the water and shove her off, it's not noticeable. With my weight and a passenger were still not close to the max weight, and my boat rides extremely high in the water. Having added the pedistal seat, and no longer having to bang my knees into the chair braces, I don't know how I lived with it. I'll leave the back seat as it is, as I normally fish alone.
mtdoramike reply :
On 6/13/2012 at 2:06 AM, jaaron01 said:With the 5/8 plywood floor and carpet I probably added about 50lbs to the weight. Of course when you got a trailer and can just back it into the water and shove her off, it's not noticeable. With my weight and a passenger were still not close to the max weight, and my boat rides extremely high in the water. Having added the pedistal seat, and no longer having to bang my knees into the chair braces, I don't know how I lived with it. I'll leave the back seat as it is, as I normally fish alone.
When I bought my Bass Raider, the previous owner had installed like 7" seat risers. I hated them. I'm 5'10 and 225 pounds and my feet couldn't touch the floor of the boat, I felt like a child sitting in the seat. So those were the first things I removed from the boat.
mtdoramike reply :
On 6/12/2012 at 6:45 AM, Jim McC said:I did it for the heat, and also the flat floor and carpet is much more comfortable on the feet. I'm normally barefoot in the nice weather. I had some scrap 1/4" luan and it worked out great, and I weigh about 225.
I will look into putting down a layer of carpet over the floor just to have a barrier between the plasting floor and my bare feet.
jeffo21 reply :
mallard drake if ur looking for a good way to mount your transducer i have suggestion that i used. I had drilled holes in my raider but they wont hold good. I went to johnny ray sports they sell a mount that bolts to the tm shaft i used wing nuts on mine and take it off when i want now and its close enough and sturdy enough ur not gonna break it.
Jim McC reply :
On 6/13/2012 at 6:02 AM, mtdoramike said:I will look into putting down a layer of carpet over the floor just to have a barrier between the plasting floor and my bare feet.
That still won't get rid of the non-flat floor. The little elevated pieces of floor bothered me. I recommend you carpet over 1/4" plywood. I used 1/4" luan.
jaaron01 reply :
What size anchors are you guys using, and having good results with? I've had several occasions were I wished I'd had and anchor, but can't decide on what size/shape to get. Thought I'd ask others.
MallardDrake reply :
On 6/14/2012 at 12:42 AM, jaaron01 said:What size anchors are you guys using, and having good results with? I've had several occasions were I wished I'd had and anchor, but can't decide on what size/shape to get. Thought I'd ask others.
I use a 10lb mushroom with a 25' rope, but I hate it, the rope gets tangled and the mushroom brings up suit from the bottom. I'm looking for a new way to keep the rope out of my way and I'm thinking that 10lbs might be a bit much for the boat, but I'm not quite sure.
Jeffo, I mounted the transducer on the trolling motor with a transducer mount I picked up at Cabela's for 15 bucks, so I'm good there. I Just carpeted my boat and built a casting deck and am looking for a good deal on pedastal chairs.
Jim McC reply :
On 6/14/2012 at 12:42 AM, jaaron01 said:What size anchors are you guys using, and having good results with? I've had several occasions were I wished I'd had and anchor, but can't decide on what size/shape to get. Thought I'd ask others.
I use an 8 lb. navy type anchor, and it works well.
jaaron01 reply :
On 6/14/2012 at 9:03 AM, MallardDrake said:I use a 10lb mushroom with a 25' rope, but I hate it, the rope gets tangled and the mushroom brings up suit from the bottom. I'm looking for a new way to keep the rope out of my way and I'm thinking that 10lbs might be a bit much for the boat, but I'm not quite sure.
Jeffo, I mounted the transducer on the trolling motor with a transducer mount I picked up at Cabela's for 15 bucks, so I'm good there. I Just carpeted my boat and built a casting deck and am looking for a good deal on pedastal chairs.
Someone bought me a 8lb mushroom anchor, but I was thinking I needed a bigger 1. I'm heading to Cabela's tommorrow evening to exchange the one I got for something a little bigger, and that won't pull up the muck from the bottom into my boat.
As for the rope being tangled and in the way. I took a couple of small foldgers plastic coffee cans and mounted them in the corners of my boat. Drill a couple holes in the bottom of them so they don't fill will water, but that's what I keep all my ropes/lines in, so they aren't laying all over the floor. You can see 1 in this photo, and they work well.
Docktercolin reply :
There are so many great ideas on this thread, I don't know what to do next. Oh wait, yes I do. The rod straps or bungees on the sides has to be the best idea. The other day I had a fish on, turned my chair and kicked a $150 rig into the lake. Let that be a warning to every one who lays their extra rods on the side of the boat. Here is a pic of my little boat all ready to go.
bighoss reply :
On 6/17/2012 at 2:53 AM, Docktercolin said:There are so many great ideas on this thread, I don't know what to do next. Oh wait, yes I do. The rod straps or bungees on the sides has to be the best idea. The other day I had a fish on, turned my chair and kicked a $150 rig into the lake. Let that be a warning to every one who lays their extra rods on the side of the boat. Here is a pic of my little boat all ready to go.
How stable is that rear seat on the 6" mount? I was thinking of adding one to mine, also planning on upgrading my seats to these: http://www.walmart.com/ip/WISE-Big-Man-High-Back-Folding-Boat-Seat/10913401
Jim McC reply :
Why would you want the seat so high? I just replaced the standard plastic seat with one similiar to your link from Walmart, but I didn't elevate it with a pedestal. I just bolted the pedestal base to the seat frame.
BamaBassChaser reply :
On 6/17/2012 at 2:53 AM, Docktercolin said:There are so many great ideas on this thread, I don't know what to do next. Oh wait, yes I do. The rod straps or bungees on the sides has to be the best idea. The other day I had a fish on, turned my chair and kicked a $150 rig into the lake. Let that be a warning to every one who lays their extra rods on the side of the boat. Here is a pic of my little boat all ready to go.
What did you use to make the tackle tray?
jaaron01 reply :
On 6/18/2012 at 1:24 PM, Jim McC said:Why would you want the seat so high? I just replaced the standard plastic seat with one similiar to your link from Walmart, but I didn't elevate it with a pedestal. I just bolted the pedestal base to the seat frame.
I'm a short guy at 5'5, but with my boat the seats sat a little lower than I wanted, and sometimes would make my back hurt. Plus I felt like I didn't have any room in the boat, and things were always getting shoved under the seat. I went with pedistal seat to raise the seat, and make turning around much easier. I used the 11' pole, and went I got the seat mount that goes into the pole, I had to cut the spring out, cause it made the seatabout 2 inches to high for me. Once I cut the spring off the seat mount plate it was the perfect height.
One thing I will add is if you go with the Pedistal seat and are a bigger feller, use 3/4 preferable 1 inch marine ply for the floor. Your seat / pedistal will only be as firm as your floor is. 5/8 worked for me @ 170 lbs, but theres a little flex and if I was to do over I'll go with heavier plywood for the stiffness. Also for attaching the floor to the bottom of the boat, I didn't. I just cut the ply to fit the bottom of the boat and it just rests in there. It's heavy enough not to need attaching, and won't blow out going down the highway.
jaaron01 reply :
On 6/14/2012 at 10:44 AM, Jim McC said:I use an 8 lb. navy type anchor, and it works well.
I got the 10lb navy type anchor from cabela's. Works great now.
Docktercolin reply :
The seat riser works really well for me. I am six foot and the stock height made me feel like my knees were at my ears when my feet were on the sides. Didn't think I liked it at first but after changing it out and making one trip, back on it went. That riser is seven inches, it was all Wally world had. I think with a padded seat, seven inches would be way too tall. Another good thing about the riser is that when the wife is with me I can see over her head.
The bridge that I made is half inch PVC and left over quarter inch luan that I had left over from the floor project. It turned out pretty nice I think. Now I have a place to mount the fish finder and tackle at hand. I'll try to post a close up later.
Docktercolin reply :
here is a close up of the fish finder mount and tackle storage. All the wood parts were covered with fiberglass and I carpeted the top and inside of the tackle box compartment. If I were to do it again I would make some raised sides so i could store stuff like soft baits. It's really nice to have what you need right in front of you. I have five or six of the little boxes and just change them out depending on what i'm fishing for.
tnriverluver reply :
I may have missed it, but what is your tackle holder frame made out of PVC? Neat idea!
SouthrnMisnomer reply :
definitely a slick ideaOn 6/20/2012 at 3:50 AM, Docktercolin said:here is a close up of the fish finder mount and tackle storage. All the wood parts were covered with fiberglass and I carpeted the top and inside of the tackle box compartment. If I were to do it again I would make some raised sides so i could store stuff like soft baits. It's really nice to have what you need right in front of you. I have five or six of the little boxes and just change them out depending on what i'm fishing for.
BassZombie reply :
Im trying to decide between the Bass hunter EX $649, Bass Raider 10E $599, Uncle Buck Pond Prowler 10 $$$ 829 or the Standard Bass Raider 10 DLX for $499. Sooo much to choose from soooo little money lol
Leaning twords the standard Bass Raider 10 for 499
ARH4AU reply :
If you have an Academy Sports close try there. They advertised a Pelican 10 DLX for $499, but when I went to get one all they had were 10-E's and they were $499.On 6/20/2012 at 10:03 AM, BassZombie said:Im trying to decide between the Bass hunter EX $649, Bass Raider 10E $599, Uncle Buck Pond Prowler 10 $$$ 829 or the Standard Bass Raider 10 DLX for $499. Sooo much to choose from soooo little money lol
Leaning twords the standard Bass Raider 10 for 499
Docktercolin reply :
+1 on the E at academy $499. That's where I got mine.
TMax27 reply :
What's the difference between the Bass Raider 10E and 10DLX?
ARH4AU reply :
The 10-E has internal wiring from the rear of the boat to a pre-installed plug in front for Trolling Motor power.On 6/20/2012 at 9:08 PM, TMax27 said:What's the difference between the Bass Raider 10E and 10DLX?
ARH4AU reply :
I'm 6'+ and without the risers my knees felt like they were around my ears. With the 7" risers I have plenty of leg room and can turn around much more easily in the seat. It also makes it much easier to stand up from the higher position without unduly straining my old knees, LOL.On 6/18/2012 at 1:24 PM, Jim McC said:Why would you want the seat so high? I just replaced the standard plastic seat with one similiar to your link from Walmart, but I didn't elevate it with a pedestal. I just bolted the pedestal base to the seat frame.
jaaron01 reply :
I'm playing with the idea of shade for the boat, still. I know I've heard the "blow around like a sail boat" argument before. But I have this idea of using a Sports Brella. I was thinking of using one of the pedestal seat bases, and reverse mounting it with the 3/4 pole (that's supposed to slide into the pole) stick up, cut off the spring, and mounting it in the middle of the boat. Then find the correct size of PVC pipe that will fit over the pole and fit the umbrella handle to get it up to the correct height to sit under. Then all you need is a place on the front and rear of the boat for the side straps of the umbrella to tie to and it should hold firm, which a couple of C-clamps would work just fine.
Now if you "really" wanted to get high tech, you could use some kind of adjustable base like on the big Porch umbrellas, with the adjustable mount, so you can tilt the umbrella. Maybe even some kind of heavy duty fishing rod holder that can be adjusted to tilt.
If you put it high enough I don't think it will interfere with casting as much as you'd think. This umbrella is like 7 ft, and they make a 9 ftr as well. It gets hot out here on the lake, and this seems like a viable, and under $100 fix that should work. I watch "Swamp Men" on the TV and I've seen their set-up with just a flat tarp on top of the boat, and works for them catching gators.
I'm thinking the 7ft'r on the 8 foot boat would provide enough shade for a guy on either side of this thing. (see attached photo), plus it's height is already adjustable up to 80 inches, so might not even need a piece of PVC pipe, just put it over the reversed seat base.
fishcat reply :
Cabela's has the male plug for the Pelican bass raider trolling motor socket. Made by MarLan for $7.99.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Mar-Lan-Trolling-Motor-Receptacle-and-Plug/699976.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dtrolling%2Bmotor%2Bplug%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=trolling+motor+plug&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products
tnriverluver reply :
With the umbrellas I have on my Jon boat that are mounted to the seat you just have to cast sidearmed. They don't get in the way most of the time. If you stand up out from under the umbrella you really have to be careful when you rare back to throw overhanded not to catch the umbrella with the hooks. Didn't take long for me to find that one out
BassZombie reply :
Going to Academy to get my Bass Raider 10E tomorrow. And a tackle box. Maybe I'll hit the water Sunday.
Scott Salvi reply :
Looks like there is so much interest in these boats! I just picked up my fist boat...a Pelican Bass Raider 10. I put on a Minn Kota C50, 4hp Johnson outboard on the back, and a Humminbird fish/depth finder. Also replaced the seats with some nicer padded plastic seats with swivels from Wal-Mart. Adding a live well this week! (homemade from a cooler). Pics are coming. I was thinking of starting a whole forum dedicated to these small plastic boats? What do you guys think?
Richard Arndt reply :
Hello all. Great thread you've got going here!
Just bought at Pellican Bass Raider 10, and getting ready to purchase a trolling motor for it. Any recommendations?
I'll be using it on a 190 acre freshwater lake. Most day's it'll be two, 200 lb fishermen + gear aboard.
I'm considering a Minn Kota 30 lb thrust or a Minn Kota 50 lb thrust.
I'm trying to balance battery life vs power. Don't want to have the battery go dead in the middle of an outing.
Do I need the 50, or will the the 30 push her along at a decent speed?
Also, any recommendations on a battery?
Thanks!
Scott Salvi reply :
Richard I use the 50 and it pushes me and my buddy and our gear no probs all day on a single charge. I just bought a Johnson 4hp outboard, so I can go 3-5 days on one charge.
jaaron01 reply :
Go with the 50, I got a 34 with mine, and while it's "good" with me alone, throw a buddy in there and it sucks. I've been kickin myself ever since for not getting the 50. Before next fishing season I'll have a 50 on the front for sure.
Scott Salvi reply :
The 50 won't give you more speed, but it'll be better if you're loaded. Also, if you put it on the front, mine seems to pull better than it likes to push.
Richard Arndt reply :
Thanks for the advice guys!
ARH4AU reply :
I have a Minn Kota Traxxas 45 lb. on mine and I use a pair of Group 24 Everstart Marine Batteries. I easily kill one battery in a day of fishing watersheds in my 10-E. I can get by with one of my Group 34 Marine batteries but then I have to swap it in and out of my big boat so I just use the pair of 24's. IMO, the Traxxas is made for this boat, one hand deployment and return, super easy to adjust, the handle extends and also tilts up or down and if you want to it is easy to cut the shaft to whatever is your perfect length.
BassZombie reply :
I have the
Minn Kota® Endura C2 Transom-Mount Trolling Motor 36' shaft and I love it. I try to stay off speed 5 to try and save batt. life. But it will scoot pretty good when on speed 5.
I would got with atleast a 45. I got the 55 on sale at Dicks sporting goods for 179 with rebate.
fishcat reply :
A few more findings about the Bass Raider 8E. I love this boat. It weight about 85 pounds and I can easily get it into my small pickup by myself. I built a couple of "bunks" out of 2 x 6 lumber covered with I/O carpet so the boat sits up with the seam higher than the truck bed. Try to avoid the concrete ramps as they tear up the plastic. I use a 40 pound MK motor mounted on the front (turn the head around). Rarely run on #5 speed because it draws the battery twice as much as speed #4. The amp draw on the 5 speeds is 5, 10, 15, 20, 40. I built a rudder for the stern out of PVC pipe and an old metal licence plate; still working on the mount for that. I use the small Cabelas AGM battery because it weighs much less than the big ones. Still working on bungee or velcro to hold the extra rod along the gunwale.
mtdoramike reply :
I would love to see another forum for these boats. I use the Minn kota 55 on mine and it works great. But it's a heavy beast to load and unload and tote to the lake and back to the truck.
dominicd reply :
How long do these boat last? Do you guys think $300 for a really clean 2001 Bass Raider 10 is worth it? Should I just go for a new model which is almost 30lbs lighter?
Thanks
jaaron01 reply :
My little boat doing its job. Least we forget why were got these little fellows for.
timma reply :
im new here i have a 11' pelican predator. for a dolly i took a stand up hand truck gut it half and extended it with 2 10' pieces of aluminum conduit and then drilled holes through the conduit and handles and its now extendable to 11'and easily slides in the water and into the truck
timma reply :
the spray on bedliner will just peel after a few weeks it wont stick to the plastic . but you can use fiberglass repair bondo and it will last longer if you just put it in the high wear area also truck liner will at allot of weightOn 8/17/2010 at 5:49 AM, electricbass said:Has anyone done anything to the bottom of their boat. I was thinking about a paint on bed liner to keep it from getting all scratched up. I do my best to never drag it but it still happens sometimes. Anyway your thoughts on this would be great!!!
timma reply :
i have the same one and its a awesome boat i can stand and fish all day and never worry and im 275lb i have bluewater lights all around and mounted my wishfinder on top of trolling motor and tranducer on the bottom of tm make sure you build a rudder and to move it around get a hand dolly and cut the arms and extend 10' with conuit that way it sits on it likme a trailer and slides in and out of a truck bed with easeOn 3/6/2011 at 3:27 PM, BRIAN77703 said:here she is, still gotta rig her up though, let me know what you think. later fellas
Jim McC reply :
On 7/1/2012 at 2:22 AM, timma said:im new here i have a 11' pelican predator. for a dolly i took a stand up hand truck gut it half and extended it with 2 10' pieces of aluminum conduit and then drilled holes through the conduit and handles and its now extendable to 11'and easily slides in the water and into the truck
Any chance you can post a picture of the dolly?
bighoss reply :
On 7/1/2012 at 6:31 AM, Jim McC said:Any chance you can post a picture of the dolly?
+1
mtdoramike reply :
On 7/1/2012 at 2:22 AM, timma said:im new here i have a 11' pelican predator. for a dolly i took a stand up hand truck gut it half and extended it with 2 10' pieces of aluminum conduit and then drilled holes through the conduit and handles and its now extendable to 11'and easily slides in the water and into the truck
That sounds neat, could you post a picture of it?
Mike
mtdoramike reply :
On 6/30/2012 at 9:17 PM, dominicd said:How long do these boat last? Do you guys think $300 for a really clean 2001 Bass Raider 10 is worth it? Should I just go for a new model which is almost 30lbs lighter?
Thanks
If it has a clean title and very little wear on the bottom, which is the main issue with these plastic boats. Then I would offer $250.00-$275.00. If they are still stuck on the $300.00, then I would opt for a new one, which runs around $499.00.
timma reply :
I have pics on my I phone but have no idea how to post them
If somebody will give me a e-mail I can send them to post on here
SoFlaBassAddict reply :
On 7/2/2012 at 4:04 AM, timma said:I have pics on my I phone but have no idea how to post them
If somebody will give me a e-mail I can send them to post on here
The photobucket app. Makes it about as easy as it gets for the iPhone.
timma reply :
timma reply :
<a href="http://s466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/tharcrow08/?action=view¤t=a102f885.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/tharcrow08/a102f885.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a>boat sitting on it slides right in truck bed then slide right out with boat on it to water just like a big boat
Jim McC reply :
On 7/2/2012 at 9:46 PM, timma said:<a href="http://s466.photobuc...t=a102f885.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i466.photobuc...8/a102f885.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a>boat sitting on it slides right in truck bed then slide right out with boat on it to water just like a big boat
Nice job timma. If I used something like that with my 8' Bass Raider, I wouldn't be able to shut the tailgate of my mini van. With just the boat, I can shut the tailgate, which is nice.
tnriverluver reply :
Why I have to love my little baby bass hunter. Wheels built in!!!! This little boat is heavy for what it is however even empty.
mattyb91193 reply :
Alright. So I bought a pelican Bass Raider today. Im not sure how to register it though. It was previously registered by the guy in New Hampshire, and I am going to be needing one in New York. My issue is that there is nowhere on his new hampshire registration to transfer it over. Nowhere for him to sign over ownership. Am I missing something that I need? I do have the registration though.
Jim McC reply :
You will probably need a bill of sale in addition to the boat registration to transfer ownership to you. Just call your state's Fish And Game Dept. or whatever they call it there.
mtdoramike reply :
On 7/4/2012 at 8:48 AM, mattyb91193 said:Alright. So I bought a pelican Bass Raider today. Im not sure how to register it though. It was previously registered by the guy in New Hampshire, and I am going to be needing one in New York. My issue is that there is nowhere on his new hampshire registration to transfer it over. Nowhere for him to sign over ownership. Am I missing something that I need? I do have the registration though.
Registration won't do it. You must have a title.
mtdoramike reply :
I know in Florida, these boats come up all the time on Craigslist. But when you check with the owner, they never have the title. Here, we must have the title in hand, in our name in order to sell the boat to another person. Without the title, we would have to have the certificate of origin as well as a notarized statement from the previous owner as to how he came about ownership of the boat and a number of other hoops to jump through. Lets just say, without a title, you pretty much have an expensive lawn fixture.
badsters reply :
On 7/1/2012 at 9:31 PM, mtdoramike said:That sounds neat, could you post a picture of it?
Mike
I am a member of the Texas Fishing Forums, and there is a good thread started for Buster style boats.
Here are some pictures of a Dolly a friend built. He has built them with bike tires, also by finding a jogging stroller and using that too.
I bought some large L brackets and will build mine using a small bike I got off Craigslist, paid $5 for the bike and will be able to use the two tires.
http://texasfishingf...pics/7575229/20 Scroll down on this page and you can see what he has built. If you have time, start at the beginning of the topic and lots of great reading.
mattyb91193 reply :
On 7/4/2012 at 9:29 PM, mtdoramike said:I know in Florida, these boats come up all the time on Craigslist. But when you check with the owner, they never have the title. Here, we must have the title in hand, in our name in order to sell the boat to another person. Without the title, we would have to have the certificate of origin as well as a notarized statement from the previous owner as to how he came about ownership of the boat and a number of other hoops to jump through. Lets just say, without a title, you pretty much have an expensive lawn fixture.
On 7/4/2012 at 9:25 PM, mtdoramike said:Registration won't do it. You must have a title.
Well guess what, New Hampshire does not title boats. So a title for ANY boat in New Hampshire does not exist. And even in NY any boat under 14 ft doesnt have a title. So lets try again.
Scott Salvi reply :
MA doesn't need a title either...Bought mine in NH...no title. Just reg & Bill of sale...
timma reply :
On 7/3/2012 at 12:09 PM, Jim McC said:Nice job timma. If I used something like that with my 8' Bass Raider, I wouldn't be able to shut the tailgate of my mini van. With just the boat, I can shut the tailgate, which is nice.
timma reply :
The nice thing about mine is I can take the pins out and remove the aluminum tubes
mattyb91193 reply :
On 7/5/2012 at 12:20 AM, Scott Salvi said:MA doesn't need a title either...Bought mine in NH...no title. Just reg & Bill of sale...
Thank You Very much.
budpln reply :
just got a bass raider 10e i love the thing ive had it out a couple times nothing major just kinda took it out when i had a chance. it has a 36 lb min kota on it pushes it pretty good but im thinking i need some hp... i got a rediculas deal on it too!! boat with the motor two seats and a little trailer i can pull with my car 450 bucks it was a steal although i had to rebuild the minn kota motor.. and i painted the trailer i didnt have to but i wanted a fresh coat of paint on it.. so u guys have talked about accesories anywhere in mass that normal boats cant. somewhere i can go take mine and not be botherd by motor boats im in the north shore and would like to get out on the water where i dont have to worry about speed boats and that stuff just want to be alone..
budpln reply :
here is my setup
Jim McC reply :
GREAT deal. Is that a Harbor Freight trailer? It's weird seeing a trailer without a tongue.
budpln reply :
it has a tongue.. not sure what the model is i registerd it as a home made..
Scott Salvi reply :
may I suggest pulling that trolling motor up at least to the bottom of the boat when trailering. Dragging it will SUCK...On 7/6/2012 at 8:01 AM, budpln said:here is my setup
budpln reply :
yea i fold it up all the way so the motor is as high as it can go and the control lays into the boat..
badsters reply :
I got my Pelican 10e with title, and 2 deep cycle 1 yr old batteries for $180 (2008), Trailer was $90, 2 HP johnson motor titled, $70, and 30 lb trolling motor for $10.
Total cost = $350. In Texas, boats being propelled by gas or electric motors require titles, regardless of the size. Motors older than 1992 require titles, older motors are grand fathered in, unless they are sold, then titles are required.
I have a 16 ft deep V alumacraft, a 22 ft pontoon and a couple buster style boats, and i have as much fun in my busters as I do on the other boats. Love fishing small lakes north of Dallas, that do not allow gas motors,
dominicd reply :
What brand, size and type of batteries have you had success with on these little boats? I am having trouble deciding. I have a bass hunter ex with a 40lb minn kota endura to be used in small lakes.
Jim McC reply :
I use a Group 24 battery(Everstart from Walmart) and a 30 lb. Endura. That will be fine with your 40 lb. Endura also.
Tego reply :
I'm really happy with my Bass Raider 10e. I've had a LOT of fun taking it out in the evening. My problem is that we take it on three day camping trips and have concerns about running the battery down.
My question is is there a battery out there that will last a long time without charging? I have two motors. I have a Minnkota 30 lb thrust and a Minnkota 55 lb thrust. The 30 works fine, but the 55 gets you from point a to point b quicker. Would I be better off to use the 30 on camping trips? We camp in places where there is no electricity. Thanks.
tnriverluver reply :
A small 1000w generator and a battery charger are about your only option unless you can bring an extra set of batteries. If you are running 3 full days that is probably pushing it. Partial days a Walmart group 29 will do fine.
zachb34 reply :
I have a55lb thrust minn Kota and wanted to know how do you guys have it positioned in the water do you have it up high or low angled down up or even thanks
zachb34 reply :
I have a55lb thrust minn Kota and wanted to know how do you guys have it positioned in the water do you have it up high or low angled down up or even thanks
buffresources reply :
Anyone have a one man water scamp?...thought you might like to see my "boat collection"...consists of 2 one person water scamps 79" long and an 8ft pelican for bigger waters. I really like the one person since you can carry it and with a 30lb tm you can run all day.
The best part is I don't have a total of $500 wrapped in all of them.
SW Missouri seems to have a lot of cheap scamp/pelican/bass raiders of all lengths. The problem is titles...most don't have titles and unless you are buying from a non-title state like Kansas you must have a title in Missouri to run any boat with a motor. If you just paddle you don't have to but put a TM on it an its' a whole other ball game!
I was lucky to find one of the one person scamps with a title, the other is just a Bill of Sale, so no motoring with it!
Just a word to the wise if you are buying and using in Missouri!
dman reply :
My 8E ready for business
jaaron01 reply :
I have a 8ft'r myself, and wouldn't trade it for the world. Couple small lakes here in nebraska are so shallow in some parts that most ordinary boats can't even get into the head waters. I was out the other morning, and had pulled the trolling motor and rudder up and was just sculling through the weeds catching bass left and right. I noticed other big bass boats watching me but would even get close to were I was fishing.
When I put my oar down to see how deep I was, there was only about 8-10 inches of water beneath me and I was about 100 ft from the bank. Needless to say I was proud of my little boat, as I didn't even notice how shallow it was. Awesome feeling!!!!
Jim McC reply :
On 7/13/2012 at 9:58 PM, buffresources said:Anyone have a one man water scamp?...thought you might like to see my "boat collection"...consists of 2 one person water scamps 79" long and an 8ft pelican for bigger waters.
Who makes the Water Scamp? I never heard of it.
jeffo21 reply :
they were one of the first companies out there to make the small boats. I had a bantam 3x back in the 90's i loved that thing it had a livewell bewteen the 2 seats
mattyb91193 reply :
Alright, So I have a Bass Raider 10E, that I have been using to go fishing. I really like it. I have a Tohatsu 3.5 four stroke on the back. But with that I have one issue, it seems like too much power for the boat. Not speed wise, but it starts to bend the mount on the boat. I would say a good amount at even half throttle. It moves it along at half throttle, but I would love to be able to use all the power. lol. Is there any way that I could brace the back mount. Im sure there is somebody out there that has done it.
Thanks.
buffresources reply :
water scamp was made in SE Kansas...not sure of the years but I think ceased in the early/mid 1980s. A lot of them are still around...they made both one man and two man. Had real handles placed where they should be so you could lift them. The one person is great for small ponds since thye can be carried quite a long way due to the light weight.
we seem to have a lot of used one show up in the sw MO area...probably since they were made over in Kansas
mattyb91193 reply :
Come on, nobody knows of a way to brace the back motor mount in any way?
jaaron01 reply :
On 7/19/2012 at 3:37 AM, mattyb91193 said:Come on, nobody knows of a way to brace the back motor mount in any way?
I've never thought of putting an engine on the back of mine. Mainly because I sit up front in the boat and wouldnt want to be switching seats from running the motor to running the trolling motor. I'm just getting a bigger Trolling motor, to move a little faster. I have a 34lb now, but moving up to a 50lb in the fall/spring. I predict around Santa Claus time!!!1
Jim McC reply :
On 7/19/2012 at 3:37 AM, mattyb91193 said:Come on, nobody knows of a way to brace the back motor mount in any way?
I'm no engineer, but we're talking about a plastic boat here. If we were talking about bracing a material that doesn't flex, that would be different. I wouldn't exceed what Pelican says as far as gas outboard limit.
Scott Salvi reply :
I have no probs with a 4hp Johnson Seahorse...?
mattyb91193 reply :
On 7/19/2012 at 5:12 AM, Jim McC said:I'm no engineer, but we're talking about a plastic boat here. If we were talking about bracing a material that doesn't flex, that would be different. I wouldn't exceed what Pelican says as far as gas outboard limit.
Im no Engineer either, but I am halfway to my bachelors in an engineering degree. So im gonna tell you that it CAN be done. All I want to do is stiffen up the motor mount, as it is a plastic boat, and yes it does bend. I would prefer it did not. Ill get it done. Ill let you know how it works out.
mattyb91193 reply :
On 7/19/2012 at 5:31 AM, Scott Salvi said:I have no probs with a 4hp Johnson Seahorse...?
I really dont have any problems with my Tohatsu 3.5 persay, but I just feel a little uncomfortable with it bending at the amount that it is right now. The top is staying where it is and not moving, but the bottom of the mount is bending inwards. the weak point.
Jim McC reply :
On 7/19/2012 at 8:53 AM, mattyb91193 said:Im no Engineer either, but I am halfway to my bachelors in an engineering degree. So im gonna tell you that it CAN be done. All I want to do is stiffen up the motor mount, as it is a plastic boat, and yes it does bend. I would prefer it did not. Ill get it done. Ill let you know how it works out.
Good luck. I don't know why you're asking then.
tnriverluver reply :
My suggestion is put down a plywood floor and run two pieces of metal as braces from the floor to the transom if it has a metal covered transom like my basshunter. Screwed into each plywood and transom of course. Should help a little at least.
mattyb91193 reply :
On 7/19/2012 at 9:40 AM, Jim McC said:Good luck. I don't know why you're asking then.
I am asking because this is a forum full of people who own the same boat. I was collecting data to see if anybody had any suggestions, and do a little brainstorming. This is how engineers formulate ideas, and make educated decisions.
Thats why I was asking.
ARH4AU reply :
I would have a metal saddle bent to fit over the transom plate to provide support on both sides for the motor to mount onto, then run braces as suggested to a full plywood floor.On 7/19/2012 at 9:51 AM, tnriverluver said:My suggestion is put down a plywood floor and run two pieces of metal as braces from the floor to the transom if it has a metal covered transom like my basshunter. Screwed into each plywood and transom of course. Should help a little at least.
mtdoramike reply :
If you want a speed boat, buy a speed boat. You have what you have so best to make do with it rather than taking the chance and screwing it up.
Scott Salvi reply :
a 3.5hp is hardly a "speed boat" motor...lol.
mattyb91193 reply :
Yeah Im not necessarily trying to make a speed boat. and when I drag race kayakers with my 3.5 I do win. But not sure I wanna enter any races anytime soon.
the boat is rated for a 3.5 but even that seems like it is too much power to the mount. in my opinion. it bends pretty good, but thats alright, ill still hold wide open full throttle. no big deal.
Scott Salvi reply :
On 7/22/2012 at 10:52 AM, mattyb91193 said:Yeah Im not necessarily trying to make a speed boat. and when I drag race kayakers with my 3.5 I do win. But not sure I wanna enter any races anytime soon.
the boat is rated for a 3.5 but even that seems like it is too much power to the mount. in my opinion. it bends pretty good, but thats alright, ill still hold wide open full throttle. no big deal.
Do you have a stainless plate over the transom? Mine came with one on the front too. With my 4HP, it doesn't flex...
backwater4 reply :
I've been thinking of getting the 10E model, but have a few questions. It seems fine for regular fishing with 2 people, but I'm thinking of joining a small boat club and would like to fish tournaments out of it. They would be on small lakes and ponds. My questions are:
Will it hold 2 people, 2 batteries, a cooler with pump (used as a livewell), trolling motor and gear?
Or would I be better of with a 10-12' aluminum jon boat?
Thanks.
tnriverluver reply :
A 10 to 12 foot jon boat will be much less stable and probably less load capacity unless you can find a wide bottom one. As an example my 8 ft Basshunter has a capacity of 475lbs. A 10 ft Tracker shows a capacity of 320lbs and their 12ft just 335lbs.
Scott Salvi reply :
I have no trouble with similar gear you mentioned. One Marine battery, a 4hp Johnson motor, Fish Saver in a cooler connected to a motorcycle battery too...
backwater4 reply :
Thanks for the info.
jeffo21 reply :
me and a buddy fish out of my 10E and it does real good not cramped at all and real stable. We have a battery n trolling motor n 2 tackle bags n cooler in mine at all times
backwater4 reply :
Great info, thanks.
MT2 reply :
I recently picked up a Pelican Bass Raider 8. Got some work to do to it, nothing major stuff like buying a battery, trolling motor, depth finder, rod straps etc.
I havent had it on the water yet, plan on getting it registered and a permit to fish a local lake next weeked. The guy I got it from said he stood in it and he's bigger than I so I hope it works for me. I dont think it'll be idea for bass fishing 2 people though, however I'll take my 6 year old to look for gills and cats.
Some friends and my fiance are trying to get me to paint it yellow & black. Its kinda planted a seed, but I doubt I do cos Im sure it'll look bad once it gets scratched up and we all know its going to get scratched. The reason for the colors is because of my use of Skeet Reese rods and my passion for the Iowa Buckeyes and Pittsburgh Steelers. Plus my oldest sons school colors are yellow & black.
mtdoramike reply :
Most paints will not stick to this plastic very well. So I would research it thoroughly first before making up your mind.
Scott Salvi reply :
OK I finally saw my transom flex...I know someone mentioned it earlier. I have a 4HP Johnson on the back and at full throttle the prop is under the boat! I'll have to dial it back a bit until I figure out how to reinforce that!
uhhello reply :
Finally had a bass raider show up on the local craigs list. Looks pretty good for a good price. Only issue is seating. I know some of you have made pedastal seating but i'd like something with a back. Anyone see any issues with making the seating work without the original frame?
http://valdosta.crai...3171593900.html
jaaron01 reply :
You could use Lawn Chairs like the add says, but you could also add a plywood floor and buy pedistal seats like I did on mine. My only worry would be it looks like it's been outside in the elements for a long time, and these boats don't due well left outside all year long. I bought myself a new one for like 450.00, and bring it indoors in the winter time. Other than that it's on the trailer and under a canopy when not in use.
Some folks don't care about the weathering, but I don't want a boat that weights a ton due to water inside the hull. It'll still float but will weight a ton. Are you using a trailer or loading it in the back of something?
My pedistal seat has a back on it, so not sure what your talking about on that one.
Richard Arndt reply :
On 8/7/2012 at 6:19 AM, uhhello said:Finally had a bass raider show up on the local craigs list. Looks pretty good for a good price. Only issue is seating. I know some of you have made pedastal seating but i'd like something with a back. Anyone see any issues with making the seating work without the original frame?
http://valdosta.crai...3171593900.html
I think that boat is way overpriced for the age and shape it's in. You're going to have to put a decent amount of work into it just to get seating that works. Lawn chairs aren't going to swivel, and they're not going to be secure. If you want to take on the project, I wouldn't give the guy more than 75 bucks, and I'd shoot for 50. Just my opinion.
Scott Salvi reply :
Seating is easy... 2x10's 1x2's and some 1/2 round trim...you can make benches that fit right into the factory groove. You can then mount a swivel seat to it from Walmart in the boat section...2 seats MAY cost you $50...tops... The boat does look a little weathered though. I'd offer him $150...take it or leave it.
Scott Salvi reply :
BTW, I have a bench made like **** to control my Johnson 4hp gas motor...the stock seats are way too high.
uhhello reply :
Yeah I wasn't going to offer him any more than $100 due to what you guys said above. Pictures can be deceiving though so I think I'm going to go take a look at it if it's still around when I get back into town on Friday. Headed to Disney World with the fam after being in Afghan and Kuwait quite a bit this past year. Looking forward to getting back to the fishing world
Jim McC reply :
It doesn't include seats or the original seat frames?
_Coelacanth_ reply :
Hello everyone. I am the proud owner of my first boat! I just bought a new Pelican Bass Raider 10e. I'm very excited to finally be able to get off the bank and do some fishing in areas I previously didn't have access to.
I do have a few questions about the trolling motor setup though...
I bought a Minn Kota Endura C2-40. For the battery, I was under the impression that I needed more cranking amps for longer use. I bought an Everstart 12V marine battery, which has 625 cranking amps. This seemed to be the best choice for the money I had left in my budget.
My question is in concern to the wiring setup on the Bass Raider. Do I need to add a circuit breaker to the pre-installed wiring on the boat? I have read that Minn Kota recommends a 60 amp breaker. Is this something I can pick up at Walmart or Bass Pro shops? Also, is the wire gauge that comes in the boat adequate?
Any tips/advise on finishing my setup would be appreciated, as I don't want to foul up either my new trolling motor or boat by making a dumb beginner mistake.
Thanks in advance for any help offered.
Jim McC reply :
On 8/9/2012 at 2:23 AM, _Coelacanth_ said:Hello everyone. I am the proud owner of my first boat! I just bought a new Pelican Bass Raider 10e. I'm very excited to finally be able to get off the bank and do some fishing in areas I previously didn't have access to.
I do have a few questions about the trolling motor setup though...
I bought a Minn Kota Endura C2-40. For the battery, I was under the impression that I needed more cranking amps for longer use. I bought an Everstart 12V marine battery, which has 625 cranking amps. This seemed to be the best choice for the money I had left in my budget.
My question is in concern to the wiring setup on the Bass Raider. Do I need to add a circuit breaker to the pre-installed wiring on the boat? I have read that Minn Kota recommends a 60 amp breaker. Is this something I can pick up at Walmart or Bass Pro shops? Also, is the wire gauge that comes in the boat adequate?
Any tips/advise on finishing my setup would be appreciated, as I don't want to foul up either my new trolling motor or boat by making a dumb beginner mistake.
Thanks in advance for any help offered.
That battery will be fine, as long as it's a deep cycle battery, and NOT a starting battery. The circuit breaker gets wired into the positive cable of the trolling motor, within 1 foot from the battery. Are you sure the manual says to use a 60 amp breaker for your 40 lb. motor? That sounds wrong. It should be a 40 or 50 amp breaker.
_Coelacanth_ reply :
Ah, you're right. 60 amp is for the 50-55# thrust. 30-45# thrust uses the 50 amp. Thanks!
The battery does say "starting" above the "Everstart" logo. I hadn't noticed that before. I will take it back and swap it.
jeffo21 reply :
what part of oklahoma do you live in? I also have a 10e and love fishing out of it
_Coelacanth_ reply :
I live in Choctaw.
I'm still trying to decide where I'm going to go for my first trip in my new boat. I was thinking about Wes Watkins, but I'm not sure yet. It's still going to be a couple of weeks before I take her out on her maiden voyage. I promised the Mrs. that I would finish the renovations to our house that I'm in the middle of before I took it out.
I wanted to go ahead and buy it though because I actually bought two. A close friend of mine, who is helping me with the work on the house is who I go fishing with. He doesn't have a boat either, so I bought him a 10e and the same trolling motor as a "thank you" for all the help he has given me.
I figured if I went ahead and bought it and told him about it, he would be extra motivated to help me get the renovations done faster!
jeffo21 reply :
LoL lucky guy. dont know where to tell you to go fishing around there.
backwater4 reply :
Honestly, cranking amps for an electric motor don't mean anything. You need a deep cycle battery that is able to be recharged over and over. They make different size deep cycles also. A 27 series is a good overall size. Some people go larger, but smaller might not last as long as you need.
uhhello reply :
So I decided to stop waiting for a decent used pelican to pop up around here and am going to truck 3 hours up to Macon Sports Authority and pick one up along with making a stop at the bass pro shop there. Going to call ahead before I take off but I'm looking to equip it with the below motor and then possibly a lowrance elite 4x dsi
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product__10151_-1_10051_10210662
http://www.basspro.com/Lowrancereg;-Elite-4x-DSI-Color-Imaging-Fishfinder/product/53518000/247261?cmCat=CROSSSELL_THUMBNAIL
Any other suggestions. I'm pumped.
jeffo21 reply :
nope looks like a very good set up. but i would suggest a t/m mount for the transducer cause the plastic on these boats doesnt hold a screw well and if you hit a few stumps it will pull loose.
uhhello reply :
On 8/11/2012 at 11:56 AM, jeffo21 said:nope looks like a very good set up. but i would suggest a t/m mount for the transducer cause the plastic on these boats doesnt hold a screw well and if you hit a few stumps it will pull loose.
Was my plan. Kind of disappointed that the unit doesn't come with a TM mount but whatever.
jeffo21 reply :
I bought my mount from johnny ray sports it mounts to the tm shaft and can use wing nuts with lock washers to make it where you can easily remove it if you want.
uhhello reply :
Why is there such a price difference between academy, bps, dicks, and the like on pretty much the same type of boat?
jeffo21 reply :
couldn't tell ya. I bought mine at Academy, then they gave me a break on buying the tm from them too
DrNip reply :
On 8/10/2012 at 5:35 AM, _Coelacanth_ said:I live in Choctaw.
I'm still trying to decide where I'm going to go for my first trip in my new boat. I was thinking about Wes Watkins, but I'm not sure yet. It's still going to be a couple of weeks before I take her out on her maiden voyage. I promised the Mrs. that I would finish the renovations to our house that I'm in the middle of before I took it out.
I wanted to go ahead and buy it though because I actually bought two. A close friend of mine, who is helping me with the work on the house is who I go fishing with. He doesn't have a boat either, so I bought him a 10e and the same trolling motor as a "thank you" for all the help he has given me.
I figured if I went ahead and bought it and told him about it, he would be extra motivated to help me get the renovations done faster!
Looking hard at a Buster Boat myself and when I snag it I'll be hitting Wes Watkins myself. Only live a mile from it. Looking at the Buster Boat because it has a live well and ice chest integrated within it.
uhhello reply :
I know some guys earlier had mentioned finding a cover for their 10' pelican but had differing reviews on it. What do people use?
uhhello reply :
Dropped just under 1200 today 500 for the boat, 190 for 45# Motorguide, 100 for battery and connectors, 60 for the minkotoa batt box, 70 for charger, and 200 for lowrance. Was very surprised at how much cheaper everything was at academy vs bass pro. Now just got to get it all ready for the water this weekend.
tnriverluver reply :
I just bought 2 Elite 4 dsi gps units from Cabelas and they did include a Trolling motor mount even though it didn't show in the description.
uhhello reply :
Sorry for all the posts guys but trying to get my boat situated. Going to bow mount my motor and have the plug needed but was wondering if I just cut and splice the plug? My concern is with my sonar. I was planning on mounting it to the motor but am worried about stripping everything down all the time. Its not so much the work but the wear and tear on the connections and what not. Will also need to splice more power wire into it to get her back to the battery in the rear. Like the idea of the transom mounted TM shaft transducer but haven't seen anything on craigslist for a LONG time.
Going to give this a shot
OhioBassRaider68 reply :
WOW .. this thread is AMAZING ! so many great ideas out there. I am very excited cause in a week i am getting my Bass Raider 10E which i found on Craigslist for $500, it has been garage kept and only on the water 10 times ... comes with 55# thrust BassProShops trolling motor, Eagle fish finder, 2 oars, deep cycle battery with box, seats. I'm thinking it's a fair deal and i'm excited to get it as we have a bunch of small watersheds in my area that this will be perfect for ..
Couple questions .. ( i'm sure they'll be more ) someone in an earlier post mentioned a really small charger that will just run the fish finder .. it recharges by plugging it in with an AC adapter .. made by Humminbird, this sounded like the way to go for the fish finder, any input. Also what size deep cycle battery would you recommend for the trolling motor as i may buy a new one so i have a spare, i just bought the Schumacher SC-100A charger from Northern Tool on sale for $53.99
Thanks for any suggestions ..
tnriverluver reply :
Just a little glamour shot of my little boat on Reelfoot lake this past weekend. Thank God the winds were calm for once!!!!
West601 reply :
Is it ok to put skrews in a two man boat?
West601 reply :
Does any one have a two man boat around Waco Texas.
cbjfan75 reply :
Ok, bought a used 10e this summer. Came with a 3HP 1961Evenrude and a rowing system. Have since bought a trailer and have been fishing like crazy. Today bought a Humminbird Fishin Buddy with the clamp mount, just curious if anybody knows of a way to rig this so it doesn't vibrate out of the holder while moving across the lake. So far I'm really regretting having purchased one if it doesn't even function while I'm moving.
jaaron01 reply :
On 8/24/2012 at 11:14 AM, cbjfan75 said:Ok, bought a used 10e this summer. Came with a 3HP 1961Evenrude and a rowing system. Have since bought a trailer and have been fishing like crazy. Today bought a Humminbird Fishin Buddy with the clamp mount, just curious if anybody knows of a way to rig this so it doesn't vibrate out of the holder while moving across the lake. So far I'm really regretting having purchased one if it doesn't even function while I'm moving.
I took some black elec tape and put 1 wrap on it, and it fit's snuggly in the holder. If I run the trolling motor wide open it will still pop out, but on slower trolling speeds it will hold just fine.
budpln reply :
any1 tried one of these? http://kipawapropellers.com/product.html i dont know why but i havent got the email updates on this page just giving an update about me and my boat incase any1 cares.. since i posted up my pics me and my brother have been going fishing alot we never really got along and did anything together untill i got this little boat but anyway he is 210 im about 155 i sit in back with the motor battery he sits infront 2 fishing poles and 2 tackle boxes and the frigging boat is amazing for fishing u legit can go in 2 inches of water cant use the trolling motor in that shallow of water but with a paddle ur good to go. this boat is so stable my brother (210) walks on the very side of the boat no problem boat is awsome..
West601 reply :
No I have not. To me a propeller is a propeller to i dont think it would make that big of a diffrence. Will it leak if I put skrews in the pelican bass raider?
jeffo21 reply :
you can put the screws in but then seal them with some good silicone, so that it wont leak into the poontoons
West601 reply :
What's the best TM to buy?
OhioBassRaider68 reply :
Can anyone recommend some good rod holders for a Pelican Bass Raider 10E ... i don't mind if i have to mount the base with screws, was thinking about the Scotty Power Lock rod holders but they look kind of big
... do you have rod holders on yours and if so what kind ?
THANKS !
mtdoramike reply :
On 8/31/2012 at 7:30 AM, West601 said:What's the best TM to buy?
I use a Minn kota 55 pound thrust trolling motor on mine and it moves across the water quite rapidly.But it is a bit heavy for me to tote back and forth from the truck to the lake.
West601 reply :
Cool what type of boat do u have?
jaaron01 reply :
Has anyone bought 1 of these yet?
MotorGuide® Bulldog Foot-Control Transom-Mount Trolling Motor - 54-lb. Thrust
tnriverluver reply :
Did not know that trolling motor existed. Mighty tempted to get one as it would save me a lot of headaches in my soon to happen mods. After reading the reviews the one thing bad that stands out for my use on a jon boat is that it doesn't slide all the way up out of the way for stowage. I would have to remove it when trailering. Would be perfect on my Bass Hunter though since I remove everything anyhow!! May have to spend more money I don't have now, Thanks a lot 
West601 reply :
Academy has the ten e for 549.99!!!!!!
ARH4AU reply :
I bought mine for $499 @ Academy last year. They always seem to have the lowest price on these.On 9/3/2012 at 4:44 AM, West601 said:Academy has the ten e for 549.99!!!!!!
West601 reply :
Academy is the cheap version on bass pro
mtdoramike reply :
On 9/1/2012 at 5:11 AM, West601 said:Cool what type of boat do u have?
I have the Pelican Bass Raider 10
West601 reply :
Cool I'm get a 10E
_Coelacanth_ reply :
I finally got to take my 10e out for its maiden voyage today!
I didn't catch anything, but I had a great time and am overall very impressed with this little boat.
The only complaints I have are minor.
It wasn't very breezy out today, but it did seem that I got pushed around very easy, even with the rudder I made. I expect that this is just one of the trade-offs for having a lightweight, plastic boat. Not too big of a deal. I'll adjust my fishing accordingly and try to work with the drift and not against it.
Although the 10e seems vey stable and I never worried about capsizing, when I would stand, I would get the sensation that the boat was going to "skate" out from under me to the side very quickly. I was trying hard each time to keep my weight centered, but it was still a little sketchy.
I'm not sure if it was just me, and i need to get used to being on the water again (haven't fished out of a boat in a looong time, but always felt that I had a decent pair of sea-legs) or if it was just another characteristic of this type of boat.
I was curious if anyone has made a carpeted, plywood floor for their Bass Raider, and if this might help with this issue.
Jim McC reply :
I carpeted a piece of 1/4" luan plywood I had for the floor because I like to fish barefoot in the nice weather. It won't help the tippy feeling, but it feels better standing on it instead of the plastic ribbed floor. After you stand in it a few times, you will get used to it. Just keep your feet as far apart as possible.
jaaron01 reply :
I put down 3/4 marine plywood in the floor with outdoor carpet over that. Added some weight, but I have mine on a trailer and launch it like a normal boat. Also added nicer seats and added a pole to the front seat.
As for the wind blowing you around, yes these little boats are easly effected by the wind. But did you have any trouble navigating the water? I've seen guys out with no rudder on, and they can't hardly steer in a straight line. With my rudder I have no issues with the wind, and she goes were i point her. What size rudder are you using?
As for standing, I stand in mine and cast sometimes and the plywood floor does make it feel more stable, but I'm short anyways so I have a low center of gravity.
zachb34 reply :
On 9/7/2012 at 7:58 PM, jaaron01 said:I put down 3/4 marine plywood in the floor with outdoor carpet over that. Added some weight, but I have mine on a trailer and launch it like a normal boat. Also added nicer seats and added a pole to the front seat.
As for the wind blowing you around, yes these little boats are easly effected by the wind. But did you have any trouble navigating the water? I've seen guys out with no rudder on, and they can't hardly steer in a straight line. With my rudder I have no issues with the wind, and she goes were i point her. What size rudder are you using?
As for standing, I stand in mine and cast sometimes and the plywood floor does make it feel more stable, but I'm short anyways so I have a low center of gravity.
How do you store your rods? I have the same boat and that thing that comes across the side really messes thing up.
_Coelacanth_ reply :
On 9/7/2012 at 7:58 PM, jaaron01 said:I put down 3/4 marine plywood in the floor with outdoor carpet over that. Added some weight, but I have mine on a trailer and launch it like a normal boat. Also added nicer seats and added a pole to the front seat.
As for the wind blowing you around, yes these little boats are easly effected by the wind. But did you have any trouble navigating the water? I've seen guys out with no rudder on, and they can't hardly steer in a straight line. With my rudder I have no issues with the wind, and she goes were i point her. What size rudder are you using?
As for standing, I stand in mine and cast sometimes and the plywood floor does make it feel more stable, but I'm short anyways so I have a low center of gravity.
No, I didn't have any trouble with navigating. The boat stayed where I pointed it. It was just a noticeable overall drift in the wind. As for what kind of rudder it was...I took an old drywall hawk and drilled the rivets out of the handle. I then made the frame for it out of PVC and painted it to match the boat. The rudder itself worked, because I didn't have any trouble with spin. Like I said, it was just overall drift.
I think I'm going to give the plywood floor a try and see how it goes. I'm not too worried about the weight because I launched mine by backing my truck down to the water at the boat ramp. Once my back wheels were in the water, she slid right out. I had a rope tied to one of the handles and walked it over to the dock. To load back up, I just reversed the process and used the rope to pull it by the tailgate and then picked up the front end onto the bed.
Jim McC reply :
On 9/7/2012 at 10:37 PM, zachb34 said:How do you store your rods? I have the same boat and that thing that comes across the side really messes thing up.
I mounted 4 pieces of 1.25" PVC with zip ties in a milk crate, and the rods stand upright in those. In the carton, you can store your anchor, rope, etc
OhioBassRaider68 reply :
On 9/7/2012 at 7:58 PM, jaaron01 said:I've seen guys out with no rudder on, and they can't hardly steer in a straight line. With my rudder I have no issues with the wind, and she goes were i point her.
PLEASE give me some tips on the rudder .. i would like to add one to the back of my bass raider 10E .. can you give me information on where to get one or how to make one. THANKS
jaaron01 reply :
I searched Craigslist for and Old Trolling motor, with a metal shaft. Found one close by for $20.00 bucks. Cut the Powerhead, and top of the unit off,so that all I had left was the bracket and the metal shaft. Flattened one in of the shaft in my vise, about 12 inches of it. Attached a piece of sheet metal about 8 x 11 with bolts. Now I always leave the Bracket attached to the boat, and only remove the shaft from the unit. Also has a built in tilt, as most trolling motors do, so when the weeds get real thick, I can lift it up and slide thru, then hit the button and she tilts back down.
You can see my contraption if you look at the rear of my boat. Might give you and idea. Don't have to worry about it falling off, and will hold fast in a turn, unlike those that just hang on.
jaaron01 reply :
Seen these the other day while surfing the net, and they kinda caught my attention. Anyone have any thoughts on these little guys?
http://www.smalloutb...2cycle25hp.html
tnriverluver reply :
Don't know about that particular outboard but many years ago bought a Sears 3.5 made similar to that one for a 12ft jon I had. Worked fine and was extremly lightweight. The biggest drawback was it was very loud being air cooled. They were made by Eska and came in several different power levels. I was looking at some on Ebay recently and saw several Chineese motors like the above. Tempted to try one on my Basshunter for the price. I need a 2 hp and Honda is currently the only major brand making one. Too much $$$ for no more than I would use it. The ones one Ebay are shipped free and much lower price. I know nothing about them however so as the saying goes, buyer beware.
OhioBassRaider68 reply :
Just purchased this Bass Raider 10E not long ago .. there was a few things i wanted to do to it and just got them completed. I installed a 1/4" Luan plywood deck and covered it with nice outdoor carpet ( $8.99 for plywood .. $13.50 for carpet ) i also installed and wired up a bow light and anchor light for night fishing ... i have a on-off-on switch in the back next to battery box which allows you to just have anchor light on or both anchor & bow light on.
... i have the BassProShops 55# thrust Prowler trolling motor on the front and a size 27 deep cycle battery in the back, i am taking it out this Sunday for the first time .. i am curious how it does with tm on the bow .. i've heard some say it works just fine and some say the back wants to twist around .. i'll be fishing with 2-people in the boat and i know there will be more weight in the back so i'm thinking it should do just fine
.. a couple questions
- anyone have a good idea or plans for a dolly that i can make for this boat?
- do you ever use an anchor with this boat and if so what type?
- also .. any ideas for rod holders ?
Thanks much and good fishing !
OhioBassRaider68 reply :
another picture of the deck i made ... this weighs next to nothing !! it really makes the bottom of the boat feel better to stand on and it was less than $30 including tax ( it took me about 45-minutes to complete ) i used stainless steel staples to staple carpet to the luan plywood
jaaron01 reply :
On 9/22/2012 at 12:19 PM, OhioBassRaider68 said:another picture of the deck i made ... this weighs next to nothing !! it really makes the bottom of the boat feel better to stand on and it was less than $30 including tax ( it took me about 45-minutes to complete ) i used stainless steel staples to staple carpet to the luan plywood
What are you using for your Oar's, a clip of some kind? Were did you get them?
Bean Counter reply :
On 5/16/2011 at 10:38 PM, EricB said:What I was thinking was leaving the trolling motor the way it is(it is a good working but small TM) and seeing if it would work as a rudder, plus I'd have a spare TM if the main one quits.
Thanks
Eric
I had a 12 ft jon boat with the trolling motor and pedisal seat in the front. There was so much weight in the front that the back was almost out of the water and it wouldn't track properly. I put an old broken trolling motor on the back for a rudder and it tracked just fine. I'm sure it would help with your boat also.
OhioBassRaider68 reply :
On 9/25/2012 at 4:24 AM, jaaron01 said:What are you using for your Oar's, a clip of some kind? Were did you get them?
These are flashlight holders (clips) .. work great to hold the oars, you can find them at hardware store or online http://www.gulfcoastrovers.com/flash-light-clip/ <----- that is one example
OhioBassRaider68 reply :
Was able to get my Bass Raider out last week for the first time ... WOW i love this boat ! i have the 10ft model and it was plenty roomy for 2 people along with 4 rods/reels and 2 tackle bags. I LOVE to carpeted deck i added and i stood up most of the time as i was casting crankbaits and top water baits .. caught this nice one on a crankbait in 8' of water just out from the lily pads you see in picture.
This small lake is 44acres and my Bass Raider worked perfectly .. i ran the 55# BPS Prowler trolling motor ( mostly on 1 & 2 settings ) for probably 3-4 hrs and hardly used any battery
LOVE my new Bass Raider 10E and can't wait to get back out on the water this weekend !
- Good Fishing
mudturtlle reply :
On 9/2/2012 at 10:50 AM, jaaron01 said:Has anyone bought 1 of these yet?
MotorGuide® Bulldog Foot-Control Transom-Mount Trolling Motor - 54-lb. Thrust
I have the bulldog foot control trolling motor.It works perfect on the front of the boat.The cable for the foot control probably wouldn't be long enough for the back of the boat.This is the best money I have spent on the boat.You can move the boat while casting and not having to keep moving the trolling motor with your hand.
zachb34 reply :
anyone have tips for building a boat dolly I have the 11.3 basstender? It weighs 260 pounds and I cant get it out of my lake which has a steep hill that I have to go over to get out any help would be great.
Pond fisher reply :
260 lbs.?
zachb34 reply :
It's a heavy boat but it has a livewell and storage compartments built into it
dominicd reply :
I made a "dolly" by using a 2x6. I cut the 2x6 to the width of my boat and attached to 8 inch air filled fixed position casters with carriage bolts. I used 2 U bolts at each end to attach a ratchet strap. I just strap it to one end of the boat and lift and carry it at the other end. Cost about $40 total.
zachb34 reply :
Does anyone know how much fuel an outboard would use on this my boat is rated for up to 15 h.p and I was thinking about a 9.9
Cruzza reply :
HI, I use a gray workout mat. 1/2 inch thick foam. Its light weight, dont slip, Quiets all the noise u make in the bottom of the boat, waterproof and hooks do not snag in it like carpet. when i figure out how to post pix here i will. it tells me my 2 megapixel pix r to big but you can go to my FB and see it.On 9/7/2012 at 11:38 AM, _Coelacanth_ said:I finally got to take my 10e out for its maiden voyage today!
I didn't catch anything, but I had a great time and am overall very impressed with this little boat.
The only complaints I have are minor.
It wasn't very breezy out today, but it did seem that I got pushed around very easy, even with the rudder I made. I expect that this is just one of the trade-offs for having a lightweight, plastic boat. Not too big of a deal. I'll adjust my fishing accordingly and try to work with the drift and not against it.
Although the 10e seems vey stable and I never worried about capsizing, when I would stand, I would get the sensation that the boat was going to "skate" out from under me to the side very quickly. I was trying hard each time to keep my weight centered, but it was still a little sketchy.
I'm not sure if it was just me, and i need to get used to being on the water again (haven't fished out of a boat in a looong time, but always felt that I had a decent pair of sea-legs) or if it was just another characteristic of this type of boat.
I was curious if anyone has made a carpeted, plywood floor for their Bass Raider, and if this might help with this issue.
Pondkiller reply :
First, thank you to every guy that has posted to this site. I think I've read/re-read several points that you have brought up - I get teary eye'd just thinking about it. Also, i give 100% of the credit to all of you for your ideas that i used when I put the mods into action. I've been working on this on and off for 6 months, but finally got it in action once the cold hit (think Minnesota). To date I've added (due to this blog) the following:
- paddle and retractable net holders on outsite left & right (all holes filled with waterproof loctite); found the holders at Gander Mountain and used for kayaks;
- Rod holders on the back (scotty's)
- Sonar holder (off front via PVC)
- GPS off front (had spare set from prior fishing boat...thought why not)
- Ram gimble holder/mid right for Nav (humminbird..pull from crestliner)
- All power connections are now the quick remove type
- Added light mounts front and back for night fishing
- Added the anchor pulley system and then added big eyelet and cleat to floor to keep rope out of way
- New floor added with outdoor carpet 1/4 inch water proof plywood.
- 2 beer holders
- Eyelets to strap down the bungees (love the idea) and use the outside edge to secure
- Battery tray (had to split) and placed battery in quick remove/quick charge case
- Let the boy add the name to both sides
- added extension to trolling motor
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Have yet to add bigfoot trolling motor pedal and rod holders on both sides of my chair.
Again, all ideas were yours and I must say this is the only blog I have ever read and likely will ever read again.
Not sure about your girlfriends/wives - pretty sure the wife thinks i'm nuts. Please give feedback or share ideas on things i could improve.
Pondkiller reply :
On 11/29/2012 at 5:19 AM, Pondkiller said:First, thank you to every guy that has posted to this site. I think I've read/re-read several points that you have brought up - I get teary eye'd just thinking about it. Also, i give 100% of the credit to all of you for your ideas that i used when I put the mods into action. I've been working on this on and off for 6 months, but finally got it in action once the cold hit (think Minnesota). To date I've added (due to this blog) the following:
- paddle and retractable net holders on outsite left & right (all holes filled with waterproof loctite); found the holders at Gander Mountain and used for kayaks;
- Rod holders on the back (scotty's)
- Sonar holder (off front via PVC)
- GPS off front (had spare set from prior fishing boat...thought why not)
- Ram gimble holder/mid right for Nav (humminbird..pull from crestliner)
- All power connections are now the quick remove type
- Added light mounts front and back for night fishing
- Added the anchor pulley system and then added big eyelet and cleat to floor to keep rope out of way
- New floor added with outdoor carpet 1/4 inch water proof plywood.
- 2 beer holders
- Eyelets to strap down the bungees (love the idea) and use the outside edge to secure
- Battery tray (had to split) and placed battery in quick remove/quick charge case
- Let the boy add the name to both sides
- added extension to trolling motor
- Have yet to add bigfoot trolling motor pedal and rod holders on both sides of my chair.
Again, all ideas were yours and I must say this is the only blog I have ever read and likely will ever read again.
Not sure about your girlfriends/wives - pretty sure the wife thinks i'm nuts. Please give feedback or share ideas on things i could improve.
Was wondering if the pictures are simply to small. Tried to live by the 150k limit. Again thanks for the ideas.
dwaynesworld reply :
Pondkiller, your boat looks great. Looks like very nice setup. But imo pics are to small
Pondkiller reply :
On 11/30/2012 at 10:06 PM, Pondkiller said:Was wondering if the pictures are simply to small. Tried to live by the 150k limit. Again thanks for the ideas.
Here are new pix. Expect a few posts due to file size limit.
Pondkiller reply :
On 12/1/2012 at 6:28 AM, Pondkiller said:Here are new pix. Expect a few posts due to file size limit.
Pondkiller reply :
On 12/1/2012 at 6:28 AM, Pondkiller said:
Pondkiller reply :
On 12/1/2012 at 6:29 AM, Pondkiller said:
uhhello reply :
One problem i'm running into is my TM is too strong on its lowest setting. 45# Motorguide on my 10 footer. Sometimes I just want to putt along but even on the lowest setting I go too fast and require too many corrections.
bd1997 reply :
Hey all,
I'm new to this site so thanks for all useful information. I bought my dad one today used with a 50.lb trolling motor, 2 batteries, battery charger and upgraded seats with padding. Ha My question to you is has anyone used a spread in bed liner for the inside and out? if this has been covered i'm sorry because I'm only on page 13.
Keith
jaaron01 reply :
On 12/4/2012 at 9:16 AM, bd1997 said:Hey all,
I'm new to this site so thanks for all useful information. I bought my dad one today used with a 50.lb trolling motor, 2 batteries, battery charger and upgraded seats with padding. Ha My question to you is has anyone used a spread in bed liner for the inside and out? if this has been covered i'm sorry because I'm only on page 13.
Keith
I know this topic has been covered a few times, and the general response has been don't do it, as it will peel off and looks like crap. why would you put that on anyway? Protection?
jaaron01 reply :
So it's the middle of December here in Nebraska, and everyone is getting ready for ice fishing, so my little boat is tucked in nice and warm in the basement. Has anyone done any neat modifications to there boat while the cooler weather is upon them?
Hoping Santa Claus will bring me my new 50-55 llb thrust trolling motor as requested. I'm ready for winter to be over and get back on the water for some early spring Crappie fishing. Also been crusing the basspro and cabela's catalogs for some boat accessories. Found a neat little orginizer that's offered in charcoal grey, so I can throw my bug spray and extra items like pliers, spare trolling motor shear pins...etc.etc..
Anyway haven't seem much movement on this thread lately so thought I'd ask what everyone was doing. Wish I lived in a warmer climate!!!!!
Pondkiller reply :
hey minnow, i did have a few mods, took a few of your ideas and put them towards my boat. thanks again. Did the same. once the fall turned cold i really ramped up the changes. If you have any feedback on the mods i put forth, please let me know. Thanks!
jaaron01 reply :
On 12/16/2012 at 11:36 AM, Pondkiller said:hey minnow, i did have a few mods, took a few of your ideas and put them towards my boat. thanks again. Did the same. once the fall turned cold i really ramped up the changes. If you have any feedback on the mods i put forth, please let me know. Thanks!
I seen you got your Trolling motor in the rear, and was wondering how that worked for you? I would recommend putting it on the front and putting a rudder in the back. Makes a world of difference in my book, but you might have already tried that.
zachb34 reply :
What's the advantage to the trolling motor being in the front?
Zoff reply :
Sometime a BR does not track well with the TM on the back so you have to may adjustments a lot.
jaaron01 reply :
I figured while the water is frozen, and the Ice Fisherman have the reins up here in Nebraska, it was time to do a little work on the boat. First thing i did was reposition the Battery and Tray i had under the back seat, and turn it sideways in the boat instead of long ways. Couple times I had someone with me, I noticed they banged into it sometimes. Now with it turned sideways and bolted down, it's completely out of their way and under the rear seat.
Other thing I finally did was fix the chair rails on the passenger seat. Everytime someone moved that back seat back and forward, they would make noise (hard plastic and metal railing rubbing) and it seemed to reverberate throughout the boat. So I noticed this summer my Black Garden hose was cracked, so I cut 2 pieces the length of the rails, and slit them, and put them over the metal rails. Chair can still be moved but won't be sliding all over the place, which can get agrivating sometime.
More things to come, just thought I'd share that with you guys incase anyone else wanted to make their chairs a little quieter.
Goose52 reply :
I don't have a bass raider style boat (I'm a canoe kinda guy)...but just wanted to say that any thread that has OVER 100,000 views, and 690 replies, is VERY COOL. Just shows how much interest there is in economical ways to get on the water and that you don't need to spend $50k on a boat to catch some fish... 
jaaron01 reply :
Still working on the boat during the holiday break. Decided instead of having my throw cushion bungeed around the back of my seat I would just add a little piece of wood and bungee to that. Also works with keeping things out of the floor. Buddy goes with me never wears his life jacket so he can bungee that to the back of his seat and keep it off the floor and out of the way.
Also went to Walmart and found some utility clips (spring loaded) for like $1.39 for two. Took one of those and used Marine Goop (Adhesive) and a couple of screws to help keep the boat oar off the floor as well. Springs not too strong so it's easy to open, and shouldn't pull off when pulling the Oar out.
Anything to keep items off the floor and free up space in these little boats is a big help!!!
Pondkiller reply :
On 12/17/2012 at 2:04 AM, jaaron01 said:I seen you got your Trolling motor in the rear, and was wondering how that worked for you? I would recommend putting it on the front and putting a rudder in the back. Makes a world of difference in my book, but you might have already tried that.
working out well. i'm actually ok with the motor in back as i'm usually anchoring up wind if needed otherwise trolling. love alot of the stuff you add.
Pondkiller reply :
On 12/29/2012 at 5:37 AM, jaaron01 said:I figured while the water is frozen, and the Ice Fisherman have the reins up here in Nebraska, it was time to do a little work on the boat. First thing i did was reposition the Battery and Tray i had under the back seat, and turn it sideways in the boat instead of long ways. Couple times I had someone with me, I noticed they banged into it sometimes. Now with it turned sideways and bolted down, it's completely out of their way and under the rear seat.
Other thing I finally did was fix the chair rails on the passenger seat. Everytime someone moved that back seat back and forward, they would make noise (hard plastic and metal railing rubbing) and it seemed to reverberate throughout the boat. So I noticed this summer my Black Garden hose was cracked, so I cut 2 pieces the length of the rails, and slit them, and put them over the metal rails. Chair can still be moved but won't be sliding all over the place, which can get agrivating sometime.
More things to come, just thought I'd share that with you guys incase anyone else wanted to make their chairs a little quieter.
Did you start to notice the noise after a while? usage? i'm not too worried as i don't expect too much usage besides me...the boys on occasion.
Pondkiller reply :
On 12/29/2012 at 7:09 AM, Goose52 said:I don't have a bass raider style boat (I'm a canoe kinda guy)...but just wanted to say that any thread that has OVER 100,000 views, and 690 replies, is VERY COOL. Just shows how much interest there is in economical ways to get on the water and that you don't need to spend $50k on a boat to catch some fish...
I watch Kayak Fishing on WFN all the time to pick up ideas for my bass boat. Similar needs. Small space, need to be clever with storage.
jaaron01 reply :
Did you start to notice the noise after a while? usage? i'm not too worried as i don't expect too much usage besides me...the boys on occasion.
I noticed it from day one. My chair rails made noise anytime you scooted them forward or backward. I fixed that problem on the front seat when I changed it out and added the pole instead. (Which I couldn't live without now), but left the back seat as it was. I've had the 8 year old out with me, and a few buddies and each time they move, you can hear that rail sliding around in the plastic channel that the seats fit into. I just put the rubber hose on there to quite them down, and also make them less slidable. They will still slide forward and backward, just takes a little more effort than before, and they don't make that (scrapping hollow plastic sound) anymore.
jaaron01 reply :
On 12/31/2012 at 10:47 AM, Pondkiller said:I watch Kayak Fishing on WFN all the time to pick up ideas for my bass boat. Similar needs. Small space, need to be clever with storage.
Feel free to share any stuff you find out on here. I've searched the Web and most sites seem to eventually lead right back to this thread. Always looking for ideas for storage. Seen on 1 thread were some guy had taken a small ice-chest ( like 6ix pack size ) and sunk it into the side of his pelican, down in one of the pontoons. He had dug out some of the foam, and then just sunk it in, just leaving the lid sticking up about 1/2 inch. He didn't post any photos, and i don't think I'm that desperate for photos, but would have like to seen how it turned out.
prjavelin reply :
theres a guy selling a 10.5 boat with both motors. what are the common flaws on a used boat like these? what can i use to lower the price? Its actually a pretty steep 1400 obo boat that has the seats integrated, has a electric motor and a gas outboard.
jaaron01 reply :
Biggest flaw on these little boats is getting holes in the btoom of them from being draged to and from the water. Check out the bottom of the boat, and look for scrap marks, or holes/cracks in the hull. They are normally filled with foam inside the hull, which makes them almost impossible to sink, but they fill with water and weight a ton.
Another thing is make sure you have the paperwork so you can register it in your state. That is the biggest pain here in Nebraksa, without the title, it was nearly impossible to register, so I just bought a new 8ft for like $425.00 and had no worries.
Other folks might have more things to watch for, but these are the big things I seen when shopping.
mtdoramike reply :
Here is my setup.
Pondkiller reply :
On 12/11/2012 at 10:55 PM, jaaron01 said:So it's the middle of December here in Nebraska, and everyone is getting ready for ice fishing, so my little boat is tucked in nice and warm in the basement. Has anyone done any neat modifications to there boat while the cooler weather is upon them?Hoping Santa Claus will bring me my new 50-55 llb thrust trolling motor as requested. I'm ready for winter to be over and get back on the water for some early spring Crappie fishing. Also been crusing the basspro and cabela's catalogs for some boat accessories. Found a neat little orginizer that's offered in charcoal grey, so I can throw my bug spray and extra items like pliers, spare trolling motor shear pins...etc.etc..
Anyway haven't seem much movement on this thread lately so thought I'd ask what everyone was doing. Wish I lived in a warmer climate!!!!!
Found this one today at Gander Mountain. Will add to the boat and try it in the Spring. Thanks Jaaron!
jaaron01 reply :
On 1/4/2013 at 5:53 AM, Pondkiller said:Found this one today at Gander Mountain. Will add to the boat and try it in the Spring. Thanks Jaaron!
What did you find? No picture attached.
Fishes in trees reply :
Back in the day, when I fished out of a pond boat all the time, my best storage for occasionally used items was a fairly large back pack, that I strapped to the back of the chair. It was out of the way, off of the floor and accessible when needed it. I'd store tools, rain suit/jacket, other stuff that I didn't need really often.
My boat had foldable seats and it was fairly easy to strap on the back pack, with the molded seats, one might have to get a little more creative, drill some holes, use duct tape or whatever. Just a random thought.
jaaron01 reply :
I decided before I bought a bigger trolling motor I would try one of these High Performance Props and see how it works on the Minn Kota. I know I've ready several different things on them, good, and some bad about overheating the motor. My warrently is out anyway, so thought for 29.00 I would give it a shot and see how it works.
tnriverluver reply :
On 1/5/2013 at 4:19 AM, jaaron01 said:I decided before I bought a bigger trolling motor I would try one of these High Performance Props and see how it works on the Minn Kota. I know I've ready several different things on them, good, and some bad about overheating the motor. My warrently is out anyway, so thought for 29.00 I would give it a shot and see how it works.
I would be really interested when you get one if it helps with reverse thrust. My only real complaint with my MK40 is reverse is totally useless even on high.
jaaron01 reply :
I agree with you on the Reverse thrust. You got to put it on high, then wait and pray it kicks in !!!!! Must be something to due with the pitch on the prop that causes it to be almost useless in reverse. I've read different things about these Kipawa props, some folks swear by them, others swear at them. I thought before I chunked out 200-250 bucks for a bigger trolling motor I would give this a shot.
It'll be a while before I get to try her out, due to everything being frozen up here. Sure wish I could get up the nerve to Ice Fish, but for this Southern boy, 20 years of "Don't go out on the frozen Pond" does something to your mind!! Thanks Mom.
Aggie5 reply :
Any of you guys know any good fishing spots around the brandon, fl area?
Nashua Nev reply :
i made a wheel/axle set fom 2 used 20 inch rear bicycle tires. i popped out the bearing seats and put i 3/4 inch threaded rod 5 inches wider than my jon boat. i secured the wheels with double nuts and washers to keep them on and also covered rod between the wheels with pvp water pipe so it would spin on the threaded rod nd not did into my jon boat or canoe at all. i secure it to the canoe and jon boat with 2 tie downs. total cost under 20 bucks. i used 2 tires i picked up from the dump and bought the threaed rod, nuts ,washers and pvc pipe from aubuchon hardware. if i remember i wll post a pic. used it all season long even in soft sand. loaded with trolling motor and battery and all the gear.
tfultz reply :
I have one of these boats. Have added some extras to it. Having trouble uploading pics on here. It can be seen on youtube, my channel is tfultz100 or type in Pelican Bass Raider 10E you'll find it!
wagn reply :
Wow. I'm amazed that this thread is still going. I had to sell my tracker a couple of years ago and have been basically out of bass fishing since then. I've decided to start over by pulling my old 10 foot Pelican out and rebuilding her into a mini-bass hunting machine.
I found this thread while googling a way to add a rudder to my boat. I read the whole thing from page 48 to page 1 before realizing that I was the first person to respond to the original question back in 2010. I haven't been on the site in over a year, but am glad to be back and am blown away by all of the mods that people have done to their bass raiders.
Keep up the great work! I'm definitely going to be using some of these in my own design.
Noe Garcia reply :
Cant wait for the weather to get better here in east tex. only got my pelican out one time last year. spending sum time at Beaver Bend this year. Any tips son the fishing.what about fishing license is it like tex. state parks u dont need a license.
B-rad reply :
Hello everyone, I have been enjoying this thread for just a week now. When I found this thread I was cruisin the web to find out more info about the boat that I found on craigslist for $200. I am impressed on all the mods that I have seen on here, to say the least. So after reading your alls feed back on this boat and its versatility of the mods that I could do, I then decided to purchase this boat. I paid 175 and he threw in a battery. I am now looking for a trolling motor for this bad boy. Fun times! So thanks again for the fantastic mods and I look forward to being a part of this group. 
Pondkiller reply :
I hear you. Love this post too. Up here in the north lands i'll work on my ice house mods in the summer and enjoy the mod on my pelican from this winter. starting to get the itch to see how my new system works out. For now I'll keep drilling holes in the ice.
Big Bassman reply :
I too have one of these little boats and use it for farm pond fishin. In fact, I am sitting in it for my avatar to the left. It's perfect for those small waters. Put it in the back of my pickup with all my goodies and can 4 wheel drive back to those boonie hard to reach ponds where the big guy's are just waitin for me! I have never modified mine, but have gotten many great ideas from this thread and will have to install a few of them. Thanks!
B-rad reply :
Hello all, I am looking for a way to mount my oar to the side or my boat. I have an 8' sun dolphin sportsman which is very similar to a pelican. I saw on you tube where a guy used a really slick looking black clips for his. I wonder if any body has any ideas on what I could use.
Thanks.
Pondkiller reply :
On 2/7/2013 at 5:57 PM, B-rad said:Hello all, I am looking for a way to mount my oar to the side or my boat. I have an 8' sun dolphin sportsman which is very similar to a pelican. I saw on you tube where a guy used a really slick looking black clips for his. I wonder if any body has any ideas on what I could use.Thanks.
I found several clips that you find when you look at kayaks and mods you find for these types of boats. i settled on pressure clips that allow you to store the oars without worrying about breaking off the clips. I will look around but i think i have a picture i can share of the set I used.
Pondkiller reply :
Found the file.
Big Bassman reply :
Hey tfultz, great vid and very sweet Pelican. Thanks for sharing! You are obviously a man of talent and detail!
Dwill817 reply :
Hey guys!
This is my first post. I have a little 8ft bass buggy, it's not a pelican bass raider, but it's the same concept! I bought it, a trolling motor, and marine battery for $185!! I have a few questions:
1) It didn't come with seats. Any homemade ideas? Pictures?
2) The PO painted the top white and it's starting to come off. Would it hurt to strip the paint off with a chemical? What chemicals? Should i just respray it and be done?
3) When mounting stuff to the hull can I just silicone to screws and be done? Or do I need to get some rubber cement or something?
Zoff reply :
Not sure about the other stuff but if the paint is coming off... flaking so to speak... a pressure washer should do the trick and not hurt the plastic.
tnriverluver reply :
After you get the paint off try to locate some Krylon Fusion paint. It is designed to adhear to plastic. Other Co's may make something similar now also.
Sontag1 reply :
I signed up to the Forum just so I could post to this thread. You guys have done some great mods on your Raiders.
I have a Bass Hound 10.2 which is similar in that it is a two man boat.
I have seen several posts about putting bedliner on these boats or trying to paint them and I wanted to pass along some information.
Most of these plastic boats are made from HDPE (High Density Polyethelyne). You will need to contact your manufacture to find out for sure, but It is probably HDPE. There is very little that will stick to HDPE (paint or adhesives). Some epoxy paints will, but they are expensive! You can paint your boat if you want to spend the money. There are also some heat treatments that will make HDPE more "sticky" so that the spray paints for plastics will really stick to it. Use your Google-Fu and I am sure you can find plenty of info for painting HDPE.
When I got my boat, it had a big rip in the front / middle of the hull. The Bass Hound has a more traditional hull style vs the pontoon style of the Raider. The rip was about 9" long and it was about 1/2" wide (at its widest point). I have no idea how this damage was done, but needless to say, I got a great deal on my little boat. So I started reading up on how to fix it. I spent about 2 weeks reading and learning as much as I could about Welding Plastic. If you have never heard of plastic welding, I suggest you learn a little about it. I have fixed several things since my boat repair. Most DIY projects are not too difficult.
Here is a link to some good info: http://www.wegenerwelding.com/pdf/09_Guidelines.pdf
I got my plastic welding kit from Harbor Freight Tools. They have several to choose from, but I bought the cheapest one and it worked fine. It looks like a large soldering iron with a flat head. I have also used a regular old soldering iron for repairing small items. Like fixing a cracked lense on my boat trailer lights. So anyway...back to the boat.
It turns out that milk jugs are made from HDPE. I cut up several and used them as my welding rods. It took about 7 hours for me to make the permenant repair. I methodically melted the new plastic to the old and closed the rip in the hull. Then using the welding iron, I melted a piece of metal screen into the plastic repair. Finally I melted a new layer of plastic over the entire repair. It worked great! I was able to salvage the $1200 boat that I was able to get for $200! The hull is green and has a nice big white spot where I was able to fix it. No one can see it except the fish, and they don't mind!
So if you damage your Raider, you can fix it yourself! I will see if I can find any pictures to post. I am not sure if I still have them.
uhhello reply :
Picked up a great deal on 798 HD SI. Looking to mount it using a RAM. How do i secure the base "securely"?
tnriverluver reply :
On 3/8/2013 at 7:34 AM, uhhello said:Picked up a great deal on 798 HD SI. Looking to mount it using a RAM. How do i secure the base "securely"?
You can get the double sided adhesive pads for the ram mount bases plus a few screws and it should be there for good.
Pondkiller reply :
On 3/8/2013 at 7:34 AM, uhhello said:Picked up a great deal on 798 HD SI. Looking to mount it using a RAM. How do i secure the base "securely"?
I used a 3M adhesive and screws into the base. you might want to put a metal plate down first if you have concerns with stability.
dlh2 reply :
The 10' Bass Raider I bought back in 2002 has a drain plug in back end floor. That's the best feature of the boat. I keep my boat in the water tied off to my dock year round and since the floor is above water level, it's self bailing. I never put the plug in, even when using the boat...the floor is always above water level even with 2 adults in the boat. I notice the new boats don't have a drain plug. I can't believe they discontinued that feature. If I was buying a new one today, I would retrofit it with a drain plug.
flacrawdad23 reply :
I am thinking about buying either a Pelican Bass Raider 10' 3" boat or a Basstender 11' 3" boat. Any thoughts between the two of them? I found a nice Basstender loaded for sale. This is what comes with the boat, Fully rigged out and ready to go. Basstender 11.2 boat fully decked out with many tackle storage compartments, Aerated live-well, Bilge pump, running lights, in deck retractable rod straps, 2 fold down seats, 1 butt seat with extendable pole, anchor, fire extinguisher, oar, 2 life vests, Garmin fish finder with speed and temps, Minn-Kota 36lb Thrust up front with on-off switch mounted to the deck, New Minn-Kota 55 lb 12V for the back with in-line circuit breaker, this motor has only been used 2 times. These 2 motors are great for fishing electric only lakes, this boat moves. 2 12v batteries reading upper 12's when charged. Trailer with 2 spares and heavy duty guide rails, not the ones shown in the
photos, these have been upgraded. Trailer is in fantastic condition, almost like new. This is a great rig for 2 guys, very stable boat. Does this sound like a good deal vs the Pelican Bass Raider? thanks for any comments.
jaaron01 reply :
How much are they asking for everything? Just make sure and get all the paperwork and that you will be able to transfer everything over into your name. Here in Nebraska is tough to do anything without extensive paperwork. I've got a trailer that I own, but had to have my buddy on the Iowa side register it in Iowa under his name, as Nebraska wouldn't register it without a vin number, unless I paid a couple hundred for bonding. In iowa it was $20.00 and a done deal.
Pondkiller reply :
Ok, not sure about any of you down south, but i'm getting SICK of winter. Today is April 5th and it is SNOWING IN MINNESOTA!!! I'm desperate to get out and get the raider in the water and try out my mods from this winter. I may have to find a way to fit some type of icebreaker on the front if the ice doesn't melt soon.
tnriverluver reply :
Here in W Tenn it has been a fairly mild but LLOOOONNNNGGGGG winter. We are still running 10-20 degrees below normal. At least this weekend should be nice except for the 20plus mph wind that just seems to never stop blowing now for 2 years straight.
On 4/6/2013 at 7:44 AM, Pondkiller said:Ok, not sure about any of you down south, but i'm getting SICK of winter. Today is April 5th and it is SNOWING IN MINNESOTA!!! I'm desperate to get out and get the raider in the water and try out my mods from this winter. I may have to find a way to fit some type of icebreaker on the front if the ice doesn't melt soon.
Pondkiller reply :
Darn global warming........
nvatexan reply :
New here. Thanks for all of the ideas - DYI stuff.
Post any links to mods or items to get for these boats if you have them!
stuffeshead reply :
Hello, folks. I was very happy to see such an active community of Bass Raider owners! I bought one yesterday for $250 from a local guy who only had his about a month. I suspect he got in a bind and needed some quick cash. Not gloating at others' expense, but I was happy for a good deal.
At any rate, he didn't have the seat frames. Apparently, he picked this up at G**** Mountain, and they discounted it because THEY had misplaced the frames. The seller used it for a month without the seats and then sold it to me.
I'm just curious about what would be the best option for replacing the frames without spending the $40 each on them. Any ideas about using wood? Maybe some 1x1 for the channels tacked to a 2x8 or 2x10 for the seat? Also, that would lower the center of gravity on the seats, making the passengers sit lower in the boat. Is that a good or bad thing?
Thanks for any ideas!
bmc90000 reply :
Hello All,
i just purchsed a new bass raider and want to mount a humming bird transducer on the right rear pontoon. What is the best way to seal the screwholes and wire up the boat. I have heard of issuse with the troling battery sleeding onto the fishfinder signal. any info will help
Bryan
Scott Salvi reply :
Anyone else having a problem with the rear transom flexing? I am using an old (early 80's) 4HP Evenrude that runs like a champ. The problem I'm having is if I try to open it up full throttle, the transom bends and the prop ends up under the boat and not straight down. I didn't think 4HP would be too much for this boat but it looks like I may be too loaded up? I'm about 240 and my daughter is about 150...happens even when I'm alone. I took my trolling motor & battery off the front and its no different. Any ideas to strengthen it? Other than this, my daughter & I love the boat and have a great time with it.
SnakeHead Hunter reply :
Hey Scott,
I found this
Side topic for rudders, I copied someone and cut a piece of 1/4" plexiglass about 4"x12" and drilled holes on the bottom and side and zip tied to my trolling motor which I place in the back, my reasoning is due to waves and wind I like to have as much weight in back to prevent water from coming over the bow. After I get my 3.5hp on I will move the trolling motor to the front and will work on designing a light weight splash skirt to prevent water from coming in the boat when moving at a good speed.
jonesey1961 reply :
Going to pick up my new bass raider today then go to work on it.
Brian6428 reply :
Hey guys, I got the Pelican Bass Raider 10e today, new. I have many questions before I take my trip to trick it out:
1. Would a 30lb trolling motor work well as a primary motor? It would be my brother and I in it, combined 350lbs plus gear.
2. Is it better to mount the trolling motor on the front or back?
3. What is the best kind of anchor? Mushroom, river anchor, navy anchor or other?
4. Any advice on batteries?
thanks!
jeffo21 reply :
I use a 36lb thrust on mine it works good and have about the same weight, I put my motor on back so if I go alone its easier to use and as for my battery I use a wal mart deep cycle. hope you have alot of fun with your boat I love mine
flacrawdad23 reply :
i have a Basstender 11.3, which is similar to the Pelican. I use 2 trolling motors and the are both 40lb thrust and I use deep cycle battieries from Walmart also. I have no problem with either end of my boat, I use the motor in the back when I am traveling long distances and I sit in the front and use the front motor when fishing.
flacrawdad23 reply :
What is the secret to posting pictures in a relpy?
Brian6428 reply :
On 5/4/2013 at 9:27 PM, jeffo21 said:I use a 36lb thrust on mine it works good and have about the same weight, I put my motor on back so if I go alone its easier to use and as for my battery I use a wal mart deep cycle. hope you have alot of fun with your boat I love mine
On 5/5/2013 at 12:39 AM, flacrawdad23 said:i have a Basstender 11.3, which is similar to the Pelican. I use 2 trolling motors and the are both 40lb thrust and I use deep cycle battieries from Walmart also. I have no problem with either end of my boat, I use the motor in the back when I am traveling long distances and I sit in the front and use the front motor when fishing.
Thanks for the replies, I decided to mount it in front, but I can easily move it to the back if I want. Sounds like both work. Thanks!
bmc90000 reply :
Belton Stillhouse yes in the coves or cross the open water if winds are 17 kts or less.
AndyinNE reply :
Picked up a Bass raider 8 a couple of years ago not a 8e so no wires. Used fish tape and ran wires through the hull. Setup plugs front and rear for trolling motor and added a few footwell lights, and a cigarette lighter plug for the fishfinder. Has been a great little boat for fishing the no wake lakes here in Omaha NE. Came across this thread yesterday and wished I would have found it sooner. Nice to see im not the only one putting stuff on a boat like this.
AndyinNE reply :
Thought I'd post a few pictures how I store my Bass Raider, have not seen alot of people covering this. I bought a bicycle lift at Harbor Freight. Think it was like $7, I replaced the rope with a better quality nylon one. Screwed the hooks to a 2x6 I trimmed to the right length to cradle the boat. I tyed a few extra lengths of rope around to make sure nothing would end up on the ground if something failed. It's been like this for two years so far without incident. Hope this can help someone out there thats tired of walking around theirs in the winter or could use a little extra space in the garage.
flacrawdad23 reply :
How did you put the pic on here? I am having trouble getting mine on here.
Brian6428 reply :
On 5/6/2013 at 5:21 AM, flacrawdad23 said:How did you put the pic on here? I am having trouble getting mine on here.
Scroll to the bottom of the page. There is a box to post a reply. Click "more reply options". On this page you will see the same text box, but beneath that there is a button to attach files. Assuming the photo is on your computer, you can click the "choose files" button, find the picture, and attach it.
flacrawdad23 reply :
Here is my basstender 11.3, it came with a livewell and a bigle pump. The guy I bought it from built the deck with all kinds of compartments. It has 2 seperate batteries and a fishfinder for the front and one for the back.
flacrawdad23 reply :
Thank you Brian6428, I was wondering if it was me doing something wrong.
flacrawdad23 reply :
Another view.
Brian6428 reply :
On 5/6/2013 at 9:55 AM, flacrawdad23 said:Thank you Brian6428, I was wondering if it was me doing something wrong.
No problem.
On 5/6/2013 at 9:55 AM, flacrawdad23 said:Thank you Brian6428, I was wondering if it was me doing something wrong.
Your boat looks nice, I am thinking of making a floor like that for mine to keep the fishing deck cleaner.
Scott Salvi reply :
Anyone take a bass raider apart? I'm looking to split the top & bottom to lean it out and run wiring inside...Then I want to seal it up. I'm getting some leakage through the seam.
AndyinNE reply :
I ran wires in mine without taking it apart. Just took some patience and time. But from the looks of it it shouldn't be that hard to split the two halves. I think everything is just pop rivited, I'd start at one end remove a few of the rivets and see if the two pieces are epoxied or sealed together. If so i'd leave it.
zachb34 reply :
Take the rub rail off it should be stapled together that's how mine was atleast
Scott Salvi reply :
On 5/6/2013 at 9:14 PM, zachb34 said:Take the rub rail off it should be stapled together that's how mine was atleast
Thanks Zach...no glue or sealer right?
zachb34 reply :
Mine didn't have it but I would use it to put the rub rail back on so you don't get water built up in the hull
Scott Salvi reply :
I'm thinking of sealing the top/bottom together with silicone adhesive.
zachb34 reply :
Do it right the first time use the marine grade sealant I used just regular silicone and it leaked my boat gained gallons of water in the hull and I had to drain it
madperry reply :
You would want to use 3M 5200 Marine sealant. You won't be sorry. Silicone will NOT hold up. You can get 5200 at Home Depot for the best price in a tube. Allow for cure time. Great stuff.
On 5/6/2013 at 10:22 PM, Scott Salvi said:I'm thinking of sealing the top/bottom together with silicone adhesive.
Pdubya reply :
Love this site. I'm a new, proud owner, of the Pelican bass raider and so far, I love it. Mainly used in local ponds/lakes and I have been looking for 2 weeks on a thread like this one. Great modifications and recommendations and after reading 51 pages of reies, I know I found the right site. Thanks for all the ideas, just wish there wasnt a limit on photo size cause I don't know how to modify the pics lol.
tfultz reply :
I've never took mine apart but have heard of a few people that have. After putting it back together they said it was never right, leaked and just didn't fit back right. If you do would you take some pics and post them? curious what it looks like inside.
On 5/6/2013 at 8:22 PM, Scott Salvi said:Anyone take a bass raider apart? I'm looking to split the top & bottom to lean it out and run wiring inside...Then I want to seal it up. I'm getting some leakage through the seam.
I've never taken mine apart but know some people that did. They said after putting it back together it was never right, Leaked and just didn't fit back real well. If you do would you post some pics? curious what it looks like inside.
AndyinNE reply :
Pdubya I use PIXresizer, its free and very easy to use. Google it, I think i ended up on download.com to download it.
oldfoggy reply :
I have a Bass Raider 10E on order but it isn't here yet. I have not ordered the 12 volt plug accessory from Pelican to adapt my trolling motor. I also use my trolling motor on a canoe so I need a plug adapter to fit the Bass Raider female socket but also a compatible socket to use in my canoe. Does anyone know who actually makes the plug Pelican sells as an accessory so I can purchase a socket as well? It appears to me that the brand may be a Seachoice or Mar-lan but I'm not sure. Perhaps this type of plug and socket are universal to more than one brand. What have present bass raider owners done about trolling motor plug adapters? Please let me know.
Ok...Now that I've had time to learn my way around this forum a little better...I did a search for Pelican trolling motor plugs. According to a 2012 post from member "fishcat," the male plug and female socket are the Mar-lan brand and can be purchased from Cabelas.
I would still appreciate any other input about the plugs or sockets.
AndyinNE reply :
Oldfoggy I used the mar-lan brand from cabelas when I wired my boat. They seem to hold up well to use. Put one in the fornt and one in the rear. Soldered the plug to the motor and used heat shrink tubing to seal it a little.
oldfoggy reply :
Andy....I'm happy to hear from someone that has actually used the Mar-lan brand. I've been holding off my Cabelas order hoping to find someone that has actually used them. My Bass Raider 10E should be here next week. From what I've been told the boat will have a prewired socket in the front with those wires running thru the pontoon and protruding near the rear for eyelet connection to the battery. I'm told there will not be a socket in the back, which doesn't make much sense if you want the ability to use the trolling motor from either the front or the back.. I'll have to solder the Marlan plug adapter to my trolling motor (as you did) and I'll also have to add a Mar-lan socket in the stern area. If Pelican is going to sell the "E" (wired version" of the boat) it would make more sense if they pre-installed a socket both front & aft. OH WELL....I can always find something to complain about....Now that I'm sure the Mar-lan plugs and sockets match what Pelican does pre-install, it won't take much to add the back socket. My job will be easier than yours since you had to add all the wirng.
Thanks
AndyinNE reply :
Oldfoggy First time out I put the trolling motor on the back. It was such a pain in the ass, I spent more time steering and adjusting than fishing. Had a friend with me so the extra room taken up by the trolling motor behind my back made for close quarters. Next time out I put the motor in front was a night-day difference gained about a foot because the motor was in front of me. Was easy to control and fish. If I had it to do over again I don't think I would even bother setting up a plug in the back.
AndyinNE reply :
Heres a few pictures of the plug I used on the motor.
oldfoggy reply :
Andy...What you say makes a lot of sense to me. In this small boat I can see where extra space will be important. I also see your point about having the contol of the trolling motor right in front of you. Thanks for the photos also...you did a really nice job installing the wiring. I think my boat will be here in a few days so I'm anxious to get started with accessory work. I see from your photos that you used the plug/socket version that has the pins protruding from the hull mounted sockets and that your plug has the holes to mate with the socket pins. Mine will be just the opposite since my dealer tells me the factory installed socket has the recessed holes and the plug has the protruding/exposed pins. I'll let you know how it works out.
oldfoggy reply :
Andy...In case you get future questions about how you wired your Bass Raider...Here's the socket type that comes with the prewired Bass Raider 10E. The "pre-wired" version comes with only one socket in the bow/front. Near the stern end, the wires (red & black) exit the hull thru a rubber grommet. The wires have eyelet terminals for connection to the battery. There is a 50 amp fuse/socket installed in the positive/red wire near the battery eyelet. The factory wires are #8 size. Though this minimal wiring from the factory is a nice addition, the wiring you self installed for your boat is definitely a better setup. The pictures I've attached show the model/type of socket installed from the factory. They are still the Mar-lan brand but opposite of the Mar-lan model/type plug & socket types you used. Both plug/socket types are available from Cabelas. As you can see in the pictures, there are three wires...red, black & orange. With the 12 volt prewired Bass Raider 10E, the orange wire isn't installed in the boat. If you add sockets to your Bass Raider, you simply tape off the un-used orange wire.
Note: I've attempted to describe the new Bass Raider 10E that I purcased in mid May, 2013. Manufacturers change their designs from time/to time so this may not apply in the future.
oldfoggy reply :
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tfultz reply :
On 5/22/2013 at 10:06 AM, oldfoggy said:Protect your fishing spot with a larger array of boating accessories.
LOL!! That's awesome.
gripnrip reply :
I'm seriously kicking around getting a 10 ft brand new one for 550.
Brian6428 reply :
On 5/22/2013 at 9:33 PM, gripnrip said:I'm seriously kicking around getting a 10 ft brand new one for 550.
I recently did exactly that and love it. Super nice to fish out of.
tnriverluver reply :
Here is a little video of my Bass Hunter Bass Baby in action catching some gills this past weekend during a camping trip. Caught 400 mostly nice gills and some giant Redears this day.
basshead1 reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 1:17 PM, Poney said:Thought I would share some pics.
I needed a way to mount my fish finder, and mount the transducer in front of the boat. I run trolling motor in the rear, so the TM mount wouldnt work for me , and I didnt really want to screw holes in the boat. So I turned to PVC (AKA Grown Man Legos)
This is made from 1/2inch pvc with a piece of diamond plate zip tied to the top. I have a mini 12volt battery underneath to power the fishfinder. I've got plans to add a rod holder, and measuring tape.
This is for the transducer. 3/4inch pvc, notched at the bottom, and drilled to hold the transducer. Simply hangs over the front.
(Pic has it mounted on the rear because the boat was loaded front first)
I tried it out this past weekend, and it worked great.
Very nice. I think this is how I will do my ff too. I may even put the transponder in the back and add a rudder to the pvc.
basshead1 reply :
On 5/23/2013 at 4:56 AM, Brian6428 said:I recently did exactly that and love it. Super nice to fish out of.
On 5/22/2013 at 9:33 PM, gripnrip said:I'm seriously kicking around getting a 10 ft brand new one for 550.
I did too. Dicks had a great sale and free shipping.
ginger ashcraft reply :
I have a bass raider 10e. Has anyone found a boat cover that will fit it? I love my boat and use it all the time. I use a small trolling motor on the back and it works fine for me. I still use the seats that came with it. I found her on Craigs list for $350 and she was just like brand new. People buy things and then just don't use them. I have caught some nice bass in it and even a couple nice bullhead!
tfultz reply :
On 6/5/2013 at 11:18 AM, ginger ashcraft said:I have a bass raider 10e. Has anyone found a boat cover that will fit it? I love my boat and use it all the time. I use a small trolling motor on the back and it works fine for me. I still use the seats that came with it. I found her on Craigs list for $350 and she was just like brand new. People buy things and then just don't use them. I have caught some nice bass in it and even a couple nice bullhead!
Bass pro has one that fits nice with the seats and trolling motor still on the boat. Its made by Classic Accessories $30-$40. Its not road worthy but is a nice cover. Buster boats has one that is trailerable, Part # B10000-Tan its $80 I think.
ginger ashcraft reply :
Thanks! I will check these out. Tired of having to use the shop vac!
Bomber7 reply :
Hi all, I'm new to this forum - first time posting. I meet a guy from this forum while I was trying out my new boat - Sportsman Sun Dolphin 8' at Walnut Creek in Papillion NE. I bought it at Dick's Sports - it was listed for $449 but I got a 10% discount for applying for their in store credit card. Well any way my first day out was Monday morning and that afternoon first thing I did was go upgrade my seat. The boat comes with these elementry school cafeteria type seats - got a nice folding padded one at Wal-Mart for $32. Well the guy I met and was talking to goes by jaaron01 here - saw some of his posts recognized this boat - sweet ride I might add.
So I got some great ideas from seeing his boat and reading this forum - I'll post pictures of the mods I make to my boat once I figure out how to posts pictures - need to make the file smaller it tells me - first thing I'm working on is that rudder thing.
Anyway glad to be a part of this forum - great site.
Doug
Bomber7 reply :
Here are a few shots of my boat - right now I use a milk crate for my bait bucket - I do a lot of crappie fishing - I attached pvc pipe to the sides of the crate for pole holders.
Bomber7 reply :
I want to mount my trolling motor to the front my boat but it does not have a metal mounting plate like there is in the back - any ideas to the best way to do this?
jaaron01 reply :
On the front of these little boats they are re-enforced with a wood mount under the plastic. I just used some thin Ply (or whatever your have) and made a sandwich type mount. Thin Ply on one side/Thin ply on otherside and screwed them in. Gotta watch the thickness of the ply or when combined with the thickness of the plastic your TM wont fit over it. Also some intertube rubber will help keep the TM from pulling off the wood when making sharp turns, and forgetting your TM was set on "5".
JIm
Bomber7 reply :
Thanks Jim - appreciate the help and suggestions - I just talked to a co-worker - he has a work shop at his house and he is going to make me rudder and also two metal plates to mount on the bow trolling motor mount area. Don't know why the manufacture of these didn't do that but oh well something for me to do I guess.
Doug
Bomber7 reply :
Another question - is there wood under any other parts of the boat - for like screwing pole holders, cup holders, etc?
Pondkiller reply :
hey all, glad to see the thread still going. need to catch up on the many many posts in the past couple months. been busy out fishing so i'll try to catch up and keep up. PondKiller is doing well. LOVING the new HB Fish/GPS system. My wife called me a redneck for working on a pond boat and I said I KNOW RIGHT!!!!!! So far had it out on a couple local runs. Will test it out this weekend. Picked up an bigger deep cycle batt to run the HB/GPS/Sonar etc. Still running the TM off the back and seems to work for me.
jaaron01 reply :
On 6/13/2013 at 9:47 PM, Bomber7 said:Another question - is there wood under any other parts of the boat - for like screwing pole holders, cup holders, etc?
Only other place with wood is the rear transom area. As for cup holders I just got mine and put them in the slots were the cupholders go, and used a fat/short sheet metal screw and went thru the bottom of the cup holder and into the boat. I don't think anything else will really hold in that plastic.
Fishes in trees reply :
It has been a number of years since I've had my pond boat out, but as a matter of principle, I always avoided drilling holes in it. For light things like a cup holder, I would use double sided tape or duct tape and not really care how it looked.
Bomber 7 - I know that the vertical storage for the fishing rods is kinda practical and saves space, but if you spend any time fishing around serious trees and brush, it is asking for it. Also it is easy to forget that it is there and you can break a rod by snagging it on the back cast. JMO
Bomber7 reply :
On 6/16/2013 at 1:19 AM, Fishes in trees said:It has been a number of years since I've had my pond boat out, but as a matter of principle, I always avoided drilling holes in it. For light things like a cup holder, I would use double sided tape or duct tape and not really care how it looked.
Bomber 7 - I know that the vertical storage for the fishing rods is kinda practical and saves space, but if you spend any time fishing around serious trees and brush, it is asking for it. Also it is easy to forget that it is there and you can break a rod by snagging it on the back cast. JMO
yeah I thought about that - what I did when I'm tied up to the trees which I do a lot is just lay the poles on the side trays that are built into the plactic - or since all my poles are two piece I can always just fold them up. when I'm tied or up anchored next the the trees I usually just have one or two poles in - I fish for crappie and walleye a lot so normally I'll have one about 1-2 feet off the bottom straight down and another one with a bobber - anymore gets too much to worried about.
thanks for the tips
Bomber7 reply :
I'm working on a modification to mount a canopy to my seat - it will fold down behind it when not in use - when I need to get out of the Nebraska sun it will flip up. I'll post pictures when I finish it and of course if it works. What I'm using is one of those fold out chairs that has the flip up canopy. I'm going to cut the metal support for it - keep the plastic mounting hinge then mount it on two pieces of wood that I screwed into the seat back. I'm also making a holder for my throw cushion and life vest on the seat back as well - hopefully it won't be too much on the back for the seat - but as everyone with these pond boats knows space is limited.
Bomber7 reply :
Well the canopy didn't work the way I hoped it would - so for right now I'll just go with a hat and sun screen
Bozz reply :
My first cast into these waters. Bear with the old guy. Would anyone believe I have read (and re-read in some cases) this entire 53 page expose' on my favorite little boat? This has been somewhat of an education and the ideas contained in this section of the forums has been inspiring to me, to say the least. I'll just start by saying a big Thanks to those of you that have posted and shared all the great ideas thus far.
I have owned a Pelican Bass Raider 10 since 2007 but life got in the way and I didn't use it much. Moved closer to the grandbabies a few years ago and left it with my brother...he used it a little and it sat outside. So it's faded a bit but never took on any water inside as we raised 'er up on end and took the plugs out...no H2O. After a little shellcracker excursion this past month, I decided to bring the striped Raider back home and apply some of the ideas, with my own twists, to my boat in anticipation of using it in the rivers and lakes near me in central Bluegrass.
I'll start with an image or 2...or 3. I ordered a pair of padded high-back camo seats for my tired nether regions. I'm a cheapskate and I like bang for the buck so I shopped quite a bit before pulling the trigger. I'm happy with these Wise seats so far.
I made a floor using 1/4" ply but I did mine in 2 sections, meeting in the center. Shoulda went with gray marine-backing but I thought I wanted green. Glued and a staple or 2 to keep it put. Angled the rear corners to match and wedge in the boat. Before laying it down, I ran a pair of 8 gauge cables from one end to the other...mine is not the "E" wired model. It is now. The center ridge down the floor worked well for this to keep the floor sitting right on the raised ridges. I had anticipated placing 12 volt receptacles in a couple or 3 spots along the inside kick panels and I can tie into this cable just about anywhere along the length of it should I decide to do so later. Haven't cleaned the floor yet cause I'm in the middle of several other mods.
Continued...
Bozz reply :
So I read a lot about the rudder idea and running the TM on the bow. I have always had mine on the transom and just thought that was the way it was. Yep, I endured the aggrvating wind maneuvering but thought that was the price of admission to my little pond crawler. Thanks to the previous posts, I have now turned my MK Endura 50 head around (one single bolt/nut) and she's mounted up front. I studied the various rudder ideas here and came up with my own little piece of custom. I had this 24 volt battery weedeater in the storage shed for a few years after it had died after the first season of use. I just can't stand throwing something like that away when I just got one season out of it. Maybe I can do something with it someday, methinks. I dug around and found it and studied it for a cigar or 2 and I come up with this.
I've ordered a small section of black ABS plastic sheet 1/4" thick from McMaster that will fit in a "keyway" slot that runs the length of the telescoping aluminum tube at the bottom. I'll use 3 stainless band clamps around the 1 1/8" tube tightend through a few holes I'll punch/drill in the ABS. I took all the components out of the top housing retaining the outer case only...including the little padded handle. I found a gent locally that had a MK mount on Craigslist for cheap $ so I drove over and picked it up. It came with a couple extra factory collars with the thumb tightener, one of which I saved for my TM extension handle on the other end of my boat. Later on that. Kinda cool that I still got the adjustment on the length of the tube section...not that I'll ever need it once I set it where it needs to be. In doing this, I was keeping in mind a good place to mount a transducer and I believe I have created the perfect spot here on the bottom of this tilting, telescoping, adjust-o-matic super dooper Raider rudder. Also I am eyeing the top of that rudder for a pole light or other accessory mount. Maybe a cigar holder??? :-)
Rudder tilted up...sans the actual rudder material at the moment:
Next...
Bozz reply :
I took the advice...twice...here in this thread about the BigFoot TM momentary switch. EEEEE-Bay. I found a pair of them new and have them here, just not installed. Checked em out...simple wiring...splice in on the negative side only and it says if you want to run 2 switches...wire the same as one. Reason for 2 is I have got all the materials together to make me a casting deck like in a previous thread. Thanks to the poster. Great idea. Sometimes I go solo and a lot of times I've got a buddy along so I'm making the casting deck for my solo trips. Butt seat and pole and deck will make my little Raider convertible in a second by either laying the deck in or taking it out and leaving it home. For those casting deck days..one of the BigFoot switches will be mounted on the deck with quick detach plugs on the underside. The other BF switch will be in the carpeted floor all the time for when I go 2 up. With casting deck and the BF switch...all I needed was a good way of bumping the handle to steer without bending over and reaching too far. The extra factory collar/sleeve from the used MK mount for the rudder came in handy here. I like the gent that made the statement about PVC pipe being grown man Legos. I have yet to get the boat off the table where I'll make the final adjustments to length and height on the PVC steering handle but I will finish it with camo tape or black paint and slide a handlebar grip over the end when I get it where it needs to be. Very pleased with it but will have to do the final tweaks on the water I guess. In the pic, it's up high...I just haven't set it yet until I get to climb aboard and see where I'll be with the deck installed when I get it carpeted and in.
Enough typing...my finger is worn down to the nub. EverStart Maxx group 29 battery, 8 lb navy anchor red/green LED, pole light in the back, rod holders, paddle & mount, etc etc etc...yet to come. Oh...then there's this nice little dual jetski trailer down the road...
k9gee reply :
Can anyone post the exact size and measurements of the ply wood you used for the bass raider 8. I wanna stop by home depot after work today and build the floor
Bozz reply :
k9,
I came across this previous floor post from Bill Porter with some dimensions. He did some really nice work on his:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/25442-any-pelican-bass-raider-owners-out-there/page-30#entry1124252
Bozz reply :
Just a thought for attachments to the hull for various non-stress items. I really wouldn't have a problem drilling holes in my boat well above the water line but I understand some might. There was an early post in this thread about the RivNut tool and that's a great idea. I picked up a bag of these well nuts at Lowes the other day and have used them for other things in the past but haven't installed them yet in my Raider. I will once I get the rod holders, etc and figure out exactly where I want them. They will seal the hole required to drill for install. I got the smaller ones which call for a 3/16" hole and they use a #6 - 32 screw but there are many sizes.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_427027-37672-3319_0__?productId=4189131&Ntt=wel+nuts&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dwel%2Bnuts&facetInfo=
Bomber7 reply :
ok got my rudder made or at least all the parts for it - just need to put it all together this weekend and hopefully trolling motor mounting bracket I found on e-bay will arrive too. A co-worker cut all the metal pieces for me and I drilled all the holes to assemble it today using my work drill press (man I need to get one of those babies). Also he made me two metal strips to make the trolling motor mount on the bow more sturdy - so I got a busy weekend of working on the pond hopper.
my boat is wired for a bow trolling motor with a 3 prong female plug - anyone know the best place to find the male connector - saw some of you talking about a foot on/off switch - if I do that do I need both? Plus keep in mind I do not have a floor installed yet - so where and how to mount it will be an issue. Thinking maybe after I do the floor. I'll get that foot switch - right now I'm going wait on the floor.
flacrawdad23 reply :
Hey Bomber7, I have a Basstender boat. It is different from the Pelican, but this pic will show you where mine foot switch is.
Bomber7 reply :
On 6/22/2013 at 8:39 AM, flacrawdad23 said:Hey Bomber7, I have a Basstender boat. It is different from the Pelican, but this pic will show you where mine foot switch is.
thanks for the input flacrawdad23 - I think I'm going to wait on the big foot switch until I install a floor. Right now I'm trying to wire the plug I picked up yesterday and wondering what to do with the orange wire (see picture) - my TM only has the black (ground) and a red/black (hot) wires - should I just cap this orange one off - I'm no electrician.
Bomber7 reply :
well finished with making my TM bow mounting brace - used two pieces of metal on each side (pictured) - also finished wiring the TM to the bow plug, I'll get a big foot switch later after I put in a floor. I'm a little hesitate on doing that right now as I have to load this in and out of the truck (no trailer) so I don't want to add too much weight. I do use two ramps to load it and it has made it easier then when I was picking it up and putting it on the tailgate and then pushing it in. With the ramps it slides right up and in.
I also put together my rudder - buddy of mine made it out of an old road sign he had and then I mounted it to a steel pipe - I got a minn kota TM mounting bracket off E-bay for $30 - looks like it will work out great - I'll take it out tomorrow morning and we'll see how it all works out.
Thanks for all the suggestions and ideas from this thread.
here's some pictures
flacrawdad23 reply :
On 6/23/2013 at 8:34 PM, Bomber7 said:thanks for the input flacrawdad23 - I think I'm going to wait on the big foot switch until I install a floor. Right now I'm trying to wire the plug I picked up yesterday and wondering what to do with the orange wire (see picture) - my TM only has the black (ground) and a red/black (hot) wires - should I just cap this orange one off - I'm no electrician.
I would call a Boat store and ask them what they suggest. In my boat, there is only 2 wires, so I am not familar with the extra wire.
oldfoggy reply :
Coming up with ways to save space in these little boats provides entertainment beyond the actual fishing. I still prefer using my trolling motor on the stern, especially when we're using the boat for water skiing. Since I sometimes fish alone, having the heavy battery placed at the bow end really helps to keep the boat riding level. I have a Humminbird portable locator that I previously purchased for Canadian fly in trips. It gets me by nicely for the kind of fishing I do with my Bass Raider.
oldfoggy reply :
The mount for the Humminbird clamps almost anywhere along the hull, port side or starboard.
oldfoggy reply :
Since I prefer using the trolling motor at the stern it helps to mount the heavy battery at the bow. I can mount it on the bow end floor but it saves more space and levels the boat even better when I mount it up over the bow.
oldfoggy reply :
I still wanted a way to use the trolling motor at the bow on occasion so I installed a plug on the battery, like the plug used for the trolling motor. Now I can just plug the battery in at either the bow or stern and move the motor to the opposite end.
oldfoggy reply :
So far, this seems to make things pretty handy and saves me some floor space as well.
Bomber7 reply :
Made a few more mods to my little boat - I drilled a small hole and put a rubber grommet in it - then took one of the pole holders that you stick into the ground if fishing from the bank - I had a few of these when I did that - so decided to see if I could put them to good use - seems to work ok a little loose but I might try to seal them with some marine goop.
Also picked up a Humminbird 110 Fishin Buddy Fish Finder - mounted to the bow next to the TM - only place that it would grip nice and tight cause of the wood under the plastic located in the bow. I'll see how it works out. If anyone has a better idea let me know - it just clamps on so moving it around will not be a problem.
Bomber7 reply :
Installed a pole storage holder today - it runs just above the molded in shelf and trays - I got it at Bass Pro for $12.99 - just used a few short screws into the plastic - I'm trying to make to so I don't have so much to transfer from my truck to the boat when I'm loading and unloading it at the dock.
Also got another idea on making it easier to launch and load it - when I was out at the pond today I saw guy with one of these boats back his truck tailgate right up to the water and then slide it out. I wasn't doing that, I was using my ramps - think this might be an easier option so I'll give it a try. Of course the battery will be out - too heavy to lift boat with it in there - one of these days I'll get a trailer - just right now I have more money then I wanted to invest in it but I'm loving this little pond hopper.
Brian6428 reply :
On 7/3/2013 at 5:42 AM, Bomber7 said:Installed a pole storage holder today - it runs just above the molded in shelf and trays - I got it at Bass Pro for $12.99 - just used a few short screws into the plastic - I'm trying to make to so I don't have so much to transfer from my truck to the boat when I'm loading and unloading it at the dock.
Also got another idea on making it easier to launch and load it - when I was out at the pond today I saw guy with one of these boats back his truck tailgate right up to the water and then slide it out. I wasn't doing that, I was using my ramps - think this might be an easier option so I'll give it a try. Of course the battery will be out - too heavy to lift boat with it in there - one of these days I'll get a trailer - just right now I have more money then I wanted to invest in it but I'm loving this little pond hopper.
I think what you've done to your boat looks great. With all this deck space you are saving, have you considered finding a way to install a foot controlled trolling motor? That is my main complaint with my bass raider is that i have trouble driving while i fish (hand controlled TM). Either way, your boat looks great.
Brian
pawnature reply :
Newbie here. I've had my Bass Raider for about 3 weeks now and love it. I bought it used with trolling motor 4.5 tiller. Of course I take the outboard off when traveling. I bought the trailer this week took the old rotted plywood off and added the treated 2x. in the process of adding a 5' tongue extension, and some other goodies. I've had this on large and small lakes and about 5 miles up the Big Sandy River. Love it.
timsampson reply :
Hey there brand new and am joining from the lovely Fort Hood, TX! I currently have the 10e with a minn Kota 30 bow mounted , humminbird 153, and am in the process of installing carpeting on 1/4" plywood and making two casting decks, pedestal seating and a live well. I have seen a lot of excellent ideas here and hope to continue to see more. I will be getting some pictures up as soon as possible, tomorrow!!!
tfultz reply :
I have tried to resize my pic of my boat, was successful in doing so. Even at the smallest size there still to big! Any suggestions?
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/3/2013 at 6:37 AM, Brian6428 said:I think what you've done to your boat looks great. With all this deck space you are saving, have you considered finding a way to install a foot controlled trolling motor? That is my main complaint with my bass raider is that i have trouble driving while i fish (hand controlled TM). Either way, your boat looks great.
Brian
Thanks Brian - yeah my next plan is to install a floor with indoor/outdoor carpet then I'll put in a bigfoot switch - right now I don't have any place to anchor it down other then mounting it to the plastic floor.
timsampson reply :
Day one!
timsampson reply :
Well I got the floor as well as the casting decks in, both ready for carpet. The decks sit on 1/2" PVC in the old seating slots, I'm going to brace the underside of the decks in the center where I will be adding pedestal seating for 360 degrees of bass lip ripping front and back, BOOM! I'm also going to pull out the existing wire, replace it with better wiring, and relocate it in the center of the boat where I will house 2, 12 volt batteries for the tm, livewell, GPS, and fish finder. Currently in the market for a used lightweight 3.5 hp engine under 350$ with shipping let me know what y'all have. I'm really hoping to have this done by this weekend as I would love to take her to Lake Fork and set a new state record with her!!!! Let me know what y'all think.
pawnature reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 7:09 AM, timsampson said:Day one!
Looking good. Would you care to share the measurements on the floor? Especially the end angles or cut backs.
timsampson reply :
@ John, what I did was split the flooring into 4 pieces for easy in and out in case of emergencies. It's 1/4" plywood. The total length of wood used was 8'8", and a width of 20 1/2". I then cut the two end pieces into 13" sections and then angled it off at a 45 both ways. The decks are 3/4" sanded pine 4x4 sheet cut into 2x4 then again cut into the sizes needed. 2'x2'3.5". Then they are screwed into 1/2 PVC pipes 2' in length. All in all wood, carpet, glue, staples and pedestal stands in about 90-100$ in right now. Hope this helps any more ? Feel free to fire em my way!
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 10:50 PM, timsampson said:@ John, what I did was split the flooring into 4 pieces for easy in and out in case of emergencies. It's 1/4" plywood. The total length of wood used was 8'8", and a width of 20 1/2". I then cut the two end pieces into 13" sections and then angled it off at a 45 both ways. The decks are 3/4" sanded pine 4x4 sheet cut into 2x4 then again cut into the sizes needed. 2'x2'3.5". Then they are screwed into 1/2 PVC pipes 2' in length. All in all wood, carpet, glue, staples and pedestal stands in about 90-100$ in right now. Hope this helps any more ? Feel free to fire em my way!
Nice looking boat Tim - waiting to see the finished product - probably need to start planning for my floor - seems the way to go.
Doug
timsampson reply :
Getting it in! It's about 200 degrees outside!
timsampson reply :
Again
Bomber7 reply :
anyone know if Lowe's or Home Depot will cut a piece of plywood to the measurements I need for my floor - i don't have a work bench at home nor a circular saw to cut it - just a jigsaw.
pawnature reply :
On 7/5/2013 at 7:22 AM, Bomber7 said:anyone know if Lowe's or Home Depot will cut a piece of plywood to the measurements I need for my floor - i don't have a work bench at home nor a circular saw to cut it - just a jigsaw.
I know Lowe's will and pretty sure that Home Depot will to.
timsampson reply :
Finally ready to go!!!
timsampson reply :
Another view, I wish I knew how to just put the pic in the message instead of attaching its right annoying!!
timsampson reply :
Anyone else not allowed to upload pictures?
timsampson reply :
I got the major cuts all done at Lowes but did the rest myself, quite enjoyable at that!!On 7/5/2013 at 7:22 AM, Bomber7 said:anyone know if Lowe's or Home Depot will cut a piece of plywood to the measurements I need for my floor - i don't have a work bench at home nor a circular saw to cut it - just a jigsaw.
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/5/2013 at 9:24 AM, timsampson said:Finally ready to go!!!
Looks great Tim - nice job - maybe I should hire you to do mine lol 
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/5/2013 at 9:42 AM, timsampson said:Anyone else not allowed to upload pictures?
I guess pictures aren't loading today.
BassMasterOkie reply :
WELL I REALIZE THIS QUESTION MOST LIKELY HAS BEEN ASKED BEFORE... IF GIVEN THE CHOICE BASS RAIDER OR BASS HUNTER? SEEMS TO BE SOME PRICING DIFFERENCES. I'M GOING DOWN THIS WEEK OR NEXT TO BUY EITHER BRAND IN 10FT.
THANKS
flacrawdad23 reply :
I ended up buying a Basstender 11.3, it has more room for a good size deck. You can see my pic on page 54, more stable for me.
flacrawdad23 reply :
Another view of the Basstender 11.3
shawnmc reply :
Just picked up a new 10E this morning. Does anyone use or think a kayak cart like the one in the link would work to transport the boat a little ways and help with loading/unloading in my truck? http://www.amazon.com/Malone-Clipper-Deluxe-Universal-Kayak/dp/B004GYYY1W/ref=pd_sbs_sg_1
timsampson reply :
On 7/6/2013 at 2:36 AM, shawnmc said:Just picked up a new 10E this morning. Does anyone use or think a kayak cart like the one in the link would work to transport the boat a little ways and help with loading/unloading in my truck? http://www.amazon.com/Malone-Clipper-Deluxe-Universal-Kayak/dp/B004GYYY1W/ref=pd_sbs_sg_1
Crap man not worth it, to centered raider wants to tip over, tried it!
pawnature reply :
On 6/14/2012 at 12:42 AM, jaaron01 said:What size anchors are you guys using, and having good results with? I've had several occasions were I wished I'd had and anchor, but can't decide on what size/shape to get. Thought I'd ask others.
I use a gallon or gallon and half jug filled with sand. I do a lot of river fishing and if it hangs all I've lost is a jug of sand.
badsters reply :
On 7/5/2013 at 9:49 AM, timsampson said:I got the major cuts all done at Lowes but did the rest myself, quite enjoyable at that!!
Great pics thanks for sharing. Being so much higher than the floor, do the platforms make the boat "top heavy? It appears you sit maybe 1 - 1.5 feet higher then standard seats? Thanks in advanced.
BassMasterOkie reply :
ANY THOUGHTS ON THE BEST FISHFINDER TO PURCHASE WHEN I PURCHASE MY PELICAN? I REALIZE GIVEN THE DEPTH I'LL MOST OFTEN BE FISHING DETAILS MAY LACK...
sizzlefry reply :
On 7/6/2013 at 12:57 AM, BassMasterOkie said:WELL I REALIZE THIS QUESTION MOST LIKELY HAS BEEN ASKED BEFORE... IF GIVEN THE CHOICE BASS RAIDER OR BASS HUNTER? SEEMS TO BE SOME PRICING DIFFERENCES. I'M GOING DOWN THIS WEEK OR NEXT TO BUY EITHER BRAND IN 10FT.
THANKS
I like the bass hunter its pre wired for running lights has a livewell aerated and mine is rated for a 7 hp motor and I like its deep well to keep it more stable just depends on what you want to spend. I have both one just for pond ( bass raider) and the other I can take on small lakes(bass hunter).
BassMasterOkie reply :
On 7/5/2013 at 9:49 AM, timsampson said:I got the major cuts all done at Lowes but did the rest myself, quite enjoyable at that!!
GREAT JOB ON THE SEATS... I'M HOPING TO DO SOMTHING JUST LIKE IT WHEN I GET MINE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. I MAY HIT YOU UP FOR THE MEASUREMENTS IF YOU DONT MIND?
oldfoggy reply :
Larger attachment size????
I see the site now allows you to attach 750K to a post. This is a big jump from the 150K they previously allowed. Does anyone have information about this increase in file attachment size? This increase to 750K allows much better detail in a photo. I hope they stay with this.
Bomber7 reply :
OK broke down this weekend and decided to put a floor in - didn't take long - just went to Lowe's with my measurements (had to purchase a full sheet of plywood since they didn't have any project pieces) got the piece I needed cut out and have some extra plywood now - got some marine carpet they had which matched the color of my boat (gray). Stapled it down nice and tight. I put two handles on the front part so I could lift it in and out if needed. I'll install some tie down points for my milk crate and battery later.
tnriverluver reply :
On 7/8/2013 at 8:07 AM, Bomber7 said:OK broke down this weekend and decided to put a floor in - didn't take long - just went to Lowe's with my measurements (had to purchase a full sheet of plywood since they didn't have any project pieces) got the piece I needed cut out and have some extra plywood now - got some marine carpet they had which matched the color of my boat (gray). Stapled it down nice and tight. I put two handles on the front part so I could lift it in and out if needed. I'll install some tie down points for my milk crate and battery later.
I had considered a floor for my Basshunter but after having my boat totally swamped this weekend twice by ski boats one a large lake I have now changed my mind. On the bright side I learned my boat still floats just fine when full of water!!!!
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/8/2013 at 8:43 AM, tnriverluver said:I had considered a floor for my Basshunter but after having my boat totally swamped this weekend twice by ski boats one a large lake I have now changed my mind. On the bright side I learned my boat still floats just fine when full of water!!!!
well I only take mine to 5 mph no wake lakes - however I did get caught in a down pour once - but it's marine carpet and I can lift the floor out to dry if needed.
shawnmc reply :
Took my 10E out today for the first time. Loaded and unloaded it in the back of my truck with no real problems. I will still like some sort of dolly/wheels for the back to help. The boat was very stable, much more than the 10ft and 12ft Tracker jon boats I had. No mods yet although I may add a floor to help with standing.
tfultz reply :
With a Little help from a friend I was finally able to get a picture of my boat on here. Thanks again oldfoggy!! Its not the best picture..
rockchalk06 reply :
On 7/8/2013 at 5:42 PM, tfultz said:
downsize1.jpg With a Little help from a friend I was finally able to get a picture of my boat on here. Thanks again oldfoggy!! Its not the best picture..
That looks amazing man!
I like the paddles on the side. How do you go about stowing your rods in the 8 footer? I am trying to make something to store them on the sides, but coming up short?
tfultz reply :
I've been trying to come up with a way to store rods since I bought it new in 2009. Like you I haven't found a good way. I'm really picky when it comes to mounting stuff to my boat. Has got to be functional, not in the way and pleasing to the eye. If you come up with an idea let me know!!On 7/8/2013 at 5:54 PM, rockchalk06 said:That looks amazing man!
I like the paddles on the side. How do you go about stowing your rods in the 8 footer? I am trying to make something to store them on the sides, but coming up short?
tfultz reply :
http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/tfultz196/media/049_zps60c853e0.jpg.html Two Optima blue tops and my on board charger.
timsampson reply :
On 7/8/2013 at 8:07 AM, Bomber7 said:OK broke down this weekend and decided to put a floor in - didn't take long - just went to Lowe's with my measurements (had to purchase a full sheet of plywood since they didn't have any project pieces) got the piece I needed cut out and have some extra plywood now - got some marine carpet they had which matched the color of my boat (gray). Stapled it down nice and tight. I put two handles on the front part so I could lift it in and out if needed. I'll install some tie down points for my milk crate and battery later.
Looks good man! I like the idea of the handles, took mine out this weekend twice and got the floor soaked on Friday, found them Saturday morning warped really bad, so what I did was soaked them again, laid them flat on the ground in the sun and parked my Silverado right on them, and they are now straight as an arrow, just a little advice if you get them wet and they head to the warping way!
timsampson reply :
On 7/6/2013 at 7:38 PM, badsters said:Great pics thanks for sharing. Being so much higher than the floor, do the platforms make the boat "top heavy? It appears you sit maybe 1 - 1.5 feet higher then standard seats? Thanks in advanced.
Its not too bad, as long as whoever you are with aren't trying to do gymnastics on the boat you should be fine, I measured it out in comparison to the "stock" seat and im only 5 inches higher, it just looks higher since its a pedestal instead of the old bar system.
timsampson reply :
On 7/8/2013 at 8:54 AM, Bomber7 said:well I only take mine to 5 mph no wake lakes - however I did get caught in a down pour once - but it's marine carpet and I can lift the floor out to dry if needed.
Also, if you haven't make sure you use outdoor carpet glue otherwise the carpet will just peel up and wear out the staples!
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/9/2013 at 2:47 AM, timsampson said:Also, if you haven't make sure you use outdoor carpet glue otherwise the carpet will just peel up and wear out the staples!
Thanks for the tip Tim - didn't glue it down just the staples - where can I get the glue at - didn't check Lowes when I was there.
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/8/2013 at 9:28 PM, tfultz said:http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/tfultz196/media/049_zps60c853e0.jpg.html Two Optima blue tops and my on board charger.
nice looking boat - thanks for sharing
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/8/2013 at 5:54 PM, rockchalk06 said:That looks amazing man!
I like the paddles on the side. How do you go about stowing your rods in the 8 footer? I am trying to make something to store them on the sides, but coming up short?
I found these at Bass pro - holds four poles - I took it out this morning first time since installing these and my floor - everything worked out great, well except that the fish weren't biting but then again a bad day of fishing is still better then a good day at work lol.
Ratherbfishing reply :
A helpful tip: Don't store the boat in the back of your truck (unless you first turn it upside down). If you do and it rains very much, you will spend a great deal of time draining the water that not only collects on the outside but also that which seeps inside the boat. It's this latter water that will take forever to remove!
tfultz reply :
Seen a few post about using anchors. Any one consider a stake out/push pole? Would save space and weight. Checked some out and finally found one that's affordable and a good length. TnAstick.com Might have to have one for myself. Find my self pushing through skinny water with my paddles. Just a thought..
Bomber7 reply :
I bought and installed the big foot switch I have read so much about - also bought a handle extender for the TM so I can sit in the middle of the boat and still steer it - I pretty much go out alone. Working on making something to hold the battery and my milk crate - I'll post pictures when finish. Man I didn't think I was gonna put so many mods into this little boat - but after seeing all the things here which most seem to make fishing more comfortable and easier. Thanks to everyone for your ideas and suggestion. I have one sweet little ride now ....... next up a trailer lol which I said I wouldn't need but now I'm thinking it will be much easier launching and loading.
k9gee reply :
On 5/6/2013 at 10:00 AM, flacrawdad23 said:Another view.
could you please post pics of the compartments i have a basstender and im about to start building a floor and i wanna make the compartments you got. if need be i can send you my phone number and you can text me the pics. thanks.
Bozz reply :
Just a silly observation that I haven't seen mentioned...those horizontal ridges in the bottom of the Pelican Bass Raider...they are actually a lower seating position by rotating the seat rails. That's just one of those "duh" moments I had today. Not that I care to sit lower but maybe a kid or the wife would. I have personally cancelled out that option with my new carpeted floor.
clay62 reply :
I haven't posted here in a while but I do check the site on occasion. I rescued a lawn cart that was rusting away, and bought new wheels for it. The tires were dry rotted but the rest of the cart was ok. I made a small platform to bolt to the frame of the cart to serve a dual purpose when needed. This platform has guides to center my boat and can be removed easily by taking out four carriage bolts. I made the platform from left over treated wood I had from another project. I'm going to modify the handle that is a little bouncy, but otherwise this cart will serve to haul my boat in to small ponds that don't have a road for my trailer. I admire all the modifications and ideas presented here. Hope this gives someone else some ideas about a cart. This cart can be managed by one person without much trouble. I will try to post some pictures.
Zoff reply :
I just converted my old Minn Kota Edge 45 bow mount to a transom mount but still stowes like a bow mount and has the foot control. Tried it today and worked great. Turns on a dime though.
zachb34 reply :
How exactly did you do this? Pictures?On 7/22/2013 at 8:19 AM, Zoff said:I just converted my old Minn Kota Edge 45 bow mount to a transom mount but still stowes like a bow mount and has the foot control. Tried it today and worked great. Turns on a dime though.
rizzo777 reply :
Ive been looking everywhere for one of these bass raider 10 boats and cannot find any for sale on craigslist. These little boats look perfect for where I fish. Dont want to spend 200$ shipping!
Fishes in trees reply :
rizzo777 - where do you live at? Rogers Lures in Liberty MO, has these on sale right now.
rizzo777 reply :
Western NY
Zoff reply :
On 7/23/2013 at 8:06 AM, zachb34 said:How exactly did you do this? Pictures?
Going to get pics and an explanation in a day or two.
imwithtuxedo reply :
First post here. Got lots of good ideas for my 8' Bass Hunter off of this thread.
Currently working on a homemade rudder. Will post pics soon.
tnriverluver reply :
On 7/25/2013 at 5:42 AM, imwithtuxedo said:First post here. Got lots of good ideas for my 8' Bass Hunter off of this thread.
Currently working on a homemade rudder. Will post pics soon.
I love my bass hunter but I suggest you do what I am doing to mine. These boats will fill with water very fast if you are moving quickly in ruff water and there are two vent holes back towards the back of the boat. If or when you flood the floor of the boat that water will then leak into the pontoons (rain will do the same). I am in the carpet cleaning business so it was easy for me to suck that water back out but others may not find it too easy. Also that dry storage ain;t dry once water gets in the hull. I plan on plugging those holes up. Basshunter says they are there for air expansion during temp changes. I will leave the storage hatches a little loose or drill a hole somewhere else where this water cannot get in. I managed to completely submarine my boat a couple of weekends ago trying out my new 2.5 merc. Was moving and stepped up to the front of my boat where my dog, battery, and trolling motor, were also. These little boats still float just fine when completely full of water 
imwithtuxedo reply :
On 7/25/2013 at 6:09 AM, tnriverluver said:I love my bass hunter but I suggest you do what I am doing to mine. These boats will fill with water very fast if you are moving quickly in ruff water and there are two vent holes back towards the back of the boat. If or when you flood the floor of the boat that water will then leak into the pontoons (rain will do the same). I am in the carpet cleaning business so it was easy for me to suck that water back out but others may not find it too easy. Also that dry storage ain;t dry once water gets in the hull. I plan on plugging those holes up. Basshunter says they are there for air expansion during temp changes. I will leave the storage hatches a little loose or drill a hole somewhere else where this water cannot get in. I managed to completely submarine my boat a couple of weekends ago trying out my new 2.5 merc. Was moving and stepped up to the front of my boat where my dog, battery, and trolling motor, were also. These little boats still float just fine when completely full of water
Mine is an older model without the vent holes. I've got a fair bit of water in mine over the years (even one time completely full at Lake Konowa) being here in Oklahoma where the wind blows the white caps up pretty quickly. I carry a small sump pump with a 4' length of water hose in my milk crate for just these occasions. clips onto the battery and clears the water really quickly as I head to shore.
pawnature reply :
On 7/25/2013 at 7:16 AM, imwithtuxedo said:Mine is an older model without the vent holes. I've got a fair bit of water in mine over the years (even one time completely full at Lake Konowa) being here in Oklahoma where the wind blows the white caps up pretty quickly. I carry a small sump pump with a 4' length of water hose in my milk crate for just these occasions. clips onto the battery and clears the water really quickly as I head to shore.
I'v got the Bass Raider 10E with a 4.5 outboard and have never had a bit of problem with water, except for rain. When I'm on the lake though I never hit a boat wave head on which I wouldn't do in any small boat. The Raider rides higher in the water to compared to the hound.
Docktercolin reply :
Just bought a new motor for my little bass raider and thought i'd show everyone the new set up. It's a 3.5 tohatsu and it is so nice to get to get around the lake a little faster. Last year I just had the 40lb trolling motor and it got about 3 mph, with the 3.5 I am getting about 10-12 mph. Not blazing but getting to different fishing spots is so so much faster.With the new motor came a complete rebuild and I think it came out great. Moved the trolling motor and fish finder to the front and the battery to the rear. I tried some stuff from Yak Gear, pad eyes with bungees on each side of the boat to serve as rod holders.(kicked a rig off last year) A z-ring on the front for tying off the anchor. The Yak Gear stuff uses trigrip riviots and we will see how well they hold up over time. 
imwithtuxedo reply :
Got my rudder finished tonight. Went to Home Depot and picked up some supplies. I used two braces for fence building and bent them to give me a mount to the transom. I used a piece of 2" aluminum, and a cotter pin and clip to hold the aluminum in the bracket. The rudder swings freely in the bracket. Used a piece of plastic I had, similar to plexiglass. Will replace this with a piece of sheet aluminum or thicker plexiglass after I decide if this one is big enough. It's 5.5" x 12" right now. When you swing the rudder all the way up it rests on the transom. This will be great as I almost always fish by myself in my 8' Bass Hunter. I can only upload 150kb of photos so I chose one.
timsampson reply :
Just wondering if anyone has any written plans, pictures, and supply list for a rudder, im sick of constantly working the TM!!!! Circles make me dizzy!! I would like something similar to a TM bracket that you can clamp down.
timsampson reply :
On 7/26/2013 at 5:12 AM, Docktercolin said:Just bought a new motor for my little bass raider and thought i'd show everyone the new set up. It's a 3.5 tohatsu and it is so nice to get to get around the lake a little faster. Last year I just had the 40lb trolling motor and it got about 3 mph, with the 3.5 I am getting about 10-12 mph. Not blazing but getting to different fishing spots is so so much faster.With the new motor came a complete rebuild and I think it came out great. Moved the trolling motor and fish finder to the front and the battery to the rear. I tried some stuff from Yak Gear, pad eyes with bungees on each side of the boat to serve as rod holders.(kicked a rig off last year) A z-ring on the front for tying off the anchor. The Yak Gear stuff uses trigrip riviots and we will see how well they hold up over time.
If you don't mind me asking where and how much was the motor, Im in Ft Hood, Tx and im having a hard time finding one for under 899$ I think this is ridiculous.
tnriverluver reply :
I was able to buy my new 2013 2.5 hp Merc on Ebay for $700 shipped back in January. Every where else was $850 and up. I would dig around on there and see what you can find. The Mercs have actually been cheaper than the Tohatsus lately because of factory incentives I think.
Docktercolin reply :
The tohatsu was 950 with shipping free. Did a bunch of shopping around and found this to be the cheapest. you can find other motors cheaper but they are suspect and who knows if you could get parts. Tohatsu makes all the merc's and nissans under 30 hp and from what I have read they are the largest outboard mfg. in the world. I agree 1000 bucks for a 3.5 hp is crazy. Look at the prices for 250 hp models, you could buy a new car for that kind of coin.
Money aside I am happy now that I have another way of getting back to the dock. Last year I started wondering how hard it was on the trolling motor running on 5 for ten- fifteen minutes at a time. Has any one had a trolling motor fail? I have the Minkota C2 40lb. and it's been pretty warm sometimes when i pull it out of the water after a little cruise back in. And true Merc have rebates right now but I think it is dealer cash so still the same.
On side note, I was wanting to post a couple more pics but every time I try it says max of 64mb? Also I thought the fourm was going to start allowing 750kb
basshead1 reply :
Don't laugh but I picked up one of them Chinese Ebay Hangkai 3.5 motors. I paid $360 shipped from China, took 2 weeks to get through customs but it was worth the wait. It idles at about the same speed as my electric motor at 5 and it gets me through some heavy currents that the electric failed me on. It runs about 8-12 mph depending on the wind and the current according to my gps. I mostly fish saltwater flats and passes and this little boat moves really nice and I have not needed the bilge pump. It floats like a bobber right over some big boat wakes.
Here is a pic of her in the Caloosahatchee River, downriver from the Big O. They have been draining the Big O and the water is nasty right now and not many fish in the big river but I did manage to find some in the creeks the other day.
I use a Harbor Freight 4x8 trailer to tow it with my minivan and it works great.
And yes that is a kayak paddle, works great when standing.
pawnature reply :
I've got my raider up for sale on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111131125574
Docktercolin reply :
Not laughing at all. you have a good looking rig. laid out just like mine,ha. I almost bought one of the hangkai's but had a little extra cash and been burned a couple times by cheeping out. How long have you had the hangkai? I'm gonna have to get a kayak paddle, have a little 48in and that long paddle would be great especially when pushing off in the shallow stuff. I know what you mean by a bobber, had the boat out Sat. and got into some of the biggest swells yet probably 4 feet. Think i've got whiplash.
Need to get a pic of mine out on the water where she lives. pics in the garage don't do her justice. Been going out three or four times a week and love this little boat and setup.
Up here they are draining down some lakes to fix dams and the water has been crappy all year.
Docktercolin reply :
Little pic of the fish finder mount, floor and Yak Gear pad eyes.
Docktercolin reply :
Sorry to be a post *****. think I got this pic thing figured out. Another pic of the ff mount.
basshead1 reply :
On 7/30/2013 at 8:02 AM, Docktercolin said:Not laughing at all. you have a good looking rig. laid out just like mine,ha. I almost bought one of the hangkai's but had a little extra cash and been burned a couple times by cheeping out. How long have you had the hangkai? I'm gonna have to get a kayak paddle, have a little 48in and that long paddle would be great especially when pushing off in the shallow stuff. I know what you mean by a bobber, had the boat out Sat. and got into some of the biggest swells yet probably 4 feet. Think i've got whiplash.
Need to get a pic of mine out on the water where she lives. pics in the garage don't do her justice. Been going out three or four times a week and love this little boat and setup.
Up here they are draining down some lakes to fix dams and the water has been crappy all year.
Thanks. I have only had it for a month but the Hangkai has not failed me yet. Starts on the first pull and it sips fuel. 1 tank(1.1 liter) lasts me 2 outings but I do lots of drifting and use the electric when working the mangroves.
On 7/30/2013 at 8:34 AM, Docktercolin said:Sorry to be a post *****. think I got this pic thing figured out. Another pic of the ff mount.
This may be how I rig mine. I am hesitant to drill holes.
Docktercolin reply :
Ya, I was kinda hesitant too. I looked into multiple ways to attach things too the boat. Screws are notorius for pulling out, and once the threads are gone it's just a hole. People have talked about rivnuts, they look like they dont grip that much area. The Yak gear tri-grip rivots spread out three eighths of an inch and are rated for 200lbs. For good measure I also used some 3m marine grade sealant behind the pad eyes and in the rivot hole. We will see how they hold up. I have seen a bunch of people using these things on yaks. figure if one of pad eyes break I can just cut the rivot, back side will fall into the boat and I can put on a new pad eye and rivot. After a couple I might even stand the boat on end and fish out the rivot parts.
Thought about doing rod holders but im good with what I got, don't want too many holes.
Glad you are having good luck with the hangkia. Gonna be ticked if that thing turns out to be a great motor and I spent way too much!
PIc of the Trigrip rivot in some eighth in. Kydex
Zoff reply :
Some quick pics of how I mounted my TM.
The mechanism has been turned around and I had to mount the foot control backwards but it works really well.
rizzo777 reply :
Is it possible to put this boat above an equinox with roof racks? One for sale I can get for like 300 bu t its a 2 hr drive and I have no trailer!
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
In a pinch you can move it that way if you have help but it's not practical for a day of fishing
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
I'm getting about 4-5 hrs. of moderate to mod. hvy use of a 32 lb trolling motor with my Bass Raider. Is about average?
Docktercolin reply :
Cool little set up. I'd like to have foot control. It's a pain to control and fish at the same time. That's why I put the wife up front!
What hardware did you use?
Zoff reply :
I used butterfly wall anchors and silicon sealant to hold the foot control and mounting surface to the boat. The TM is held with standard bolts.
tnriverluver reply :
On 8/3/2013 at 1:13 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:I'm getting about 4-5 hrs. of moderate to mod. hvy use of a 32 lb trolling motor with my Bass Raider. Is about average?
What size battery. I can go all day and then some with my 40lb MK and a group 29 Walmart battery.
pawnature reply :
On 8/4/2013 at 12:15 AM, tnriverluver said:What size battery. I can go all day and then some with my 40lb MK and a group 29 Walmart battery.
Same here. The most I've use with hard fishing all day was 20%
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 8/4/2013 at 1:06 AM, pawnature said:Same here. The most I've use with hard fishing all day was 20%
Same battery. That's the kind of life I was getting last year. I need to check over the motor and my charger to be sure everything is right. Thanks for the replies.
Docktercolin reply :
Good idea with wall anchors. Would have never thought of that one. Doesn't look like that set up takes up too much space either.
Zoff reply :
It does not take much space. I think the seat is only 3 or 4 inches from the original farthest rear position. A smaller TM Battery would fit under it. May do that as the 27 series makes the front a bit heavy with a second person in there.
Brian6428 reply :
On 8/2/2013 at 8:33 AM, rizzo777 said:Is it possible to put this boat above an equinox with roof racks? One for sale I can get for like 300 bu t its a 2 hr drive and I have no trailer!
As long as it has roof racks you can. Just buy some ratcheting straps and strap it up there. It takes at least 2 people, preferably 3 to get it up/down, though.
Brian
tnriverluver reply :
Delete please. wrong topic
tnriverluver reply :
On 8/3/2013 at 1:13 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:I'm getting about 4-5 hrs. of moderate to mod. hvy use of a 32 lb trolling motor with my Bass Raider. Is about average?
I will expand on my above post a little. I trolled for 6 hours non-stop today spider rigging for crappie fighting a 10-15 mph wind using speeds 3-5 on my MK 45 Edge bow mount on my 16 ft Alumacraft bass boat. I never even once shut this motor down today while fishing. This boat has a Walmart group 29 that is now 5 years old and I had no noticeable loss of power when I loaded it on the trailer. Never cranked the outboard the entire day. If you are only getting 4-5 hours with a 30lb motor you are most likely in need of a new battery if not right now very soon!!!
Bomber7 reply :
wow talk about good luck - when I first set up my little pond boat I bought a 30lb MK TM and it has run pretty well for the 2 months I had it. I have been thinking that I should have gone with a little more thrust but figured I would just run this one for at least a year or so.
Anyway the other day out it start making a loud noise when on and in the water - almost sounded like an outboard motor. Of course this was no good for the fishies - scared them. So I got back to the dock right away - didn't want to have to use my paddle for the first time lol. So when I got home I took the prop off and the little pin that turns the prop broke in half - not sure how that happen - anyway it was late Sunday night and I wanted to go out today (my days off are Sun, Mon and Tues) so I made a replacement out of an nail - it was the same diameter and I cut it down to fit. Thought this would work - NOT - no sooner did I push off from the dock it started making the noise again. So I loaded it all back up - yeah after 30 seconds that sucked. I took the prop off and found that my make shift pin was bent - so I thought something else is wrong with the motor - keep in mind this is my first boat ever and I'm still learning the ropes. So I decided to go back to where I bought it (Dick's) and see if they would just credit me the amount I paid for this one 2 months ago and let me get the 55lb. They did and I got it all set up and set out to the lake once again. That 55lb really scoots my boat along and quite too - caught 3 nice size Crappie (keepers) and a few Large Mouths.
So it all worked out in the end - got my upgraded motor. I'll be heading to the lake again tomorrow AM.
Chatter Bait reply :
I recently bought a used Pelican Bass Raider 10E. I went through some growing pains but thank you to all who have contributed to this thread. My set up has the TM on the bow and I believe it's much easier to control + fish with it up front. I did upgraded from 30lb to 55lb thrust motor mainly because the 30lb had difficulty fighting windy days on the water. I always anchor on the main lake. I added two flush mount rod holders in the back and 2 Scotty rod holders on each side. I added the floor with carpet which makes it so much easier to stand up. The floor is in 2 sections for easy removal and install. The rear section has the straps for the battery box. I have a ram mount for the depth finder/gps up front. I did experience tracking issues (especially when solo) and rigged a rudder which works like a champ. I also made my own dolly to take it across the street to a small pond by myself.
tfultz reply :
On 8/3/2013 at 1:13 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:I'm getting about 4-5 hrs. of moderate to mod. hvy use of a 32 lb trolling motor with my Bass Raider. Is about average?
Im using two Optima blue tops. Group 29 i think. Have got around 15 hours, half the battery. Never touched the second one. GPS said i traveled 9 miles one way. Never felt any loss of power. Using a 45LB thrust Minn Kota Traxxis, variable speed. This was over a weekend camping trip.
jaaron01 reply :
Bomber 7- sent you a PM about your carpet.
tfultz reply :
Think i'll try putting together a rudder. been reserching it for a bit, think i have it figured out!
imwithtuxedo reply :
On 8/18/2013 at 11:57 PM, tfultz said:Think i'll try putting together a rudder. been reserching it for a bit, think i have it figured out!
My rudder I built on page 59 worked out really well. I had zero problems with the boat drifting sideways or spinning. It was the most enjoyable day I've had since I got my little boat. The boat tracked really straight even here in Oklahoma with a 20mph wind that day. My rudder design freely swings up and down, it stayed down in the water and would raise up over some vegetation that I got into in the shallows.
timsampson reply :
On 8/19/2013 at 12:07 AM, imwithtuxedo said:My rudder I built on page 59 worked out really well. I had zero problems with the boat drifting sideways or spinning. It was the most enjoyable day I've had since I got my little boat. The boat tracked really straight even here in Oklahoma with a 20mph wind that day. My rudder design freely swings up and down, it stayed down in the water and would raise up over some vegetation that I got into in the shallows.
Can you clamp it on to make sure it stays or does it just lay on the transom mount?
imwithtuxedo reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 7:17 AM, timsampson said:Can you clamp it on to make sure it stays or does it just lay on the transom mount?
Mine is bolted to the transom.
Bomber7 reply :
Here is a picture of my rudder - used an MK TM mounting bracket I got off e-bay ($30), a steal pipe and an old road sign. Cut it down to size and screwed it to the pipe - works great and the last two days has been pretty windy and I had no issues.
jaaron01 reply :
That's and awesome design, seems like i've seen that setup before. It works great as well!!!!
tfultz reply :
Hopefully my parts will be here this week!
timsampson reply :
On 8/21/2013 at 2:33 AM, Bomber7 said:Here is a picture of my rudder - used an MK TM mounting bracket I got off e-bay ($30), a steal pipe and an old road sign. Cut it down to size and screwed it to the pipe - works great and the last two days has been pretty windy and I had no issues.
How much do you want for that rudder?!!!!!!!!
Bomber7 reply :
On 8/21/2013 at 3:05 AM, jaaron01 said:That's and awesome design, seems like i've seen that setup before. It works great as well!!!!
yeah can't remember where I got that idea from lol
Bomber7 reply :
On 8/21/2013 at 8:16 AM, timsampson said:How much do you want for that rudder?!!!!!!!!
One million dollars {said in Dr Evil voice} LOL
basshead1 reply :
I think I need to make a rudder too. A couple of the local bass lakes are electric only and if I put the motor in front it is almost impossible to keep straight with any wind at all.
My outboard works nice as a rudder when trolling the mangroves though.
Bomber7 reply :
Made some changes to my boat set up - I got rid of my milk carton - I kept hitting it with my chair. Anyway I made out pieces of wood I had and wrapped them in some carpet I had left over from the floor. I mounted them to hold the battery and my bait bucket. It gives me a lot more floor space.
Bomber7 reply :
On 8/21/2013 at 3:05 AM, jaaron01 said:That's and awesome design, seems like i've seen that setup before. It works great as well!!!!
Hey Jim wondering if you have ever fished at Zorinsky Lake - I went over there yesterday and boy did I have some good fishing - well at least bass and a few catfish which were a surprise since I wasn't trying for them. I caught one on a bass jig and another with a minnow when I anchored fishing for crappie - struck out on crappie though. But the bass fishing was pretty good. Might have to hit Zorinsky more often - I usually go to Walnut or Wehrspann.
timsampson reply :
Hey I just got my hands on a 1987 sears gamefisher 3hp motor and I need a fuel tank, anyone have a lock on one? Need to get my lil lip ripper going fast!!!
BassMasterOkie reply :
Well I finally purchased my Bass Raider 10E.. I'm looking for the measurements for a floor? I've seen some of the pics and they look awesome!
Thanks!
CC268 reply :
What do you guys do for little trollys for transporting in and out of a truck bed?
CC268 reply :
Hey where are you guys mounting your pole holders?? I have the trolling motor on the front of my Pond Prowler with the rudder on the rear. If I am trolling with a crankbait or something would it be best to have the pole holder facing backwards or does it matter?
Pnickolai reply :
I have just recently purchased the 10E version of the pelican bass raider boat and have taken it out 5 times this year. It is powered by a Minn Kota 45 lb trolling motor running off of 2 deep cycle batteries housed in the Minn Kota battery boxes. I currently have the two batteries wired in parallel utilizing the built in electric wiring. So one battery is in front of the boat using the Pelican plug adapter and the other battery in the back of the boat by the trolling motor connected in parallel. This layout helps distribute the weight in the boat and increase the battery life. Also have oars that are mounted on the sides of the boat which I used some oar holders purchased from gander mountain. I have just recently installed a humminbird 597 ci DI fish finder that uses the quick disconnect bracket attached to the flat portion on the right side pontoon using 2 sided sticky tape which has work very well. The transducer is also mounted to the trolling motor which has turned out to work very well. I currently use my truck bed to transport the boat from lake to lake. All in all I would recommend this boat to any one. Can provide information or tips regarding the boat or accessories to any one in need.
tfultz reply :
Almost finished with my rudder. Gotta say im pretty impresed with the results. Pics comimg soon!
JD96 reply :
I got a bass raider 10E that I'm planning on being rough on. Pretty cheap setup. Just one 50lb TM. And a deep cycle battery.
drag it up ramps, put it in the truck, and I keep it in my basement. Super cool fun boat, I can stand and fish, keep my TM in the rear, and keep space to stand up front.
tfultz reply :
Here's a few pics. Not 100% but close.
tfultz reply :
For the people that dont wanna drill holes in there boat to mount stuff, found something for ya. Its called VHB tape made by 3M. Got my hands on some and it is STICKY!! Seen it on Modern Marvels. Not badly priced. But beware!! Once its stuck..its stuck!!!
cmaher reply :
Hi Everyone, I just picked up a Bass Raider 10E with a 55lb Minkota motor. I have been reading this forum for the last week and want to thank everyone for your ideas for rigging this boat. The one question I have is, when you run the trolling motor in the front are you turning the top control head of the trolling motor around so the prop is faceing the correct operating direction? Hope you guys can share some info on this I want to hit the water for the firt trip this weekend.
Thanks
cmaher reply :
Why is the line thru my text?
CC268 reply :
On 10/23/2013 at 6:56 PM, cmaher said:
Hi Everyone, I just picked up a Bass Raider 10E with a 55lb Minkota motor. I have been reading this forum for the last week and want to thank everyone for your ideas for rigging this boat. The one question I have is, when you run the trolling motor in the front are you turning the top control head of the trolling motor around so the prop is faceing the correct operating direction? Hope you guys can share some info on this I want to hit the water for the firt trip this weekend.
Thanks
Yep just switch the head around and you are good to go. Make a rudder for lakes...if you are fishing rivers like I do a lot I don't use the rudder at all.
Mainebass1984 reply :
I just got a great deal on a Bass Raider 10 E. It doesn't leak but you can see where it has been dragged a few times. anu suggestiong on what to use to prevent any further dragging damage ??
cmaher reply :
Thanks for your help CC268
Bozz reply :
On 10/23/2013 at 6:56 PM, cmaher said:
Hi Everyone, I just picked up a Bass Raider 10E with a 55lb Minkota motor. I have been reading this forum for the last week and want to thank everyone for your ideas for rigging this boat. The one question I have is, when you run the trolling motor in the front are you turning the top control head of the trolling motor around so the prop is faceing the correct operating direction? Hope you guys can share some info on this I want to hit the water for the firt trip this weekend.
Thanks
Hey CMaher,
As for the line through your text...if you mistakenly had the button ticked up there in the menu...the one that has the S with a line through it... it makes that line through your text until it's unticked. :-)
As for turning the head around...Yes. On my 50 MinnKota, there is one bolt that has to be removed and lift the head up carefully and reverse it. Don't yank too hard on the wiring while working it up. You could wear through the insulation. Don't ask me how I know this. You'll have enough to lift it up and turn it 180 degrees.
Enjoy!
cmaher reply :
What are the floor measurement you guys using for the plywood floor?
Bomber7 reply :
On 10/27/2013 at 1:02 AM, cmaher said:What are the floor measurement you guys using for the plywood floor?
I just measured my floor and took the measurements to Lowes - I bought a sheet of plywood and they cut it for me - fits perfectly. my floor width is the same front and back - so I just measured that and the length I needed. I know you asked this a while ago - I haven't been on this thread in a while so hope it helps.
Ronbo reply :
Hey guys, great thread! I have been reading it for a while now and have gotten a lot of good ideas from all of you.
I am in central Illinois and I have a Bass Raider 10E with a 40# Minnkota Endura Max. Great little boat, but I'd like to try to get a little more speed. Have any of you tried running 2 trolling motors? I am wondering if it would be worth putting a 30# in front and my 40# in back. I have a Walmart 29 series battery and so far have never run it down past 75% with up to 5 to 6 hours fishing. I am wondering if I could occasionally run both motors for extra speed without draining the battery too fast. I suppose I could add a second battery too, but I'd rather not add any more weight if I don't have to. Anybody tried this?
Brian6428 reply :
On 11/27/2013 at 3:39 AM, Ronbo said:Hey guys, great thread! I have been reading it for a while now and have gotten a lot of good ideas from all of you.
I am in central Illinois and I have a Bass Raider 10E with a 40# Minnkota Endura Max. Great little boat, but I'd like to try to get a little more speed. Have any of you tried running 2 trolling motors? I am wondering if it would be worth putting a 30# in front and my 40# in back. I have a Walmart 29 series battery and so far have never run it down past 75% with up to 5 to 6 hours fishing. I am wondering if I could occasionally run both motors for extra speed without draining the battery too fast. I suppose I could add a second battery too, but I'd rather not add any more weight if I don't have to. Anybody tried this?
First off, welcome to Bass Resource! Stop by the Introductions thread and introduce yourself.
I personally only have one TM, but I have seen some guys in the same boat you and I have with two transom mounted trolling motors. I don't see why you couldn't do what you are saying (one TM in front, one in back). As for running 1 or 2 batteries, I personally would start off trying to use only one battery, and if you need more run time go buy another. This way you can see whether or not you need another battery. One thing to consider is how you would steer both motors while they are both running, it could be a little tricky. Ultimately though 2 TM's sounds like a good idea, both for speed and battery life.
Brian
Edit: Added bonus to having the 10E model is that you can wire both Trolling motors to one battery without running cords all over the deck!
tnriverluver reply :
On 11/27/2013 at 8:50 AM, Brian6428 said:First off, welcome to Bass Resource! Stop by the Introductions thread and introduce yourself.
I personally only have one TM, but I have seen some guys in the same boat you and I have with two transom mounted trolling motors. I don't see why you couldn't do what you are saying (one TM in front, one in back). As for running 1 or 2 batteries, I personally would start off trying to use only one battery, and if you need more run time go buy another. This way you can see whether or not you need another battery. One thing to consider is how you would steer both motors while they are both running, it could be a little tricky. Ultimately though 2 TM's sounds like a good idea, both for speed and battery life.
Brian
Edit: Added bonus to having the 10E model is that you can wire both Trolling motors to one battery without running cords all over the deck!
Think you would be better off getting a stronger trolling motor rather than trying to run 2 at once. The additional drag created will offset much of the speed. Especially if you end up needing 2 batteries. Yeah more money but it is still a B.O.A.T. LOL
Brian6428 reply :
On 11/27/2013 at 9:09 AM, tnriverluver said:Think you would be better off getting a stronger trolling motor rather than trying to run 2 at once. The additional drag created will offset much of the speed. Especially if you end up needing 2 batteries. Yeah more money but it is still a B.O.A.T. LOL
Good point, I didn't think of that. Only downside to that is the fact that when I troll and fish (aka no wind haha), even 1st gear on my 30lb TM is too fast to fish even a spinnerbait. I feel like a 70 or 80lb tm would be strictly for going from spot to spot and would be too fast to fish while trolling in first gear. Either way B.O.A.T. holds true!
tnriverluver reply :
On 11/27/2013 at 11:18 AM, Brian6428 said:Good point, I didn't think of that. Only downside to that is the fact that when I troll and fish (aka no wind haha), even 1st gear on my 30lb TM is too fast to fish even a spinnerbait. I feel like a 70 or 80lb tm would be strictly for going from spot to spot and would be too fast to fish while trolling in first gear. Either way B.O.A.T. holds true!
Get a variable speed motor and problem solved. I have the same problem with my MK40 on my 8 ft BassHunter.
Ronbo reply :
I got the idea from checking out the Twin Troller X10. It has 2 built in 36# motors and seems to scoot along pretty good. They claim that a 29 series battery will run both motors full speed for 3 hours so I would hope to still be able to get 5 or 6 hours fishing time out of it. Running a 40 and a 30 at the same time should be similar I'd think.
True one more powerful motor would be less drag, but I already have the 40 and another 30 would cost a lot less than buying a 55 and possibly give me more speed. I think 55 is as powerful as you can go with 12 volts anyway.
If I was fishing alone I would lock the front motor so it points straight ahead and control it with a foot switch. That way I could steer from the back and shut off the front motor when needed. I have seen a couple of videos on Youtube and the boats with 2 motors seem to move along pretty good. That would be handy if a guy wanted to get off the lake faster to get out of a storm or had some distance to cover to get to where you want to go. I was just hoping that someone else had already tried it and could lend some advice.
fishcat reply :
I still think a larger TM, like 55 lb thrust, is the way to go, instead of 2 TM's. You could control your drift using a drift sock. Bass Pro has them for $20-40. I plan to try this next spring.
fishcat reply :
On a different topic, has anyone assembled and used a small trailer from Harbor Freight? Sure looks like an inexpensive way to go for trailering the Pelican to local ponds. Any problems with these trailers?
eagle91 reply :
Yes I use one of the harbor freight boat trailers. I modified it to fit my Basshound 10.2 boat. It makes things alot easier to handle.
tnriverluver reply :
On 11/28/2013 at 4:47 AM, fishcat said:On a different toopic, has anyone assembled and used a small trailer from Harbor Freight? Sure looks like an inexpensive way to go for trailering the Pelican to local ponds. Any problems with these trailers?
I have one from Northern Tool (same thing) that I built to use behind my Goldwing. Several thousand miles and no problems. Replace the grease they have the bearings packed in. It appears to be vasoline. Also at some point try to put some better quality tires on it just for peace of mind.
fishcat reply :
Has anyone had water inside the shell of a Pelican Bass Raider? If so, where is it coming in? Along the middle seam? How would you get it out?
Montanaro reply :
im starting to lean towards these boats. how hard is it for one to put it in the back of a truck? it takes my dad and i to put his coleman crawdad in his truck. how well can you stand and fish? i can hardly fish sitting down which is why im ruling out most kayaks.
pawnature reply :
On 12/2/2013 at 4:32 AM, Montanaro said:im starting to lean towards these boats. how hard is it for one to put it in the back of a truck? it takes my dad and i to put his coleman crawdad in his truck. how well can you stand and fish? i can hardly fish sitting down which is why im ruling out most kayaks.
I am 61 years old and own a Bass Raider 10E and use my Toyota Tundra to haul it around all the time. Loading and unloading it by myself with not problem. I do have a harbor freight trailer though that I have used for a while also, just makes it a lot easier getting it in and out of the water with a 4.5 outboard.
As for standing and fishing, I have done it but not much of a fan for this even on a big boat.
fishcat reply :
I have the Pelican 8E. It weighs about 80 lbs. I sold my Coleman Crawdad because it was too long and heavy for me to handle alone. I can easily lift one end of the Pelican onto the tailgate of my pickup, and then walk to the back and push it up into the bed. In order to avoid scuffing the bottom of the plastic boat, I launch the boat on grass or a sandy beach, rather than a concrete boat ramp. I covered two 2x6 boards with indoor/outdoor carpet to fit across the molded slots of the pickup liner. Doing this keeps the Pelican sitting above the edge of my Ford Ranger and doesn't scuff it as I slide it in and out. (You can skip this with a full size pickup with a wider bed.) When it's not in use, I stand the Pelican upright against the garage wall in a "cradle" made from 2x4's, and run a strap from two screw eyes to hold it upright. Very slick setup. The Pelican runs well with a 40 lb Minn Kota on the front end.
fishcat reply :
I also use a Fishing Buddy 130 depth finder running on 6 AA lithium batteries. Bought a 22" Plano toolbox for storing all my stuff. Added a velcro strap on one side to keep rods from falling in the water. I use a smaller Cabelas AGM battery so I can carry it alone. I have never run it down. The secret is to use the trolling motor on speed #4 (20 amps), rather than #5 (40 amps), which uses double the amps. Also, carry an extra fuse, boat bailer (made from a plastic bleach jug), whistle, and wear your pfd. I don't stand up very often, since the seat keeps you pretty high in a Pelican bass raider.
py8pointer reply :
wow, glad i have come across this site. lots of cool mods done to these boats. I have done a couple to mine.
1. drain plug...didn't like it filling up with water when it rains. and it rains alot here in florida in the summer
2. rod hold downs... keeps em nice a secure on the move
3. handles for the sides of the boat....makes it easier to move when you have two people, not having to walk backwards
4. rudder....keeps her nice and straight
5. big foot switch... almost hands free now...turn it to one speed and step on the button
This is why i love this little boat.
Bomber7 reply :
On 12/6/2013 at 10:30 AM, py8pointer said:wow, glad i have come across this site. lots of cool mods done to these boats. I have done a couple to mine.
1. drain plug...didn't like it filling up with water when it rains. and it rains alot here in florida in the summer
2. rod hold downs... keeps em nice a secure on the move
3. handles for the sides of the boat....makes it easier to move when you have two people, not having to walk backwards
4. rudder....keeps her nice and straight
5. big foot switch... almost hands free now...turn it to one speed and step on the button
This is why i love this little boat.
These little boats are tons of fun - only got mine last year and even though I'm tied up with chasing whitetails right now and plus everything is frozen, I can't wait to hit the ponds in search of a whooper like you are holding there. Nice fish - I've have done plenty of different mods to my boat too - a lot of which I got the ideas from this thread. Plus it's fun looking at all the pictures people post of their rides.
py8pointer reply :
On 12/8/2013 at 5:36 AM, Bomber7 said:These little boats are tons of fun - only got mine last year and even though I'm tied up with chasing whitetails right now and plus everything is frozen, I can't wait to hit the ponds in search of a whooper like you are holding there. Nice fish - I've have done plenty of different mods to my boat too - a lot of which I got the ideas from this thread. Plus it's fun looking at all the pictures people post of their rides.
Hey Bomber7, good luck on chasing those whitetails. But i will have to say that it is my favorite thing to do is bow hunt whitetails. And had a good season up in Indiana. Just in the last year have i got back into fishing for the big ole bass, considering the whitetail hunting here in south Florida isn't worth a crap.
basshead1 reply :
I have bass fever right now
py8pointer.
We may need to share some spots.
I know a few good spots down here.
I know one that I have caught my 3 biggest bass and there are people around everywhere but I rarely see someone fishing.
Do you ever go to Babcock/Webb?
py8pointer reply :
On 12/10/2013 at 9:55 PM, basshead1 said:I have bass fever right now
py8pointer.
We may need to share some spots.
I know a few good spots down here.
I know one that I have caught my 3 biggest bass and there are people around everywhere but I rarely see someone fishing.
Do you ever go to Babcock/Webb?
I personally have not fished Babcock/webb, but my fishing partner has many times. and usually does well. Just to give you and idea of the fish he catches, since Jan1, he has caught over 1500 bass this year alone, and that is no joke.
Fishing Rhino reply :
This has to be the longest lived, most popular thread on the forum. Almost 200,000 views. 
Cheers!
basshead1 reply :
On 12/11/2013 at 8:32 PM, py8pointer said:I personally have not fished Babcock/webb, but my fishing partner has many times. and usually does well. Just to give you and idea of the fish he catches, since Jan1, he has caught over 1500 bass this year alone, and that is no joke.
I fish there pretty often in the winter. One day I caught over 20 bass in about 2 hours then it turned off.
I was just there on Thanksgiving and caught a nice 5 pounder but usually I catch lots of babies. I was searching all day on Thanksgiving and had no luck then 2 minutes after my wife called me telling me dinner is almost done it turned on.
I was late for dinner. lmao
BassMasterOkie reply :
On 12/6/2013 at 10:30 AM, py8pointer said:wow, glad i have come across this site. lots of cool mods done to these boats. I have done a couple to mine.
1. drain plug...didn't like it filling up with water when it rains. and it rains alot here in florida in the summer
2. rod hold downs... keeps em nice a secure on the move
3. handles for the sides of the boat....makes it easier to move when you have two people, not having to walk backwards
4. rudder....keeps her nice and straight
5. big foot switch... almost hands free now...turn it to one speed and step on the button
This is why i love this little boat.
All the mods I've made on my 10e have come from this site... if you have pics on the rudder I'd love to see. This has been my only real hurdle. LoL
BassMasterOkie reply :
I HAVE WHAT MAY BE A SILLY QUESTION REGARDING POWER FOR MY PRIMARY BATTERY AND FINDER. RIGHT NOW I'M USING TWO BATTERIES BUT WOULD PREFER TO SOMEHOW RUN BOTH OFF MY PRIMARY POWER BOX WITH TROLLING MOTOR. ANY THOUGHTS WELCOME.
zachb34 reply :
I do it all the time with no issues.On 12/14/2013 at 4:39 PM, BassMasterOkie said:I HAVE WHAT MAY BE A SILLY QUESTION REGARDING POWER FOR MY PRIMARY BATTERY AND FINDER. RIGHT NOW I'M USING TWO BATTERIES BUT WOULD PREFER TO SOMEHOW RUN BOTH OFF MY PRIMARY POWER BOX WITH TROLLING MOTOR. ANY THOUGHTS WELCOME.
tnriverluver reply :
On 12/14/2013 at 4:39 PM, BassMasterOkie said:I HAVE WHAT MAY BE A SILLY QUESTION REGARDING POWER FOR MY PRIMARY BATTERY AND FINDER. RIGHT NOW I'M USING TWO BATTERIES BUT WOULD PREFER TO SOMEHOW RUN BOTH OFF MY PRIMARY POWER BOX WITH TROLLING MOTOR. ANY THOUGHTS WELCOME.
I run my trolling motor, 3 Lowrance Elite units, and also serves as my cranking battery for a 20 hp Merc all on a single group 29 Walmart battery in my flatbottom. No issues of any kind.
basshead1 reply :
It is bass season down here and I have the fever so I hung up my kayak and I have been putting the Bass Raider to use.
I have already caught a couple 5 lbers and lost a 10lber(could've ate the 5lbers) at boat side.
I need a landing net to save my back and prevent the loss of another hawg.
Any recommendations?
I went through this whole thread again, took a week, and I think I know which mods I will make for this season.
I bought a fish finder earlier this year and I am finally going to mount it.
I am just going to mount the transducer on my trolling motor and mount a couple of Scotty mounts so I can use my kayak's rod holders and FF mount.
I am also going to work on a paddle mount for the kayak paddle that I use in my boat.
Ack.com is a great site for discovering new things to use.
I was looking into that 3M VHB tape that someone posted back a few pages ago and on 3M's website they offer free samples so I ordered some to test out.
I will let yahs know how it works out.
Someone asked about the Harbor Freight trailers a couple pages back. I have the 4x8 with the 12" wheels and it works great for the boat and my kayak.
I even picked up a new stove with it the other day.
I just bolted on some plywood and leave it flat. I was thinking about building some side supports for it too because there would still be room even with the width of the boat.
I will post some pics of my work and if I catch another hawg I will post that too for you northern guys.
Here is a healthy one I caught on turkey day.
BTW if you haven't tried Zman Paddlerz, you should.
They are made for salt but bass love em too.
I use new penny or electric chicken for bass.
tnriverluver reply :
On 12/19/2013 at 9:52 PM, basshead1 said:It is bass season down here and I have the fever so I hung up my kayak and I have been putting the Bass Raider to use.
I have already caught a couple 5 lbers and lost a 10lber(could've ate the 5lbers) at boat side.
I need a landing net to save my back and prevent the loss of another hawg.
Any recommendations?
I went through this whole thread again, took a week, and I think I know which mods I will make for this season.
I bought a fish finder earlier this year and I am finally going to mount it.
I am just going to mount the transducer on my trolling motor and mount a couple of Scotty mounts so I can use my kayak's rod holders and FF mount.
I am also going to work on a paddle mount for the kayak paddle that I use in my boat.
Ack.com is a great site for discovering new things to use.
I was looking into that 3M VHB tape that someone posted back a few pages ago and on 3M's website they offer free samples so I ordered some to test out.
I will let yahs know how it works out.
Someone asked about the Harbor Freight trailers a couple pages back. I have the 4x8 with the 12" wheels and it works great for the boat and my kayak.
I even picked up a new stove with it the other day.
I just bolted on some plywood and leave it flat. I was thinking about building some side supports for it too because there would still be room even with the width of the boat.
I will post some pics of my work and if I catch another hawg I will post that too for you northern guys.
Here is a healthy one I caught on turkey day.
BTW if you haven't tried Zman Paddlerz, you should.
They are made for salt but bass love em too.
I use new penny or electric chicken for bass.
When I got back into fishing 3 years ago after a 10 year hiatus, I purchased 2 nice Frabil nets with the collapsible handles thinking if the Pro's use them they must be good. BIG MIstake!!! After catching a catfish on a crank bait and netting it, the tangled mess and treble hooks stuck all into that net, I ended up having to destroy the hooks to get the bait back out of the net. It is a mesh that looks similar to the mesh on your life jacket in your picture, I ended ordering some more new nets from WallyWorld with the old green mono filament net with collapsible handles. No tangled messes since.
basshead1 reply :
I am looking at the Ego nets right now.
They make the wallet ache but they are supposed to be good.
basshead1 reply :
I am guessing most of you are up north because of the inactivity on this thread. I have been getting plenty of slime on my Bass Raider.
Fish Porn
I have always fished for bass but snook will eat a bass and they are good eatin. And they fight like a bullet with huge runs and lots of jumps.
py8pointer reply :
good going basshead1, gotta like the slim in the bass raiders. caught a dandy christmas eve. 9#14oz.
basshead1 reply :
Nice. It looks like it can swallow your head. It's hUUUUUUUUUgeaaah.
Where did you catch it?
py8pointer reply :
canal off Santa Barbara and Trafalgar, NW Cape
py8pointer reply :
Here are a few of the mods i made on my rig
Bomber7 reply :
nice fishies both basshead1 and py8pointer - my hunting season is coming to a close soon and I have been dreaming of landing a few big fish this up coming fishing season - just right now everything is frozen. I'll have my little pond boat out in full force once all the ponds thaw out.
py8pointer reply :
basshead1 reply :
On 1/1/2014 at 9:13 AM, py8pointer said:Here are a few of the mods i made on my rig
Can you show me more detailed pics of your rudder? I need to build one soon and I need more ideas.
Bomber7 reply :
On 1/1/2014 at 3:24 PM, basshead1 said:Can you show me more detailed pics of your rudder? I need to build one soon and I need more ideas.
Here is a photo of the rudder I made - basically is was metal I got from a road sign, a friend of mine cut it down to size and I used a steel pipe I got at Lowes. I purchased an MK TM bracket off e-bay for $30 and it works great cause if I need to adjust for different depths and shallow water I can - plus I can also tilt it up out of the water if needed.
basshead1 reply :
On 1/1/2014 at 11:05 PM, Bomber7 said:Here is a photo of the rudder I made - basically is was metal I got from a road sign, a friend of mine cut it down to size and I used a steel pipe I got at Lowes. I purchased an MK TM bracket off e-bay for $30 and it works great cause if I need to adjust for different depths and shallow water I can - plus I can also tilt it up out of the water if needed.
Sweet rudder. I like the idea of the trolling motor mount but I need something that will kick up in skinny water or if I hit a stump. I was thinking about using 2 pieces of wood held together with a couple hinges for the mount and pvc for the shaft of the rudder and whatever I find in my garage for the rudder itself and then hold it on with some c-clamps.
BigAL reply :
Ive always loved these boats just afraid Im too big for them
basshead1 reply :
On 1/2/2014 at 6:39 AM, BigAL said:Ive always loved these boats just afraid Im too big for them
I am 200 lbs and have no trouble at all. I also see a couple local guys, one guy is at least 300lbs and the other guy about 200, cruisin around the local fishing hole. It has a 600lb weight limit and will definitely hold more on calm water. Much more stable than a john boat.
BigAL reply :
On 1/2/2014 at 7:03 AM, basshead1 said:I am 200 lbs and have no trouble at all. I also see a couple local guys, one guy is at least 300lbs and the other guy about 200, cruisin around the local fishing hole. It has a 600lb weight limit and will definitely hold more on calm water. Much more stable than a john boat.
I am 230 so I guess it can handle me lol thanks for info
BigAL reply :
What really interest me in this type of boat is you can get in water that big boats cant.And alot less things that can break.
basshead1 reply :
On 1/2/2014 at 7:54 AM, BigAL said:I am 230 so I guess it can handle me lol thanks for info
You will be able to bring a friend too. You can also stand and fish easily.
On 1/2/2014 at 7:59 AM, BigAL said:What really interest me in this type of boat is you can get in water that big boats cant.And alot less things that can break.
I don't know what part of Florida you are in but down here in the Fort Myers area there are a few electric only spots that are great for fishing and these boats are perfect for them. I also have an outboard and cruise the Caloosahatchee River at about 10 miles an hour no problem. I will be testing it out on the flats of Matlacha sooner or later and I am sure it will do great there too.
No regrets here.
BigAL reply :
On 1/2/2014 at 8:12 AM, basshead1 said:You will be able to bring a friend too. You can also stand and fish easily.
I don't know what part of Florida you are in but down here in the Fort Myers area there are a few electric only spots that are great for fishing and these boats are perfect for them. I also have an outboard and cruise the Caloosahatchee River at about 10 miles an hour no problem. I will be testing it out on the flats of Matlacha sooner or later and I am sure it will do great there too.
No regrets here.
Very Cool!!!I am in Ft Lauderdale
magic4jc reply :
BigAL,
I am 280 lbs, and my brother in law is about 220 lbs. We both fish comfortably on the 10 ft bass raider. We even wanted to put it to the test one day, so we both stood on the same side rail, and bounced. Never turned it over, and never took on water. These little beasts are the miracle boat for a poor man!
Bomber7 reply :
On 1/2/2014 at 2:30 AM, basshead1 said:Sweet rudder. I like the idea of the trolling motor mount but I need something that will kick up in skinny water or if I hit a stump. I was thinking about using 2 pieces of wood held together with a couple hinges for the mount and pvc for the shaft of the rudder and whatever I find in my garage for the rudder itself and then hold it on with some c-clamps.
yeah that is the only draw back not having it to openly move up if it hits the bottom in shallow water or a stump - I usually just watch my depth finder pretty close if I'm getting in around shallow water, stumps well that is another problem. Most of the time when I'm in and around the trees (which we have lots of lakes that do) I am putting around in low speed, so if it hits one not the big of a deal as I just come to a stop. I might try taking the lock pins out and see if that works ... plus I have alots of other mods I'm thinking about once it warms up here some ..... yuck gonna hit -10 wind chill in the next few days ..... come on spring and summer get here already LOL 
We are getting a new no wake lake built close by and from looking at google earth there are a lot of trees that will soon be under water and honey holes for many of the fish they will stock it with .... can't wait. So it will make it 4 of these lakes within minutes of each other, I like to bounce from lake to lake if fishing is going slow and these little boats are great for doing just that.
tfultz reply :
I like to carry a small first aid kit an a few tools with me on the boat. In my research i found these things called gear pods. Their perfect! Small, waterproof expandable if need be. Can get them already with stuff in them or empty. I got the empty one so i could put what i wanted in them. Also can get a mount. With a little engeneering the worked out great!
basshead1 reply :
I also keep a small first aid kit along with a multi tool, full size flat and philips head along with some big pliers with sharp cutters that can cut a hook. My buddy gives me crap whenever he sees me breaking out the jumbo pliers to remove a hook from a sail cat but when he is hooked through the thumb and his kayak handle he will be glad I brought them. Yup that happened before. lol
tfultz reply :
Ya! I found my self alone once with a 1/2 oz. rattle trap stuck in my wrist and had nothing! That will not happen again!!
sctrailhiker reply :
Guys you have really struck my interest so I went and bought me a 10e. I have made me a rudder and while its still cold I'm going to lay and carped the floor and get my fish finder and lights installed. Here are my pics and hopefully my rudder will work.
sctrailhiker reply :
Here is my boat
sctrailhiker reply :
Here is my boat
WRIFRAF reply :
Has anyone ever taken apart the two halves of the Pelican 10E. I want to run wires for a lights, trolling motor and fish finder. I've taken the plastic black molding off and didn't want to yet take the large staples out until I see if anyone else have done this and then put it back together.
zachb34 reply :
I did this with a watertender you'll need a staple gun sealant a rub rail and rivets to get it back togetherOn 1/5/2014 at 10:46 AM, WRIFRAF said:Has anyone ever taken apart the two halves of the Pelican 10E. I want to run wires for a lights, trolling motor and fish finder. I've taken the plastic black molding off and didn't want to yet take the large staples out until I see if anyone else have done this and then put it back together.
WRIFRAF reply :
On 1/2/2014 at 6:39 AM, BigAL said:Ive always loved these boats just afraid Im too big for them
I weight 292 and my dad weighs 265 and we do just fine in my pelican 10"2
DFM914 reply :
I just found this forum, spent hours last night reading and looking at pictures. For Christmas I got a new Sundolphin Sportsman 8' boat from my wife and I am excited about getting it prepped for this spring. I have owned this type of boat in the past and have enjoyed them as I love to fish. My interest was really sparked by the posts that recommend adding a carpeted plywood floor as the floor feels a little "squishy". I am not sure if 1/4" is enough or not. I plan to haul this in my full size pickup and store inside of the garage when not in use. I also got a new MinnKota C30 Endura motor with it. Ithink I will hang onto my wife...
Bomber7 reply :
On 1/7/2014 at 7:58 PM, DFM914 said:I just found this forum, spent hours last night reading and looking at pictures. For Christmas I got a new Sundolphin Sportsman 8' boat from my wife and I am excited about getting it prepped for this spring. I have owned this type of boat in the past and have enjoyed them as I love to fish. My interest was really sparked by the posts that recommend adding a carpeted plywood floor as the floor feels a little "squishy". I am not sure if 1/4" is enough or not. I plan to haul this in my full size pickup and store inside of the garage when not in use. I also got a new MinnKota C30 Endura motor with it. Ithink I will hang onto my wife...
the same boat I got - I posted many pictures in this thread of all the mods I made to it. If you need any help or suggestions just ask.
DFM914 reply :
Did you put the plywood floor in yours? What other kind of mods have you done? Now that I had the chance, I went back and looked at your earlier posts about the floor. Great job! It looks like it was something the factory did. I assume it helps when standing or getting in and out of the boat. I seen you mounted rod holders on one side, very handy!
Bomber7 reply :
yeah I took my floor measurements to Lowes and they cut it for me - then I stapled the marine carpet to it. I mounted two handles so I could lift it out easy. Also put in a big foot switch for my MK TM. the rod holders work out great - only problem is I have so many rods set up for different fish - trying to figure out a better way to bring them all as some times I don't know what I'm gonna fish for.
blongfishing reply :
I own a Pelican bass raider 10e and it works great. I have made a few modifications on it such as fish finder, nicer seats, more rod holders, and a few more things. Bought it for $500 on CL and spent about $350. The local places that sell them sell them for $800 so I did good. If anyone's thinking about getting one it's a great deal especially if you can find it on eBay or Craigslist.
tfultz reply :
Finally finished the rudder.
tfultz reply :
Pic #2
Poney reply :
thats an awesome rudder! Did you buy it, or did you make it yourself?
Very nice install too.
tfultz reply :
Was going to make my own. It was just as cheap to buy one so i did. Its a Hobie twist and stow large sailing rudder. I also used a Harken double bullet block and two Harken micro cam cleats.
Not_Here reply :
my suggestion after using carpet for my toon deck before, use Marine Vinyl instead like in the link below and glue it down vs staples (staples on the underside after wrapping and gluing the vinyl would be fine)...that vinyl grips great, super easy to clean and hooks don't get caught in it...the biggest thing i love about the vinyl is that after you get mud, veg, slop slime crap all over it from the days fishin, you can just easily spray it off with the hose and shes clean...
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Boating/Carpet-Floor-Coverings/Vinyl%7C/pc/104794380/c/104711580/sc/104672880/Dorsett-Marine-Vinyl-Floor/1316443.uts?destination=%2Fcategory%2FVinyl%2F104672880.uts&WTz_l=DirectLoad%3Bcat104672880
tbone1993 reply :
On 12/20/2013 at 5:51 AM, basshead1 said:I am looking at the Ego nets right now.
They make the wallet ache but they are supposed to be good.
Awesome nets
AdamCurt reply :
So excited about getting the raider 10E in the water tomorrow. I got the boat 2 weeks ago and I have been working on battery cycle life and charge rate. over all great experience in this boat also I have the minikota 45lb it pulls my brother and I (we both are 6ft 3in-230lb) very well no problems spending 5/6hrs on the lake. I welded up a rudder but I think can make it out of lighter mats.
Next mod is going to be the floor upgrade:
Good stuff guy's keep it going don't let it die
basshead1 reply :
I finally built my rudder. Used some scrap wood I had in the garage and an old door hinge for it to kick up in case of stumps, rocks, ect... The first coat is drying now and I will post some pics tonight or tomorrow.
basshead1 reply :
I finished the rudder. The rudder is made from some scrap wood I scrounged and an old door hinge and I picked up some paint at WallyWorld($4 krylon camo paint in forest green), a nice match.
The hinge is so it kicks up if it hits a stump, rock, ect....
dsidle61 reply :
On 1/2/2014 at 7:59 AM, BigAL said:What really interest me in this type of boat is you can get in water that big boats cant.And alot less things that can break.
Just something to keep in mind especially with you being in florida like me. The plastic on these things can actually melt in the florida heat especially if you plan on storing it outdoors. Even if it doesn't melt the constant heating and cooling of the things will expand and shrink the plastic and make it weak. That's my only negative here. If youre careful about where you store it (a garage does fine in the summer) you shouldn't have problems. I went to bass pro and was ready to purchase a pond prowler and I was talked into a 10ft jon boat that ive been happy with and can load in my truck. ended up being a little cheaper. Im not trying to bash this boat like I said I was ready to purchase the pond prowler but just something to think of.
BadBassWV reply :
I had one of the Pond Prowlers when I lived in Florida, Me and my brother in law used that boat for around 8 years. I never put it in a Garage I always just leaned it on the side of the house and never had any problems with it melting nor did the boat itself get weak. These boats are made of the same materials that black plastic plumbing pipe are made of. I rammed the one I have now into a rock bank and put a small hole in it. Went to Lowes and bought a piece of black pipe drilled holes in the pipe to make shavings. I took the shavings laid them over the hole, took a torch and heated a large screw driver and touched the shavings to melt them. Hole is fixed and ive never had another problem with it. These boats are tough. When I moved away from florida a buddy of mine ask if he could have my boat, I gave it to him so i guess he is still using it today.
basshead1 reply :
It gets hot down here but not hot enough to melt polyethylene. Ram x is not supposed to even fade but it may dry out and crack eventually. I know it gets a little softer on those hot summer days.
Polyethylene is a thermoplastic polymer consisting of long hydrocarbon chains. Depending on the crystallinity and molecular weight, a melting pointand glass transition may or may not be observable. The temperature at which these occur varies strongly with the type of polyethylene. For common commercial grades of medium- and high-density polyethylene the melting point is typically in the range 120 to 180 °C (248 to 356 °F). The melting point for average, commercial, low-density polyethylene is typically 105 to 115 °C (221 to 239 °F).
Bozz reply :
<Ram x is not supposed to even fade>
Yeah, it will fade but they are tough. No cracks or leaks on mine after I lost focus on priorities & neglected her while chasing the almighty dollar. Thankfully, I snapped back to normalcy & re-introduced her to the water with some additions from this very thread. I forgot it leaning on the side of a shed for a couple years as it endured several Kentucky summers & winters. Shame on me.
liveoutloud reply :
Well, after months of contemplating the options for an outboard, many hours spent reading reviews and watching youtube reviews, I finally made my decision.
I went back and forth between a used merc or evinrude, a new tohatsu (japanese), or a super cheap new hangkai (chinese). each option had good and bad points, and the decision was very difficult.
Today, I broke down and decided to take a chance on the hangkai. I ordered it on ebay for $324 with free shipping.
I know that many of you think that is a poor choice, but it was the best option FOR ME.
When it arrives, I will put it to the test, and offer my review if anyone is interested.
Mike
basshead1 reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 1:00 AM, liveoutloud said:Well, after months of contemplating the options for an outboard, many hours spent reading reviews and watching youtube reviews, I finally made my decision.
I went back and forth between a used merc or evinrude, a new tohatsu (japanese), or a super cheap new hangkai (chinese). each option had good and bad points, and the decision was very difficult.
Today, I broke down and decided to take a chance on the hangkai. I ordered it on ebay for $324 with free shipping.
I know that many of you think that is a poor choice, but it was the best option FOR ME.
When it arrives, I will put it to the test, and offer my review if anyone is interested.
Mike
I have the Hangkai 3.5 and have no regrets.
You got a better deal than me, I paid $360 and I had to wait for it to come from China(4 weeks).
I run mine in salt and freshwater and it still looks like new.
When I am running down the river I can get it to like 12-13 mph. heh
But normal flat water is like 7-8mph in the 10E.
It stays cool even down here in Florida during August.
A full tank gets me about 2 hours of run time at full throttle most of the time, which is great for a liter of gas.
It starts on the first pull once warmed up but takes 2-3 pulls to wake it up and get the gas flowing.
Sometimes the throttle grip will stick also. That could be bad if I get thrown out. lol
Enjoy your new motor and do some exploring. I get way way back into the creeks.
liveoutloud reply :
Minnow,
How do you "winterize" this motor? I don't see any drain plug for the lower unit in the pictures on ebay. And I know, from past experience, that you are supposed to drain the lower end for freezing weather. We don't have alot of freezing days here in Texas, but we do have a few. Your experience and insight would be helpful.
Of course, once the motor gets here, and I can put my hands on it, it might be simple to figure out. But the owners manual that I downloaded is a joke... Terrible "broken english", and hard to understand.
Thanks,
Mike
basshead1 reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 2:42 AM, liveoutloud said:Minnow,
How do you "winterize" this motor? I don't see any drain plug for the lower unit in the pictures on ebay. And I know, from past experience, that you are supposed to drain the lower end for freezing weather. We don't have alot of freezing days here in Texas, but we do have a few. Your experience and insight would be helpful.
Of course, once the motor gets here, and I can put my hands on it, it might be simple to figure out. But the owners manual that I downloaded is a joke... Terrible "broken english", and hard to understand.
Thanks,
Mike
First off Minnow is my rank according to the amount of posts I made, not my nickname which is basshead1. If you see under your name it says FRY.
I made that same mistake when I started out here too. lol
I have not needed to do any maintenance on my motor yet, just got it this summer. I stored my motor for 3 months during kayak tournament season but I just made sure I burned off all the fuel. Some fresh gas and it started right up after sitting.
If you google hangkai owners manual there is a guy that started writing one in english but he never totally finished it. I think links to other sites are frowned upon here so i will copy and paste it. It is easy enough to google for yourself though. I highlighted the part you want to know.
Thanks to gwebster from some other unnamed board. lol:
Here is my draft of a practical manual for the 2 stroke 2 hp hangkai. Please amend and republish from your own experiences.
Hangkai 2 stroke outboard manual
This manual is supplied with no warranty as to accuracy and is simply my best guess as to what to do based on past experience of other outboards and making what I can of the awful manual which came with the Hangkai. If you damage your motor using this manual, I accept no repsponsibilty.
there are some questions below, please amend the manual in that or any other respect and reissue so it can be as complete as possible. Does anyone have a source of parts?
1. Summary
Advantages
Light at 9 kilos empty
Prop doesn't turn when at low revs- it engages as you rev up
Very cheap
Disadvantages
Low power
Poor quality steel used. You may need to paint your starter cover on the top, remove and grease all bolts when new etc to avoid corrosion.
High use of oil- 25:1 is costly and make embarrassing smoke.
2. Getting started
Fill from little fuel can which they supply. If you tip all the fuel to the larger side, you can use the small side to add the measured amount of oil per the gauge, then tip to mix the two.
There is no fuel tap. Pump fuel through using plastic bubble on the starboard side. When it is hard, pump 12 times more to push it through.
Move the choke lever to 'OFF'. In this position the choke is closed for starting.
Pull to start. It always takes me about 10 pulls or more, any suggestions?
Run the engine with choke lever 'ON' when started.
Let it cool by running in idle before stopping it with the red button on the top.
If stored outside always cover, and avoid using in salt spray or rain.
3. Service
Once at least remove all bolts accessible, grease and replace. Or they may seize. Paint the steel cover on the starter, it will corrode otherwise.
Annually before winter
Grease clamps , wind in and out.
Remove prop and grease shaft.
Remove anode, clean or replace, grease bolt. ( But where do we buy another anode?)
Remove two bolts near prop to access gear box oil and top up or replace with Hypoid 90 ( this is a guess). Ensure no air bubbles by pumping in the lower end until it comes out the top end, with motor lying at a slight incline.
Run it in a bucket of fresh water until all fuel is used up. You may need to have removed some fuel before you start, to keep the time down.
Remove dome on starboard side. Fine sponge filter, take out, wash and dry.
The Chinese manual refers to a 'colander' but i can't find that.
Remove two alan key bolts on starboard side and 3 bolts and nuts. Pull away starboard side cover. The fuel tank is attached, which is why it is better to run it out before this stage.
A drop of oil on throttle cable.
Remove spark plug. I had to use a 19 mill flat spanner, and to get that in I had to loosen the one alan key bolt which holds the plastic inner cover.
Put engine oil in the cylinder, hold a rag over it while pulling starter cord to spread oil.
Check gap in spark plug, should be .7. This seems very big, so I am using 25 thousandths which is about .5.Clean it and re-insert.
Check gap in the 'magno electricity machine' if you can find it (.05) or 25 thousandths but please tell me where it is!
A drop of oil on the moving parts such as pivot etc.
Grease nipple 3 strokes. and revolve engine to spread grease.
Keep it inside in the winter.
Do not keep any mixed fuel. In fact I mix as I top up.
In Spring
Take out spark plug, pull starter with cloth in the hole or paper to catch oil, clean and refit, or replace it.
Add fresh fuel.
liveoutloud reply :
LOL. Sorry about that, basshead1.
Thanks for the info.
Montanaro reply :
Anyone ever use a push pole? My dad is considering a raider and is thinking of using a push pole to silently make our way through water shield fields instead of paddling.
basshead1 reply :
I have a 7 foot stick pin that I pole with.
liveoutloud reply :
I've used an old shovel handle to push pole in shallow creeks.
Not_Here reply :
fleet farm has these telescopic ones, which you have to buy the duck foot separately...when its all the way collapsed its roughly a few inches over 4ft without the foot on, the foot adds a foot or so...so its easily stowed & its a decent push pole that i've used...
http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/dotline-15-ft-push-n-glide-pole/0000000025053
http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/dotline-duck-web-foot-for-push-pole/0000000025044
ARH4AU reply :
On 1/20/2014 at 10:24 AM, dsidle61 said:Just something to keep in mind especially with you being in florida like me. The plastic on these things can actually melt in the florida heat especially if you plan on storing it outdoors. Even if it doesn't melt the constant heating and cooling of the things will expand and shrink the plastic and make it weak. That's my only negative here. If youre careful about where you store it (a garage does fine in the summer) you shouldn't have problems. I went to bass pro and was ready to purchase a pond prowler and I was talked into a 10ft jon boat that ive been happy with and can load in my truck. ended up being a little cheaper. Im not trying to bash this boat like I said I was ready to purchase the pond prowler but just something to think of.
Yeah, the melting point on these boats is 300* F+. It never got that hot when I lived @ Homestead.
liveoutloud reply :
Well, my HANGKAI outboard motor arrived Thursday evening, and here is the initial review I promised. I will be updating with more detailed reviews as I put this little motor to more and more strenuous tests. Please understand that this cannot even come close to comparing with a Johnson, evinrude, or merc, but it was only $324 with free shipping, and it is brand new.
OUT OF THE BOX:
When I picked up the box, I was very surprised by how light it was (aprox 25 lbs including packaging). Upon opening the box, I found a 1 liter fuel can with the little side compartment for mixing the fuel and oil. I also found a funnel, an extra spindle, an extra pull rope assembly, a useless little tool kit (that you wouldn’t pay a dollar for at the dollar store), a cotter pin, 2 spare shear keys, and the fully assembled motor. The motor is obviously made from cheap materials, but seems okay for the price. I noticed that the owners manual that came with it is written in terrible broken English, and very hard to understand… but how hard can it be? This ain’t my first rodeo with an outboard motor.
I also noticed that the recommended fuel/oil mix is 25:1… ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?... That seems very rich, but okay.
TRASH CAN TEST:
The day the motor arrived, it was way to windy to get on the lake. But I wanted to play with my new toy, so… I filled a Rubbermaid trash can with tap water, assembled a quick “support system” with old 2x4s, and put the motor thru a “trash can test”. It took me about 10 pulls to get it to start the first time. I think it would have been less if I had noticed that the choke on/off switch was labeled backwards earlier. That is correct, the choke on/off switch is labeled BACKWARDS… lol.
Once the motor started, it seemed to take it 3-4 minutes to warm up. After warming up, it idled nice, and throttled up nicely, other than being excessively loud. I held full throttle for about 30 seconds at a time, several times, and let it idle for about 30 minutes. I heard a hiccup or two, but for the most part… no problems. When I turned the motor off, I did notice a significant amount of oil floating on the surface of the water. I figure this is probably due to the 25:1 fuel/oil mix, and partially due to the small water source (35 gallon trash can) that it had been running in for 30-40 minutes.
ON THE LAKE:
I took the motor to the lake today for the real test. I filled up the tiny (1 liter) fuel tank, and put it on my Pelican Bass Raider 10E. I should note here that my pelican is a little heavier than she should be because some water soaked into the foam inside the pontoons last year… And I am a BIG man (aprox 280 lbs). I pushed the boat into the water, and the little Hangkai started on the 5th pull. I let it idle and warm up for about 4-5 minutes, then took off.
This little motor pushes my boat almost twice as fast as my 40# Minn Kota trolling motor on speed 5. I had actually hoped for a little more speed, but this is fine. I can definitely feel a HUGE difference in TORQUE. This baby has a crap-load more torque than the trolling motor. I ran it for about an hour, on full throttle the entire time (except during turns), and it ran out of fuel. One hour of full throttle on one liter of gas… that seems pretty good to me. Again, I heard several hiccups during this hour, but the motor never stalled. I also never noticed an “oil trail” behind me.
I filled the tank back up with another liter of the 25:1 mix, and it started on first pull. I ran the motor for a while, and killed it several times… Always started on first pull when warm.
OVER ALL:
This is definitely NO top of the line motor, but it seems great for the price, if it holds up for a few years. I read a review somewhere that said the guy switched to about 30:1 or 35:1 fuel mix, and he got more time out of a tank of gas, and eliminated the “hiccups”. I might try that, not sure. But overall, I am satisfied , so far, with my purchase. Stay tuned for future reviews as I break this little devil in.
Mike
Mainebass1984 reply :
I got a used pelican 10E at the end of last year. I noticed it had a few deep scrapes and scratches. They do not leak water but a couple are pretty d**n deep. Any suggestions on how to repair the scrapes ?
basshead1 reply :
On 2/2/2014 at 2:20 AM, Mainebass1984 said:I got a used pelican 10E at the end of last year. I noticed it had a few deep scrapes and scratches. They do not leak water but a couple are pretty d**n deep. Any suggestions on how to repair the scrapes ?
http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=plastic+weld
I have heard of people also melting down old milk jugs to fill in the cracks.
On 2/2/2014 at 1:10 AM, liveoutloud said:Well, my HANGKAI outboard motor arrived Thursday evening, and here is the initial review I promised. I will be updating with more detailed reviews as I put this little motor to more and more strenuous tests. Please understand that this cannot even come close to comparing with a Johnson, evinrude, or merc, but it was only $324 with free shipping, and it is brand new.
OUT OF THE BOX:
When I picked up the box, I was very surprised by how light it was (aprox 25 lbs including packaging). Upon opening the box, I found a 1 liter fuel can with the little side compartment for mixing the fuel and oil. I also found a funnel, an extra spindle, an extra pull rope assembly, a useless little tool kit (that you wouldn’t pay a dollar for at the dollar store), a cotter pin, 2 spare shear keys, and the fully assembled motor. The motor is obviously made from cheap materials, but seems okay for the price. I noticed that the owners manual that came with it is written in terrible broken English, and very hard to understand… but how hard can it be? This ain’t my first rodeo with an outboard motor.
I also noticed that the recommended fuel/oil mix is 25:1… ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?... That seems very rich, but okay.
TRASH CAN TEST:
The day the motor arrived, it was way to windy to get on the lake. But I wanted to play with my new toy, so… I filled a Rubbermaid trash can with tap water, assembled a quick “support system” with old 2x4s, and put the motor thru a “trash can test”. It took me about 10 pulls to get it to start the first time. I think it would have been less if I had noticed that the choke on/off switch was labeled backwards earlier. That is correct, the choke on/off switch is labeled BACKWARDS… lol.
Once the motor started, it seemed to take it 3-4 minutes to warm up. After warming up, it idled nice, and throttled up nicely, other than being excessively loud. I held full throttle for about 30 seconds at a time, several times, and let it idle for about 30 minutes. I heard a hiccup or two, but for the most part… no problems. When I turned the motor off, I did notice a significant amount of oil floating on the surface of the water. I figure this is probably due to the 25:1 fuel/oil mix, and partially due to the small water source (35 gallon trash can) that it had been running in for 30-40 minutes.
ON THE LAKE:
I took the motor to the lake today for the real test. I filled up the tiny (1 liter) fuel tank, and put it on my Pelican Bass Raider 10E. I should note here that my pelican is a little heavier than she should be because some water soaked into the foam inside the pontoons last year… And I am a BIG man (aprox 280 lbs). I pushed the boat into the water, and the little Hangkai started on the 5th pull. I let it idle and warm up for about 4-5 minutes, then took off.
This little motor pushes my boat almost twice as fast as my 40# Minn Kota trolling motor on speed 5. I had actually hoped for a little more speed, but this is fine. I can definitely feel a HUGE difference in TORQUE. This baby has a crap-load more torque than the trolling motor. I ran it for about an hour, on full throttle the entire time (except during turns), and it ran out of fuel. One hour of full throttle on one liter of gas… that seems pretty good to me. Again, I heard several hiccups during this hour, but the motor never stalled. I also never noticed an “oil trail” behind me.
I filled the tank back up with another liter of the 25:1 mix, and it started on first pull. I ran the motor for a while, and killed it several times… Always started on first pull when warm.
OVER ALL:
This is definitely NO top of the line motor, but it seems great for the price, if it holds up for a few years. I read a review somewhere that said the guy switched to about 30:1 or 35:1 fuel mix, and he got more time out of a tank of gas, and eliminated the “hiccups”. I might try that, not sure. But overall, I am satisfied , so far, with my purchase. Stay tuned for future reviews as I break this little devil in.
Mike
Yeah the top end is low but it gets there fast. A brand new motor for less money than a used motor, too cheap to pass up.
This is my first outboard so it is great for me.
I am already eyeing a bigger boat, this was just my warm-up boat but I will keep it for easy access to the water on a dime and for electric only lakes.
On 2/2/2014 at 2:20 AM, Mainebass1984 said:
Mainebass1984 reply :
sweet
thanks basshead1
BadBassWV reply :
On 2/2/2014 at 2:20 AM, Mainebass1984 said:I got a used pelican 10E at the end of last year. I noticed it had a few deep scrapes and scratches. They do not leak water but a couple are pretty d**n deep. Any suggestions on how to repair the scrapes ?
I rammed the one I have now into a rock bank and put a small hole in it. Went to Lowes and bought a piece of black pipe drilled holes in the pipe to make shavings. I took the shavings laid them over the hole, took a torch and heated a large screw driver and touched the shavings to melt them. Hole is fixed and ive never had another problem with it.
tfultz reply :
Trolling motor mount for my stake out/ push pole
CBarnes reply :
Is it safe to put a drain hole in the Pelican 10e? I was going to use a tru hull fitting and cut off the excess underneath has any one done this? I don't understand why pelican stopped putting in a drain.
I have learned a lot and got some great ideas here thanks.
py8pointer reply :
On 2/18/2014 at 11:23 AM, CBarnes said:Is it safe to put a drain hole in the Pelican 10e? I was going to use a tru hull fitting and cut off the excess underneath has any one done this? I don't understand why pelican stopped putting in a drain.
I have learned a lot and got some great ideas here thanks.
It sure is. just make sure to use silicone on both sides. haven't had a problem with mine, and did it the same way.
basshead1 reply :
On 2/18/2014 at 11:23 AM, CBarnes said:Is it safe to put a drain hole in the Pelican 10e? I was going to use a tru hull fitting and cut off the excess underneath has any one done this? I don't understand why pelican stopped putting in a drain.
I have learned a lot and got some great ideas here thanks.
On 2/19/2014 at 7:43 AM, py8pointer said:It sure is. just make sure to use silicone on both sides. haven't had a problem with mine, and did it the same way.
Are you guys talking about the drains for inside the hull or did yahs build one to drain through from the top like a scupper hole on kayaks?
If so I am on board and know my next project. heh Got pics?
CBarnes reply :
On 2/19/2014 at 8:25 AM, basshead1 said:Are you guys talking about the drains for inside the hull or did yahs build one to drain through from the top like a scupper hole on kayaks?
If so I am on board and know my next project. heh Got pics?
To drain the main hull of any water that splashes in or from rain. I am setting up my boat and will post a picture next week.
sctrailhiker reply :
Well spring is knocking on my door all I can say is I love my boat. About 90% done with my upgrades either way I'm setting a hook or two next weekend.
sctrailhiker reply :
Here are some pics. I fabricated a mount and also made a set of risers for my seats. I'm going to carpet my floors and I'm thinking about installing a live well.
Bomber7 reply :
I'm thinking of doing that to my seats too
sctrailhiker reply :
I love it. I'm a tall guy and I don't like feeling cooped up. That's why I sold my Jon boat. I made mine out of 4" black iron pipe and 1/4" steel plates. I made mine so it would add weight so my seats won't fly out on transport. They sell them at Walmart for 15$ each.
IndyWingmaster reply :
Hi guys! I just joined the forum today, but I have been reading this thread for a couple months now. I can proudly say that I picked up a Pelican Bass Raider 10E. It was on sale on Craigslist and a friend of mine went and picked it up for me. Anyways I bought it without having seen it. My friend looked it over before paying and made sure all was good and I couldn't be happier. I wasn't sure if it was 8 or 10 foot because of the photo, but I picked it up yesterday and saw that it was a 10E which is exactly what I was looking for. Long story short - I am ready to start working on this boat and get it ready for this season and with all the great ideas on this thread I don't think I could go wrong. I will post some pictures when I get a chance and likely ask you guys some questions along the way. I appreciate all your help. Thanks.
basshead1 reply :
On 3/3/2014 at 9:49 PM, IndyWingmaster said:Hi guys! I just joined the forum today, but I have been reading this thread for a couple months now. I can proudly say that I picked up a Pelican Bass Raider 10E. It was on sale on Craigslist and a friend of mine went and picked it up for me. Anyways I bought it without having seen it. My friend looked it over before paying and made sure all was good and I couldn't be happier. I wasn't sure if it was 8 or 10 foot because of the photo, but I picked it up yesterday and saw that it was a 10E which is exactly what I was looking for. Long story short - I am ready to start working on this boat and get it ready for this season and with all the great ideas on this thread I don't think I could go wrong. I will post some pictures when I get a chance and likely ask you guys some questions along the way. I appreciate all your help. Thanks.
Welcome to the club and the boards. You will not regret buying one. My kayak has been collecting dust since I got my Bass Raider.
basshead1 reply :
On 2/19/2014 at 9:51 AM, CBarnes said:To drain the main hull of any water that splashes in or from rain. I am setting up my boat and will post a picture next week.
Where are the pics?
IndyWingmaster reply :
Thanks basshead1. Yeah I still want a kayak in the future, but maybe I will decide it can wait.
Bomber7 reply :
On 3/3/2014 at 9:49 PM, IndyWingmaster said:Hi guys! I just joined the forum today, but I have been reading this thread for a couple months now. I can proudly say that I picked up a Pelican Bass Raider 10E. It was on sale on Craigslist and a friend of mine went and picked it up for me. Anyways I bought it without having seen it. My friend looked it over before paying and made sure all was good and I couldn't be happier. I wasn't sure if it was 8 or 10 foot because of the photo, but I picked it up yesterday and saw that it was a 10E which is exactly what I was looking for. Long story short - I am ready to start working on this boat and get it ready for this season and with all the great ideas on this thread I don't think I could go wrong. I will post some pictures when I get a chance and likely ask you guys some questions along the way. I appreciate all your help. Thanks.
Welcome aboard and I know you will enjoy your boat - one of the best inventions next to slice bread lol - can't wait to see your pictures - I love seeing different things people here have done to their boats. Gives me many ideas and helpful hints for my boat. Now if spring would finally show up here in Nebraska I can get my boat back on the water.
IndyWingmaster reply :
I have plenty of ideas, now I just need the money, lol.
CBarnes reply :
Pictures soon still working on it bad weather ad lots of other stuff have slowed me down but you can checkout my Kayak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVKD-SPinHk
tseanw reply :
Hello Everyone, my name is Tim. I own a 2003 Pelican Bass Raider 10e and i have had it for about 3 years. I'm also new to the form and it's cool to see all the new ideas people have figured out to do with their boats. Big thanks to tfultz for all his help with my many questions.
tfultz reply :
tseanw thank you! Im very proud of my Bass Raider. Put in a lot of work and hours to get it this way. Bass Resource is an awesom site. Proud to be a part of it! Hope every one gets as much enjoyment out of theirs as i do mine. Probably don't mean much but..thanks to you tube if you google Pelican Bass Raider 10e my boat will show up. If you go to google images my boat and a pic of my 8.5 lb large mouth showes up!
tseanw reply :
I have tried to steer my boat with the trolling motor in the front. I don't have a rudder and it just not going to happen. I prefer it in the back where I seem to have better control of the boat.
tfultz reply :
Adding the rudder made a huge differance!
basshead1 reply :
Yup, a rudder is the way to go when no outboard is on the back.
BigMoneyGrip reply :
I just called Dicks to order a 10e. I was told it was discontinued and replaced with the Electric. Does this make sense? The price was the same as the 10e and it is prewired for the trolling motor.
Thanks.
basshead1 reply :
The 10E is the electric version which means it is wired for the trolling motor.
The 10 DLX has no electric and cheaper seats.
And the Bass Raider 10 has no electric and folding seats.
I am guessing the person at Dicks is talking about the 10 because it used to be listed on their site but no longer is.
I got mine from Dicks during their free shipping boat sale which is due soon.
The shipping took forever and their customer service is horrible to put it nicely.
py8pointer reply :
getting ready to put some slim in the boat. I love this boat
BigMoneyGrip reply :
You have confirmed my thoughts. The 10e is what I'm looking for. Thanks, basshead.
basshead1 reply :
On 3/5/2014 at 9:25 AM, py8pointer said:getting ready to put some slim in the boat. I love this boat
My boat stinks from all the slime. One day I will clean it because it is stinking up the garage. lol
What launch is that?
tfultz reply :
Been looking for a radio to top off my pelican. Think I've found one! Have pics later.
basshead1 reply :
On 3/5/2014 at 10:07 PM, tfultz said:Been looking for a radio to top off my pelican. Think I've found one! Have pics later.
A marine radio or a stereo?
I use my Ipod in an Eco extreme speaker thingamabob. It is pretty clear and I can even hear it over my little outboard. I use it in my kayak too and the thing has been soaked many times and never a problem. I sit it on top of my lunch bag so no vibrations alert the fish. And the batteries last forever.
tfultz reply :
Basshead1 just reasearched the ecos. Those look pretty sweet! Really like the ecorox. Think it will meet my needs perfectly. Thanks for the suggestion!
basshead1 reply :
Mine sounds pretty good with good bass and highs and lows. I use it in my garage, at the beach and even in the shower too and never had a problem in 2 years.
tfultz reply :
Sweet! Excited to get one ordered.
BigMoneyGrip reply :
Is anybody using the Optima yellow top batteries on these. A Minn Kota Endura 45 is what I'll use for a motor.
basshead1 reply :
On 3/8/2014 at 9:59 PM, BigMoneyGrip said:Is anybody using the Optima yellow top batteries on these. A Minn Kota Endura 45 is what I'll use for a motor.
I use the walmart special size 29 everstart and this thing is it. I can not get the thing below 70% unless I camp out for a couple nights.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-Maxx-Group-Size-29-Marine-Battery/20531539
tfultz reply :
Does anyone else have "full replacement value" insurance on their pelican besides me? Also covers my tackle and rod/reels! Or have i went to far?! Lol LOVE my fishin!!!
basshead1 reply :
I was thinking about doing a bass tournament in mine, which requires insurance but I did not insure it yet.
jlearsi67 reply :
Well I've spent the last 2 weeks reading pretty much all of this topic reseaching the bass raider. Just picked mine up this past weekend. Getting tired of hauling around a very heavy tri-hull with an older outboard that needs some kind of tinkering each spring to get it "going". Looking for ways to trick out the raider before I head out for crappies this spring. Looking to add a 45lb thrust trolling motor, good rod holders, a new fish finder, a couple anchors and a make-shift rudder to start. I'll eventually get a 2 - 3.5hp outboard, but that may wait until next summer. I would really like to have a switch panel installed someplace handy for running various electrical add-ons, but that will take some advice, planning and pics if anyone has them. I'm certainly not there yet. I want to make sure I do that right. Once I get ready to add some items I'll be asking for advice - and hopefully be able to give some once I become more familiar with the raider. Now we just sit and wait for about 14 inches of ice to melt off of anything that resembles a lake, pond or resevoir in my area.......
Bozz reply :
Just wondering what's the biggest water Pelican guys might venture on to.
I've been eyeing a 35 mile long man-made lake near my new location...long but never really that wide till you get up towards the dam. I am near the headwaters that don't see as much pleasure boating normally.
I've owned my 10E quite a few years and know it's capabilities in a lot of the smaller lakes and reservoirs but I've never had to deal with larger boat traffic.
basshead1 reply :
I take mine into the salt and along the ICW and I haven't had any problems. Just keep your eyes open for big wakes because they can catch you offguard. lol
I've had big wakes hit me from the side but these boats just float right over like a bobber. I have had a few break on the bow too but nothing comes in and I have never been swamped.
tseanw reply :
I don't live close to salt walter but there are some larger lakes here in NC. And Im not driving my boat 2.5 or 3 hours to get to the ocean. I do a charter once a year with buddies and we have a blast. Not saying i wouldn't do it if i lived closer. However, Im preparing to have a good fishing season first by getting my 10E updated also get my mind right lol for bigger fish...I love bass, but I love fishing period. Finding anchors to fasten my equipment has been a bear. last i hear in order to get 1/8" X 2" stainless steel toggle bolts i need to place an order of 1000 for $600 bucks from an overseas vender...UGH! Any body have any suggestions I'm all ears. Again thanks for everyones help.
jlearsi67 reply :
Those better be some pretty nice toggles for $600! By "anchors" do you just mean installing/fastening things in general like cleats, rod holders, cup holders, etc.... to the boat? If so, I am wondering the same thing. If I'm going to drill a hole, it's going to be well sealed and it has to hold. I'm not sure if toggles are used for everything, or of a decent screw will secure things. I have all kinds of ideas on things to add, but I want to know they'll be secure and not have to worry about them coming loose or creating a leak issue. Are toggles used for everything??
tfultz reply :
My post about the toggle bolts might of been a little miss leading. Sorry. I used 1/8x2" stainless bolts. The toggles are zinc plated. As far as them coming loose i haven't had any problems. I used a little bit of med. strength loc tight also to make sure. I travel quite a bit and wanted some reassurance.
Keep an eye on tseanw! Think his pelican is gonna sweet!
kwaldeier reply :
Hey guys I just got an 8 ft sun dolphin. Think I'm getting a 30 lb Minn kota,everstart max 29,Minn kota 110p charger. Do you have any must haves for a boat this small? Do's and dont's/Tips?
BadBassWV reply :
On 3/13/2014 at 9:28 PM, kwaldeier said:Hey guys I just got an 8 ft sun dolphin. Think I'm getting a 30 lb Minn kota,everstart max 29,Minn kota 110p charger. Do you have any must haves for a boat this small? Do's and dont's/Tips?
Ive got a pond prowler from bass pro shop. The only thing I regret is not getting a bigger trolling motor. I have a Minn Kota 40lb thrust. With no wind according to my fish finder I am running at 3 miles per hour. In the wind around 1 to 2. The lake I fish is Electric only, Just think the next time I have to get a trolling motor I might go with something with foot control and a lot more power.
Bomber7 reply :
On 3/13/2014 at 9:28 PM, kwaldeier said:Hey guys I just got an 8 ft sun dolphin. Think I'm getting a 30 lb Minn kota,everstart max 29,Minn kota 110p charger. Do you have any must haves for a boat this small? Do's and dont's/Tips?
Like BadBassWV stated the only regret I had at first was getting the 30lb MK - I guess fortunately for me I got a little lucky if you want to call it that, cause I had my drive pin break a few months after purchasing it. I took it back to Dick's - they had no problem with me upgrading to a 55 lb I only had to paid the difference. I think had I just wanted my money back they would have told me to send it back to Minn Kota - which would have been a hastle waiting for it to be repaired or a part to be sent.
The 55 lb is a huge difference and I'm glad I have it now.
I got you IM and answered back
You will love your new boat - I never thought I would have this much fun with one of these pond hoppers - 
Docktercolin reply :
It's been awhile since i've been on here and it's good to see this thread is still going. I'm psyched that it's finaly starting to warm up and i'll be able to get my little boat back on the water.
tseanw on page 59 I have some pics of the yak gear fasteners I used on my rig. Installed them at the begining of last year and they have held up fine. If I were going to install rod holders for trolling i'd use toggle bolts but for light duty stuff the tri grip rivots work great.
Basshead, is that little hangkai still running good for you?
Not_Here reply :
On 3/13/2014 at 9:28 PM, kwaldeier said:Hey guys I just got an 8 ft sun dolphin. Think I'm getting a 30 lb Minn kota,everstart max 29,Minn kota 110p charger. Do you have any must haves for a boat this small? Do's and dont's/Tips?
Don't get the 30# and do get the 55#...its been said a thousand times and will be said a thousand more, take the advice and get the 55# TM...if you don't you will regret it in time...you can never have too much power in a trolling motor, especially when bucking wind...
tseanw reply :
Dockterxolin, thanks I have decided to use the toggle bolts.
basshead1 reply :
On 3/14/2014 at 3:17 AM, Docktercolin said:It's been awhile since i've been on here and it's good to see this thread is still going. I'm psyched that it's finaly starting to warm up and i'll be able to get my little boat back on the water.
tseanw on page 59 I have some pics of the yak gear fasteners I used on my rig. Installed them at the begining of last year and they have held up fine. If I were going to install rod holders for trolling i'd use toggle bolts but for light duty stuff the tri grip rivots work great.
Basshead, is that little hangkai still running good for you?
The Hangkai is still running strong. I had it out on the Caloosahatchee a couple weeks ago.
I have a 30lb motor and it moves my Bass Raider pretty good but I do have a gas motor for the long hauls. I actually wish there was a slower speed on my trolling motor for when I am working shorelines. I may end up getting a bigfoot but too busy spending all my money on flyfishing gear right now, got the fever. dang bait monkey.
basshead1 reply :
lol I just broke down and ordered one off of Ebay. d**n bait monkey.
tseanw reply :
What did u order..milkman
basshead1 reply :
On 3/14/2014 at 8:31 AM, tseanw said:What did u order..milkman
A Bigfoot foot switch for my trolling motor.
jlearsi67 reply :
I am planning to go with a 45lb tiller controlled mounted on the bow. I have a 40lb on my trihull and it gets me around pretty well. My raider is a fraction of that weight/mass so I should be good - in theory. I was convinced a while ago that I had to have the foot controlled Bull Dog unit, but in thinking things through and just sitting in the boat now, I can't see a huge advantage having a foot controlled unit that would make it worth the extra $200. I would rather put that money towards some upgraded electronics or some other bells and whistles. I may try a Bigfoot switch at some point though....
Bomber7 reply :
On 3/14/2014 at 9:33 AM, basshead1 said:A Bigfoot foot switch for my trolling motor.
I have one on mine - awesome little invention
Lightfoot reply :
I tried to paint numbers on my bass raider 10 E but the paint just peels off. Does anybody know of a paint that work on this boat
tseanw reply :
Saturday I caught a 24" 9 lb 7 once large mouth bass...cant figure how to upload pics...SMH
Help. the file is too big.
basshead1 reply :
On 3/16/2014 at 10:26 AM, Lightfoot said:I tried to paint numbers on my bass raider 10 E but the paint just peels off. Does anybody know of a paint that work on this boat
I used stickers.
On 3/16/2014 at 11:26 PM, tseanw said:Saturday I caught a 24" 9 lb 7 once large mouth bass...cant figure how to upload pics...SMH
Help. the file is too big.
I upload them to facebook and just link them with the image insert button. You can also use photobucket or some other site like that. I want to see that bass.
I have been getting some slime on my Bass Raider.
Here is some proof. lol
Snagged this one lol
tseanw reply :
where is the image insert button
basshead1 reply :
Instead of hitting post hit more options and then it is a little square like a little picture. Click it and then a window pops up and you put in the address of the image. To get the address of the image from facebook you right click on the picture and select copy image URL.
basshead1 reply :
On 3/17/2014 at 5:08 AM, tseanw said:where is the image insert button
Holy crap that thing is fat.
You replied and it emailed me a link so I can do it for yah.
tseanw reply :
FATYAKKER reply :
^^Nice 
tseanw reply :
On 3/17/2014 at 5:34 AM, ALMIGHTYBASSFISHER said:^^Nice
Thanks...Caught her yesterday...that's the biggest bass I have ever caught or seen in person. 24 inches 9 lbs and 7 ounces...pure adrenaline lol.
Bomber7 reply :
On 3/17/2014 at 5:30 AM, tseanw said:
Nice!!!
Bomber7 reply :
what did you catch her with?
On 3/17/2014 at 5:41 AM, tseanw said:Thanks...Caught her yesterday...that's the biggest bass I have ever caught or seen in person. 24 inches 9 lbs and 7 ounces...pure adrenaline lol.
tseanw reply :
On 3/17/2014 at 8:48 AM, Bomber7 said:what did you catch her with?
1/4 oz swim jig and a Berkeley 3.8" paddle tail power bait
BadBassWV reply :
Nice Fish!!!
tseanw reply :
On 3/18/2014 at 5:33 AM, BadBassWV said:Nice Fish!!!
thanks...I'm still stoked lol.
py8pointer reply :
here is a nice bass i caught on video yesterday out of the Bass Raider.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201963196305417&l=6552077563070159566
Bomber7 reply :
nice - is that a foot control TM you have on your Raider?? if so you have any pictures on the set up?
py8pointer reply :
On 3/19/2014 at 12:27 AM, Bomber7 said:nice - is that a foot control TM you have on your Raider?? if so you have any pictures on the set up?
It sure is Bomber7. It's the 40lbs thrust "Bulldog". So really not any special set up, just mount it to the front, set about midway in the boat , and off I go.
Bomber7 reply :
I'd like to see a picture if you have any - been thinking of doing that to my Sun Dolphin Sportsman 8' - just not sure how to mount one. Right now I have my MK TM mounted to the bow and have a big foot switch on it. Does pretty good just to steer I have to of couse use my hands.
py8pointer reply :
check out my training wheels i put on the Raider. Gonna make loading and unloading much easier. took them out for a test run today, yes it does make some drag, but for what i do, it wasn't to bad.
basshead1 reply :
On 3/20/2014 at 6:39 AM, py8pointer said:check out my training wheels i put on the Raider. Gonna make loading and unloading much easier. took them out for a test run today, yes it does make some drag, but for what i do, it wasn't to bad.
That would be too much draft for some of the places I fish but if it is good for you then kick ass.
Is it braced underneath to support it so where it is connected up top does not bend with the sway?
I have been thinking about taking a ride to Okeecobee with mine soon. Have you taken yours there?
py8pointer reply :
On 3/20/2014 at 8:51 AM, basshead1 said:That would be too much draft for some of the places I fish but if it is good for you then kick ass.
Is it braced underneath to support it so where it is connected up top does not bend with the sway?
I have been thinking about taking a ride to Okeecobee with mine soon. Have you taken yours there?
It is braced underneath, still wanna give this a few more trial runs to see if i like it.
That's a big body of water over there, I don't have a small motor so i have been a little hesitant on taking it to a big lake.
basshead1 reply :
On 3/20/2014 at 6:35 PM, py8pointer said:It is braced underneath, still wanna give this a few more trial runs to see if i like it.
That's a big body of water over there, I don't have a small motor so i have been a little hesitant on taking it to a big lake.
I was thinking about trying the perimeter canal or one of the bays on a nice day. I figure if kayaks can do it then a Bass Raider can. Even with my 30# trolling motor I can outrun most fishing kayaks so I will be ok even if my motor fails.
I watched your canal video so I may have to hit up some Cape canals this weekend. I promised my buddy Matlacha this weekend but I have not heard from him so he may have to work, if so I am going bass fishing.
py8pointer reply :
gotta love being able to put the bass raider in places other boats can't go
Watch this 5# 12oz bass explode on the Zoom Horny Toad.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202000666002136&l=8679293027933338955
Bomber7 reply :
Nice one py8pointer
tseanw reply :
Nice fish Py8pointer...I see you...
basshead1 reply :
Nice fish. I want to catch her great grandma.
I hooked up with a nice 5lber last week on the fly but she dragged the boat into the weeds and got off.
This week I was using my anchor but I didn't hook into any fatties. Lotsa babies but no grannies.
basshead1 reply :
On 3/24/2014 at 11:44 PM, py8pointer said:gotta love being able to put the bass raider in places other boats can't go
Watch this 5# 12oz bass explode on the Zoom Horny Toad.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202000666002136&l=8679293027933338955
How did them wheels workout for you?
Brock Grigsby67 reply :
I have a Sun Dolphin Sportsman and I was wondering if any of y'all had any trouble with it getting hot and some of it melting in the summer?
Trackercal reply :
Hi, I will be getting a Pelican Bass Raider 10E soon and wanted to know if this boat would fit in back of a Toyota Tacoma. What is the width measurements at the bottom of the boat and the top. Also the height with seats folded down. Thanks ahead for any help on this. By the way this is a great forum with lots of great advice, thanks again.
Bozz reply :
On 3/28/2014 at 11:36 PM, Trackercal said:Hi, I will be getting a Pelican Bass Raider 10E soon and wanted to know if this boat would fit in back of a Toyota Tacoma. What is the width measurements at the bottom of the boat and the top. Also the height with seats folded down. Thanks ahead for any help on this. By the way this is a great forum with lots of great advice, thanks again.
Hey TrackerCal,
This is not mine but a pic I found:
Toyota/BassRaider
My nephew has an olderToyota and his BR 10E was a perfect fit as far as width goes.
Welcome to the RaiderHood
Trackercal reply :
On 3/29/2014 at 11:40 PM, Bozz said:Hey TrackerCal,
This is not mine but a pic I found:
Toyota/BassRaider
My nephew has an olderToyota and his BR 10E was a perfect fit as far as width goes.
Welcome to the RaiderHood
Hey thanks a lot. Will be ordering mine soon. This will convince the wife........ Thanks
Bomber7 reply :
On 3/30/2014 at 2:12 AM, Trackercal said:Hey thanks a lot. Will be ordering mine soon. This will convince the wife........ Thanks
Welcome aboard in ownership of these fine watercraft - I love my Sun Dolphin Sportsman - gonna take it out I think next week as it is suppose to be nice weather. 
ApacheGuns515 reply :
Well guys you've convinced me!
After reading through this entire thread and seeing all of your setups I decided to pick myself up a 10' Bass Hunter. Found her on a local craigslist ad. Shes quite dirty having been stored in a barn for awhile but thats nothing some Simple Green and elbow grease can't cure.
I did a test to see how much work it would be loading and unloading it into my Ranger and its not too bad at all Ill be able to do it by myself.
Its just the boat itself so i have to buy the other stuff. I should need
Trolling Motor
Battery
Battery Charger
Paddles
Life Vest
That should be it to get me started right? Can't wait to get out on the water!
tfultz reply :
Finally go it today! Exceeded my expectations by far!! Very well made, sound quallity is awesome! Cant wait to install it! 
pawnature reply :
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/user/43895-pawnature/?tab=gallery
Hate to but may have to sell this if anyone is interested.
Brock Grigsby67 reply :
How do y'all unload y'all's boat in the water?
sctrailhiker reply :
Man all I can say is wow. I love my little bass raider 10e. If your trying to decide just buy it. You don't have to feed it and you can just about put it anywhere. Spring is here and I've been out on mine about six times already and just caught my first wall hanger yesterday. I love my boat.
fishcat reply :
If you have a small pickup, like a Ford Ranger, you can add wood "bunks" covered with carpet to get the wide part of the boat over the sides. This works real well especially with a molded plastic bed liner, because they have molded slots for 2x4 and 2x6 cross pieces. On my 2002 Ranger, I slide a 2x6 vertically in the back slot, and lay a 2x4 across the upper slot towards the front. I lean my 8E on the tailgate, then push it up onto the carpet-covered wooden bunks. Strap it down and roll! I'll post some photos later today.
Also, I use "Rivnuts" to anchor 1/4" thread screw eyes and other mounted stuff. You can google them up. I ordered from an on-line auto parts store. Ten cost about $24 with shipping.
basshead1 reply :
On 4/4/2014 at 12:02 PM, sctrailhiker said:Man all I can say is wow. I love my little bass raider 10e. If your trying to decide just buy it. You don't have to feed it and you can just about put it anywhere. Spring is here and I've been out on mine about six times already and just caught my first wall hanger yesterday. I love my boat.
I've had mine for almost a year now and haven't even washed it yet.lol
My wife complains that it stinks up the garage but it smells like fishing to me.
Bomber7 reply :
sweet looking wall hanger SCTRAILHIKER - can't wait to get out in my boat however our spring seems to have been lost somewhere. Had a little snow again last night - man it's freaking April already enough of the winter weather lol
sctrailhiker reply :
our weather has been up and down also. I was lucky that this week we had a couple of 80 degree days but now its going to drop back down this weekend. But at least the water temp got up to 60 the days we were fishing. the fish in this water shed I fish have really started moving in to the flats. I spooked two the day before fanning out a bed and one of them looked bigger than the one I caught. they had a whole cove covered with murky muddy water. my 8 year old son caught a nice 5 lb bass the weekend before.
sctrailhiker reply :
fish cat I use a 8ft lawn mower trailer to haul mine. I took two pieces of 1 inch flat metal and drilled two holes in it so I can keep the tail gate flat and if I can drive to the side of a pond ill launch it like a big boat and use the 4x4 in my jeep to pull it out. works great I never have to pick up my boat unless Im draining water out of it.
chancecraft reply :
Tonight I bought a 9 foot Bass Tracker, which looks just like the Pelican. Needless to say, this thing has seen better days, however i'm super stoked because it's the first little Jon boat that i have owned. The problem is, the boat doesn't have any seats. It has the slide rails like the pelican, so i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction on what to do about seats for it? Thanks!
basshead1 reply :
On 4/5/2014 at 1:31 PM, chancecraft said:Tonight I bought a 9 foot Bass Tracker, which looks just like the Pelican. Needless to say, this thing has seen better days, however i'm super stoked because it's the first little Jon boat that i have owned. The problem is, the boat doesn't have any seats. It has the slide rails like the pelican, so i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction on what to do about seats for it? Thanks!
First welcome to the boards. 2nd welcome to the thread.
I know there is a link on one of these pages somewhere to place that makes improved aftermarket rails for many boats.
Here is a place that sells em for many boats but no bass trackers. You could do some measuring and try it out.
http://www.pedalboat.com/parts/parts.php
Found it.
Try here too.
http://smallwatersports.com/seatframe.html
ApacheGuns515 reply :
For those of you without trailers how do you load the boats up by yourselves? I have the 10' Bass Hunter and while its not super heavy its not exactly light either. I was able to man handle it up into the bed of my truck but it took a lot of work. I have a feeling that Im doing something wrong here. Any tips or tricks or do you guys pretty much just dead lift the thing up there?
tfultz reply :
I watched a guy at a boat ramp last year that was handicap. Walked with two canes and probably upper 60s. He backed his truck up to the boat ramp, pulled out two carped ramps. He had mounted a small 12v winch in the back of his truck with the controls close to the rear. Hooked it to his boat and that was it. Took a couple min. But it worked for him. Thought it might help or spark some ideas.
sctrailhiker reply :
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i have never loaded mine since I don't have a truck. I know that when I clean out my bass raider 10e I flip it around in my trailer with no problems. The only time mine is heavy is when my battery and trolling motor is on it. I suggest that you might be able to make some ramps out of some wood or something like that. I watched a video on youtube of a girl who fishes out of one of these boats and she loads it in the back of her 4x4. but anyway good luck with that boat because there a very useful bass fishing tool.
ApacheGuns515 reply :
Thanks, Ill play around with some different ideas and see what works.
Unloading is no problem its the loading up part thats a bit of a hassle. Main problem is the initial lifting the front up on the tail gate. I have to hop in the truck and bend over and lift it up. Once I get it on the tailgate I just just go around to the rear and push it in. It has to sit at an angle because I have a Ford Ranger which has the wheel wells sticking up in the truck bed.
sctrailhiker reply :
well I saw you have a bass hunter and I think there a little deeper than my bass raider I can stand mine up on end and almost carry it by myself. good luck to you but you can also look on craigslist for a cheap trailer. if you could find a jet ski trailer you would never have to load it again In your truck. and you should be able to find one for around 200
ApacheGuns515 reply :
I've been keeping an eye out for small trailers on craigslist. I was actually planning on getting a bass raider. I was literally on my way out the door to the sporting goods store when I decided to just check on craigslist one last time and saw somebody selling a Bass Hunter for cheap. I went and grabbed it instead not even realizing the differences. I knew this would be a bit of a problem when we were loading it up after purchase. I got too excited and didn't care at the time though.
No worries though I still love my little boat. I took her out with just some paddles today because Im still waiting for my boating license to get here and I need one in order to use the trolling motor. No license required for oars though. This is my first boat and I love it. Excellent group of folks boaters and fishermen are as well. At first I was a bit intimidated about trying to figure out how to drag my little boat into the water on a boat ramp with all of these experienced guys with boats on trailers and whatnot. Got to the ramp and multiple people walked over to give me a hand and help me out. Got me set up in the water and I had the time of my life just being out there scooting along.
Hats off to you folks.
basshead1 reply :
I use a harbor freight trailer and it tilts. I have 2 ropes tied to the front handles and I just tilt the trailer and pull it right on. I paid like 250 on sale and with a coupon. You can get a 20% off coupon online.
This is what I have. I just added a plywood deck. It was easy to assemble. I did most of it myself and halfway through my neighbor came over and had to help me finish. It only took a couple hours and we took our time.
http://www.harborfreight.com/1195-lb-capacity-48-inch-x-96-inch-heavy-duty-foldable-utility-trailer-with-12-inch-wheels-90154.html
JaxBasser reply :
Looking at one of these on craigslist and it doesn't have a trailer with it. Would putting the 10e ontop of a jeep cherokee be possible with two people? I haven't seen one of these up close before so I'm not sure just how wide and heavy they are.
sctrailhiker reply :
I'm actually looking for either a used jet ski trailer or a trailer from harbor. You really can't beat that price. As far as raider vrs hunter I've heard the hunter is more stable. You made a good choice. I bought mine new for reg reasons south Carolina is very strict and if you buy used you have to pay lots and go through a lot to get your numbers.
sctrailhiker reply :
I'm sure if you had upgraded racks you could put it up there it just weighs a little over 100 lbs empty.
basshead1 reply :
On 4/6/2014 at 11:11 AM, JaxBasser said:Looking at one of these on craigslist and it doesn't have a trailer with it. Would putting the 10e ontop of a jeep cherokee be possible with two people? I haven't seen one of these up close before so I'm not sure just how wide and heavy they are.
I had a Cherokee before and I would not hesitate to put this up there or at least try it. I had a 98 and the roof was pretty stiff and ridged instead of flat like most car roofs.
tfultz reply :
Finally found a trailerable cover for the Pelican. Its a little pricy but..what the heck!
tfultz reply :
Has anyone seen the model of Pelican Bass Raider that come with a battery compartment and livewell? Its all pre wired..
jlearsi67 reply :
Basshead, I purchased that same trailer from Harbor Freight. I got the smaller one first, then thought better of that idea and then returned it for the larger foldable one. I stopped by our local notary and found out all the fun and $ involved with getting a trailer kit trailer road ready. First a $100 inspection (so I'm told at least) and then another pile of $ for title, plate, etc..... If I would have known that, I may have just gone with someone's used one or one from some kind of dealer. When I finally get the raider out on the water this spring, it should ride nice and high because my wallet will be much lighter. Finishing up the trailer wiring, then I'm off to get it inspected. Could have used the boat today looking for ice out crappie/perch. We weren't reaching them by wading. The small boats made out today......
basshead1 reply :
On 4/7/2014 at 9:03 AM, jlearsi67 said:Basshead, I purchased that same trailer from Harbor Freight. I got the smaller one first, then thought better of that idea and then returned it for the larger foldable one. I stopped by our local notary and found out all the fun and $ involved with getting a trailer kit trailer road ready. First a $100 inspection (so I'm told at least) and then another pile of $ for title, plate, etc..... If I would have known that, I may have just gone with someone's used one or one from some kind of dealer. When I finally get the raider out on the water this spring, it should ride nice and high because my wallet will be much lighter. Finishing up the trailer wiring, then I'm off to get it inspected. Could have used the boat today looking for ice out crappie/perch. We weren't reaching them by wading. The small boats made out today......
Did you get the title from the manager when you bought it? Mine came with a title that the manager had to sign over to me. I think it cost like 30 bucks for a 2 year registration and a like 15 for a plate.
jlearsi67 reply :
I did get something that looks like a title of sorts, but I never really checked it out yet. It has the manufacturer's origin and stuff like that, but I'll have to look it over a bit closer. This trailer inspection is the killer though. I have to get the trailer to the inspection place without having a plate and title for it yet. Luckily it's fairly close. I like the trailer and all. Putting it together wasn't as bad as I thought it could be. A little help from You Tube and I was on my way. I just need to see the light at the end of the tunnel and imagine my raider sitting on top of this finished trailer in the garage ready to go. Got the trolling motor ordered and picked up a couple cleats for tying rope off so that should get me started with the bells and whistles. Can't wait to add to it though. I just need to get it out on the water and bring in the first load of crappies instaed of watching everyone and their brother do it for me on tv.
basshead1 reply :
On 4/7/2014 at 6:42 PM, jlearsi67 said:I did get something that looks like a title of sorts, but I never really checked it out yet. It has the manufacturer's origin and stuff like that, but I'll have to look it over a bit closer. This trailer inspection is the killer though. I have to get the trailer to the inspection place without having a plate and title for it yet. Luckily it's fairly close. I like the trailer and all. Putting it together wasn't as bad as I thought it could be. A little help from You Tube and I was on my way. I just need to see the light at the end of the tunnel and imagine my raider sitting on top of this finished trailer in the garage ready to go. Got the trolling motor ordered and picked up a couple cleats for tying rope off so that should get me started with the bells and whistles. Can't wait to add to it though. I just need to get it out on the water and bring in the first load of crappies instaed of watching everyone and their brother do it for me on tv.
It sounds like PA is trying to get your money. Down here we only need inspections and to be weighed if it is a home made trailer or a trailer without a title.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
One of the nicest things about these crafts is that you can beach launch them. I wouldn't get too hung up on a trailer. I picked up one of the light utility trailers from Lowes on sale and built a dolly for when I can't get to the water's edge with a vehicle. These float in just inches of water so only have to get to the waterline. I can see where a boat trailer would be handy when there is a ramp as it saves you loading all your gear after it's launched.
sctrailhiker reply :
I live in south Carolina and they don't care as long as u have lights lol. They rip your money off on boat titling .
basshead1 reply :
I had mine in the salt, Matlacha Pass, this weekend and even got hit by a few big boat wakes and this thing is stable and dry as you can get for $500. And I can go where the kayakers go and the $30,000 flats boats can't. I did have a Carolina Skiff fly by me in a no wake zone and I flipped em off. Next time I will bring some rocks to throw at em. lol
JaxBasser reply :
The one I was looking at on craigslist is gone, guy said he sold it just before I got ahold of him.
Thinking about just buying a new one.
Fish_Whisperer reply :
Don't know if anyone mentioned this, but I found this interesting... http://www.pelicanflatsboats.com/#!ambush/ca4p
sctrailhiker reply :
That is pretty cool
Fish_Whisperer reply :
On 4/8/2014 at 12:29 PM, sctrailhiker said:That is pretty cool
It is. I've seen people put 13 hp on those and getting along pretty quickly. Have also heard of verified claims that you can pole that thing in inches of water. Very lightweight, can fit on a jet ski trailer. Not to mention, they just look awesome and very high quality.
Fish_Whisperer reply :
A cool pic of it's capabilities.
I do not own one, nor am I affiliated with the company who makes these. I'm just exposing an option for those looking for a relatively cheap way to get around on the water and fish.
Checky reply :
Okay, I've read most of the posts on this forum, and I haven't seen anyone with this problem. I'll provide as much information as I can, and hopefully I can fix it with help from y'all.
I bought a used Bass Raider 8E last year, late in the season. I've gone out on it a few times and it holds up fairly decent, however, there have been plenty of times when the pontoons/sides stay to sink in. The best way I can describe it is like they are going flat or there is too much weight in the middle.
Now, I'm fairly certain I'm not overloading it. I weigh 225lbs, and with battery, tackle and trolling motor, I'm not even close to being over the weight limit. After the last time I went out last year, I took off half the rubber rail. I used a silicone sealer, that I've used for industrial applications in the past, and some toggle bolts to reseal the seam. Today I went out on the water for the first time this season, and I d**n near feel in the lake because the pontoon collapsed on me.
So, my question to the community is what should I do at this point? I'd like to fix it rather than replace it. Should I just remove the entire rubber rail and reseal the whole thing? Does anyone know if I can buy a new rubber rail?
basshead1 reply :
On 4/13/2014 at 11:47 AM, Checky said:Okay, I've read most of the posts on this forum, and I haven't seen anyone with this problem. I'll provide as much information as I can, and hopefully I can fix it with help from y'all.
I bought a used Bass Raider 8E last year, late in the season. I've gone out on it a few times and it holds up fairly decent, however, there have been plenty of times when the pontoons/sides stay to sink in. The best way I can describe it is like they are going flat or there is too much weight in the middle.
Now, I'm fairly certain I'm not overloading it. I weigh 225lbs, and with battery, tackle and trolling motor, I'm not even close to being over the weight limit. After the last time I went out last year, I took off half the rubber rail. I used a silicone sealer, that I've used for industrial applications in the past, and some toggle bolts to reseal the seam. Today I went out on the water for the first time this season, and I d**n near feel in the lake because the pontoon collapsed on me.
So, my question to the community is what should I do at this point? I'd like to fix it rather than replace it. Should I just remove the entire rubber rail and reseal the whole thing? Does anyone know if I can buy a new rubber rail?
It collapsed on you? It is hard to imagine without a picture.
Is there a hole somewhere else? Like in the bottom from dragging it.
I can take my boat all day without a rubrail and still not sink, I haven't done it but even in the salt water unless there is a big wave or boat wake the water is not reaching the rubrail. My rubrail is actually a little torn up in spots from tieing off to docks in the chop and going to get my trailer and I still never get water inside.
Anyways if you want a new rubrail you can buy one here for $60:
http://www.pedalboat.com/parts/parts.php
If you have a whole from dragging it you can get a plastic welding kit from Harbor Freight here:
http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=plastic+welding
Good luck.
Checky reply :
Yeah, collapsed is about the beat way to describe it. It's the same appearance like when someone is sitting in a half deflated inner tube. There are a couple screw holes in the flir from what I assume to be an attempt at adding pedestal seats. I siliconed them, but never patched them. I think I may end up getting that plastic patch kit and really giving this thing a once over.On 4/13/2014 at 9:23 PM, basshead1 said:It collapsed on you? It is hard to imagine without a picture.
Is there a hole somewhere else? Like in the bottom from dragging it.
I can take my boat all day without a rubrail and still not sink, I haven't done it but even in the salt water unless there is a big wave or boat wake the water is not reaching the rubrail. My rubrail is actually a little torn up in spots from tieing off to docks in the chop and going to get my trailer and I still never get water inside.
Anyways if you want a new rubrail you can buy one here for $60:
http://www.pedalboat.com/parts/parts.php
If you have a whole from dragging it you can get a plastic welding kit from Harbor Freight here:
http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=plastic+welding
Good luck.
If I have the collapsing issue again, I'll take some pictures. Yesterday it happened after 45 minutes, but I'm hoping that me sealing the rail helped out. The rubrail isn't as tight and secure as I'd imagine it should be.
Thanks again for your input! I'll probably by a new rubrail just in case.
EDIT: Okay, I'm at work today, but I had my girlfriend measure the boat for me. Turns out this boat is mislabeled. I looked at a few pictures, making sure my boat was the same as the one I was buying parts for. I have a 10E. Also, I never really looked at how the rubrail looked on a new boat. The one I have is definitely a mickey mouse repair. Previous owner used rivets with Nickel-sized heads on them, every foot or so. Also, I don't think he properly glued the upper and lower sections together before replacing the rubrail.
I'll have to order the new rail and reglue this thing back together. Most likely, I'm going to pull the old rail off, clean the sections of old glue, lightly sand the area that I'm going to put the adhesive on (better grip, I hope), and then glue and clamp it together. Let it sit overnight, check out how it set, and then wait for the rubrail to arrive.
fishcat reply :
That boat sounds messed up. That plastic should not sag. Mine floats like a cork, high and dry. Sounds like those pontoons are taking on water. before sealing it up (I hope you can) be sure to dry it all out and be sure the foam is in decent shape.
Checky reply :
On 4/14/2014 at 1:50 AM, fishcat said:That boat sounds messed up. That plastic should not sag. Mine floats like a cork, high and dry. Sounds like those pontoons are taking on water. before sealing it up (I hope you can) be sure to dry it all out and be sure the foam is in decent shape.
They aren't taking water, that much I'm sure of. That's what I thought at first, so I pulled the drain plug and tipped it. Not even a drop. I'll be dealing with this tomorrow and Tuesday, so I'll give a better update. Hopefully no else has to experience this embarrassing headache.
basshead1 reply :
That plastic should be hard and not able to collapse. Maybe something is chemically wrong with it. Like fishcat says, mine floats like a cork.
Checky reply :
On 4/14/2014 at 5:15 AM, basshead1 said:That plastic should be hard and not able to collapse. Maybe something is chemically wrong with it. Like fishcat says, mine floats like a cork.
That's what mine looks like when I first hit the water. I stand in it, I walk around it, and I'm not worried about it's durability at first. As I stay out on the water, it starts bowing. Like someone standing on a beam or whatnot. I get out of work tomorrow morning, and I'll be hitting up home depot and harbor freight before I even get home.
If you guys know what kind of epoxy, glue, whatever to use, I'm all ears. Any tips are welcome to. I'm not getting rid of my boat if I can help it.
Mainebass1984 reply :
I bought a bass raider last fall. It is awesome. Last fall I caught some huge bass in it. There already has been more big bass caught in it then any bass boat I have ever been in . I live in Vermont and fish Maine a lot. Last fall I managed to catch an 8-1, am 8-3 and a 9-1 in Maine. Going for a 10lber this year !!!
Brock Grigsby67 reply :
Does anybody know the best way to put a fish finder on a Sun Dolphin Sportsman?
kwaldeier reply :
^^x2. Also which one?
Bomber7 reply :
On 4/14/2014 at 11:50 PM, Brock Grigsby67 said:Does anybody know the best way to put a fish finder on a Sun Dolphin Sportsman?
I got one of these and it works great - I mount it on the side so I can adjust it when needed. It clamps on the side of the boat and hangs over into the water - like I said works great for what I need. I also have a Sun Dolphin Sportsman as you know.
http://www.basspro.com/Humminbird-110-Fishin-Buddy-Ultimate-Portable-Fishfinder/product/97460/
jlearsi67 reply :
The more I think about it, this Humminbird is the way to go with a raider. I've been trying to figure out what unit to get for my raider and this unit seems to solve all kinds of issues. My only concern is the quality of the unit - as far as bells and whisles go. It seems too basic. I like the features that many fish finders have now............I mean the practical ones. I don't care about color, but I do like some of the super high def imaging that some provide as an example. I still may pull the trigger on this one eventually. The ease of use really sells it for me.
jlearsi67 reply :
The Humminbird I was referring to is the Fishin' Buddy from Bomber's post. Just like to clarify that.....
bartdude186 reply :
What does everyone here think of a 1999 johnson 4hp for my 10e? i have one in my sights for a good deal, im just worried it might be too much.
jlearsi67 reply :
I really don't have the outboard experience with the raider yet, but the motor rating is up to 3.5hp for it. I would think the 4hp would be fine, but the higher you go in hp, the heavier the motor tends to be. I'm going with 3hp when I start looking. I would look into this a bit more.
basshead1 reply :
On 4/15/2014 at 10:18 AM, bartdude186 said:What does everyone here think of a 1999 johnson 4hp for my 10e? i have one in my sights for a good deal, im just worried it might be too much.
I have a 3.5 and bends the transom at full throttle. 4hp may be overkill but worth a try if it is a good deal.
pawnature reply :
I have a 4,5 Evinrude that will flex the transom pretty bad if you open it up. I had to reinforce the transom in order to use it properly.
fishcat reply :
I use a Hummingbird Fishing Buddy 130 on my Pelican 8E. It works OK for showing depth, weeds, and surface temp. You can play with the sensitivity to show fish or other objects in the water, but not sure it's very accurate for fish (please post any tips for optimal use, guys). Also, I continue to try different wood or plastic shims behind and under the clamp, to get it to hold firmly on the boat rail (a short wooden 1x2 works well). Finally, use fresh "super" AA batteries and attach the unit to your boat with a short cord in case it slip overboard (I use an old nylon stringer cord with a small karabiner hooked to an eye bolt).
BigMoneyGrip reply :
I got my 10E out for about 4 hours this past Saturday, my first real trip in it. I fabricated a rudder out of aluminum and lexan that works great. I have it on a hinge so it won't get ripped off and it's mounted with velcro. The velcro is enough to hold it on, yet is easy to remove. I machined a rod holder out of lexan toady because I was afraid I was gonna knock a rod into the water while fishing. The rod holder will also be attached with velcro. This will keep my reels from getting scuffed and be more secure than just laying them on the side of the boat.
I love this little boat!!!
tbone1993 reply :
Anyone looking to get rid of their raider? Looking for a possible club donation.
ApacheGuns515 reply :
Sort of a funny question but for those of you with Bass Hunters where do you put your registration numbers so they aren't below the water line? The Bass Hunters don't have the large top part of the pontoons like the Bass Raiders do and they dont sit as high off of the water.
Shines Mullet Shak reply :
After viewing this sight I'm selling my alum boat and getting a 10e. My question is you guys who have filmed your fishing success how and what do you film with?
basshead1 reply :
On 4/19/2014 at 8:51 AM, Shines Mullet Shak said:After viewing this sight I'm selling my alum boat and getting a 10e. My question is you guys who have filmed your fishing success how and what do you film with?
I have a Kodak Easyshare Sport for still images and I just got a cheapo Ematic Sportscam video camera that is pretty cool.
Here is a video I shot a couple weeks ago. I got the flu and didn't fish last week. I will be on the water tomorrow for some more footage. I am going after snook on the fly tomorrow. Here are some bass on the fly while I was fishing for bluegill.
Shines Mullet Shak reply :
On 4/19/2014 at 9:38 AM, basshead1 said:I have a Kodak Easyshare Sport for still images and I just got a cheapo Ematic Sportscam video camera that is pretty cool.
Here is a video I shot a couple weeks ago. I got the flu and didn't fish last week. I will be on the water tomorrow for some more footage. I am going after snook on the fly tomorrow. Here are some bass on the fly while I was fishing for bluegill.
Thanks for the information and good luck with the snook!
Trackercal reply :
On 4/16/2014 at 1:44 AM, BigMoneyGrip said:I got my 10E out for about 4 hours this past Saturday, my first real trip in it. I fabricated a rudder out of aluminum and lexan that works great. I have it on a hinge so it won't get ripped off and it's mounted with velcro. The velcro is enough to hold it on, yet is easy to remove. I machined a rod holder out of lexan toady because I was afraid I was gonna knock a rod into the water while fishing. The rod holder will also be attached with velcro. This will keep my reels from getting scuffed and be more secure than just laying them on the side of the boat.
I love this little boat!!!
Hi, could you show a picture of your rudder and rod holders? Thanks
basshead1 reply :
I got skunked on the snook yesterday. 25mph gusts and a fly rod only lead to frustration. lol
I did do well today,lots of bass and a few bluegill all on the fly.
I shot another little video of a few I caught today.
Caught a nice 5.65 lb bass and wish I got to her last week when she was fat with eggs.
py8pointer reply :
nice fish there Basshead1. I slimmed up my boat this weekend. caught a couple of 5 ers and a couple 3 lbsers. where were you fishin in the vids. found a spot for you to try in the cape. N. chaquita and Tropicana. there is a boat ramp right behind the dollar general. give it a try.
basshead1 reply :
On 4/22/2014 at 5:47 AM, py8pointer said:nice fish there Basshead1. I slimmed up my boat this weekend. caught a couple of 5 ers and a couple 3 lbsers. where were you fishin in the vids. found a spot for you to try in the cape. N. chaquita and Tropicana. there is a boat ramp right behind the dollar general. give it a try.
Babcock Webb is where I shot the videos. Some big bass in there and the water is super clear and shallow. I catch over 20 fish every time I go, one day I stopped counting at 40.Big bluegill in there too.
Is that where you fished this weekend? Lots of little ramps in the Cape and I need to try em out some day. My buddy keeps trying to get me to go out at night and hit the snook lights in the salty canals. Hopefully he can make it this weekend. I've done Ceitus and Kismet launches for the salt but I have not tried any freshwater canals in the Cape.
bartdude186 reply :
Well, deal fell through on the 4hp johnson. But today i picked up a 2008 merc 3.3. Anyone have the same motor? how well does it push a bass raider around?
BigMoneyGrip reply :
On 4/21/2014 at 7:54 AM, Trackercal said:Hi, could you show a picture of your rudder and rod holders? Thanks
I will. It might be a couple of weeks, but next time I have it out, I'll get some pics and post them.
Trackercal reply :
On 4/30/2014 at 2:14 AM, BigMoneyGrip said:I will. It might be a couple of weeks, but next time I have it out, I'll get some pics and post them.
That would be great, thanks.
Blehmer15 reply :
Hello, All!
I'm a new member here. I have been looking for a Bass Raider/Buster type of boat for a few weeks now and found this site in the process. I bought a Pelican Bass Raider 8 at academy on sale for $279 on Sunday. I have been looking through this thread and seeing all of your mods and it has given me plenty of ideas for mine. I have already put a Lowrance Mark 5 Pro depth finder, Motorguide 30lb trolling motor, and battery with battery box on mine. Planning to take her out on Saturday down here in north Texas. I look forward to seeing everyone's transformations on their BR and I'll be happy to show the progress with mine.
First question, what do you veterans think about having 2 people in the BR 8? Too small? Pushing the weight limit?
I appreciate all of the help!
Thanks,
Brandon
basshead1 reply :
On 5/1/2014 at 11:27 PM, Blehmer15 said:Hello, All!
I'm a new member here. I have been looking for a Bass Raider/Buster type of boat for a few weeks now and found this site in the process. I bought a Pelican Bass Raider 8 at academy on sale for $279 on Sunday. I have been looking through this thread and seeing all of your mods and it has given me plenty of ideas for mine. I have already put a Lowrance Mark 5 Pro depth finder, Motorguide 30lb trolling motor, and battery with battery box on mine. Planning to take her out on Saturday down here in north Texas. I look forward to seeing everyone's transformations on their BR and I'll be happy to show the progress with mine.
First question, what do you veterans think about having 2 people in the BR 8? Too small? Pushing the weight limit?
I appreciate all of the help!
Thanks,
Brandon
Welcome to the boards. It all depends on how big you are. I think you will run out of elbow room before you exceed the weight limit in the boat. It has a 500lb limit so it can handle 2 big dudes but you will have to work out a system. There are a couple guys in a small one I see often on a local pond and they have it down to a science. I have watched em work a shoreline and they cover it thoroughly and quick.
Blehmer15 reply :
On 5/2/2014 at 1:53 AM, basshead1 said:Welcome to the boards. It all depends on how big you are. I think you will run out of elbow room before you exceed the weight limit in the boat. It has a 500lb limit so it can handle 2 big dudes but you will have to work out a system. There are a couple guys in a small one I see often on a local pond and they have it down to a science. I have watched em work a shoreline and they cover it thoroughly and quick.
Well I'm 210 lbs. I'm sure I can get me and a buddy in their or my fiancé. I have a local soil conservation reservoir that I plan on fishing that I have seen a few people with kayaks or small bass buster type boats fishing. More than half of the pond you can't get too from the bank and the spots you can get to have grass that comes at least a cast away from the bank, so it's really hard to fish. I'll let you guys know if we can figure out how to fish it with two in the boat. I think my next move is to add a wood/carpet floor or deck on the bottom of the boat. Should help stabilize things.
jhrsmail reply :
Hello all, James here. I'm in process reviving an old 2001 bass hunter. So far I've added TM, fishfinder, transom light, and (just completed) waterproof switchbox . There are some cracks in the gunwales. I'm looking for a trailer now. Cool thread, lets keep it alive!!! Thanks , James
tnriverluver reply :
On 5/3/2014 at 8:08 PM, jhrsmail said:Hello all, James here. I'm in process reviving an old 2001 bass hunter. So far I've added TM, fishfinder, transom light, and (just completed) waterproof switchbox . There are some cracks in the gunwales. I'm looking for a trailer now. Cool thread, lets keep it alive!!! Thanks , James
Go to the BassHunter site and order the correct material to repair your hull. http://www.basshunter.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=4
Brock Grigsby67 reply :
Hey guys does anybody know a easy an cheap way to make a rudder to put on the back?
Trackercal reply :
On 5/5/2014 at 12:34 PM, Brock Grigsby67 said:Hey guys does anybody know a easy an cheap way to make a rudder to put on the back?
Go to page # 26 I did what he did for the fish finder but going to put a rudder on it also.
Dan222 reply :
I have a bass raider 10e.. Looking for a recommendation on mounting the battery in the boat
sctrailhiker reply :
I just bought a battery box for mine and mounted my fire ex. on the front of it. I take it out when ever I'm on the road. Works great for me.
basshead1 reply :
Same here. This and the size 29 battery do the trick and they stay put while on the water.
Montanaro reply :
My dad just got one yesterday! Pumped up to try it out soon.
TNReb reply :
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. I've been tossing around the idea of a "plastic boat" for a while and read all 79 pages of this thread over the course of the last week.
I've decided on a Pelican 10E with a MK Endura Max 50. Hope to pull the trigger and get it within the next week... unless I change my mind on the motor before then.
pointhunter75 reply :
Have a bass raider 10e. Deciding between a Suzuki 2.5 4stroke and Yamaha 2.5 4stroke. Which should i get? Can get either for pretty much same price. Is the 15" long enough? Only mercury offers a 20"
tseanw reply :
i want an outboard motor also, are u paying retail cause id like to find a deal.
basshead1 reply :
On 5/10/2014 at 8:14 AM, TNReb said:Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. I've been tossing around the idea of a "plastic boat" for a while and read all 79 pages of this thread over the course of the last week.
I've decided on a Pelican 10E with a MK Endura Max 50. Hope to pull the trigger and get it within the next week... unless I change my mind on the motor before then.
Welcome to the board.
On 5/10/2014 at 9:18 PM, pointhunter75 said:Have a bass raider 10e. Deciding between a Suzuki 2.5 4stroke and Yamaha 2.5 4stroke. Which should i get? Can get either for pretty much same price. Is the 15" long enough? Only mercury offers a 20"
I would go with whichever is lighter and maybe do a google search for reviews. And yes 15 is great. I have one of them 3.5 hangkais with a 15 inch shaft and it works great and I got it for less than 350 brand new.
pointhunter75 reply :
This review gave the Suzuki the best buy victory due to weight and price. On forums I've read that it won't take quick throttle very good without bogging. I found the Yamaha, who they say has the best performance, for like $30 more shipped. People rave about the Yamaha being the best quality small outboard engine. It's 37 lbs and Suzuki is 30. 7lbs doesn't seem like that much of a difference for better quality and performance for near the same price. http://www.motorboatsmonthly.co.uk/gallery/show?id=34394
pointhunter75 reply :
Basshead, me and my brother bought the endura max 45 in the last 3 weeks. Cheapest place was pricefalls.com, his shipped next day and had it 3 days later. Mine took a week to ship. Worth the wait for $193 shipped! They had a 10% off of the $203 price at the time! Plus minn kota has a mail in rebate right now so I'll end up paying $173 in the end. Can't beat that! The 50 lb is $219. Hope this helps you out! http://www.pricefalls.com/product/Endura-Max50/7313195
pointhunter75 reply :
Oops i meant 5% off
tfultz reply :
On 4/19/2014 at 8:51 AM, Shines Mullet Shak said:After viewing this sight I'm selling my alum boat and getting a 10e. My question is you guys who have filmed your fishing success how and what do you film with?
I use a gopro. There nice and has a wireless remote!
tfultz reply :
On 4/16/2014 at 5:42 AM, ApacheGuns515 said:Sort of a funny question but for those of you with Bass Hunters where do you put your registration numbers so they aren't below the water line? The Bass Hunters don't have the large top part of the pontoons like the Bass Raiders do and they dont sit as high off of the water.
I bought a waterproof "capsule" from a dive shop. Works great. I use a rubber light pole mount i got from walmart to hold it.
kwaldeier reply :
How deep does everybody like their rudders and trolling motors?
BigMoneyGrip reply :
On 5/15/2014 at 8:33 PM, kwaldeier said:How deep does everybody like their rudders and trolling motors?
I have my trolling motor mounted on the front. I have it deep enough to just clear the sides when I turn it. I'm not real sure how far it is under the water, though. The rudder is the same way, just under the surface of the water and it's about 9" tall.
slugbug reply :
http://www.pittboss.com/pitt-boss-deluxe.html
Im new to this forum and Im convinced that this is the way for me to go. Has anyone ever heard of these Pitboss's?
Bomber7 reply :
On 5/19/2014 at 4:00 AM, slugbug said:http://www.pittboss.com/pitt-boss-deluxe.html
Im new to this forum and Im convinced that this is the way for me to go. Has anyone ever heard of these Pitboss's?
Interesting little boat - how much are these running? There are so many different types of small boats it's hard to choose.
slugbug reply :
The website shows $459 for 1 or $798 for 2. I may just get the Pelican for the carry space. This would be better than a Kayak imo.
basshead1 reply :
On 5/19/2014 at 4:00 AM, slugbug said:http://www.pittboss.com/pitt-boss-deluxe.html
Im new to this forum and Im convinced that this is the way for me to go. Has anyone ever heard of these Pitboss's?
For that price you can get an 8 foot Bass Raider and for cheaper you can get an inflatable pontoon kickboat and stores smaller. I feel like I would get it on the water and spin around in circles in that thing. For someone that lives in a small apartment with no storage at all and doesn't trust an inflatable this may be a good option though. I think they will need to bring down the price a bit too.
basshead1 reply :
On 5/19/2014 at 6:03 AM, slugbug said:The website shows $459 for 1 or $798 for 2. I may just get the Pelican for the carry space. This would be better than a Kayak imo.
As a kayaker I am offended by this remark. 
Have you ever paddled a kayak? There are some badass kayaks out there right now and if this was better than a kayak then I think there would be more than 1 dealer out there.
slugbug reply :
Ah, dont be offended… I once thought about getting a kayak but the length and closeness to the water didn't appeal to me. For my budget a decent kayak that sat me up high enough to be comfortable and stable (feeling) would shoot me well into the $1000.00 price range. I know there are plenty of "Accends and other Walmart type that would do just fine but the idea of a Pelican for size and higher placement works better for me. Swiveling around to get to my gear is easier when your my size. They are cool looking.
TNReb reply :
Finally picked up my 10E. Put in the carpeted floor like several folks recommended. It made it much better. In my opinion, everyone should do this!
pointhunter75 reply :
May do mine with 1/4" but nothing thickerm it's already heavy enough. Who has gas engines in there's? My new yamaha 2.5 weights the back end down pretty bad. Cant imagine anything bigger on it.
TNReb reply :
Mine is 1/4". The weight is negligible.
basshead1 reply :
On 5/19/2014 at 9:01 AM, slugbug said:Ah, dont be offended… I once thought about getting a kayak but the length and closeness to the water didn't appeal to me. For my budget a decent kayak that sat me up high enough to be comfortable and stable (feeling) would shoot me well into the $1000.00 price range. I know there are plenty of "Accends and other Walmart type that would do just fine but the idea of a Pelican for size and higher placement works better for me. Swiveling around to get to my gear is easier when your my size. They are cool looking.
I was just joking about being offended. My kayak is collecting dust in the garage since I got my Bass raider.
Bomber7 reply :
On 5/20/2014 at 9:29 PM, TNReb said:Finally picked up my 10E. Put in the carpeted floor like several folks recommended. It made it much better. In my opinion, everyone should do this!
Nice looking setup - have you thought about making a rudder for it? Makes a world of difference. Took my sundolphin sportsman 8' out today - caught a few crappie and one LM.
TNReb reply :
On 5/21/2014 at 6:22 AM, Bomber7 said:Nice looking setup - have you thought about making a rudder for it? Makes a world of difference. Took my sundolphin sportsman 8' out today - caught a few crappie and one LM.
Yep.. it's next on my to-do list. Definitely needs one. Not sure how I'm going to do it yet. I have an old, broken trolling motor. I may cut the controls off that and screw something in to the shaft. I haven't found anything laying around that I could make the rudder part out of. Still tossing around ideas.
My dad has a bracket screwed in to the back of his that he just slips one of the collapsible paddles in to. It works great, but I don't really want to screw anything in to the hull on the outside like that.
Trackercal reply :
See page # 26 from Poney. You can use your old transit mount instead also.
Trackercal reply :
How do you insert photos to site?
Trackercal reply :
I think I got it to post.
Trackercal reply :
My photos still not like the rest. Hmmmmmm Click on album to see a better photo.
basshead1 reply :
On 5/21/2014 at 11:42 PM, Trackercal said:My photos still not like the rest. Hmmmmmm Click on album to see a better photo.
I store most of my photos on photobucket or fb and just insert them with a link.
slugbug reply :
Academy has dropped the price on these 8' is now $279.99 and the 10' is $427.99 Glad I waited a bit.
Trackercal reply :
On 5/21/2014 at 11:59 PM, basshead1 said:I store most of my photos on photobucket or fb and just insert them with a link.
Thanks, I will try it.
kwaldeier reply :
Anyone have a garmin echo 100 or 150 fishfinder?
slugbug reply :
Well, Im in the club… I just picked up a Bass Raider 10e from Academy. This is my very first new boat. I can't wait to get it in the
Trackercal reply :
Photo bucket worked, thanks. Poney page # 26 had the idea for most of this.
justwhit83 reply :
Does anyone have an opinion or experience with a rudder that mounts on the shaft of the TM? I have the motor up front and found this on ebay. It seems like it might be more convenient than trying to fabricate one for the rear myself.
TNReb reply :
Nice job on the rudder Trackercal. I'm sure I could rig something up if I can find an old paddle - but what'd you use to attach the paddle to the PVC?
pointhunter75 reply :
Anybody know if Academy will refund the difference in the sale price and normal price i paid a month or so ago? I know harbor freight does this within so many days. Seems like some of the outdoor stores do as well.
pointhunter75 reply :
Doubt it would help much since the rear is what swings around so bad justwhit
basshead1 reply :
On 5/23/2014 at 11:02 AM, pointhunter75 said:Anybody know if Academy will refund the difference in the sale price and normal price i paid a month or so ago? I know harbor freight does this within so many days. Seems like some of the outdoor stores do as well.
Take your slip to the store and find out. It is worth a shot.
pointhunter75 reply :
Will do thanks
Trackercal reply :
On 5/23/2014 at 9:19 AM, TNReb said:Nice job on the rudder Trackercal. I'm sure I could rig something up if I can find an old paddle - but what'd you use to attach the paddle to the PVC?
Thanks, Gorilla glue. Had to sand the paddle shaft to fit a 3/4" pvc fitting. Used a drill with sand paper. If you have an old electric trolling motor you can also use the transit bracket. See page # 26 he has a great idea for a shelf / storage area using 1/2" pvc.
Trackercal reply :
Whats the best fish finder to use? I am at a 30 acre lake 30 to 45 feet deep.
Pond fisher reply :
Thanks Slugbug for the heads up on the price Academy. Picked up one today. The last one in town. I've been waiting 30 years to pull the trigger.
Pond fisher reply :
I am going to mount a trolling motor front and rear. And mount a plexiglass rudder to the rear trolling motor shaft.
Pond fisher reply :
What are warning points for?
Reyn reply :
I remember somewhere In the 82 pages there was someone talking about putting stickers for boat registration on the Bass Raider and what you needed to do. I would appreciate any advice.
basshead1 reply :
On 5/24/2014 at 4:22 AM, Reyn said:I remember somewhere In the 82 pages there was someone talking about putting stickers for boat registration on the Bass Raider and what you needed to do. I would appreciate any advice.
I cleaned the area with alcohol, then heated the plastic with a blow dryer before each number was stuck on, then heated it again with the blowdryer. Then I covered each number with a little Marine Goop.
pointhunter75 reply :
Lady at the court house advised vinegar to clean the plastic and make them stick better than alcohol. Worked fine on mine.
Reyn reply :
Thank you for the replies to my question. So point hunter 75, you just used the vinegar and that was it? Sounds easy enough. Thanks again.
Reyn reply :
Thank you for the replies to my question. So point hunter 75, you just used the vinegar and that was it? Sounds easy enough. Thanks again.
pointhunter75 reply :
Yeah she said people complain about stickers coming lose and they tell them to use vinegar instead and they'll stick better
mmrivera86 reply :
Hey everyone. Here's a picture of what I've done with my pelican so far. I dropped the foot pedal (makes it so much more comfortable and easy to use), added some little rod racks on the side, and made a little pole to attach my bag upfront with me when I'm fishing with someone else (I can take the pole off too). Hope you guys like it.
schnoodlemom reply :
On 9/5/2010 at 4:11 AM, Red said:i will admit on that day, being the first time experiencing bigger waves with it, I was a touch nervous at first. After seeing how it handled, my nerves relaxed. I don't sweat it now when I see them big rollers coming after a bass boat or something passes by. The problem isn't how the boat handles the waves, on windy days, it is keeping the boat where I want it to fish that is a problem.
My sister and I took my 8' raider out this past Sat. on South Holston and went down the lake a bit. When all the pontoons and bayliners, bass boats... I was very nervous and the waves were really rocking us!!! Headed back to a cove and caught quite a few nice Bluegill and a Walleye. Boat did fine and I love it but will never like the big waves. Guess I will go down the lake early mornings and weekdays only. : ) Deep fried the Bluegill with beer batter mix this evening and it is SO worth the fillet work.
justwhit83 reply :
On 5/23/2014 at 11:04 AM, pointhunter75 said:Doubt it would help much since the rear is what swings around so bad justwhit
Yeah, I was hoping for an easy fix but should have known better.
This may be a goofy question, but do you guys leave the seats on the boat when you are transporting it? also was wondering if putting the trolling motor on the front really makes that much of a difference in its performance.
TNReb reply :
On 5/28/2014 at 8:07 PM, justwhit83 said:Yeah, I was hoping for an easy fix but should have known better.
This may be a goofy question, but do you guys leave the seats on the boat when you are transporting it? also was wondering if putting the trolling motor on the front really makes that much of a difference in its performance.
I admittedly have a short drive to the areas I fish (10 miles), but I leave the seats on. I replaced mine with regular (cushioned) boat seats, so they're slightly heavier... but on the roads I take I can't go faster than 45 anyway - they won't blow out.
Consider getting a bungee just to run across them (or through the rails) so they can't blow out.
I keep my rolling motor on the front and prefer it that way.
justwhit83 reply :
TNReb, I am hoping to getmy rig out for the first time this week. Is it mmanageable without a rudder? Some of the previous posts have me concerned about having the TM up front without one.
pointhunter75 reply :
I keep my seats on and run a pull strap(not ratchet) strap from front handle, diagonally over the seat frames to the opposite side rear handle. Need a long strapthough. I tied part of a broken strap to the hook to extend it. I go over one frame bar then under and to the back seat frame and do the same. Can't go anywhere. Ratchet straps would work but i DESPISE them! The trolling motor in front is plenty manageable, just annoying in wind. Gotta get me a rudder made.. Hope this helps.
Montanaro reply :
My dad is putting a stake/push pole on back...hope it helps in wind.
basshead1 reply :
On 5/28/2014 at 10:31 PM, justwhit83 said:TNReb, I am hoping to getmy rig out for the first time this week. Is it mmanageable without a rudder? Some of the previous posts have me concerned about having the TM up front without one.
Just run the motor in the back and you will be ok. With the motor in the front and no rudder in the back the slightest wind will blow your ass end around.
justwhit83 reply :
On 5/28/2014 at 11:49 PM, basshead1 said:Just run the motor in the back and you will be ok. With the motor in the front and no rudder in the back the slightest wind will blow your ass end around.
Wouldnt the same be true of the front end though? If the battery, motor, and myself are in the back would it lift the front too much? if the tm is up front i can at least seperate my weight from the battery.
basshead1 reply :
On 5/29/2014 at 12:13 AM, justwhit83 said:Wouldnt the same be true of the front end though? If the battery, motor, and myself are in the back would it lift the front too much? if the tm is up front i can at least seperate my weight from the battery.
You can adjust the motor to push into a slight wind when the motor is on the back. When it is on the front you will fishtail and spin in the wind unless you are going in reverse. If you have someone with you in the back it may track a little better but if you are alone you need a rudder for the back if the motor is in the front to improve tracking.
Try it if you like it may be ok in a,light wind if you are a big big dude. I am 190 and with the battery(size 29) in the back and my gear there still was not enough weight to keep the pontoons down enough to track well. I had to switch it around while on the water, good thing I brought a screw driver jic, because the wind was so bad I just kept fishtailing like crazy and spinning around and couldn't even keep it straight enough to get back to the ramp..
pointhunter75 reply :
Where i fish it has to be up front. Shallow logs,rocks, limbs etc. You can't see what's in the water from the back.
georgetown bassin reply :
For the guys that run outboards do you have the battery in the front?
Reyn reply :
For you folks that have mounted a rudder on a trolling motor mount, what's the best length for the D.I.Y. shaft?I think, I remember reading 30" from the mount, but I just wanted to check with those of you on what's working for you. I just bought a new mount on eBay.
pointhunter75 reply :
Georgetown bassin, i just bought a 2.5 hp 4stroke yamaha, 37 lbs. I just slid the battery almost as far as the wires will reach, basically under the rear seat under my gf who fishes in the back. Does great.
pointhunter75 reply :
I also glued that anti slide stuff on the bottom of my minn kota power center box so it doesn't slide around.
TNReb reply :
On 5/28/2014 at 11:49 PM, basshead1 said:Just run the motor in the back and you will be ok. With the motor in the front and no rudder in the back the slightest wind will blow your ass end around.
I've ran my boat about a dozen times, and still don't have a rudder for it. It will blow your tail end around, but when I'm fishing alone, it's manageable.
georgetown bassin reply :
Pointhunter, do you have a 10 foot or 8 foot boat?
pointhunter75 reply :
10 ft with the wires
georgetown bassin reply :
I have an 8 foot but mine has a deck built on it with a bow mount trolling motor and with no one in the front i,m having to run the battery up front using my little mercury 2.5 because my rub rail is underwater
TNReb reply :
Finally got around to making a rudder. Pretty simple really. Cut the ends off an old trolling motor that didn't work. Cut a piece of sheet metal to size, and bolted it in to the shaft.
Trackercal reply :
On 5/29/2014 at 11:33 PM, TNReb said:Finally got around to making a rudder. Pretty simple really. Cut the ends off an old trolling motor that didn't work. Cut a piece of sheet metal to size, and bolted it in to the shaft.
That is a great set up. I could not locate any transit mounts under $30.00 so I made mine from the PVC but, yours is great.
TNReb reply :
On 5/30/2014 at 2:14 AM, Trackercal said:That is a great set up. I could not locate any transit mounts under $30.00 so I made mine from the PVC but, yours is great.
I think I'm going to make one for my dad out of PVC. Seems like it'd do just as well, and cheap to replace if it happens to hit something and break.
Getfit74 reply :
On 5/29/2014 at 11:33 PM, TNReb said:Finally got around to making a rudder. Pretty simple really. Cut the ends off an old trolling motor that didn't work. Cut a piece of sheet metal to size, and bolted it in to the shaft.
I got a Pond Prowler and love it all except on those windy days get blown all over. Think I'm gonna find an old donor trolling motor mount and make one of these.
jjohnson114 reply :
im sure this has been asked many times throughout this post . but i just recently bought my 10e bass raider. What exaclty does the rudder do? does it make that big a difference with the wind?
jjohnson114 reply :
On 5/20/2014 at 9:29 PM, TNReb said:Finally picked up my 10E. Put in the carpeted floor like several folks recommended. It made it much better. In my opinion, everyone should do this!
What did you use to keep the carpet down?
jjohnson114 reply :
On 7/30/2010 at 10:54 AM, Red said:Here are some pics of my rig...The Bass Tub ;D
Full shot loaded and ready to go to the lake.
Here is the front light, clamps on, battery (D cell) operated.
Rear light, alligator clips to battery. It also folds down out of the way.
Graph
Seat with Riser I welded up at work and aftermarket padded seat. Life vest strapped under it.
Three rods straped in on one side, three is about the max per side. Tangles alot though.
Last is the floor with the plywood I added. Someday this will get carpet and the BigFoot switch for the motor will be screwed in place. I highly recommend the plywood, makes a world of difference when standing. All my wires just lay on the floor, if I had a trailer they would be strapped neatly, but I have to remove everything for storage.
There ya go, still looking for any horizontal rod storage ideas.
idk if your still reading this post. just got my own pelican. been on my brothers alot. love these boats. can you tell me more about that Bigfoot switch?? also anyluck with tournaments with these boats? im really intested.
pointhunter75 reply :
Contact cement would be best
TNReb reply :
On 5/30/2014 at 2:21 PM, jjohnson114 said:What did you use to keep the carpet down?
1/4" plywood. Carpet is glued and stapled on the underside.
TNReb reply :
I took my boat out yesterday evening for the first time since putting the rudder on it. Wow - what a difference. The boat never tried to spin - it was soooo much easier to control.
justwhit83 reply :
On 5/30/2014 at 9:35 PM, TNReb said:I took my boat out yesterday evening for the firs. time since putting the rudder on it. Wow - what a difference. The boat never tried to spin - it was soooo much easier to control.
Dang. That is a slick rudder but I was really hoping to hear that it didn't make much of a difference. Lol I guess I will have to get my crap together and make a rudder.
pointhunter75 reply :
I want a rudder that can raise up if hitting something. That's how I'm gonna do it when i make one. With my motor there is no room left to clamp one though. Gotta figure that out...
TNReb reply :
On 5/30/2014 at 9:44 PM, justwhit83 said:Dang. That is a slick rudder but I was really hoping to hear that it didn't make much of a difference. Lol I guess I will have to get my crap together and make a rudder.
I had been putting it off - because I am just not good at making stuff like that. It really couldn't have been any easier. If I can do it - anyone can. It's just a matter of setting aside an hour in a day to make yourself do it.
georgetown bassin reply :
here is my setup I had to move the battery box to the front because the rub rail was underwater while running the gas motor I usually fish by myself and without anyone in the front its really stern heavy let me know what you guys think.
basshead1 reply :
On 5/31/2014 at 2:55 AM, georgetown bassin said:here is my setup I had to move the battery box to the front because the rub rail was underwater while running the gas motor I usually fish by myself and without anyone in the front its really stern heavy let me know what you guys think.
I like the wheels.
I am not sure if this against the forum rules but .........
I am in a photo contest for a kayak and if you guys don't mind clicking this link and liking this picture it would be a great help for me.
http://www.paddling.net/fishing/photoDetails.html?pid=187
Thanks, would be sweet to win a new kayak, my back doesn't agree with my old one anymore.
tnriverluver reply :
On 5/30/2014 at 2:34 PM, jjohnson114 said:idk if your still reading this post. just got my own pelican. been on my brothers alot. love these boats. can you tell me more about that Bigfoot switch?? also anyluck with tournaments with these boats? im really intested.
Good idea with the lights. I need to order some like that for my BassHunter.
pointhunter75 reply :
The big foot switch is just a momentary switch. Set your speed and hold it down to go then let off to stop. It has a plastic flip over bar that holds it down for long trolls.
pointhunter75 reply :
The big foot switch is just a momentary switch. Set your speed and hold it down to go then let off to stop. It has a plastic flip over bar that holds it down for long trolls.
Iceman71 reply :
Does anyone know where I can pick up a second seat frame for my Pelican 10E? I bought it used and it only had on seat. Pelican wants $65 for just the frame. Is there any place cheaper out there?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Reyn reply :
Just seen one in a Bass Pro catalog. I'm not sure of the price, but I would guess 50% cheaper. Only the rails looked square.
Reyn reply :
For you folks that made a rudder for the your Raider, what dimensions did you find worked best for the flat part of the rudder?
pointhunter75 reply :
Smallwatersports.com for seat frames but his site is down for some reason...
tfultz reply :
Academysports.com sells em. Think there fairly cheap to! Seat brackets.
TNReb reply :
Just curious.. what sort of tackle boxes/bags does everyone use?
I have a Plano Guide Serios 1444 that I've had for several years. I like it, but it just doesn't have enough space for all of my crankbaits, jigs, etc. I'm considering going with two separate boxes/bags - one for hard baits and one for plastics.
jjohnson114 reply :
How do you guys feel about the bigfoot switch? ive been reading up on them but not sue if its worth putting one on a 10e bass raider? Any thoughts? Thanks.
pointhunter75 reply :
They're awesome jJohnson! I use a milk crate under my seat with multiple Plano boxes in it. Perfect setup.
jjohnson114 reply :
What makes it such a good addition to the boat? so that you arent leaning forward all the time? is it easy to install?
basshead1 reply :
On 6/1/2014 at 10:52 PM, Iceman71 said:Does anyone know where I can pick up a second seat frame for my Pelican 10E? I bought it used and it only had on seat. Pelican wants $65 for just the frame. Is there any place cheaper out there?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
http://www.pedalboat.com/parts/partdtl/br10e/br10.html
On 6/2/2014 at 9:45 PM, TNReb said:Just curious.. what sort of tackle boxes/bags does everyone use?
I have a Plano Guide Serios 1444 that I've had for several years. I like it, but it just doesn't have enough space for all of my crankbaits, jigs, etc. I'm considering going with two separate boxes/bags - one for hard baits and one for plastics.
I try to keep my gear to a minimum and just use a backpack for all my gear which includes a couple of trays.
On 6/2/2014 at 10:22 PM, jjohnson114 said:How do you guys feel about the bigfoot switch? ive been reading up on them but not sue if its worth putting one on a 10e bass raider? Any thoughts? Thanks.
I have one and it is great for trolling or if you need to cut the motor fast while standing.
On 6/2/2014 at 11:42 PM, jjohnson114 said:What makes it such a good addition to the boat? so that you arent leaning forward all the time? is it easy to install?
It keeps you from bending over all the time mainly. I steer with my knees.
Iceman71 reply :
On 6/2/2014 at 8:31 PM, tfultz said:Academysports.com sells em. Think there fairly cheap to! Seat brackets.
I looked on there site Saturday and they said they were currently unavailable for online purchase. Talked to one of their reps and they said they couldn't help. So I looked again yesterday and they were available so I ordered one and a seat. So hopefully I will get them this week and be fishing this weekend. Thanks for all your suggestions.
Iceman71 reply :
Well Academy Sports shipped the seat, however they didn't ship the frame. I contacted them and they said the frame was on backorder and they're not sure when it will be in. Then she said that if it doesn't come in by the end of the week they will probably cancel the order. So now, I have to wait and see if they get one in, then if they don't I;; have to order one from somewhere else and pay more for it and lose a weekend fishing because of the wait.
jakesnapper reply :
I have wanted one of these boats for years. I couldn't pass it up when Academy had them on sale for $279. It had been a toss-up between a BR and a kayak but the wife liked the idea of the BR better for taking the kids on the water. So, here I am....part of the club. I have a trolling motor that I will use on it but have not got it registered yet. Apparently LA has some extra red tape when a boat is purchased out of state. Anyways, in the meantime I was thinking of useing a kayak paddle. I haven't tried it out yet but it seems feasible. Especially with a custom rudder, of which I have not made yet but soon will. Has anybody used a kayak paddle on theirs? How well does it work?
mmrivera86 reply :
Hey Jakesnapper. My battery went out awhile back and so I just used the oar I had as my back up. It worked decently, but once the wind picked up it really sucked haha. I definitely would only use that method on a small pond, cause you'll oar your ass off and then realize you've only gone a few feet!
tfultz reply :
Jakesnapper, rowing these boats is the last thing you wanna do. They do not row well!
jakesnapper reply :
Well, that is not what I was hoping to hear but I guess I will try it anyways. Either way, it'll beat bank fishing in some small WMA ponds. Hey, mmrivera, you aren't 11B , are you? I went to basic with some guys that ended up at the Hood.
mmrivera86 reply :
On 6/9/2014 at 6:01 AM, jakesnapper said:Well, that is not what I was hoping to hear but I guess I will try it anyways. Either way, it'll beat bank fishing in some small WMA ponds. Hey, mmrivera, you aren't 11B , are you? I went to basic with some guys that ended up at the Hood.
No, I'm an Engineer.
slugbug reply :
Has anyone seen one of these?
www.ultraskiff.com
WRIFRAF reply :
On 6/10/2014 at 4:25 AM, slugbug said:Has anyone seen one of these?
www.ultraskiff.com
Thanks for this link....now I'm going to have to go spend more money...LOL
Bomber7 reply :
On 6/10/2014 at 4:25 AM, slugbug said:Has anyone seen one of these?
www.ultraskiff.com
That's a cool little boat - thanks for the link
jakesnapper reply :
The paddling test results are in. A regular paddle is a no-go. An extra-long kayak did pretty well if seated on a board placed flat across the gunwales or used from the standing position like you would on a SUP. Obviously, going into a head wind or upstream was more difficult but not impossible. I think the use of a kayak paddle would be just fine for a small river float trip. No doubt, a trolling motor will be the easiest and best in most situations. The addition of a rudder helped a lot. In the future I will make a larger one but for a quick fix I made one from a old license plate zip-tied to a thin piece of scrap metal and C-clamped to the stern. As for the fishing report, I did manage to put 14 speckled trout in the box the other night while fishing from the BR. Thanks guys for the idea to use a rudder.
basshead1 reply :
On 6/10/2014 at 4:25 AM, slugbug said:Has anyone seen one of these?
www.ultraskiff.com
I like it but did not see a price, just under $1200 in the faq. Anyone else see a price?
I like the idea of being able to roll it or use a hand truck. I do not think it will track well though.
TNReb reply :
I found out the hard way that the fuse that comes with the Pelican 10E isn't big enough for a Minn Kota Endura Max 55.
I was trolling back to the boat ramp when I suddenly lost all power. Fuse blew and melted the wires right in half. Luckily I was only about a hundred yards from the ramp and had no problems padding the rest of the way.
tfultz reply :
Bow fishin rig.
tfultz reply :
Greedy!
TNReb reply :
On 6/12/2014 at 12:38 AM, tfultz said:Bow fishin rig.
That looks great. Any details you care to share?
Do you use your boat for regular fishing? Just leave the lights/mounts on and remove the front deck?
tfultz reply :
TNReb, wish i could. A friend of mine who bow fishis found it on a web site, screen shot it and sent it to me. Thought i would share. I cant seem to get pic of mine on here. Ive tried everything!
tfultz reply :
My happy place!
tfultz reply :
Score!
Brock Grigsby67 reply :
Does anybody flip or pitch sitting down from y'alls boats? Do y'all have trouble doing it
pointhunter75 reply :
Tnreb, I've been meaning to cut that inline fuse out since I'm using a minn kota power station battery box just to avoid that possibility! Need to get on that
pointhunter75 reply :
Oh and I'm using a endura maxx 45. No probs with the fuse so far
tfultz reply :
My batteries, rudder and LED spotlight.
tfultz reply :
Bluetooth speaker and paddle set up.
Iceman71 reply :
On 6/12/2014 at 7:55 AM, tfultz said:Bluetooth speaker and paddle set up.
Where did you get your paddle mounts from. I have been looking for them for a while now.
TNReb reply :
Is your bluetooth speaker rechargeable or battery operated? What make/model is it? I have one, but it only lasts about 3 hours. I've had it go dead plenty of times.
tfultz reply :
Iceman71, their Costal Kayak brand. Web site is kayakfishing.com i found them on google, searched locking paddle clips.
tfultz reply :
TNReb, its an Ecorox. Rechargable, it last for about 8-10 at a time. Sound quality and product quality are awesome!!
jakesnapper reply :
Tfultz I sure like that bow fishing rig. How much run time do you get out of those lights?
jakesnapper reply :
The other afternoon it came a thunderstorm while my boat was still in the back of my truck. When I went to unload it after the rain, I noticed water sloshing inside the hull. Take mind that this is a brand new boat with no cracks. Could the water have seeped in the seam on the outer edge? Mine has the drain plugs in the end so it was no big deal to open them up and let it run out but has anybody else had this issue? Has anybody run a bead of silicone caulk around the edge to seal off the seam?
tfultz reply :
On 6/12/2014 at 8:32 PM, jakesnapper said:Tfultz I sure like that bow fishing rig. How much run time do you get out of those lights?
I dont know. It was a pic a buddy of mine found on a bow fishing web site. If they were LED probably get a long run time.
pointhunter75 reply :
How much was that rudder setup?
tfultz reply :
Pointhunter75, I've got right at $200 in all of it. Cam cleats, pullys and the matterial to make the mount.
Reyn reply :
tfultz,
Since you've mounted so many items to your Bass Raider, I was wondering how you go about doing it. I plan on ordering paddle clips like yours, but didn't want to take a chance of compromising the integrity of the hull.
Thanks.
tfultz reply :
I've been using 1/8" toggle bolts. They hold really well. The hole is not all that big i make. I figured if the manufacture rates them for a 3.5hp outboard or 615lb, a few small holes cant hurt!
Reyn reply :
Do you use any type of sealant?
tfultz reply :
Yes! 100% pure silicone.
tfultz reply :
1st pic.Rear seat, cup holder, seat tie downs and inflatable life jacket.
2nd pic. Front cup holder and moring rope.
3rd pic. Phone holder, safty whistle, drain plug, usb charger and water tight tube for registration, extra fishing license and insurance card.
tfultz reply :
1st pic. Lowerance elite 7 gps/chartplotter with structure scan.
2nd pic. Boat buckles for tie downs and a guide for the boat.
3rd pic. Front tie down and if ya can see em, front guides for the boat.
4th pic. Manual steps. One on each side.
TheBigLebowski reply :
Tfultz......you're a Delaware County boy?
TheBigLebowski reply :
So, I've read all 88 pages of this topic......and I'm in the market for a bass raider 10. I've looked at a few off craigslist but haven't found any where the price of the used ones lines up with what I'm prepared to offer at this time.
For instance today I saw one today, he was asking $550. It was 4 years old and was in fair shape. It came with an older Minn Kota 36# TM that wasn't in very good shape, had a broken prop and a 4 year old deep cell battery. So the motor and battery would need replaced. Ultimately he wanted 550 for the used boat.....and he wouldn't budge on price.
When you compare that with the fact that I could pick up a new one at dick's for 599 and get a 10% discount so 550 plus tax it just doesn't seem worth it. What is the price point that a used one would need to be priced at to make it worthwhile........or what extras make it a good deal.
I will say after reading all of the posts, I sure was an informed consumer when I showed to see the boat......and for that I say thank you.
jjohnson114 reply :
On 6/22/2010 at 7:57 AM, bigdog321 said:Hey Sippi, what i was trying to say is that i mounted the transducer to the motor with the bracket then i took the fishfinder base and screwed it down to a piece of scrap paneling then when i want to use it i just use a bungee cord to strap it down .If you look at the picture above it's strapped down kinda like where that yellow bungee is.
Not sure where you are located but I bought mine a few weeks ago in the DFW,Texas area. Bought a 10e for 429!
jjohnson114 reply :
On 6/13/2014 at 6:01 AM, tfultz said:1st pic. Lowerance elite 7 gps/chartplotter with structure scan.
2nd pic. Boat buckles for tie downs and a guide for the boat.
3rd pic. Front tie down and if ya can see em, front guides for the boat.
4th pic. Manual steps. One on each side.
Tfultz...is your boat the one you see in that video on youtube??
tfultz reply :
TheBigLebowski, yes i am.
tfultz reply :
TheBigLebowski, yes i am.
tfultz reply :
jjohnson114, it is! Ive added a few things since the video was made!
Bomber7 reply :
On 6/13/2014 at 10:47 AM, TheBigLebowski said:So, I've read all 88 pages of this topic......and I'm in the market for a bass raider 10. I've looked at a few off craigslist but haven't found any where the price of the used ones lines up with what I'm prepared to offer at this time.
For instance today I saw one today, he was asking $550. It was 4 years old and was in fair shape. It came with an older Minn Kota 36# TM that wasn't in very good shape, had a broken prop and a 4 year old deep cell battery. So the motor and battery would need replaced. Ultimately he wanted 550 for the used boat.....and he wouldn't budge on price.
When you compare that with the fact that I could pick up a new one at dick's for 599 and get a 10% discount so 550 plus tax it just doesn't seem worth it. What is the price point that a used one would need to be priced at to make it worthwhile........or what extras make it a good deal.
I will say after reading all of the posts, I sure was an informed consumer when I showed to see the boat......and for that I say thank you.
If you keep looking I'm sure a better deal will come along. Even though I already have my boat, I always take a peek at craigslist to see whats out there. Not sure how far you are from Lincoln Nebraska but I thought this one was a pretty good deal - might be something you would be interested in or kind of gauge pricing for a used boat ..... $650 for boat, motor, battery and trailer - it almost make me want to get a second boat ... if I had the room to store it.
http://lincoln.craigslist.org/boa/4511144351.html
TNReb reply :
On 6/13/2014 at 10:47 AM, TheBigLebowski said:So, I've read all 88 pages of this topic......and I'm in the market for a bass raider 10. I've looked at a few off craigslist but haven't found any where the price of the used ones lines up with what I'm prepared to offer at this time.
For instance today I saw one today, he was asking $550. It was 4 years old and was in fair shape. It came with an older Minn Kota 36# TM that wasn't in very good shape, had a broken prop and a 4 year old deep cell battery. So the motor and battery would need replaced. Ultimately he wanted 550 for the used boat.....and he wouldn't budge on price.
When you compare that with the fact that I could pick up a new one at dick's for 599 and get a 10% discount so 550 plus tax it just doesn't seem worth it. What is the price point that a used one would need to be priced at to make it worthwhile........or what extras make it a good deal.
I will say after reading all of the posts, I sure was an informed consumer when I showed to see the boat......and for that I say thank you.
I was in your situation a few weeks ago also. I couldn't find anything on Craigslist either so I gave up and purchased a new boat at Academy for $550. Everyone on Craigslist seems to think that if they paid $500 for their boat and $100 for their trolling motor 3 years ago, then you'll pay them $750 for it today.
stewmagoo reply :
I finally acquired a bass raider style boat. I am awaiting the title from my friend. It is a 8ft with and electric plug for a trolling motor (8E?). Thi is an older one. Instead of rubber around the mid section (rub rail). It is all metal like stainless steel. The only fault is the color. The top half is factory blue with sand bottom. I am going to fusion paint the top half green. The first three letters of VIN are HII. Got a minn Kota 40lb trolling motor with it, it has the aluminum seat rails with upgraded bass boat seats. Any help identfying year and manufacture would be of help. As soon as I can figure out how to place pics via iPhone I will. Thanks.
Stew
pointhunter75 reply :
I am gonna put a plug in mine too. What fitting is it and long to get through the floor?
pointhunter75 reply :
Last two numbers in boats are the year.
Stallpepper reply :
Hi guys -- I found this thread a few days ago when I was pondering getting a Bass Raider for Father's Day (I don't trust my wife to buy my Father's Day present!) and have been lurking and reading since. Great info here; thanks for sharing.
Unlike many of you, I'm getting one of these simply so I can fish two people comfortably on my 1.5 acre bass pond. I've been fishing out of a pirogue, but find that very tough on my back and balance. I'm hoping the Bass Raider will let me fish much more comfortably, and hopefully inspire my wife to float along with me for some relaxing afternoons on the pond.
As it stands now, I'm only going to have a paddle to move it along. I know it won't paddle too easily, but the pond is small and my expectations modest.
I'll let y'all know how it goes....
basshead1 reply :
On 6/14/2014 at 4:12 AM, Stallpepper said:Hi guys -- I found this thread a few days ago when I was pondering getting a Bass Raider for Father's Day (I don't trust my wife to buy my Father's Day present!) and have been lurking and reading since. Great info here; thanks for sharing.
Unlike many of you, I'm getting one of these simply so I can fish two people comfortably on my 1.5 acre bass pond. I've been fishing out of a pirogue, but find that very tough on my back and balance. I'm hoping the Bass Raider will let me fish much more comfortably, and hopefully inspire my wife to float along with me for some relaxing afternoons on the pond.
As it stands now, I'm only going to have a paddle to move it along. I know it won't paddle too easily, but the pond is small and my expectations modest.
I'll let y'all know how it goes....
Get it. You will not regret it. I have a bad back too and it is great being able to stand up instead of sitting when my back starts killing. The seats are are actually pretty comfortable on my back too but if they don't work for you just buy a better seat.
grumpydog reply :
I have been fishing a bass raider on toledo bend for years. At directboats.com I bought an aluminum oar bracket that mounts to the seat bracket. It has oar lock holes on each end so I can row like a regular rowboat, just not as fast. Saves battery, and is easier than one paddle if the battery doesnt last all day.
Works for me.
tfultz reply :
4lb. Not bad.
Stallpepper reply :
Just tried out the new 10e Bass Raider on the pond for the first time this weekend. Here's the unlucky bass that christened the boat, on the third cast. Unfortunately, he was the only stupid fish in the pond that day.
I was pleased to find that it was easy enough to paddle around this small piece of water, where I rarely need to move more than 20 feet at a time. I can see the need for a trolling motor if you're doing anything more, though. Was especially happy to learn how light this boat is, and how easy it is on my back. A big difference from sitting in a pirogue!
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Paddling will get old QUICK if you have to go any distance or against the wind. A trolling motor is well worth the investment. The bigger the better. I have a 32# and it's going in favor of a 55#.
BadBassWV reply :
I had a 40 that just died after 5 years, went to dicks and got a 50 for $229.00. According to my fish finder I'm cruising along at 4.5 to 5 mph depending on the wind. I think my next purchase when this one dies is an 80 in 24 volt. LOL
justwhit83 reply :
On my third try I was finally able to get my Bass Raider out for more than a half hour. first time I got called into work and the second time I blew the inline fuse 10 feet from the dock. I could not be happier with this boat. As a newbie to bass fishing I caught a little guy but it made me even more excited to stay on the hunt for a monster. I'm sure I could find a post related to my question but thought I would ask it here anyways. What do you guys recommend for fishing in an area with a lot of lily pads?I caught this one with a Berkeley shad but I kept getting hung up on pads.
Denea reply :
On 6/19/2014 at 9:49 PM, justwhit83 said:On my third try I was finally able to get my Bass Raider out for more than a half hour. first time I got called into work and the second time I blew the inline fuse 10 feet from the dock. I could not be happier with this boat. As a newbie to bass fishing I caught a little guy but it made me even more excited to stay on the hunt for a monster. I'm sure I could find a post related to my question but thought I would ask it here anyways. What do you guys recommend for fishing in an area with a lot of lily pads?I caught this one with a Berkeley shad but I kept getting hung up on pads.
When I fish lily pads, I pretty just fish topwater. Tossing a frog out on the pads, reeling, and waiting for that monster hit is awesome!
justwhit83 reply :
On 6/19/2014 at 10:41 PM, Denea said:When I fish lily pads, I pretty just fish topwater. Tossing a frog out on the pads, reeling, and waiting for that monster hit is awesome!
Awesome. I inherited a tackle box of stuff from my grandpa and dont even know what half of the stuff is. There is a frog in there that I'll try this weekend. Thanks
Stallpepper reply :
On 6/18/2014 at 12:41 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:Paddling will get old QUICK if you have to go any distance or against the wind. A trolling motor is well worth the investment. The bigger the better. I have a 32# and it's going in favor of a 55#.
I did notice that it didn't take more than a breath of wind to send this thing moving pretty quick. I haven't been out on a windy day yet, so I'll see how I can handle it.
Right now I'm using a small anchor tied to the seat bracket, as others have suggested. My son built a short spud pole out of pvc pipe for his kayak in the marsh, and I'll think I'll move to that method. His is only about 4 ft long, so mine will have to be a bit longer.
fishing_junkie reply :
I bought the khakis 10E (used). My family has a cabin along the brandywine river, so it will be used there. I got a 40 lb trolling motor and mushroom anchor. I'll be taking it out for the first time (well, I had a test run last weekend) this coming weekend. I'm totally psyched! It will be so much easier to fly fish in it than the canoe.
Bomber7 reply :
On 6/19/2014 at 9:49 PM, justwhit83 said:On my third try I was finally able to get my Bass Raider out for more than a half hour. first time I got called into work and the second time I blew the inline fuse 10 feet from the dock. I could not be happier with this boat. As a newbie to bass fishing I caught a little guy but it made me even more excited to stay on the hunt for a monster. I'm sure I could find a post related to my question but thought I would ask it here anyways. What do you guys recommend for fishing in an area with a lot of lily pads?I caught this one with a Berkeley shad but I kept getting hung up on pads.
like Denea said a top water for lilly pads - frogs seem to worked best for me.
as far as all that tackle - check out some of the instructional videos on this site - there is a world of info they share that I still find something new or I didn't know.
fishing_junkie reply :
+1 on top of water. The files I use have anti-weed things on them too. Like this: http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=12a7
fishing_junkie reply :
One modification that the previous owner made was to add a bilge pump in the bottom of it. I'll have to take a pic this weekend- it's a really cool idea. I have read all of the pages in this post and think there are a bunch of great mod ideas. I have the mod bug (I also have a mustang that I mod, so this isn't a big stretch for me...lol)
phototex reply :
On 6/19/2010 at 5:58 AM, Andy Taylor said:I just bought the 8' electric model yesterday, and I have a couple questions. 1) Is there any way to use an anchor with it? The 2 handles don't appear strong enough. 2) Can the standard seat be replaced with a different padded seat? 3) Is anyone able to post a pic of a dolly/cart that works with the Bass Raider? Thanks very much.
Take a look at this for cart ideas.....
http://youtu.be/LjlK1IshnUc
Brock Grigsby67 reply :
Hey guys I was cleaning my sportsman out today and I could hear water slushing inside of it. Is that normal?
Pond fisher reply :
I took my Bass Raider out for the first time today. I Love It! Everything went perfect, except for the fishing. I caught a 14 incher on my third cast and that was it, I'll try again next week.
P.S. What are warning points?
Bomber7 reply :
On 6/21/2014 at 6:19 AM, Brock Grigsby67 said:Hey guys I was cleaning my sportsman out today and I could hear water slushing inside of it. Is that normal?
not sure if it's normal cause I have had mine for over a year and haven't had that issue but there is a drain plug on the front of the Sun Dolphin Sportsman if that is the one you have - you can pull that out and stand it on end - it should drain pretty quick.
Brock Grigsby67 reply :
Thanks Bomber7
Wormz reply :
Hi, here are some simple improvements I've made. Just
Bought this boat a few weeks ago at dicks for like $550.. Well I guess when I figure out how to attach photos from my iphone. Keeps saying file to big. I built a floor and a box in the middle that holds everything so your floor is all clean for you to fish. Also built a cart. Gonna build oar holders next week, and a casting deck. Any help with the pics would be great. Thanks
carpy reply :
I just got my Bass Raider and tried it for the first time on a small reservoir/lake. I read the first 30 pages of this forum so far but plan on finishing it. I will try to cover what a lot of people are probably wondering about this boat including what I was curious about before I bought it.
My experience with boating goes as this. My dad used to have a ~18 foot Kenner with an 88hp outboard that we used to take to the bay a lot. My brother and I own a 14' john boat that we decked and carpeted into a bass john with a 15hp motor. I've owned 3 different kayaks one of which we mounted a 30lb thrust trolling motor to. We also own a canoe.
I chose the eight foot model Raider as it fits perfectly in the back of my f-250 with the tale gate shut. This thing rides great in the back of the truck and even had room on the side of it for coolers, battery, trolling motor and tackle. I think it's 4' wide. I set my trolling motor on some floating vests to hold them down and prevent the motor from bouncing directly on the bed of the truck. I laced rope like a shoelace on my bed over everything but it was almost unnecessary as nothing bounced or shifted at all. I tied the seats to the boat at the front of the bed.
I weigh 160 lbs and have a twin brother. We both fit and rode perfectly on the boat with plenty of space to swivel around and even stand up in front of our chairs. The boat was extremely stable until later in the trip when wind picked up. It was a little scary for a second but the boat didn't rock much at all, it just sort of blew in the wind.
I chose a 50 lb Minn Kota trolling motor. It had quite a bit of power. We mounted it to the back transom of the boat as I don't have a rudder yet but it worked really well. This thing spins like a fork lift, really nice. We were chopping through lily pads and moss all day long and only got stuck in serious moss once which we used a paddle to clear it off the motor. We also got stuck on a submerged stump once but were able to get off of it after a good while of rocking and shifting our position and revving the trolling motor in reverse.
My very first cast in the lake I caught a 3lb 7ounce bass which my brother netted. Someone else on a similar boat as ours was nice enough to give us a bass he caught as well. He said he got his boat from someone for only 50 bucks! and gave us some good pointer on the lake.
The battery lasted the whole trip approx. 7.5 hours though half the time we were drifting or anchored. I got the battery for 80 bucks. My battery box has a battery level indicator on it and a breaker. Cost almost as much as the battery but it's nice to have. Next time we go out we'll take two batteries.
I highly recommend these little boats and it is more than ample in size for two average size guys imo. The ten footer might be nice but I like how light and convenient the eight footer is not to mention my shut bed. If I had a bed cover you wouldn't even know I had a boat on me which would be nice for making stops at the store on the way to the fishing hole.
At first I thought the seat brackets were ugly and I preferred a center shaft but the side shafts are nice because you can fit medium sized coolers and tackle under them.
I will probably build a deck in the boat but may not as it will add to the weight. if I do I will probably only build it out to the ridges around the inside of the standing area so that the outer compartments will remain. The only small downside is that with compartment you need a fire extinguisher but that's not a huge deal.
Wormz reply :
Sorta figured it out. Email these
To myself and downloaded them as under 150kb
jjohnson114 reply :
Here is a quick pic of my 10e bass raider set up! Had a good day in North Texas until the rain hit. I absolutely love these boats. Thinking about putting carpet down, and adding a ruddder. Does a rudder make that big of a difference? Also does anyone know any ifnormation about any tourneys using these boats? Thanks guys!
carpy reply :
Wormz, that carpet rocks! Where'd you get it?
fishing_junkie reply :
Does anyone have advice for a new battery for a min kota 40lb thrust trolling motor? I need a new one. I'd like it to last a long time. I know I need a marine deep cycle battery, but don't know what other options there are.
carpy reply :
From what I've seen, most people recommend using two batteries. With a 40lb thrust motor your battery should last a pretty long time though. My brother has a 30lb thrust motor and the battery powers it all day long. My 50lb motor ran on one battery for 7.5 hours off and on. Just get the biggest battery you can afford.
timbertoes reply :
Howdy, new here and this awesome thread is the reason I am here
new pelican 10E, still in shipping wrap!
my first question is about trolling motors - features ..
( I will get a 50 +/- 5 lbs depending on whats available in Minn Kota at the local stores)
these features:
more money : folding handles
a bit more money : variable speed
basic: fixed-multi speeds
What have you guys found that was really the best for you ?
Any regrets ?
I'll start Transom mount, and then move to bow mount.
Am 6' 4" tall , will that mean something when it comes to reaching for handles/steering ?
thanks very much for any advice.
BadBassWV reply :
The only regret I had was buying a smaller trolling motor in the beginning. I have a minn kota 55 now and I really like the extra speed I get. Being 6-4 You probably wont have any trouble reaching the motor, if you do you can buy an extension.
timbertoes reply :
thanks, went with the 55 variable speed. Hope to get it wet this weekend
timbertoes reply :
Rudder time...
on hand, I have a nice piece of Aluminum, perfect thickness. But only 8-7/8" square.
Would that be large enough ?
And here is what I am going to try...
I cannibalized an old trolling motor. Has a Plastic mount. Removed the head and motor.
Drilled 4 holes to mount a rudder plate.
Not sure if the shaft can be tightened enough - do you think the rudder will move left/right under normal use ?
thanks for your thoughts
Bomber7 reply :
Timbertoes, this is what I did and used - piece of metal from an old road sign, mounted it to a steal pipe I got at Lowe's, got the MK TM bracket off e-bay ($30) - it works great, I just tighten the screw down real tight and it doesn't move. Hope this helps.
fishing_junkie reply :
Well, I got a really good deal on the 40lb motor, and it seems ample enough for now. I'm sure it's not the last motor I'll buy. Thanks for the battery advice. I'm going to pick one up this weekend.
WRIFRAF reply :
Here's a little something coming out by a company called http://canyonlakeproducts.com/. I found the information in another forum of a different site. I'm going to add one of these.
Called the Troll King:
Iceman71 reply :
Ok, I have an older battery that I have not trusted to use. Is there was way to test it before taking it to the lake and getting stranded? Also, what is the best size battery to last all day and what are most of you guys using Brand wise.
carpy reply :
That troll King looks amazing!!!
Here's a dolly I made for my Raider 8 out of 2x3's. It is 12"x12"x8-1/2" tall. I made it in a certain way so that it fits under the boat and the boat's supports don't interfere with it. The axle is 1/2 inch that I cut with a hack saw. I used 1/2" nuts and washers to keep the wheels in place. I'd have gone with pvc but they didn't have all the pieces I needed and I was in a hurry.
It rolls pretty good but haven't tested it yet outside the backyard.
Reyn reply :
I'm ready to pull the trigger on a Minn-Kotta Traxxis 45# thrust motor for my Bass Raider 10E. I plan on mounting this on the front transom connecting this to a Big Foot switch and a rudder on the rear transom.
The Big Foot Switch will be attached to to a carpeted plywood floor? Question For you folks that have a similar set up, how do you take your trolling motor off if it is connected to the foot switch. Do you have an electrical connection that you can unplug from the rest of the hook up?
I was thinking of attaching the foot switch to the carpet with Velcro, unless a detachable connection would be better.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Bomber7 reply :
On 6/30/2014 at 6:23 AM, Reyn said:I'm ready to pull the trigger on a Minn-Kotta Traxxis 45# thrust motor for my Bass Raider 10E. I plan on mounting this on the front transom connecting this to a Big Foot switch and a rudder on the rear transom.
The Big Foot Switch will be attached to to a carpeted plywood floor? Question For you folks that have a similar set up, how do you take your trolling motor off if it is connected to the foot switch. Do you have an electrical connection that you can unplug from the rest of the hook up?
I was thinking of attaching the foot switch to the carpet with Velcro, unless a detachable connection would be better.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks.
I have that step up - and I wired in this plug below - can't remember which place I got it from but it was either Bass Pro or Cabela's - we have both stores close by to me. I have it so I can unplug it and either take the TM off the boat and the floor with the big foot switch attached to it can be lifted out of the boat - I usually clean the boat out and spray it down after a few times out on the lake. Hope these help - if you have any more questions let me know.
I made a video of all my modifications I made to my boat but I can't figure out how to up load videos - if any one knows and can teach me I would appreciate it.
Reyn reply :
Thanks Bomber7,
I failed to mention that I also planned to hook up a plug too. I'm sure your set up will work for me but, the second photo looks like an electrician's nightmare (to me, a dummy). Perhaps your video will help. Good luck uploading it. The photos will help though. Thanks again.
Bomber7 reply :
On 6/30/2014 at 9:45 AM, Reyn said:Thanks Bomber7,
I failed to mention that I also planned to hook up a plug too. I'm sure your set up will work for me but, the second photo looks like an electrician's nightmare (to me, a dummy). Perhaps your video will help. Good luck uploading it. The photos will help though. Thanks again.
well I'm no electrican myself but it was pretty easy hooking it up so you should be able to figure it out.
Wormz reply :
On 6/24/2014 at 9:13 PM, carpy said:Wormz, that carpet rocks! Where'd you get it?
Home Depot. It was super cheap also.
fishing_junkie reply :
Well, got my new battery and took the boat out for a spin on Sunday...
24" rainbow trout on a fly rod. Good weekend
Bomber7 reply :
took my boat out today - not too good a day cause storms were rolling in and it got a bit windy - only caught a few blue gills and one catfish.
Bomber7 reply :
well the wife has OKed me getting a trailer for my boat - looked on Craigslist but everyone on there is either on crack or just plain crazy cause they have most listed for more then what you would pay for a new one - plus some don't even come with a title. Getting a new one I will know I will get a title and at least 90 day warranty - only draw back is having to assemble it and put a plywood floor on it but the price is right.
http://www.harborfreight.com/950-lb-capacity-foldable-4-ft-x-8-ft-utility-trailer-with-8-inch-wheels-and-tires-42709.html
Pond fisher reply :
I purchased this trailer about 5 years ago. I put two bunk boards on it and a 12' aluminum flat bottom. A couple months ago I purchased a Pelican 10E and redid the trailer. I sanded and repainted the trailer (the red paint will be pink within a year) I removed the bunks and replaced with 5/4 deck boards. The deck boards make it pull so much smoother. A great improvement.
What are warning points?
Reyn reply :
Bomber7,
I have all of the toys to hook up my trolling motor on the bow like your set up. Question: Are both of the negative wires from the Big Foot switch connected on the same negative wire coming off of the bow plug? It kind of looks like that from your #2 photo. Is that a three wire connection under that glob of tape under the bow plug. If so, how exactly what did you use to make the three wire connection.
Thanks, Reyn
timbertoes reply :
Just a "Thank You" to all on this thread.
has been very helpful
have had my 10E out twice now, with great results.
OK, no fish caught, but good pelican-boating.
Pond fisher reply :
Anyone use an Autocraft deep cycle battery? They are $40 off right now.
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/6/2014 at 4:04 AM, Reyn said:Bomber7,
I have all of the toys to hook up my trolling motor on the bow like your set up. Question: Are both of the negative wires from the Big Foot switch connected on the same negative wire coming off of the bow plug? It kind of looks like that from your #2 photo. Is that a three wire connection under that glob of tape under the bow plug. If so, how exactly what did you use to make the three wire connection.
Thanks, Reyn
I just wired the red to red and black to black for the plugs and TM - the big foot has two black wires and I just wired one to the red and one to the black. I used wire connectors - the tape is just to keep it all together.
Bomber7 reply :
well I didn't get the Harbor Freight trailer - found trailer on Craigslist - an old jet ski trailer with a platform built on it. I went this route for several reasons .... one I didn't have to put it together as I would have with the HF trailer, plus then I would have to mount a plywood floor anyway. This one did all that for me... I have to make a few adjustments and I probably will re-wire it too. But the best thing is not having to load my boat in the back of my truck anymore. I do need practice backing it up though.
Pond fisher reply :
I purchased an Autocraft 24 series. They have a $40 off promo if you purchase online and pickup in store at Advance auto Parts
Bozz reply :
On 7/8/2014 at 5:12 AM, Pond fisher said:I purchased an Autocraft 24 series. They have a $40 off promo if you purchase online and pickup in store at Advance auto Parts
Pond, whats that code?
Pond fisher reply :
Advance code TRT41. Purchase online and pickup in store.
Chris-W reply :
Hey fellow Bass Raider owners! My father-in-law owns this boat (the 10E model) and is looking to add a pole light 3-4'. For those of you that have added on, what model did you go with and how easy was it to add? Is there a Pelican brand one I need to be looking for, and any generic brand will do? Thanks in advance!
WRIFRAF reply :
On 7/9/2014 at 10:22 AM, Chris-W said:Hey fellow Bass Raider owners! My father-in-law owns this boat (the 10E model) and is looking to add a pole light 3-4'. For those of you that have added on, what model did you go with and how easy was it to add? Is there a Pelican brand one I need to be looking for, and any generic brand will do? Thanks in advance!
Check out this website. This is what I've ordered for mine. I have a regular 10'2" model and did not want to separate it to run the wire for night lights, so I found this solution. It's a little pricey, but worth the price.
http://www.navisafe.com/products/navi-light-360-2nm/
http://www.amazon.com/NRS-001-Navisafe-Navi-Light/dp/B002RAIXX2/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1404915519&sr=8-6&keywords=navisafe
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Navisafe%20Navi%20Light%20Telescopic%20Pole
Bozz reply :
On 7/9/2014 at 7:10 AM, Pond fisher said:Advance code TRT41. Purchase online and pickup in store.
You da man, Pond. Suds & cigars on me if yer ever in my vicinity.
Bomber7 reply :
Finally got a trailer for the 8 foot pond hopper - took her out today - temps were in the low 50s .... yeah it's July. Went to Walnut Creek Lake in Papillion Nebraska.
BadBassWV reply :
Nice setup there Bomber, Looks like you nailed it.
sctrailhiker reply :
Its been a while since I've been online here. Nice mods to all of your boats I've finally installed my nagivation lights on my 10e and installed my floor along with my battery and life vest storage box.
tseanw reply :
kwaldeier reply :
What's everyone using for navigating lights for night fishing? Pretty sure I need them here in MO
Bozz reply :
KW,
I do some night fishing out of my 10E especially this time of year. Built a 4' green LED drop light and have it clipped to the outside of the boat until I need to deploy it.
As for the navigational lights...I use a simple "clamp-on" set of LED lights from Atwood, I think. Each one (front-red/green & rear pole-white) have their own battery compartment with a thumb switch for off/on. Each uses 3 "AAA" batteries. I caught them on sale from Academy back a while ago. Being LED, the batteries last a long time...I haven't had to replace them yet and the rear white/pole light is required to be on all the time according to most state laws. I should note that the notes say these are NOT Coast Guard approved but that goes for a lot of LED technology at the present time simply because they haven't been certified I think. They are bright enough for sure so that is not the reason.
Description says "clamp-on"...they have a screw type securement feature to mount either vertical or horizontal. I removed the clamp from my front red/green and mounted it on top of my trolling motor which is mounted on front (rudder on rear). I also extended the pole on my rear light since the one it comes with is only about 18" or so. My choice to get it up higher and maybe make the bugs move up a bit 
Been a good year for crappie at night here in my area. Got that freezer loaded up.
Reyn reply :
I have a pellican 10E with the trolling motor mounted on the front transome. I would like to purchase a Hummingbird Fishin Buddy 120 and mount it in the front, but the transome has no room left to mount it.
Question: Is there a spot in the front that a Fishin Buddy can be mounted other than the transome?
Thanks.
fishcat reply :
You can easily mount a Fishing Buddy finder on the side of a Bass raider, instead of the front or back. Just use a short 1x2 or make an L-shaped block of wood to get the clamp tightened up against the plastic sidewall. (there is a photo of this back in this forum). Swing the hole for the finder to the outside and go! I also attach the finder to a screw eye with a short nylon rope in case it slips from my hand.
Reyn reply :
Thanks fishcat. I'll try to find the photo you mentioned.
lilphill23 reply :
So i have a 18 x 8 inch piece of sheet metal and i am going to install it as my rudder. I have cut a slot in the shaft of an old trolling motor and will be putting the sheet metal in the slot and securing it with three bolts. I am just curious whether i should install the sheet metal vertically or horizontally. Any thoughts?
Pond fisher reply :
I does not need to be that large. But, I would install it vertically.
lilphill23 reply :
I figured as much but it was what Lowes had precut and i have no way to cut it down any further. But you think 8 inches will be enough to keep the boat tracking straight?On 7/29/2014 at 4:04 AM, Pond fisher said:I does not need to be that large. But, I would install it vertically.
lilphill23 reply :
Wouldn't mounting it horizontal help track the boat straighter?
Pond fisher reply :
I made mine 10 x 18. It seemed too bulky and limited my turning (mine is mounted on my rear trolling motor) radius. I cut it down to 5 x 13, mounted vertically and reinstalled it. The boat seems to track just as straight with the smaller rudder.
Ken
Bozz reply :
My rudder.
Recycled an old non-working rechargeable battery powered weed whacker.
Fit into an old Minn Kota mount perfectly.
Adjustable in many ways.
I bought a square piece (12" x 12" x 1/4") of black ABS plastic from McMaster Carr online & slid it in the existing slot on the weedeater shaft. 3 stainless hose clamps to secure it. It made a good place to mount my transducer also and the cable runs up protected inside the shaft & out the top. Even retained the handle up top. I have since cut a piece of PVC that fits right into the shaft on top to make a LED pole light that is removeable.
The ABS is pretty much same as a section of a truck mudflap which is easily machineable & can be cut without a lot of trouble but I was making an order for other items from McMaster & included this on the order.
No laughing at my pink milk crate for vertical rod holders, etc allowed.
Bozz reply :
Modified an old Plano box & mounted it under my seat rails. Slides with the seat & stays out of the way. Easily accessed.
Bozz reply :
Fun project for me. Saw several online instances of folks making their own underwater drop green LED lights & being the tight ( l ) that I am, started gathering material to make my own. Go big or go home. I went with a 4 foot section of clear PVC and spiral wrapped it around a center section of 1/2" PVC which was filled with sand and slid inside the outer clear 1 1/2" PVC. Again with the McMaster site...I found a submersible cord grip and double sealed everything with clear silicone after gluing it all together. Made about a foot section of white schedule 40 PVC for the bottom to add more sand as ballast and keep it sunk. Apparently I guessed just right on the weight needed because it sinks just beyond neutral buoyancy & stays vertical. Clips that fit the 1 1/2" PVC were accessed via that McMaster site (again...love that site for stuff I can't get locally & disclosure - I am not an employee or connected in any way other than being a satisfied consumer for many years).
I don't imagine too many do a lot of night fishing with their Pelicans but there has been a recent thread about it for kayaks, etc. I do use mine for such instances and have had good success. I don't travel far from my put-in ramp but there is a lot of good spots to fish where I use this close by. It stays out of the way with those clips on the outside of the boat & is quick as a snap to deploy or retrieve & store.
Unreal amount of baitfish I get up with this light & I use a small jump start box to power it. Don't use a lot of juice & have never saw it dim or battery get low even using it many hours on the water at night.
Yeah, I know...I need to carpet those little bunks on the trailer but my lil Hot Tub has seen it's bumps & grinds and another scuff just adds character.
bama442 reply :
Hello everyone. My wife bought me a Sun Dolphin Sportsman 8 footer for my birthday and it should be here soon. Started looking at this discussion and can't believe how much information there is on these little boats and the mods people have done. I can't wait to get mine a start fishing with it before i decide what mods to make. Are their must haves for the Sportsman based on experience? I plan to have it on my local electric only lake in my subdivision. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
Bomber7 reply :
On 8/1/2014 at 6:14 AM, bama442 said:Hello everyone. My wife bought me a Sun Dolphin Sportsman 8 footer for my birthday and it should be here soon. Started looking at this discussion and can't believe how much information there is on these little boats and the mods people have done. I can't wait to get mine a start fishing with it before i decide what mods to make. Are their must haves for the Sportsman based on experience? I plan to have it on my local electric only lake in my subdivision. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
I have the same boat - love it and I have made many mods to mine. As far as what mods to make first - I did the seats - those plastic ones it comes with you will soon find out are not very comfy - I got padded one at Walmart for about $30 each. If there is anything else you would like to know just ask me on this thread or a private message. There are pictures of the many things I have done to my boat in this thread if you are interested in going back through all the pages.
bassinOUT89 reply :
Just picked up myself a sundolphin. I have questions about getting it registered, the boat came with a title thing but on the bottom it asked for a signature from the retailer. Which I didn't see when I bought it. So my question is what should I do. I had to drive an hour to get the boat and my gf was going to register it tomorrow. Now we're not sure what to do.
Bomber7 reply :
On 8/7/2014 at 10:46 AM, bassinOUT89 said:Just picked up myself a sundolphin. I have questions about getting it registered, the boat came with a title thing but on the bottom it asked for a signature from the retailer. Which I didn't see when I bought it. So my question is what should I do. I had to drive an hour to get the boat and my gf was going to register it tomorrow. Now we're not sure what to do.
If I recall correctly when I bought mine from Dick's I got to the DMV to register it and had to go back to Dick's and get them to sign it. (Think they do it on purpose so you buy more stuff the second time in the store lol) Lucky for me Dick's and the DMV are only 10 mins apart. I would call your DMV to see what they say - explain the situation and they might work something out. If not call the dealer you got it from and speak to a manager - have them pay for your gas and time to drive back to the store to fix their screw up (maybe in-store credit). They should know that the title needs to be signed .... it's not like they have never sold a boat before right?
Anyway hope this helps and things work out - once all that get taken care of and you hit the water .... life is good.
bassinOUT89 reply :
Thanks. My gf is at the dmv seeing what she can do. It just so happends that her ex boyfriend's girlfriend is working the counter. Not sure if that's good or bad.
bassinOUT89 reply :
everything's good she was able to get it titled and registered.On 8/7/2014 at 9:29 PM, bassinOUT89 said:Thanks. My gf is at the dmv seeing what she can do. It just so happends that her ex boyfriend's girlfriend is working the counter. Not sure if that's good or bad.
Iceman71 reply :
I'm finally getting my 10E out Saturday for the first time since getting it. I am totally stoked. Just hope it floats and doesn't have any leaks.
ladydilovestofish reply :
On 9/2/2010 at 12:35 PM, Red Sox Bass said:Here it is...
How did you keep it from sliding on down the boat and say in place when you step on it?
fishcat reply :
Regarding the rudder: I cut a slot in a 3' piece of 1" PVC. Slid an old aluminum license plate into the slot vertically, and ran a small bolt through to hold it. I have not yet perfected a way to attach to the transom. I run my MK trolling motor on the bow transom (front), and have never had a problem steering or side slipping. But I don't go out on windy days!
nimbus2065 reply :
I just aquired an 8' sundolphin for free. Can't wait to get it on the water. I built a small casting deck on the front that the battery box slids into being a big guy wanted to push the weight foward. Rail mounted my FF just installed my lights last night. Wanna see how zhe does on the water before I put a floor down so I just have layed in some carpet for now. Will post pictures as soon as I can. My question is my TM is missing one of the pads off the hardware to tighten it to the transom any suggestions? Love the Forum
Bozz reply :
Congrats on the find, Nimbus. If you are talking about the round end being the" pad", and you still have the threaded portion, I would think a piece of scrap wood maybe 1" thick or so should cover you there. Not familiar with the sun dolphin but imagine it has an aluminum section for mounting. Just pinch you a section of wood there.
nimbus2065 reply :
Thanks for the info Bozz that worked perfectly. Can't wait to get on the water hopfully gonna take it out this weekend. Pictures will soon follow everyone's ideas on here are awesome glad I found this forum before I started tinkering.
coachfozz reply :
Just went through this whole topic, I just bought a 2014 Nissan Frontier so now I can get one of these boats. My friend has a 10 foot one that I plan on buying and modifying it this winter. You guys gave me so many ideas to think about now. Thanks everyone.
Bozz reply :
This starts with PAD (Pelican Acquisition Disorder) and quickly develops into PMS (Pelican Modification Syndrome).
This particular long on-going thread contributes to the disease. Read at your own risk.
coachfozz reply :
Oh, it's a disease I can handle LOL
nimbus2065 reply :
FF and Transducer Mod to my 8Ft Sundolphin
nimbus2065 reply :
PVC vertical rod holders and my small casting deck with in laid battery box. Might remove this and just secure battery to the floor need the extra room for when my 6 yr old comes out with me. Please give me your opinion.
nimbus2065 reply :
Switches and Lightening gonna add a spot light down the road
nimbus2065 reply :
As I believe it was Minnow I used some hose I had laying around on my chair bracket rails to both quiet them and keep them from sliding.
I'd like to add a cooler on the bow but I think I have to figure out battery placement to to that anyone have any thoughts on that?
Bomber7 reply :
I did that same thing to my seat rails.
fishing_junkie reply :
I stand up in mine and fly fish all of the time. It's awesome!
Bozz reply :
I made a cooler rack out of grown man's Lego's (PVC) that fit in the seat rail grooves. I made it just tall enough so that the Minn Kota battery power case I use would just clear underneath it. I wanted to save as much space as possible & decided to go this route rather than just sit it on the floor. It gets occasional use for those times I'm going to be on the water for extended time. After making it, I realized it was also the perfect place for several vertical PVC rod holders to be included as well as a "shelf" for my Stan Sloan black light. (I do some night fishing in my lil boat too). With a little ingenuity, lots of things can be mounted on this rack. I made a PVC mount for my video camera that simply drops into one of the PVC rod holders and is a snug fit that keeps it secure. Like I said, I don't always take the rack but have it as an option when I want it.
One thing to consider here is the height of the rack. I have a rudder on the back of my boat that needs to be tilted when I put in or take out and access to that rudder is more difficult with the cooler rack there. My rudder is made with a Minn Kota trolling motor mount and the trigger is harder to access if you go too high with the cooler rack...and obviously cooler size figures in as well.
You can kinda see my PVC cooler rack in the background of this photo below. It's not in the boat in the pic...sitting on a table with the blue cooler in it (it's got a net standing vertical in one of the rod holders). I'll have to look see if I have a pic of the rack & if not I'll snap one when I get by the boat. But you get the idea. If you are using it on the bow of the boat and your battery is mounted up front, trolling motor on the back...I don't see a conflict. Just keep it low as possible to clear that battery and keep weight lower. PVC rack weighs nothing but your cooler might get a little weighty according to how good you are at coercing the fish into taking a chance on your bait/lures...or how many cold drinks you bring along.
I guess I need to get busy painting some of my add-ons...I got a pink milk crate, a blue cooler and white PVC cooler rack.
nimbus2065 reply :
Thanks for info on the cooler rack. I think I might abandin the platform so I can drop that battery lower. Its removable so ill take alook and post som pics of the finished product thanks again everyone
nimbus2065 reply :
Well took the boat out today for the first time everything was going great till we ran into some wind blew us into shallow weeds and we got stuck had be pulled out. Onna upgrade to a bigger motor thinking about a 55. However steering from the rear till that point np. Boat handled like a dream even with me and my son sat plenty high in the water very little roll if any eveb in the higher swells. All in all LOVE IT few small tweeks be perfect.
Reyn reply :
I need to replace the in line fuse for my Bass raide 10 E. I can not find the 50 amp replacement fuse anywhere. Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Chris-W reply :
What an awesome thread! I have spent considerable time looking for the answer to my questions, but forgive me if it's been answered here previously.
1) I want to add a fishfinder to my father-in-law's Bass Raider 10E but I don't want to drill anything for the setup since it's not my boat. I want to be able to remove the fishfinder if I get my own boat one day and leave no trace that it was ever installed. Is my best best going with a "portable" fishfinder like the Fishin buddy series for this application, or would I be able to install something like the Humminbird 398CI SI Combo (intrigued by the side imaging since my primary lake is an average of 6-10 feet deep) without drilling into the boat? I've read mention of a suction cup mount for the fishfinder, but due to the smaller screen size of most portable fishfinders or the 398CE SI model, I love what others have done with the PVC "shelf" for mounting the fishfinder to because of the screen at near eye level (plus tackle storage).
2) If installing something like the 398 CI SI is reasonable without drilling, can anyone point me in the direction of step by steps instructions on how to do it so I know the scope of the job before I buy the fishfinder?
3) Pardon my ignorance, by I've seen many people recommend mounting the battery in the back, and trolling motor in front. If it's mounted in the front, do you have to operate the motor in reverse to go forward? Just trying to wrap my brain around it.
Thanks in advance!
Reyn reply :
Chris,
I can only answer your third question. Where the control head meets the shaft of your T motor, look for a screw. Loosen or remove that screw and you should be able to turn the head 180 degrees. Then tighten the screw back up and then you will be able to mount it on the bow transom and run it as normal for forward and reverse. Think about mounting a rudder in the rear to help it track better without constantly making directional adjustments.
Hope this helps you.
coachfozz reply :
http://www.basspro.com/Humminbird-110-Fishin-Buddy-Ultimate-Portable-Fishfinder/product/97460/
This one should work with your father-in-law's boat.
woody osborne reply :
guys I have problems with my trolling motor "walking" up the mounting plate when I use higher power. motor is a motorguide T34. I am going to put a 1" wood board on it today and see if that makes any difference. I haven't been able to put motor down into the last notch on the tilt so it is a few degrees off from perpendicular. the problem there is interference at outside of boat. I may try putting one on inside AND outside to gain the clearance I need.
if the board/s doesn't fix problem has anybody drilled through mounting plates for a fix with a mounting plate concoction? I can't help but wonder if the tilt has something to do with the walking problem. thanks in advance and I am off with 250 waxworms on my vacation to terrorize bluegills and maybe some perch.
basshead1 reply :
On 8/28/2014 at 12:29 AM, woody osborne said:guys I have problems with my trolling motor "walking" up the mounting plate when I use higher power. motor is a motorguide T34. I am going to put a 1" wood board on it today and see if that makes any difference. I haven't been able to put motor down into the last notch on the tilt so it is a few degrees off from perpendicular. the problem there is interference at outside of boat. I may try putting one on inside AND outside to gain the clearance I need.
if the board/s doesn't fix problem has anybody drilled through mounting plates for a fix with a mounting plate concoction? I can't help but wonder if the tilt has something to do with the walking problem. thanks in advance and I am off with 250 waxworms on my vacation to terrorize bluegills and maybe some perch.
It happened to me too but only if it was turned to the side, then 1 end kicks up and the motor leans a bit. I cut out some rubber from an old inner tube and glued it onto the end of the screw holder thingamajigs and it sticks nice now, before it was metal on metal.
woody osborne reply :
On 8/28/2014 at 12:29 AM, woody osborne said:guys I have problems with my trolling motor "walking" up the mounting plate when I use higher power.
On 8/28/2014 at 3:27 AM, basshead1 said:It happened to me too but only if it was turned to the side, then 1 end kicks up and the motor leans a bit. I cut out some rubber from an old inner tube and glued it onto the end of the screw holder thingamajigs and it sticks nice now, before it was metal on metal.
thanks for rubber tip. I did make one change that helped but didn't solve problem completely. I put the motor on while boat was in bed of truck and get it level as I could then tightened rigorously. didn't move for a long time but gradually loosened and have to be retightened. I will see about getting some rubber pads put on it. I
I didn't have room to put an 1" piece of wood to allow motor to seat perpendicular to boat. I am thinking that will make a difference as well. looking for a thinner piece of wood.
Reyn reply :
Woody,
I have two suggestions. 1) Tighten the clamps down as tight as you possibly can. 2) I have a 45 thrust TM and I found out the hard way that you should go from stop or slow to full speed slowly (gradually). Going straight to top speed will cause the clamp to walk up on one side or completely come off of the transom at full speed. Not fun!
RSM789 reply :
When I first began considering a small boat, I found this thread in a google search. What a great source of information & ideas. Last month, I ended up buying a 10 ft. Pond Prowler and have done a few of the modifications mentioned, with more on the to-do list. Unfortunately, fishing keeps getting in the way of working on the boat
I chose the 10 ft. model over an 8 for space, even though most of my fishing is done alone. I had been using a small paddleboat previously & while I could fit the 6 rods, 2 tackle boxes & 2 worm bags in it, I really tired of being cramped. IMO, the extra 2 feet make a world of difference and allow a 2nd person to come along without being on top of each other.
I already had a 45lb thrust Motorguide TM, I just switched the head & mounted it on the bow (the PP was prewired for stern battery & bow motor). The back of the boat did indeed swing a bit, but when I added the rudder as suggested, it completely changed. If you are maneuvering the boat & casting to targets (as opposed to still fishing or trolling), bow mounted with a rudder will give you the most precise control & most stealthy movement. For the rudder, I used an old trolling motor with the head removed & motor cut off and added a plexiglass rudder (I don't have any welding experience). I convinced myself that the clear plexiglass gives the fish one less thing to see poking into the water . The mount attaches easily to the stern & can be lifted up in shallow water.
I also already had a Hummingbird Fishing Buddy 120 depth finder, which I also bow mounted to the left of the TM. The Pond Prowlers have a more square front than the Bass Raiders, so the portable mount attached simply. I put it to the left to keep it out of the way because I am right handed and prefer to cast from the starboard (right) side of the boat when moving along a shoreline. I find it a more natural motion when side arm casting ahead of the boat or skipping under docks.
In the back with the Voyager deep cycle battery is a collapsible oar & small anchor. I will most likely mount it the oar like others have, but not sure if I want it outside of the boat. Up front I added a Big Foot switch for the TM. I have used both switches & foot controls in the past & for a small boat while sitting, the Big Foot is actually easier to use. A foot control is a necessity for a full size bass boat, but a bit cumbersome these smaller ones. Since the boat is docked at my brothers house, there was no need for a trailer, but I did get a cover from BPS. Works well so far, & will stretch over the raised TM & depth finder mount.
Y'all have convinced me to do the floor modification. The plastic does get hot & in the summer, I prefer to be barefoot in the boat. For now I just placed a towel down near the Big Foot, but a boat full of either marine carpet or that other stuff someone posted 40 pages back will be much better. Although the raised casting decks look real cool, I think I am going to stick with the current rail system & seats (padded & folding). One of the benefits of these little boats is the stealth and sitting a few inches lower helps in clear water situations.
Now the best part of this never-ending first post. After the initial modifications, I took the boat out for the first time 3 weeks ago. In the first 30 minutes, I caught 7 bass, including five in six casts. A few minutes later, I had another soft peck on my Roboworm, set the hook & watched 20 yards of line get peeled off the reel. At first I thought it was a catfish, for we have a bunch of big ones here that love grabbing our plastics & crankbaits. Instead, a big green head & gapping mouth broke the surface and I realized I had hooked a pig. After I landed her, I quickly went back to my brothers house, woke him out of a deep sleep & made him take a picture of me with her. She was 8lbs even and a beautiful fish, perfect coloring with no marks on her. She seemed no worse for the wear as she swam away & I realized what a great way to christen a boat!!
The next 2 times I took the boat out, I had 50 fish days. I really believe the boat had a lot to do with it, for it truly allowed me to position myself as I needed easily without alerting the fish. Remember, I was using a paddleboat before that, which served its purpose but in no way was designed for stalking largemouths. The right tools for the job make a huge difference.
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread, it really made a difference for me.
RSM789 reply :
Oh yeah, here is a picture of my rudder. It isn't as trick as the one that came from the Hobie cat, but it was simple to make and does a good job.
coachfozz reply :
Very nice, my buddy and I are going t get his boat out sometime soon so I can get a look at it. We are going to go together, but I will mostly be fishing by myself since he has a 16 foot Lund.
I am already designing modifications already on how I want the boat to look.
bassinOUT89 reply :
Curious, since i prefer having the trolling motor in the back, would a rudder at the bow work or would that affect the steering?
bassinOUT89 reply :
It's for a sun dolphin 8ft boat. Similar to a bass raider.
RSM789 reply :
On 9/9/2014 at 12:10 PM, bassinOUT89 said:Curious, since i prefer having the trolling motor in the back, would a rudder at the bow work or would that affect the steering?
I don't believe a rudder in the bow would accomplish much.
The issue we run into with the TM on the bow is that when you attempt to turn, the stern tends to swing as opposed to the front turning. I believe it has to do with the motor pulling the boat & not having any resistance to pivot off of. With the rudder in the stern, the boat pivots off the rudder & the front is dragged wherever you aim the motor. It really works well when positioning yourself or moving down a shoreline casting.
With the TM in the back, you are pushing the boat, so it pivots off the motor. You probably notice that when you go in reverse with the motor in the rear, the boat swings all over.
nimbus2065 reply :
Does anyone know if there are any clubs in New jersey for boaters like us? I saw a video about one in oklahoma www.okminiboattube.com, looks like a ton of fun.
Iceman71 reply :
I'd like to find one here in Central Ohio too.
Ronbo reply :
Anybody ever notice how the Igloo Marine 48 qt. cooler fits this boat like it was made for it?
Iceman71 reply :
Took the boat out on Saturday. Very nice boat, had a trolling motor on the front and back. Primary on front, rear one just to help prevent swing.... didn't work like I hoped. Pretty windy, decided to make a rudder for it. Cant wait to try it now with the rudder attached.
pointhunter75 reply :
I still can't figure out how I want to make a Rudder.... Want it to be break proof. Maybe with a hinge and spring to pull it back down after hitting something.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
These boats have such a shallow draft I don't even worry about it. I would make it with a hinge so you can get it out of the way if you bush whacking.
ArtieD reply :
Hello, I'm a new member with a Raider 10e but am considering purchasing a used Twin Troller X10. Any members own one or have much experience with the x10?
Pond fisher reply :
Iceman, I made a rudder from Plexiglas. Attached to my rear trolling motor. It works great!
Pond fisher reply :
What are warning points?
Bozz reply :
On 9/17/2014 at 7:13 AM, Pond fisher said:What are warning points?
Pond Fisher, you can find this info in the FAQ's of the site. But here is the cut-n-paste of it:
What does "0 Warning Points" mean?
Warning points here are a bad thing to have. If you have them, It means you have done something against the forums rules to warrant getting either a warning or a suspension. 0 is the best number to have! (Note that only YOU can see your own warning points. Nobody else can see them, and you cannot view other member's warning points.)
Pond fisher reply :
Thanks Bozz,
My number is 0, so I guess I haven't ticked anyone off.
ArtieD reply :
Having searched the internet for hours and finding little more than promotional info on the Twin Troller X10 I will post my review/observations from a used one I inspected today (no water test). My comparison is the Bass Raider 10e.
The x10 sits lower in the water and floor/storage area is 19.5 x 8' compared to 23 x 8' raider. I've had the raider on open water lakes, the x10 is small water only as the water line stain on the x10 and the owner will attest to. The hull and components are solid and sound. The particular x10 I inspected had many new spare parts, the important and costly ones, motors, blades, controller, wiring harnesses, seat covers, etc...
The used x10 was much newer and much more weathered than my Pelican, apparently the hull baked for a couple of summers, rode hard, put away wet... One motor was locked up/inop.
I walked away without making a counter offer, content my raider was a more versatile, much less expensive alternative.
ArtieD reply :
Forgot to mention the x10 transom, it is much, much stronger than the Raider, were the boat not so diminutive and stood "prouder" in the water, a little better cared for, it would probably be in my backyard now. Also included in the pkg was a good 29 DC btry, working onboard charger and the trailer. Less than $2k and then some maybe...
Iceman71 reply :
On 9/17/2014 at 7:12 AM, Pond fisher said:Iceman, I made a rudder from Plexiglas. Attached to my rear trolling motor. It works great!
I made mine from a piece of Lexan from an old racecar window.
phototex reply :
Can't remember if I've posted on this thread or not. If I have, please forgive an old fart. First of all, I've used the 8' version of both Bass Buster and Bass Hunter for more than 10 years, and have never felt the need for a rudder with my bow-mounted 30# MinnKotas.
nimbus2065 reply :
Finally made my rudder for my 8' Sportsman Used pvc pipe , 3" c-clamp and a 12 x 12 piece of plex. worked awesome had about a 12 - 15 mph wind today tracked like a dream. Only have a minnkota 65 28lbs thrust wanna upgrade any recommendations?
Fishes in trees reply :
Back when I had a boat similar to yours (a 10' Water Buster) I replaced the Minn Kota 65 that it came with and upgraded to a Maxxum 55. I presume that you are wanting to stay at 12 volts, so get the biggest one readily available. Go with variable speed, that is a very handy function. The 2014 BPS Master catalog doesn't show a Maxxum transom trolling motor, but on page 463 does show and Endura Max which has all the features you are looking for. A couple of pages back there is the BPS brand 55 lb thrust trolling motor, with 5 speeds and it is a little less.
As long as the one you got is working, I wouldn't see it as a major priority, but when you get spare money, it is a neat upgrade. You will be amazed how much your top speed will improve and you will be able to crawl at any speed you want to.
coachfozz reply :
here is my winter project. Not sure what kind it is but the seats were actually based at the bottom. But it is over 10 feet, I already have the steps down on what I am building, but now I have to figure out how to install new seats. since these won't be able to fit after I put the floor in. Cost me $150 for the boat.
nimbus2065 reply :
I centerd pedestals in mine bolted them right to the floor I installed. Work awesome I have full 360 movement. And sit higher which is much more comfortable for me.
nimbus2065 reply :
Here's a pic of my seat and floor setup coach
coachfozz reply :
Like that set-up. I plan on putting in rod-holders and was thinking about a casting deck as well. but it looks like it may be hard with way the boat is designed.
nimbus2065 reply :
Coach I had a originally put a casting deck on but I'm a big guy and didn't care for how it sat in the water. For my floor I used 1/4 pressure treated project boards from home depot and indoor/outdoor carpet, had to taper the ends to fit snug. But I like to stand when i'm fishing and it works very well. For rod holders I did the ol' pvc pipe homemade deal it's good when going out but a pain when casting. I could use a better way to store rods if anyone has any ideas.
Fish_Whisperer reply :
I know this thread is reserved for the bass raider line, but seeing how this is also made by Pelican, I wanted to get some opinions on their Intruder model...
http://www.pelicansport.com/en/products/fishing-boats/intruder-12
EDIT: I have also confirmed that I can get it brand new for $499.00
Fishes in trees reply :
My opinion is that a pond boat with molded seats would be more comfortable to fish out of all day than that boat would be.
There isn't any doubt that that boat is fishable. I presume that it has oar locks, so that is two different power sources when paired with an electric trolling motor. That is good. Me, if I could I would spend a few more dollars and get a pond boat with seats, that would be more comfortable. Get a long canoe paddle as a secondary power source and pray you never had to use it. If I was in that boat, I can see myself setting down, fishing, twist a little bit to make a cast and all of a sudden back issues arise, and that is why I'm not fond of that boat. My two cents . . . .
SHaugh reply :
I've owned both Raider and an intruder. neither one gave me what I wanted.. .which was a stable platform to stand up in.
I finally decided to make my own personal pontoon:
Pontoons are filled with empty 2 liter pop bottles and polystyrene scrap. I've made several like this, they all work perfect for stand up casting and tight maneuvers. super light weight so I can easily load into my pickup myself. Super stable because the pontoons let water in and become like ballast... impossible to tip over. When I pull it up on land the water runs right out...
Fish_Whisperer reply :
On 9/30/2014 at 2:45 AM, Fishes in trees said:My opinion is that a pond boat with molded seats would be more comfortable to fish out of all day than that boat would be.
There isn't any doubt that that boat is fishable. I presume that it has oar locks, so that is two different power sources when paired with an electric trolling motor. That is good. Me, if I could I would spend a few more dollars and get a pond boat with seats, that would be more comfortable. Get a long canoe paddle as a secondary power source and pray you never had to use it. If I was in that boat, I can see myself setting down, fishing, twist a little bit to make a cast and all of a sudden back issues arise, and that is why I'm not fond of that boat. My two cents . . . .
I would add my own seat, though that isn't a big issue with me. The intruder caught my eye by being a bit longer than the raider, which means more room for gear. I would be mounting a trolling motor and depth finder. I have a couple of ideas already on where the depth finder will mount.
SHaugh reply :
Then I'd go for the intruder hands down.. It just feels like a lot more boat...a lot less like a bathtub.... Lots more internal room compared to raider..... heavy though... you will need a trailer...
Fish_Whisperer reply :
I would need a trailer either way I go, once I start adding electronics and batteries... You peaked my curiosity when you brought up weight, so I did some comparing on the different models....
Intruder 12: 126lbs
Raider 10: 145 lbs
raider 8: 91 lbs
SHaugh reply :
Yup... anything over 100 lbs is hernia country for me. I had a wheeled gismo I made to load it up in the back of a pickup.. but very hard work... especially on a steep boat ramp... the raider 8 was doable but not the intruder... that's why I like the one I made... 45 lbs....
BadBassWV reply :
If your going for the intruder and keeping it trailered make sure rain water can get from the front to the back. The ones I've seen dont have a way for water to go under the seats, makeing it hard to drain if need be.
pointhunter75 reply :
Bill Porter said cut the plywood 21 1/8" wide but that is way too wide on mine even without carpet on it yet. It's sitting on the curve that the side walls make in the transition to the floor.... My measurement of the actual flat part of the floor is about 20". Any input on this? What width are y'all cutting?
bassinOUT89 reply :
Has anyone fished out of these things at night? And if so what lights did you get for it and what exactly do you need to be "legal" to boat at night?
pointhunter75 reply :
Bought my lights in boat section at academy. The led version clamp on ones.
Bozz reply :
On 10/8/2014 at 11:32 AM, bassinOUT89 said:Has anyone fished out of these things at night? And if so what lights did you get for it and what exactly do you need to be "legal" to boat at night?
I have several times, BO. But my trips were in familiar waters and I tied up to some snags and dropped a homemade "green" LED light for crappie. As for the legal lighting, I picked up the LED clamp-ons at Academy (Atwood brand, I think). They worked well. I modified the white light on the stern to get a little height. Remember the stern/white light is required to remain on at all times in most jurisdictions. As for the bow red/green light, I opted to mount mine to the top of the bow-mounted trolling motor head cover.
Here's a link to the Atwood lights on the Atwood site...they are sold by several places...I think Wally World sells them too but I watched for a sale at Academy and got mine a little more reasonable.
http://www.attwoodmarine.com/store/product/portable-led-navigation-light-kit
Here's a shot of my drop light I made. I got some clips from McMaster and mounted to the outside of the boat. Just unsnap and drop so not a lot of moving around in the boat at night.
SHaugh reply :
Nice drop light. I've been wanting to try this. How are the results ?
pointhunter75 reply :
Yeah they're attwood at academy.
pointhunter75 reply :
Bozz, what did you use for the clear tube part of the light?
bassinOUT89 reply :
Thanks for the info bozz and point. I picked up the lights from Walmart for just under $30. Did site to store and they were ready in 2 hours.
pointhunter75 reply :
Good deal! Glad to help.
mattwade reply :
Ive done it! all 99 pages! I just recently bought a 10ft Pond Prowler off a swap site. Paid $500, boat is just over a year old and came with a trailer, 55# thrust trolling motor, 2 seats, 10# mushroom anchor, 1 collapsible paddle, extra propeller, storage box, boat light, extra boat plugs, transducer (waiting for the guy to find the fish/depth finder). And also my son was very excited about the baby worm we found in the storage box! cant wait to do some modifications to it. I tried to look up info on here for Pond Prowlers but didn't find much.
pointhunter75 reply :
Great deal
RSM789 reply :
On 10/11/2014 at 12:22 AM, mattwade said:Ive done it! all 99 pages! I just recently bought a 10ft Pond Prowler off a swap site. Paid $500, boat is just over a year old and came with a trailer, 55# thrust trolling motor, 2 seats, 10# mushroom anchor, 1 collapsible paddle, extra propeller, storage box, boat light, extra boat plugs, transducer (waiting for the guy to find the fish/depth finder). And also my son was very excited about the baby worm we found in the storage box! cant wait to do some modifications to it. I tried to look up info on here for Pond Prowlers but didn't find much.
Congrats on the boat. I have the 10 ft. Pond Prowler as well & have found all of the info & modifications written about the Bass Raider easily convert to the Pond Prowler.
pointhunter75 reply :
Yeah they're basically the same.
mattwade reply :
Ya, I've fished with my uncle this year out of his 10ft bass raider. Lots of fun wih all the ideas.
Bozz reply :
On 10/9/2014 at 10:55 PM, SHaugh said:Nice drop light. I've been wanting to try this. How are the results ?
I've used white lights for years but the green LEDs...wow. At one point, I thought there was TOO MANY baitfish under my boat.
Bozz reply :
On 10/10/2014 at 12:32 AM, pointhunter75 said:Bozz, what did you use for the clear tube part of the light?
Point, I used clear 1 1/2" schedule 40 PVC pipe. Inside that I had I think 3/4" white PVC wrapped in a spiral with a string of SMD 5050 green LEDs from SuperNight on Amazon. Watch who you are buying from or you'll have to wait for them from China or ??? Mine came in 2 days from here in Lexington, KY...I think the Amazon distribution center had them on hand here in the area is why I got mine so quick. I used some "submersible cable grips" from McMaster.com and I had about 20 feet of waterproof cable to use. Other than that...white schedule 40 end caps and I added about a 12" section on the bottom of the tube to fill with sand for ballast. I was guessing about how much weight it would take to make it almost neutral buoyancy and I nailed it first time. It will sink to as far as I want it to go (up to 20') and it's lightweight like that to handle. I had guys wanting to buy some at the ramp one night when I hooked up the battery clips. They had those you get from Walmart or ???...about a foor or so and about 1/2" diameter. This is a hefty piece of illumination I made.
I have had it down to 20 feet and it never leaked a drop. At first there was a small drop or two of condensation but no problems. The LED's are waterproof by spec but they are not meant to be kept in water.
SHaugh reply :
On 10/11/2014 at 6:40 AM, Bozz said:I've used white lights for years but the green LEDs...wow. At one point, I thought there was TOO MANY baitfish under my boat.
I've made my own too... but only 3 feet long ... that thing is a monster... I haven't had the chance to test it, but it sounds like the cats whiskers for night fishing crappies... will give it a go this weekend.
Bozz reply :
On 10/11/2014 at 7:28 AM, SHaugh said:I've made my own too... but only 3 feet long ... that thing is a monster... I haven't had the chance to test it, but it sounds like the cats whiskers for night fishing crappies... will give it a go this weekend.
And a fun note about these LEDs...I hooked a small 9 volt battery....I'm talking about one of the little batteries you put in your smoke alarms at home...the little square shaped one...I touched the leads to the posts on the 9 volt and lit the thing up. Of course it was not at it's brightest but it goes to show the low draw on these LEDs, which is another great benefit when you use it all night.
pointhunter75 reply :
Thanks bozz. When you say clear pvc do you mean the clear flexible hose or actual hard pvc?
pointhunter75 reply :
And if it's the hard pvc,where did you get it?
hoosierbass07 reply :
Those Pelican bass Raider boats must be tough. At the Izaak Walton club I belong to, people leave their aluminum john boats out on the ground (chained up) all year long, even in winter. I've seen a few of those Pelican Bass Raider boats too laying around chained up and they look sea worthy to me.
justwhit83 reply :
These things are absolutely tough enough for some rivers, lakes and ponds. My bass raider is also a big conversation starter. I have started leaving a half hour earlier than I want to be on the water to account for all of the people asking about it. First time I've been slightly excited for winter. Finally have time to do some more mods.
Bozz reply :
On 10/11/2014 at 11:12 AM, pointhunter75 said:Thanks bozz. When you say clear pvc do you mean the clear flexible hose or actual hard pvc?
The "hard" pvc...it's just like the familiar white schedule 40 but it's clear. I had a couple 4 footers laying around. But you should be able to source it about anywhere that does PVC. Maybe Lowes or Home Depot? I haven't looked there but I would assume they could have it. Amazon, ebay? The clear is more expensive if I remember correctly than regular white. But you're gonna come in a whole lot less $$$ than finding & buying a comparable light online somewhere. I want to support the folks that help our favorite past time but at the same time...I'm not completely helpless and it's something I enjoy doing...tinkering, that is. 
pointhunter75 reply :
Lowes doesn't have it. I've never even seen it before. I used the clear rubber one and a quarter hose to make mine.
Bozz reply :
On 10/13/2014 at 3:03 AM, pointhunter75 said:Lowes doesn't have it. I've never even seen it before. I used the clear rubber one and a quarter hose to make mine.
It's out there, Point. I looked at mine to see if there was a company identification but nothing but run numbers. It's apparently only used for specific applications where one needs to monitor the flow and it is supposed to be more expensive than regular white schedule 40 so maybe that's why it's not everywhere. Just Google and you'll come up with it. I cannot recall where mine came from...I found it in my shop and the light (literally) clicked in my head as to making my own submersible light.
SHaugh reply :
you will need to order on the internet... Amazon has it... ebay too
http://www.amazon.com/Pipe-Schedule-PVC-Feet-Long/dp/B00E2X88SC/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1413217641&sr=1-1&keywords=clear+schedule+40#productDetails
pointhunter75 reply :
They can keep it for that price! Lol
Bozz reply :
I was thinking it was just shy of $20 for a 4 foot section.
That's about right if you're buying 8 foot.
SHaugh reply :
It's nice heavy stuff.. and seals up well just like plumbing pipe... I wouldn't mess with anything less for something you want to sink in water and remain in good condition.
pointhunter75 reply :
The clear flex hose works great and is $3 a foot. That's what everybody uses on the kayak group I'm in. They're holding up.
krginga reply :
I have seen a lot of bass raider people with different ideas on mounting sonar, well, I have had a Portable Transducer Bracket I bought from bass pro for years that used to put on the back of jon boats, well with the bass raider, I came up with another idea. I removed one of the front handles and just took two pieces of 2x4 and made a bracket to put the portable mount out far enough to use it on the bass raider.
pointhunter75 reply :
Looks good
mattwade reply :
looking for space saving storage ideas for my 10ft pond prowler. I will be fishing 2 in the boat. sometimes 3 when my wife tags along with my son and I. any suggestions would be great.
Brian6428 reply :
On 10/24/2014 at 1:30 AM, mattwade said:looking for space saving storage ideas for my 10ft pond prowler. I will be fishing 2 in the boat. sometimes 3 when my wife tags along with my son and I. any suggestions would be great.
One pond boat I've seen around here had three people in it, the middle one sitting on a bucket. You could get a padded bucket and use it for a seat and storage when you have three. Other than that, I always thought the area under the seats was an under-utilized storage space. I bet you could get creative and build a box to attach to the seat frame that could increase storage from just setting things on the floor under the seat.
pointhunter75 reply :
Milk crate fits perfect under the seat. I glued some of the non slide mat stuff to the bottom of mine with 3m spray adhesive.
mattwade reply :
On 10/24/2014 at 7:38 PM, pointhunter75 said:Milk crate fits perfect under the seat. I glued some of the non slide mat stuff to the bottom of mine with 3m spray adhesive.
Ya my Uncle did this under the seats in his Bass raider. Im for sure stealing that idea, its wide enough so my Planos will fit in there. It works great for not taking up prime floor space. I like the bucket idea, the prowler came with a removable storage box that I think im going to try and mount a bleacher seat to. that way it doubles up.
pointhunter75 reply :
Yeah I keep a large Plano tray In there and a kayak anchor, led nav lights, skeeter spray, waterproof box with phone and wallet. Other stuff and a telescopic emergency paddle
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
FWIW, take out the emergency paddle and try paddling that thing into even a light breeze. Not fun.
basshead1 reply :
On 10/25/2014 at 1:49 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:FWIW, take out the emergency paddle and try paddling that thing into even a light breeze. Not fun.
I use a double bladed kayak paddle and it works better. It takes a few strokes to get going but once you build up momentum it glides nice. I pull out my trolling motor and just paddle if I find myself getting stuck in thick weeds or lilies. I also have an 8 foot stick anchor that I use as a push pole sometimes.
mattwade reply :
Here is a pic of my under the seat tackle storage I made out of some old wire shelving unit I had laying around in the garage. Holds 6 of my plano boxes, and fits perfectly under my seat.
mattwade reply :
here it is mounted under the seat. There is room on the sides where I am going to add some small tool holders for things like pliers, scissors, knife. I think this is going to work out great and really reduce down the clutter in the boat and keep things organized.
Sooner nation reply :
A pop cate from coke fits great under the seat held in place by some zip ties to seat frame. Plus it hold lure boxes perfect. You can get 5 boxes in the crate
Inflatable Raft Bum reply :
On 3/5/2014 at 9:25 AM, py8pointer said:getting ready to put some slim in the boat. I love this boat
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Puramid State Park in the avatar?
EricDkk reply :
DSG has 10E for $479 before tax.
Free Store pick up.
tfultz reply :
Be hard to fish out of but..first one I've seen with a canopy!
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
My canopy sits on my head and when I'm not fishing it doubles as a hat.
Bomber7 reply :
On 12/17/2014 at 3:12 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:My canopy sits on my head and when I'm not fishing it doubles as a hat.
I got a wide assortment of those canopies - actually I like the canopy in the photo cause I have the same boat.
lilsweepr reply :
Hello all, finally got my trailer project done for my 10' raider. I purchased a dual seadoo trailer that was not in running order and converted it to use with my raider, "The Fred". Seadoo trailers are hard to come by and i noticed this one and a single one day while fishing our lake. When we got done I drove around to where the trailer was and asked about purchasing it. After about a month I finally got the owner and since he was only willing to part with the dual trailer, that is what I got. I had been looking for a couple of months up till then. I believe a single would be slightly more comfortable to deal woth but i like the idea of being able to strap stuff to the "sideboards" of the dual trailer.
Had to replace the hubs and wheels, sanded and painted, new lights and new safety chains. Also reused and painted the existing hardware to use for the new oversized bunks which I made and carpeted myself.
This is after sanding and painting - thanks to a neighbor who painted it for me.
This is after I added the bunks and was trying it on for size.
This is after adding the sideboards which may hold a box eventually to hold "stuff" when we are traveling.
This is my complete trailer.
Another angle.
Time to load her up!
Now I just need to get my rudder made.
Trackercal reply :
How is everyone storing their boats up off the ground? Any one way better than another? Thanks for any help.
lilsweepr reply :
I am just storing mine upside down on its trailer. I have been covering it with a tarp but they keep getting sun damaged. I store the seats in my shed. I am going to build a little tin top shed to get it covered and then also purchase a new cover that has the elastic around the bottom. the shed should keep it from getting sun damaged and the seats will be left in it to hold the cover up so moisture will not collect in the middle.
Trackercal reply :
On 1/9/2015 at 11:41 PM, lilsweepr said:I am just storing mine upside down on its trailer. I have been covering it with a tarp but they keep getting sun damaged. I store the seats in my shed. I am going to build a little tin top shed to get it covered and then also purchase a new cover that has the elastic around the bottom. the shed should keep it from getting sun damaged and the seats will be left in it to hold the cover up so moisture will not collect in the middle.
I bought the elastic cover, did not last a year. I have a tarp over it right now. I am at the Oregon coast and we get 60 to 80 mile an hour winds. Could be why elastic cover did not last. Thanks for the advise though. By the way nice trailer.
lilsweepr reply :
Thanks. We do not have winds like that here, at least not without a hurricane or tornado blowing thru. The sun can be brutal though, which is why I want to put a hardtop up and not just a cover/tarp. The elastic would be nice so i wouldn't have to use giant clips on tarp. Been there, done that.
tarheelblaze reply :
I have a bass hunter 10ex, I love this boat, sold my 1998 stratos 3 years ago and went without a boat until last spring, I have a 2.5 Suzuki in the rear and a 30lb motorguide on the front, a hummingbird on the front, rod holders and a builge pump, the bass hunter is a one piece hull it has a drain plug in the floor
fharmon1 reply :
On 1/9/2015 at 11:16 PM, Trackercal said:How is everyone storing their boats up off the ground? Any one way better than another? Thanks for any help.
I've heard some are using 2 of these (link below) bike lifts to store boat in garage. think i'm gonna try it.
http://www.amazon.com/RAD-Cycle-Products-Bike-Hoist/dp/B000PEURIQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424241409&sr=8-1&keywords=garage+bike+lift
Harry53 reply :
On 2/18/2015 at 2:41 PM, fharmon1 said:I've heard some are using 2 of these (link below) bike lifts to store boat in garage. think i'm gonna try it.
http://www.amazon.com/RAD-Cycle-Products-Bike-Hoist/dp/B000PEURIQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424241409&sr=8-1&keywords=garage+bike+lift
Harbor Freight has a bicycle lift for $8.99. I use a 2x6 slightly longer than my 10E with an eye bolt thru the board at each end. I pull my boat up to the garage rafters and hang the seats on the back wall of the garage from two hooks screwed into the studs. Clean dry and out of the way.
Iceman71 reply :
the load weight is only for a max of 100lbs. is that strong enough to hold a 10e?
PortCityLipRipper reply :
I have a pelican bass raider 8'. I would really like to build a casting deck on the front or something i can store tackle under. Also, my troller motor and battery are in the back and its so unlevel and if i sit in the front, i cant reach the trolling motor. so is there like an extension wire i can buy to extend from the battery to the trolling motor. thanks
mmrivera86 reply :
What kind of trolling motor do you have? I have a bowmount trolling motor, so I made the deck, bolted the motor to it, and just extended the power cable so it could reach the back where the battery is. Also, if you make the deck, I highly recommend you sink the trolling motor down cause it makes the foot pedal so much more comfortable to use.
Jtholder23 reply :
Hey everyone, been reading all the great ideals and finally registered an account. I just bought a pelican 10e yesterday and like most I can't wait to do some customizing. I've read a lot about ppl having trouble with wind blowing these little boats around or drifting off fishing sight. Has anyone tried a power pole micro anchor? I have one added to shopping cart on bass pro but was looking for some input before I spent the $$$. Any opions or ideals are greatly appreciated.
zachb34 reply :
I have one on my jon boat and I love it. Soon, I'll be buying a clamp mount for my coleman perch so I can swap it back and forth from boat to boat.On 3/4/2015 at 12:21 PM, Jtholder23 said:Hey everyone, been reading all the great ideals and finally registered an account. I just bought a pelican 10e yesterday and like most I can't wait to do some customizing. I've read a lot about ppl having trouble with wind blowing these little boats around or drifting off fishing sight. Has anyone tried a power pole micro anchor? I have one added to shopping cart on bass pro but was looking for some input before I spent the $$$. Any opions or ideals are greatly appreciated.
lilsweepr reply :
It is true that you can get blown around in the wind trying to fish a spot. I have a small anchor that the son puts out if we feel the need. We have actually only used it once though. Might be because of its "convenience". I imagine the micro power pole would indeed get more use but I cannot see spending as much on it as the boat itself cost (for myself).
As far as a rudder goes, I made one out of pvc pipe and its best asset is when we are under power, not much help when fishing a spot. still gonna get blown around. It might has helped with the "sailboating " (blowing in circles) a little but its main advantage is the straight line it can help keep when under power.
I am still in search of a broken transom mount trolling motor to convert to a rudder that can be tilted, lowered and raised by just using its built in functions. The mount is mostly what i am after.
Jtholder23 reply :
Very interesting creation. I might have to look into a rudder. Ordered the power pole, just can't imagine fishin without one any more. I've fished tournaments for yrs. Decided to take a break. Partner sold the boat so this will keep me prowling around marinas and small lakes for now. I'm really gonna focus on learning crappie.
PortCityLipRipper reply :
On 3/4/2015 at 3:20 AM, mmrivera86 said:What kind of trolling motor do you have? I have a bowmount trolling motor, so I made the deck, bolted the motor to it, and just extended the power cable so it could reach the back where the battery is. Also, if you make the deck, I highly recommend you sink the trolling motor down cause it makes the foot pedal so much more comfortable to use.
I have a motorguid tiller motor. how did you extend the power cable?
mmrivera86 reply :
On 3/5/2015 at 10:23 AM, PortCityLipRipper said:I have a motorguid tiller motor. how did you extend the power cable?
Just bought some wire from Home Depot and soldered it to the power cables on the trolling motor. Also put some connectors on the ends of the cables so it can still be bolt down to the battery. Made it long enough so that it go under the deck to the battery in the back. So you do have a foot pedal with your trolling motor?
Jtholder23 reply :
Is a 4hp Mercury to much for these boats?? (Pelican10e)
tfultz reply :
So ready for spring. Cover should be here soon! Only took three years to find one that's trailerable.
wnspain reply :
On 3/8/2015 at 12:37 AM, tfultz said:So ready for spring. Cover should be here soon! Only took three years to find one that's trailerable.
OK, so I have a question. Prepared to pick up a 10e soon and have read this thread front to back. A lot of good stuff in here. My question is the transducer mounted on the TM. Does it affect the image you see on your unit? I've researched this and there seems to be differing opinions. To me it's logical that it would, especially with DSI. Regular 2D imaging perhaps not so much, but DSI is very directional and sweeps a narrow thin path to provide increased resolution. When you change the direction of that sweep (changing the position/direction of the TM), you also change the orientation of what is seen on the screen. The "expert" at bass pro made a pretty convincing case, anyone have any experience or tech facts to refute that? Thanks in advance...
wnspain reply :
On 3/8/2015 at 12:37 AM, tfultz said:So ready for spring. Cover should be here soon! Only took three years to find one that's trailerable.
Nice Raider btw Care to share where you found the trailerable cover for your 10e??
Jtholder23 reply :
Them tan colored one's are so sick looking. Never seen one in person.
tfultz reply :
I found it at boatcoversdirect.com. Price isn't to bad. As far as transducer goes, I haven't noticed anything odd. It's been there for two, three years.
wnspain reply :
On 3/9/2015 at 6:50 AM, tfultz said:I found it at boatcoversdirect.com. Price isn't to bad. As far as transducer goes, I haven't noticed anything odd. It's been there for two, three years.
Do you have a unit with DSI?
Thanks for the link
tfultz reply :
Yes. Lowrance elite 7 DSI
Jtholder23 reply :
Had my 10e for about a week. Finally getting things under way. Found a jet ski trailer to customize, went to Academy and bought several unique items all made by attwood. Led clamping spotlight and clamping running lights were among the coolest. But has anyone have experience with putting screws or rivets on these boats? Any problems screws pulling out? The rivets for kayaks and small boats seem like they'd work.
tfultz reply :
Got my cover today! Seems well made. Good tight fit!
Johns0729 reply :
I just recently purchased a pelican intruder. Does anyone have any advice on attaching swivel seats the the bench seats?
Thanks,
John
bassinOUT89 reply :
there is john boat seat clamps that would probably work. But from what I've heard, you aren't really able to lean back too hard.On 3/31/2015 at 11:05 PM, Johns0729 said:I just recently purchased a pelican intruder. Does anyone have any advice on attaching swivel seats the the bench seats?
Thanks,
John
RHuff reply :
On 3/4/2015 at 3:00 AM, PortCityLipRipper said:I have a pelican bass raider 8'. I would really like to build a casting deck on the front or something i can store tackle under. Also, my troller motor and battery are in the back and its so unlevel and if i sit in the front, i cant reach the trolling motor. so is there like an extension wire i can buy to extend from the battery to the trolling motor. thanks
I have this exact boat. I just purchased a 4x8 sheet of treated 3/4" plywood, as well as a 5 foot roll of 6' grey outdoor carpet from Lowe's. I also bought a pedestal seat mount from Walmart. I'm going to build two small platforms for casting decks as well as removing the fold down plasic seats from the brackets they are attached to and mounting them on the pedestals so one has room to rotate 360 degrees if need be. I think this would make the boat night and day better to fish out of.
fishing_junkie reply :
Can anyone confirm that this seat will work?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000AXXAN/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=F28A9MN6M6LJ&coliid=I10VBSYZ7EUYPT&psc=1
bassinOUT89 reply :
Yes, all you do is unscrew the plastic seat and install that one.
fishing_junkie reply :
On 4/9/2015 at 8:38 AM, bassinOUT89 said:Yes, all you do is unscrew the plastic seat and install that one.
Great - thanks! I ordered a camo one
Jtholder23 reply :
Been out 7 times since I bought the pelican 10e. I paid more for a power pole micro anchor than I did the boat and I strongly recommend to anyone. I cannot imagine fishing without it. My friends kinda laugh when they see it but they see me out on the main lake when wind is blowing 28mph and I'm sitting perfectly still or when I'm trying to boat a fish I can just press the button and not worry about becoming blown on the shore or on top of stumps. No way associated with power pole and do not receive money or discounts from them. Just grateful for mine.
tfultz reply :
. Got any pics? Was looking at a talon for mine but, after seeing the actual size and weight, would of been a bit much!On 4/10/2015 at 12:35 AM, Jtholder23 said:Been out 7 times since I bought the pelican 10e. I paid more for a power pole micro anchor than I did the boat and I strongly recommend to anyone. I cannot imagine fishing without it. My friends kinda laugh when they see it but they see me out on the main lake when wind is blowing 28mph and I'm sitting perfectly still or when I'm trying to boat a fish I can just press the button and not worry about becoming blown on the shore or on top of stumps. No way associated with power pole and do not receive money or discounts from them. Just grateful for mine.
Jtholder23 reply :
Yeah I'm in town right now headed to the lake. I'll take some when I get there. I think the whole unit weighs 20lbs.
Bomber7 reply :
On 4/10/2015 at 1:38 AM, Jtholder23 said:Yeah I'm in town right now headed to the lake. I'll take some when I get there. I think the whole unit weighs 20lbs.
cool would like to see that set up too.
zachb34 reply :
The micro weighs I think seven pounds just the unit. The pole probably weighs 5 or so pounds. Its virtually no extra weight and locks down my 15 foot Jon boat with a big 4 stroke on the back. The nice part is I can order the clamp bracket and slap it onto my perch when I use that within less than a minute.
Jtholder23 reply :
I tried to post pictures of em but it says file is too big. They are extremely small and I have the clamp mount attached to mine. Literally takes 15 seconds to attach and slide the pole in.
hawgmaster reply :
Does anyone know what size drain plug will fit in the baby bass basshunter? When I got mine it didnt come with a plug.
tfultz reply :
Twins!
Darn reply :
Just purchased a beat up 9 foot older faded, sun cracked, cracked hull, I think it's a Pond Prowler floating turd. What I need is a seat bracket. The one I have is 26" across and fits in the grooves nice and snug. If anyone knows where I can get another for a good deal I would much appreciate it. The boat is kept on a private pond and I don't worry too much about what she looks like as long as she floats, I only paid $30 for her. I leave the boat at the pond so others can use it and enjoy the great bass fishing. So as you can tell I don't want to invest a lot of money on this one but would like another seat. Any ideas or information on where I could get one of these brackets? I have seen the ones at Bass Pro Shops for $39 plus $8 plus shipping. I don't wish to spend that much on this boat. Thanks, I have enjoyed the threads and photos on these boats. You guys have some ingenuity going.
Darn reply :
Hawgmaster: When I needed a plug for my floating turd, I measured across the ID of the plug opening and then went to my local boat supply shop and bought a 5/8" plug. They usually design these plugs for live wells and such. I removed the whole assembly and took it in to be sure. They showed me how to adjust it and it fit like a glove.
basshead1 reply :
So the time has come. I just picked up a Gheenoe and I have too many boats. My garage is getting crowded and the Bass Raider is being neglected so I will be finding a new home for her soon. She was a great first boat and I will miss her. If anyone is in SW Florida and interested hit me up because she will be going on craigslist after the weekend.
Reyn reply :
Has any one tried a Power-Pole Micro Anchor on their Bass Raider 10E?
Jtholder23 reply :
Yes. Single handedly most awesome thing you can put on there. There are days I wouldn't even be able to fish without it. Storm blew in. 32 mph winds. Solid as a rock.
Reyn reply :
Thanks J. T. Maybe you could post a photo of it on your Raider?
Jtholder23 reply :
I've tried. It tells me the photo is too big.
RHuff reply :
On 4/16/2015 at 10:58 PM, basshead1 said:So the time has come. I just picked up a Gheenoe and I have too many boats. My garage is getting crowded and the Bass Raider is being neglected so I will be finding a new home for her soon. She was a great first boat and I will miss her. If anyone is in SW Florida and interested hit me up because she will be going on craigslist after the weekend.
Is that the anchor you have on yours or a rudder on the transom?
basshead1 reply :
On 4/20/2015 at 10:19 PM, RHuff said:Is that the anchor you have on yours or a rudder on the transom?
It is the rudder. I have it on a hinge so it kicks up if it hits anything and for when I beach it.
Jtholder23 reply :
How do you make a picture small enough to post?
basshead1 reply :
On 4/20/2015 at 10:47 PM, Jtholder23 said:How do you make a picture small enough to post?
You can just upload the picture to facebook or photobucket then right click on the pic and then click copy image url. then in your post you click the little picture symbol to upload an image and paste the url.
JEROD22 reply :
I am going to buy a Sun dolphin sportsman 8footer. I am wanting to mount a 40lb trolling motor in the front adn then mount my transducer on the trolling motor. Are there any problems i might encounter with putting the motor up there? How about mounting the transducer on the trolling motor??
nimbus2065 reply :
I have an 8ft dolphin with a 55 on the front with no problems. I mounted my transducer on the bottom of my rudder on the rear and ran the wire on the top of the rub rail with some clips from Home Depot and it works like a champ with my motor up front was worried about banging up the transducer to much. I can post some pics tonight if you'd like.
Bomber7 reply :
On 4/21/2015 at 10:42 PM, JEROD22 said:I am going to buy a Sun dolphin sportsman 8footer. I am wanting to mount a 40lb trolling motor in the front adn then mount my transducer on the trolling motor. Are there any problems i might encounter with putting the motor up there? How about mounting the transducer on the trolling motor??
I have the same boat and have a 55lb mounted on the bow - since they didn't put a steal mounting plate on the bow like they did in the stern I took two small pieces of sheet metal and mounted them and then mount the TM to that. Works great - also have a bigfoot switch on the pilewood floor I put in - let's me control it but I still have to steer with my hand. Through out this thread I have posted pictures if you can sort through the pages and find them - if not hit me up on IM and I can share them - I have done lots of mods to my boat.
nimbus2065 reply :
On 4/21/2015 at 10:42 PM, JEROD22 said:I am going to buy a Sun dolphin sportsman 8footer. I am wanting to mount a 40lb trolling motor in the front adn then mount my transducer on the trolling motor. Are there any problems i might encounter with putting the motor up there? How about mounting the transducer on the trolling motor??
Here are some photos of some of what I've done with my Dolphin. Included a pic of the clips I used to run my transducer wire and my new tackle storage.
Bullfrog1 reply :
Proud to say that I am in the process of purchasing a used bass raider 10E it doesnt have seats but nonetheless it is a decently looking boat and im getting a 36lbs TM and a bass raider 10E for $250 anybody got any ideas for what I can use for seats right now
nimbus2065 reply :
I mounted a pedestal to plywood and bought a seat at walmart
nimbus2065 reply :
Here's a photo of my rig at the lake.
wasabi_VA reply :
Minnow,
Can you please post a close up picture of how you have attached these quick clips?
I tried to use something similar with double-sided sticky tape but it came off after a season or two. I think the composition of my BassBaby hull did not allow the tape to adhere very well. I am considering using a screw but prefer to avoid putting screws into it.
nimbus2065 reply :
The clips have a peel and stick back. You have to lightly heat the plastic where you stick it and they adhere nicely.
TBaker1964@yahoo.com reply :
I have the Bass Hunter - nearly exactly as the Pelican - had a small crack in the right rear corner. Sanded it down with 80 grit, patched it with marine epoxy then one coat of J.B.Weld, then sprayed with a couple coats of rubberized paint - good as new. It's great for smaller bodies of water, shoreline fishing on small / mid size lakes, I've caught hundreds and hundreds of fish off this rig - highly recommend as a back up watercraft. Fits perfectly in the back of my truck also. I have hauled it on my riding mower trailer once or twice, great little boat for those quick half-day outings, very enjoyable indeed.
Glad to see others using these.
alh3939 reply :
I doubt anyone has any information but I figure I can ask anyway:
Has anyone bought a 10E in the past year from Academy? If so do you know when they were on sale? I remember seeing the 8 go on sale last year late May and have seen posts of others talking about the 10E being on sale last year as well. I want to buy a new 10E but don't want to buy one and see it go on sale 2 days later and be out $100.00.
Also has anyone tried fishing with 3 people on the 10E? I have eyeballed the seat brackets and it seems big enough to fit 3 seats even if its not rated for 3 people. If so how uncomfortable was it? The three adults average 145lbs, so fairly small individuals.
Any and all information would be appreciated.
RSM789 reply :
I have a 10 ft. Pond Prowler & when my sister came from out of state with her daughters (ages 10 & 7), we fished 3 people out of it (total weight about 430 lbs). The adults were in the seats and a kid would sit in the middle on a tackle box. I didn't go to the problem of making a 3rd seat because it was a once a year type deal. A third full seat might be a little cramped, you may need to get creative with a bucket or something.
Crappie Hunter reply :
On 4/29/2015 at 6:08 AM, Crappie Hunter said:I've got a 10e that's still a work in progress. I'm in the Pocono Mountains in PA. I use this little rig and a Wilderness Series kayak for fishing the lakes and Delaware River.
I've got a 10e that's still a work in progress. I'm in the Pocono Mountains in PA. I use this little rig and a Wilderness Series kayak for fishing the lakes and Delaware River.On 4/29/2015 at 6:08 AM, Crappie Hunter said:I've got a 10e that's still a work in progress. I'm in the Pocono Mountains in PA. I use this little rig and a Wilderness Series kayak for fishing the lakes and Delaware River.
pointhunter75 reply :
Alh3939 i can't remember when the 10 went on sale but i do know that if you buy something at academy and it goes on sale within a certain time they'll refund the difference. You'll have to call and ask how long. They may even tell you when they'll go on sale.
alh3939 reply :
Ya I talked with a sales associate at Academy and he asked a manager who said they would refund if it was within a certain time frame. They were fairly non-committal in what that time frame was so it had me concerned.
pointhunter75 reply :
I ran into that issue when i bought mine and missed it by one day... I think it was 30 days but not sure.
alh3939 reply :
Pointthunter do you remember when you bought yours?
pointhunter75 reply :
It was last summer. I'll look at the receipt tomorrow.
Pond fisher reply :
I purchased my 10E last May for $429.00.
Ken
alh3939 reply :
Well looks like I am going to wait it out. $150.00 off is well worth the wait. Any idea if it was early or late May?
Thanks Ken.
Pond fisher reply :
May 5th.
Ken
alh3939 reply :
Hopefully this Sunday they toss it on sale.
Thanks again Ken.
nimbus2065 reply :
For everyone asking about shallow water anchor system I found this video on youtube and thought it was awesome and something all of us can use that can't afford a micro.
Watch "DIY Stake Out Pole" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/tTPvz1d24RA
Shines Mullet Shak reply :
With the boats being larger and no holes in bottom where do you put pole to keep boat in position without spinning?
nimbus2065 reply :
I had the same question. From what I have seen on some other forums and the little I can find on Google it appears that you can either tie a short rope to it and or I have also seen the pole inserted into a piece of pvc that is attached to the boat. I read an article last night that suggested the pvc mount is the way to go that just tethering to it pulls the pole out of the ground. I'm building one this week and will be taking it out on the lake for the weekend. Will have more info this weekend.
Shines Mullet Shak reply :
Just got a Pelican 10 even though been a member for awhile. I've got a couple of questions.
1. What gauge wire did you guys use who wired boat to put battery in back and motor in the front? I'm thinking it will need to be 8.
2. For those who installed drain for rain water can you tell how you did it. The boat I have is a older model I believe because in the floor in the back there is a little cupped area where the water puddles to if not much water.
pointhunter75 reply :
Mine came prewired but it's either 8 or 10 ga. I had to change the plug on my new minn kota because it was the same as the boat comes with. I added a drain plug to the back, they all have the recess because they used to come with one. Don't know why they stopped.... Probably to save a dollar or two. I bought a drain that has the hose nipple on the end and just cut that off. The floor is very thin between the top and bottom layer. Maybe half to 3/4" gap. Drilled a 3/4" hole with a hole saw bit. I'd go with a larger drain if i did it again. Think mine has a 3/8" drain hole. Make sure to use marine adhesive 5200!!!!!!!! Not silicone. It's available at academy and probably wal mart. I drilled my hole, put the fitting through, put the nut on bottom side and screwed it tight then cut off the end flush with the nut, using a hack saw, remove, add some 5200 to top and bottom then stick the fitting back though and snug the nut back on. Not too tight as to push all the adhesive out between the fitting lip, nut and floor. Remember to allow room for the lip of the fitting when you drill the hole. It's very simple. I'm gonna add one to the front eventually. I sit in the front so the water runs up there.... Pretty sure it sits high enough to drain while in the water. My brother also added one to his. No problems for either of us. Academy sells the brass plugs, they're adjustable but get the one that will fit the size drain you get. One more thing, do not buy the fitting with the push on nut thing. I tried two and couldn't get the sleeve thing to go all the way on to save my life!!! Plus they're not removable, the nut ones are. In case it's ever necessary.
pointhunter75 reply :
Make sure you use a breaker. I use the minn kota battery box with built in breaker. It's so worth the money!!!!!!! Highly recommend it.
pointhunter75 reply :
Minn Kota Trolling Motor Power Center
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Minn-Kota-Trolling-Motor-Power-Center/20511018
pointhunter75 reply :
This is what we used, but a different size. It's the only thing i could find that uses a nut.
http://www.iboats.com/Thru-Hull-Connector-3-4-White-1-1-4-Hull-Cd-Attwood/dm/view_id.163179?cm_mmc=Google_Main-_-Mall+Product+Listings%3AGoogle-_-+%3AMall+Product+Listings%3AGoogle-_-Attwood&mkwid=GyCR7taZ&pcrid=41829038899&pdv=m&gclid=CjwKEAjw1KGqBRC55bru-sa7zCcSJAAxsBf5ls3OhGlQEBJ8fyweDO9pxTCdIFFBwRqpJ6CYD33rNxoCNd3w_wcB
Shines Mullet Shak reply :
Thank you sir!
pointhunter75 reply :
Very welcome!
chasenfish reply :
I just purchased a Pelican Bass Raider 10E. Could I please get opinions on a trolling motor. I am torn between a Minn Kota 30 lb thrust 30 inch shaft and a 40 lb thrust 36 inch shaft. I like the idea of a shorter 30 inch shaft but I do not want to under power the boat. Also I am not sure to go with a 27 or 29 series Deep Cycle Battery. I like the idea of the 29 series but it is about 8 lbs heavier....is this negligible for the extended runtime?
Thanks,
Mark.
Fishes in trees reply :
The trolling motor rule applies to pond boats, same as all other boats. Basically, get the biggest trolling motor you can afford. BPS catalog has a Prowler model - 55 lbs thrust for $200. Spend another hundred and get a 55 lb thrust that has variable speed control. Get the biggest battery you can afford. Getting two deep cycle batteries and wiring them parallel gives you more run time. That is what I did when I had a pond boat. I fished on smaller 100 to 200 acre conservation lakes. The extra battery gave me confidence that I could go to the other end of the lake - fish most of the day and still have battery power to get back to the ramp. Don't kid yourself and tell yourself that you will upgrade later. Spend the money now, while the boat is new. . . . Don't forget the charger - get a good reliable charger and recharge the batteries ASAP after each use.
On your pond boat, the difference between different shaft lengths is negligible. Whatever length you get, you'll get used to pretty quick. That's my thoughts on the matter, anyway.
pointhunter75 reply :
Get the minn kota endura maxx!!!!! The digital control lasts like 3-4 times longer than an analog tm. I have the 45lb and it's great. Also use 29 battery. I fish all day going up stream in a small river and have never been below 3/4 charge at the end of the day.
pointhunter75 reply :
I expected to have to cut the shaft on my 36" and glad i didn't. Highly recommend buying a 8" pedestal to raise the seat too! So much more comfy not having your knees bent and legs crammed up.
nimbus2065 reply :
I second the endura max I have a 55 on my sun dolphin and it lasts all day I'm a big boy so is take a lot to move me. I went with the 42" shaft makes it a tone easier to manuver sitting and standing.
livemusic reply :
Have people modified these Pelican (or other brand) boats to be one-man boats? I would like to know what people have done, pics would be awesome.
What is the best price for Pelican Bass Raider, and has it gone on sale?
nimbus2065 reply :
That's my one man setup
pointhunter75 reply :
Nimbus have you at a pedestal? I agree with the 42" wish I'd gone with it. I have to bend a good bit when standing.
pointhunter75 reply :
My pic is too big to post....
nimbus2065 reply :
Point hunter yes I used a pedestal I had lying around and bolted to some marine grade project boardfrom homedepot the with was perfect for in laying. my floor is in 3 sections the front and middle I can move so I can swap the seat position if I have a 2nd person with me
Shines Mullet Shak reply :
What type and size anchors do you guys use?
wasabi_VA reply :
coffee can filled with concrete. 10 lbs?
chasenfish reply :
Just got my new Bass Raider 10E Trailer built from Harbor freight, very Handy because it tilts, should make launching from banks a lot easier. Got the ideas from posts on this forum. Thnx
livemusic reply :
chasenfish, nice rig there. What's under the carpet?
Can you unload your boat by backing that trailer into the water like a boat trailer, is there a way to "waterproof" the hubs or whatever?
nimbus2065 reply :
I have a flat trailer no tilt any advice for getting the boat back on the trailer on steep ramps
lilsweepr reply :
I use a converted double Sea-Doo trailer. I use a rope attached to a front handle to pull the boat onto the trailer and then tie it off to the trailer till I get to the "make ready for travel" area. I have some pics of it earlier in this thread. I have friend who uses a flat bed trailer and he basically does the same thing.
nimbus2065 reply :
Cool thanks for the reply I will try that this things a bear decked out and I'm not getting younger lol
pointhunter75 reply :
Be careful backing them in the water. I've been doing it this spring, checked other day and one side had water in it, the other didn't. Chasenfish, be careful with the two tie brackets on the back. I left those off to avoid the risk of gouging in my boat.
chasenfish reply :
pointhunter75,
Thanks for the heads up about the brackets on the back of the boat....I didn't even think of that. One quick question, what were you talking about when you said one side had water in it?
chasenfish reply :
To answer earlier questions the deck is a 4 x 8 sheet of 3/8" marine plywood, I cleaned the grease out of the hubs and packed them with marine grease. I have only used it once, I backed it down the bank into a pond like a regular boat trailer, seemed to work ok.
pointhunter75 reply :
I meant the hubs, one side, the Cap fits really tight, the other one doesn't and that's the side that had water in the bearings. Thought about putting a big oring around the cap lip to see if that would seal it. It's so much easier when backing it in the water. Btw bearing buddies won't work with the stock metric hubs. You have to change the hubs out with standard 1" hubs.
JT Hickman reply :
LOL, I just spent like 2 hours reading this whole thread.
I picked up this bad boy on Craigslist and started hunting around to see what other mods people have done.
Been fishing out of a yak the last couple of years, but my back just couldn't take it anymore.
BTW, this thread is friggin epic!
nimbus2065 reply :
Nice rig JT is that an 8'
livemusic reply :
What is the longest of these type boats and whatever it is, is it still in production? I think I have seen one 11.3' long.
JT Hickman reply :
Mine is actually a 9 foot. Think they only do 8 and 10 now.
livemusic reply :
I forgot that I had seen this one -- http://www.basspro.com/Sun-Dolphin-Pro-120-Fishing-Boat/product/1312111129/?cm_sp=Display2014retar_DIS-- that looks awesome.
pointhunter75 reply :
Several companies make the 12' boats like dink linked to, they're a little more like a v bottom boat. Still pretty cool. Pelican makes the predator.
nimbus2065 reply :
Has anyone installed a drain plug in the rear of there hull? Real pain taking all my mods off so I can tip it on end.
pointhunter75 reply :
Nimbus, a page or two back i talk about the drain plug.
nimbus2065 reply :
Pointhunter the drain you installed is in the floor? How to you empty between hull water? I have a small rubber plug above my Bow rub rail. I want to install a thru hull in the bottom of one of my pontoons.
pointhunter75 reply :
Oh sorry, yeah mine is to drain water out of the floor, not the pontoons. There are already drains in the front of the pontoons in the pelican.
nimbus2065 reply :
Yeah I have a Sportsman. I found these plugs for kayaks I think will work with some 5200 and a few screws
nimbus2065 reply :
Yeah I have a Sportsman. I found these plugs for kayaks I think will work with some 5200 and a few screws
pointhunter75 reply :
Oh ok, yeah that should work!
wnspain reply :
On 5/16/2015 at 7:42 AM, livemusic said:I forgot that I had seen this one -- http://www.basspro.com/Sun-Dolphin-Pro-120-Fishing-Boat/product/1312111129/?cm_sp=Display2014retar_DIS-- that looks awesome.
I have the Pelican 10e and enjoy it very much but there's no way in hell I would lay down 2 G's for the Predator. $1000 I would seriously consider...
livemusic reply :
What's the Predator?
pointhunter75 reply :
This
nimbus2065 reply :
Just installed these drain plugs tired of stripping my boat to drain, What do you guys think?
pointhunter75 reply :
Looks good. Wonder how it gets into your pontoons.
nimbus2065 reply :
Comes in from the seams I'm thinking. May also be getting thru some of my add on I screwed in gonna resilicon everything and hope I don't need to use them to often. I've also had the boat for 2 years and never drained it so maybe some got in from snow over the winter.
cdemarse reply :
Just found this thread and read all pages.... Took a while lol.
I have a original bass hunter. My parents got it for me in 1998 for a graduation/eagle scout rank gift. I love this boat. Stored outside since 98 in crappy IL winter and have not had a single issue with it.
I have seen a few times people asking about the motorguide Bulldog trolling motor. I bought one the week they were released and absolutely love it. It is a transom mount but I ran it on bow for a long time without issues. Then I found info online about how to mod it for bow mount and it works even better. Great little tm for these pond hoppers.
wasabi_VA reply :
I have the Bulldog too and also love it. MIne came configured for bow mount and with foot pedal. I thought they all came that way.
cdemarse reply :
On 5/25/2015 at 10:54 AM, wasabi_VA said:I have the Bulldog too and also love it. MIne came configured for bow mount and with foot pedal. I thought they all came that way.
Its actually set up for transom mount from the factory. I used it a long time on the bow without changing it.
Designed to be used on the transom and then the foot pedal goes in front of you. That's why if you read the reviews people complain the pedal cable isn't long enough.
If you pull the cover off and adjust it you get a little better control out of it. Not hard at all. Takes about 10 or 15 minutes.
livemusic reply :
I sometimes fish out of a jon boat and the wind spins/pushes these boats around really bad. How do these pontoon type rigs fare in the wind, better or worse?
zachb34 reply :
Depends on your jon boat. I have a flat bottom 1542 jon boat and one of these mini pontoon boats as well. The pontoon boat is so small that the resistance from my crank bait can steer the boat slowly. Tough winds and the boat really gets moving. My jon boat is not like that at all, but I don't know how yours handles.On 5/26/2015 at 12:23 AM, livemusic said:I sometimes fish out of a jon boat and the wind spins/pushes these boats around really bad. How do these pontoon type rigs fare in the wind, better or worse?
zachb34 reply :
If anything a drift sock should help that issue out for you
wasabi_VA reply :
On 5/26/2015 at 12:23 AM, livemusic said:I sometimes fish out of a jon boat and the wind spins/pushes these boats around really bad. How do these pontoon type rigs fare in the wind, better or worse?
The cross-section of boat is smaller with my BassBaby than with my prior full-size boats, and I feel like the wind is less of an issue. It also helps tremendously that I use a bow mount trolling motor with a foot control as I can easily (and continually if needed) make adjustments to compensate for the wind blowing. After awhile I don't even notice it as the adjustments are automatic.
Tommy X reply :
Just bought myself a brand new Raider 10E I paired it with a Minn Kota DuraMax 45. I had it out once so far, I thought it was kind of "tippy" with 2 people. I bought a 7" pedestal to raise the seat (I'm 6'3") 7" was too much as I was on my tip toes, this could have added to that tippy feeling. I'm having a 4" riser custom made. I'll be taking it out alone this weekend weather permitting.
livemusic reply :
Can anyone tell me how much room is in the "cockpit" of the Pelican Bass Raider 10e? Length for sure, width would be nice to know.
Also, does anyone know if Academy puts these on sale and if so, when? I can buy one there for $550, which is a good price, Dick's sells it for $700, but a sale never hurts!
Tommy X reply :
I just put in a floor and carpet. Inside dimensions are 103"X 26". I bought mine at Dick's on sale for $599 plus another 10% off for applying for a Dick's credit card. Not bad.
Reyn reply :
Tommy X, I have the same exact setup as you, same boat and trolling motor. I don't understand why you're having problems with with a 7" riser. I have a 7" riser on an upgraded fully padded seat and I'm 2" shorter than you. I have no problem reaching the bare floor of my 10E. I'm not saying that your seat is not to high for you, after all you should know, I just can't figure out why.
pointhunter75 reply :
I don't understand that either. 7inch riser here, 6'2" and I'm flat footed and knees still up a little. You have a super thick padded seat or something?
Tommy X reply :
IDK, it's definitely too high for me I'm all torso I guess. If I sit up against the backrest the seat digs into my thighs. With the 4" I should be flat footed on the floor, knees up slightly. It will be much more comfortable
pointhunter75 reply :
Yeah that should fix it.
heysarge reply :
Hello all...great thread (read a lot of it the last couple of days). You guys are an impressive bunch! Anyway, I plan on buying a Pelican Bass Raider 10E from Academy sports for my wife this week. She has medical issues and can't move around that much while fishing and I have not noticed that anyone has put a bow mounted foot controlled trolling motor on their Pelican Bass Raider. Thoughts?
pointhunter75 reply :
I thought there were some foot controlled ones on here
WRIFRAF reply :
You guys ever seen one of these Pelicans taken apart? I have... MINE!!!
I don't have a 10E and I was tired of not being able to night fish without lights, so I install some. As well as other things.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/gallery/image/12817-20150425-162720/
wnspain reply :
Interesting! I thought the whole cavity would be filled with foam. What other things did you add?? I appreciate the insight as to the innards of the Pelican. I suppose that there is some wood/high density plastic to reinforce the transom/bow mounts but the pictures don't show it. You do realize that Attwood makes battery operated navigation lights in both standard and LED models, right? 
They come with both bow and transom mounts and take all of about 30 seconds to put them on when needed. Thanks for the pics, you generated some ideas for mine...
pointhunter75 reply :
I've read that there is wood in the motor mounting areas
livemusic reply :
In my newspaper, I see that Academy has the 10e on sale for $500 instead of the regular $550. Wondering... do they put these on sale at a lower price or is this a typical price? Thinking that for Father's Day, some store might have a good sale on these. Or wait for fall.... wonder if they have better prices after the summer fishing season.
Bozz reply :
Yup...got Academy's new weekly mail ad today and the 10E Raider is on sale for 499.99 thru June 13th.
Makes me want a fleet of em but one'll do me, i reckon.
Shines Mullet Shak reply :
Anyone who has the motorguide bulldog would you give me the dimensions of the mount. Considering one but concerned about taking all the room on the front mount.
cdemarse reply :
On 6/8/2015 at 9:21 AM, Shines Mullet Shak said:Anyone who has the motorguide bulldog would you give me the dimensions of the mount. Considering one but concerned about taking all the room on the front mount.
It's 4" wide.
cdemarse reply :
Well. I have been wanting to get a portable finder for my bass hunter for a while and cabelas finally had a sale on the Lowrance Elite 3x all season. Got it mounted and fished with it yesterday. Nice finder and a great little package.
I just removed the swivel mount from the portable case and screwed it down to the flat spot in the front of the boat. Holds very very well. Mounted transducer on trolling motor. and just set battery by finder. Wont use the portable bag set up till ice fishing. All in all its a great little set up. Was out 6 hours and barely put a dent in the battery
.http://www.cabelas.com/product/Lowrancereg-Elite-3x-Portable-Sonar/1884296.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dlowrance%2Belite%2B3x%2Bportable%26x%3D10%26y%3D6%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=lowrance+elite+3x+portable
Ratherbfishing reply :
I'm pretty sure I'm preaching to the choir and i think the number of threads supports my contention but why, why, WHY doesn't the Bass Raider have more "hard points" for securing such things as cleats, fish finders and/or transducers, anchor mounts, etc?!!!! If it did, I think Pelican could really slay the aftermarket accessories market. I can think of at least a dozen things which could really optimize this boat. The Bass Raider is a pretty good product overall but it could be even better!
Reyn reply :
You should send your message to Pellican. Maybe they'll take the hint. I have a 10E too and wonder what they were thinking when they built the mold for the top half of the boat.Nothing makes sense!
pointhunter75 reply :
Only thing that really bothers me is how some of the holes on the side drain out of the boat and the other part drains into the floor!!!!!
Tommy X reply :
I need to get a cover for my BR. I saw a couple on amazon and Bass Pro. They seemed like they were all the same covers. All in the $40 to $50 range. Are these things any good? Alternatives?
I"m sick of asking the wife to come out and help me flip it over everytime its about to rain,
Another thing, about Installing a drain plug in the rear. I'm not crazy about drilling into this thing but it really needs it. Anyone try this?
@pointhunter Yeah, when I got mine home and followed the drainage routes on the top half, I was like, HUH? I don't understand? half of them go back into the boat!
nimbus2065 reply :
On 6/11/2015 at 10:26 PM, Tommy X said:I need to get a cover for my BR. I saw a couple on amazon and Bass Pro. They seemed like they were all the same covers. All in the $40 to $50 range. Are these things any good? Alternatives?
I"m sick of asking the wife to come out and help me flip it over everytime its about to rain,
Another thing, about Installing a drain plug in the rear. I'm not crazy about drilling into this thing but it really needs it. Anyone try this?
@pointhunter Yeah, when I got mine home and followed the drainage routes on the top half, I was like, HUH? I don't understand? half of them go back into the boat!
I used kayak drain plugs got them at Walmart for 3.50 a piece. Used 5200 to seal them they work perfect. Inside I have a small electric bilge wired up on a switch bone dry in 2 minutes
lilsweepr reply :
On 6/11/2015 at 10:26 PM, Tommy X said:I need to get a cover for my BR. I saw a couple on amazon and Bass Pro. They seemed like they were all the same covers. All in the $40 to $50 range. Are these things any good? Alternatives?
I"m sick of asking the wife to come out and help me flip it over everytime its about to rain,
Another thing, about Installing a drain plug in the rear. I'm not crazy about drilling into this thing but it really needs it. Anyone try this?
@pointhunter Yeah, when I got mine home and followed the drainage routes on the top half, I was like, HUH? I don't understand? half of them go back into the boat!
I got the one from Bass Pro Shops and I really like it.
http://www.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shops-Pond-Boat-Cover/product/1411061227/
It fits nice and snug. The only place it has a way for any kind of animal to get underneath is where the front transom mount curves in(one of our cats showed that to me). When water has gotten on it it has just puddled till I lift it up and drain it off. It doesn't leak thru at all, at least not yet anyways and it has had a lot of water on it. Even with the seats holding it up there is still enough slack in the middle for the rain to puddle in but I am looking to find maybe some fiberglass 1" strips to make a bow from seat rail to rail to hold up the middle. It is like tent material.
I picked it up in person and the funny thing is it doesn't specify the Bass Raider BUT the picture on the box is just that, the Bass Raider 10' model. I thought that was kind of funny as seeing they don't even sell that model.
Tommy X reply :
Thanks for the replies, can't wait to get out this weekend.
pointhunter75 reply :
I did a write up on the drain plugs a few pages back tommy. It's a must and there is absolutely no reason not to do it. I'll post a pic later.
Shines Mullet Shak reply :
Any tips on putting registration decals on boat and it not peel off.
nimbus2065 reply :
heating the plastic before adhering the decal helps them stick betterOn 6/13/2015 at 8:16 PM, Shines Mullet Shak said:Any tips on putting registration decals on boat and it not peel off.
cdemarse reply :
On 6/13/2015 at 8:16 PM, Shines Mullet Shak said:Any tips on putting registration decals on boat and it not peel off.
I just use rubbing alcohol and never had a problem with them sticking.
pointhunter75 reply :
My brother had to replace a sticker and the girl at the courthouse told him they recommend distilled vinegar over alcohol. Maybe Google it. I used it last time and no problems
tfultz reply :
Trailer I'm building for a customer. Was a jet ski trailer, now its a bass raider trailer! Carpet, lights, wash and pack the bearings and some new wheels! Should be ready to go soon!
nimbus2065 reply :
Why do you carpet the trailer boards?
Shines Mullet Shak reply :
Tfultz I like that. I have a jet ski trailer and had trouble loading it back on as Im not to strong in my older years. I really like your design. Did you weld the front cross stringer?
tfultz reply :
On 6/16/2015 at 7:23 AM, Shines Mullet Shak said:Tfultz I like that. I have a jet ski trailer and had trouble loading it back on as Im not to strong in my older years. I really like your design. Did you weld the front cross stringer?
This is the third one I've built, I've found out that bolting it on works best. Welding it makes the trailer to ridged if that makes since. Welds tend to break and some people say welding weakens the tung. Im not a professional welder so..the design seems to work really well!
Shines Mullet Shak reply :
What is that front from?
tfultz reply :
On 6/16/2015 at 10:25 AM, Shines Mullet Shak said:What is that front from?
It made it. Its a piece of 3" channel 1/8 thick. The side pieces are 2" channel 1/8 thick. Got it at the local steel place in town. Welded it up. I still need to paint the trailer tho.
Ratherbfishing reply :
I would like to try to glue or epoxy a cleat or two on my bass raider. Any suggestions about type or method?
Pond fisher reply :
I don't think an adhesive will hold due to the temperatures and the expansion and contraction. I would use a rivnut.
Ken
Ratherbfishing reply :
On 6/19/2015 at 9:44 AM, Pond fisher said:I don't think an adhesive will hold due to the temperatures and the expansion and contraction. I would use a rivnut.
Ken
I'll look into this. Thanks!
Tommy X reply :
I put
Cleats on the plywood floor and carpet I installed. With the weight of the battery on top of the floor, the anchor never came close to pulling out the floor. Working so far.
wnspain reply :
My Father's Day present from my wonderful wife, a MotorGuide Bulldog TM, 54lbs. thrust, foot controlled. No more tiller for me!!!
cdemarse reply :
On 6/22/2015 at 10:13 PM, wnspain said:
My Father's Day present from my wonderful wife, a MotorGuide Bulldog TM, 54lbs. thrust, foot controlled. No more tiller for me!!!
I have had the 40lb version since the week it came out. Love it.
It will work on the bow but you dont have as much turning in one direction unless you pop the cover off the top and adjust it for the bow and it works even better. Not hard to do at all.
Wetahook2 reply :
Just purchased a Bass Raider 10e at Academy last week and ordered a Minn Kota endure max 55b trolling motor to pair with it. 3 questions:
1. Any suggestions on good padded seats to replace the non-padded ones... AND...
2. Suggestions on a NOT so HEAVY deep cycle battery (would like to keep it under 30lbs). Getting too old to be lugging around 55 lb battery...AND
3. I will be hauling the boat in the back of my pickup.. Any suggestions on a dolly.. I saw some Kayak dollies at Cabelas online that might work. Just need one for the times I'm fishing alone..
Thanks and I'm jazzed about getting out there and wetting a hook in the new boat.
Pond fisher reply :
You can purchase padded seats very similar to the ones included with the boat @ Academy. Not familiar with a battery under 30 lbs. I purchased a 24 series at Autozone and it's about 42 lbs, Best battery I've ever owned. Fish 4 - 5 hours and only use about 25% of charge.
wnspain reply :
On 6/23/2015 at 6:55 AM, Wetahook2 said:Just purchased a Bass Raider 10e at Academy last week and ordered a Minn Kota endure max 55b trolling motor to pair with it. 3 questions:
1. Any suggestions on good padded seats to replace the non-padded ones... AND...
2. Suggestions on a NOT so HEAVY deep cycle battery (would like to keep it under 30lbs). Getting too old to be lugging around 55 lb battery...AND
3. I will be hauling the boat in the back of my pickup.. Any suggestions on a dolly.. I saw some Kayak dollies at Cabelas online that might work. Just need one for the times I'm fishing alone..
Thanks and I'm jazzed about getting out there and wetting a hook in the new boat.
1. I've tried the padded version of the stock seat sold at Academy, leaves a little to be desired IMO. Personally, I'd go with a quality boat seat...your choice of features and price.
2. Not familiar with a "NOT so HEAVY" deep cycle battery. One thing you can try is not lifting it any higher than required. Several ways to accomplish this...not familiar with your setup.
3. Can't help you there as I lift mine in n out, slide into water.
Congrats on the new purchase, lots of great info in this thread, let us know how your maiden voyage goes 
Wetahook2 reply :
Thanks for the info on the seat. Thought upgrading to a regular high back boat seat would be better but a little more $$s. I'll go that route...
wnspain reply :
On 6/24/2015 at 3:14 AM, Wetahook2 said:Thanks for the info on the seat. Thought upgrading to a regular high back boat seat would be better but a little more $$s. I'll go that route...
Just a quick note on the seat, proper (comfortable) height is of paramount consideration. You'll arrive at the right height for you pretty quickly.
fishcat reply :
There is a smaller, powerful trolling motor battery available: the AGM from Cabelas. I use the size 22 version, which weighs about 35 pounds. I have never had it run down during a day of fishing with a MK Endura 40. Also available are the newer Lithiun Ion batteries, but the cost is very high.
Wetahook2 reply :
Thanks for the info on the seats and battery. I was considering the Cabelas agm 22 since it is on sale. I'll give it a shot.
Agreed on the height issue. Just need to mount one on the rail and check it. Good advice. Thanks
fishing_junkie reply :
The seat upgrade makes a HUGE difference for a day on the water, even for me who stands and fly fishes most of the time.
This is the seat I got.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AXISY6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I also added fly rod holders and a paddle holders this year. Also got it registered
Wetahook2 reply :
Thanks for the info on the seat. You have a nice rig. Is that the paddle holder on the left side (facing the camera) mounted on the outside? Also, did you use YAK rod holders and paddle holders? Thanks!
fishing_junkie reply :
No problem & thanks!
I mounted the paddle holders on both sides actually. I usually have a paddle on one side, and a telescoping boat hook on the other. Yes, mounted on the outside. I used stainless steel screws with mariene grade silicone sealer. I saw the other posts about rivnuts...might try those if I feel the screws are getting loose. I might have gone that direction if I had known about them earlier. I got Scotty holders.
http://www.amazon.com/Shoreline-Marine-SL52237-Telescoping-Boat/dp/B004UOTQYS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_200_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0XQ8JGFVQ6MRDRJXAFQS
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001M4HT3Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0062BXBVG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00
I'm still debating an anchor system like this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001M4HTNY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=F28A9MN6M6LJ&coliid=I36U9NQWDTAPYB
Wetahook2 reply :
Thanks again for the info. Links to Amazon are very helpful for the Scotty products. I also like the anchor rig option, wish I had the $$s for a micro power pole setup.. But it cost as much as the boat.....
wnspain reply :
On 6/23/2015 at 1:57 AM, cdemarse said:I have had the 40lb version since the week it came out. Love it.
It will work on the bow but you dont have as much turning in one direction unless you pop the cover off the top and adjust it for the bow and it works even better. Not hard to do at all.
My foot pedal is dead horizontal when I attached my unit to bow. If I swung the mount around to make it work on transom, that's when I have directional restrictions. Strange 
cdemarse reply :
On 6/25/2015 at 3:48 AM, wnspain said:My foot pedal is dead horizontal when I attached my unit to bow. If I swung the mount around to make it work on transom, that's when I have directional restrictions. Strange
Ahh they may have changed it then. I bought mine first week they came out. I had limited movement for a hard left turn.
bubba man reply :
hey go on you tube and put on canoe caddy and you can get a real good idea i just made one out of pvc and wood and glue [plumers]
tfultz reply :
Gettin closer! Glad customer isnt in a hurry!
tfultz reply :
On 6/27/2015 at 4:08 AM, tfultz said:Gettin closer! Glad customer isnt in a hurry!
cdemarse reply :
On 6/27/2015 at 4:11 AM, tfultz said:
On 6/27/2015 at 4:08 AM, tfultz said:Gettin closer! Glad customer isnt in a hurry!
very nice
georgetown bassin reply :
Just finished up building my trailer and all the parts for my outboard support just need to weld the support together now
georgetown bassin reply :
And the pics are to big i will take some more tomorrow and post them
Wetahook2 reply :
Can anyone suggest the electrical connectors I would need to place the battery at the front of the 10e (using the plug) and modifications to the wiring at the trolling motor and the wiring at the back to mount the motor in the back of the boat. Thanks in advance for any advice. Ps. Using the Minn Kota battery box.
Also, would you advise placing the battery in the front with 1 angler or on the back? Thanks...
georgetown bassin reply :
here is the motor support I came up with just need to get it welded up.
georgetown bassin reply :
rod storage not pretty but it works.
georgetown bassin reply :
all loaded up and ready to go to the lake let me know what you guys think of my little setup.
nimbus2065 reply :
On 7/1/2015 at 10:36 AM, georgetown bassin said:1435715525745.jpg all loaded up and ready to go to the lake let me know what you guys think of my little setup.
That's pretty sweet. Is there storage under your casting deck?
Tommy X reply :
We had a huge thunderstorm the other day and despite have a good cover over the boat, it still got swamped. I got all the water out then noticed the hull has quit a bit of water in it. Is it a good idea to seal the edge that goes around the outside of the boat for the future? or does it need to breath?
Lifting that thing all the way up on one end while the water drains out the front kind of sucks.
nimbus2065 reply :
I put drain plugs in the rear of my hull so I don't have to tip it on end anymore. They work perfect.On 7/1/2015 at 11:56 PM, Tommy X said:We had a huge thunderstorm the other day and despite have a good cover over the boat, it still got swamped. I got all the water out then noticed the hull has quit a bit of water in it. Is it a good idea to seal the edge that goes around the outside of the boat for the future? or does it need to breath?
Lifting that thing all the way up on one end while the water drains out the front kind of sucks.
nimbus2065 reply :
Here's a pic of the plugs for you $3.50 at Walmart and some marine sealant
georgetown bassin reply :
Nibus2065 no the middle of the casting deck is cut out to fit my battery box i can fit my ancor and some small plano boxes under it but thats about it
nimbus2065 reply :
On 7/2/2015 at 1:43 AM, georgetown bassin said:Nibus2065 no the middle of the casting deck is cut out to fit my battery box i can fit my ancor and some small plano boxes under it but thats about it
It's a pretty sweet setup I have a 8ft so limited on space I came up with side tackle storage. How stable is it while up on the deck?
georgetown bassin reply :
On 7/2/2015 at 2:05 AM, nimbus2065 said:It's a pretty sweet setup I have a 8ft so limited on space I came up with side tackle storage. How stable is it while up on the deck?
Its not to bad never felt like i was going to go in the water at all when i first built the deck i had the battery in the back and didnt have the gas motor which was awsome but when i got my motor i had to move the battery to the front because if you put me a gas motor and a 31 series deep cyle in the back of an 8ft and it almost sinks while you are trying to start your motor you just have to even everything out then its super stable now
Tommy X reply :
On 7/2/2015 at 1:40 AM, nimbus2065 said:Here's a pic of the plugs for you $3.50 at Walmart and some marine sealant
Thanks, I'll go check them out and see if I think I can drill into this thing without destroying it
Tommy X reply :
On 7/1/2015 at 10:36 AM, georgetown bassin said:
Man, you have a lot of stuff in a small space.If it works for you, great.
I have the 10E and wont even take another person with me. I take no more then 3 rods, a small tackle box, a net, 8lb anchor and a cooler bag for water. I do plan on a fishfinder next. I wish I had some kind of strap down so the rods can ride on the rails. I don't trust myself to not knock them overboard.
fishcat reply :
I have a Pelican 8e. Many of my modifications were described in earlier postings. Regarding rod hold-downs, I tried a few things, but now use the little bungee and catch loop from TH Marine. I bought 3 on eBay -- 2 for the boat and one mounted on top of my pickup tailgate for when I drive to the pond without the boat. Because they are about 12" long, you need to mount them at a diagonal on each rail of the 8e. They work great, since the reels can rest down in the molded side rails and the strap keeps them from bouncing out. Just drill tiny holes, squirt some sealer on the screw and tighten down.
The board mounted above the rails with a Velcro strap look scary to me, as a rod could more easily go over when you loosen the strap.
nimbus2065 reply :
On 7/2/2015 at 11:55 PM, Tommy X said:Thanks, I'll go check them out and see if I think I can drill into this thing without destroying it
Was real easy to drill through I was worried at first also. I thought the plastic was a lot thicker than it is.
tfultz reply :
Finished! Just have to set the boat on it.
Tommy X reply :
On 7/3/2015 at 5:12 AM, tfultz said:Finished! Just have to set the boat on it.
Nice! I have to get a trailer next year. I'm not enjoying moving this thing around by myself.
atomicchicken reply :
I think I've almost read all the posts in the thread. Great collection by the way. How does the Bass Raider 10E handle with a 3.5 HP outboard? Does the transom hold up?
Right now I'm using a 50lb thrust Minn Kota trolling motor on my Bass Raider. I'm curious if a 3.5 HP outboard would decrease travel time when heading to fishing spots?
georgetown bassin reply :
On 7/7/2015 at 7:25 AM, atomicchicken said:I think I've almost read all the posts in the thread. Great collection by the way. How does the Bass Raider 10E handle with a 3.5 HP outboard? Does the transom hold up?
Right now I'm using a 50lb thrust Minn Kota trolling motor on my Bass Raider. I'm curious if a 3.5 HP outboard would decrease travel time when heading to fishing spots?
Not sure if the 10e has a stronger transom but the 2.5 hp i have on my 8ft flexed my transom bad enough i built the outboard support i posted eralier in the thread it did add a little bit of speed to the boat i can run maybe 4 mph wide open loaded down with all my junk
atomicchicken reply :
I have only had mine for a couple of months now but my 8 year old son and I are enjoying the heck of out of it. It's small enough to load up in the back of my truck and pull the camper while it's back there which is exactly what I was looking for.
DaveVE reply :
Hey guys, when you are using an outboard do you haul the boat with it on or do you just throw the motor in the boat and attach it when you get to the lake? I've seen a lot of you say that the transom flexes under a decent amount of throttle so I am assuming it would flex during travel if I had it attached.
I've wanted one of these boats since I was 16. Looking forward to learning all the in's and out's to loading it and using it. My other boats have been huge pain in the necks.
atomicchicken reply :
On 7/8/2015 at 10:57 PM, DaveVE said:Hey guys, when you are using an outboard do you haul the boat with it on or do you just throw the motor in the boat and attach it when you get to the lake? I've seen a lot of you say that the transom flexes under a decent amount of throttle so I am assuming it would flex during travel if I had it attached.
I've wanted one of these boats since I was 16. Looking forward to learning all the in's and out's to loading it and using it. My other boats have been huge pain in the necks.
I only have a trolling motor right now and even that I don't keep on the transom when the boat is traveling behind my truck. I see it as unnecessary stress. Can't say how much stress from it there is but even balanced on there I doubt it's actually good for it. When I get an outboard I'll do the same. I think the only way I would keep an outboard mounted would be if I transported the boat via trailer and had a support on the trailer for the outboard.
I'll sit back and see what those that actually have an outboard though do with theirs...
pointhunter75 reply :
I don't haul mine with the trolling motor or my Yamaha 2.5 HP 4 stroke attached. I wait until my harbor freight trailer is backed close to the edge of the water and clamp them on.
DaveVE reply :
Thanks, guys. I look forward to testing it out this weekend. When unloading from the bed of a truck is it best just to back down a boat ramp as far as possible and then slide her out? I'm wondering if I can use a simple winch/ratcheting system to load it back into the truck the same way.
atomicchicken reply :
I'll back down the boat ramp until I'm about the boat lengths away from the water. I pull the boat out almost all the way and put the end down with the other end still resting on the tailgate. I'll then take that end and swing it off and out of the truck. Then I attach my trolling motor and put the battery in and then proceed to move the boat into the water. For that I just walk each end into the water. After unloading from the truck I'm at the waters edge so it's quick to get it floating.
I reverse the process to load it back into the truck. It's quick and easy enough for me. I like to keep things as simple as possible.
wnspain reply :
On 7/9/2015 at 10:57 PM, DaveVE said:Thanks, guys. I look forward to testing it out this weekend. When unloading from the bed of a truck is it best just to back down a boat ramp as far as possible and then slide her out? I'm wondering if I can use a simple winch/ratcheting system to load it back into the truck the same way.
I have no trailer, manhandle in and out of the bed of my truck. Not a real problem either way unless you get to launch/recover from ramp/bank that elevates the normal tailgate height significantly. I leave the TM attached because I mount my transducer on the TM. Still, unlike what others have stated, IMO very little stress on transom with proper positioning and a bungee to prevent excessive vertical movement of the TM shaft. Verified the amount of movement/transom flex with a bed mounted camera. There was no aft flex, and the forward flex was less than experienced under full power when in the water.
SFM186 reply :
hey all. just joined this forum because of this thread, tons of great info here!
i just picked up a used bass raider 10e for $100. it needs some lovin, but i'll get it back on the water soon. i'll try to post up before and after pics of the work i'm doing.
i bought this boat even though i have a 10ft flat bottom already, i've fished from them before and they're way more comfy compared to a row boat. i troll for salmon every weekend (using a much larger boat of course), but my 7 year old daughter doesn't really like that style of fishing. she gets bored with it pretty quickly. well she's been asking me to take her fishing lately so i wanted to get one of these, i think she'll like it much better than the old flat bottom. i know i will.
Lost-my-bait reply :
Been reading this thread for the last 4 days, so much great info.
I'm buying my BR 10e next week, so many mod ideas it's crazy.
I picked up my trolling motor this morning, got me the Minn Kota Endura C2 55. It was on sale 229.99 and I had a 10% off coupon, walked out for 224 bucks. Couldn't pass it up.
My immediate plans will be:
Replace seats.
Install carpeted wood floor.
Mount small outdoor umbrella base to the wood floor in center and carry an outdoor patio umbrella in the boat for those baking hot days.
If it works I will update here, if it doesn't then I'll pretend I never did it
Lost-my-bait reply :
To avoid drilling as many have done, is it not possible to use an adhesive like dura bond instead?
atomicchicken reply :
On 7/10/2015 at 6:38 AM, Lost-my-bait said:To avoid drilling as many have done, is it not possible to use an adhesive like dura bond instead?
I guess it depends how strong dura bond is and what it is you're asking it to hold. I don't see much of a problem putting holes into it as long as it's on the upper-half of the hull. Prolonged exposure of water to that half would mean your seam is under water which means those little screw holes aren't your biggest intake of water at that point!
I've added a paddle clip to mine on the inside of the boat and I'll be adding a couple of rod holders to it as soon as I get the chance. Use a sealant along with the screws into the holes and you should be fine.
pointhunter75 reply :
5200 marine sealant is the best to seal any holes with
Lost-my-bait reply :
Is it possible to pair 2 deep cycle batteries that are both seperatly enclosed in a minn kota trolling motor power center?
Or
Is it posible to pair 2 deep cycle batteries with 1 enclosed in the power center and the other external to it so the power center feeds off both batteries?
I am wanting to keep a spare battery in the boat for the just in case moments, might just place 1 in front and 1 in rear to split the weight.
My concern is that my motor is a minn kota 55lb and I get the impression it drains batteries faster than the 40's and 30's. True?
pointhunter75 reply :
You have to stay 12 volt so watch this. If you do it backwards you'll get 24 and your tm is a 12 volt so you don't want that.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqmm2JgsO48
Lost-my-bait reply :
Since the Bass Raider 10e comes prewired front to back, is that just for trolling motor to battery or do the wires come in handy for anything else such as fish finders?
Im clueless on fishfinders and transducers, mounting etc....
My guess from reading descriptions of different ones would be that I can mount the part that does the sonar stuff (is that the transducer?) directly to the rear mount trolling motor so it is deep enough as long as the motor is in the water...
Im looking for a good solution that does not require me to drill holes.
Also is there a reccomended fish finder thats not more than say 150ish? I was looking at hummingbird but I really know nothing about them... I do know that when I go fishing I almost always catch nothing more than a sunburn.
Thanks
tfultz reply :
Finished!
wnspain reply :
On 7/11/2015 at 3:07 AM, Lost-my-bait said:Is it possible to pair 2 deep cycle batteries that are both seperatly enclosed in a minn kota trolling motor power center?
Or
Is it posible to pair 2 deep cycle batteries with 1 enclosed in the power center and the other external to it so the power center feeds off both batteries?
I am wanting to keep a spare battery in the boat for the just in case moments, might just place 1 in front and 1 in rear to split the weight.
My concern is that my motor is a minn kota 55lb and I get the impression it drains batteries faster than the 40's and 30's. True?
yes, but if you wire them in parallel, both will feed the TM resulting in the same power for a longer duration, but no spare when the batteries go dead. (BTW - It is never recommended to take a battery to that point, causes severe longevity issues)
Weight dispersal up to you. You more than offset the weight of batteries and trolling motor (unless you are very small or the batteries/TM combo is extremely heavy).
True, more thrust, the higher the rate of power consumption.
Reyn reply :
Lost-My-Bait,
This is what I, and many others, have found to works best. Put your battery in the rear. Trolling motor in the front (purchase and splice on a plug that matches the female plug in the front to the trolling mother wires). A 45 pond thrust motor seems ideal. You will eventually want to put a clamp on DIY rudder on the back that you'll leave in a parallel position to cut down on the boat spinning around.
Your correct that the the transducer is the sonar pick up of the fishfinder. Most people purchase the clamp to put it on the trolling motor. By having the transducer in the front you will see what's under your boat as you move along. If you attach it in the rear ie. to the rudder, you will see what you've already past.
Reyn reply :
Lost-My-Bait,
If you decide to put the motor in the front, be shure to adjust the head of the motor to allow the prop to be facing to the rear and also allowing the control head to be facing towards you as well. I have a Minn-Kota and it describes how to to do this in the owner's manual.
Good Luck.
lilsweepr reply :
Lost-My-Bait,
To add to this, I have my minn kota 30lb on front, head turned as described and also have the plug mentioned above to utilize the built in wiring. I have the fuse for the trolling motor at the battery in the back. I have a fishfinder i put on a mounted piece of metal on the right rod holder and spliced the power into the plug in front. i put the inline fuse for the fishfiner on the wire going to the plug. I have not had any problem with the "main" fuse since adding the FF. I was afraid to just rely on the "main" fuse for the FF because it requires a lesser amp fuse. Spare fuses are kept in a prescription bottle(emptied) that I keep inside the battery case.
I made a rudder out of pvc and even made a fishing buddy one.
cdemarse reply :
If you have old trolling motor to use the bracket and shaft from this is a quick rudder that works great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301679249656?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
lilsweepr reply :
On 7/11/2015 at 5:41 AM, cdemarse said:If you have old trolling motor to use the bracket and shaft from this is a quick rudder that works great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301679249656?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I like that. I have been keeping my eye open for an old broken trolling motor but have been unlucky so far. I will try to remember this if I locate the trolling motor. I like the idea of being able to just raise the rudder if needed instead of removing it as we do now.
cdemarse reply :
On 7/11/2015 at 5:48 AM, lilsweepr said:I like that. I have been keeping my eye open for an old broken trolling motor but have been unlucky so far. I will try to remember this if I locate the trolling motor. I like the idea of being able to just raise the rudder if needed instead of removing it as we do now.
I even popped the bar out of the bracket. That way if I hit a stump it will lift up over it and drop back down. Its a pretty slick set up.
Reyn reply :
I purchased a Minn-Kotta trolling motor adjustable clamp, just like the one the comes with their trolling motors. I then cut a pvc pipe to desired length, slid it into the opening and attached a piece of plexiglass into a slot that I cut on the back side of the pipe. Drilled two holes and attached with screw bolts, lock washers and nuts.
pointhunter75 reply :
Here is my simple rudder/skeg, and I HIGHLY recommend a 7" riser for the seat. Academy is cheaper on the riser than wal mart.
atomicchicken reply :
On 7/11/2015 at 7:10 AM, pointhunter75 said:Here is my simple rudder/skeg, and I HIGHLY recommend a 7" riser for the seat. Academy is cheaper on the riser than wal mart.
Love the use of the clamp there.
pointhunter75 reply :
I have a Minn kota power center battery box with the built in breaker, one day my fuse holder melted, I think it got bent and lost connection and arced. Luckily my sister was with me and was able to hold it just right till we got to the ramp. If you have a separate breaker I'd recommend cutting the factory inline fuse out to avoid this risk. And always have an emergency paddle. I have the little telescopic one from wal mart.
pointhunter75 reply :
Thanks chicken, it's 1/2" cpvc so very flexible. I was going to rig a spring loaded hinge in the pipe but have used it this way most of last summer and all of this summer. I've scraped it on bottom so many times and no problems. It flexes plenty. I drew a line with a sharpie on the pipe and carefully cut the slot with a circular saw for the plexiglass, which I bought at Lowes, it's precut. 8x12" I think.
pointhunter75 reply :
Oh and that clamp already has the holes in it so I just had to drill through the pipe.
atomicchicken reply :
On 7/11/2015 at 7:23 AM, pointhunter75 said:I have a Minn kota power center battery box with the built in breaker, one day my fuse holder melted, I think it got bent and lost connection and arced. Luckily my sister was with me and was able to hold it just right till we got to the ramp. If you have a separate breaker I'd recommend cutting the factory inline fuse out to avoid this risk. And always have an emergency paddle. I have the little telescopic one from wal mart.
Which fuse holder melted? The one that is in line with the boats wiring or the one e. built into the battery box?
lilsweepr reply :
On 7/11/2015 at 6:04 AM, Reyn said:I purchased a Minn-Kotta trolling motor adjustable clamp, just like the one the comes with their trolling motors. I then cut a pvc pipe to desired length, slid it into the opening and attached a piece of plexiglass into a slot that I cut on the back side of the pipe. Drilled two holes and attached with screw bolts, lock washers and nuts.
I had thought about going this route also. I really did not think it would be this hard to find an old broken transom mount trolling motor but boy was i wrong. i am about ready to pull the trigger on the minn kota mount and do like cdemarse to make it "bounce" over objects.
Lost-my-bait reply :
For decoration purposes, does anyone know of a clear sealant that could be placed over stickers (much like the ones placed in vehicle windows - vinyl I think) that would keep them protected and embossed to the boat?
DaveVE reply :
Took the boat out for the first time last night with the wife. We had a blast. I love the simplicity of this thing and caught some nice bass that pulled me around lol. The hardest part was loading it back in my truck. I'm thinking that using a cart to wheel the boat up to the level parking lot would actually be easier than me trying to load it on a ramp. All the weight wants to work against me when I get the front of the boat up on my tailgate.
DaveVE reply :
Also, thanks Atomic for the step by step process. Funny thing is I got to gabbing with some other guys at the ramp and they all helped me unload the boat. This thing seems to peak everyone's interest.
Lost-my-bait reply :
Just got home from academy, could not be happier.
They had 1 bass raider 10e left (dark green) marked 549.00.
I asked if they had any sales or offers going on and the guy said this boat was on clearance because it was the old color, the new ones are the tan ones...
So I got my brand new BR10e for ... 279.00 !!!
I was floored to say the least -- happy happy happy.
Now to start the mods lol.
lilsweepr reply :
On 7/11/2015 at 3:37 AM, Lost-my-bait said:Since the Bass Raider 10e comes prewired front to back, is that just for trolling motor to battery or do the wires come in handy for anything else such as fish finders?
Im clueless on fishfinders and transducers, mounting etc....
My guess from reading descriptions of different ones would be that I can mount the part that does the sonar stuff (is that the transducer?) directly to the rear mount trolling motor so it is deep enough as long as the motor is in the water...
Im looking for a good solution that does not require me to drill holes.
Also is there a reccomended fish finder thats not more than say 150ish? I was looking at hummingbird but I really know nothing about them... I do know that when I go fishing I almost always catch nothing more than a sunburn.
Thanks
Here is a picture of what I commented on earlier.
Notice the spliced in wire to the trolling motor connection. My transducer is attached to the trolling motor. The extra wires, power and transducer cable, are still rolled up and stuffed into the rod holder behind the electronics. You can cut the power cable without harm but not the transducer cable. I chose to not cut anything in case i wanted to sell it later.
I do not travel with the electronics attached. I put them on at the ramp or side of pond and remove them before heading home.
pointhunter75 reply :
Chicken, yes it was the factory inline fuse holder that melted. I highly recommend the power center. It has a built in resettable breaker, two 12v cigarette lighter style plugs for phone charging, black light, spotlight, etc. Also has a built in battery gauge for people whose tm doesn't have a built in gauge.
lilsweepr reply :
Come to think of it, my factory inline fuse melted also. Luckily I was with another buddy who was in his raider and happen to have and piece of wire and i used that to limp back. My son had to make sure it stayed attached.
I replaced that inline fuse with a flat inline fuse and have had no problems. The original round one had a problem with the rubber insulator early on, it had gotten ripped so i had to make sure it was still ok every fishing trip. no problems out of the flat style i have gone to. The fuse for the FF is the flat style also. lot easier to change also and they are enclosed to try to make them waterproofed.
wnspain reply :
On 7/12/2015 at 10:19 AM, pointhunter75 said:Chicken, yes it was the factory inline fuse holder that melted. I highly recommend the power center. It has a built in resettable breaker, two 12v cigarette lighter style plugs for phone charging, black light, spotlight, etc. Also has a built in battery gauge for people whose tm doesn't have a built in gauge.
I second the comment on the Minn Kota TM Power Center. At first I thought $60 for a battery box? No thanks. Then I read some comments on the unit so decided to research further...glad I did.
Lost-my-bait reply :
Just got my floor put down. 1/2 inch treated plywood, covered it with green indoor / outdoor carpet.
On the back you can see I left a small open spot, this functions to allow my small water pu*m*p to get further down inside the boat to suck more up.
Also you can see an eyehole screw attached to the wood floor. This will allow me to bungie tie my rudder down so it will not bounce out (I am making a rudder from pvc and a retractable oar).
Speaking of rudders, how far below the boat bottom should it hang?
I have replaced the 1st seat with a high back padded chair, and the 2nd I am working on, same thing but with a 7 inch riser.
Some of you might want to consider this self adhesive safty tape for the motor mount to help limit slippage. It is basically the same stuff on top of skateboards, it feels like rough sandpaper but has a sticky back on it.
Also if you have a wood floor, consider placing many eyehole screws around the edge out of your way but around the boat. This will give you many places to hook or tie onto such as anchors, bungie ties ect.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_96657-1681-61302_0__?k_clickID=72a2e472-0489-4490-9b21-e75c3349894e&store_code=1727&productId=3185623&selectedLocalStoreBeanArray=[com.lowes.commerce.storelocator.beans.LocatorStoreBean%4026cc26cc]&storeNumber=1727&kpid=3185623&kpid=3185623&cm_mmc=SCE_PLA-_-ToolsAndHardware-_-DoorAndHomeHardware-_-3185623%3ASKID_GUARD&CAWELAID=&CAWELAID=1023523068
I have lots more to do but it will be time consuming I can already tell.
Lost-my-bait reply :
Just mounted a 9ft outdoor umbrella to the center of the boat. The base is a heavy castiron and strapped down with zip ties to 8 eyehole screws, It appears stable. I can stand up underneath it and still have plenty of head room. I doubt I would use it on a windy day, but for those calm scolding hot days... yeah baby.
atomicchicken reply :
I've had the power center since I purchased my bass raider.
DaveVE reply :
A lot of you have suggested the 7" riser pedestal for the seats. Does this make the boat more tippy?
Reyn reply :
No, I have the riser and when I'm sitting the boat feels very stable. Now when I'm standing, well at 6' 1" that's another story.
DaveVE reply :
Haha, yeah I'm 6'4 so I hear ya. I'm looking forward to using the riser to get my knees out of my face.
Reyn reply :
The riser will make that happen
SFM186 reply :
question.. just got my seat brackets in from academy sports. one of them is missing the black end cap on the footing. are these critical to keeping the bracket in the seat tracks? academy is telling me to contact pelican, just wondering if it's necessary.
atomicchicken reply :
On 7/15/2015 at 9:14 PM, SFM186 said:question.. just got my seat brackets in from academy sports. one of them is missing the black end cap on the footing. are these critical to keeping the bracket in the seat tracks? academy is telling me to contact pelican, just wondering if it's necessary.
Your weight really is what's going to keep them in the channels. That black cap more or less gives a finished edge to the tubing. You could contact them and see if they could mail one out to you or if the end of the tube is sharp wrap a couple of rounds of electrical tape on it.
SFM186 reply :
thanks ac. i emailed pelican and asked for a replacement, they're going to send one out for free. figured i'd rather have it than not.
pointhunter75 reply :
The riser is a must unless you're short. I'm 6'2" and have no problem standing unless it's very wavy. Depends on your balance I guess. I've lost a couple of the rubber end caps, no big deal. Wal mart sells an attwood battery box similar to the Minn kota but it doesn't have an internal breaker or battery meter but it's cheaper for those who are stingy or can't afford the Mk one.
BSFisher reply :
Just bought a new pelican bass raider 10E! Love the forum, tons of information. I was wondering if someone could clear up how the pre-wiring worked on the bass raider. If you look closely on the picture you can see the two wires. All I see is a black and red coming out from the side of the boat, how do I use this with my trolling motor?(still waiting on mine to come in)
It seems like it would be obvious, but I can't wrap my head around it.. Thanks in advance!
DaveVE reply :
I have a Scamp and not a Bass Raider but my pre-wired setup should be similar. You attach the two cables you mentioned to your battery and then I have two metal posts up front that I attach my trolling motor cable clamps to.
cdemarse reply :
On 7/16/2015 at 12:47 PM, BSFisher said:Just bought a new pelican bass raider 10E! Love the forum, tons of information. I was wondering if someone could clear up how the pre-wiring worked on the bass raider. If you look closely on the picture you can see the two wires. All I see is a black and red coming out from the side of the boat, how do I use this with my trolling motor?(still waiting on mine to come in)
It seems like it would be obvious, but I can't wrap my head around it.. Thanks in advance!
I'd buy a male and female plug. Put the male on the trolling motor wires and the female on the boat wires. Quick and easy.
Reyn reply :
BS,
The two wires attach to the battery posts. You then attach your trolling motor directly to the battery in the rear, or buy a male plug to match the built in female plug in the front and use that set up for the trolling motor to be up front (better option).
BSFisher reply :
Awesome, I will try it out soon. Thanks for the help!
cdemarse reply :
Here is a picture of the rudder I use if anyone is interested. Need to clean it up a little but the old trolling motor sat in a barn for 20 years. lol
bassinOUT89 reply :
where can I find this rudder?On 7/16/2015 at 11:33 PM, cdemarse said:Here is a picture of the rudder I use if anyone is interested. Need to clean it up a little but the old trolling motor sat in a barn for 20 years. lol
bassinOUT89 reply :
where can I find this rudder?On 7/16/2015 at 11:33 PM, cdemarse said:Here is a picture of the rudder I use if anyone is interested. Need to clean it up a little but the old trolling motor sat in a barn for 20 years. lol
cdemarse reply :
On 7/16/2015 at 11:38 PM, bassinOUT89 said:where can I find this rudder?
ebay. It's called the Bullnose Rudder. The people selling it on there are very nice. They are the owners I believe. Shipped same day I bought it. user ID was lorinjim It was right at $40 shipped but imo is worth it. Didnt have to buy parts to piece something together and its well built. Took me all of 60 seconds to install.
cdemarse reply :
Here you go
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301679249656?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
lilsweepr reply :
On 7/16/2015 at 12:47 PM, BSFisher said:Just bought a new pelican bass raider 10E! Love the forum, tons of information. I was wondering if someone could clear up how the pre-wiring worked on the bass raider. If you look closely on the picture you can see the two wires. All I see is a black and red coming out from the side of the boat, how do I use this with my trolling motor?(still waiting on mine to come in)
It seems like it would be obvious, but I can't wrap my head around it.. Thanks in advance!
I got a version of this from Bass Pro Shops:
bassinOUT89 reply :
thank youOn 7/16/2015 at 11:46 PM, cdemarse said:Here you go
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301679249656?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Lost-my-bait reply :
Just got my new Lowrance Mach 4 fish finder home and reading over the book (yawn).
I'm trying to figure out the best placement for the transducer.
My Minn Kota 55lb is mounted on bow, battery in back.
I ordered a small separate 12v hummingbird battery just for the fish finder but it's still shipping.
So anyway, I am just not sure the optimal spot for the transducer.
cdemarse reply :
On 7/17/2015 at 7:47 AM, Lost-my-bait said:Just got my new Lowrance Mach 4 fish finder home and reading over the book (yawn).
I'm trying to figure out the best placement for the transducer.
My Minn Kota 55lb is mounted on bow, battery in back.
I ordered a small separate 12v hummingbird battery just for the fish finder but it's still shipping.
So anyway, I am just not sure the optimal spot for the transducer.
I prefer mounting on the trolling motor.
Lost-my-bait reply :
Is it practical to mount on trolling motor when it's mounted on bow?
What direction should it be pointing? Away from boat or pointed to go under ?
cdemarse reply :
On 7/17/2015 at 8:07 AM, Lost-my-bait said:Is it practical to mount on trolling motor when it's mounted on bow?
What direction should it be pointing? Away from boat or pointed to go under ?
Yes. Its a good spot to mount it. horizontal with the point forward if its a lowrance transducer. If you mount the transducer in the back of the boat you will already be at least 10ft past what you are seeing on screen. The very right side of the screen is what you are going over currently so you are actually a little ahead of what you see on screen.
cdemarse reply :
like in this picture
http://www.crappie.com/crappie/attachments/main-crappie-fishing-forum/8344d1168607502-trolling-motor-transducer-mounts-transducer-jpg
Lost-my-bait reply :
Thank you for the info cdemarse.
Question though, the way it's mounted on the trolly makes me think it would be sending out sonar directly into the wake of the motor. The manual says to find the area with the smoothest flow otherwise it may cause dots and lines on the display.
You have no problems I take it with yours?
cdemarse reply :
On 7/17/2015 at 8:48 AM, Lost-my-bait said:Thank you for the info cdemarse.
Question though, the way it's mounted on the trolly makes me think it would be sending out sonar directly into the wake of the motor. The manual says to find the area with the smoothest flow otherwise it may cause dots and lines on the display.
You have no problems I take it with yours?
No I do not. The signal come out the flat bottom part not the back end. So it is sending the signal straight down in front of the prop.
cdemarse reply :
Transducer cone comes out like this
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=JN.COKtsMn%2bQa3Ed3Xr0n3nSw&pid=15.1
Reyn reply :
Apparently, a trolling motor does not put out enough turbulence to effect the performance of a transducer.
Lost-my-bait reply :
Thanks for all the input from each of you.
Lost-my-bait reply :
Here is my rudder I built. I have not used it yet so can't tell you if it works
I used 1" PVC , a retractable oar (sawed off the top handle grip and it slid right inside the 1" PVC ). I then used screws on each part to keep the pipe together (didn't want to glue in case I want to undo it and adjust it). The only part with no screws are the T connector itself so it will rotate. It is otherwise held tight in place by the side rails with screws.
As for making sure it does not pop up and fall overboard, I have a small eye hole screw below it in my wood floor to use a tie down on.
DaveVE reply :
Curious, are you guys running a fish finder on your deep cycle battery or do you have the seperate smaller 12v battery?
cdemarse reply :
On 7/17/2015 at 12:34 PM, DaveVE said:Curious, are you guys running a fish finder on your deep cycle battery or do you have the seperate smaller 12v battery?
I have the Lowrance Elite 3x portable so I run it off of the battery that came with it. I went with that since I use it ice fishing too.
lilsweepr reply :
On 7/17/2015 at 12:34 PM, DaveVE said:Curious, are you guys running a fish finder on your deep cycle battery or do you have the seperate smaller 12v battery?
I have my Lowrance Elite 3x running off of my deep cycle battery along with the trolling motor and have not seen any less runtime because of it. I just made sure I had an inline fuse for the FF before the splice into the power wire for trolling motor.
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/17/2015 at 12:34 PM, DaveVE said:Curious, are you guys running a fish finder on your deep cycle battery or do you have the seperate smaller 12v battery?
I purchased a small 12v battery to use for my Lowrance Elite 3X finder - works great
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/11/2015 at 5:48 AM, lilsweepr said:I like that. I have been keeping my eye open for an old broken trolling motor but have been unlucky so far. I will try to remember this if I locate the trolling motor. I like the idea of being able to just raise the rudder if needed instead of removing it as we do now.
Hey lilsweeper - I purchased a MK TM bracket off e-bay for $30 - if you don't mind spending that much - it works great for my rudder - I sure there are pictures of it on this thread but you'll have to search for them. If not let me know and I'll try to repost them. Actually I'm thinking of doing a video of all the mods I've done to my boat since I first got it 2 years ago.
Bomber7 reply :
On 7/15/2015 at 9:14 PM, SFM186 said:question.. just got my seat brackets in from academy sports. one of them is missing the black end cap on the footing. are these critical to keeping the bracket in the seat tracks? academy is telling me to contact pelican, just wondering if it's necessary.
I have a Sun Dolphin Sportsmen so I think the seat bases are different but what I did to mine was cut an old garden hose and slipped it over the seat rails - it makes it slide easier and doesn't dig into the plastic boat. The Sun Dolphin seat rails are solid steal so after one or two times out when I first got it I noticed it was digging in and cutting it up so what not much but I thought long term I would have problems. So I did the hose trick and it works great. Hope this is helpful.
SFM186 reply :
great tip, thanks bomber. i think i'll use it a bit as-is and see if i run into any problems like that. if i do, i've got just the right piece of hose to cut.. i knew if i kept it, it would come in handy for something! and the wife calls me a pack rat...
lilsweepr reply :
On 7/17/2015 at 9:13 PM, Bomber7 said:Hey lilsweeper - I purchased a MK TM bracket off e-bay for $30 - if you don't mind spending that much - it works great for my rudder - I sure there are pictures of it on this thread but you'll have to search for them. If not let me know and I'll try to repost them. Actually I'm thinking of doing a video of all the mods I've done to my boat since I first got it 2 years ago.
Thanks, I just checked that out and they still have them at $29.99 + $13 shipping. Or i have had one bookmarked probably since January on www.northlandmarine.com for $35 + $7.99 shipping. Same price you see. I just haven't pulled the trigger.
BSFisher reply :
On 7/16/2015 at 8:54 PM, Reyn said:BS,
The two wires attach to the battery posts. You then attach your trolling motor directly to the battery in the rear, or buy a male plug to match the built in female plug in the front and use that set up for the trolling motor to be up front (better option).
Ok, did a little more research on it. From my understanding the wiring is just to place the fuse in-circuit for too many amps. Can't I just buy one of these circuit breakers instead, since most people have problems with the one that comes with the boat. Sorry for the lack of understanding, Electrical wiring isn't my strong suit!
http://www.trollingmotors.net/motorguide-50-amp-breaker-with-cable
BSFisher reply :
On another topic, I wanted to see what everybody recommended on a fish finder. I've never owned or use one, but definitely want to get one for my Bass Raider. I've heard the hummingbird fishin buddy is nice, but im not sold yet.
nimbus2065 reply :
On 7/18/2015 at 10:56 AM, BSFisher said:On another topic, I wanted to see what everybody recommended on a fish finder. I've never owned or use one, but definitely want to get one for my Bass Raider. I've heard the hummingbird fishin buddy is nice, but im not sold yet.
I'm running a Lowrance Elite 4 HDI has GPS navionics software. Wish it had side scan but I can't afford the best of both worlds so. It's compact to.
nimbus2065 reply :
On 7/18/2015 at 10:56 AM, BSFisher said:On another topic, I wanted to see what everybody recommended on a fish finder. I've never owned or use one, but definitely want to get one for my Bass Raider. I've heard the hummingbird fishin buddy is nice, but im not sold yet.
I'm running a Lowrance Elite 4 HDI has GPS navionics software. Wish it had side scan but I can't afford the best of both worlds so. It's compact to.
lilsweepr reply :
On 7/18/2015 at 10:56 AM, BSFisher said:On another topic, I wanted to see what everybody recommended on a fish finder. I've never owned or use one, but definitely want to get one for my Bass Raider. I've heard the hummingbird fishin buddy is nice, but im not sold yet.
I'm running a Lowrance Elite 3x with a handheld gps beside it. I would like them combined but I had the gps already and did not have the money for the Elite 4 so I have what I have. It has worked out alright for me. I can also say that I can testify that the FF has helped me catch fish.
Here's how I have them mounted:
nimbus2065 reply :
The 3x is an awesome unit I've seen them on clearance at Walmart for as low as $99 I only went with the 4 cause I got It for $200 off lowrance factory site with the 83/200 - 455/800 transducer because the chirp was coming out
BSFisher reply :
Seems like the 3x could be the way to go. Does anybody have any experience with the Humminbird PMAX 197C DI? It says it's a close contender to it, but is better at distinguishing fish.
Reyn reply :
This is my fishfinder set up on my 10E; I recently purchased a Humminbird Helix 5 Si GPS from TheDigitalOasis.com for $444.95 and free shipping (you can get a less expensive Helix without side imaging). I mounted it to a Ram Mount specific to the Helix and attached it to the the plastick bar by the right front rod holder. No holes needed to be drilled through the hull. The yellow do hickel on the wire harness is a waterproof fuse holder for a 3 amp fuse that Humminbird does not supply, but they tell you that you must use a 3 amp fuse or bye bye warrantee.
Lost-my-bait reply :
Finally took my boat out for its maiden voyage. Learned several things:
1. Streamline the equipment. Was over cautious and took to much stuff making the trip cramped and not very usable.
2. I don't know how to read a fish finder. Yup, I hooked it correctly (pretty sure). I was able to get what seemed like accurate depth readings, but I never saw anything that looked like it should be a fish... Also never got a bite in 3 hrs of boating around. (So results matched the sonar)
3. Find a new lake.... I was at lake medina near San Antonio near the dam. Water measured 60 to 102ft on average. Was not what I planned on. I was hoping to find a small number inlet to anchor in and fish. Will try lake Calaveras or lake Bastrop next.
Overall the boat handled well and I was happy, but I will need to adjust some things to work for me.
lilphill23 reply :
was just curious as to what gauge the built in wiring is. If anybody happens to know.
atomicchicken reply :
On 7/20/2015 at 11:52 PM, lilphill23 said:was just curious as to what gauge the built in wiring is. If anybody happens to know.
If I'm not mistaken it's 8 AWG.
Shines Mullet Shak reply :
I agree it is 8awg
DaveVE reply :
This has to be the best thread ever. I love the added 7" riser. It took me a few minutes to get the feeling down. It wasn't exactly tippy but sitting up higher felt a little different. Now I don't even notice. Left the rear seat alone as my wife is only 5'1 and she wouldn't be able to reach the floor. I love this little boat so much that I robbed the Hummingbird off my Ranger bass boat until I can afford another. Added some Bass Pro cheapo rod straps and a battery tray mainly to keep it from sliding around while transporting. I installed two drain plugs in the pontoons to help with any rain water and also I was curious of the condition of the foam. My boat is older so I was half expecting foam mush but it is surprisingly good. Just ordered a small 12v battery for my FF. The best part of this whole deal is that my wife loves this boat as well so this new obsession has a green light.
pointhunter75 reply :
Yep, the riser makes all the difference in the world for us tall people. Glad you like it. Now you can easily spin around when you need to.
DaveVE reply :
Also, the Lowrance Elite 3x is $90 on Amazon right now.
tfultz reply :
On 7/19/2015 at 5:53 AM, Reyn said:This is my fishfinder set up on my 10E; I recently purchased a Humminbird Helix 5 Si GPS from TheDigitalOasis.com for $444.95 and free shipping (you can get a less expensive Helix without side imaging). I mounted it to a Ram Mount specific to the Helix and attached it to the the plastick bar by the right front rod holder. No holes needed to be drilled through the hull. The yellow do hickel on the wire harness is a waterproof fuse holder for a 3 amp fuse that Humminbird does not supply, but they tell you that you must use a 3 amp fuse or bye bye warrantee.
Looks sweet! After you use it give an update. Be curios how it preforms. Have an Lowerance elite 7 hdi with all the goodies, its kinda hard to get set up. Great once you get used to it tho.
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
How long would I be able to be out fishing in one of these with just a trolling motor? And are there things that you can have on board to keep your battery charged if it were to die? I am thinking about buying one here in the next couple months and was just wondering if I would need to get a small outboard to go with it. Don't want to spend that kind of money if I don't have to. Also, would I be able to take it out on a good sized lake?
BSFisher reply :
On 7/18/2015 at 11:43 AM, lilsweepr said:I'm running a Lowrance Elite 3x with a handheld gps beside it. I would like them combined but I had the gps already and did not have the money for the Elite 4 so I have what I have. It has worked out alright for me. I can also say that I can testify that the FF has helped me catch fish.
Here's how I have them mounted:
Bought my Elite 3x from Walmart! It was on sale for 90 there like Amazon, but had free shipping. I was interested in how you had your transducer mounted if you didn't mind showing it?
BSFisher reply :
On 7/25/2015 at 11:01 PM, BrooksC said:How long would I be able to be out fishing in one of these with just a trolling motor? And are there things that you can have on board to keep your battery charged if it were to die? I am thinking about buying one here in the next couple months and was just wondering if I would need to get a small outboard to go with it. Don't want to spend that kind of money if I don't have to. Also, would I be able to take it out on a good sized lake?
I have a minn Kota endura max 45# that I use with a 105 amp hour stowaway deep marine battery. It last for about 8 hours with medium use
wnspain reply :
I have an endura 50 and I can tell you that operation at max setting will severely affect the duration of charge. I usually don't operate it above 3 now and when I'm actually fishing, I use 1 and 2. I can fish longer than my butt can tolerate. Just picked up a MG Bulldog w foot control, haven't had it long enough to evaluate power consumption.
DaveVE reply :
I use a Minn Kota Endura 40 and after 3-4 hours of pretty heavy running I still have 2/3 charge on a 27 battery. Like wnspain said I only use 1-2 speeds while fishing though. I do push it to 4-5 when going to spots if they aren't real far from me.
crawl4yourlife reply :
You guys and your big boats.....less is the new more.....
6-1/2' rod shown for scale. 1980 Bass Hunter, 6' long. I was looking for ideas for this gem and found this site and this thread.
lilsweepr reply :
On 7/25/2015 at 11:22 PM, BSFisher said:Bought my Elite 3x from Walmart! It was on sale for 90 there like Amazon, but had free shipping. I was interested in how you had your transducer mounted if you didn't mind showing it?
Here's the pic as requested:
I got it from Bass Pro Shops. It was designed for several lowrance models. It was more expensive, $25, then I would like but it's the only mount I know of. I see it as the little piece of plastic costing about $23 and the metal clamp $2 from the hardware store.
I ran the cable up the trolling motor shaft and used electrical tape in two places to hold it. Could have used zip ties but I did not want to flatten the cable any and I can replace the tape as needed. Because you cannot cut the cable I left it wire tied and place it in the rod holder behind my transducer mount. I left the power cable full length also so I can sell it easier if I ever need too. I spliced the power cable into the trolling motor power with an inline fuse.
Reyn reply :
I have the same mount, only Humminbird brand. < $18.00, free shipping, no sales tax on EBay.
BSFisher reply :
Lilsweep, I set mine up almost exactly to how yours. Tried it out for the first time today and had a couple of problems at first. Don't think it was with the mount but can't be sure, i didn't see any "arches" at all that represent fish, just small dots here and there. Did you ever have this problem?On 7/26/2015 at 6:19 AM, lilsweepr said:Here's the pic as requested:
I got it from Bass Pro Shops. It was designed for several lowrance models. It was more expensive, $25, then I would like but it's the only mount I know of. I see it as the little piece of plastic costing about $23 and the metal clamp $2 from the hardware store.
I ran the cable up the trolling motor shaft and used electrical tape in two places to hold it. Could have used zip ties but I did not want to flatten the cable any and I can replace the tape as needed. Because you cannot cut the cable I left it wire tied and place it in the rod holder behind my transducer mount. I left the power cable full length also so I can sell it easier if I ever need too. I spliced the power cable into the trolling motor power with an inline fuse.
lilsweepr reply :
I'm still learning to read it myself. I had the fish id on at first but after watching one of bassresources video s I turned it off my last trip.
Notice in this video if the link worked, that the fish finder says a speed of 5mph. I have only gotten up to 2.1 mph according to my GPS and that was getting back to the ramp. That, I believe, will be why we won't necessarily see arches.
Has anyone seen the arches that we are expecting?
lt21football reply :
Hey fellas, I am new to the topic and looking to purchase a 10e. I have a 2015 Colorado with a 5.2 inch bed. With the tailgate down, do you think I will be able to put a 10e in my bed with straps and it be okay? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
DaveVE reply :
My silverado bed is 6' and with the tailgate down my boat hangs over a couple feet. It doesn't budge with three rachet straps. I just put a red cloth or strap on the end to keep cops happy. You should be fine.
Wetahook2 reply :
No problem fitting in bed of my Nissan Frontier (with a 5' bed). Should fit nicely in your Colorado......
DaveVE reply :
I have a 4 hp Evinrude that came with my boat. Pretty cool motor, but it is overkill and I don't like messing with fuel lines/mixture/more weight/one more thing to hook up at the lake. What I'm wondering is if I should just buy another deep cycle battery so I can run the trolling motor harder to spots and not have to worry about charge. I can sell the outboard and use like 1/5 the money on a battery and the rest on more mods. On the flipside, I have seen some 2hp Evinrudes with a built in tank that look to weigh quite a bit less.
pointhunter75 reply :
I have a 2.5 HP Yamaha 4 stroke that's about 37 lbs and much faster than my 45 endura max and has a 1 liter tank on top. I use it on a river I fish, because I want distance there for some of my fishing holes. Everywhere else I canfish all day with my group 29 ever start maxx and only use 1/4 to 1/2 charge.
lt21football reply :
Anyone else running a Minnkota Mx65 20lb thrust? I'm picking up my boat today and am worried this might not be enough power. Also looking into getting a 2.5 outboard but prices are not cheap.
lt21football reply :
Also would love to see/hear everybody's deck/flooring ideas. I will be split between fishing with a buddy and fishing solo. I would like to make a deck with a pedestal seat for when I fish alone. Have the back seat stay in to travel to the fishing area, then have the front pedestal seat to fish. This front deck will come out and be replaced with the other seat when I am with a buddy. Anybody have a set up similar to this?
DaveVE reply :
The trolling motor depends on the size of water you fish. 20lb would be fine on a pond but I'd go bigger on lakes. The lowest I've owned was 28lb and I would never do that again. If a storm or wind pops up you'll be very glad to have more lbs of thrust, especially if it's your only means of propulsion.
Reyn reply :
This is my fishfinder set up on my 10E; I recently purchased a Humminbird Helix 5 Si GPS from TheDigitalOasis.com for $444.95 and free shipping (you can get a less expensive Helix without side imaging). I mounted it to a Ram Mount specific to the Helix and attached it to the the plastick bar by the right front rod holder. No holes needed to be drilled through the hull. The yellow do hickel on the wire harness is a waterproof fuse holder for a 3 amp fuse that Humminbird does not supply, but they tell you that you must use a 3 amp fuse or bye bye warrantee.image.jpg
Update: I took it out today for the first time. It showed me a fish, first cast of the day, 14+ inch bass on a swimming jig.
Reyn reply :
Reposting pic.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/uploads/monthly_07_2015/post-48460-0-43220400-1437256343.jpg
TimmyD reply :
Hey guys, I have spent some time looking through this thread to get some ideas for my bass hunter 2 man boat. I wanted to show ya'll my video clip of my mud motor I put on it . Today I cut the plywood decking to put in the middle. I am going to put a deck in the middle so that I can use 12" pedestals with the seats from my bass boat. I will look forward to posting pics as I do the mods and get some feedback and ideas.
https://youtu.be/_bwsFKjRUDg
Tommy X reply :
Is anyone else unhappy about how easy it is to destroy the bottom of this boat?
I bought mine new this spring, I had it out a dozen times or so and I'm getting worried I wont have a boat next season.
I am very careful with it, I avoid gravel ramps, I never drag it around. The bottom still looks like hell.
I though about gluing down aluminum strips, but why should I have to go through all that with a brand new boat with tough "ram x" plastic?
After seeing Bass Pros version of the plastic boat, I think I screwed up by not looking at theirs first.
The plastic seems 10x tougher.
Other then that, I like the boat, I just don't see it lasting more then 2 or 3 years with light use.
lilphill23 reply :
Has anyone tried a Sully mount for mounting their transducer on their bass raider?
http://www.basspro.com/Sully-Transducer-Brackets-for-Outboard-Motors/product/387/
pointhunter75 reply :
Mine gets dragged over all kinds of stuff. It's scratched up but no problems. It's PVC so easily fixed by melting pvc pipe and welding it if you get a hole. So no worries.
bassinOUT89 reply :
Question for my fellow bass tub guys, my registration numbers have been peeling off, so I took them off completley. Does anyone know if permanent black marker would work for the numbers. Specifically one with oil based paint.
This is what I'm talking about http://www.walmart.com/msharbor/ip/Sharpie-Paint-Marker-Pen-Oil-Based-Bold-Point-Black/39197669?adid=1500000000000007428620&veh=iphapp
Reyn reply :
I wiped on some alcohol, let it dry and the stickers have stayed in place.
bassinOUT89 reply :
i lightly sanded the area, didn't do much though. They stayed on almost a year* but I always hose the boat down every time I get home. So I'm sure that had something to do with it. I went ahead and used a magnum sized marker. We'll see how it holds up.On 8/6/2015 at 7:34 AM, Reyn said:I wiped on some alcohol, let it dry and the stickers have stayed in place.
jitterbug127 reply :
Will this fit in the back of a pick up truck? 8 ft bed
jitterbug127 reply :
Nvm question was answered in previous thread
pointhunter75 reply :
They will fit in a 97 z71 step side bed, so easily in a fleet side.
jitterbug127 reply :
Well I got a bass raider today and fished it. It is the 8e. Buddy of mine went out. It is crampted, but we made it work. Would have got the 10e if could do it over but for 200 bucks it works
jitterbug127 reply :
Guys need some help. Found two Minn kotas one a 30 lb thrust other 50. 30 is 80 bucks. 50 is 150 bucks. Both like New. I am trying to decide which to go with? Please let me know asap
DaveVE reply :
I'd personally jump for the 50. A 30lb Minn Kota is 100 new.
jitterbug127 reply :
Ok. Is 30 enough thrust or will I need 50? Haven't been out with it except paddling
jitterbug127 reply :
I fish an 800 and 1200 acre lake a lot
DaveVE reply :
30 is enough but I think you'd be happier with the 50. I run a 40 and mainly stick to lakes under 300 acres. The added power will come in handy if a storm pops up and you have to get to shore quick.
wnspain reply :
On 8/14/2015 at 10:27 AM, jitterbug127 said:Ok. Is 30 enough thrust or will I need 50? Haven't been out with it except paddling
Opt for the 50, you'll be glad you did. I've personally had a 30MK, a 50 MK, and a 54MG for my 10e. I still have both 50's and mainly fish a 350 acre lake. There's a significant difference in 20 lbs. of thrust on these little yachts . BTW -- bring a paddle, ALWAYS
Reyn reply :
Recently I gave inaccurate information on how I prepared my 10E for registration stickers to bassinOUT89.
I used white vinegar and there still on after over a year. There is a conversation on this subject on page 83.
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
I just got my 10E and got a 27 series deep cycle for my trolling motor. Also have a fish finder. Can I hook both of the fish finder and trolling motor directly to the battery? I don't know much about all that. My first boat so I am just trying to figure out how to set that up. If anyone could explain or post a picture of how your fish finder and motor is connected to battery that would be great. Need to figure out by Sunday night.
lilsweepr reply :
On 8/15/2015 at 10:02 AM, BrooksC said:I just got my 10E and got a 27 series deep cycle for my trolling motor. Also have a fish finder. Can I hook both of the fish finder and trolling motor directly to the battery? I don't know much about all that. My first boat so I am just trying to figure out how to set that up. If anyone could explain or post a picture of how your fish finder and motor is connected to battery that would be great. Need to figure out by Sunday night.
Here is the pic of my setup. I run my trolling motor up front with the trolling motor power and fish finder power into the plug at the front of the boat. I have the inline fuse for the trolling motor spliced into the wire before it joins the TM wire because it requires less amperage. It's stuffed behind the unit in the picture. The inline fuse for the TM is in back at the battery.
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
I don't have the plug in for the boat yet and won't have it by the time I go Monday morning. Can I just connect the fish finder and trolling motor directly to my battery?
lilsweepr reply :
Yes, you can. BUT make sure you use the right fuses for each item. Don't want to burn up your gear on your first outing. Carry extra fuses also. I find using old medicine bottles handy for that purpose. I have the 27 battery also but got a little bigger battery box that has the adjustable divider in it. The extra fuses fits in this void just right.
Good luck, I am headed to bed now so I can get up with the sun and go in the morning.
Fishes in trees reply :
In for a penny - in for a pound. I'd buy a small lawn tractor battery to power the depth finder with and not put anything else on the trolling motor battery.
Reyn reply :
I have both the trolling motor and fishfinder connected to the front plug of my 10E. There is absolutely no interference from the trolling motor and since I hooked up the fishfinder my full size battery still lasts all day. After all the draw of the fishfinder is measured in micro amps. Not having another battery means a little more floor space and one less thing to take in and out of the boat when trailering it.
DaveVE reply :
I bought a small 12v sealed battery for my finder and no joking have used it on 4 outings and it still shows fully charged so the FF draw is very, very little. I do like having my small battery as a simple backup for the trolling motor so I will keep using it.
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
I need some pictures and ideas of how to mount the fish finder in the boat. I would rather not have holes drilled or anything. Any way to do that? Maybe using one of the rod holders or something? Send pictures if you have them please. Also materials used to make the mount would be helpful. Thanks!
lilsweepr reply :
On 8/18/2015 at 9:43 AM, BrooksC said:I need some pictures and ideas of how to mount the fish finder in the boat. I would rather not have holes drilled or anything. Any way to do that? Maybe using one of the rod holders or something? Send pictures if you have them please. Also materials used to make the mount would be helpful. Thanks!
I originally thought about using pvc pipe. I thought I might mount a platform on top with fishfinder attached and the pipe would fit in rod holder. Would make removal of whole unit easier. I settled on mounting the metal base on the outside of the rod holder. Thought I might still be able to use rod holder but have been using it for the extra cable storage. I can see that you have seen my pic a few posts back. I have yet to mount anything where I would have to puncture into the plastic. I would like to mount my paddle to the outside with a paddle holder but I just cannot get my nerve up to do it.
Reyn reply :
BrooksC,
Look at my post and picture from 18 July on page 122. It might be what your looking for.
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
On 8/18/2015 at 10:27 AM, Reyn said:BrooksC,
Look at my post and picture from 18 July on page 122. It might be what your looking for.
What do you have it mounted with? It's kind of hard to tell. I just have a lowrance 3x so mine is a little smaller but looks like you have some sort of clamp on there?
Reyn reply :
BrookC,
I explained everything in my narrative on page 122. Tap or click on the picture to enlarge it.
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
Gotcha. I'm going to work on mine this weekend. Thanks!
Canam13 reply :
New Pelican 10E owner, have had it about a month now. Really loving this little boat.
1st, I wanted to thank everyone that has contributed to this topic and shared all their great ideas and mods. It was one of the reason I ended up buying a raider, seeing all the mods and ways to improve the little bass catcher.
So I have completed some mods (rudder,foot switch, rod tie downs etc.) I'll post some pics when completed, my next step is buying a fish finder! I have never purchased one and wanted some other opinions and experiences. I will fabricate my own mount and wiring is no problem and I also want to mount the transducer to the TM. I have been looking at the Lowrance elite 4x chirp model for $169-199 and really don't want to spend anymore than that.
So a couple questions I have:
-Is color screen really a must have? It seems if you go to B/W screen, you can get more features in a FF at the same price point as a color screen model.
-Really looking for water temp, good structure and fish marking. Gps waypoint plotting(being able to mark a piece of structure on a certain lake), would be great, but might be out of my price range, not sure?
-Can I wire in my FF inline(fused of course) with my trolling motor feed up front off of my main battery in the bow?
-Does the FF draw enough to be concerned with a separate battery purchase?
-how important is it to buy an unit that is waterproof?
Any and all help is greatly appreciated. I look forward to contributing to this topic and good luck catching!
lilsweepr reply :
Canam13, check out my post on page 125 post #1868 for a pic of my setup.
I have the inline fuse spliced between the FF and the TM plug. The inline fuse for the TM is in the rear at the battery. I have had no problems from either. I did replace the original rear fuse with the flat style.
i have the Elite 3x and I think it works just fine for me. Still learning to read it. Having used a monochrome one before, I believe i can actually see this one better and also differentiate between the bottom composition better.
I wanted a FF that had GPS builtin but did not have the money to afford it so I made use of an older handheld Garmin that i have. Been working fine so far.
Right now the only thing I would do different and plan on changing is to get a digital trolling motor so i can have variable speed control. There has been times when i just needed half the speed i was going, or needed a half more. Also the electrical consumption is supposed to be 4-5 times less than the non-digital variety of the same lbs thrust. I have not had any problems with running out of battery yet but I do have a couple of places I would like to go and feel like I would make it back without paddling.
I will be adding the Big Foot switch to my trolling motor this weekend. Could have used it last weekend for sure.
As far as waterproof goes, I would make that a requirement. Do they have units that are not? You are not getting back fast if a rain shower pops up.
Hope this helps.
pointhunter75 reply :
Also a digital trolling motor uses a good bit less battery. Minn kota enduramaxx 45 is what I have and I love it!!!
lilsweepr reply :
Got my Big Foot switch installed today:
Now i am ready for those windy days.
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
On 8/24/2015 at 5:33 AM, lilsweepr said:Got my Big Foot switch installed today:
Now i am ready for those windy days.
How much was that? You just connect it to any trolling motor and then you can control with your foot? Hard to install?
lilsweepr reply :
On 8/25/2015 at 9:12 AM, No Thanks I said:How much was that? You just connect it to any trolling motor and then you can control with your foot? Hard to install?
Got it for 21.99 + taxes from Bass Pro Shops.
It installs on the negative wire of the trolling motor. Just a couple of butt splices and it's good to go. I used heat shrink to neaten it up a little. I mounted it to the carpeted board so it wouldn't move on me. It has the holes for screws. I remove my trolling motor after each trip so this gets moved along with the FF wires.
I have a coworker who got one also and he is wanting me to install his after he saw the pic of mine.
Haven't tried it out yet more than just sitting in boat on the trailer.
Canam13 reply :
On 8/25/2015 at 9:52 AM, lilsweepr said:Got it for 21.99 + taxes from Bass Pro Shops.
It installs on the negative wire of the trolling motor. Just a couple of butt splices and it's good to go. I used heat shrink to neaten it up a little. I mounted it to the carpeted board so it wouldn't move on me. It has the holes for screws. I remove my trolling motor after each trip so this gets moved along with the FF wires.
I have a coworker who got one also and he is wanting me to install his after he saw the pic of mine.
Haven't tried it out yet more than just sitting in boat on the trailer.
IMO the foot switch is a must have for these little boats and very easy to install. Going to make up a little board for mine when I get home, good idea!
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
What does that thing do?
pointhunter75 reply :
It's an on off switch. You set the handle on the speed you want and put your foot on it when you want to go. It also has a flip thing that locks it on if you want. Wal mart and academy also has them
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
Nice. Yea that would be helpful. Especially in windy conditions like I found myself in last time out. Spent more time controlling the motor than fishing.
Paintball reply :
I have been tossing around the idea of a Kayak, SUP or a Pelican bass raider 10e. I already own a MotorGuide R3 saltwater transom-mount trolling motor. Like the thought of a trolling motor to get back in if weather/wind gets bad. Curious if any of you have done any shallow marsh fishing in one of these little boats?
Canam13 reply :
On 8/28/2015 at 9:34 PM, Paintball said:I have been tossing around the idea of a Kayak, SUP or a Pelican bass raider 10e. I already own a MotorGuide R3 saltwater transom-mount trolling motor. Like the thought of a trolling motor to get back in if weather/wind gets bad. Curious if any of you have done any shallow marsh fishing in one of these little boats?
With my buddy and I in the boat( both of us are 230lbs) the boat was only sitting down in 8 inches of water. So a single guy should be able to navigate in very shallow marsh/back creeks. One of the great features of this boat is the places they can go.
Trolling would be a must for the pelican. Haven't had to paddle mine(10e), but would imagine it can't be easy.
Paintball reply :
On 8/28/2015 at 9:46 PM, Canam13 said:With my buddy and I in the boat( both of us are 230lbs) the boat was only sitting down in 8 inches of water. So a single guy should be able to navigate in very shallow marsh/back creeks. One of the great features of this boat is the places they can go.
Trolling would be a must for the pelican. Haven't had to paddle mine(10e), but would imagine it can't be easy.
Thanks for the reply. I am leaning more and more to the Pelican due to the information gathered from this thread. I appreciate all the information you all have provided here.
pointhunter75 reply :
I kayak fish also. I like the raider better, much more room, better view since you're above the water. I can go 95% anywhere in the raider as the kayak
Canam13 reply :
On 8/28/2015 at 11:54 PM, pointhunter75 said:I kayak fish also. I like the raider better, much more room, better view since you're above the water. I can go 95% anywhere in the raider as the kayak
Totally agree! Fished out of a friends canoe for a couple years and hated sitting so low in the water. The pelican is much more comfortable, you are able to stand while fishing also. I find standing and sitting up higher just leads to better casts and more ways to present baits to the bass. Love my little raider.
Fishing Tech reply :
New member here, I have been reading this post for a while and finally decided join the site. I have a bass raider 10e and I love it I am planning on taking it out this weekend and I'll take a few pics of her and see what you guys think
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
I have paddled mine just to see how it would be in case and it is very easy to paddle as long as your paddle is long enough. Moves just fine.
Canam13 reply :
On 8/29/2015 at 2:38 AM, No Thanks I said:I have paddled mine just to see how it would be in case and it is very easy to paddle as long as your paddle is long enough. Moves just fine.
That's good to know. Hope I never have to test that idea though!
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
Me either but it's really easy even with a loaded down boat and two people. Good workout!
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
I have fished in shallow water and it does just fine. Not marsh though. I'm sure would do fine. They're extremely sturdy. I love it.
Iceman71 reply :
Finally got my floor installed and my Big Foot switch installed this week. Took it out this morning to try everything out, AWESOME. Gotta re-wire my Lawrance Fish Finder now cause I had it grounded through the trolling motor plug but when I hit the Bigfoot switch it shuts off. Now I have to decide if I want to add an additional battery for just the Fish Finder or run it off my regular battery. Any suggestions?
Reyn reply :
I don't have any suggestions, but thanks for telling us about this. I never gave it any thought.
Do you have the Big Foot connected before or after the FF connection?
lilsweepr reply :
On 8/30/2015 at 5:56 AM, Iceman71 said:Finally got my floor installed and my Big Foot switch installed this week. Took it out this morning to try everything out, AWESOME. Gotta re-wire my Lawrance Fish Finder now cause I had it grounded through the trolling motor plug but when I hit the Bigfoot switch it shuts off. Now I have to decide if I want to add an additional battery for just the Fish Finder or run it off my regular battery. Any suggestions?
This made me go try out mine as I am not going till in the morning. Mine seems to work fine. How is yours spliced in? I spliced the FF in the splice with the trolling motor to the plug. The big foot switch is spliced separately up the negative side of the TM.
lilsweepr reply :
On 8/30/2015 at 6:20 AM, Reyn said:I don't have any suggestions, but thanks for telling us about this. I never gave it any thought.
Do you have the Big Foot connected before or after the FF connection?
Mine is connected to TM then to splice with FF and plug.
Iceman71 reply :
I have the FF spliced in at the trolling motor to the plug. When I activate the Bigfoot switch the FF turns off
lilsweepr reply :
I took a pic since i have it in the carport ready to go. Where the splice goes to the FF it actually goes to a quick connect as i thought i might be disconnecting it after each trip which has not been the case. I have an inline 3 amp fuse on the line to the FF.
Iceman71 reply :
On 8/30/2015 at 7:14 AM, lilsweepr said:I took a pic since i have it in the carport ready to go. Where the splice goes to the FF it actually goes to a quick connect as i thought i might be disconnecting it after each trip which has not been the case. I have an inline 3 amp fuse on the line to the FF.
I appreciate the photo, pretty sure I did mine the same way. I will look at it and redo it if need be. How did you mount your transducer?
lilsweepr reply :
I mounted the transducer to the trolling motor. Bought the mount at bass pro. Just using electrical tape on the shaft for the cord.
pointhunter75 reply :
I have the telescopic paddle from wal mart and it paddles fine. You should have one for emergencies. Roll tide lilsweepr!!!
Reyn reply :
Bought this on e-bay for around $20. It's unique in that the bottom of the paddle has an opening to use as a hand grip. This comes in handy for someone to pull you into shore or a dock. On the opposite end are two hooks in the handle. I use these to grip a sapling to pull me in to retrieve a lure in the branches and also to dislodge a stuck submerged lure.
lilsweepr reply :
Got to try out the big foot today and what a game changer. The wind was blowing but I could still fish thanks to the switch. Now when it's windy I won't just be a guide running the motor. I like that i have it on the piece of carpeted wood cause i was able to move it to the side i was facing. The boy and I caught five. talked with someone else when we were leaving and they got skunked. I get tickled that i have the limited range but still catch as much or more than most of the big boats we talk to.
Iceman71, my FF performed fine. No problems at all.
Roll Tide!! pointhunter75, 6 more days
Iceman71 reply :
On 8/31/2015 at 10:57 AM, lilsweepr said:Got to try out the big foot today and what a game changer. The wind was blowing but I could still fish thanks to the switch. Now when it's windy I won't just be a guide running the motor. I like that i have it on the piece of carpeted wood cause i was able to move it to the side i was facing. The boy and I caught five. talked with someone else when we were leaving and they got skunked. I get tickled that i have the limited range but still catch as much or more than most of the big boats we talk to.
Iceman71, my FF performed fine. No problems at all.
Roll Tide!! pointhunter75, 6 more days
Nice to hear everything worked correctly. Will have to figure out what I did wrong to get corrected. I agree that the Bigfoot switch is a game changer. I loved using mine on Saturday. Just bummed I didn't get to use my FF. I'll get it ironed out this week so I can try it Saturday.
Canam13 reply :
On 8/31/2015 at 9:07 PM, Iceman71 said:Nice to hear everything worked correctly. Will have to figure out what I did wrong to get corrected. I agree that the Bigfoot switch is a game changer. I loved using mine on Saturday. Just bummed I didn't get to use my FF. I'll get it ironed out this week so I can try it Saturday.
Iceman- check to make sure that your FF splice (specifically the ground/black wire) is before the bigfoot switch in the wiring circuit. Sounds like it might be after the foot switch, which is why you are losing the FF while using the BG switch.
lilsweepr - I'm with you, can't wait till college football starts.....GO BLUE !
Canam13 reply :
I thinking of adding a second TM to the stern of my raider-10e for when I go on bigger lakes. I will have to pull my rudder out then. Do I have to make some type of modified rudder and attach it to the rear TM, or will the rear TM act as a rudder?
What kind of battery drain should I expect when making long runs with both motors on. currently have bow-30lbs MK, stern 30lb MK. Normal day of fishing a smaller lake, I start with 13.4 volts and have 12.6 when I get home on one TM. I usually fish 4-6 hours.
wnspain reply :
I have a 54 for bow, 50 for stearn, separate batteries for each. No rudder required of you disperse weight properly, even when I go bow only. I've seen a few that have rudders but it's usually found on boats that are improperly balanced.
pointhunter75 reply :
I think two tms at once may pull too much current on one battery, not sure though. Maybe somebody else knows.
Iceman71 reply :
On 8/31/2015 at 10:57 AM, lilsweepr said:Got to try out the big foot today and what a game changer. The wind was blowing but I could still fish thanks to the switch. Now when it's windy I won't just be a guide running the motor. I like that i have it on the piece of carpeted wood cause i was able to move it to the side i was facing. The boy and I caught five. talked with someone else when we were leaving and they got skunked. I get tickled that i have the limited range but still catch as much or more than most of the big boats we talk to.
Iceman71, my FF performed fine. No problems at all.
Roll Tide!! pointhunter75, 6 more days
On 8/31/2015 at 11:34 PM, Canam13 said:Iceman- check to make sure that your FF splice (specifically the ground/black wire) is before the bigfoot switch in the wiring circuit. Sounds like it might be after the foot switch, which is why you are losing the FF while using the BG switch.
lilsweepr - I'm with you, can't wait till college football starts.....GO BLUE !
Ok, so I checked my wiring and apparently the FF ground had come loose. So I secured the ground and it works perfectly now. So we are ready to go test out the complete setup now. Thanks guys for walking me through this cause I was really scratching my head at this. Happy Fishing.
jitterbug127 reply :
I need a new set of drain plugs. Where is a good place to get them
Iceman71 reply :
On 9/12/2015 at 11:32 AM, jitterbug127 said:I need a new set of drain plugs. Where is a good place to get them
i ordered mine straight from Pelican. free shipping and it only took like 3 days to get them.
No Thanks I'll Bass reply :
On 9/12/2015 at 11:32 AM, jitterbug127 said:I need a new set of drain plugs. Where is a good place to get them
What happened to yours? Just curious. They fall out or something?
jitterbug127 reply :
One of mine fell out. The other is worn out
jitterbug127 reply :
And recommendations to help protect the bottom of the boat? I put in in some places that are very rocky and scratch the boat
jitterbug127 reply :
Also are drain plugs a half inch?
DaveVE reply :
I've been running my fish finder on a small 12v sealed battery and last night for kicks I tested it as a backup emergency battery for my trolling motor. It got me back to the ramp across an 80 acre lake.
jitterbug127 reply :
Anyone have advice on where I can get a rudder for back of boat?
Pond fisher reply :
Build one from PVC. Or what I have done is mount a piece of plexiglass to my trolling motor shaft. I have a 28# thrust on the front an a 45# thrust on the back (with the rudder).
johnkn reply :
Greetings, I'm considering buying a Pelican 10e, I see them on the Dick's Sporting Goods web site but it won't allow be to check local stock. I can older through their website, pricing is $699 but shipping is $381!. I'm in Maryland, looks like this is shipped from Canada. Anyone have suggestions on where to buy? I contacted Pelican and they suggested Dicks and Directboats.com which is out of stock. thanks
Reyn reply :
If I were you, I'd call my local Dick's store and see what they have in stock. I bought mine last year from my local Dick's store and paid half of what you would pay to have it shipped from Dicks.com. Seeing that the nice fishing weather in Maryland is almost over, maybe you should wait for a good sale price, or wait until next Spring.
Kevin F reply :
Just bought a Pelican 10e and have been up all night reading this forum to get some ideals I have never owned a boat and was wondering if I would need to register it . I noticed that the boats I see in the pictures have a tag and numbers on the side. I asked the guy at Academy that sold me the boat , he seemed to think that since I was only using a trolling motor it was not nessary. Don't wanna go to the lake and get a ticket. I live in Dallas,Tx. I usually do not respond to forums and apologize if I am getting off subject..
Great site lots of good info here....
zachb34 reply :
You should be able to find that on your states DMV website. Don't believe what people tell you the common misconception here is that if it's electric or 9.9 HP or lower, you don't need to register it. That's false. Anything with a motor in florida needs registration on public water. The specific info is irrelevant to you, but don't just listen to what people around you say. Ask the DMV.On 10/4/2015 at 2:58 PM, Kevin F said:Just bought a Pelican 10e and have been up all night reading this forum to get some ideals I have never owned a boat and was wondering if I would need to register it . I noticed that the boats I see in the pictures have a tag and numbers on the side. I asked the guy at Academy that sold me the boat , he seemed to think that since I was only using a trolling motor it was not nessary. Don't wanna go to the lake and get a ticket. I live in Dallas,Tx. I usually do not respond to forums and apologize if I am getting off subject..
Great site lots of good info here....
Kevin F reply :
Thanks.
jitterbug127 reply :
Do most of you guys run trolley motor on front or back of boat?
pointhunter75 reply :
Front for sure. You don't fish from the back of a boat when you can be in front with a clear view of approaching structure that holds fish and or obstacles. That makes as much sense as putting a tm on the back of a bass boat and fishing out of the back seat with nobody fishing in the front. Zero sense!
Pond fisher reply :
I have a 45 on the back and a 28 on the front.
atomicchicken reply :
On 10/7/2015 at 10:03 AM, jitterbug127 said:Do most of you guys run trolley motor on front or back of boat?
I run mine on the rear because that's how I prefer it.
atomicchicken reply :
Some time ago I replaced the ring terminals at the rear of the boat with a female mar-lan plug like what is in the front of the boat. I finally got around to mounting it properly on the inside wall of the boat. I run the trolling motor at the rear but with the mar-lan connectors at the front and rear of the boat it makes it easy if i want to run the trolling motor at the front. I have a pigtail I made for my battery box with a male mar-lan plug. I'm using the Minn-Kota power center so I did away with the in-line fuse.
Tommy X reply :
I'm plan on putting my Pelican away for the winter next month, It has to stay outside. I plan on elevating it upside down longways on a couple of picnic benches wrapped in a good tarp with bungees holding it all together. Sound good? Or will cold ruin it? Also with an electric motor, can that be stored in a shed with no heat? This my first boat so I have to ask dumb questions.
One more thing. I am tired of lifting this thing up in the back of my pick up. I go by myself 100% of the time. So I need to get a trailer during the off season. I want a good one that wont break the bank but not a cheapo like Harbor Freight, any suggestions?
zachb34 reply :
I'm from florida, we don't have any cold weather but from common sense, I'd make sure there's no water inside both the boat and trolling motor. They boats have 2 piece hulls and sometimes water can get stuck in between the two layers. The trolling motor could have water in the prop area, or possibly the head, depending on how it's been stored. As far as a trailer goes, I've seen people use Jet ski trailers and even 4x8 utility trailers.On 10/26/2015 at 10:30 PM, Tommy X said:I'm plan on putting my Pelican away for the winter next month, It has to stay outside. I plan on elevating it upside down longways on a couple of picnic benches wrapped in a good tarp with bungees holding it all together. Sound good? Or will cold ruin it? Also with an electric motor, can that be stored in a shed with no heat? This my first boat so I have to ask dumb questions.
One more thing. I am tired of lifting this thing up in the back of my pick up. I go by myself 100% of the time. So I need to get a trailer during the off season. I want a good one that wont break the bank but not a cheapo like Harbor Freight, any suggestions?
Bozz reply :
On 10/26/2015 at 10:30 PM, Tommy X said:<I want a good one that wont break the bank but not a cheapo like Harbor Freight, any suggestions?>
Hey Tommy. I understand the ramifications that many "Harbor Freight" products bring to mind...I like the good stuff myself. However, you will be overlooking a great little trailer in the 4' x 8' taller tire fold-up /tilt model HF has. It's a build it yourself package and it's perfect for a Pelican. If I did anything to change it from the stock configuration, that would be to lengthen the front hitch a foot or so. You could make it as pretty as you want...I should have painted mine or camo'ed it prior to assembly but maybe I'll do that later. But...to each his own.
The little trailers have some outstanding reviews if one takes time to read them...guys overloading the juice out of 'em and yanking 'em across country with no probs. For the $$$ (on sale and % off discounts/specials), it's hard to beat.
Tommy X reply :
On 10/27/2015 at 11:40 PM, Bozz said:
On 10/26/2015 at 10:30 PM, Tommy X said:<I want a good one that wont break the bank but not a cheapo like Harbor Freight, any suggestions?>
Hey Tommy. I understand the ramifications that many "Harbor Freight" products bring to mind...I like the good stuff myself. However, you will be overlooking a great little trailer in the 4' x 8' taller tire fold-up /tilt model HF has. It's a build it yourself package and it's perfect for a Pelican. If I did anything to change it from the stock configuration, that would be to lengthen the front hitch a foot or so. You could make it as pretty as you want...I should have painted mine or camo'ed it prior to assembly but maybe I'll do that later. But...to each his own.
The little trailers have some outstanding reviews if one takes time to read them...guys overloading the juice out of 'em and yanking 'em across country with no probs. For the $$$ (on sale and % off discounts/specials), it's hard to beat.
Can you back that HF trailer up into the water?
Bozz reply :
On 10/28/2015 at 10:16 PM, Tommy X said:Can you back that HF trailer up into the water?
Yup, I honestly can. Small corrections on the steering wheel rather than over steering will keep you from looking like a serpent's tracking down the ramp.
But...full disclosure...I have about 5 million miles on my tired backside wheeling stuff around that bends in the middle like this...
Lil practice & you'll get the hang of it. Short trailers are tougher than long...1 more reason I'd like to extend the front of my lil Raider wagon.
Tommy X reply :
On 10/30/2015 at 11:12 PM, Bozz said:Yup, I honestly can. Small corrections on the steering wheel rather than over steering will keep you from looking like a serpent's tracking down the ramp.
But...full disclosure...I have about 5 million miles on my tired backside wheeling stuff around that bends in the middle like this...
Lil practice & you'll get the hang of it. Short trailers are tougher than long...1 more reason I'd like to extend the front of my lil Raider wagon.
lol , by the looks of it I guess you're pretty good with the boat trailer then. Thanks for the tip. I should be getting a new truck and trailer sometime in January. Ill take the rig out to my favorite lakes and practice backing up with the trailer while no one is around. I think I'll be pretty good by the time March/April rolls around when I'll have an audience at the lake
BSFisher reply :
Hey everybody, I have a bass raider 10e and I am wanting to go to Lake Amistad. I was just seeing if anybody has experience with the boat in such large bodies of water?
Tommy X reply :
On 11/3/2015 at 8:34 AM, BSFisher said:Hey everybody, I have a bass raider 10e and I am wanting to go to Lake Amistad. I was just seeing if anybody has experience with the boat in such large bodies of water?
I have seen one in the bay by my house (I wouldn't try that).
I feel safe enough in my boat to go on big lakes.
I just wouldn't wander more than a 1/4 mile away from my starting point or go further out that a couple of hundred yards.
Then again I'm old and don't take as many chances as I used to. lol
Tommy X reply :
I was wondering if anyone has tried using the BR yak style?
I have a couple of places where I would like to try it.
I have a very weedy, shallow lake with tons of weeds and stumps making using the motor a major pain in the ass. Tons of bass in there and the place gets almost no pressure, I picked up 8 or 10 in a couple of hours there one day, then the weeds got so bad you could barely travel more the 30 ft before stopping and clearing the prop. So I gave up on it.
There is also another lake near me where no electric motors are permitted and it is huge lake by NJ standards, again not pressured by bass guys.
I looked at a couple of yak double paddles and I think I would have to lengthen it some since we sit higher than yak guys and add a rudder to the boat. Has anyone tried this?
jitterbug127 reply :
I am wondering more guy's are hualing or putting in bed of pick up?
Pond fisher reply :
I use a Harbor Freight trailer
zachb34 reply :
They don't paddle very well. If weeds are your problem, a push pole is a better option. Grass emerging to the surface leaves me a good guess that the water is shallow enough for this. Its not hard and can actually move you along nicely once you get used to it.On 11/3/2015 at 11:33 PM, Tommy X said:I was wondering if anyone has tried using the BR yak style?
I have a couple of places where I would like to try it.
I have a very weedy, shallow lake with tons of weeds and stumps making using the motor a major pain in the ass. Tons of bass in there and the place gets almost no pressure, I picked up 8 or 10 in a couple of hours there one day, then the weeds got so bad you could barely travel more the 30 ft before stopping and clearing the prop. So I gave up on it.
There is also another lake near me where no electric motors are permitted and it is huge lake by NJ standards, again not pressured by bass guys.
I looked at a couple of yak double paddles and I think I would have to lengthen it some since we sit higher than yak guys and add a rudder to the boat. Has anyone tried this?
Tommy X reply :
On 11/8/2015 at 11:25 AM, zachb34 said:They don't paddle very well. If weeds are your problem, a push pole is a better option. Grass emerging to the surface leaves me a good guess that the water is shallow enough for this. Its not hard and can actually move you along nicely once you get used to it.
Thanks, I was going to pick up a push pole as well. I know a few "fields" of lily pads I would love to get in the middle of.
jitterbug127 reply :
Been looking for a truck. This dude being so wide sits tilted in small trucks. I am going to be getting an 8ft bed for it
zachb34 reply :
Long bed versus short bed isn't a big deal on a full size pick-up. My short bed isn't any harder to load and unload than a long bed and the boat is still in between the wheel wells. If you want a long bed, by all means go for it. Just don't think you need it for this type of boat.On 12/10/2015 at 11:18 AM, jitterbug127 said:Been looking for a truck. This dude being so wide sits tilted in small trucks. I am going to be getting an 8ft bed for it
jitterbug127 reply :
I suppose your right but I'll be getting full size for sure
zachb34 reply :
I know my boat didn't like my friend's ranger at all so full size is the way to go.On 12/11/2015 at 11:38 AM, jitterbug127 said:I suppose your right but I'll be getting full size for sure
fishcat reply :
My 2002 Ford ranger works great for the Pelican Bass raider 8e. (I purposely bought this boat so I could handle it by myself). I cut two 2x4's to lay in the notches of molded bed liner. The bed liner is made for doing this. Stapled some I/O carpet to the boards. I lift the end of the boat onto the tailgate, and push it up onto the carpeted boards, so the rim of the boat sets just above the top of the truck bed. Strap it down and go! When it's not in use, I stand my Bass raider up against the wall of my garage in a "cradle" made from scrap wood and a strap to hold it upright. I'll try to add some pictures soon.
zachb34 reply :
I guess to be fair, we may have slightly different measurements. I dint actually have a Bass Raider. Its a Colman Perch which has now been rebranded to a su dolphon sportsman I believe. It was in the bed of an older late 90s ranger, I think. It didn't fit and had to be put in at a slant. Sure it handled it fine, but for someone buying a truck with their little boat in mind, the full size pickup gives a little more ease to the process of loading and unloading.
Wetahook2 reply :
I have a 2015 Nissan Frontier and the Bass Raider 10e fits perfectly in the bed. Its only a 5 foot bed, so obviously leave the tailgate down and strap it down nicely and it works.... Have traveled over 75 miles on the road with it in the bed with no issues... Check your wheel well measurements..and remember the pontoons are not as wide as the top of the boat (which I believe is 48")... Hope this helps...
jaaron01 reply :
Decided this year to redo the flooring in my Dolphin Sportsman. Before I had just a sheet of 3/4 marine plywood, with 1 pedestal seat base screwed to it. Decided to build the floor up enough so that the base would set flush on it, and have a couple of compartments in the flooring for storage. Got the hatch in the middle completed, but need to finish the front hatch. I'd say the total weight is around 75-80 lbs, but I have a 4x8 trailer that I use for my little 8ft boat.
Also added the battery box in the back to keep things secured going down the highway. Nothing worse than hitting a bump and having the battery bounce around.
atomicchicken reply :
jaaron01, that looks really nice. I love the compartments!
jaaron01 reply :
I keep the boat outside during the winter, upside down on it's trailer, then pull the seat/flooring section out for storage. It's nice to just drop this section in, and go. Plus it weights enough that it won't blow out while driving down the road. I made sure and made the compartment doors facing backwards so the wind wouldn't get under them.
nimbus2065 reply :
On 1/9/2016 at 12:08 AM, jaaron01 said:Decided this year to redo the flooring in my Dolphin Sportsman. Before I had just a sheet of 3/4 marine plywood, with 1 pedestal seat base screwed to it. Decided to build the floor up enough so that the base would set flush on it, and have a couple of compartments in the flooring for storage. Got the hatch in the middle completed, but need to finish the front hatch. I'd say the total weight is around 75-80 lbs, but I have a 4x8 trailer that I use for my little 8ft boat.
Also added the battery box in the back to keep things secured going down the highway. Nothing worse than hitting a bump and having the battery bounce around.
How big are the compartments? Do you use a foot control motor with yours I have the same boat and the control takes up alot of the floor.
Tommy X reply :
very nice!
GonFishin reply :
I have read this thread from page 1 and finally decided I needed to join. Lots of great ideas. I've already decided my next project is a rudder. Glad to have found this site.
MFBAB reply :
On 1/22/2016 at 1:05 PM, GonFishin said:I have read this thread from page 1 and finally decided I needed to join. Lots of great ideas. I've already decided my next project is a rudder. Glad to have found this site.
The best rudder system I've found for pond boats (I've used this on several Bass Hounds and Bass Tenders) is just to hang an old outboard motor off the back-either running or broken, doesn't matter. It provides a counter-balance if you're fishing alone in the front of the boat, and it really makes the boat track well and drastically reduces spinning issues in the wind as well!
You probably know someone who has one taking up space in their garage, you're almost doing them a favor by taking it
GonFishin reply :
I have my boat fairly well balanced with my and the tm up front and the deep cycle battery in the back. I would think an outboard would add a little to much weight. I believe I am going to build the rudder out of pvc as was pictured a few pages back. My only concern is how well it will stay on the boat or if it will come off easily.
atomicchicken reply :
On 1/23/2016 at 5:48 AM, GonFishin said:I have my boat fairly well balanced with my and the tm up front and the deep cycle battery in the back. I would think an outboard would add a little to much weight. I believe I am going to build the rudder out of pvc as was pictured a few pages back. My only concern is how well it will stay on the boat or if it will come off easily.
Someone in this thread showed one they did with a C-clamp attached to it. Just an idea to keep it in place.
dlh2 reply :
On 1/23/2016 at 5:48 AM, GonFishin said:I have my boat fairly well balanced with my and the tm up front and the deep cycle battery in the back. I would think an outboard would add a little to much weight. I believe I am going to build the rudder out of pvc as was pictured a few pages back. My only concern is how well it will stay on the boat or if it will come off easily.
This website has a neat little rudder in their "add on" page. It just slips over the transom. It's a little pricey, but it may give you some ideas if you fabricate one.
http://www.pondking.com/product/pond-king-ultra/
atomicchicken reply :
I'm curious how these little boats handle with small outboards speed wise. I know they still wouldn't be a rocket on the water but I'm wondering if a 2.5 HP outboard is worth it? I'm currently running a 50lb trolling motor and was thinking of maybe purchasing a small outboard for getting me from point A to B.
wnspain reply :
On 1/23/2016 at 5:48 AM, GonFishin said:I have my boat fairly well balanced with my and the tm up front and the deep cycle battery in the back. I would think an outboard would add a little to much weight. I believe I am going to build the rudder out of pvc as was pictured a few pages back. My only concern is how well it will stay on the boat or if it will come off easily.
A Bass Raider's CG is relatively centered (empty) so with you and the trolling motor up front it's difficult to imagine a battery that weighs enough to compensate. If you believe you need a rudder, chances are it's probably not that balanced as the sponsons (8 or 10') provide more than enough rudder effect when the boat is properly balanced. Try getting an extension for your TM that allows you to control it when sitting more aft. You may find that a rudder is not required.
Bozz reply :
What wnspain said...I have a rudder too but being able to center the weight is a big plus.
GonFishin reply :
When I am heading to wherever I want to fish I am usually in the middle of the boat. The handle on my tm extends out, but I still have to make small corrections to keep it traveling in a straight path. I will say that it doesn't extend as far as the picture above shows but I am relatively centered I feel. Maybe I do need to try a different position. When I first got the boat I had the tm on the back and did not like it at all.
jaaron01 reply :
I'll tell you the best/cheapest thing for a rudder is find an old trolling motor off CL. I bought and old one with the metal shaft for 15.00. Then I just cut off the head and the controller, flattened out one end with a hammer and added a piece of 1/8 sheet metal to it. It clamps on just like a trolling motor, and won't slip off when making a turn. And it's adjustable to different depths by tilting it up or down. I posted a pic several posts back. Cheap and easy, and definitely a must have.
Paintball reply :
On 8/28/2015 at 10:25 PM, Paintball said:Thanks for the reply. I am leaning more and more to the Pelican due to the information gathered from this thread. I appreciate all the information you all have provided here.
Now an owner of a Pelican Bass Raider 10E. Now if the weather will just clear up....
jitterbug127 reply :
Have any of you guys put rod holders on the back? I am thinking of drilling straight into the haul but not sure. I want to catfish with this boat at times
Bozz reply :
I did exactly what @jaaron01 said/did concerning the rudder thing. Can't remember if I posted images of what I did back in all these pages.
I found an old Minn Kota mount locally for $15. Had an old screwed up Black & Decker electric weed eater...never throw anything away! The shaft fit the Minn Kota mount perfectly. The weed eater was/is adjustable length by twisting the black threaded center section. The shaft had a 1/4" slot running up the one side view-able in the image. I ordered a 12" x 12" x 1/4" square section of ABS plastic from McMaster.com. One could use an ABS truck mudflap I guess. Slid the ABS in the slot, cut a few slots for stainless clamps to hold in place. This piece of ABS was a perfect place to mount a small Humminbird transducer also and the shaft of the old weed eater is hollow so I could run the cable right on up and out the top. You can see 2 little stainless nuts on the one image where the transducer is mounted.
Just one more way to do it.
rhoganjr reply :
Hey guys, new to this site and really like this post. Has anyone seen the new Bass Boy boat? I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger on it. It's the exact same as the bass baby, only no wheels and its two feet longer. I found it on directboats.com. What do you guys think?
GoCougs14 reply :
Looking for some ideas on reinforcing, and strengthening the plastic bottom of my pelican boat. I dont beleive its a bass raider. Its about 12 ft long but it is pelican brand. Its shaped a bit a bit differently with a flat bottom.
I got it for $200, so I figured its a good deal, but the thing has had some pretty deep scratches in it, and it looks to have been drug around a fair amount.
If one of the scratches were to open up or fracture, what would I be able to do to fix it. The first idea I had was to put a piece of sheet metal over it then use duct sealant to seal it up(worked in hvac for awhile haha).
When dragging it on the ground it mostly lays even, but most of the scratches are in the front corner and the back corner. Anything I can do to strengthen it up so I can drag it without fear of scratching it?
I know the best option would be to get a trailer, but its out of the option. And when Im loading it and unloading a 12' boat thats about 4' wide, it almost forsure has to get drug across concrete a little bit.
Thanks!
Pond fisher reply :
On 1/31/2016 at 2:39 AM, GoCougs14 said:Looking for some ideas on reinforcing, and strengthening the plastic bottom of my pelican boat. I dont beleive its a bass raider. Its about 12 ft long but it is pelican brand. Its shaped a bit a bit differently with a flat bottom.
I got it for $200, so I figured its a good deal, but the thing has had some pretty deep scratches in it, and it looks to have been drug around a fair amount.
If one of the scratches were to open up or fracture, what would I be able to do to fix it. The first idea I had was to put a piece of sheet metal over it then use duct sealant to seal it up(worked in hvac for awhile haha).
When dragging it on the ground it mostly lays even, but most of the scratches are in the front corner and the back corner. Anything I can do to strengthen it up so I can drag it without fear of scratching it?
I know the best option would be to get a trailer, but its out of the option. And when Im loading it and unloading a 12' boat thats about 4' wide, it almost forsure has to get drug across concrete a little bit.
Thanks!
I would use fiberglass cloth and resin and hardener. I have used it in the past and it worked very well.
GoCougs14 reply :
On 1/31/2016 at 9:27 AM, Pond fisher said:I would use fiberglass cloth and resin and hardener. I have used it in the past and it worked very well.
Excellent idea! Whats sort of stores would have that? And should I apply it to the whole bottom?
Thanks a bunch
S. Sass reply :
On 1/31/2016 at 10:19 AM, GoCougs14 said:Excellent idea! Whats sort of stores would have that? And should I apply it to the whole bottom?
Thanks a bunch
Most of the larger auto parts store carry the stuff if they have a paint and body section. O'Reilly Auto Parts, Autozone, and others all have the stuff. If you cant find it stop at a body shop and ask where they get their stuff locally.
johnkn reply :
If you attempt to cover the entire bottom of your boat in mat you will likely end up with an ugly, porous, lumpy, non-adhering, brittle POS mess. Suggest you spot fill any deep scratches with a product that is made for your poly hull, then invest in or fabricate set of removable strap-on wheels to transport the boat so that you don't continue to damage it. Google the strap-on wheels for ideas. An alternative to strap on wheels might be to install a sacrificial keel perhaps 1-2" wide on each side made of starboard, etc., attached with 5200 at the point where each pontoon is most likely to touch the ground. When dragging on the ground those would protect the hull. Good luck...
S. Sass reply :
On 2/1/2016 at 7:49 AM, johnkn said:If you attempt to cover the entire bottom of your boat in mat you will likely end up with an ugly, porous, lumpy, non-adhering, brittle POS mess. Suggest you spot fill any deep scratches with a product that is made for your poly hull, then invest in or fabricate set of removable strap-on wheels to transport the boat so that you don't continue to damage it. Google the strap-on wheels for ideas. An alternative to strap on wheels might be to install a sacrificial keel perhaps 1-2" wide on each side made of starboard, etc., attached with 5200 at the point where each pontoon is most likely to touch the ground. When dragging on the ground those would protect the hull. Good luck...
Not sure I agree with "likely end up with an ugly, porous, and lumpy". You know fiberglass is a sand-able, mold-able, material that if you do the work can be extremely pleasant to the eye. Not saying I agree with covering the entire bottom of the boat but ugly, porous, and lumpy is not completely true in all cases. How well it stays and weather or not it turns into a "brittle POS mess" I would not have a clue as I have not researched the repairs for his particular boat.
I own a Uncle Buck's Pond Prowler Boat that is made of ABS plastic. A quick search for abs plastic repair brought me About 1,380,000 results (0.77 seconds) according to Google. See what your material is and do some research.
This stuff here seems to be a possibility. http://www.marinetex.com/marinetexepoxyputty.html
johnkn reply :
I've worked with fiberglass many times dating back to 40 years ago when I repaired the cracked nose on my first Shelby GT500. Yes its mold able, going ...inside... A mold that is first shot with gelcoat. Based on the OPs comments it sounds like he likely doesn't have a lot of experience with fiberglass. In order to gain any strength on an outside repair he will need multiple layers of mat that will require lots of sanding (always fun getting glass residue on your face and skin) followed by spot filling pin holes followed by more sanding followed by either a quality paint or gelcoat made for under water contact. Then he hopes the repair doesn't crack and break off the first time the boat encounters a flex like these boats do. IMHO determine the hull material and spot fill the deep scratches with the appropriate filler, sand and spot paint to make it water tight, then construct either a strap on wheel set or add small keel sections to prevent further damage. Good luck to the OP.
GoCougs14 reply :
Thanks for the ideas guys. So coating the bottom is pretty much out of the picture then. Perhaps I overdid the "worn" hull. I mean it has alot of scraps but nothing appears to be too bad.
Usually Im loading/unloading it myself. The worst part of it is to get it from where I have to store it to the pickup is about 75ft of grass where I have to tilt it on to its side to fit through the gate.
I tend to park about 10ft up the ramp and then drag it the rest of the way, maybe Ill just try and get as close to the water as possible to reduce dragging.
Thank you guys again for your suggestions. If it would help I could get some pictures of the bottom and you guys could let me know if its anything I need to be worried about?
mnsmith25 reply :
Hey guys, great thread here, I have a new bass raider 10e about 2 weeks old and I'm loving his thread for ideas. I have my TM and FF mounted up front and wired together to plug in the port up front with the battery in the back.
I'm wondering if anyone tried putting in a carpeted wood floor (maybe 1/4" -1/2" plywood) and then securing 2 pedestal seats the wood floor? I think this might allow for a lot more room down the sides of the boat without the seat rails getting in the way. I've seen people build casting decks, but I don't want to be that high above the water. I like the original seat height level, I just wish it were more open to my left and right without the seat rails.
Would this work, or am I missing something?
atomicchicken reply :
On 2/2/2016 at 10:47 PM, mnsmith25 said:Hey guys, great thread here, I have a new bass raider 10e about 2 weeks old and I'm loving his thread for ideas. I have my TM and FF mounted up front and wired together to plug in the port up front with the battery in the back.
I'm wondering if anyone tried putting in a carpeted wood floor (maybe 1/4" -1/2" plywood) and then securing 2 pedestal seats the wood floor? I think this might allow for a lot more room down the sides of the boat without the seat rails getting in the way. I've seen people build casting decks, but I don't want to be that high above the water. I like the original seat height level, I just wish it were more open to my left and right without the seat rails.
Would this work, or am I missing something?
Look at page 79 of this thread. jaaron01 did just that. There are countless other examples in the thread of similar projects.
mnsmith25 reply :
On 2/3/2016 at 2:06 AM, atomicchicken said:
Look at page 79 of this thread. jaaron01 did just that. There are countless other examples in the thread of similar projects.
I did see that atomicchicken, but that was a different boat and was built up 3-4". I was just curious if anyone had done it for the bass raider, and with a flat bottom. I wondering if the seats would be stable enough and if there were any complications from it.
atomicchicken reply :
On 2/3/2016 at 8:24 AM, mnsmith25 said:I did see that atomicchicken, but that was a different boat and was built up 3-4". I was just curious if anyone had done it for the bass raider, and with a flat bottom. I wondering if the seats would be stable enough and if there were any complications from it.
ah sorry about that. Yeah there's a few here and there in this thread showing off pictures of the bass raider with carpet over plywood floors and pedestal seating. Makes for a nice upgrade.
givey reply :
Can you mount a normal TM to the front of these? I believe they have a mount but i dont know much about TMs and i am not sure if it has to be ine of those foot control jobs or not.
thx
wnspain reply :
What do mean by "normal" TM? Is a normal TM tiller controlled, or foot controlled, and is it a bow mount or transom mount? I have both foot and tiller controlled but both are transom mount.
BTW - Both work beautifully but the foot control is up front and the tiller is in the back. Do not always mount both depending on planned trip
givey reply :
I guess i am old enough to recall a time prior to foot control so i was talking about tiller controlled but i could not think of the correct term. Can a tier moint TM be mounted up front? It is less exspensive than trying to get a foot control unit as mu first one and i think from whatni have read it will be easier to control these little plastic pond boats.
thoughts?
wnspain reply :
You can mount a tiller controlled TM with a transom mount up front, no problem. You just have to unbolt the control unit and reposition it 180 from where it was before (assuming that your TM is designed to mount with tiller facing fwd).
jitterbug127 reply :
Still need advice on how mount rear rod holders
Tommy X reply :
On 2/6/2016 at 11:46 AM, jitterbug127 said:Still need advice on how mount rear rod holders
I'm using geartrac by Yakattack to mount my fish finder and rod holders. The model that bought was GTTL175-12 I plan on installing these with rivits. They are made for kayaks but I think it they should translate well to The PBR
jitterbug127 reply :
I put two flush mount ones on today. Had to drill through some of the foam in haul hope all is still good. I'll find out soon enough
johnkn reply :
Pics or it didn't happen. Lol Looking for anything to help make it through this winter.
tbone1993 reply :
On 2/2/2016 at 2:27 PM, GoCougs14 said:Thanks for the ideas guys. So coating the bottom is pretty much out of the picture then. Perhaps I overdid the "worn" hull. I mean it has alot of scraps but nothing appears to be too bad.
Usually Im loading/unloading it myself. The worst part of it is to get it from where I have to store it to the pickup is about 75ft of grass where I have to tilt it on to its side to fit through the gate.
I tend to park about 10ft up the ramp and then drag it the rest of the way, maybe Ill just try and get as close to the water as possible to reduce dragging.
Thank you guys again for your suggestions. If it would help I could get some pictures of the bottom and you guys could let me know if its anything I need to be worried about?
Try to epoxy these to the bottom. That should reduce drag a little bit.
GoCougs14 reply :
On 2/7/2016 at 1:14 PM, tbone1993 said:Try to epoxy these to the bottom. That should reduce drag a little bit.
what are those?
tbone1993 reply :
On 2/7/2016 at 1:33 PM, GoCougs14 said:what are those?
Runners for an otter sled. They'll get chewed up before the bottom of the boat. Also my buddies has used everything from bondo to JB weld to fix holes in their plastic boats.
jitterbug127 reply :
Sorry they are sideways. Made rudder, put in rod holders, paddle holders. Also risers
Tommy X reply :
On 2/6/2016 at 11:46 AM, jitterbug127 said:On 2/7/2016 at 4:40 AM, jitterbug127 said:I put two flush mount ones on today. Had to drill through some of the foam in haul hope all is still good. I'll find out soon enough
Did you notice how thick the plastic is? Just approximately. I need 1/4 inch for the rivets to hold the geartrac. So that would be the thickness of the geartrac plus the thickness of the plastic combined. I might need a aluminium plate to act as a spacer if the plastic is too thin. just curious
jitterbug127 reply :
I'd say it is thinner than a quarter inch
johnkn reply :
Come on guys, it's freezing here on the East Coast, everyone post a few pics of your boats to warm us up. LoL. Thanks.....
68dave reply :
New member here from Baltimore. I just bought myself a new Pelican 10e today to take with me on camping trips. I didn't even know these great lil boats existed until i saw one yesterday listed on CL, that one was sold. Luckily a local Dick's had one in stock. I was considering a fishing kayak but as soon as i started reading this thread last night i had to have one. And my wife didn't mind because the Pelican was hundreds cheaper than the kayak i was gonna buy. Plus unlike the kayak she can go out on the lakes with me now, sometimes lol. My wife and I camp at state parks with our little Casita camper and a lot of the state park campgrounds have stocked lakes. At these campgrounds i see a lot of kayaks & conoe's, i'm surprised i've never seen one of these lil boats before. Thanks for having me, i have a bunch more reading to do here! I have pics but for some reason i can't post'em.
johnkn reply :
Hi, I'm in southern Md. Curious of the price at Dicks. Did you have to pay any shipping charges? Shipping can sometimes be a killer, I believe these are manufactured in Canada. Thanks
Tommy X reply :
On 2/16/2016 at 8:24 AM, johnkn said:Hi, I'm in southern Md. Curious of the price at Dicks. Did you have to pay any shipping charges? Shipping can sometimes be a killer, I believe these are manufactured in Canada. Thanks
I bought mine at Dick's last spring. It was in stock but not on display. They have a spring boating sale in April. I got $100 off plus another 10% off for opening a credit card. The next month I got a $20 credit from their rewards program. Free tackle! If you can wait for that sale, it's a good deal.
johnkn reply :
Wondering though if shipping is factored into the in-store price. If I go to Dicks.com the boat is $699 plus $381 (gulp) shipping. What did you guys pay for boats that are in stock at the store? Thanks
68dave reply :
In store so no shipping charges.. Cost $699. I looked online for a better price but a lot of seller's were "out of stock" and the shipping charges killed the deal for the ones in stock. Only one Dick's in Md. had one in stock. Luckily it was only 20min drive for me so i ran up and bought it yesterday morning. Little over $200 for shipping if i would've purchased online.
Mosster47 reply :
Do you guys know of any bow mount TM's with a foot pedal that will fit on one of these? I thought the MotorGuide Bulldog would, but it appears to be a transom mount with a foot pedal.
I want to get the 8' Sun Dolphin, but if I can't do a bow mount I don't want one.
johnkn reply :
68Dave is your olive drab green on bottom and tan upper? Thanks
68dave reply :
On 2/17/2016 at 11:29 AM, johnkn said:68Dave is your olive drab green on bottom and tan upper? Thanks
Yes it is. For some reason i can't post pics.
wnspain reply :
On 2/17/2016 at 5:18 AM, Mosster47 said:Do you guys know of any bow mount TM's with a foot pedal that will fit on one of these? I thought the MotorGuide Bulldog would, but it appears to be a transom mount with a foot pedal.
I want to get the 8' Sun Dolphin, but if I can't do a bow mount I don't want one.
Transom mount and bow mount are two types of mounting systems for TMs, not positions on the boat. I have both MK in the back (transom mount) and a MG Bulldog in the front (transom mount) of my Pelican 10e. I can also position the MK on the front end (bow) using the transom mount by unbolting the control head and rotating it 180 thus allowing the tiller control to face aft instead of fwd like it would when mounted in the rear (stern). I'm pretty sure your Sun Dolphin has both fore and aft transom mount areas allowing the TM to be secured to the boat in either position.
trick worms reply :
Hey guys, is a pelican bass raider 10e big enough to fit 2 people and gear comfortably? Also, what pound thrust TM should I get and is there good rod storage?
Tommy X reply :
On 2/17/2016 at 11:52 PM, trick worms said:Hey guys, is a pelican bass raider 10e big enough to fit 2 people and gear comfortably? Also, what pound thrust TM should I get and is there good rod storage?
Yes it's big enough for 2 but use discretion on what you bring with you. The floor fills up fast with stuff and I am alone 90% of the time. I'm going to put some time and effort into modifying the boat to keep stuff off the floor. The rod storage kind of sucks. I'm not crazy about resting my rods unsecured on top of the pontoons 2" inches from going over the side.
For a motor I have a 45 lb Endura Max by Minnkota. It's a great motor and never even comes close to killing the 24 group battery. I go out from 5 to 7 hrs. If I could do it again I would go for the 55 lb and a little bigger battery but It's not really an issue. I'm very happy with my set up
johnkn reply :
I've found this style tackle box to work well with these boats. Stows under your seat and you can slide out drawers without moving the box. I agree with the concern of placing rods on the sides of the boat. I'm going to fashion some sort of retention device for both sides when I pick up my boat. Perhaps 2 strips of Velcro on each wide with a dab of 5200 in the middle to hold them down. The last thing I would want would be to have a $600 rod/reel disappear into the darkness. ;^)
68Dave, like this?
wnspain reply :
On 2/18/2016 at 1:46 AM, johnkn said:I'm going to fashion some sort of retention device for both sides when I pick up my boat. Perhaps 2 strips of Velcro on each wide with a dab of 5200 in the middle to hold them down. The last thing I would want would be to have a $600 rod/reel disappear into the darkness.
One quick solution is to keep a bungee cord handy to hold down the rods if you rest them on the sides. Hook one side under the rub rail and the other side to your seat support.
68dave reply :
On 2/18/2016 at 1:46 AM, johnkn said:I've found this style tackle box to work well with these boats. Stows under your seat and you can slide out drawers without moving the box. I agree with the concern of placing rods on the sides of the boat. I'm going to fashion some sort of retention device for both sides when I pick up my boat. Perhaps 2 strips of Velcro on each wide with a dab of 5200 in the middle to hold them down. The last thing I would want would be to have a $600 rod/reel disappear into the darkness. ;^)
68Dave, like this?
Yep, mine is exactly the same.
johnkn reply :
Greeting ready to pull the plug and get the boat. I only need a bow mounted trolling motor and want a MinnKota Endura Max 55. Do I want to 36" or 42" shaft? 36" correct?
thanks
68dave reply :
My Pelican 10e was just purchased and i haven't had it in the water yet, does anybody here row their pelican? If so what type/brand/lenght of oar do you recommend? After reading here a Minn Kota is in the future but i like the idea of rowing around the lakes where i camp for excercise. I wanna thank all you members for this thread and all the great info & pics, it's been very helpful for a new guy like me. Now back to reading this thread, i'm only on pg. 23!
S. Sass reply :
On 2/19/2016 at 6:05 AM, johnkn said:Greeting ready to pull the plug and get the boat. I only need a bow mounted trolling motor and want a MinnKota Endura Max 55. Do I want to 36" or 42" shaft? 36" correct?
thanks
36 is better for my boat. It's not a Pelican but it's the same style. Mine is the Uncle Buck's Pond Prowler.
johnkn reply :
On 2/19/2016 at 8:16 AM, 68dave said:My Pelican 10e was just purchased and i haven't had it in the water yet, does anybody here row their pelican? If so what type/brand/lenght of oar do you recommend? After reading here a Minn Kota is in the future but i like the idea of rowing around the lakes where i camp for excercise. I wanna thank all you members for this thread and all the great info & pics, it's been very helpful for a new guy like me. Now back to reading this thread, i'm only on pg. 23!
These boats don't make the best row boats due to their width, hull configuration, and lack of any side oar lock provision. I guess if you wanted to row you would want a single, long, double blade oar/paddle like you would use in a large Kayak.
On 2/19/2016 at 8:22 AM, S. Sass said:36 is better for my boat. It's not a Pelican but it's the same style. Mine is the Uncle Buck's Pond Prowler.
thank you...
jitterbug127 reply :
I've put about double double what I paid for my boat into accessories this spring, but I think it should make it more "fishable" really ready for spring
I plAn on just using my tackle warehouse backpack this year. I don't carry lots of year in this boat either, due to limited spAce
Canam13 reply :
On 2/19/2016 at 9:05 AM, johnkn said:On 2/19/2016 at 9:05 AM, johnkn said:These boats don't make the best row boats due to their width, hull configuration, and lack of any side oar lock provision. I guess if you wanted to row you would want a single, long, double blade oar/paddle like you would use in a large Kayak.
thank you...
These boats don't make the best row boats due to their width, hull configuration, and lack of any side oar lock provision. I guess if you wanted to row you would want a single, long, double blade oar/paddle like you would use in a large Kayak.
thank you...
36"-40" TM with a Big Foot switch wired in, is a must, IMO.
Tommy X reply :
On 2/19/2016 at 6:25 PM, Canam13 said:36"-40" TM with a Big Foot switch wired in, is a must, IMO.
I plan on giving the double paddle thing a try this spring. We have a very nice lake near us that is a "no electric" lake. I will have to fashion a rudder though
WRIFRAF reply :
I did this last summer. I didn't buy the 10E so I was a little miffed as to how I'm going to get some light for some night fishing on this thing. So I took it apart. I ran the wires for lights, battery both front and back trolling motor plugs. I then put it back together with Butyl Tape and 3/8 rivets. I was able to put the plastic rail back on, however I had about an 8" shortage in the back, so I took a piece of rubber hose and put a slit down the middle and screwed it in.
68dave reply :
I put my new Pelican in the water today for the first time. My wife and i were both on it and we were surprised how stable it was. Can't wait to get it out and do some fishing this Spring. Nobody here warned me how much of a conversation piece this lil boat is, LOL. I have a clean chevelle & 65 coupe deville and a couple restored old 900 Kaw's so i'm used to getting attention at gas pumps and such but people swarmed me when i unloaded my boat out of my pick up at the boat ramp. I launched it at a community waterfront park and everybody came up to us asking questions about it. I liked the attention it got, I always enjoy meeting new people with similar interest. I bet this Spring i'll get more attention & compliments with this lil pelican than guys with $10,000-$20,000 dollar boats get.
Jon W reply :
hey guys,
Great thread! I am going to go out and buy a boat this weekend. I have both Academy and Rural King in driving distance. So here is my question. Is the 10ft Pelican $200 better than the 8ft Sun Dolphin. 90% of the time I will be solo. the wife and kid may join me the first time or 2, but as the novelty wears off, they will quit.
I could buy the Trolley Motor, Battery and Box for the $200 I could save.
Thoughts?
Jon
68dave reply :
I also considered the 8ft'er but after reading here the advantages of the 10ft'er and the possibility that my wife or a friend may go out with me i chose the 10ft'er.
wnspain reply :
Trust me when I say, 2 ' in this or any boat makes a huge difference. When considering the limited space it already has, the extra 2 feet is even more valuable!! 
Always buy the biggest boat you can afford...
johnkn reply :
I think the last thing you would want is to WISH you had purchased the 10' model. Good luck
Jon W reply :
Thanks!
I was leaning that way anyway. And now that i read that Dicks will price match, I don't have to drive an hour to Academy, that clinched the deal.
68dave reply :
On 2/23/2016 at 10:24 PM, Jon W said:Thanks!
I was leaning that way anyway. And now that i read that Dicks will price match, I don't have to drive an hour to Academy, that clinched the deal.
My local Dick's wouldn't price match for me because we don't have a Academy in this state.
Jon W reply :
Mine is in the same state. about 45ish miles north. so i hope they do, but if not, I will just drive up the road:0
68dave reply :
On 2/24/2016 at 9:53 AM, Jon W said:Mine is in the same state. about 45ish miles north. so i hope they do, but if not, I will just drive up the road:0
I'm sure they want to match the competition to get the sale. No Academy's here in Maryland so they aren't considered competition. Keep us posted.
I'm sure there is some members from Md, Va, and Pa on here. We should plan a plastic boat "Fishing meet" this upcoming Spring for a day of fishing. It would be cool to meet & fish with some fellow members.
Canam13 reply :
On 2/23/2016 at 10:14 AM, wnspain said:Trust me when I say, 2 ' in this or any boat makes a huge difference. When considering the limited space it already has, the extra 2 feet is even more valuable!!
Couldn't agree more!
good luck with the purchase - Jon
Canam13 reply :
On 2/18/2016 at 1:24 AM, Tommy X said:Yes it's big enough for 2 but use discretion on what you bring with you. The floor fills up fast with stuff and I am alone 90% of the time. I'm going to put some time and effort into modifying the boat to keep stuff off the floor. The rod storage kind of sucks. I'm not crazy about resting my rods unsecured on top of the pontoons 2" inches from going over the side.
For a motor I have a 45 lb Endura Max by Minnkota. It's a great motor and never even comes close to killing the 24 group battery. I go out from 5 to 7 hrs. If I could do it again I would go for the 55 lb and a little bigger battery but It's not really an issue. I'm very happy with my set up
I use standard bass boat deck rod tie downs and they work really well. Can tie down 4-5 rods per Side if I want to. I also installed them in spots down the rail, so when the seats are in and transporting the boat. They hold down the seat in place at highway speeds.
johnkn reply :
Looks good above.
How does everyone store your car keys, phone, wallet, etc. when in the boat? A small float bag tied to the boat? Thanks
S. Sass reply :
On 2/25/2016 at 12:35 PM, johnkn said:Looks good above.
How does everyone store your car keys, phone, wallet, etc. when in the boat? A small float bag tied to the boat? Thanks
Heck not me I have mine in my pockets. Well my phone I have in a ziplock but the rest is with me in my pockets.
Tommy X reply :
On 2/17/2016 at 11:52 PM, trick worms said:On 2/25/2016 at 6:38 AM, 68dave said:I'm sure they want to match the competition to get the sale. No Academy's here in Maryland so they aren't considered competition. Keep us posted.
I'm sure there is some members from Md, Va, and Pa on here. We should plan a plastic boat "Fishing meet" this upcoming Spring for a day of fishing. It would be cool to meet & fish with some fellow members.
I'm interested in doing that. I am in NJ
On 2/25/2016 at 8:56 AM, Canam13 said:I use standard bass boat deck rod tie downs and they work really well. Can tie down 4-5 rods per Side if I want to. I also installed them in spots down the rail, so when the seats are in and transporting the boat. They hold down the seat in place at highway speeds.
Looks great! Available at Bass Pro , I guess?
Grayman reply :
Just bought this BassTender 10'2. Had an 8' Pelican Bass Raider and after one trip my son said its too small for both of us. Considered a newer Predator but liked this older model Tender because of the space inside. Didn't like the pod felling of the Predator. I think its going to work out good. We are both not really big people so we should have plenty of room. Can't wait to try it out.
Canam13 reply :
On 2/26/2016 at 2:59 AM, Tommy X said:
Looks great! Available at Bass Pro , I guess?
yah BPS or Amazon, can't remember where I found them.
I would also be interested in getting together for a day of fishing with the raiders, sounds like fun.
On 2/26/2016 at 10:06 PM, Grayman said:Just bought this BassTender 10'2. Had an 8' Pelican Bass Raider and after one trip my son said its too small for both of us. Considered a newer Predator but liked this older model Tender because of the space inside. Didn't like the pod felling of the Predator. I think its going to work out good. We are both not really big people so we should have plenty of room. Can't wait to try it out.
Looks nice, good luck with it and have fun!
68dave reply :
I mentioned that fishing meet, lets plan something. Tommyx & Canam is interested. I'm also a member on a fiberglass camper forum, ATV forum and a Toyota 4x4 forum and we have planned meets for camping, ATV'ing our quads & 4x4'ing our trucks. It's a blast everytime.
Tommy X reply :
On 2/27/2016 at 7:58 AM, 68dave said:I mentioned that fishing meet, lets plan something. Tommyx & Canam is interested. I'm also a member on a fiberglass camper forum, ATV forum and a Toyota 4x4 forum and we have planned meets for camping, ATV'ing our quads & 4x4'ing our trucks. It's a blast everytime.
Check out Lake Redman in York Pa. That's pretty central to us, 290 acres. Looks good to me. http://traveltips.usatoday.com/fishing-seasons-lake-redman-pennsylvania-29898.html
68dave reply :
Sounds good to me! My wife and I hike there with our 2 dogs. Beautiful lake and park, and its right off of I-83 so its easy to find. I heard the fishing is good, I never fished there personally. Hopefully some more members chime in then we can agree on a day. I'm available any Sat or Sun.
68dave reply :
I just went to my local Dick's Sporting store where i recently purchased my Pelican for $699 with a pic on my phone of Academy's $599 advertised price of the same Pelican 10e. They refunded me the price difference. I'm a happy camper!
johnkn reply :
Does the Dicks by you have any more? I'm in Laplata 20646 and seems that I will need to drive at least to No. Va. I called my local store 3 weeks ago and they indicated they have no way to predict when boats will arrive in their store. Thanks
68dave reply :
On 2/28/2016 at 4:07 AM, johnkn said:Does the Dicks by you have any more? I'm in Laplata 20646 and seems that I will need to drive at least to No. Va. I called my local store 3 weeks ago and they indicated they have no way to predict when boats will arrive in their store. Thanks
John they have one that just arrived sitting on the shelf. Dick's in Bel Air off of rt. 24, not far from I-95
I saw it there on the shelf this afternoon. They also had a Sundolphin sitting up on the shelf next to the Pelican 10e. Take a pic of Academy's ad and take it with you for a $100 savings like i did today. You should join the fishing meet were planning.
Tommy X reply :
Nice weather on the east coast so I finished up some mods. Lowrance Elite 4 Chirp mounted on a Yakattack cellblok, carpeted floor, New Mossy Oak seat by Tempress Seating. Yakattack and the Tempress seat are made in the USA
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Canam13 reply :
On 2/29/2016 at 5:40 AM, Tommy X said:Nice weather on the east coast so I finished up some mods. Lowrance Elite 4 Chirp mounted on a Yakattack cellblok, carpeted floor, New Mossy Oak seat by Tempress Seating. Yakattack and the Tempress seat are made in the USA
Man, really looks great!
That Cellblock is a nice idea, very clean no wires. I think I'm mounting my new Helix5 SI- FF to a small ram mount and using the front right rod holder for a removable mounting system, since I fish from the front most of the time.
The floor is my next upgrade, Yours looks really good. Have any measurements I can start with? What thickness board did you use? Did it make the boat noticeably heavier, I load mine to the back of my truck so weight is always a concern.
Tommy X reply :
Man, really looks great!
That Cellblock is a nice idea, very clean no wires. I think I'm mounting my new Helix5 SI- FF to a small ram mount and using the front right rod holder for a removable mounting system, since I fish from the front most of the time.
The floor is my next upgrade, Yours looks really good. Have any measurements I can start with? What thickness board did you use? Did it make the boat noticeably heavier, I load mine to the back of my truck so weight is always a concern.
I used 1/2 ply total length is 103" X 20 1/2" and I cut the length in half so it's easy to take in an out. No its not much heavier. I use my truck bed too. I just bought a new Ram 4x4 which is 5 1/2 " higher then my old 98' Ram 2x4. That will make getting it in the back that much harder. I am by myself 95% of the time. I starting to think about keeping the 98' as my fishing truck. Its still runs great, it just looks like hell and has no AC. There's a lot to say about having a truck you don't give 2 hoots about scratching, getting hit by rock and gravel, or washing. My wife says the insurance is cheap, so why not keep it? Right?
Canam13 reply :
On 2/29/2016 at 8:57 AM, Tommy X said:Man, really looks great!
That Cellblock is a nice idea, very clean no wires. I think I'm mounting my new Helix5 SI- FF to a small ram mount and using the front right rod holder for a removable mounting system, since I fish from the front most of the time.
The floor is my next upgrade, Yours looks really good. Have any measurements I can start with? What thickness board did you use? Did it make the boat noticeably heavier, I load mine to the back of my truck so weight is always a concern.
I used 1/2 ply total length is 103" X 20 1/2" and I cut the length in half so it's easy to take in an out. No its not much heavier. I use my truck bed too. I just bought a new Ram 4x4 which is 5 1/2 " higher then my old 98' Ram 2x4. That will make getting it in the back that much harder. I am by myself 95% of the time. I starting to think about keeping the 98' as my fishing truck. Its still runs great, it just looks like hell and has no AC. There's a lot to say about having a truck you don't give 2 hoots about scratching, getting hit by rock and gravel, or washing. My wife says the insurance is cheap, so why not keep it? Right?
Yah it is nice to have a beater, especially if its a spare and you know some good spots off the beaten path to put the raider in. I ran across some small lakes that had steep access paths, so I carry two 2"x6"x10' boards with the tailgate hangers on them and slide the raider in and out on them....Much Easier!
Thanks for the measurements of the floor, maybe next month I can do that project. I'll post some pics after I give the raider a wash and prep her for the season.
Keep those pics coming everyone, great to see everyone's ideas and mods on their boats.
Paintball reply :
On 2/29/2016 at 5:40 AM, Tommy X said:Nice weather on the east coast so I finished up some mods. Lowrance Elite 4 Chirp mounted on a Yakattack cellblok, carpeted floor, New Mossy Oak seat by Tempress Seating. Yakattack and the Tempress seat are made in the USA
Tommy X,
Nice set up. Is that the 18 or 24" Transducer Mount?
Canam 13,
Like the rod storage set up. Will do the same with mine.
Thanks for all the great info and ideas everyone.
Tommy X reply :
On 3/1/2016 at 3:14 AM, Paintball said:Tommy X,
Nice set up. Is that the 18 or 24" Transducer Mount?
It came with the 18" piece which is nowhere near long enough. I grabbed about 3' of 1/2 alum round at work and put the 90 in it. After I mounted the cellblock to the boat I put it all together then cut the bar to size. it came to 28" total including the bend. I had to buy more black wire loom to cover the alum rod and to give it a finished look.
Paintball reply :
Tommy X,
Finish fooled me. Good job on the set up and thanks for the info.
lt21football reply :
Going to begin work on my casting deck soon. Couple questions for everyone and hopefully someone can give me some ideas. Did anyone make a casting deck (for the front) that works when two people are fishing? Also, has anyone explored the idea of making a deck that that extends the whole front of the boat width wise? Meaning the deck extends over the pontoons on each side? I think this is feasible and would provide more room for standing, but don't know where to anchor and how to go about it. Thanks guys.
johnkn reply :
Could you locate 2 large 'pins' under the platform that would drop into the front rod holders?
As you know, the further outside the boat's centerline you distribute your weight the less stable the boat becomes.
Here you go, though I'm not really sure of its value. Not a 10e but pretty close
lt21football reply :
On 3/3/2016 at 10:05 AM, johnkn said:Could you locate 2 large 'pins' under the platform that would drop into the front rod holders?
As you know, the further outside the boat's centerline you distribute your weight the less stable the boat becomes.
Here you go, though I'm not really sure of its value. Not a 10e but pretty close
I like that design a lot! Well done. Care to share dimensions and what exactly you used? Thanks!
Just saw the "Its not a 10e" comment. Nevermind! Looks great none the less.
BigSlab29 reply :
My dad and I are buying a pelican 8 on Sunday. Mainly to use for crappie fishing farm ponds and small strip cuts and lakes. I'm excited as this is my first boat. I've been reading some great tips on this thread. I think even though I'm a heavyweight guy that this boost is gonna be good enough for now for my dad and I. Is a 32lb thrust gonna push it good? Should I mount in the front with a rudder in the back?
Canam13 reply :
On 3/4/2016 at 10:40 PM, BigSlab29 said:My dad and I are buying a pelican 8 on Sunday. Mainly to use for crappie fishing farm ponds and small strip cuts and lakes. I'm excited as this is my first boat. I've been reading some great tips on this thread. I think even though I'm a heavyweight guy that this boost is gonna be good enough for now for my dad and I. Is a 32lb thrust gonna push it good? Should I mount in the front with a rudder in the back?
A 32 will move it along and you be able to cover smaller lakes no problem. Bigger lakes you would want to move up to a 45-55lb thrust. My TM is mounted up front with a rudder in the back. I find that's the best setup for me alone or with a partner.
Good luck with the boat, enjoy!
johnkn reply :
On 2/19/2016 at 8:16 AM, 68dave said:
On 3/4/2016 at 10:40 PM, BigSlab29 said:My dad and I are buying a pelican 8 on Sunday. Mainly to use for crappie fishing farm ponds and small strip cuts and lakes. I'm excited as this is my first boat. I've been reading some great tips on this thread. I think even though I'm a heavyweight guy that this boost is gonna be good enough for now for my dad and I. Is a 32lb thrust gonna push it good? Should I mount in the front with a rudder in the back?
2 ~big guys = 10 foot boat. good luck.
lt21football reply :
On 3/4/2016 at 11:24 PM, johnkn said:
What he said. If you have the funds, and the transportation means for a 10 foot boat, go with that one. You'll thank yourself later.
Tommy X reply :
On 3/4/2016 at 10:40 PM, BigSlab29 said:My dad and I are buying a pelican 8 on Sunday. Mainly to use for crappie fishing farm ponds and small strip cuts and lakes. I'm excited as this is my first boat. I've been reading some great tips on this thread. I think even though I'm a heavyweight guy that this boost is gonna be good enough for now for my dad and I. Is a 32lb thrust gonna push it good? Should I mount in the front with a rudder in the back?
Get the 10 footer or you might end up buying twice. I'm a big guy. 6'3" 250 and I thought the 8' was too small for me and I go by myself 95% of the time. Just my 2 cents
Fishes in trees reply :
Over the life of the boat, the price difference between the 10 footer and the 8 footer is insignificant. I used to have a pond boat, a 10' Water Buster. The handling differences between 1 and 2 people on the boat were significant. Go with the biggest trolling motor you can afford.
Sooner or later you will break the motor, or shear a prop pin or wrap so much line around the prop that it won't spin anymore, something. Be certain to have an alternate mode of propulsion - i.e. a paddle or a push pole, preferably both.
The primary reason that I got rid of my pond boat was that I'm getting older and not as agile as I one was - therefore I needed a more stable platform to fish out of. I got an 18' Lowe WF 180. It handles significantly different depending on if there is one or two people on board.
coachfozz reply :
I was going for the Pelican for the longest time. The one my buddy was going to sell, his nephew borrowed and destroyed it. I actually went with a Sea Eagle8. An inflatable the same size as the Pelicans and they hold 950 pounds which is an awesome thing. I wish there was a topic with this stuff on it, but I will post of picts of things I do with my boat on here if no one is against it.
68dave reply :
On 3/4/2016 at 10:50 PM, Canam13 said:A 32 will move it along and you be able to cover smaller lakes no problem. Bigger lakes you would want to move up to a 45-55lb thrust. My TM is mounted up front with a rudder in the back. I find that's the best setup for me alone or with a partner.
Good luck with the boat, enjoy!
I'm stealing your rudder design!
Tommy X reply :
On 3/5/2016 at 7:33 AM, coachfozz said:I was going for the Pelican for the longest time. The one my buddy was going to sell, his nephew borrowed and destroyed it. I actually went with a Sea Eagle8. An inflatable the same size as the Pelicans and they hold 950 pounds which is an awesome thing. I wish there was a topic with this stuff on it, but I will post of picts of things I do with my boat on here if no one is against it.
yeah, let's see it!
How did that punk manage to destroy a boat in one outing? lol
68dave reply :
I built myself a dolly today to haul my Pelican from the campsites to the lake. Wish i could post a pic here!
68dave reply :
I was able to post a pic!
johnkn reply :
Looks very good, should make it easy to move around.
Tommy X reply :
On 3/6/2016 at 7:22 AM, 68dave said:I built myself a dolly today to haul my Pelican from the campsites to the lake. Wish i could post a pic here!
NICE! I did more or less the same thing but yours looks more professional.
68dave reply :
I'm gonna buy some padding to install around the PVC to further protect the underside of my Pelican.
How do you like my bait/utility table? Probably only gonna use it on solo fishing trips.
I plan to mount a little RV type plastic drawer under the table.
Tommy X reply :
How do you like my bait/utility table? Probably only gonna use it on solo fishing trips.
I noticed that, yeah, pretty cool. You could mount a fish finder on that table as well
johnkn reply :
Don't forget your boat numbers and sticker.
68dave reply :
Yea I still have to register it. I have the sales receipt & certificate of origin, think that's all i'm gonna need for registration. I still have to purchase a TM and fab myself a rudder. I plan to mount some rod holders to my cooler. The tabletop is a USA made poly plastic cutting board. It's stain & crack resistant. Your right, table would be a good place for my fish finder. I'm trying to avoid having to drill holes into the boat itself but i see that a lot of people do it without any issues.
68dave reply :
We still planning a day at Lake Redman?
Tommy X reply :
On 3/7/2016 at 9:38 AM, 68dave said:Yea I still have to register it. I have the sales receipt & certificate of origin, think that's all i'm gonna need for registration. I still have to purchase a TM and fab myself a rudder. I plan to mount some rod holders to my cooler. The tabletop is a USA made poly plastic cutting board. It's stain & crack resistant. Your right, table would be a good place for my fish finder. I'm trying to avoid having to drill holes into the boat itself but i see that a lot of people do it without any issues.
On 3/7/2016 at 10:08 AM, 68dave said:We still planning a day at Lake Redman?
If I didn't have a problem registering the Pelican in NJ, no one should. (notorious ball busting state)
The rudder thing is up to you, I have had no trouble with the motor on the back, it tracks well. I watch the wind on the forecast, but I have had no issues in 12 to 15 mph winds. I still want to make a rudder to use on a no motor lakes and try a kayak paddle.
When my boat was new I was terrified to put a hole in it. I'm over it now. The plastic is thick on the top rail and by using the Tri Grip rivets from Yak gear to attach accessories, I have no fears at all that those things will pull out. It might even be overkill. I used marine sealant on them just to be sure they ended up water tight. My next project will be a shallow water anchor system but that's on hold because I need stuff for my truck right now.
I definitely want to do the Lake Redman thing. A Sunday would be best for me. I work nights so getting up at 3 on a Sat to be at Redman by 7 would be too much ( I get home at 1am). I plan on going out there Sat afternoon for fishing Sunday Morning. Mid May? Spawn should be in full swing, right?. We would also need to set a rain date.
Jon W reply :
Question for your guys who have made platforms or lined the bottom with plywood/carpet. Do you seal the plywood with anything before you carpet it? Or is the chance of it getting wet enough to matter really slim?
johnkn reply :
If it were me I would just purchase a sheet of pressure treated plywood and not worry about it again. Good luck.
johnkn reply :
I'm growing to really dislike Dick's Sporting goods. I've been trying to buy a Pelican at my local store since October with no luck. The people I speak with seem knowledgable and all state that they have no visibility to stock they will be receiving. If I order from Dicks.com there is a $381 shipping charge with 2-8 week shipping time, if I order it delivered to the store, they say shipping is about $50 less (same 2-8 weeks), vs zero shipping if it's in stock. My option is to drive to a store that shows 'limited' stock which is 50-70 miles one way. I don't care so much about the drive and will have to pull a trailer, but I would have to call first and ask if it's really there, if it's damaged in any way, etc., drive there and ...hope... what I was told is accurate. I envision a 3 hour round trip only to find out it really isn't there, they just accidently sold it, or that it's damaged. Geez.
wnspain reply :
On 3/9/2016 at 4:47 AM, johnkn said:If it were me I would just purchase a sheet of pressure treated plywood and not worry about it again. Good luck.
I would definitely NOT go with the pressure treated option. The reason I say this is because pressure treated plywood is made of softer woods to facilitate absorption of the chemicals used in the treatment. It is not only softer, but has more wood deficiencies than marine grade plywood, which is made of Douglas Fir. Also, the glues used are different, pressure treated is resin based and designed to retard mold and fungi while marine grade glues are waterproof and cured with high heat and pressure. Put any quality water sealer or varnish of your choice on it, just make sure it's compatible with the carpet glue that you're using.
68dave reply :
On 3/9/2016 at 5:11 AM, johnkn said:I'm growing to really dislike Dick's Sporting goods. I've been trying to buy a Pelican at my local store since October with no luck. The people I speak with seem knowledgable and all state that they have no visibility to stock they will be receiving. If I order from Dicks.com there is a $381 shipping charge with 2-8 week shipping time, if I order it delivered to the store, they say shipping is about $50 less (same 2-8 weeks), vs zero shipping if it's in stock. My option is to drive to a store that shows 'limited' stock which is 50-70 miles one way. I don't care so much about the drive and will have to pull a trailer, but I would have to call first and ask if it's really there, if it's damaged in any way, etc., drive there and ...hope... what I was told is accurate. I envision a 3 hour round trip only to find out it really isn't there, they just accidently sold it, or that it's damaged. Geez.
Dicks in Bel Air has one in stock. I saw it on the shelf 2 weeks ago. $599 if you take a pic of Academy's online ad, they price matched it for me after i purchased mine. $699 regular price. I dealt with a manager named Kevin.
Pics of the dolly i made. Built it out of a old trailer dolly, PVC pipe, SS hardware and zip ties. I wrapped the PVC with foam to help protect the bottom.
choppertime reply :
1st time posting...love my pelican bass raider 10e..my girlfriend and I are always out on some body of water in ohio..never a problem unless real windy or I set a treble hook in her leg one time..when I can post a pici will. I built a rod holder out of pvc 90's and cut straight pieces to make a square and installed a square piece of 1/2 inch plywood on top and got the Velcro rod holders with the rubberized holders can carry 8 rods if need be spinners an baitcasters. Good luck all with your boats they are great!
johnkn reply :
On 3/7/2016 at 9:15 AM, johnkn said:
Completely agree that fir-based marine plywood is far superior and appropriate for exposed, finished products. Given that its cost approaches $80-$90 per sheet vs pressure treated at $30, I somehow didn't think that the majority of folks here would see the value of the upgrade for a floor that is to be carpeted in a boat that most have paid $100-$600 for.
wnspain reply :
On 3/9/2016 at 10:18 AM, johnkn said:Completely agree that fir-based marine plywood is far superior and appropriate for exposed, finished products. Given that its cost approaches $80-$90 per sheet vs pressure treated at $30, I somehow didn't think that the majority of folks here would see the value of the upgrade for a floor that is to be carpeted in a boat that most have paid $100-$600 for.
That may be true but never under estimate the ability of a fisherman to spend some serious coin on our little hobby/obsession. I have seen plastic boats sporting micro power poles more than once 
.
johnkn reply :
LOL, yep, absolutely an obsession, we all tend to dream how to make them ours, and add our personal touches, that's a big part of the fun for many of us.
68dave reply :
John like i mentioned the Dick's where i bought my 10e has one in stock,(at least 2 weeks ago when i was there last they did, i saw it). It's about a 20 min. drive from my house if you like i could drive up there for you just to check that it's still there. When i called this store about purchasing mine the girl told me they showed one on their computer and took my # because she wanted to go out to the storage container and visually check that they did in fact have one in stock. She quickly called me back to inform me that they did have it in stock, i thought that was cool. I drove right up & bought it. When i was there a couple weeks ago they had one that just came in up on the shelf with a small Sundolphin. If i can assist in any way to help get you & this lil boat united just let me know.
johnkn reply :
Thank you Dave, I'll have to wait until next week as I'm headed north later this week for a date with some Steelhead.
Canam13 reply :
On 3/9/2016 at 9:39 AM, choppertime said:1st time posting...love my pelican bass raider 10e..my girlfriend and I are always out on some body of water in ohio..never a problem unless real windy or I set a treble hook in her leg one time..when I can post a pici will. I built a rod holder out of pvc 90's and cut straight pieces to make a square and installed a square piece of 1/2 inch plywood on top and got the Velcro rod holders with the rubberized holders can carry 8 rods if need be spinners an baitcasters. Good luck all with your boats they are great!
Welcome Chopper
Canam13 reply :
On 3/9/2016 at 7:01 AM, 68dave said:Dicks in Bel Air has one in stock. I saw it on the shelf 2 weeks ago. $599 if you take a pic of Academy's online ad, they price matched it for me after i purchased mine. $699 regular price. I dealt with a manager named Kevin.
Pics of the dolly i made. Built it out of a old trailer dolly, PVC pipe, SS hardware and zip ties. I wrapped the PVC with foam to help protect the bottom.
Dave, nice dolly! Going on my list of things to make this spring, floor is at the top of the list though.
Taking the raider( aka SS Minnow) out today,for the first time this season,can't wait. Bought a used 54lb TM for the front, need more speed! Lol. Also bought my first FF, hummingbird Helix 5 Si/GPS unit. So mostly a test day than a fishing day. I'll post some pics at the lake with the boat loaded.
lt21football reply :
On 3/10/2016 at 7:26 PM, Canam13 said:Dave, nice dolly! Going on my list of things to make this spring, floor is at the top of the list though.
Taking the raider( aka SS Minnow) out today,for the first time this season,can't wait. Bought a used 54lb TM for the front, need more speed! Lol. Also bought my first FF, hummingbird Helix 5 Si/GPS unit. So mostly a test day than a fishing day. I'll post some pics at the lake with the boat loaded.
Very jealous, I'll be cooped up in an office all day. Weather looks good for this weekend in SW Pa. I'll make my first trip out Saturday morning.
choppertime reply :
the field and stream in cranberry pa. seems to always have a couple of pelican bass raiders leaning on the wall in front of their building
68dave reply :
My uncle gave me this working but old TM yesterday. It's actually in good condition for its age. I Googled the model number but i couldn't find any info on it. Anybody know about this TM or where i can find some info online? Should i still buy a new Minn kota?
wnspain reply :
On 3/11/2016 at 11:04 AM, 68dave said:My uncle gave me this working but old TM yesterday. It's actually in good condition for its age. I Googled the model number but i couldn't find any info on it. Anybody know about this TM or where i can find some info online? Should i still buy a new Minn kota?
You can find parts for it on searspartsdirect. It shows an exploded view along with a list of available part, some have been discontinued. Click on the green text above.
benjyw44 reply :
Okay all... I'm close to buying a Bass Raider. I'm looking at the Minn Kota Endura Max 55/36. The only question I have is bow mount versus stern mount. I see advantages of each. It seems that the overwhelming majority of this thread prefers a bow mount with rudder over a stern mount. Can you share any specific experiences on why one is better than the other? Sure I can move it once it's on, but I'd rather mount it plus my Humminbird in the right location. Your experiences will help me make that decision. Thanks all!!!!
livemusic reply :
benjyw44, for the type fishing we do around here, casting to above water trees/stumps, bow mount is the only way to go. It pulls the boat instead of pushes and is more controllable. A rudder makes it even more so but I still feel I will have to have a spring-loaded rudder due to hitting underwater stumps occasionally. I saw someone, I think way back on this thread (last year) who built one but it was uber-expensive due to it being a sailboat rudder. But it was also very nice. I would love to have a less expensive alternative!
EDIT: BTW, I have an Endura 50 or 55 and it is also 36", I forget the exact model, and it pulls the boat plenty fast if I want to max out.
Tommy X reply :
On 3/11/2016 at 1:18 PM, benjyw44 said:Okay all... I'm close to buying a Bass Raider. I'm looking at the Minn Kota Endura Max 55/36. The only question I have is bow mount versus stern mount. I see advantages of each. It seems that the overwhelming majority of this thread prefers a bow mount with rudder over a stern mount. Can you share any specific experiences on why one is better than the other? Sure I can move it once it's on, but I'd rather mount it plus my Humminbird in the right location. Your experiences will help me make that decision. Thanks all!!!!
The Endura Max is great because your battery will last you a good 6-7 hour session with no problem. It's worth the extra 50 or 60 bucks for the Endura. I have the 45lb. I cruise with the motor on the back with no control issues whatsoever. A rudder is one less thing I need to drag along with me. I plan on picking up the Minnkota tiller extension so I can fish right in the middle of the boat and have a ton of room to stretch. Front or back mount? To each his own, I guess. From my experience and what I read here you are good either way.
fishcat reply :
I suggest mounting the trolling motor on the front. You will need to turn the head 180 degrees to get the handle facing you. Do this by removing one screw, turning it, and replacing the screw. I also use a tiller extension. I set the battery behind me. Because I cannot handle the weight of big batteries, I use a size 22 AGM battery from Cabelas (35 lbs vs. 70 or more). I have a 40 lb. thrust MK on the bow and it works great without a rudder in light winds. The shape of the pontoons help to keep the boat going in a straight line. More advise: run the motor below top speed whenever possible. On my 5-speed MK, the top speed draws double the amps as the #4 speed. The amp draw is like: 5, 10, 15, 20, 40. My battery never runs down in a day of fishing. I charge it with a 20 year old Sears 2-6 amp charger. Hope this helps.
livemusic reply :
On 3/11/2016 at 11:15 PM, fishcat said:...Because I cannot handle the weight of big batteries, I use a size 22 AGM battery from Cabelas (35 lbs vs. 70 or more)...
You made a good post, learned a thing or two in there.
FWIW, my Everstart Maxx 24DC battery weighs 46 lbs. I looked up Cabela's Advanced Anglers AGM Size 22 battery, which is the size you mentioned, and it weighs 39 lbs. I am surprised there is so little difference. Your post made me want to look for a lighter battery I could use for my little pond jumper boat. I wonder if there is one. The Cabela's battery I posted about is not much lighter and also not much smaller. My Everstart is 11x7x8 and the Cabelas is 9 x 5.5 x 9.25. So... hmmm... makes me wonder if the Cabela's is 'anything special.' From my limited knowledge perspective, it just looks a little smaller and lighter, plus I guess it is sealed, so, that is an advantage. I guess every little bit of weight helps but wonder if there is a smaller 12v battery that would power a troll motor for several hours like these do.
Hmmm... found this -- http://www.cabelas.com/product/Battery-Tender-Lithium-ATV-UTV-Battery/1941345.uts?productVariantId=4071870&srccode=cii_17588969&cpncode=44-152839745-2&WT.tsrc=PPC&WT.mc_id=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=04080990&rid=20 --
Does this type of battery work for troll motors? Probably not? If so, why not? TIA.
VoodooShot reply :
Academy sports.Madison Tn. Close to Nashville has the 10e for 549.99 I have a pic of it but it's to large to post.
I bought Mine 2 weeks ago . it was a hassle to get the origin slip from thier main office though.
VoodooShot reply :
Stallpepper reply :
Hi guys...I haven't posted on here since I bought my Bass Raider a couple of years ago. Been really enjoying in on my little bass pond.
My property is pretty remote, and I just pull my 10 ft BR up on the bank when I'm done and flip it over, taking the seats inside the camp to lock up when I leave. But I've started to get some poachers onto my property, and have had a few game cameras stolen, so now I'm starting to worry about leaving the boat sitting out by the pond.
It's about 300 ft from the camp, so it would be a hassle to bring it in and out all the time. I'm wondering if any of y'all have any ideas or experience with locking a BR up? If it had a through-hull scupper like a SUP, I could run a locking cable through and then around a tree, but I don't see any way to run a cable through my BR in a way that a thief couldn't easily defeat (like through the handles).
Of course, I understand that a motivated thief with time on their hands could get through anything I do. I'm just trying to make it harder. I have security cameras on it from a distance, and I don't think most people would want to spend much time in front of them.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
68dave reply :
On 3/12/2016 at 10:20 AM, VoodooShot said:Academy sports.Madison Tn. Close to Nashville has the 10e for 549.99 I have a pic of it but it's to large to post.
I bought Mine 2 weeks ago . it was a hassle to get the origin slip from thier main office though.
Certificate of Origin should be in the owner's manual, at least mine was.
68dave reply :
Anybody here build a rack out of PVC that fits in the bed of a pick up for transporting your Pelican? I tow a camper with my tacoma and i want to take my Pelican with me on camping trips but with the overhang of the 10ft boat in my 6ft bed it will interfere with my camper while towing. I'm thinking of building a PVC rack that i can set in the bed then set my boat on top and secure it all with ratchet straps to the factory cargo hooks that's mounted in the bed. When i'm not using the boat i can simply lift the rack out of the bed of my truck and store it in my garage with the boat. I don't want a bolt on metal type rack, i never liked the looks of those. I want something that's easily removable when i'm not transporting my boat.
wnspain reply :
If it were me, I'd extend the trailer tongue. 
BigSlab29 reply :
Took the new boat on a trial run last night with dad. 8 footer did ok. Obviously the 10 would've been more ideal but for the price I couldn't pass up the 8 footer. Came bare bones with no seats. We made 2 seats with milk crates, clamp on seat swivels and 2 fold down seats. Didn't have the battery or trolling motor on but I think we're gonna make it work.
68dave reply :
On 3/13/2016 at 8:02 PM, wnspain said:If it were me, I'd extend the trailer tongue.
It's a fairly new camper, i don't want to modify the tongue or frame. I'm sure that would void my warranty. I just found pics online of homemade PVC boat /kayak racks online that's made to fit in the bed of a truck. This is one.
Stallpepper reply :
I see where you're going with that now. At first glance it seems kinda high, but I guess not much higher than having kayaks on top of an SUV.
The only possible issue you might have with the back higher than the front would be in a very hard rain that flat surface will flow a lot of water onto your cab and windshield. But that's probably not a big issue and the improved aerodynamics might make it the way to go.
Good luck -- looks like you found your plans there.
68dave reply :
I've been reading online about PVC racks cracking at the joints causing the rack to fail. I couldn't live with myself if i caused a accident because my Pelican became airborne while driving down the highway. Now i'm looking to spend $300 on this aluminum TracRac from my local Home Depot. Anybody here use one of these to haul their boat?
johnkn reply :
Hi Dave, PVC is meant to pass fluids not be a structural component although some use it in moderation. So I drove 400 miles to Erie, pa for some Steelhead fishing, on Saturday I stopped by the Dicks store in Erie, zero 10e,s. Did not make it to the new Field and Steam store there. My local store virtually never has them. I'll be driving 65 miles to check another store this week. We,ll see what happens..,,.
Jon W reply :
Anyone had any experience with the Bass Hunter EX? It is 9'6 so almost as long as the pelican. Was going to get a new pelican, but found a great deal on the BH with trailer, Depth Finder, and TM for less then the new Pelican.
atomicchicken reply :
On 3/13/2016 at 12:14 PM, 68dave said:Anybody here build a rack out of PVC that fits in the bed of a pick up for transporting your Pelican? I tow a camper with my tacoma and i want to take my Pelican with me on camping trips but with the overhang of the 10ft boat in my 6ft bed it will interfere with my camper while towing. I'm thinking of building a PVC rack that i can set in the bed then set my boat on top and secure it all with ratchet straps to the factory cargo hooks that's mounted in the bed. When i'm not using the boat i can simply lift the rack out of the bed of my truck and store it in my garage with the boat. I don't want a bolt on metal type rack, i never liked the looks of those. I want something that's easily removable when i'm not transporting my boat.
When I tow my bumper-pull camper I also often times will have my bass raider 10e in the bed of my truck. What I did was built a cross member for the rear of the bed that has uprights that sit in the two rear post holes. This causes the rear of the boat to be raised enough to not interfere with the camper. I will jack-knife the trailer before the boat touches it! Works like a charm and it allows me to put down the trail gate to pack gear beneath the rear of the boat.
If needed I know I have a picture of the setup somewhere.
68dave reply :
On 3/15/2016 at 4:29 AM, atomicchicken said:When I tow my bumper-pull camper I also often times will have my bass raider 10e in the bed of my truck. What I did was built a cross member for the rear of the bed that has uprights that sit in the two rear post holes. This causes the rear of the boat to be raised enough to not interfere with the camper. I will jack-knife the trailer before the boat touches it! Works like a charm and it allows me to put down the trail gate to pack gear beneath the rear of the boat.
If needed I know I have a picture of the setup somewhere.
What size bed on your truck? my truck is a tacoma with the 6ft bed. This is a pic of my truck & camper. If possible post a pic of your set up, thanks. I'm planning on hooking my truck up to my camper to help determine the best method of transporting my boat while towing.
atomicchicken reply :
Yeah my trucks bed is 6 1/2'. I was prepared to bring it up higher if i had to. It's not going anywhere. Made from pressure treated wood. The crossmember is angled so that it mates with the bottom of the boat at the same angle. Like I said, It supports the boat with the tailgate down so I can load cargo under it.
68dave reply :
Thanks for the pic. I'm gonna hook up my trailer and measure to see how much clearance i have.
Tommy X reply :
On 3/14/2016 at 11:03 PM, Jon W said:Anyone had any experience with the Bass Hunter EX? It is 9'6 so almost as long as the pelican. Was going to get a new pelican, but found a great deal on the BH with trailer, Depth Finder, and TM for less then the new Pelican.
They get good reviews, if the hull is in good shape go for it. I know they have dry wells for valuables, so that's a plus.
here's a review
GonFishin reply :
On 3/4/2016 at 10:50 PM, Canam13 said:A 32 will move it along and you be able to cover smaller lakes no problem. Bigger lakes you would want to move up to a 45-55lb thrust. My TM is mounted up front with a rudder in the back. I find that's the best setup for me alone or with a partner.
Good luck with the boat, enjoy!
What did you use for the blade part? (Or whatever you call it) looks like wood. I used a piece of plexiglass and shattered most of it off today. Needing something more durable.
Canam13 reply :
On 3/17/2016 at 11:28 AM, GonFishin said:What did you use for the blade part? (Or whatever you call it) looks like wood. I used a piece of plexiglass and shattered most of it off today. Needing something more durable.
It's plexiglass, I believe 3/16 - 1/4" thick
Jon W reply :
Thanks TommyX
I did. Picked it up yesterday. No holes, was one spot that was already fixed very well. He had modded two drain plugs already. He had actually already put down plywood and instead of the sliding seats he installed perm 13 inch pedestals into the plywood. With two seats and the full thing it is kinda heavy, not sure if I like that, but I can always by the normal seat mounts if I don't like them once on the water. Once I get it washed up I will post some pics.
Tommy X reply :
On 3/17/2016 at 9:02 PM, Jon W said:Thanks TommyX
I did. Picked it up yesterday. No holes, was one spot that was already fixed very well. He had modded two drain plugs already. He had actually already put down plywood and instead of the sliding seats he installed perm 13 inch pedestals into the plywood. With two seats and the full thing it is kinda heavy, not sure if I like that, but I can always by the normal seat mounts if I don't like them once on the water. Once I get it washed up I will post some pics.
Check out this site for accessories. He has all the stuff you need to put the Hunter back to stock. I was going to buy the seat tracks for my Pelican but haven't yet. http://www.smallwatersports.com/
jitterbug127 reply :
I am looking at getting a trailer from. Harbor freight. They are like 40 of 42 inches wide. Online days pelican beam is 52...anyone used one of these harbor freight trailers.?
GoCougs14 reply :
Well Im definitely in need of some advice.
I have a 12' predator, which is similar to the bass raider. Anyways alot of the time Ive had to resort to dragging it, akd sure enough on the back end by the transdom theres a small 2" crack that is slowly filling up. I have no clue how to patch it it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
68dave reply :
On 3/19/2016 at 2:31 AM, jitterbug127 said:I am looking at getting a trailer from. Harbor freight. They are like 40 of 42 inches wide. Online days pelican beam is 52...anyone used one of these harbor freight trailers.?
I have no expeirence personally with these trailers but i've seen pics of them online used for transporting boats like ours. From what i've seen & read they seem to work good for these boats. One guy used a piece of plywood covered in indoor/outdoor carpeting as his deck for the trailer. He had eyelets bolted to each corner for securing the boat with ratchet straps. If i remember correctly he mentioned he had like only $300 invested into this trailer. It looked nice and fit the boat well.
On 3/19/2016 at 2:50 PM, GoCougs14 said:Well Im definitely in need of some advice.
I have a 12' predator, which is similar to the bass raider. Anyways alot of the time Ive had to resort to dragging it, akd sure enough on the back end by the transdom theres a small 2" crack that is slowly filling up. I have no clue how to patch it it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Take the time and read/search this thread. There is info here about "plastic welding" to fix holes/cracks.
Pond fisher reply :
On 1/31/2016 at 2:39 AM, GoCougs14 said:Looking for some ideas on reinforcing, and strengthening the plastic bottom of my pelican boat. I dont beleive its a bass raider. Its about 12 ft long but it is pelican brand. Its shaped a bit a bit differently with a flat bottom.
I got it for $200, so I figured its a good deal, but the thing has had some pretty deep scratches in it, and it looks to have been drug around a fair amount.
If one of the scratches were to open up or fracture, what would I be able to do to fix it. The first idea I had was to put a piece of sheet metal over it then use duct sealant to seal it up(worked in hvac for awhile haha).
When dragging it on the ground it mostly lays even, but most of the scratches are in the front corner and the back corner. Anything I can do to strengthen it up so I can drag it without fear of scratching it?
I know the best option would be to get a trailer, but its out of the option. And when Im loading it and unloading a 12' boat thats about 4' wide, it almost forsure has to get drug across concrete a little bit.
Thanks!
I would use fiberglass cloth and resin and hardener. I have used it in the past and it worked very well.
johnkn reply :
Pelican states that the Ram-x hulls can only be properly repaired by (poly/plastic) welding. I would question if even fiberglass resin would adhere long term, and it's pretty aggressive stuff.
GoCougs14 reply :
On 3/20/2016 at 12:13 PM, johnkn said:Pelican states that the Ram-x hulls can only be properly repaired by (poly/plastic) welding. I would question if even fiberglass resin would adhere long term, and it's pretty aggressive stuff.
Would this work?
http://m.harborfreight.com/welding/plastic-welders/80-watt-iron-plastic-welding-kit-60662.html
johnkn reply :
There's a review from February on that site saying that he used it to repair a Pelican boat and it worked well. Curious how he said that it has held up for a year yet he left the review last month. Good luck...
livemusic reply :
Does anyone know when stores might be apt to put a Pelican Bass Raider on sale?
Does anyone think that there is a 'superior' brand/model of this type boat? Is Pelican Bass Raider it? I have read this entire thread over a year's time (90% of it last year) and don't want to read the entire thread again! Thanks!
I have an old Bass Tracker and it works fine but if I could get a better design, maybe a little bit lighter, I would sell mine.
Tommy X reply :
On 3/21/2016 at 8:38 PM, livemusic said:Does anyone know when stores might be apt to put a Pelican Bass Raider on sale?
Does anyone think that there is a 'superior' brand/model of this type boat? Is Pelican Bass Raider it? I have read this entire thread over a year's time (90% of it last year) and don't want to read the entire thread again! Thanks!
I have an old Bass Tracker and it works fine but if I could get a better design, maybe a little bit lighter, I would sell mine.
Dick's always has a boating sale in the spring, I got $100 off mine during the sale, and they gave me another 10% off for opening a Dicks credit card. I believe that this sale was late April/early May
S. Sass reply :
I don't know if it's a "better" design but I have a the Pond Prowler they sell these at Bass Pro. IF they were going to be on sale I bet you just missed it. They did have a $100 kickback to open a Bass Pro CC though. Not sure there may be other deals.
68dave reply :
I have yet another question. I've read many pages here but haven't seen this mentioned. I have my 10e stored in my 1 car garage on top of my 4x4 atv's. I want to store it hanging from the cross beams of my steel carport above my pick up. Anybody here store their boat by hanging it? And if so how? Thanks.
livemusic reply :
On 3/23/2016 at 9:47 AM, 68dave said:I have yet another question. I've read many pages here but haven't seen this mentioned. I have my 10e stored in my 1 car garage on top of my 4x4 atv's. I want to store it hanging from the cross beams of my steel carport above my pick up. Anybody here store their boat by hanging it? And if so how? Thanks.
I have seen someone showcase a method of storing one in the air and I think it is in this thread but I have no idea what page, sorry.
Papa S reply :
Hi gang. I'm a new owner of a used Pond Prowler. I've read through most of this forum and it is fantastic. What a great community! What is everyone using as their anchor? Just wondering what type, what size and how everyone is storing it in their "tub" considering our limited space. Thanks for any help or comments (or pictures)
livemusic reply :
On 3/23/2016 at 4:26 PM, Papa S said:Hi gang. I'm a new owner of a used Pond Prowler. I've read through most of this forum and it is fantastic. What a great community! What is everyone using as their anchor? Just wondering what type, what size and how everyone is storing it in their "tub" considering our limited space. Thanks for any help or comments (or pictures)
There may be mentions in this thread, not sure, but there probably is somewhere on this forum... if you fish mostly shallow water, you can use a 'power pole' type of pole (except it's not powered, lol) that you push into the lake bottom and is secured to your boat. But you would be limited to pretty shallow water.
Canam13 reply :
On 3/23/2016 at 7:27 PM, livemusic said:There may be mentions in this thread, not sure, but there probably is somewhere on this forum... if you fish mostly shallow water, you can use a 'power pole' type of pole (except it's not powered, lol) that you push into the lake bottom and is secured to your boat. But you would be limited to pretty shallow water.
I personally use a 8lb, plastic coated mushroom anchor with 25ft of line for my 10e raider. I drilled/bolted/anchored 2 cleats into each of my seat frames and tie off the anchor to them. Never had a problem with the anchor slipping so far.
Google " DIY shallow anchor system" and you will get a lot of ideas of what people have used and how they made their systems. some pretty interesting ideas out there.
S. Sass reply :
Currently I use the mushroom anchor I think its a 8lb as well its the one like they sell at Walmart. I just tie it off to the factory mounted cleats currently. I did see someone I think way back in this thread who had Lift and Lock Anchor Control brackets on their boat. They had one in the front and one in back. I want to add these as I think it would make it way easier than leaning over while trying to pull the anchor up. I have had several times it had got caught up pretty good and was no fun to pull that hard at the edge of the boat. Also you don't have to bring the anchor actually into the boat making a mess. And having one on each end I think will be real nice to slow or stop the boat from turning on ya.
GonFishin reply :
On 3/19/2016 at 2:31 AM, jitterbug127 said:I am looking at getting a trailer from. Harbor freight. They are like 40 of 42 inches wide. Online days pelican beam is 52...anyone used one of these harbor freight trailers.?
I have one of these trailers and really like it. The one I got is 4 foot wide and 8 foot long and works great for my boat. I believe my boat is right at 4 foot wide on the top side but it seems to narrow towards the bottom of the "pontoons". However, my boat is older so the dimensions may not be the same as yours. The trailer pulls really well and is extremely light weight. It is a little tricky to back up since it is so short. I have considered putting a carpeted floor on it but if I'm using it strictly to haul my boat I figured what's the point. The boat sits on the cross rails just fine and I use ratchet straps to hold it down. I even mounted a Rubbermaid type box to the tongue area that holds my anchor and some other odds and ends.
Tommy X reply :
My last mod for a while. Rod holder/anchor basket. Now I just need the weather to cooperate with my sced, next Saturday is looking good. I have been just bank fishing for the last few weeks
GLK reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 1:00 AM, Tommy X said:My last mod for a while. Rod holder/anchor basket. Now I just need the weather to cooperate with my sced, next Saturday is looking good. I have been just bank fishing for the last few weeks
Nice mods.Looks like a really nice rig.
Vayned reply :
I've been looking at some on craigslist that I could take to small lakes that require electric only when I couldn't take out the Javelin, there is a 8ft and 10 ft. My bed in my ram 1500 is 5 1/2 ft long. Only thing I'm worried about is putting it in the bed by myself since I fish most by myself, do you think a trailer is necessary?
GLK reply :
A trailer for me but I'm not as young as I used to be
GonFishin reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 5:47 AM, Vayned said:I've been looking at some on craigslist that I could take to small lakes that require electric only when I couldn't take out the Javelin, there is a 8ft and 10 ft. My bed in my ram 1500 is 5 1/2 ft long. Only thing I'm worried about is putting it in the bed by myself since I fish most by myself, do you think a trailer is necessary?
I have an 8 ft boat and without the trolling motor attached or the battery in, it is incredibly light and you would have no issues putting it in and out of the bed of your truck by yourself. This is how I started out. I just found it a little time consuming waiting until I got to the water to put everything in, so I went ahead and bought a trailer.
Tommy X reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 5:47 AM, Vayned said:I've been looking at some on craigslist that I could take to small lakes that require electric only when I couldn't take out the Javelin, there is a 8ft and 10 ft. My bed in my ram 1500 is 5 1/2 ft long. Only thing I'm worried about is putting it in the bed by myself since I fish most by myself, do you think a trailer is necessary?
I have the 10' and hauled it by myself in my truck bed all last season. It was ok, but you'll have to make a dolly to roll it down to the water. Even if you're only moving it 10 feet or so, you want to avoid scraping it up. The only reason I want a trailer is so I would be able to hit 2 lakes in a day. I can't do that with this set up. I not doing two launches and two load ins from the back of the truck, no way.
I'm looking for a jet ski trailer right now. They seem a little hard to come by, because most have the d**n jet ski with it
livemusic reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 3:27 AM, GLK said:On 3/30/2016 at 1:00 AM, Tommy X said:My last mod for a while. Rod holder/anchor basket. Now I just need the weather to cooperate with my sced, next Saturday is looking good. I have been just bank fishing for the last few weeks
Nice mods.Looks like a really nice rig.
Do you plan on having this rod holder with the rods in the air in front of or behind you in the boat? Having them in the air would not work for me, we have too many trees in the water, but I'm curious, for more open lakes.
On 3/30/2016 at 5:47 AM, Vayned said:I've been looking at some on craigslist that I could take to small lakes that require electric only when I couldn't take out the Javelin, there is a 8ft and 10 ft. My bed in my ram 1500 is 5 1/2 ft long. Only thing I'm worried about is putting it in the bed by myself since I fish most by myself, do you think a trailer is necessary?
I am not exactly a strongman and I put mine in my truck by myself. But it isn't exactly a piece of cake. I get it done, though. Just pick up one corner end of it and slide it up to your tailgate. Then slide it over so it's square. Then pick up the back end and slide it in.
Tommy X reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 9:03 PM, livemusic said:Do you plan on having this rod holder with the rods in the air in front of or behind you in the boat? Having them in the air would not work for me, we have too many trees in the water, but I'm curious, for more open lakes.
I am not exactly a strongman and I put mine in my truck by myself. But it isn't exactly a piece of cake. I get it done, though. Just pick up one corner end of it and slide it up to your tailgate. Then slide it over so it's square. Then pick up the back end and slide it in.
The rod holder is mainly for transport. I'll lay them down in front of me while fishing.
I devised a rope and hook to hold the boat in place for when I bring the boat up onto the tailgate so it doesn't roll backwards while I get behind it to lift it up. I'll post a pic if it works.
The worst part of using the truck bed, is the various inclines you find near the water at different lakes. At some lakes the tailgate is 2 ft higher then it is in my flat driveway. Sometimes its just easier to face the lake with the cab and walk the boat around to the back for loading. I definitely want a GD trailer..lol
Tommy X reply :
I just started a new thread under The Bass boat forum. its called Bass Raider Meet Up. We are trying to get a mini bass boat meet up and fun tournament together in York Pa this May. If interested swing by the thread and post!
GLK reply :
On 3/3/2016 at 10:05 AM, johnkn said:Could you locate 2 large 'pins' under the platform that would drop into the front rod holders?
As you know, the further outside the boat's centerline you distribute your weight the less stable the boat becomes.
Here you go, though I'm not really sure of its value. Not a 10e but pretty close
Looks like an older Bass Hunter.Did you do the paint on it.? I have one that is 30 years old and thinking about doing some camouflage paint on it.
livemusic reply :
Motorguide makes a portable, foot-controlled trolling motor called Bulldog 54, it has 54 lbs thrust. I note that it has 5 speeds, so, does that mean it is not one of the new technology digital motors that provides much long run times due to a more efficient use of the battery? I think those are variable speed with infinite 'settings?'
Also, does anyone use one of these on a Bass Raider type boat? Is there room to put it in front of you so that you are not too cramped up?
I also note that this model has a 30 inch shaft. I figured it was 36". I hope 30" fits the Bass Raider okay.
I don't see one like this from Minn Kota.
Lastly, I have a Minn Kota Endura 50, transom mount. I use it fine on my pond jumper boat and also my jon boat. Does anyone know if there is a foot control gizmo that I can attach to this trolling motor? Seems I have seen one. If so, I wouldn't have to buy a Bulldog. (EDIT: I found it, it is called Troll King. I wonder if it works good!)
Let me know, thanks.
johnkn reply :
On 3/23/2016 at 10:26 AM, livemusic said:I have seen someone showcase a method of storing one in the air and I think it is in this thread but I have no idea what page, sorry.
Construct something like this. This one is available at Dick's sporting goods for $30 but is only rated at 100 lbs. You could use a small boat winch to operate it. I would construct a small flat wooden cradle wider than the boat width to go under the boat so that the straps don't squeeze the sides of the boat in over time. good luck.
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Harry53 reply :
Harbor freight has a bicycle lift kit for around 10 bucks that should work well for a bass raider.
johnkn reply :
I saw that lift and sure wouldn't want to hang a 150 lb boat or 250 lbs with battery, motor, etc. from it. It's designed for a 20 lb bike. especially with a car and/or people under it.
Jtrout reply :
Im about to buy one next weekend hopefully for 100 bucks with trolling motor and 2 seats
Advantage reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 3:27 AM, GLK said:Nice mods.Looks like a really nice rig.
What's the setup you have there for your fishfinder? (Who makes it and how much does it cost?)
Tommy X reply :
On 4/8/2016 at 10:40 AM, Advantage said:What's the setup you have there for your fishfinder? (Who makes it and how much does it cost?)
Its a Cellblock by Yak Attack with Ram mounts for the transducer and Lowrance. Like $140 all together, not counting FF and battery
JarHead_Jay reply :
On 3/23/2016 at 9:47 AM, 68dave said:I have yet another question. I've read many pages here but haven't seen this mentioned. I have my 10e stored in my 1 car garage on top of my 4x4 atv's. I want to store it hanging from the cross beams of my steel carport above my pick up. Anybody here store their boat by hanging it? And if so how? Thanks.
I recently hung my Pelican 12' Intruder from my carport which is just standard height. I used two bicycle hangers rated at 100 lbs each, the boat is listed at 127 lbs. Holds it just fine. I'd post pics but since I'm a noob I guess I can't.
therivermonster reply :
Hello all! This is my first post to the forum, but I've been visiting for a while. Recently I picked up a new Bass Raider from Dick's. Fresh off the show room floor we strapped her in the pickup and headed to the lake. It's a great little boat in it's stock configuration for sure, and very stable. The thing is, it's a great platform to be improved and the little boat is just begging for it...
The Bass Raider is small enough and light enough to load up into my pickup easily with two people.
After using the boat a few times with two people, gear and a 45lb thrust trolling motor in the back, we tried it in the front. The motor does work better in the front, but the tail likes to swing a lot more with the motor pulling instead of pushing. To resolve this issue, I scavenged an old trolling motor my brother gave me and made a rudder/keel of sorts like some of you have. I also used the bottom of the shaft to mount the transducer for my Humminbird Helix 7. I haven't used it yet, but it seems like it will work well.
With the rudder and transducer taken care of, it was time to figure out how to mount the sonar screen to the boat in a fashion that would be usable in a number of configurations without having to drill a bunch of holes in the boat. To accomplish this, I constructed a little table from PVC and wood from ideas in this thread. I haven't tried any of this out yet, but it looks like it will work well with one or two people in the boat. If it's just me in the boat, I'll have the little table up front. If I am with someone, the table works well in the middle of the boat so we can both use the table as well as see the sonar.
I added a second shelf on the bottom of the frame to hold the little gel cell battery and counter the leverage effect of the screen when it is leaned out. It seems to work well and keep some of the wires out of the way. It also adds some storage rigidity.
After I use the table a little bit, I'll get a better feel as to what I would like to add to it, like shelves, other storage, etc. Only then will I take the time to finish it with a bit of sanding and paint. When I get some of that done, I'll be sure to post the progress up here. Until then, happy fishing everyone, and thanks for having me.
-TRM
Canam13 reply :
On 4/13/2016 at 3:00 AM, therivermonster said:Hello all! This is my first post to the forum, but I've been visiting for a while. Recently I picked up a new Bass Raider from Dick's. Fresh off the show room floor we strapped her in the pickup and headed to the lake. It's a great little boat in it's stock configuration for sure, and very stable. The thing is, it's a great platform to be improved and the little boat is just begging for it...
The Bass Raider is small enough and light enough to load up into my pickup easily with two people.
After using the boat a few times with two people, gear and a 45lb thrust trolling motor in the back, we tried it in the front. The motor does work better in the front, but the tail likes to swing a lot more with the motor pulling instead of pushing. To resolve this issue, I scavenged an old trolling motor my brother gave me and made a rudder/keel of sorts like some of you have. I also used the bottom of the shaft to mount the transducer for my Humminbird Helix 7. I haven't used it yet, but it seems like it will work well.
With the rudder and transducer taken care of, it was time to figure out how to mount the sonar screen to the boat in a fashion that would be usable in a number of configurations without having to drill a bunch of holes in the boat. To accomplish this, I constructed a little table from PVC and wood from ideas in this thread. I haven't tried any of this out yet, but it looks like it will work well with one or two people in the boat. If it's just me in the boat, I'll have the little table up front. If I am with someone, the table works well in the middle of the boat so we can both use the table as well as see the sonar.
I added a second shelf on the bottom of the frame to hold the little gel cell battery and counter the leverage effect of the screen when it is leaned out. It seems to work well and keep some of the wires out of the way. It also adds some storage rigidity.
After I use the table a little bit, I'll get a better feel as to what I would like to add to it, like shelves, other storage, etc. Only then will I take the time to finish it with a bit of sanding and paint. When I get some of that done, I'll be sure to post the progress up here. Until then, happy fishing everyone, and thanks for having me.
-TRM
Welcome TRM, raider looks good and off to a good start with the mods. Have fun.
racedad reply :
New to the site and just brought home my new Raider. There is a ton of good info on mods here. Already spent twice on what I paid for the boat on accessories. Great forum!
johnkn reply :
For those who don't have a stocking store close by, Dicks has a $90 shipping special for the next week or so. Sure beats the $392.81 shipping they would normally charge me here in Maryland.
dman reply :
Therivermonster - great job....your going to love the rudder you made, makes a world of difference! I like your table, I have something similar for my fishfinder but always kept the little battery on the side storage area of the boat - its always in the way so im gonna see about adding that shelf.....I added measurement markings on my table so that I can quickly lay a fish down and measure it without having to get anything else out - but thats about all i've done to it haha
therivermonster reply :
dman, that's a great idea. I'm going to paint it all soon, and put a couple layers of clear on, so maybe I'll get a stick on piece of measuring tape, then clear over that.
I can't wait to try it all out, but it's still going to be a few weeks I'm afraid. I'm on call for work this week, and going after turkeys next weekend. I suppose I can't complain too much.
I'll post pics when I get the chance.
fishcat reply :
That all looks real good. I post some pics of my 8E soon.
Jtrout reply :
Im about to get one tomorrow from va and im in md do i need to register and get stickers for it? Or a boaters lisence? I've never owned any type of water craft
racedad reply :
On 4/16/2016 at 6:24 AM, Jtrout said:Im about to get one tomorrow from va and im in md do i need to register and get stickers for it? Or a boaters lisence? I've never owned any type of water craft
I'm not sure about MD, but VA requires registration if your running any type of motor. If your getting it from Dick's, be sure you insist to get statement of origin. This is required to get registered. I bought one this week and they tried to tell me the sticker on hull would suffice. NOT! Went to register and it was a no go. The Dicks I delt with removes all the paperwork from the boats and did not keep up with it. They ended up contacting Pelican in Canada and they had to re-produce the statement and emailed it to me within a couple hours. Still was a pain in the @$$.
Jtrout reply :
Im buying it from a private seller. What is a certificate of origin? Hes giving me a title for it
racedad reply :
On 4/16/2016 at 9:28 PM, Jtrout said:Im buying it from a private seller. What is a certificate of origin? Hes giving me a title for it
Certificate of origin is what you get with new boat. If your getting a title, you are good to go.
dman reply :
If this has already been covered, i apologize - didn't see it. Has anyone put one of these
Motorguide Bulldog Peak Thrust Foot Control Trolling Motor
on their Raider: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00269WC22/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2HESX0WY5KL3E&coliid=I2F4YUKFMZFTB4
I have an 8 footer so im not sure if there is enough room for it - that cable might get in the way of......everything. I need the foot pedal to be blue tooth!
Advantage reply :
I realize it's not a Pelican Bassraider but it is a 2 man boat. Got a good deal on the boat (Basshound 9.4) and have already upgraded the 28lb thrust TM to a 50lb thrust and have added a Lowrance Elite 4 HDI gps/graph to it. Gonna save up to buy the foot controlled bullfrog TM because I know I've missed some fish by having to jack with the TM.
racedad reply :
On 4/17/2016 at 6:32 PM, Advantage said:I realize it's not a Pelican Bassraider but it is a 2 man boat. Got a good deal on the boat (Basshound 9.4) and have already upgraded the 28lb thrust TM to a 50lb thrust and have added a Lowrance Elite 4 HDI gps/graph to it. Gonna save up to buy the foot controlled bullfrog TM because I know I've missed some fish by having to jack with the TM.
I like the lay out, looks as though it will be easy to mod.
Jtrout reply :
I got my bass raider last weekend and in maryland u have to get it registered and get stickers for it.. so what do i need to do? Take the title to the mva? Im not sure ive never owned a watercraft lol
racedad reply :
On 4/21/2016 at 11:41 PM, Jtrout said:I got my bass raider last weekend and in maryland u have to get it registered and get stickers for it.. so what do i need to do? Take the title to the mva? Im not sure ive never owned a watercraft ll
In VA. we have inland game and fisheries, but DMV will accept the nessesary paper work. They will want to see sales receipt, title and whatever documentation in addition in what MD requires for boats.
johnkn reply :
On 4/21/2016 at 11:41 PM, Jtrout said:I got my bass raider last weekend and in maryland u have to get it registered and get stickers for it.. so what do i need to do? Take the title to the mva? Im not sure ive never owned a watercraft lol
You need to go the the DNR office to register it. Google Maryland DNR. Good luck
therivermonster reply :
I have been trying to figure out how to make launching my Bass Raider easier. It's not tough to unload it from the pickup when I have another person with me, but it can be a pain to rig it all up on the shore. The primary drive for figuring out a better launch solution has been to make it possible to launch without dragging the boat when I fish alone, or with one of my kids.
I have a 10' utility trailer with a fold down ramp style tailgate, so I figured i'd give that a shot. I backed it down into the water, but then I had to deploy the ramp while in the water. Needless to say it worked well, but I got quite wet. To resolve this issue I added a 4' length of chain to both sides of the tailgate in order to suspend it off the ground. This way I'm able to pull into the launch area, drop the tailgate (just shy of being level with the deck of the trailer), pull the boat out a bit, rig it all up in the trailer, then back it into the water. It works like a dream, and I don't get wet at all. Just do the reverse for the take out.
Testing at home
At the lake
Now that that problem is finally solved, back to fishing.
I tried top water for a few hours with no success so I switched it up to a Ned Rig for the first time. I had a lot of bites, one LM spit it on a jump close to the boat, but I was able to land this monster. After trying this rig for the first time, I'm sold. Ned Rig when the bite is tough.
Happy and safe fishing, everyone.
Corey91 reply :
Well, after looking through the Comments in this post I thought the bass raider would be good for me and my wife, or me and our 4 year old daughter so I bought one a few days ago. I didn't know in Alabama u had to have a boating license just for a trolling motor, so I have to get the boat registered, get license and find a trolling motor lol it looks like it will be fun once I get it legally water ready. I tend to have a way to keep rods from falling off the sides and maybe some other stuff from this forum on it before I take it out too. What's the first things I should add? I'm thinking about a 40lb trolling motor, and that's about as far as I have got so far. Thanks in advance
Pond fisher reply :
Corey
I could be wrong, but, I don't think you have to have a boaters' license for a trolling motor powered craft. I would go to a 45 to 55 on your trolling motor.
Ken
racedad reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 5:28 AM, Corey91 said:Well, after looking through the Comments in this post I thought the bass raider would be good for me and my wife, or me and our 4 year old daughter so I bought one a few days ago. I didn't know in Alabama u had to have a boating license just for a trolling motor, so I have to get the boat registered, get license and find a trolling motor lol it looks like it will be fun once I get it legally water ready. I tend to have a way to keep rods from falling off the sides and maybe some other stuff from this forum on it before I take it out too. What's the first things I should add? I'm thinking about a 40lb trolling motor, and that's about as far as I have got so far. Thanks in advance
In Virginia anything under a 10hp is not required a licensed operator. I would definitely go with a 55lb TM. I have the Minn Kota enduramax and can fish all day with a single battery with using only 3/4 of its capacity.
Advantage reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 8:01 AM, racedad said:In Virginia anything under a 10hp is not required a licensed operator. I would definitely go with a 55lb TM. I have the Minn Kota enduramax and can fish all day with a single battery with using only 3/4 of its capacity.
I've got a 50lb thrust Minnkota on my 2 man and with 2 people and gear and 2 batteries it pushes us at almost 3.5mph. Haven't checked yet at how fast it'll go with just me and my gear and batteries yet but would guess it'd go close to 5mph. Only thing that drives me crazy is it's hand control and know I've missed a few fish messing with it while fighting the wind. Soon as I can I'm going to get Motorguide's Bulldog 54. It's a 54lb thrust transom mount with foot control. That'll be sweet!
On 4/26/2016 at 8:35 AM, Advantage said:I've got a 50lb thrust Minnkota on my 2 man and with 2 people and gear and 2 batteries it pushes us at almost 3.5mph. Haven't checked yet at how fast it'll go with just me and my gear and batteries yet but would guess it'd go close to 5mph. Only thing that drives me crazy is it's hand control and know I've missed a few fish messing with it while fighting the wind. Soon as I can I'm going to get Motorguide's Bulldog 54. It's a 54lb thrust transom mount with foot control. That'll be sweet!
And in KS (correct me if I'm wrong Clayton Westgate, lol) if a boat is under 16 ft and not powered by a gas engine it doesn't have to be registered.
GLK reply :
Kansas even electric have to be registered
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 8:35 AM, Advantage said:And in KS (correct me if I'm wrong Clayton, lol) if a boat is under 16 ft and not powered by a gas engine it doesn't have to be registered.
@Advantage it still has to be registered. I think kayaks, canoes, and rafts are the only exceptions and they still have to have stickers at some of our lakes (JOCO, Wabaunsee, Wyco).
Corey91 reply :
Unfortunately in Alabama it's worded "powered by motor" it does not specify gas or electric so I am assuming you have to havea license with any motor. I will check into it a little more bc it would be awesome if I didn't have to. I'd be one step closer to getting out on it. Thanks for the comments, I am now looking for a bigger trolling motor then what I had found.
livemusic reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 12:11 AM, therivermonster said:I have been trying to figure out how to make launching my Bass Raider easier. It's not tough to unload it from the pickup when I have another person with me, but it can be a pain to rig it all up on the shore. The primary drive for figuring out a better launch solution has been to make it possible to launch without dragging the boat when I fish alone, or with one of my kids.
I have a 10' utility trailer with a fold down ramp style tailgate, so I figured i'd give that a shot. I backed it down into the water, but then I had to deploy the ramp while in the water. Needless to say it worked well, but I got quite wet. To resolve this issue I added a 4' length of chain to both sides of the tailgate in order to suspend it off the ground. This way I'm able to pull into the launch area, drop the tailgate (just shy of being level with the deck of the trailer), pull the boat out a bit, rig it all up in the trailer, then back it into the water. It works like a dream, and I don't get wet at all. Just do the reverse for the take out.
Testing at home
At the lake
Now that that problem is finally solved, back to fishing.
I tried top water for a few hours with no success so I switched it up to a Ned Rig for the first time. I had a lot of bites, one LM spit it on a jump close to the boat, but I was able to land this monster. After trying this rig for the first time, I'm sold. Ned Rig when the bite is tough.
Happy and safe fishing, everyone.
Say, I have a trailer like that. Did you have to do anything with the wheel hubs, or change them out to Buddy bearings or such? Do you submerge the wheels and not worry?
On 3/30/2016 at 11:01 PM, Tommy X said:The rod holder is mainly for transport. I'll lay them down in front of me while fishing.
I devised a rope and hook to hold the boat in place for when I bring the boat up onto the tailgate so it doesn't roll backwards while I get behind it to lift it up. I'll post a pic if it works.
The worst part of using the truck bed, is the various inclines you find near the water at different lakes. At some lakes the tailgate is 2 ft higher then it is in my flat driveway. Sometimes its just easier to face the lake with the cab and walk the boat around to the back for loading. I definitely want a GD trailer..lol
Can you post a pic of the rope/hook or did it not work?
livemusic reply :
On 4/4/2016 at 11:56 PM, livemusic said:Motorguide makes a portable, foot-controlled trolling motor called Bulldog 54, it has 54 lbs thrust. I note that it has 5 speeds, so, does that mean it is not one of the new technology digital motors that provides much long run times due to a more efficient use of the battery? I think those are variable speed with infinite 'settings?'
Also, does anyone use one of these on a Bass Raider type boat? Is there room to put it in front of you so that you are not too cramped up?
I also note that this model has a 30 inch shaft. I figured it was 36". I hope 30" fits the Bass Raider okay.
I don't see one like this from Minn Kota.
I posted the above three weeks ago but I don't recall seeing anyone answer. Anyone got any comments on the questions asked above about the Bulldog motor?
Lastly, a friend recently bought a Bass Raider 10e and bought a 30lb thrust motor along with it. I told him I would strongly recommend a 40-50lb thrust motor. The 30lb thrust motor he has is a Motor Guide, and it does have a nice exendable handle, but it has a 30" shaft... that worries me (versus 36") and also, the 30lb thrust worries me. If I were going to spend on a new boat and all that it requires to rig it up, I would rather have more thrust. Seems to me that when you are ready to head to a new area on the lake or back to the dock, the extra thrust equates to speed, and that's important. What do you guys think? However, I told him it will work, just not ideal IMO.
Also, I understand keeping costs down but one could buy a digital 50-55lb thrust motor for not a whole lot much more ($150 more?), and the battery life might be longer on a charge? Please let me know if you think it's a big mistake to buy a 30lb thrust, he might still be able to take it back?
Okiefisher29 reply :
Wow, just read all 88 pages of this awesome forum.
Just picked up a new to me BassHound10.2(sundolphin)off of Facebook less than 30 days ago. I really love all the mods you all have done.
Attached a pic of my steal, paid 200 including a trailer.!!
need some tips from those of you with trailers. How are you loading your boat on the trailer when you are by yourself? It took me over 40 minutes to get it positioned right on my trailer. With my TM on the front, I can't seem to get enough speed to get it up on the trailer far enough to winch it down. Obviously if I was with someone, they could just throw me a rope and pull me up. Any tips??
GLK reply :
That is quite a steal
livemusic reply :
On 4/28/2016 at 1:28 AM, Okiefisher29 said:Wow, just read all 88 pages of this awesome forum.
Just picked up a new to me BassHound10.2(sundolphin)off of Facebook less than 30 days ago. I really love all the mods you all have done.
Attached a pic of my steal, paid 200 including a trailer.!!
need some tips from those of you with trailers. How are you loading your boat on the trailer when you are by yourself? It took me over 40 minutes to get it positioned right on my trailer. With my TM on the front, I can't seem to get enough speed to get it up on the trailer far enough to winch it down. Obviously if I was with someone, they could just throw me a rope and pull me up. Any tips??
Buy some rubber boots/waders. If it's warm, no concern.
Beach the boat next to the trailer. Get out. Attach your winch line to the front of the boat. Then push the boat out, but hold a rope also attached to the front. When you push it out, aim it so that it will be going out into the lake but with the bow/stern axis generally lined up with your trailer. When it is as close to the trailer axis as possible, pull it onto the trailer straight as you can. Then winch it up.
Your purchase is amazingly good. Why can't I ever find boat deals that good!
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 4/28/2016 at 1:43 AM, livemusic said:Buy some rubber boots/waders. If it's warm, no concern.
Beach the boat next to the trailer. Get out. Attach your winch line to the front of the boat. Then push the boat out, but hold a rope also attached to the front. When you push it out, aim it so that it will be going out into the lake but with the bow/stern axis generally lined up with your trailer. When it is as close to the trailer axis as possible, pull it onto the trailer straight as you can. Then winch it up.
Your purchase is amazingly good. Why can't I ever find boat deals that good!
Great tip, thank you!
yes, I almost felt bad for the deal I got...but they could've said No. Got the boat, trailer, 28# thrust MK, battery, FF and battery charger!!!
Plan to add a rudder, some rod holders and eventually a MG bulldog trolling motor
livemusic reply :
On 4/28/2016 at 2:20 AM, Okiefisher29 said:Great tip, thank you!
yes, I almost felt bad for the deal I got...but they could've said No. Got the boat, trailer, 28# thrust MK, battery, FF and battery charger!!!
Plan to add a rudder, some rod holders and eventually a MG bulldog trolling motor
Well, the unbelievable deal just got more unbelievable.
You can actually skip the part about having another rope if your winch line is supple enough to use for both purposes.
Okiefisher29 reply :
Has anyone added a usb port to charge phones on their boat? don't remember seeing any posts on that. Do they make an adapter that plugs into the trolling motor receptacle?
Advantage reply :
On 4/28/2016 at 3:57 AM, Okiefisher29 said:Has anyone added a usb port to charge phones on their boat? don't remember seeing any posts on that. Do they make an adapter that plugs into the trolling motor receptacle?
I just make sure to fully charge my phone before I get on the water. And I'm usually to busy fishin to be on it much to drain the battery while on the water...with the exception of taking pics of big uns! Lol
On 4/28/2016 at 1:28 AM, Okiefisher29 said:Wow, just read all 88 pages of this awesome forum.
Just picked up a new to me BassHound10.2(sundolphin)off of Facebook less than 30 days ago. I really love all the mods you all have done.
Attached a pic of my steal, paid 200 including a trailer.!!
need some tips from those of you with trailers. How are you loading your boat on the trailer when you are by yourself? It took me over 40 minutes to get it positioned right on my trailer. With my TM on the front, I can't seem to get enough speed to get it up on the trailer far enough to winch it down. Obviously if I was with someone, they could just throw me a rope and pull me up. Any tips??
I have a Basshound 9.4. Until I can get the MG Bulldog I've got a 50lb thrust Minnkota but I just put it on the back transom instead of the front one. With 50lbs of thrust I just get a good run at the ramp or bank and when I'm get close I raise it up/tilt it up so it doesn't drag bottom when I beach it. Then I get out from the front, drag it up a few more feet, unload everything so it's lighter, lift and pull front onto my trailer, then go around to the back and push it rest of the way in, lift up gate/ramp and lock it then strap it down. Also, I put a 4'x8' sheet of plywood on the deck of the trailer since it's the metal grate type of trailer and laid two 4"x4"x8' on the plywood so they lay longwise in between the 3 chines of the trihull for support when I strap it down. I'm also going to get some carpet and hammertack it to the plywood and 4x4's so that the boat will slide/glide on even easier and without much friction/wear on the bottom of the boat.
Edited by Advantagetypos and added some content
Tommy X reply :
On 4/28/2016 at 3:57 AM, Okiefisher29 said:Has anyone added a usb port to charge phones on their boat? don't remember seeing any posts on that. Do they make an adapter that plugs into the trolling motor receptacle?
Here ya go.........http://www.amazon.com/Newport-Vessels-Trolling-Battery-Center/dp/B01AE2TG7G?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&ref_=s9_acsd_al_bw_c_x_5
MInnkota also make one like this with 2 cigarette lighter type power sources. You can get usb adapters for those at any convenience store. Its on my list for next years mods so I can power a go pro from it all day
livemusic reply :
On 4/28/2016 at 9:20 PM, Tommy X said:Here ya go.........http://www.amazon.com/Newport-Vessels-Trolling-Battery-Center/dp/B01AE2TG7G?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&ref_=s9_acsd_al_bw_c_x_5
MInnkota also make one like this with 2 cigarette lighter type power sources. You can get usb adapters for those at any convenience store. Its on my list for next years mods so I can power a go pro from it all day
Do you think the Minn Kota one is the better unit? It would have one 12v female for whatever, and another 12v female you could stick in a male 12v thingy that has 2 USB ports?
johnkn reply :
On 4/28/2016 at 1:28 AM, Okiefisher29 said:Wow, just read all 88 pages of this awesome forum.
Just picked up a new to me BassHound10.2(sundolphin)off of Facebook less than 30 days ago. I really love all the mods you all have done.
Attached a pic of my steal, paid 200 including a trailer.!!
need some tips from those of you with trailers. How are you loading your boat on the trailer when you are by yourself? It took me over 40 minutes to get it positioned right on my trailer. With my TM on the front, I can't seem to get enough speed to get it up on the trailer far enough to winch it down. Obviously if I was with someone, they could just throw me a rope and pull me up. Any tips??
Corey91 reply :
Got the boat registered today, will probably get license in the morning and a trolling motor Saturday. If it all works out I will be in the water this weekend, if so I will take a few pics. Thanks everyone for awesome ideas
Tommy X reply :
On 4/27/2016 at 9:37 PM, livemusic said:Say, I have a trailer like that. Did you have to do anything with the wheel hubs, or change them out to Buddy bearings or such? Do you submerge the wheels and not worry?
Can you post a pic of the rope/hook or did it not work?
It did not work, I am picking up my new load rite trailer next Wednesday. I was lucky the last time I took the boat out. Someone was there to give me a hand. the tailgate had to be close to 4 ft off the ground at the lake! That was it, I pleaded my case to the wife and started searching for a trailer. The owner of the trailer dealership was great. I gave him the dimensions of the bottom of the boat and a pic and they are configuring the trailer for the BR so it should be ready to fish when I pick it up. its the smallest jet ski trailer Load Rite makes. the 1,000 pound capacity PWC trailer
Camp Marine in Point Pleasant NJ
On 4/28/2016 at 11:34 PM, livemusic said:Do you think the Minn Kota one is the better unit? It would have one 12v female for whatever, and another 12v female you could stick in a male 12v thingy that has 2 USB ports?
I don't know which is better. I would just read some reviews and take the plunge, I guess
therivermonster reply :
On 4/27/2016 at 9:37 PM, livemusic said:Say, I have a trailer like that. Did you have to do anything with the wheel hubs, or change them out to Buddy bearings or such? Do you submerge the wheels and not worry?
Can you post a pic of the rope/hook or did it not work?
livemusic,
I didn't do anything with the wheel hubs, but now that you mention it, I should probably look into it. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
livemusic reply :
On 4/29/2016 at 10:21 PM, therivermonster said:livemusic,
I didn't do anything with the wheel hubs, but now that you mention it, I should probably look into it. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Look into 'buddy bearings.' That is what we always called them but I guess it should be 'bearing buddies,' lol.
http://www.bearingbuddy.com/
Corey91 reply :
Ok another question about trolling motor. I have found a motor guide r3 55lb TM brand new in the box for $100. Will a 36"shaft work fine for a 10ft bass raider?
livemusic reply :
On 4/30/2016 at 1:15 AM, Corey91 said:Ok another question about trolling motor. I have found a motor guide r3 55lb TM brand new in the box for $100. Will a 36"shaft work fine for a 10ft bass raider?
You guys sure find some good deals! I think it will work fine, it is what I use on my old Bass Tracker that is 9.5' long.
Corey91 reply :
On 4/30/2016 at 1:47 AM, livemusic said:You guys sure find some good deals! I think it will work fine, it is what I use on my old Bass Tracker that is 9.5' long.
The guy had it in Craigslist for $175 and I noticed he dropped the price twice this week so I text him and offered him $100. Turns out he just needed it out of his house lol Does anyone have any experience with motorguide r3 TM? I was going to go tomorrow and buy a Minn Kota at Academy, but $100 for this one brand new in the box seems like a great deal
Advantage reply :
On 4/30/2016 at 4:43 AM, Corey91 said:The guy had it in Craigslist for $175 and I noticed he dropped the price twice this week so I text him and offered him $100. Turns out he just needed it out of his house lol Does anyone have any experience with motorguide r3 TM? I was going to go tomorrow and buy a Minn Kota at Academy, but $100 for this one brand new in the box seems like a great deal
Motorguides are just as good as Minnkota, I've always preferred them to be honest. I do have a Minnkota now on my Basshound and it's a good TM too {got an even better deal on it than you did...a buddy of mine gave it to me for free). It's hand control and a pain sometimes to miss fish cuz I'm jacking with it instead of setting the hook...but it was free! And will suffice until I can get a foot control Motorguide Bulldog.
Okiefisher29 reply :
I was just at Bass Pro Shop and I can't believe they don't sell any rudders for these types of boats. Maybe I overlooked them. I'd rather just buy one than make one.
wnspain reply :
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 5/2/2016 at 1:58 AM, wnspain said:
Is this more or less effective than having a separate rudder on the rear? I run my TM on the front.
wnspain reply :
On 5/2/2016 at 4:33 AM, Okiefisher29 said:Is this more or less effective than having a separate rudder on the rear? I run my TM on the front.
Could not tell you as I don't run a rudder with my 10e even when using the TM up front. The foot control cables are long enough to allow me to sit aft so the boat balances well and the sponsons provide more than enough rudder effect.
Corey91 reply :
Ok guys, those of u running a 55lb thrust TM. What battery do u recommend? I got the motorguide r3 55 for $100 and now all I need now is the battery ?
Advantage reply :
On 5/3/2016 at 9:42 AM, Corey91 said:Ok guys, those of u running a 55lb thrust TM. What battery do u recommend? I got the motorguide r3 55 for $100 and now all I need now is the battery ?
I'd spend $100+ on a good deep cycle.
wnspain reply :
^^ This, but don't forget to recharge battery when done using it. Letting it sit with a partial charge is one sure way to quickly reduce run time.
therivermonster reply :
I took the Bass Raider out this past Saturday with my brother for an early morning trip. The top water action was awesome. We ended up fishing from 6:00 AM till 4:00 PM.
The Raider ready for action.
I used to fish a tone as a kid. My family owns a little cabin on this lake so I spent a lot of time exploring and fishing out here growing up, but I haven't been fishing for many years until recently. I have also never targeted bass specifically, so this has been quite an adventure. The Bass Raider is making it a lot of fun as well.
I started the morning out throwing a black buzz bait. I had never caught a fish on that bait, or the pole or reel that I was using. I had recently read about loosening the drag on your reel to help the reel last longer, so I did that after using the reel the last time (Curado). Well, I had forgot to tighten it up this morning.
The morning was quiet and beautiful. My brother was throwing a Rap, and I was tossing my buzz to docks and other cover on the shore. I gave my buzz a nice toss up next to rotting dock. Nothing. The spot looked it should be holding a fish seeing as it was on a bit of a point, so I tossed the lure again. Something was different this time; I couldn't get that buzz bait back to the surface. "Snagged", I thought. Darn. Then my pole began to shake a bit like it would if a fish were on, but it felt soft. I started reeling in a quickly as I could, but I wasn't pulling any line. I looked down at the spool on the Curado and it was going the wrong direction. Quickly I set the drag, then bam. The tip of the rod bent and the fight was on. I ended up pulling a nice 4 pounder which is my PB. He got the main hook as well as the trailer.
A little later I switched to a Hula Popper which is a lure I've never used. I killed on that bait, and it was a blast. I pulled this little guy which was my next biggest for the day.
It was a great day of fishing. We'll be headed out early this coming Saturday for some clear, deep lake smallie action.
Take care, everyone.
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 5/3/2016 at 11:30 PM, therivermonster said:I took the Bass Raider out this past Saturday with my brother for an early morning trip. The top water action was awesome. We ended up fishing from 6:00 AM till 4:00 PM.
The Raider ready for action.
I used to fish a tone as a kid. My family owns a little cabin on this lake so I spent a lot of time exploring and fishing out here growing up, but I haven't been fishing for many years until recently. I have also never targeted bass specifically, so this has been quite an adventure. The Bass Raider is making it a lot of fun as well.
I started the morning out throwing a black buzz bait. I had never caught a fish on that bait, or the pole or reel that I was using. I had recently read about loosening the drag on your reel to help the reel last longer, so I did that after using the reel the last time (Curado). Well, I had forgot to tighten it up this morning.
The morning was quiet and beautiful. My brother was throwing a Rap, and I was tossing my buzz to docks and other cover on the shore. I gave my buzz a nice toss up next to rotting dock. Nothing. The spot looked it should be holding a fish seeing as it was on a bit of a point, so I tossed the lure again. Something was different this time; I couldn't get that buzz bait back to the surface. "Snagged", I thought. Darn. Then my pole began to shake a bit like it would if a fish were on, but it felt soft. I started reeling in a quickly as I could, but I wasn't pulling any line. I looked down at the spool on the Curado and it was going the wrong direction. Quickly I set the drag, then bam. The tip of the rod bent and the fight was on. I ended up pulling a nice 4 pounder which is my PB. He got the main hook as well as the trailer.
A little later I switched to a Hula Popper which is a lure I've never used. I killed on that bait, and it was a blast. I pulled this little guy which was my next biggest for the day.
It was a great day of fishing. We'll be headed out early this coming Saturday for some clear, deep lake smallie action.
Take care, everyone.
Love me some hula popper action
GLK reply :
My first 5lb was on a Hula
Jon W reply :
Is there any rough guidelines on how long a battery will run a 30lb TM? I don't have a battery box with a meter yet, I have been out for well over 4 hours before, but I was thinking of an all day trip Sat. I won't run it all the time, but anyone have any experience. Dual Purpose Exide battery from Academy.
fishcat reply :
I recently did some research and came up with these guidelines on battery drawdown: My 40 lb. thrust Minn Kota Endura draws about 5, 10, 15, 20, 40 amps on speeds 1-5. So my little 55 amp-hour battery will run about 3 hours at speed #4 before it falls well below 12 volts. A key thing is try not to run at max speed because that draws double the amps of the next lower speed. To make long runs, I start up slowly, work up to speed #5, then back off to #4. Otherwise, I run at 1 or 2 when fishing anyway, so the battery lasts the entire day. Be sure to charge it up when you get home. Also, use a fuse (carry extras!) or a re-settable circuit breaker on the red wire. The fuse will pop if you get stuck in weeds or rocks.
racedad reply :
Does anyone know which through hull drain set up to use? I seen it on one of the pages where it was done, but no detail on what one works.
It's for the Pelican 10e
wnspain reply :
On 5/10/2016 at 6:37 AM, racedad said:Does anyone know which through hull drain set up to use? I seen it on one of the pages where it was done, but no detail on what one works.
It's for the Pelican 10e
Your 10e doesn't have drain plugs for each sponson? My particular year/model has 1 ea. located at the bow right under the seem/rub rail.
Okiefisher29 reply :
Tell me everything yall know about trailer wheel bearings. I'm trying to inspect this trailer I got with my Bass Hound 10.2. Have no clue how to tell if the are good, bad, the wrong kind, etc. Thanks in advance.
racedad reply :
On 5/10/2016 at 7:18 PM, wnspain said:Your 10e doesn't have drain plugs for each sponson? My particular year/model has 1 ea. located at the bow right under the seem/rub rail.
It does, but what I am asking has nothing to do with draining the sponson. It has everything to do with draining the hull. They used to come with drains. Just a pain to turn the boat on its side to get the water out of seating area.
wnspain reply :
On 5/10/2016 at 10:13 PM, racedad said:It does, but what I am asking has nothing to do with draining the sponson. It has everything to do with draining the hull. They used to come with drains. Just a pain to turn the boat on its side to get the water out of seating area.
Never seen one with a drain for the "hull". Most people use a submersible pump to vacate water while in use, if not in use, then they just dump it out.
On 5/10/2016 at 8:43 PM, Okiefisher29 said:Tell me everything yall know about trailer wheel bearings. I'm trying to inspect this trailer I got with my Bass Hound 10.2. Have no clue how to tell if the are good, bad, the wrong kind, etc. Thanks in advance.
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 5/10/2016 at 10:38 PM, wnspain said:Never seen one with a drain for the "hull". Most people use a submersible pump to vacate water while in use, if not in use, then they just dump it out.
This was exactly what I was looking for! Much appreciated!
S. Sass reply :
On 5/10/2016 at 10:38 PM, wnspain said:Never seen one with a drain for the "hull". Most people use a submersible pump to vacate water while in use, if not in use, then they just dump it out.
Uncle Buck's Pond Prowler Boat 10ft' has a drain right in the center at the very back. At least mine does but its probably 10 to 12 years old. The new ones I dont know.
wnspain reply :
On 5/10/2016 at 11:53 PM, S. Sass said:Uncle Buck's Pond Prowler Boat 10ft' has a drain right in the center at the very back. At least mine does but its probably 10 to 12 years old. The new ones I dont know.
I think he was referring to the Pelican 10e which has never had drain plug for the hull that I know of. With the design of the 10e, I imagine it would be pretty difficult. 
etex reply :
I just bought a new Pelican Raider 10E this week with a trailer from Harbor Freight. Started working on putting a carpeted floor and a rudder on it today. Hope to get to the lake later tomorrow. Tried to load some pictures but they are all too large. Help?
jtipton91 reply :
Got my rudder and transducer all ready to go this weekend. Love this little boat.
etex reply :
How do you load pictures? All of mine taken with the Iphone showed to be too large yet I see these large photos and even movies loaded.
Advantage reply :
On 5/15/2016 at 8:55 PM, etex said:How do you load pictures? All of mine taken with the Iphone showed to be too large yet I see these large photos and even movies loaded.
Do you have Facebook? I've been uploading them to FB (which condenses then down I guess) then I pull the pic up on FB that I want and save it to my phone then upload it to Bassresource. All pics I've done that with have successfully uploaded.
etex reply :
Thanks Advantage! My wife has Facebook. I may have to try that.
etex reply :
Has any one tried the Command Adhesive strip hangers in their boat for hold downs as opposed to drilling holes in the boat? I tried some today for holding the paddle under the seat against the side of the boat under the chair. Got the carpet done on the floor and the rudder made now just have to finish the electrical for the TM. I think I will get one of those Minn Kota battery boxes for the back hook up that has the circuit breakers and a couple of 12v sockets for lights or phone charge.
wnspain reply :
Tried those adhesive strips a while back, no success.
Advantage reply :
On 5/16/2016 at 2:17 AM, etex said:Has any one tried the Command Adhesive strip hangers in their boat for hold downs as opposed to drilling holes in the boat? I tried some today for holding the paddle under the seat against the side of the boat under the chair. Got the carpet done on the floor and the rudder made now just have to finish the electrical for the TM. I think I will get one of those Minn Kota battery boxes for the back hook up that has the circuit breakers and a couple of 12v sockets for lights or phone charge.
Try Gorilla Glue, I used it to install some clips for running the transducer cable along the gunwale so it's up and out of the way.
racedad reply :
On 5/16/2016 at 2:17 AM, etex said:Has any one tried the Command Adhesive strip hangers in their boat for hold downs as opposed to drilling holes in the boat? I tried some today for holding the paddle under the seat against the side of the boat under the chair. Got the carpet done on the floor and the rudder made now just have to finish the electrical for the TM. I think I will get one of those Minn Kota battery boxes for the back hook up that has the circuit breakers and a couple of 12v sockets for lights or phone charge.
I wouldn't sweat drilling a few holes. I installed a couple rod holders with zero problems. I through bolted them with a sleeve to prevent collapsing the side wall and sealed it with a dab of Marine sealant.
wnspain reply :
On 5/16/2016 at 3:33 AM, racedad said:I wouldn't sweat drilling a few holes. I installed a couple rod holders with zero problems. I through bolted them with a sleeve to prevent collapsing the side wall and sealed it with a dab of Marine sealant.
The seam underneath the rub rail is not sealed (stapled actually) and that why the sponsons can take in water. IMO, any small mounting holes you put above the seam are pretty insignificant but some don't like to do it for some reason.
Tommy X reply :
Don't sweat drilling holes and attaching accessories. Use rivits made for kayaks and some sealant, no worries.
I just picked up this sweet trailer for $500. It's a 2012 and was only used once. It came with a jet ski and the guy I bought it from had a double trailer that he used for his family. He needed it out of his garage. I should have the bunks for the BR done by the and of the week.
Vernon Utsinger reply :
On 3/29/2016 at 11:36 AM, GonFishin said:I have one of these trailers and really like it. The one I got is 4 foot wide and 8 foot long and works great for my boat. I believe my boat is right at 4 foot wide on the top side but it seems to narrow towards the bottom of the "pontoons". However, my boat is older so the dimensions may not be the same as yours. The trailer pulls really well and is extremely light weight. It is a little tricky to back up since it is so short. I have considered putting a carpeted floor on it but if I'm using it strictly to haul my boat I figured what's the point. The boat sits on the cross rails just fine and I use ratchet straps to hold it down. I even mounted a Rubbermaid type box to the tongue area that holds my anchor and some other odds and ends.
Just joined and first post. Interested in getting into one of these and concerned about trailer with short tongue as you described.
Could a receiver extension possibly reduce the difficulty in backing?
Do you have a 10ft boat and if so does the extra length interfere with balance or turning?
Are you using the fold up trailer from HF?
therivermonster reply :
I was able to get out early this past weekend for a a few hours of fishing on my usual lake again. It was nice a dark when I got started. I'm not sure how yall night fisherman do it when it's dark. How do you see where you're throwing?
Anyhow, I promised pictures of the little table once it was finished, so here it is in all of its orange glory.
I started the morning off using a buzz bait which caught one 8 incher, and had a few more hits. From there it was on to the poppers which took one fish, then the X Rap. The morning bite had gone much slower than I had expected.
I had ordered some Keitech stuff from Tackle Warehouse a couple weeks back, but had yet to try any of it, so I figured with the bite slow anyhow, I might as well try it out. I used one of their weedless jig heads with a 4" Swing Impact swim bait. You can see the jig head and the bait on the table above. Once it was rigged up, I gave it a quick little throw off the boat to see what all the fuss was about with the action of this bait. Well, I guess the fuss is warranted because this first cast which wasn't even meant to catch a fish was slammed on the drop by a nice little LM.
After this it was fish after fish on this rig. I also rigged up one of the Keitech Easy Shiners which did catch fish, but not nearly as many as the Swing Impact.
Two things are for sure. These Keitech swim baits do catch fish, and they are fragile. I think the most fish I was able to catch on one of the 4" Swing Impacts was four of five. I've ordered some Mend It glue to patch them back up once they get torn up. We'll see how it works.
At any rate, it was a good day of fishing with lots of fish around.
Alright friends. Until next time...
etex reply :
Do those of you using a fish finder have it connected to the main battery that also runs your TM or do you use a separate battery? I had thought of running wires from the main battery in the back under the flooring that I installed to the front for the fish finder but I noticed a number of folks using separate batteries for the fish finder.
Thanks,
therivermonster reply :
I use a separate small gel cell battery. Using the same battery can cause interference with your graph as far as I understand.
racedad reply :
On 5/17/2016 at 1:51 AM, etex said:Do those of you using a fish finder have it connected to the main battery that also runs your TM or do you use a separate battery? I had thought of running wires from the main battery in the back under the flooring that I installed to the front for the fish finder but I noticed a number of folks using separate batteries for the fish finder.
Thanks,
I also use a separate 9 mah battery enclosed in a water proof Pelican case.
Advantage reply :
On 5/17/2016 at 1:51 AM, etex said:Do those of you using a fish finder have it connected to the main battery that also runs your TM or do you use a separate battery? I had thought of running wires from the main battery in the back under the flooring that I installed to the front for the fish finder but I noticed a number of folks using separate batteries for the fish finder.
Thanks,
I use separate battery.
benjyw44 reply :
Okay Bass Raider owners... I'm a newb to the boat and will be picking one up in the next week or so. Can you please help me understand the best way to mount accessories to the body? It's a plastic boat and I'm afraid to strip out screws by just turning them into the plastic. Maybe it's thicker and more durable than I think it really is. I've heard rivets are great options, but I've seen the accessories that Tfultz100 has mounted on his boat (drink holders, oar clamps, electronic mounts, etc) and they look like they're all just screwed in? I don't understand how a rivet could fit into screw holes without it ending up a loose mount it the head isn't as big as the intended screw. What kinds of screws are being used? If you'd recommend rivets, can you let me know what to buy? I'm sorry for the lack of general knowledge. I just want to make sure I end up with sturdy accessories while avoiding turning my new toy into a Frankenstein mash up. Thanks all..,
therivermonster reply :
Hi benjy,
Ideally you'll want to put as few holes in your boat as possible, however there are techniques that work better than others when you do have to make holes. I would suggest researching kayak rigging options. You'll find the techniques and hardware necessary to get the job done by looking that stuff up.
Take care,
-Blane
Advantage reply :
Added some mods to the Basshound 9.4. (And named her as well! Lol)
Added clips (Gorilla glued) to hold the tranducer cable for my Lowrance Elite 4x HDI out of the way and an 18" rod ruler (cut down from 30") that I got at Academy Sports for $0.68.
Not pictured: a $1.00 foam pool noodle to the front bar of the 5'×8' trailer I use to haul it around, since it's only an 8' trailer and the boat is 9'4" and the trihull keels would rub on the bar during transit when strapped down.
etex reply :
Looks good! I see you have used some of the adhesive command strips as well. Did you use Gorilla Glue on those as well or just the adhesive strips for the hooks?
Advantage reply :
On 5/19/2016 at 9:12 PM, etex said:Looks good! I see you have used some of the adhesive command strips as well. Did you use Gorilla Glue on those as well or just the adhesive strips for the hooks?
Just the Gorilla Glue, threw away the command strips.
etex reply :
Advantage you posted some really good pictures. Would you detail how you were able to post such large pictures. Every time I try to post one it says I exceed the 157kb max.
Thanks,
etex reply :
http://s78.photobucket.com/user/Ghale_2006/media/Mobile Uploads/image_1.jpeg.html?o=0 Here is the rudder that I made this weekend. The rudder is made of 3 license plates bolted to a 1" piece of PVC which is attached by pipe clamps to a painted 2X4. The other 2X4 was added to take some of the flex out of the rear transom.
Advantage reply :
On 5/20/2016 at 3:59 AM, etex said:Advantage you posted some really good pictures. Would you detail how you were able to post such large pictures. Every time I try to post one it says I exceed the 157kb max.
Thanks,
I upload my pics to Facebook, then I pull up that pic in Facebook, then save it back to my phone. Then use those pics to upload here...Facebook automatically compresses the pics to smaller size so they upload on here no problem.
Vernon Utsinger reply :
On 5/20/2016 at 4:35 AM, etex said:http://s78.photobucket.com/user/Ghale_2006/media/Mobile Uploads/image_1.jpeg.html?o=0 Here is the rudder that I made this weekend. The rudder is made of 3 license plates bolted to a 1" piece of PVC which is attached by pipe clamps to a painted 2X4. The other 2X4 was added to take some of the flex out of the rear transom.
Does it get any simpler than this? Real innovative etex. What you learn on here is priceless!!
What did you use for the bracket over the transom?
etex reply :
It was a metal hanger that I had in the shop and it hangs down about 3" over the transom. I was going to use another license plate (bent) until I found the hanger. Simple and very inexpensive to make. It just cost me the pipe clamps.
etex reply :
I added a floor in my 10E this weekend as well. Went to Lowes and bought 3' of green indoor/outdoor carpet and had them cut it in 22" and 14" strips. Since it was 6' wide it made it easier for me to cover the plywood. I decided to put my floor in sections with the 2 inside sections being 35"X 20.5". I then had a section on each end that was 13"X 20.5". This will make it easier for me to remove and or run wires underneath the floor. This leaves about a 4" opening at each end of the boat in case I need to remove water.
I have decided to mount my fish finder using metal flange screwed into the 3/8" floor and screw a 12" pipe nipple into it. I will then screw another pipe flange into a block of 4X6 and screw the top of the nipple into it. I will then screw the fish finder mount into the top of the block. All of these will be painted prior to protect from moisture. I think this will be pretty stable and I have avoided any holes drilled into the boat.
Vernon Utsinger reply :
Looks nice.
Is the inside width for the floor 20.5 inches and what is the total inside length of the 10e for the floor?
What is a good thickness for stability for the floor?
I don't have boat or trailer yet but these are things I can do before they get here. Can't get boat until I get trailer and assemble it. I'm going to start on deck with 4x8 plywood cut lengthwise and might as well get floor cut at same time.
I have several pieces of metal and aluminum pipe and 2 license plates laying around so just need a way to mount them over the transom. I want to be able to raise or lower or remove the rudder so plan on using adjustable collar from TM. Afraid it might get knocked off launching/recovering.
etex reply :
Yes the inside is 20.5" wide and I think the overall on the floor length was 104" I left a gap at each end for convenience of removal and possible water removal if necessary. I used 3/8" and it seems sturdy just standing on it. I haven't fished it yet but others had used 3/8 or 1/4.
My rudder is easy to remove and install as well since it just slips over the transom. I didn't make it very long as I wanted to avoid hitting any stumps. I will probably remove when loading and unloading from trailer. My boat came with one of the Harbor Freight fold up trailers that the guy had mounted 2X10 runners covered in carpet for a base.
Vernon Utsinger reply :
For those with experience with rudders on Pelican 10e or similar boat:
What is the best depth for the rudder measured from the transom to the lowest point on the rudder?
With a 36" shaft on the TM does 36" depth on the rudder seem right?
racedad reply :
Went the not so creative route of making a rudder. Bought a $12 oar and $25 bracket.
etex reply :
Nice racedad, where did you find the $25 bracket?
racedad reply :
On 5/22/2016 at 4:43 AM, etex said:Nice racedad, where did you find the $25 bracket?
eBay. I tried to find a cheap used trolling motor on Craig's list and convert it, but couldn't find one any less than $50 bucks.
Advantage reply :
Got the 2 manner out on a good little lake Saturday and got a 21 lb bag on best 5. (4.75, 4.5, 4.5, 4.2, & 3.5)
(Missing pic of one of the 4.5's...literally forgot to get a pic after weighing it)
Jon W reply :
Anyone painted theirs yet? Any ideas on the best paint to use? My Bass hunters is a dingy black/grey two tone, and really want to make it sharp.
wnspain reply :
On 5/23/2016 at 8:06 PM, Advantage said:Got the 2 manner out on a good little lake Saturday and got a 21 lb bag on best 5. (4.75, 4.5, 4.5, 4.2, & 3.5)
Outstanding bag! Congrats
etex reply :
Really glad you got to thoroughly enjoy your boat this past weekend! All really nice fish!
Vayned reply :
I went to Field and Stream to compare the Pelican Bass Raider and the Sun Dolphin, I was kind of blown away by the size of the Bass Raider., I haven't seen one up close, might be leaning towards the Dolphin just because of launching and recovering with me being by myself.
dman reply :
On 5/24/2016 at 8:45 AM, Vayned said:I went to Field and Stream to compare the Pelican Bass Raider and the Sun Dolphin, I was kind of blown away by the size of the Bass Raider., I haven't seen one up close, might be leaning towards the Dolphin just because of launching and recovering with me being by myself.
If it is just for you, did you look at the Raider 8? Thats what i use and have no issues launching and no problem with space. I can see the 10 being an issue though for sure if i was alone.
WillyD reply :
Brand new to this forum. Like what I have read. I have a Predator Bass Raider 10E that I have been working on the past several months trying to get it ready to go. Lots of good ideas on this forum and have appreciated all the advice and suggestions that I have read.
alex800 reply :
Hello all. I'm new owner of the Sun Dolphin Sportsman. Just bought it used 2015 model for $250. This is my first boat and I'm trying to figure out what kind of trolling motor do I need. Bow or transom? I was going with a TRANSOM-MOUNT ENDURA C2 or ENDURA MAX. I initially thought that I can put the motor on either end but since read that these models are TRANSOM-MOUNT. I would apreciate any advice on what is the better option transom or bow.
TIA
racedad reply :
On 5/26/2016 at 9:03 AM, alex800 said:Hello all. I'm new owner of the Sun Dolphin Sportsman. Just bought it used 2015 model for $250. This is my first boat and I'm trying to figure out what kind of trolling motor do I need. Bow or transom? I was going with a TRANSOM-MOUNT ENDURA C2 or ENDURA MAX. I initially thought that I can put the motor on either end but since read that these models are TRANSOM-MOUNT. I would apreciate any advice on what is the better option transom or bow.
TIA
Like many others here, I have a transom mount and if you want to run it on the bow, you can remove the bolt on the head unit and turn it 180°. You then will be good to go. Good luck and welcome to the puddle jumpers.?
alex800 reply :
Cool, I didn't know that. Thank you racedad. I will be ordering Minn Kota Endura MAX 45.
racedad reply :
On 5/26/2016 at 9:35 AM, alex800 said:Cool, I didn't know that. Thank you racedad. I will be ordering Minn Kota Endura MAX 45.
You may want to spring for the 55. You will be glad you did. I have the endura max 55.
Vayned reply :
Question about launching, can you leave the trolling motor on it when unloading from the truck bed or attach it afterwards.
racedad reply :
On 5/27/2016 at 8:35 AM, Vayned said:Question about launching, can you leave the trolling motor on it when unloading from the truck bed or attach it afterwards.
I recently have been loading and unloading out of truck bed with the motor mounted. Have had no issues.
wnspain reply :
On 5/27/2016 at 8:39 AM, racedad said:I recently have been loading and unloading out of truck bed with the motor mounted. Have had no issues.
I second that, no issues.
Vayned reply :
F&S only had the Sun Dolphin and the Pelican 10ft, 10ft would be too much for me.
Picked up the Sun Dolphin with a 45lb Minn Kota. Is a rudder necessary? Bow or transom mounted for trolling motor?
etex reply :
Poor Boy Rod Holders.
I clamped $4.97 rod holders on boards and ran them through the handles on the back. Easily removed for transport and I didn't have to drill holes in my boat
benjyw44 reply :
Props to Harken Hoister for letting me use the empty space above my garage door to store my 10E up and outta the way. Comes with all of the hardware required to hoist this bad boy up and over the door. Installation was a piece of cake. I recommend this for anyone who needs to make room for storage!!!
etex reply :
I just installed a Lowrance HDS-5 fish finder. I took the picture before I tucked all the transducer wires, etc. below the flooring. Rain forecast today so probably won't get to try it out.
Vayned reply :
Took it out today, with just me the 45lb handles pretty good even with some wind. I launched by myself, just removed the battery. Rod holders and some clips for the paddle storage are next on the list, wish there was a product that I could put on the bottom like a keel guard so I could pull it on concrete. Would like to add carpet but don't want to add weight with plywood or anything. Maybe some way to stick the carpet to the plastic that can be removed easily?
johnkn reply :
Adhesive Velcro tape from Lowes, etc.
Vayned reply :
Been thinking about taking a mushroom anchor with me the wind was blowing me around a little bit last time, anyone ever anchor at all?
Vicdougle reply :
Hey y'all! I want one of these but I'm looking for a deal...I'm in Memphis and willing to drive a little ways to pick one up. Anyone know anyone looking to get rid of one? Craigslist has a few listed but no one is writing me back about their ads. 599 new at Academy, anywhere to get one cheaper? Thanks!
racedad reply :
On 6/2/2016 at 1:46 AM, Vicdougle said:Hey y'all! I want one of these but I'm looking for a deal...I'm in Memphis and willing to drive a little ways to pick one up. Anyone know anyone looking to get rid of one? Craigslist has a few listed but no one is writing me back about their ads. 599 new at Academy, anywhere to get one cheaper? Thanks!
May as well bite the bullet and get the one you mentioned. I searched and searched for a used one, finally broke down and paid retail at Dick's $699 less the 10% discount they gave me.
"hamma" reply :
On 5/23/2016 at 9:46 PM, Jon W said:Anyone painted theirs yet? Any ideas on the best paint to use? My Bass hunters is a dingy black/grey two tone, and really want to make it sharp.
I have a 7' 11" bass hunter that i bought in the early 80's a few years ago I took a good look and decided to paint it.,...
I ended up with the krylon plastic paint, spray cans, greyish in color., Gave the boat a good washing and a better rinse one day, and painted the next. Planned it so weather was nice for a few days and it came out awesome,..looks almost new at 35 years old
jtipton91 reply :
On 6/1/2016 at 5:20 PM, Vayned said:Been thinking about taking a mushroom anchor with me the wind was blowing me around a little bit last time, anyone ever anchor at all?
I don't even think about leaving shore without an anchor. anything over 5mph wind makes trying to control the boat and fish miserable. I mounted a cleat inside the boat on the side wall and drop anchor on any spot I want to fish halfway thoroughly. 10lb mushroom with 50 feet of 3/16 anchor rope.
Jon W reply :
On 6/2/2016 at 9:33 AM, Keith "Hamma" Hatch said:I have a 7' 11" bass hunter that i bought in the early 80's a few years ago I took a good look and decided to paint it.,...
I ended up with the krylon plastic paint, spray cans, greyish in color., Gave the boat a good washing and a better rinse one day, and painted the next. Planned it so weather was nice for a few days and it came out awesome,..looks almost new at 35 years old
thanks, mine is 9ft, but almost that old. was thinking about a new paint scheme, but knowing krylon plastic works makes me happy.
On 6/2/2016 at 11:57 PM, jtipton91 said:I don't even think about leaving shore without an anchor. anything over 5mph wind makes trying to control the boat and fish miserable. I mounted a cleat inside the boat on the side wall and drop anchor on any spot I want to fish halfway thoroughly. 10lb mushroom with 50 feet of 3/16 anchor rope.
i agree. I added an anchor system for like 4 bucks at walmart and an 8 lb mushroom. Big wind will still blow you around, so no anchor would be horrible
Vicdougle reply :
Heyooooo. Found a deal! 10E for 450 new. At an outdoor store in mountain Grove MO. Luckily my FIL lives there and agreed to pick it up for me and bring it to memphis on his next trip. They have 4 more if anyone else wants one. Can't wait to trick it out.
racedad reply :
On 6/3/2016 at 5:07 AM, Vicdougle said:Heyooooo. Found a deal! 10E for 450 new. At an outdoor store in mountain Grove MO. Luckily my FIL lives there and agreed to pick it up for me and bring it to memphis on his next trip. They have 4 more if anyone else wants one. Can't wait to trick it out.
Great deal!
Vayned reply :
I have some carpet cut still trying to decide how I want to attach it, velcro isn't working. If for some reason I might need to remove it and glue it down it could get messy. Also seeing how a handle on the front would work when pulling it out of the water onto the bank. Last time I took it out I grabbed both cleats which wasn't very pleasant and kind of hard to do.
http://imgur.com/roWMN59
Pond fisher reply :
On 6/3/2016 at 8:06 AM, Vayned said:I have some carpet cut still trying to decide how I want to attach it, velcro isn't working. If for some reason I might need to remove it and glue it down it could get messy. Also seeing how a handle on the front would work when pulling it out of the water onto the bank. Last time I took it out I grabbed both cleats which wasn't very pleasant and kind of hard to do.
http://imgur.com/roWMN59
I covered a piece of 5mm luann with outdoor carpet stapled to the plywood and it has worked great for three years..
Ken
etex reply :
To make it easier to install and remove to replace if needed, I made my floor in 4 sections. The two middle sections are 35" each and the two end ones are 13" each. That leaves about a 4" gap at each end for wires to extend. I had Lowes cut the carpet 22" and 14" widths to aide in the mounting to insure overlap. I then glued and stapled the carpet to the plywood. Someone had posted earlier to be careful of just stapling as they will rust. Apparently that hasn't been a problem for Pond fisher on his.
In reviewing Vayned's post regarding adding a handle to the front to assist in loading I have to ask a question that has been on my mind. I have a small harbor freight trailer that I use for my boat. Has anyone backed their boat onto the trailer rather than loading front first? To me, that answers the problem of having the handles added because you already have them on the sides in the back plus you could use your trolling motor if needed to get boat started on the trailer from lake.
My main reason for this thought is because the trolling motor is mounted on the front and the trailer has a short tongue. I have to pull the trolling motor all the way into the boat under the seat.
Vicdougle reply :
Hey ETEX...I was thinking about picking up one of those HF trailers today...they have em in stock and new for 299. How do you like it overall?
etex reply :
It works fine for me. I got the one that folds up if you want to. added 2x10's as runners and have carpet over them to help slide the boat onto it. Also added 2x4 in the side slots to keep the boat from moving side to side when travelling.
Joshua Colvey reply :
Has anyone been able to mount one of the flat type bow trolling motors. Looking to do like a 70 or 80 pound thrust instead of any type of gas motor.
Then do a smaller 30 lb for the front when fishing.
Thanks
Here is a link for reference to the type of mount i am talking about Thanks
http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/minn-kota-edge-70-freshwater-bow-mount-trolling-motor-201167607--1?repChildCatid=525903
Gas engines are rather expensive in this area even used.
Vayned reply :
On 6/3/2016 at 9:02 AM, Pond fisher said:
Can't delete the darn quote from reply.
I only would use the front handle to pull it out of the water. With the trolling motor attached to the rear(how I use it) it makes it awkward to grab the handles from the rear to load into the bed of the truck and unload since I don't have a trailer.
Eric Oditt reply :
My wife just bought me one of these boats (Pelican 10e) for my anniversary present and so far I've had no problems. I've only fished by myself so far but I'm guessing it would be even more stable with 2 seeing how all the weight was in the rear of the boat I thought it might help level it out a little with someone up front. I'm a big guy 290 so I was a little worried at first but even when I stand it seems to be pretty sturdy. So far I just added a 55lb Minn Kota Endurance C2 with an Exide 31 battery one extendable paddle and a anchor. I mounted the motor on the rear for now and seems to control the boat pretty good but I might try adding a rudder and switching the motor to the front.
jtipton91 reply :
On 6/4/2016 at 7:43 AM, Eric Oditt said:My wife just bought me one of these boats (Pelican 10e) for my anniversary present and so far I've had no problems. I've only fished by myself so far but I'm guessing it would be even more stable with 2 seeing how all the weight was in the rear of the boat I thought it might help level it out a little with someone up front. I'm a big guy 290 so I was a little worried at first but even when I stand it seems to be pretty sturdy. So far I just added a 55lb Minn Kota Endurance C2 with an Exide 31 battery one extendable paddle and a anchor. I mounted the motor on the rear for now and seems to control the boat pretty good but I might try adding a rudder and switching the motor to the front.
Go with the motor up front, make a rudder somehow, and never look back lol
Vayned reply :
Could add one of those anchor on a pulley things up front to even the weight out.
Joshua Colvey reply :
On 6/3/2016 at 5:07 AM, Vicdougle said:Heyooooo. Found a deal! 10E for 450 new. At an outdoor store in mountain Grove MO. Luckily my FIL lives there and agreed to pick it up for me and bring it to memphis on his next trip. They have 4 more if anyone else wants one. Can't wait to trick it out.
Anyway to get a flyer or the name of this store to contact them?
So i found a company that does a 3.5 hp motor but it has no reverse. Specs say it is 360 rotation so i am thinking you can just spin the motor around for revers but going to call them in the morning. So i am trying to figure something out so input please.
Should i go with a gas motor in the back and like a 50 lb trolling motor in the front on 12v and one battery or
go with a 80LB thrust 24 system in rear and a 30 in the front. Only issue is i wold be needing 3 marine batteries at a weight at or around 180LB. This is a lot. The gas engine on weight 22 lbs without fuel. Id be at 488 the Minn Kota Traxxis 80 and 75 each on the deep cycle group 27 or 21 batteries. So price wise i would be right at
50 front troller with gas rear engine and battery - 825$ and weight about 102-115 lbs
80 lb troller rear and 2 batteris and 30 lb troller front with one bettery - 813$ and 200-225 weight.
I weight about 200 lb and wife is about 135ish. The heaveast person i might take is about 250 lb.
600-250-200-225= (-75) to bad
600-250-200-115=35 to good
I know i am close without any other gear and i have seen the boats hold a lot more than the 600 lb but i would like to stay close to the max without going over if i can.
What are your thoughts
"hamma" reply :
On 6/4/2016 at 8:23 AM, jtipton91 said:Go with the motor up front, make a rudder somehow, and never look back lol
get another motor instead of the rudder, trust me, its worth it
Eric Oditt reply :
On 6/4/2016 at 5:46 PM, Keith "Hamma" Hatch said:get another motor instead of the rudder, trust me, its worth it
My buddy actually has a 34 lb thrust I think he said I could have it was hardly ever used but is an older model
jtipton91 reply :
On 6/4/2016 at 5:46 PM, Keith "Hamma" Hatch said:get another motor instead of the rudder, trust me, its worth it
How would that work??? As in gave both running? Please explain I'm interested
"hamma" reply :
I've had 2 motors on my bass hunter since the eighties. And when the wind whips up, or a storm moves in? You'll be glad to have that extra power. Plus, while fishing its easier to maneuver a bow motor than the transom, it's right in front of you, not behind. A variable speed up front has its advantages as well, you can slowly cruise down a shoreline flipping and pitching at the speed necessary and actually steer with your knee. When i first bought my boat I had a 10 lb thrust minn kota up front and a 36 in back, Later on, i got a 55 pd and replaced the 10, the 36 is variable speed, and the 55 has the 5 forward and 3 reverse speeds. It couldnt of worked out better.
I dont know why some of the guys here use a rudder, other than a weight issue,...but then yet, my hunter is a 7'11" model and doesn't have a huge weight limit, and Ive been out with me and my brother (both 250 lbers) with both motors 2 batteries and tackle, its tight but a blast. Personal preference i guess. But the best part of having 2 motors and batteries is? Ive NEVER, ever, in over 30 years,. had to paddle back to the launch. Ive seen guys paddling in crawdads, jon boat, and raiders that only had 1 motor and 1 battery with them, because the fish were biting and they got caught across the lake when the battery died,... DOH!,. Ive actually towed most of them, (its really required) the others wouldnt allow their ego's to get that crushed.
I also own a 16 ft deep v tracker which i had a12 volt, 60 inch shaft, 55 pd thrust powerdrive (foot controllled) bow mount on it, i just replaced it with an ulterra and im now actually contemplating rigging the powerdrive on my bass hunter, by welding a clamp on the bottom of a minn kota quick release plate to mount it, and trimming the shaft down. to like 30 inches,.. I figure that the quick release mount is about 50 bucks, and a clamp cant be more than around 25 bucks for around 75 bucks total,... versus buying a brand new foot controlled bulldog motor for a several hundred. (Bulldogs are the only foot controlled motor ive seen with a clamp for transom mounting) Then id have a foot controlled variable speed to fish with, and a total of 110pds of thrust combined to get across the lake and such
Good luck with your rig,..they are a ton of fun when set up right
Vayned reply :
I got the carpet in with 2 sections kind of visible but I don't have an issue with it, glued it to some thin plywood. Added some non slip tape on the front instead of putting carpet over it. Put friction tape over the seat frames that slide in the plastic guides so the seat won't slide around unless I get up and move it. Trying to decide where I want to attach my 15lb anchor to.
Vicdougle reply :
Outdoor earth has them on sale. In mountain grove MO. 475 out the door til June 13.
Joshua Colvey reply :
I may have asked this but cant find it. Has anyone ever used a foot controlled bow mount type ) the one that is flat and you lift and fold over the trolling motor in water.) on the back of a bass raider? I am leaning more along the lines of a 3.5 hp motor for the rear other than a 24v trolling motor for the simple fact is the weight savings is crazy. 2 12v group 27 batteries we ahve here at work are 60 lb each. 600 lb max rating on boat that already limits me down to 480 lb. down to 420 when i add the front battery for the front trolling motor. I do not plan on loading this to the max but heck the motor and fuel with an extra gallon of fuel is WAY lighter than 150 lbs it would be other wise on the trolling motor and 2 batteries for the back.
I am just afraid that a 55lb thrust on the front and a 55lb thrust on the back wouldn't be enough to move the boat in current water.
"hamma" reply :
On 6/7/2016 at 12:12 AM, Joshua Colvey said:I may have asked this but cant find it. Has anyone ever used a foot controlled bow mount type ) the one that is flat and you lift and fold over the trolling motor in water.) on the back of a bass raider? I am leaning more along the lines of a 3.5 hp motor for the rear other than a 24v trolling motor for the simple fact is the weight savings is crazy. 2 12v group 27 batteries we ahve here at work are 60 lb each. 600 lb max rating on boat that already limits me down to 480 lb. down to 420 when i add the front battery for the front trolling motor. I do not plan on loading this to the max but heck the motor and fuel with an extra gallon of fuel is WAY lighter than 150 lbs it would be other wise on the trolling motor and 2 batteries for the back.
I am just afraid that a 55lb thrust on the front and a 55lb thrust on the back wouldn't be enough to move the boat in current water.
If you plan on fishing a river in a pontoon style rig you will need all the power you can muster. I think 36 pd thrust is like 2.5 hp
I fished the merrimac river in my rig before i put the 55 on it,..did ok but wished i had more juice,.I dont know what kind of current you will be facing, the merrimac isnt all that bad where i was..just make sure your batteries are at 100%, and if you have any doubts dont launch. better to be safe then stupid
Joshua Colvey reply :
Its not to bad of a river really. I think i am going to do the 3.5 hp motor in rear and the 55lb thrust up front. I should be fine. We kayak and canoe down it all the time lol. There are a couple of quick s curves but thats about the worst of it. Its called spring river.
I was just more debating on 2 electric or one electric and one gas. I think tho with the weight savings from going with one gas and one electric instead of all electric will be worth it as well.
I have looked a few times on the conversion from what hp rating the trolling motors would be rated at but haven't really found a good one to trust bc of so many variables.
Can someon tell me if this motor will work for the bass raider? here is teh specs on measurements. I dont have my raider yet so i cant measure.
Transom Height to Center Prop: 21"
Transom Height to Cavitation Plate: 16"
Joshua Colvey reply :
Also what weight anchor are you fellers using on the raider?
Jon W reply :
I have a 10lb. it thought 8 earlier post, but when I looked this weekend, it is a 10.
Joshua Colvey reply :
Thanks I am sure I'll have more questions. Everyone here has been a great help so far. I need to find images of how everyone is mounting FF transducers.
etex reply :
If you are thinking of mounting it to your trolling motor which I did, go to YouTube and there are a number of videos to show you how to mount it. I would disregard the one however that shows using flex ties every 3-4 inches on the transducer cable as you will need to leave some slack for when the TM is put into and taken out of the water.
Joshua Colvey reply :
On 6/21/2010 at 9:03 PM, zerofivenismo said:Andy,
I used to have a bass raider 10E, and I built a dolly to transport it for about $25. This is the only pic that I have of the dolly since I sold the boat some time ago. You can do a search on here for 'dolly' for an awesome homemade dolly. I built mines similar to it. PM me for more detailed explanation.
To Jkoch: Yes you can fish standing in a 10 footer.
What size motor is that and does it push u and another pretty decent?
Joshua Colvey reply :
If i asked this question already i am sorry and i can delete. I am looking to order my motor for the back of my bass raider so i can have it all here at about the same time. My supplier sent me some specs to go off of. Can someone help me with these specs and if they will work or not as i dont have the raider here to try and figure it out. Well that and its all Greek to me lol..
Here are the specs i was sent
Transom Height to Center Prop: 21"
Transom Height to Cavitation Plate: 16"
Raider502 reply :
On 5/16/2016 at 9:50 PM, Vernon Utsinger said:Just joined and first post. Interested in getting into one of these and concerned about trailer with short tongue as you described.
Could a receiver extension possibly reduce the difficulty in backing?
Do you have a 10ft boat and if so does the extra length interfere with balance or turning?
Are you using the fold up trailer from HF?
Hey Vern, first time poster also. I've got a raider 10E I fixed up you might want to check it out and get some ideas. Let me know what you think and if you have any questions. google ( bass raider 502 )
Raider502 reply :
On 6/9/2016 at 1:27 AM, Raider502 said:
Hey guys I plan on having my raider out this weekend, Ill take some pictures and post them up so you guys can see what I did regarding some of your post and maybe that will give you some idea's on how I rigged out my boat. I have a video on youtube bassraider502
benjyw44 reply :
For anyone looking for a bow mount transducer and fish finder, I have the solution. The Sully Portable Transducer Mount (Cabelas, $ 43.99). It's actually designed for pontoons but it fits perfectly on the front of the Bass Raider. My biggest hesitation in mounting anything was stripping out a mount in the plastic and this resolved that concern since it's all one piece.
I had to make a couple modifications. First, I cut a small piece of poplar to use as a bumper in the clamp to make sure the arm doesn't press into the front lip of the boat. Then I cut another larger piece of poplar to use to mount my Humminbird. Both of those were sprayed with Flex Seal to keep them water tight.
The mount is easy to put on and easy to pull off. The depth is easily adjustable. The aluminum is rust free. And best of all, it kept me from screwing into the plastic.
etex reply :
Bassraider 502 really nice set up. I didn't see how you had your transducer mounted for your fish finder. I have mounted my TM on the front and added a removable rudder to the back which works really well. What are the advantages to TM on back of boat?
Joshua Colvey reply :
On 6/8/2016 at 10:53 PM, Joshua Colvey said:If i asked this question already i am sorry and i can delete. I am looking to order my motor for the back of my bass raider so i can have it all here at about the same time. My supplier sent me some specs to go off of. Can someone help me with these specs and if they will work or not as i dont have the raider here to try and figure it out. Well that and its all Greek to me lol..
Here are the specs i was sent
Transom Height to Center Prop: 21"
Transom Height to Cavitation Plate: 16"
Would anyone mind to measure the transom mounting top where th motor would mount tot he bottom where props would need to be in the water?
Arcades reply :
I just got the baby bass 8ft. It will be here tomorrow. I'll be installing a bow mounted trolling motor, and possibly a casting deck if the floor isn't wide enough. I will post pics when the project is done.
plasma800 reply :
On 6/7/2016 at 9:34 PM, Joshua Colvey said:Thanks I am sure I'll have more questions. Everyone here has been a great help so far. I need to find images of how everyone is mounting FF transducers.
I mounted mine (elite 7) using a pvc arm that hangs over the side of the boat. I'll snap a photo of it for you today.
Today is day two of my Northern Tool PWC trailer build. All I have left if the lights and to tuck the 10E onto it. I'll get some photos this afternoon when all is complete. Looks it will all fit just fine, but that thing is a PIA to put together.
"hamma" reply :
For mounting a transducer? My 8' bass hunter has a seam that sticks out about an inch or so, connecting the top and bottom sections of the boat...Originally I had a portable model fishfinder, the transducer had a suction cup with a metal bracket holding the transducer. I took off the suction cup, got a springclamp at home depot and clamp the bracket to the seam in the rear corner of the boat. cost me about $2.50
Vernon Utsinger reply :
Raider502: Nice looking boat and mods. I've had my 10e for about 4 weeks now and been on the water 4 times. I have a 5x8 Northern Tool trailer covered with 1x2 " plywood and a 1/2" plywood floor in in 2 pieces for easy removal. No carpet yet as I'm still making mods. to the floor for seat and misc. I built up the floor using 1x2 PVC board to allow space for mounting the base and reinforcement around the seat base. I used a similar pedestal as yours and a quick release base and a quick release seat base so I can remove all of it or just the seat. I'm leaving the rear as is except for a padded seat. I mounted the TM in the front with a detachable Big Foot and load the boat on the trailer rear end first. This allows use of the TM for unloading and loading and getting on and off the bank. This works real well.
Now working on building guide ons of 1" PVC for back and front that will serve to keep the boat centered while towing. I like your winch setup and have to modify my tongue area to mount one. There is a cross piece on the V shaped tongue that restricts the crank handle. I'll remove this and run a 2x4 from the frame to the open slot under the hitch that will give me a straight piece to mount the winch. Also like your stop on the tongue. So far I've been using Military Grade plastic ties on mods instead of screws/bolts and nuts where I can for several reasons: no rust or loosening from travel, no loose metal to puncture the boat and easy removal when changes are made.
There are some very nice mods posted on here that have been a lot of help in selecting, planning and preparation.
wnspain reply :
I've seen trailers that have a center guide-on that fits perfectly between the sponsons.
JaxBasser reply :
So can anyone familiar with florida law tell me how impossible it would be to register one of these with no title? Seems like all of them I find on CL never have a title. I'm assuming nearly impossible and not worth the effort.
Joshua Colvey reply :
I received a couple replies on 1 or 2 of my questions. Was curious if i might be able to ask again. Dont want to make anyone made just looking to see if things would work before i buy.
Can anyone tell or show pics of how they are mounting their fish finders and transducers?
Can anyone tell me if this motor will fit. Here are the specs,
Transom Height to Center Prop: 21"
Transom Height to Cavitation Plate: 16"
If it helps i plan to run a 45 lb thrust trolling motor on front and this 3.5 hp motor on back if the specs i listed will work. Hoping to find someone with about same motor specs so i know it will work.
dman reply :
On 6/29/2016 at 3:07 AM, Joshua Colvey said:I received a couple replies on 1 or 2 of my questions. Was curious if i might be able to ask again. Dont want to make anyone made just looking to see if things would work before i buy.
Can anyone tell or show pics of how they are mounting their fish finders and transducers?
Canam13 reply :
On 6/29/2016 at 3:07 AM, Joshua Colvey said:I received a couple replies on 1 or 2 of my questions. Was curious if i might be able to ask again. Dont want to make anyone made just looking to see if things would work before i buy.
Can anyone tell or show pics of how they are mounting their fish finders and transducers?
Can anyone tell me if this motor will fit. Here are the specs,
I use the right side rod holder for the FF setup. I believe it was a 2" piece of pipe 10" long, welded a washer to top. then bolted a ram mount to it ($30.00 ebay).I mostly leave the setup in the boat all the time and just unscrew the head unit of the FF( helix5 si/di unit) when not using the boat. I also use the hummingbird trolling motor transducer not the stock one that came with the unit. That was a recommendation from the folks on the electronics forum here at B.R.. Some extra wiring in the way sometimes, but totoally portable and can remove at anytime.
The trolling motor is a older motor guide Hyper-54lb, with a 45" shaft
hope this helps
trick worms reply :
I'm sure this has been asked before. How would the bass raider work for a small 500 acre lake? Could me and my friend fit on the sun dolphin 8 foot 6 model? We probably would have like 400 pounds ish including gear.
OCdockskipper reply :
In my opinion, 500 acres is starting to push it as size of lakes goes. I know some folks put small outboards on bass raiders to be able to get to further locations, but these boats are really designed for ponds & electric only lakes. Unless you are never going to venture too far from the ramp, you may want to consider another type of boat.
While the two of you could fit in an 8 ft model, I find those cramped. Even though half the time I fish alone, I really like the 10 ft models better. That extra 2 feet really makes a difference as far as feeling whether that you are right on top of the other angler, not to mention rod & tackle storage.
trick worms reply :
On 7/2/2016 at 3:37 AM, OCdockskipper said:In my opinion, 500 acres is starting to push it as size of lakes goes. I know some folks put small outboards on bass raiders to be able to get to further locations, but these boats are really designed for ponds & electric only lakes. Unless you are never going to venture too far from the ramp, you may want to consider another type of boat.
While the two of you could fit in an 8 ft model, I find those cramped. Even though half the time I fish alone, I really like the 10 ft models better. That extra 2 feet really makes a difference as far as feeling whether that you are right on top of the other angler, not to mention rod & tackle storage.
Thanks. I don't know, can you give me a reference as to how big 500 acres is, I just don't know. Also, how would a 35# trolling motor do on a 10e?
OCdockskipper reply :
My home lake is a about 100 acres, but is spread out on about 350 acres of land because it is skinny in most parts. The main lake is over 1/2 mile long with 11 coves that finger off from the main lake. I would guess that a 500 acre lake is probably a couple of miles long, unless it is kind of bowl shaped.
I have a 46lb Motorguide with 5 forward speeds. The lowest is a good slow speed that can keep the boat steady against a solid 10 mph wind. The highest speed motors the boat pretty well, I cover that 1/2 mile in less than 5 minutes. A 35lb would work, you just might feel like you are missing out on a top end speed or have to struggle a little more against blustery winds.
trick worms reply :
On 7/2/2016 at 6:33 AM, OCdockskipper said:My home lake is a about 100 acres, but is spread out on about 350 acres of land because it is skinny in most parts. The main lake is over 1/2 mile long with 11 coves that finger off from the main lake. I would guess that a 500 acre lake is probably a couple of miles long, unless it is kind of bowl shaped.
I have a 46lb Motorguide with 5 forward speeds. The lowest is a good slow speed that can keep the boat steady against a solid 10 mph wind. The highest speed motors the boat pretty well, I cover that 1/2 mile in less than 5 minutes. A 35lb would work, you just might feel like you are missing out on a top end speed or have to struggle a little more against blustery winds.
Thanks. Is there a tarp or something to store them without a trailer?
OCdockskipper reply :
Mine is always on the water, at my dock, so I had a custom canvas waterproof cover made to keep it dry. BPS makes a "one-size-fits-all" cover that will keep dust & condensation off, but it isn't waterproof and I actually had it fly off like Dorothy during a particularly windy storm. If you store the boat where rain won't hit it & accumulate on the cover, the BPS cover is adequate.
trick worms reply :
On 7/2/2016 at 6:39 AM, OCdockskipper said:Mine is always on the water, at my dock, so I had a custom canvas waterproof cover made to keep it dry. BPS makes a "one-size-fits-all" cover that will keep dust & condensation off, but it isn't waterproof and I actually had it fly off like Dorothy during a particularly windy storm. If you store the boat where rain won't hit it & accumulate on the cover, the BPS cover is adequate.
Is the bps cover you have the pond boat one? It says boats up to 10 feet and the 10e is 10 feet 2 inches so was wondering if it's a problem
trick worms reply :
Also does anyone know some good places to buy used bass raiders? Looked on Craigslist but didn't really see anything near me.
Vicdougle reply :
Can anyone help with this? I've got a die hard marine/deep cycle 29 series. 665 cca. How long would you suppose it would run with my 50lb thrust TM? 10 foot raider
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 7/3/2016 at 11:28 AM, Vicdougle said:Can anyone help with this? I've got a die hard marine/deep cycle 29 series. 665 cca. How long would you suppose it would run with my 50lb thrust TM? 10 foot raider
I have the exide dual purpose 29 series and I've yet to run it completely out. I have a 28# thrust minnkota and also power a ff off of it. Longest trip has been 6 hrs off stop and go use. hope this maybe helps a little...
OCdockskipper reply :
On 7/2/2016 at 10:33 AM, trick worms said:Is the bps cover you have the pond boat one? It says boats up to 10 feet and the 10e is 10 feet 2 inches so was wondering if it's a problem
Yes, that's the one. It is designed for a 10 ft boat with the seats in, so if it comes up 2" short, you can swivel one or both of the seats in the other direction to gain some length.
Chet Punisher reply :
Hi guys, new guy here. I'm looking at one of these boats for me and my son. He turned six this year and he loves fishing. I'm looking to fish inland lakes. I was wondering if I can get away with an eight footer? Or should I get the ten footer? There is one on sale for 575 near me. Thanks.
OCdockskipper reply :
I always recommend a 10 footer for two adults to give each other more elbow room. For an adult & a child, I would still recommend a 10 footer for the same reason. No matter the size of the second person, the extra space of a 10 footer just helps with all of your gear.
Plus, with a 10 footer, if your son gets bored, there would probably be room for him to lie down & take a nap
trick worms reply :
Could a 10e fit inside of a Honda Odyssey?
racedad reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 6:39 AM, trick worms said:Could a 10e fit inside of a Honda Odyssey?
Unlikely.
trick worms reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 6:42 AM, racedad said:Unlikely.
What's the cheapest way to transport them?
Chet Punisher reply :
Will it fit in a standard Silverado?
Chet Punisher reply :
Also, does anyone have any experience with a Bass Hound? Can you tell me how you like it?
wnspain reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 10:55 AM, Chet Punisher said:Will it fit in a standard Silverado?
Most certainly
On 7/4/2016 at 10:39 AM, trick worms said:What's the cheapest way to transport them?
In the back of Chevy pickup
Advantage reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 5:48 PM, Chet Punisher said:Also, does anyone have any experience with a Bass Hound? Can you tell me how you like it?
I have the Basshound 9.4 and like it. It even has an aerared livewell. The 10.4 I think besides an extra foot in length has a more ergonomic layout/seating.
Have a Lowrance Elite 4x HDI on mine, it's prewired front and back for lights and also for trolling motor but wouldn't recommend a trolling motor over 30lb thrust on the stock wiring...the small gauge wire can't handle the amp draw and will melt the wiring/blow fuses. I just run my 50lb thrust straight to a battery then have a 2nd battery to run lights, livewell, and graph.
wnspain reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 8:53 PM, Advantage said:Have a Lowrance Elite 4x HDI on mine, it's prewired front and back for lights and also for trolling motor but wouldn't recommend a trolling motor over 30lb thrust on the stock wiring...the small gauge wire can't handle the amp draw and will melt the wiring/blow fuses. I just run my 50lb thrust straight to a battery then have a 2nd battery to run lights, livewell, and graph.
That goes for the Bass Raider 10e also. Been there, done that...
racedad reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 9:00 PM, wnspain said:That goes for the Bass Raider 10e also. Been there, done that...
The factory wiring on the Pelican is suitable for any 12 volt trolling motor! I run a 55 thrust minkota without 1 issue. With this being said, that's all I run on the factory wiring. For my Helix 5, I use a separate battery source.
wnspain reply :
I've tried to run a 55 minkota, a 52 motor guide (both not at the same time) and blew fuses at any setting beyond 3. Don't know but may have to investigate further...
wnspain reply :
Amazing what a little research does...
This from the MKota website...turns out breaker wasn't cutting the mustard. Although the stock wiring doesn't seem to be 6AWG, looks more like 10AWG to me but that's just a guess
racedad reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 9:42 PM, wnspain said:Amazing what a little research does...
This from the MKota website...turns out breaker wasn't cutting the mustard. Although the stock wiring doesn't seem to be 6AWG, looks more like 10AWG to me but that's just a guess
May be the difference for me, I removed the fuse holder in the stock wiring, soldered a new ring connector. I use the minkota battery box that has the built in breakers.
Chet Punisher reply :
So looking at the bass hound, it doesn't look like a pontoon style like the bass raider. Is there an advantage of one vs. the other. It looks like the hound can handle a larger gas motor. Is one more stable than the other?
trick worms reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 8:44 PM, wnspain said:Most certainly
In the back of Chevy pickup
What if you don't have a truck
racedad reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 10:39 AM, trick worms said:What's the cheapest way to transport them?
I would find a small utility type trailer. There are a few people on here that went this route.
wnspain reply :
Harbor Freight folding trailer can be had for $279
Folding Utility Trailer
wnspain reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 10:21 PM, Chet Punisher said:So looking at the bass hound, it doesn't look like a pontoon style like the bass raider. Is there an advantage of one vs. the other. It looks like the hound can handle a larger gas motor. Is one more stable than the other?
The pontoon style boat is an extremely stable design with the vast majority of it's buoyancy derived from foam inside the sponsons which are situated on the outside edges of the vessel. I've seen video of 2 adults standing on the same outer edge without it tipping enough to throw them overboard.
Advantage reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 11:20 PM, wnspain said:The pontoon style boat is an extremely stable design with the vast majority of it's buoyancy derived from foam inside the sponsons which are situated on the outside edges of the vessel. I've seen video of 2 adults standing on the same outer edge without it tipping enough to throw them overboard.
Coming from someone who has owned both types of boats...both are stable enough for 2 to stand up and fish in. But just like even in an aluminum boat, you just hafta be slow and deliberate in your movements.
trick worms reply :
Would an 8 foot 6 sun dolphin sportsman fit in a Honda Odyssey ?
racedad reply :
On 7/6/2016 at 3:25 AM, trick worms said:Would an 8 foot 6 sun dolphin sportsman fit in a Honda Odyssey ?
I highly doubt it!
J Francho reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 11:20 PM, wnspain said:The pontoon style boat is an extremely stable design with the vast majority of it's buoyancy derived from foam inside the sponsons which are situated on the outside edges of the vessel.
Just a quick science fact check, just because I see people add foam and pool noodles to a hull, trying to add "buoyancy." This isn't true at all. In fact, you're adding mass to the empty space hull, which makes it less buoyant. The main purpose of the foam is to afford some measure of safety flotation if the hull is breached and fills with water. The idea is to keep the boat afloat until the passengers can get to safety. The other purpose is probably to offer a little bit of reinforcement to that part. As for flotation, its the design of the sponsons themselves that offers a stable (very stable, actually) ride. It's not unlike my hybrid kayak, a Wildy Commander 140.
Anyway, sorry for the sidebar..... carry on!
wnspain reply :
On 7/6/2016 at 4:18 AM, J Francho said:Just a quick science fact check, just because I see people add foam and pool noodles to a hull, trying to add "buoyancy." This isn't true at all. In fact, you're adding mass to the empty space hull, which makes it less buoyant. The main purpose of the foam is to afford some measure of safety flotation if the hull is breached and fills with water. The idea is to keep the boat afloat until the passengers can get to safety. The other purpose is probably to offer a little bit of reinforcement to that part. As for flotation, its the design of the sponsons themselves that offers a stable (very stable, actually) ride. It's not unlike my hybrid kayak, a Wildy Commander 140.
Anyway, sorry for the sidebar..... carry on!
That is true!! I should have rephrased that statement to be more correct - " extremely stable design with the vast majority of it's buoyancy derived the sponsons which are situated on the outside edges of the vessel and filled with foam for an added safety measure."
J Francho reply :
I only pointed it out, because so many think that's how it works.
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 7/4/2016 at 5:48 PM, Chet Punisher said:Also, does anyone have any experience with a Bass Hound? Can you tell me how you like it?
I have the bashound 10.2 and I love it. There's nothing I don't like about it other than a couple things the original owner did like put a rod holder on and where he mounted the fish finder but that stuff can be changed.
wnspain reply :
Not that I own a Bass Hound, but I have fished out of one. Overall, a good fishing platform with some features that cannot be had on a Raider 10e i.e. live well I found that the hull design was less stable than a Raider but more so than a narrow Jon Boat.
Chet Punisher reply :
There is a 12 foot Jon boat that I can pick for a song. Any downside vs the raider?
plasma800 reply :
On 7/2/2016 at 4:41 AM, trick worms said:Thanks. I don't know, can you give me a reference as to how big 500 acres is, I just don't know. Also, how would a 35# trolling motor do on a 10e?
Look dude, I have a 35# n my 10E, and the setting of 1 ..... is too fast.... which it was slower..
Chet Punisher reply :
Picked up a bass raider today. I got a chance to sit in one and really liked it. I think it will be great for me and the kids. Now to look for a trolling motor.. Any suggestions?
J Francho reply :
Congrats! My only suggestion is get the digital maximizer type. Better speed control and longer battery life.
Vicdougle reply :
Heyooooo! So here is what I have done so far...
Rod Straps on both pontoons. Drain plug at the stern. Wired it myself as I bout the BR10...not the 10E. It was very easy....ask if you need help. Built a rudder out of some scrap wood, broom handle and scrap SS sheet and a gate hinge. 1/2 in plywood floor with outdoor carpet to the rear and 3/4 inch treated plywood to the front...I cut it to the right length so if I wanna stand and fish I have an elevated casting platform when I turn it 90 degrees. Umbrella holder. MinnKota Battery Center to check charge levels and charge the phone/portable speaker. Still have a lot more to do but I got it out on the water today and had a blast. 50 lb thrust MinnKota was perfect esoecially when the wind picked up...
Vicdougle reply :
On 7/9/2016 at 3:27 AM, Chet Punisher said:Picked up a bass raider today. I got a chance to sit in one and really liked it. I think it will be great for me and the kids. Now to look for a trolling motor.. Any suggestions?
I've got a minnkota endura 50 lb. and unless you're just doing small ponds I wouldn't go any smaller. My boat fully loaded on setting 5 is a little faster than a walking pace.
Chet Punisher reply :
Well, I was given an endura 30 to use for now... I'll get the 55 later on. It's just me and the six year old... Should be fine for now.
Arcades reply :
So I got everything done. Custom welded mount for my bow mounted trolling motor, also custom wired with a 65 amp breaker. The casting deck makes this boat literally 10x better. I made a rudder with a transom trolling motor mount but honestly with the taller pontoons I just didn't need it. Got 2 29D deep cycle batteries, so I can fish all day. I fished for 4 hours today and literally never sat on the seat. I use it as a changing station for lures.
Chet Punisher reply :
I'm n Michigan. Do I have to register the boat? Duhnams didn't fill anything out on the MOS.
J Francho reply :
looks like it. A quick google search reveals:
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-153-10365_10884-34770--,00.html
lecisnith reply :
On 7/12/2016 at 3:38 AM, Chet Punisher said:I'm n Michigan. Do I have to register the boat? Duhnams didn't fill anything out on the MOS.
In Michigan anything powered by non-humans must be registered.
Gene Tougas reply :
I bought a new bass raider 10e last February. I live I. Upstate New York so I could not use it till the end of April. I wish I bought this years ago. I throw it in the back of my ram pick up and can be in the pond within 10 minutes. Life is good.
Gene
etex reply :
Excellent work and pictures Vicdougle! I love the way you did your rudder. Simple and effective!
Vicdougle reply :
On 7/13/2016 at 5:23 AM, etex said:Excellent work and pictures Vicdougle! I love the way you did your rudder. Simple and effective!
Thanks so much! Only other thing I need to do with it is secure it downward. Sharp turns cause enough sidways pressure to lift it up. A bungee cord should solve it. Played around with and without it and it makes a noticeable difference while runnin the boat. Rudder is a must...
Chet Punisher reply :
What do people use for horizontal pole holders? Should I build a vertical pole holder?
Advantage reply :
On 7/15/2016 at 7:19 AM, Chet Punisher said:What do people use for horizontal pole holders? Should I build a vertical pole holder?
I don't do vertical ones...two-man boats don't have enough room to cast as it is. Don't wanna get things all tangled up when making casts. I can lay 3 rod & reel combos on each side of the boat. Am gonna put the rubber rod straps front and back on both sides soon so they can't bounce or fall out.
wnspain reply :
On 7/11/2016 at 6:46 AM, Arcades said:So I got everything done. Custom welded mount for my bow mounted trolling motor, also custom wired with a 65 amp breaker. The casting deck makes this boat literally 10x better. I made a rudder with a transom trolling motor mount but honestly with the taller pontoons I just didn't need it. Got 2 29D deep cycle batteries, so I can fish all day. I fished for 4 hours today and literally never sat on the seat. I use it as a changing station for lures.
I hear you on that aspect. I never outfitted my Raider with a rudder because proper weight distribution will provide more than enough rudder effect. I've heard of people spinning circles using a TM mounted on the bow but mine has a foot control that allows me to position myself aft of center which provides a balance that makes the rudder unnecessary.
Arcades reply :
On 7/15/2016 at 7:31 PM, wnspain said:I hear you on that aspect. I never outfitted my Raider with a rudder because proper weight distribution will provide more than enough rudder effect. I've heard of people spinning circles using a TM mounted on the bow but mine has a foot control that allows me to position myself aft of center which provides a balance that makes the rudder unnecessary.
Yeah that's how's it first bass raider faired with a bow mounted trolling motor that wasn't for the bow. But with this one it works great since it's a bow mounted trolling motor. Ironically the trolling motor cost more than the boat lol. I did make a sweet rudder tho. Ordered a trolling motor mount and used a piece of pvc as the shaft, then connected a oar paddle to the shaft. Perfect little rudder, just don't need one with this boat.
Chet Punisher reply :
Got the raider out today. Worked awesome. No bites, but bats OK, no one was catching anything. I have trolling motor set up on the bow and had a really really hard time pulling forward, back end wanted to swing put every time. There was hardly any wind. Do most people have their raider set up this way? I ended up using reverse and pushing going backwards. Any suggestions?
my boy loved it. I need to get one of those seat raisers from Walmart...
"hamma" reply :
put another motor on the back
"hamma" reply :
Arcades?,..is your trolling motor mounted on a minn kota quick release mount welded to the boat? or to another trolling motor mount?
Chet Punisher reply :
On 7/16/2016 at 11:56 PM, Keith "Hamma" Hatch said:put another motor on the back
You run both at the same time?
"hamma" reply :
On 7/17/2016 at 12:17 AM, Chet Punisher said:You run both at the same time?
I use them both when Im cruising from spot to spot, or heading home, and just the front when fishing
wnspain reply :
On 7/16/2016 at 11:38 PM, Chet Punisher said:Got the raider out today. Worked awesome. No bites, but bats OK, no one was catching anything. I have trolling motor set up on the bow and had a really really hard time pulling forward, back end wanted to swing put every time. There was hardly any wind. Do most people have their raider set up this way? I ended up using reverse and pushing going backwards. Any suggestions?
my boy loved it. I need to get one of those seat raisers from Walmart...
Sounds as if you have a balance problem. Is your trolling motor, battery, and you in the front half of the boat? I've seen that often and it easily correctable. A properly balanced boat doesn't need a rudder, the pontoons provide more than enough.
etex reply :
Chet Punisher it sounds like you just need to add a rudder to keep the backend from swinging around. That is what most people have done and it is a lot simpler and less expensive than putting another TC on the back. Go back to the previous page in these posts and there is a good example shown there.
Good luck!
J Francho reply :
A simple, fixed skeg would resolve the issue.
wnspain reply :
On 7/19/2016 at 10:08 PM, J Francho said:A simple, fixed skeg would resolve the issue.
So would proper weight and balance without adding anything
racedad reply :
On 7/19/2016 at 9:52 PM, etex said:Chet Punisher it sounds like you just need to add a rudder to keep the backend from swinging around. That is what most people have done and it is a lot simpler and less expensive than putting another TC on the back. Go back to the previous page in these posts and there is a good example shown there.
Good luck!
This!
Canam13 reply :
On 7/20/2016 at 5:41 AM, racedad said:This!
On 7/19/2016 at 9:52 PM, etex said:Chet Punisher it sounds like you just need to add a rudder to keep the backend from swinging around. That is what most people have done and it is a lot simpler and less expensive than putting another TC on the back. Go back to the previous page in these posts and there is a good example shown there.
Good luck!
Chet- have to agree with Etex, look on the boards and make yourself some kind of rudder. I Have a 54lb TM up front and my optima blue top battery in the back. With just me up front (220lbs) no problems with the rudder, boat tracks dead straight. Without it, almost unfishable. Even with my buddy (240lbs)in the back to even out the weight, I find the boat way to hard to navigate around without the rudder.
my 2 cents
Vicdougle reply :
On 7/16/2016 at 11:38 PM, Chet Punisher said:Got the raider out today. Worked awesome. No bites, but bats OK, no one was catching anything. I have trolling motor set up on the bow and had a really really hard time pulling forward, back end wanted to swing put every time. There was hardly any wind. Do most people have their raider set up this way? I ended up using reverse and pushing going backwards. Any suggestions?
my boy loved it. I need to get one of those seat raisers from Walmart...
Chet mine has been working really well. It is cheap...12 bucks? Accounts for submerged rocks/trees etc with the rudder being mounted on a hinge. The whole thing just lifts off when I dont need it there. Just make sure you have something with downward pressure (I use a bungee) because when you make sharp turns it will lift up without it....
timcauliffe reply :
On 7/20/2016 at 8:15 PM, Vicdougle said:Chet mine has been working really well. It is cheap...12 bucks? Accounts for submerged rocks/trees etc with the rudder being mounted on a hinge. The whole thing just lifts off when I dont need it there. Just make sure you have something with downward pressure (I use a bungee) because when you make sharp turns it will lift up without it....
What does the underside/mount look for this?
Looking to do the exact same idea for my portable transducer mount.
Vicdougle reply :
On 7/20/2016 at 11:15 PM, timcauliffe said:What does the underside/mount look for this?
Looking to do the exact same idea for my portable transducer mount.
Think of an encyclopedia with no pages. It just slides on from the top. If you look at the picture with the boat in the water, I have two eye hole pins on the battery side that I bungee down to the deck. That keeps it from lifting out of the water during turns.
And I'm planning on mounting transducer under the TM at the front of the boat where I'll be sitting the majority of the time.
Arcades reply :
On 7/17/2016 at 12:06 AM, Keith "Hamma" Hatch said:Arcades?,..is your trolling motor mounted on a minn kota quick release mount welded to the boat? or to another trolling motor mount?
I had a welder custom make a mount that is attached to the trolling motor, but still allows me to remove it when I'm down fishing. Cost $120 but totally worth it.
trick worms reply :
I recently purchased a sun dolphin sportsman used. It came with some Jon boat seats. I bought the seat rail thing that you put the seat on, but the seats wouldn't fit. Any suggestions for some new seats? They have them on sun Dolphins website but they're ridiculously overpriced.
trick worms reply :
Actually do I need a swivel, not a seat? Then can I use the old seat but change the swivel?
Hack1982 reply :
Do they make a power station (minn kota) for a walmart deep cycle battery in 29 series? Should I buy the 29 series one? Only see the power stations for 24 and 27.
J Francho reply :
You can probably find a box from someone other than 'Bird for a group 29, and modify it with connectors. Sears has a reasonably priced one.
racedad reply :
On 7/22/2016 at 3:35 AM, Hack1982 said:Do they make a power station (minn kota) for a walmart deep cycle battery in 29 series? Should I buy the 29 series one? Only see the power stations for 24 and 27.
The 29 series will fit in the 27 minn Kota box. That's the set up I have.
trick worms reply :
how do you mount new seats to the seat base? Is there a swivel you have to buy?
J Francho reply :
Maybe need a picture of what you have, to better answer.
trick worms reply :
On 7/22/2016 at 10:07 PM, J Francho said:Maybe need a picture of what you have, to better answer.
J Francho reply :
That appears to have a swivel already?
trick worms reply :
On 7/22/2016 at 10:17 PM, J Francho said:That appears to have a swivel already?
I know, the problem is the seat won't fit on the seat bracket, it won't get narrow enough to tighten
trick worms reply :
I think I have a solution, I took the bottom part of and will get some screws to put it in the bracket. Thanks for the help J Francho
J Francho reply :
Hopefully it works. Post up a pic, if you get it!
trick worms reply :
On 7/22/2016 at 10:51 PM, J Francho said:Hopefully it works. Post up a pic, if you get it!
Will do
fishcat reply :
There is a product call "Rivnuts" that you can use behind the plastic skin of the Bass Raider. Easy to install, sort of like the old Molly Bolts (which would probably work ok!).
trick worms reply :
I have a sun dolphin sportsman. The seats I have aren't the ones that come with the boat. When y'all lean back in your board, do you feel like you can fall backwards? That's what it feels like in my seats. Thanks
foomanjee reply :
On 8/3/2016 at 7:10 AM, trick worms said:I have a sun dolphin sportsman. The seats I have aren't the ones that come with the boat. When y'all lean back in your board, do you feel like you can fall backwards? That's what it feels like in my seats. Thanks
Can you get me the exact dimensions of the sportsman? I'm days away from getting one, but I think it's going to be a super, super tight fit in the back of my avalanche. I can clear 48" wide, and 20" tall - but only in the center of the bed. The top of the sides has a lip that sticks a few inches out to the center
That lip is at 18" high, and extends to the center for 5". See attached picture
wnspain reply :
n/a
trick worms reply :
On 8/6/2016 at 1:55 AM, foomanjee said:Can you get me the exact dimensions of the sportsman? I'm days away from getting one, but I think it's going to be a super, super tight fit in the back of my avalanche. I can clear 48" wide, and 20" tall - but only in the center of the bed. The top of the sides has a lip that sticks a few inches out to the center
That lip is at 18" high, and extends to the center for 5". See attached picture
According to dicks sporting goods its 48 w 20 h 103 l. Do you want me to measure it? I'll do it next time I go fishing if you need me to
fishcat reply :
If the boat is a little wider than the pickup bed, just cut some lumber to fit and raise it up a few inches. It's strapped down anyway. I use a couple of 2x4's covered with carpet in the narrow bedliner of my '02 Ranger. Your bedliner has moldings for lumber. Slide the Bass Raider right up onto those and go!
Mr.Victor reply :
Picked up my bass raider 3 or 4 months ago and I absolutely love it. I did a bunch of mods including a casting deck and the deck is rock solid. It's 3x more stable on my deck than standing in some of my friends jon boats. Here's a little video I put together showing me fishing on my boat and catching a nice 5 lb 4 oz bass:
https://youtu.be/n4ljhJ0cbgg
coachfozz reply :
Not a pelican boat, but this is what I did to my Sea Eagle SE8.
Mr.Victor reply :
Looks ver similar to what I did to my Mariner 4 before I got my Bass Raider.
coachfozz reply :
On 8/19/2016 at 1:33 AM, Mr.Victor said:Looks ver similar to what I did to my Mariner 4 before I got my Bass Raider.
Yeah, that is a nice looking boat there as well. Like your Raider as well. I really enjoy my boat. My buddy and I (500 plus pounds) can get around mine pretty well.
Tommy X reply :
Just installed built in rod holders. That's one bad thing about the BR. No rod storage. I might install 2 more up front but that can wait. I'm putting cleats on tomorrow. I'm tearing up the bottom of this thing on boat ramps so I'll have to lauch like the big boys and tie it up to the dock instead of getting in and shoving off.
Mr.Victor reply :
On 8/24/2016 at 12:05 AM, Tommy X said:Just installed built in rod holders. That's one bad thing about the BR. No rod storage. I might install 2 more up front but that can wait. I'm putting cleats on tomorrow. I'm tearing up the bottom of this thing on boat ramps so I'll have to lauch like the big boys and tie it up to the dock instead of getting in and shoving off.
Nice job...looks clean...but just a heads up there are two built in rod holders at the front of the boat.
Tommy X reply :
On 8/25/2016 at 1:27 AM, Mr.Victor said:Nice job...looks clean...but just a heads up there are two built in rod holders at the front of the boat.
Yeah, but I don't like em'
Canam13 reply :
On 8/24/2016 at 12:05 AM, Tommy X said:Just installed built in rod holders. That's one bad thing about the BR. No rod storage. I might install 2 more up front but that can wait. I'm putting cleats on tomorrow. I'm tearing up the bottom of this thing on boat ramps so I'll have to lauch like the big boys and tie it up to the dock instead of getting in and shoving off.
Tommy,
mind if I ask where you purchased the holders from and what brand/model? I want to install front & back in my BR also, nice job!
Mr.Victor reply :
On 8/26/2016 at 1:28 AM, Tommy X said:Yeah, but I don't like em'
Fair enough!
Tommy X reply :
On 8/27/2016 at 12:01 AM, Canam13 said:Tommy,
mind if I ask where you purchased the holders from and what brand/model? I want to install front & back in my BR also, nice job!
I forget the make but I got them at Dicks for $14.95. Over in the kayak section. I also made an extra gasket out of 1/4" thick rubber I picked up at the hardware store. So it would conform to the boats curvature a little better. Used marine sealant on the whole thing.
Chowderhead reply :
What a great thread - read it from start to finish, and now cannot wait to make some modifications to my Bass Raider 10E.
Picked it up used (brand new - sat in guy's garage collecting dust) with sealed trolling motor, life vests, paddle, and a few other assorted goodies for $500.00 Only hassle I had was getting it registered with the State of Nebraska. Ugh!
Now that is behind me, already have made a couple of trips and caught some nice ones. Looking forward to some fall fishing.
CrustyMono reply :
Really heavy
jeffo21 reply :
I finally finished my trailer for my 10e and I love not having to load and unload my boat by hand now. just back in and unload like a big boat and load the same way. I also put my upgraded boat seats on it also caught the bass boat seats on sale not long ago and got 2 of the nice real thick padded seats on it now also.
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 9/5/2016 at 9:51 AM, jeffo21 said:I finally finished my trailer for my 10e and I love not having to load and unload my boat by hand now. just back in and unload like a big boat and load the same way. I also put my upgraded boat seats on it also caught the bass boat seats on sale not long ago and got 2 of the nice real thick padded seats on it now also.
I too have a trailer but find it very difficult to load onto the trailer like the big boys without an outboard. I have my trolling motor mounted on the bow. Only took me a once of forgetting to raise it as I rolled up on the trailer. Now I find myself just beaching it near the ramp and pulling it up on the trailer with a rope. Curious to know your loading procedure.
jeffo21 reply :
I back in and run it up on the bunk boards and then winch it the rest of the way. it's easier for me with the motor on back.
d-camarena reply :
Just got this, i got a question for you guys. What tackle storage bags/ boxes/ systems do you use for these small boats?
Advantage reply :
On 9/9/2016 at 7:39 AM, d-camarena said:Just got this, i got a question for you guys. What tackle storage bags/ boxes/ systems do you use for these small boats?
I've got the Basshound 9.4 and I just bring my soft side tackle bag that holds 6 totes and set it in the middle between the 2 seats. I can lay 3 to 4 rods on each side. And I can stand and cast/flip/pitch and run the trolling motor.
"hamma" reply :
On 9/9/2016 at 9:32 AM, Advantage said:I've got the Basshound 9.4 and I just bring my soft side tackle bag that holds 6 totes and set it in the middle between the 2 seats. I can lay 3 to 4 rods on each side. And I can stand and cast/flip/pitch and run the trolling motor.
Thats a nice set up you have there. I have a old 1980's 8' basshunter and I use the same type bag/plano's as advantage,... mine takes 4 plano's and holds the essentials IE: pliers, sunglasses,scents, lineclippers etc.,.. But my boat I can take one of the seats away, and I put the bag under the seat i use.,..Seems like this tackle solution is just right
Perche06 reply :
On 5/3/2011 at 11:21 PM, Midnight Splash2 said:Hey BigDog
Get yourself one of these batteries to run your fish finder separate. This battery is so small it fits in the compartments on the top rail of the boat. I promise you it will keep your fish finder charged for WEEKS before you have to recharge it. You will also be able to get more time off your trolling motor without having the fish finder hooked to the same battery. This was a great buy for my Bass Raider.
http://store.humminbird.com/products/322329?product_id=1bc69a6425bfe786d569f9e9b9fef16e
Midnight, I couldn't find the battery your talking about, could you send a pic ?
Perche06 reply :
Hey, I'm new this site. I just bought a Pelican 10E and was wanting to set it up with rod holders, fish finder, transducer, oar holders, and looking for ideas on where to mount the these items. I am a visual person and would welcome advise and any pictures you might have of your setup !!
etex reply :
I would highly recommend that you review the previous 97 pages as there are some awesome pictures and descriptions of how to accomplish the modifications that you mentioned. A lot of additional ideas and comments that will be a big help to you.
Chowderhead reply :
On 9/11/2016 at 7:18 PM, etex said:I would highly recommend that you review the previous 97 pages as there are some awesome pictures and descriptions of how to accomplish the modifications that you mentioned. A lot of additional ideas and comments that will be a big help to you.
I second this. While there are a lot of posts to read, there are some outstanding ideas. Now that I have had my 10E for a month now, I plan on going back through all the posts again. Enjoy!
Gary Hackworth reply :
Bought A Shorelander jet ski trailer, 55 lb TM, and New padded camo seats fo my 10' pelican. I'm ready to hit the water soon, Lots of mods to do, but its been fun. I had a 30 lb motor but felt it wasn't powerful enough.
jeffo21 reply :
you will like the 55 TM Gary. I had a 36lb TM on mine and upgraded to a Minn Kota 50 and really like the way it moves my raider now.
"hamma" reply :
since you guys have different boats than mine, Im wondering if you are now using both motors. I use 2 on my boat as I have the room for 2 batteries and can reach both motors from my single seat, as I can put the seat anywhere. With that said,.. its a godsend using 2 motors. If you can, try it.
nimbus2065 reply :
Mod's I made to my 8' Sun Dolphin. Has made it much more enjoyable to fish out of.
scaleface reply :
have a Bass Baby with built in wheels , so I can launch it easily by myself .
"hamma" reply :
On 10/1/2016 at 10:09 PM, scaleface said:have a Bass Baby with built in wheels , so I can launch it easily by myself .
sweet little rig Scaleface!
Vicdougle reply :
Hey y'all... Couple more additions to the BR. Will put up pics ASAP but I just had to say this if you're on the fence....fishing without a rudder is **** show. Burned half my battery just keeping the boat in place. Went out today and I forgot it thinking I would just make do and I will never make that mistake again. Light intermittent wind made it even worse. Ya I know Spain...balance and distribute weight evenly blah blah blah....no. Rudder means I can fish alone without a hassle!
Vicdougle reply :
Hey guys...Here are a couple more pics of the progress. Installed the Garmin Striker 4DV and wired through the hull like the trolling motor. I didnt like how the TM wires were always in the way so I mounted the FF wire from the outside of the boat...don't foresee any problems there. Bought a tripod adapter mounting kit off amazon for 7 bucks and epoxied (sp?) the female end to my waterproof bluetooth speaker so it can be taken off for charging and transport. Added another mount to the back just because. Waterproof bag for the iphone. Im trying a pull out drawer under my seat with plano boxes in it because my tackle backpack was too cumbersome. Jury is still out. Glued a couple magnets around the boat for tools/forceps. Hung a few carabiners from the seat for nips and a fish rag. Mounted the transducer on the TM which is up front with me . Still workin on it but I love it so far.
I am still debating just adding seat risers or mounting a pedestal seat....any insights. Thanks!
Vicdougle reply :
On 9/29/2016 at 8:32 AM, nimbus2065 said:Mod's I made to my 8' Sun Dolphin. Has made it much more enjoyable to fish out of.
Hey Nimbus...how does that gardening stake hold up? Doesnt it get bent?
nimbus2065 reply :
On 10/6/2016 at 8:55 AM, Vicdougle said:Hey Nimbus...how does that gardening stake hold up? Doesnt it get bent?
Its not as bad as you'd think. I usually only use it in 3' or less anything more yes it does bend but other then that its good I have a metal ring wrapped in electrical tape around it tied to the para cord seems to help with the flex as it floats up and down it.
nimbus2065 reply :
On 10/5/2016 at 12:31 PM, Vicdougle said:Hey guys...Here are a couple more pics of the progress. Installed the Garmin Striker 4DV and wired through the hull like the trolling motor. I didnt like how the TM wires were always in the way so I mounted the FF wire from the outside of the boat...don't foresee any problems there. Bought a tripod adapter mounting kit off amazon for 7 bucks and epoxied (sp?) the female end to my waterproof bluetooth speaker so it can be taken off for charging and transport. Added another mount to the back just because. Waterproof bag for the iphone. Im trying a pull out drawer under my seat with plano boxes in it because my tackle backpack was too cumbersome. Jury is still out. Glued a couple magnets around the boat for tools/forceps. Hung a few carabiners from the seat for nips and a fish rag. Mounted the transducer on the TM which is up front with me
I am still debating just adding seat risers or mounting a pedestal seat....any insights. Thanks!
Awesome setup. What kind of blue tooth speaker is that? Go with the seat riser I had a pedestal seat mounted and didn't like it when my brother went out with me
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 9/9/2016 at 7:39 AM, d-camarena said:Just got this, i got a question for you guys. What tackle storage bags/ boxes/ systems do you use for these small boats?
I have the same setup only in green. I wish I had the outboard like you though. How does it run? As far as tackle bags, I just have a backpack with some plastic trays I take with me. Usually 4 rods max for me. Been meaning to add some rod straps to one of the sides to at least keep the rods off the ground. You will love that bass hound! I too can stand and flip easily with a partner standing as well. Enjoy
Vicdougle reply :
On 10/7/2016 at 10:33 AM, nimbus2065 said:Its not as bad as you'd think. I usually only use it in 3' or less anything more yes it does bend but other then that its good I have a metal ring wrapped in electrical tape around it tied to the para cord seems to help with the flex as it floats up and down it.
So it was a freebie from my pop's company but amazon lists a pretty sweet one that I was gunna buy til this one fell in my lap...link is at the bottom. I wanna do an anchor pole instead of conventional and have been looking for the right material and I finally found it. Grainger sells a 10' fiberglass pole that is 3/4" thick and I think it'll be perfect. Plus its only 40 bucks. Since Ive got a 10 foot raider ill mount it the same way you did.
https://www.amazon.com/AOMAIS-II-Bluetooth-Waterproof-Generation/dp/B01K9NLCV8/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1475885128&sr=1-12&keywords=Waterproof+bluetooth+speaker
took her out today and slammed em....
Vicdougle reply :
Finished my trailer tonight. Harbor freight trailer with two 4' x 4' carpeted plywood pieces. Used adhesive and staples to keep it all in place. Then carpeted the railing in the same way just to prevent side to side slipping while trailering. I made it into two pieces instead of one so the trailer can still fold and stow should I choose to do that. It's a nice feature of this trailer and I didn't want to lose it. The boat fits snug and placement keeps the weight forward. I think it will work great.
Vicdougle reply :
Picked up a 10' fiberglass rod from Grainger for 39 bucks. Sharpened one end and put a 3/4" PVC T-joint one the other. Wrapped top couple feet in electrical tape then Plasti-Dip sprayed over it to hold in place. Not really sure why though... Always tinkering. BPS has Light Pole Holders for a couple bucks that fit it perfect so I mounted those on the side and VIOLA! Cant decide if I wanna do the paracord to carabiner setup up or if I am just going to drop it through the 1" drain at the back of the boat... Any reason why that would be a bad idea? I think it would be pretty convenient....
nimbus2065 reply :
On 10/19/2016 at 10:02 AM, Vicdougle said:Picked up a 10' fiberglass rod from Grainger for 39 bucks. Sharpened one end and put a 3/4" PVC T-joint one the other. Wrapped top couple feet in electrical tape then Plasti-Dip sprayed over it to hold in place. Not really sure why though... Always tinkering. BPS has Light Pole Holders for a couple bucks that fit it perfect so I mounted those on the side and VIOLA! Cant decide if I wanna do the paracord to carabiner setup up or if I am just going to drop it through the 1" drain at the back of the boat... Any reason why that would be a bad idea? I think it would be pretty convenient....
The drain would probablybe a good idea the problemI found with mine is havin only 1 pole I spin.
Vicdougle reply :
On 10/20/2016 at 12:37 AM, nimbus2065 said:
The drain would probablybe a good idea the problemI found with mine is havin only 1 pole I spin.
Since the drain is centered at the back I was thinking if it a windy day or something I could just leave my TM on Low in the direction I wanna face and it would hold me.....? I'll try it out and let you know.
Vicdougle reply :
Went ahead and made a short video of the BR.
Swamp Rat reply :
Vicdougle, great job. Having run kayaks for the last 5 years, and because I am about to turn 61, I have been thinking about grabbing something like this. I also will make it mine with modifications, and you gave me a couple of additional ideas.
etex reply :
Vicdougle, nice work and I appreciate the video of your accomplishments. One thing you may want to consider is to load the boat on the trailer with the trolling motor to the rear. There are two advantages to this in that it is easier to get the boat started onto the trailer with the trailer backed onto the ramp. The other advantage is that the trolling motor does not hang out over your hitch without having to loosen the clamp and move it further into the boat. Forgetting to make that adjustment could result in damage to tailgate or trolling motor.
Nice work!
Bassnatcher reply :
Hello. This is a great boat. I've had mine for 3 years and have caught over 300 bass in it. I used to only paddle it. I made an 11 foot kayak paddle using a 9 foot steel clothes hanging rod and 2 paddle ends from a kayak paddle. Had to make it since no company makes one. Now I use a 30lb MK trolling motor mounted up front with the battery in the back for when I'm alone. When my cousin comes with me I mount his 55lb MK in the back. Both setups get us where we need to go. I prefer lakes that only kayaks and canoes can get on. This boat is perfect for that. I still bring my 11ft paddle since I need it when deep in the lilly pads here on the central FL lakes I fish. This paddle also works great as a push pole and I use it for that often. One of the paddle ends snapped off leaving 10% of the paddle end. I did not replace it since it still works as a paddle and I can use this end as the push pole end. I replaced my seats with some nice bass boat seats from Gander Mountain which cost about $214. Gets some good seats if you plan on being on your boat for 8 to 10 hours. I also made a transom mounted anchor deployment system. Works really well. I lined the floor with 1/2" closed cell foam then put 1/2" plywood on top. Makes standing and fishing a lot more stable than the stock plastic floor and it eliminates foot fatigue. I have not drilled any holes in my boat and don't plan to. The only way I would is if I could put a washer and nut on the inside but that's not possible unless you separate the top from the bottom. I know other people drill holes but this is my personal preference. I like not having to use a trailer. I just slide it into the bed of my jacked up Z71 and it's read to go.
The only thing I have to buy now is lures, line and batterys. Life is good.
For some reason I can't upload my pictures from my phone. I can only upload a picture by using my camera so next time I have my boat out I'll upload some pics.
"hamma" reply :
Bassnatcher, if you send your phones pics to facebook, they will automaticlly be sized to a smaller size, then you can load them from there, to here.
Someone here informed me of this and it worked for me
Yeajray231 reply :
On 11/10/2016 at 6:30 AM, "hamma" said:Bassnatcher, if you send your phones pics to facebook, they will automaticlly be sized to a smaller size, then you can load them from there, to here.
Someone here informed me of this and it worked for me
Or if you're on your phone you can just go to your gallery and crop them . In "photo details" you can see the image size. Adjust accordingly.
Advantage reply :
On 11/10/2016 at 6:30 AM, "hamma" said:Bassnatcher, if you send your phones pics to facebook, they will automaticlly be sized to a smaller size, then you can load them from there, to here.
Someone here informed me of this and it worked for me
Yup, that's how I do mine too.
Bassnatcher reply :
Thanks for trying to help. I am not on Facebook so th as Y's not an option.
I have a Galaxy S4 phone so not sure why I am not able to upload pictures. When I select the attachment icon on this site I am given 4 options. Camera, camcorder, voice recorder and documents. Gallery doesn't come up. I tried putting some pics on my 10 inch tablets screen and take a picture with my phone but got the pic size warning.
I am really puzzled why gallery doesn't come up as an option.
Oh well. I've really enjoyed reading all the posts on this thread about the bass raider. Nice to see others like this boat as much as me. Just wish I could post my pictures and possibly help others with what I've done.
Going out Saturday to a hard to access lake. No houses on it. No docs only thick woods. Only one way on through a 40 foot spooky path of 12 foot high reeds. Got to push pole it. This keeps most people off the lake. But once you get in open water it's a bass anglers dream. Spring fed lake with shallows, deep holes, lily pads and reeds. This weekend will be the 5th week in a row my cousin and I have gone. The best part.....haven't seen one other person on the lake every time we've been there. Catching nice bass every time. Looks like they've never been hooked before and fight like it too! Lovin life right now.
Reaper73 reply :
Been reading this thread a few times over the past couple of months. Loving the mods and tips. Bought a used BR10E back in July. Barely used, MK Endura 55, both seats, a little paddle and life vests. Not bad at $600. Used most every weekend, I average about 7hrs on Saturdays and Sundays. I was going out most days after work, until this early dark thing happened. I am using an old TM on the back as a rudder. Plus f my main TM goes down I have a backup. Will post a few pics soon..
"hamma" reply :
Seeing as I've had a 8' bass hunter for over 30 years, I figured I may find some upgrades on this thread, so I just finished reading all 99 pages yesterday. I found some helpful tips and will be finally adding a new seat,.yeah,..I still have the original plastic "bucket" seat, some clips for my oar, and maybe even a new telescoping oar at that. Even thinking of the push pole/anchor pole option as well. Which is actually a neat idea.
Ive had 2 anglers, 2 batteries, and 2 motors on it and actually did so on its maiden voyage. Its kinda tight, but so much fun, and I caught my pb bass off of it prefishing for a tourney with 2 anglers on it. Do I recommend 2 anglers on a 8 ftr? not really. If you plan on fishing 2 anglers off your puddlejumper, get a 10 ftr or bigger, you will need the room. Just because I was crazy many years ago, doesnt mean you need to be as well,...lol,
With the 2 motors and 2 batteries, larger waters, rivers, and long days on the water, were more available to me, as well as, the faster moving rig being better for short outings, pinpointed approaches, leaving the boat in the back of the truck for the next days outing, not having to re-group, and recharge the batteries, knowing its still got enough juice to "safely" use. I didnt ever have to switch a single motor from the front to back, ever have to paddle back to the ramp, or turn around to properly control the boats position. Having 2 motors and batteries is a "option" on these rigs, that I highly do recommend.
When loading and unloading at the ramp? I just take the 2 batteries, and the back motor off. My 8 rods are strapped in at both ends of the pontoons, I have a dry box for the saftey requirements and "essentials" positioned in the rear of the boat and tackle bag next to it. Life vest is attached to the seat. So, in and out,.. is a quick and easy deal.
Motors and batteries wiring have minn kota's quick connect plugs for all connections and I do recommend these as well. They make it alot easier to deal with all around. So nothing is really "loose", and only a few attachments are needed.
This allows a quicker and easier transition at the ramp, I'm in, and fishing in just about 3 minutes at the ramp, and same when heading home. I dont have boaters staring at me, with a hateful gaze, thinking I should be elsewhere. And "roadside" launchings go quicker too, so traffic really isnt a issue.
Before I got this boat I already had a full sized 8' foot bed on my truck. Once the boats in the bed, no tiedowns, no straps, close the tailgate and Im done. The seats never flew off on the highway as the seats were kinda hard to remove, and vests are not loose, nothing did I ever "loose". I did later get a cap for the bed, making it even better as rain doesn't pool up in the boat, and my "expensive" rods/reels aren't in the wide open for thieves to prey upon.
These puddlejumpers are unique, smart, and quite effecient if you set them up right. Over the years I've got alot of compliments, added a few upgrades, and had some incredible outings on it. And if this bass hunter ever goes to the junkyard? I will replace it with another similar rig. I do also have a deep-v tracker, but thats no good for the thousands of puddles holding great bass fishing.
I look back on the 30 years of fishing off this platform I've been graced with, and couldn't be happier with its performance, comfort, and adaptability. Ive fished on waters that range from tiny "puddles" right up to the Conn. river, and coves/ bays on Lake Winnepesaukee. Seen some simply incredible sunrises and sunsets all over New England, wildlife I never knew was present here, and found hidden "gems" on the web searching satillite images that I deem "incredipuddles" as the bass were untouched, large, and lure friendly. We, as pontoon puddlejumper owners have a great tool to use for our sport, we can hit waters bass boats cant, and even fish their lakes if we choose.
Just be careful out there, we are not invincible,.. just thrifty, fortunate, and capable.
In summary? things I'd recommend to "new" raider owners?
Use 2 motors and batteries, variable speed motors if possible and around 55 pd thrust, and check out the minn kota quick connect plugs, well worth the 10 bucks a set
add a fishfinder, doesnt need to be expensive
get a plano drybox for safety requirements and essentials ie: flares, flag, horn, docking ropes etc. but when out fishing ?, have the horn out and ready
Smaller tackleboxes/bags are your friend, you dont "need" a tackleshop out there with you.
add some rodstraps on both ends of the pontoons,..trust me here.
BE AWARE! large wakes, weather changing, and idiots out powerboating and not paying attention,... can be deadly. YES! DEADLY!,..... Its easy to get focused on "fishing" instead of "boating" on these rigs, so keep your wits about you
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 10/27/2016 at 9:45 PM, Vicdougle said:Went ahead and made a short video of the BR.
Great video! Did you silicone your transducer to trolling motor as well or is it solely attached with the meta clip?
Did you silicone the oar clips on or use screws?
Thanks for for the great ideas!
J Francho reply :
On 11/15/2016 at 11:23 PM, Okiefisher29 said:Did you silicone the oar clips on or use screws?
Silicone is for sealing, not for a fastener. You use screws, well nuts, rivets, or other fasteners to attach, and silicone to seal those fasteners.
etex reply :
OKiefisher great video and really neat ideas. I did some similar upgrades to mine. I ran my fish finder wires under the plywood floors though rather than cut into the boat. My floor is in 3 pieces similar to yours. Like the idea of the magnets siliconed to deck to hold needed accessories.
Okiefisher29 reply :
Found this today, not sure if it's been shared here or not. This is one of the cleanest little boats I've seen.....
Okiefisher29 reply :
anyone use these StickIt Anchor Pins? I know someone has made something similar. Can anyone give a tutorial on how to make something similar?
http://www.shop.stickitanchorpins.com/8-Stick-It-Anchor-Pin-System-52364.htm
coachfozz reply :
was looking at academy sports and their bass raider that is $100 cheaper than any other place. Is it worth me to drive to my closest one (328 miles) to buy one or just pay the extra $100
Okiefisher29 reply :
Would it cost you $100 in gas to go pick it up and return home? If not, I'd say go for it.
wnspain reply :
I'd say 656 miles is a long ways to save what, $30 after gas? At the very least, it's a full day trip plus the cost of gas, I'd opt for the closer location and pay a little more.
Vicdougle reply :
On 11/17/2016 at 1:51 AM, Okiefisher29 said:anyone use these StickIt Anchor Pins? I know someone has made something similar. Can anyone give a tutorial on how to make something similar?
http://www.shop.stickitanchorpins.com/8-Stick-It-Anchor-Pin-System-52364.htm
I went to Grainger and bought a 10' 3/4" fiberglass pole. Sharpened one end and epoxied a pvc T handle on the other end. Cost me 40 bucks. Works perfect.
wnspain reply :
Grainger must be high as giraffe privates, I made a 10'er from 1" PVC filled with hardwood dowels for less than $25. No way would I pay $89.95
Vicdougle reply :
On 12/1/2016 at 6:32 AM, wnspain said:Grainger must be high as giraffe privates, I made a 10'er from 1" PVC filled with hardwood dowels for less than $25. No way would I pay $89.95
Well I see it as a good deal because the professional ones are anywhere from a 100-300 bucks and I have an actual fiberglass one for 40 bucks that only weighs a couple pounds and won't deteriorate....
On 11/15/2016 at 11:23 PM, Okiefisher29 said:Great video! Did you silicone your transducer to trolling motor as well or is it solely attached with the meta clip?
Did you silicone the oar clips on or use screws?
Thanks for for the great ideas!
Thanks...I didn't silicone the transducer. I used silicone on the oar clips in addition to the screws. Everywhere I screwed anything into the boat I used silicone.
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
Hi Everyone,
I have been following this thread for some time now and I just bought a Bass Raider 10e from the local Dicks Sporting Goods in my area. When it was all said and done I got it for a steal at 499. With those savings I purchased a 45lb Minn Kota Riptide trolling motor and a Duracell Platinum AGM 31DTMAGM battery. I got a 1195lb Harbor Freight trailer, and trailer jack. So far this has been fun...I already have the boat, and trailer registered and I am just waiting for warmer weather. In the meantime I have ordered my Life Vest, built a pushanchor pole using the garden stake previously mentioned and some PVC, para-cord, and two carabiners. Almost forgot I picked up a Garmin Striker 4. I'm also building a power pack that I can plug a solar panel into...I actually already have that built I'm just waiting on the charge controller, flush mount sae port and Christmas so I can purchase my panel. I'm not looking to run the motor on solar but I want to be able to extend my fishing time by charging it on the go. I will also be using my portable back as an emergency back up and to charge phones, and run the fish sonar.
This has been a cool project so far, still got some work to do before I'm ready for spring, but man I'm loving it and I haven't even hit the water yet....darn it I almost forgot that I'm building a boat trolley so I can get the boat from parking lots to the waters edge.
RLP reply :
Hey Folks,
Thanks for the incredible shares and ideas here. Lonnie's intro above if very similar to mine. I am prepping to new 10E's for use this spring. Have trailer ready to go, made to stake-out poles and trolley out of PVC. Next up is the 3 piece floor carpeted and seat risers. Really trying to fabricate as much of the mods as possible as it is a way to save tons of money and is actually very fun when making these boats your own. Will keep a close eye on this forum as I believe this is the best way to get out there on small bodies of water and enjoy to the fullest.
See you all around!
RLP
trick worms reply :
I have a question. Bass raiders are so stable, have y'all ever flipped over in them?
"hamma" reply :
I have a basshunter, and not once in the 30+ years I've been using it. I have had large wakes flood me before, but never flipped or sank.
Advantage reply :
I've had a Pond Hopper (twin pontoon type) and now have a Bass Hound (tri-hull type) and have never came close to flipping either one over. Like Hamma said, I've had a wake or two come over the bow from idiots in bigger boats coming by too close and too fast but never even felt like I was in danger of overturning.
slimbo85 reply :
this whole thread is dynamite!
i just ordered a big foot trolling motor switch, what a thing of beauty this will turn out to be
trying to buy a 10e but i might wait for it to go on sale at canadian tire, its currently $1000 canadian
1. looking at all these mods im really feeling this design
does anyone know the measurements of this? think i seen it somewhere but i forgot to save it 
2. is an expensive battery overkill? gonna be getting a 55 thurst minn kota. was gonna grab this bad boy as i see alot of good reviews https://www.amazon.ca/Optima-Batteries-8016-103-BlueTop-Starting/dp/B00075OSCO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482395188&sr=8-1&keywords=Optima+Batteries+8016
3. i know im not gonna be setting any speed records but what kind of speed are we talking here?
4. i was going to mount the trolling motor on the back, im going to be trolling for pike a fair bit, is that the best spot? and if not what was in the best way to put it on the front? #moddingfordummies101
great work guys!
Advantage reply :
On 12/23/2016 at 5:53 AM, slimbo85 said:this whole thread is dynamite!
i just ordered a big foot trolling motor switch, what a thing of beauty this will turn out to be
trying to buy a 10e but i might wait for it to go on sale at canadian tire, its currently $1000 canadian
1. looking at all these mods im really feeling this design
does anyone know the measurements of this? think i seen it somewhere but i forgot to save it
2. is an expensive battery overkill? gonna be getting a 55 thurst minn kota. was gonna grab this bad boy as i see alot of good reviews https://www.amazon.ca/Optima-Batteries-8016-103-BlueTop-Starting/dp/B00075OSCO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482395188&sr=8-1&keywords=Optima+Batteries+8016
3. i know im not gonna be setting any speed records but what kind of speed are we talking here?
4. i was going to mount the trolling motor on the back, im going to be trolling for pike a fair bit, is that the best spot? and if not what was in the best way to put it on the front? #moddingfordummies101
great work guys!
I get high 3 mph range with my 55lb thrust TM. 3.7 to 3.8 mph range with 2 people and gear.
Okiefisher29 reply :
What are you all using for a measuring tape? I found a stick on one on amazon I like. Do you all have any recommendations?
Seat risers: What exactly do I need to raise my seat up? Currently just have the plastic seat on a bracket which fits in the hole. As seen below. Would like to raise them up a foot or so .
Advantage reply :
On 12/29/2016 at 2:23 AM, Okiefisher29 said:What are you all using for a measuring tape? I found a stick on one on amazon I like. Do you all have any recommendations?
Seat risers: What exactly do I need to raise my seat up? Currently just have the plastic seat on a bracket which fits in the hole. As seen below. Would like to raise them up a foot or so .
Got a stick on type from Academy for $0.37! And 18.5 inches of it fit perfectly on the lid of the livewell on my BassHound 9.4.
J Francho reply :
On 12/29/2016 at 2:23 AM, Okiefisher29 said:Currently just have the plastic seat on a bracket which fits in the hole. As seen below.
If the bracket is bolted, just shim the seat, and use longer bolts.
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 12/29/2016 at 3:03 AM, J Francho said:
If the bracket is bolted, just shim the seat, and use longer bolts.
That is a much cheaper idea, thanks!
MIG1773 reply :
Hi guys. Just recently discovered this site and decided to buy a bass raider as a result of this topic. Found a fair price on a used one with a brand new motor guide R3 40 lb thrust trolling motor. My question is, what is the ideal battery specs for this TM? I work for a battery company, so I pretty much have access to almost any batteries. That being the case, what battery specs should I try and get?
J Francho reply :
Series 29 12v marine deep cycle should be fine.
Advantage reply :
On 12/29/2016 at 2:58 AM, Advantage said:Got a stick on type from Academy for $0.37! And 18.5 inches of it fit perfectly on the lid of the livewell on my BassHound 9.4.
Also got a 14 inch seat extension pole from Academy for like $15-20 range that raises the seat up high enough to actually sit without your knees being at shoulder level! Lol
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 12/29/2016 at 7:14 AM, Advantage said:Also got a 14 inch seat extension pole from Academy for like $15-20 range that raises the seat up high enough to actually sit without your knees being at shoulder level! Lol
Can you attach a picture of you seat setup?
Is this what you got?
http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/attwood-lockn-pin-34-fixed-height-nonthreaded-pin-post#repChildCatid=10758
Advantage reply :
On 12/30/2016 at 1:37 AM, Okiefisher29 said:Can you attach a picture of you seat setup?
Is this what you got?
http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/attwood-lockn-pin-34-fixed-height-nonthreaded-pin-post#repChildCatid=10758
Yes, that's it, 11" extension pole. My bad, it's like 14" including the peg/insert part. (Don't have a pic with the seat extension in, sorry)
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
On 12/29/2016 at 4:06 AM, MIG1773 said:Hi guys. Just recently discovered this site and decided to buy a bass raider as a result of this topic. Found a fair price on a used one with a brand new motor guide R3 40 lb thrust trolling motor. My question is, what is the ideal battery specs for this TM? I work for a battery company, so I pretty much have access to almost any batteries. That being the case, what battery specs should I try and get?
On 12/29/2016 at 4:13 AM, J Francho said:Series 29 12v marine deep cycle should be fine.
I was looking to get a group 29 battery as well but found an awesome deal at Sam's Club on a Duracell Group 31 battery. Regular price was 179.82. I picked mine up for 94.00 plus 18.00 core charge, which I didn't think was bad. It is an AGM Deep Cycle Marine and RV Battery model 31DTMAGM. It's sealed and maintenance free and vibration resistant. I will say this...this battery has some weight to it so make sure you account for that when planning out your boat setup. I'm running a Minn Kota Riptide 45lb thrust trolling motor.
Reaper73 reply :
Got to do a little fishing before it got cold while off of work before the new year.. I did get a new seat for Christmas.
RLP reply :
Nice going Reaper! Is that a rudder fabricated on your rear trolling motor? If so please share the construct and materials. I have not seen that type of mod. The new seat looks awesome!
Okiefisher29 reply :
Searching for outboards to use on my basshound 10.2. I have someone offering me a briggs & Stratton 5hp 4stroke for a decent price. Anyone have any experience with this motor? Reviews I'm reading say its pretty loud since its aircooled. Here's a pic of it: 
Reaper73 reply :
On 1/9/2017 at 2:30 AM, RLP said:Nice going Reaper! Is that a rudder fabricated on your rear trolling motor? If so please share the construct and materials. I have not seen that type of mod. The new seat looks awesome!
Its just an old tm with plexiglass wire tied to it. taped up the power cord to the tm head..
"hamma" reply :
You may want to search through the 100 pages of this thread, there is a ton of info on attaching accessories, anchors, holders, and such. well worth the search.
I have a 8' basshunter and use 2 motors, and batteries, as I can reach both from the center of the rig. Whenever I need to anchor I just tie the rope to the seats bracket. But its rare that I do anchor.
NCbassraider reply :
These pedestals are a easy and cheap way to raise your seats in these boats. They come in 7" also.
http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/marine-raider-13-pedestal#repChildCatid=10817
kpla51 reply :
Picked up a pelican predator 103 off craigslist. Came with a trailer a 3.5hp outboard battery trolling motor and a few extras. I was going to get the 10e but for 300 more I snagged this one up. Ive been preparing it for this weekend too bad theres not a lot of info on them like the bass raiders.
Okiefisher29 reply :
That's a good looking boat. I have a Basshound 10.2 but I have been able to use some of the ideas from this thread on my boat even though its not a 10e. I bet you can do the same.
FATYAKKER reply :
On 1/9/2017 at 3:45 AM, Okiefisher29 said:Searching for outboards to use on my basshound 10.2. I have someone offering me a briggs & Stratton 5hp 4stroke for a decent price. Anyone have any experience with this motor? Reviews I'm reading say its pretty loud since its aircooled. Here's a pic of it:
I used to have one of these and by you posting a picture of it raised my blood pressure at the thought of it. I hated it and spent a lot of time and money repairing it. I had the mount that holds it on the transom break, I had the throttle handle break off yes the whole thing, and I had the prop deteriorate completely down to a nub when it hit some sand. The metal is cheap cast and wont withstand normal wear and tear. I could go on for days about how I hate this motor but I think I have made my point.
Eric.clark69 reply :
Okay, I'm looking for some better seat brackets that came with my Raider 10E. I'm a big guy and it seems that the aluminum brackets are giving in a little. Sometimes I feel like they're going to break on through and there I'll be...in the water. Does anyone know who sells a more sturdy heavy duty bracket?
Eric.clark69 reply :
On 5/22/2016 at 1:52 AM, racedad said:Went the not so creative route of making a rudder. Bought a $12 oar and $25 bracket.
Where did you get the bracket?
lt21football reply :
Winter here in PA and I'm going to get the boat in the garage for upgrades. I have some questions that hopefully some can help me out with..
1. Big Foot Switch - once this switch is spliced into TM, am i stuck using it? Basically I have a casting deck that I made that I am going to mount the switch to. However, if I am in a rush and want to go for a quick hour session, am I stuck bringing the casting deck with me each time (given the switch is mounted to it)? I have no experience with these switches so I apologize for the ignorance.
2. Fish Finder - What is the consensus here as to where to mount the transducer? I can obviously mount it to the TM, but for the sake of saving wires running along the boat, does it make sense to mount it to a fabricated pole next to my seat (the unit is going to be mounted right next to my seat)?
Thanks guys!
Vernon Utsinger reply :
I mounted mine on a block of wood tied to the Big Foot with plastic strips so it won't gouge the glas bottom but I use a floorboard. I rigged it portable so it can be removed easily. If you splice into the TM wires you will need it as the TM then only controls the speed not the propulsion.
Pic added
Vernon Utsinger reply :
My Bass Raider 10E and 5x8 trailer with 55# TM and other items is for sale. Purchased June 2016 and used 12 times.
Going back to a Bass Boat. On Craigs list Dallas in "Boats".
Vernon Utsinger reply :
On 1/17/2017 at 8:43 AM, Eric.clark69 said:Okay, I'm looking for some better seat brackets that came with my Raider 10E. I'm a big guy and it seems that the aluminum brackets are giving in a little. Sometimes I feel like they're going to break on through and there I'll be...in the water. Does anyone know who sells a more sturdy heavy duty bracket?
Use a pedestal and floorboard, see pics on post above.
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 1/13/2017 at 3:28 PM, FATYAKKER said:
I used to have one of these and by you posting a picture of it raised my blood pressure at the thought of it. I hated it and spent a lot of time and money repairing it. I had the mount that holds it on the transom break, I had the throttle handle break off yes the whole thing, and I had the prop deteriorate completely down to a nub when it hit some sand. The metal is cheap cast and wont withstand normal wear and tear. I could go on for days about how I hate this motor but I think I have made my point.
Well it sold before I even had a chance to look at it... probably a good thing.
WildmanWilson reply :
I'm thinking of getting a 10 foot boats from Academy. Can't remember the band. Maybe a Bass Raider...Anyway..what size trolling motor is big enough. I will not use a gas motor at all. I was thinking 40# would do it. Any suggestions?
lt21football reply :
On 1/25/2017 at 4:07 PM, WildmanWilson said:I'm thinking of getting a 10 foot boats from Academy. Can't remember the band. Maybe a Bass Raider...Anyway..what size trolling motor is big enough. I will not use a gas motor at all. I was thinking 40# would do it. Any suggestions?
Ive used both a 20lb thrust and now use a 45lb thrust on my boat. The 20lb definitely got me out fishing, but the 45lb gets me out fishing and fast. If you're buying new, spend the extra 35 bucks and get a 45 compared to a 40lb.
fishcat reply :
I second the idea to get at least a 40 lb. thrust trolling motor. I use a 40 and it's fine for my 8' Bass Raider when I fish alone. The new digital models look to be very efficient.
Advantage reply :
On 1/25/2017 at 4:07 PM, WildmanWilson said:I'm thinking of getting a 10 foot boats from Academy. Can't remember the band. Maybe a Bass Raider...Anyway..what size trolling motor is big enough. I will not use a gas motor at all. I was thinking 40# would do it. Any suggestions?
40 lb thrust would work but 50 to 55 lb range would be better.
N Florida Mike reply :
On 1/26/2017 at 1:20 AM, fishcat said:I second the idea to get at least a 40 lb. thrust trolling motor. I use a 40 and it's fine for my 8' Bass Raider when I fish alone. The new digital models look to be very efficient.
^^ What I use
Okiefisher29 reply :
those of you with trailers, take a look at these pics. Notice my boat is not even touching the keel rollers. Would you change anything with this setup?
Sorry, not sure why my pics uploaded sideways
WildmanWilson reply :
I've found a Bass hunter that's 9.5 foot long but its shallower than the Bass Raiders. Anyone have any issues with the Bass Hunter being too shallow and having water come in? The Hunter is more expensive new and looks to be one piece rather than two with the Raider.
N Florida Mike reply :
I have an 8 foot hunter and love it.Not sure what you mean by shallower but very little water comes into mine.Its perfect when Im by myself or with my 11 year old G- daughter.I suspect it would be small for 2 men my size ,although its rated for 470 pounds.Its very stable and goes suprisingly fast with my 40 pt trolling motor.
Got the motor on the front and my hunter has the wiring for it so Im fixing to get some terminals for the front so I can have the battry in back to displace the weight.
WildmanWilson reply :
By shallow I mean the height of the side walls. The Hunter looks like it rides much lower in the water. In pictures it looks like there's less above water.
N Florida Mike reply :
It may be lower than the raider but I have no problem with it. It is very buoyant even with all the weight in the front.It sits higher than my jon boat!
It isnt best for a big water body though,although I was going directly into 15-20 mph winds with no problem.It handles waves better than you would think
N Florida Mike reply :
mine is actually 9.5 feet long. Great little boat for small water bodies
frosty reply :
Ok guys, my wonderful bride has given me the thumbs up for a bass raider 10e, we looked at them in a store tonight and she thinks the 12' Jon boat would be better. I noticed that it does look roomier, since we would occasionally bring our young (3) son with us. I think the bass raider will be much more stable, and it has almost 100 pounds more capacity. Anyone have experience with both that can offer some insight?
Advantage reply :
On 2/5/2017 at 12:01 PM, frosty said:Ok guys, my wonderful bride has given me the thumbs up for a bass raider 10e, we looked at them in a store tonight and she thinks the 12' Jon boat would be better. I noticed that it does look roomier, since we would occasionally bring our young (3) son with us. I think the bass raider will be much more stable, and it has almost 100 pounds more capacity. Anyone have experience with both that can offer some insight?
The stability of the 10e (twin poontoon types) is vastly superior to the jon boat types.
frosty reply :
On 2/5/2017 at 8:53 PM, Advantage said:The stability of the 10e (twin poontoon types) is vastly superior to the jon boat types.
Thank you, I assumed it would be. While I think the jon would have more potential for storage options, I think I'm going to stick with the 10e.
"hamma" reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 6:45 AM, WildmanWilson said:I've found a Bass hunter that's 9.5 foot long but its shallower than the Bass Raiders. Anyone have any issues with the Bass Hunter being too shallow and having water come in? The Hunter is more expensive new and looks to be one piece rather than two with the Raider.
I've owned a 8' basshunter for over 30 years now,..Ive had 2 full grown guys on it with 2 batteries and 2 motors,... on windy days? I wouldnt recommend it as heavier waves will breach it with 2 anglers aboard. But on calm days? no problems at all, just a bit tight room wise.
When I fish alone even the waves from other boats and mildly windy days dont effect me at all, as long as I point it into the waves as one should anyways. I have never swamped, or sank it. Love that little rig.
N Florida Mike reply :
I have the 9.5 bass hunter and a 12 foot jon boat.And love both.T o me,the hunter is more comfortable.I have the factory chairs but they support me well ( at 260 pounds )It is also cooler because youre up a little higher and it allows better air flow under the seat.Ive learned to just swivel around if you need something behind you.You can even fish facing sideways and still reach the trolling motor which I have on front.The hunter s very stable for being so small.
The jon boat would be better for bigger water and you could put a bigger motor on it.It has more room but not much more.You could customize it to allow more room.I have fished many times in my jon with one other person and its fine.3 would be cramped on either boat,but a small child would work for a while with 2 adults .Esp. on the jon.I f possible,try sitting in both before you buy to see how much room youd have.
I also have a 2 seater kayak that Im not overly crazy about.
Advantage reply :
I have a BassHound 9.4, which is more like a tri-hull than a twin pontoon type and it's very stable even with 2 people and gear. BassHound does make one a little bigger (the 10.4) which does have just that little extra room.
Bassin_0502 reply :
Does anybody use the 40" x 48" Harbor Freight trailers for these boats? I know several of you have posted that you use HF trailers, but I'm curious how well the 48" ones work. Seem like they would be too short for a 10 foot boat?
frosty reply :
Well I'm joining the plastic boat club. Picked up a 10E today at dicks sporting goods. I'm looking at a 40lb thrust trolling motor. I've got plans to make a small box to hold about 10 +/- 3700 series boxes that will sit under the back seat, and I picked up a small Rubbermaid tote that will go under the front seat to keep my soft plastics in. I'll post pics when I get the box all done.
slimbo85 reply :
so i grabbed the sun dolphin pro 102 and was just wondering what is the best way to mount the fish finder?
thanks guys
"hamma" reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 11:15 AM, N Florida Mike said:Got the motor on the front and my hunter has the wiring for it so Im fixing to get some terminals for the front so I can have the battry in back to displace the weight.
I installed minn kotas quick battery connectors, got em from walmart.com 10 bucks a set, well worth it and wally world free shipped it to store for me.
I liked the connectors so much I bought some more to attach both batteries as well, even went so far as to add them to my charger in my tracker. (which really helps)
Just plug them in and done.
This is the deal!
My basshunter came with thru hull wiring from the factory,. I just attached one of these connecters on the front hull wire, and the trolling motor,..and another connector for the back hull wire, and the battery. Quick easy clean connections both up front and in the back,...
I used the clamp on posts for this battery so the wingnut terminals are open for me to attach it inline 24 volt on my tracker.
WildmanWilson reply :
So I've seen guys make a rudder and put the fish finder transducer on the bottom? Seems it would be a good chance to break it off. Anyone run into this problem? Is it better not to incorporate it with the rudder? By the way, I did end up buying a 9.5 ft bass hunter. Just working on primping it out now. Hope I'm not being a pest with the questions.
N Florida Mike reply :
I looked into getting a rudder for mine but haven't yet. I put a heavy piece of concrete in the back to weigh it down ,and moved the battery back to about halfway.I sit in the front and have the trolling motor up front.If someone goes with me it also weighs down the back and there is no problem steering .
It will steer fine as long as the back is weighed down some.
Sheldon Williams reply :
Hi guys,
im new to the Bassraider "nation" (LOL).
im interested in installing a Bimini top so that I can be out on the water without frying on those hot summer days.
has anyone tried this before?
Sheldon Williams reply :
On 7/31/2010 at 6:34 AM, Red said:The floor is a must in my opinion, especially if you like to stand. One problem I forgot to mention about the floor, it makes it alot heavier. I think I am going to cut mine in half seems I am mostly by myself. I will just keep the floor piece in front where I am fishing. I suppose you could run the wires under the floor, but I take my boat off and store it by my house so it would just be hassle each time. I am considering putting a quick disconnect on all the wiring so I could run it under then just leave it there. Then plug everything in each time. Either way, everything works great, I love this little rig. It is cheap and easy, just the way I like it! ;D
I have been trying to organize a club/tournament in my area for small boats, just isn't enough interest though. Too bad, I think it would be fun.
Canam13 reply :
Hello all,
i am going to buy a Harbour freight trailer (4x8 1195lb utility)for my 10e. I was wondering how everyone launches and loads thier boat? Have some ideas, but figured I would ask the folks that are doing it with that type of setup already.
Driving a 07 sierra, so I doubt I'll be able to see the little boat/trailer while towing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!!
frosty reply :
On 2/22/2017 at 3:18 AM, Canam13 said:Hello all,
i am going to buy a Harbour freight trailer (4x8 1195lb utility)for my 10e. I was wondering how everyone launches and loads thier boat? Have some ideas, but figured I would ask the folks that are doing it with that type of setup already.
Driving a 07 sierra, so I doubt I'll be able to see the little boat/trailer while towing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!!
Put your tailgate down if there's room, and you can attach a pole to the back corner of the trailer so you can see where it is in your mirror.
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 2/20/2017 at 11:48 PM, slimbo85 said:so i grabbed the sun dolphin pro 102 and was just wondering what is the best way to mount the fish finder?
thanks guys
I have a basshound10.2 and I have the fish finder mounted up at the bow. Have the transducer mounted to the trolling motor. I bought it used and the original owner had the transducer mounted on the rear of the boat and the fish finder in the middle of the seats. I use my TM at the bow so I never really could see the FF with it being mounted there.
On 2/22/2017 at 3:18 AM, Canam13 said:Hello all,
i am going to buy a Harbour freight trailer (4x8 1195lb utility)for my 10e. I was wondering how everyone launches and loads thier boat? Have some ideas, but figured I would ask the folks that are doing it with that type of setup already.
Driving a 07 sierra, so I doubt I'll be able to see the little boat/trailer while towing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!!
I second the tailgate down suggestion. As far as launches go, I found it easiest to have a rope on the front of the boat, push it off the trailer and beach it or dock it while you pull your trailer out. Loading is the reverse when I'm alone. If I have a buddy, I throw him the rope and have him pull me up. I don't go to many busy boat ramps so this application wouldn't work everywhere. having an outboard on the back would make loading/unloading much easier, it's on my list of to-do's.
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 2/21/2017 at 9:26 PM, Sheldon Williams said:Hi guys,
im new to the Bassraider "nation" (LOL).
im interested in installing a Bimini top so that I can be out on the water without frying on those hot summer days.
has anyone tried this before?
There is atleast one picture in this thread of someone who is using an umbrella. You might search the thread.....
frosty reply :
So what are you guys using for rod storage? I've seen a few on YouTube that have a top on them to hold the rods securely. I'm concerned my 3 year old will think throwing my rods in the water will be a good idea!
slimbo85 reply :
cant wait until pike opener....so far away ughhhhh
Tommy X reply :
A friend and I are going to set up the BR for night fishing, light bar and LED's. I want a slick install without wires hanging about. Has anyone taken a BR apart? Take the top half off, I mean. I would like to know what to expect. If I screw this up I won't have a boat this season. We're both mechanically inclined. Can we break anything? I have mounted things to the boat and drilled into it so far, without a problem
Canam13 reply :
On 2/23/2017 at 9:48 AM, Tommy X said:A friend and I are going to set up the BR for night fishing, light bar and LED's. I want a slick install without wires hanging about. Has anyone taken a BR apart? Take the top half off, I mean. I would like to know what to expect. If I screw this up I won't have a boat this season. We're both mechanically inclined. Can we break anything? I have mounted things to the boat and drilled into it so far, without a problem
i think i remember seeing a post in here, when someone took a BR apart. If I remember, its stapled together at the seems. I've also read that folks have just fished their own wiring through and around most of the inner parts of the hull. With the self stick auto LED's out now, should be fairly easy once the wiring is run. Post a pic when done, love to see it.
On 2/21/2017 at 9:26 PM, Sheldon Williams said:Hi guys,
im new to the Bassraider "nation" (LOL).
im interested in installing a Bimini top so that I can be out on the water without frying on those hot summer days.
has anyone tried this before?
Sheldon,
Check out the end of the video, "vic" has a umbrella rigged to the seat. He has some great ideas for BR mods, as many of the folks here do!
Sheldon Williams reply :
Yes,
i saw this video..the umbrella idea is fine if you don't care about cosmetics... I wanna install something that looks like it belongs.
N Florida Mike reply :
I'd call the manufacturer.
Reaper73 reply :
On 2/25/2017 at 1:53 AM, Sheldon Williams said:Yes,
i saw this video..the umbrella idea is fine if you don't care about cosmetics... I wanna install something that looks like it belongs.
If you don't mind a parachute with limited room. a bimini top may be nice if your tight lining but having a top will limit you casting ability a lot.
Bassin_0502 reply :
Just picked a trailer at Harbor Freight, 4'x8' folding set up. Paid $259.99. Now comes the assembly!
NCbassraider reply :
After trying several ways to transport my Pelican from storage down to the water with out pushing or carrying I found Dynamic Boat Dollies online and decided to spend a little for convenience and man am I glad I did.
They custom build it for your exact model boat but since it's modular it ships within 48 hrs. I had mine 4 days after ordering. Now the one pictured is a bit big for the Pelican that is on it but I had it made for the Sun Dolphin Pro 120 with casting decks which is a little bigger and I am ordering soon.
It is all aluminum so it is strong, very light (65 lbs) and is made to be submerged in the water. Very simple to assemble. I wish I had done this years ago. This particular dolly will hold up to 350 lbs. I can easily load it myself and move with ease even up hill and the boat pictured weighs about 225 lbs with battery, trolling and gear.
Highly recommended.
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etex reply :
On 2/21/2017 at 1:18 PM, Canam13 said:
Hello all,
i am going to buy a Harbour freight trailer (4x8 1195lb utility)for my 10e. I was wondering how everyone launches and loads thier boat? Have some ideas, but figured I would ask the folks that are doing it with that type of setup already.
Driving a 07 sierra, so I doubt I'll be able to see the little boat/trailer while towing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!!
Put your tailgate down if there's room, and you can attach a pole to the back corner of the trailer so you can see where it is in your mirror.
I recommend loading it backwards with the trolling motor)bow) at the back of the boat. This gives you two advantages. First you can actually begin the loading by getting the boat started up the trailer. Second, is that you don't have to worry about the trolling motor kitting the back of your tailgate when turning if you forget to move it back into the boat.
Sheldon Williams reply :
On 2/25/2017 at 11:27 PM, Reaper73 said:If you don't mind a parachute with limited room. a bimini top may be nice if your tight lining but having a top will limit you casting ability a lot.
I bought a new Bimini top that should fit my needs.. I will take pics and post once it's installed
MrTightLInes reply :
Woo! I made it to the end! lol.. this tab has been open for over a week, and I read every single word. Heck, I'm going to go back over it again after this post.
I got my Bass Raider 10e August, last year, and have had so much fun out of this little boat.
I bought a Minn Kota 55 lb with the largest deep cell battery I could get at the time ($150 battery at Dicks..will get specs later). Also have an 8lb mushroom anchor, that I just wrapped around my seat to hold in place. I also quickly installed a plywood deck inside after reading this thread quickly through just before purchasing the boat last year. I have never tried this boat without the floor, but from what I read last year...the floor was a must!
After reading here, I have purchased cleats for each side of the boat, to hold my anchor in place. A "Bigfoot" pedal for the TM. I have marine carpet and adhesive to lay on the plywood. Bought 2 new really nice seats for it yesterday.
Now I have to buy a push pole type of thing (sorting out what to do after reading all your posts). Thinking of mounting TM to the front and putting a rudder in the rear. I'm sick of bending my arm back to control it and now with the bigfoot it'd be REALLY good to put it in the front I think. I bought a Deeper Pro+ Sonar this winter using credit card points I had built up. Now, I need to do some type of RAM mount thing for a tablet to pair up with it. Not 100% how I'm going to attach it to the boat, but I was just thinking some braid line and tie it to the handle. Also going to add some straps to each top rail so that the poles can be "secure" a bit.. lol. Always worry about a pole going into the deep
Anyways, just figured I'd drop in and thank you all for this epic thread! Some excellent info in here on our little amazing rigs!
Chowderhead reply :
On 2/23/2017 at 5:56 AM, frosty said:I'm concerned my 3 year old will think throwing my rods in the water will be a good idea!
I had the boat for only 1/2 a season last year and I had 2 rods, on separate days, go overboard. Thankfully caught 1 before it sank and got lucky and snagged the other from the bottom. I am still looking for some strapping system to secure the rods.
MrTightLInes reply :
QuoteI had the boat for only 1/2 a season last year and I had 2 rods, on separate days, go overboard. Thankfully caught 1 before it sank and got lucky and snagged the other from the bottom. I am still looking for some strapping system to secure the rods.
There was one displayed a few times in posts past. Looks very simple, and similar to how real bass boats "strap down" on the deck. Small bungees and those small mount plastic things you screw into the boat. I can't wait to do this mod! Simple, quick and effective!
frosty reply :
On 3/1/2017 at 2:00 AM, MrTightLInes said:
There was one displayed a few times in posts past. Looks very simple, and similar to how real bass boats "strap down" on the deck. Small bungees and those small mount plastic things you screw into the boat. I can't wait to do this mod!
Dang it, I was really hoping to not have to put holes in this thing. I think I'm going to try some industrial self stick Velcro. Maybe cut some pvc pipes in half and put the Velcro around it so I don't have to put holes in it.
wr1nkles reply :
Hey all, new to the forum and looking to get one of these as I am tired of being stuck on the shore. I know this thread has been going for years and wonder how your boats have held up.
Looking at the Pelican originally, but the Sun Dolphin is 45lbs lighter to start and a little cheaper. I'm going to be loading it in/out of my Tacoma truck bed by myself most times so any weight saved would be nice.
So to those pelican, sun dolphin sportsman owners... how have they held up?
Thanks and look forward to joining in on this awesome thread!
NCbassraider reply :
I've been in about all of them and have a few observations. (I will leave the Sun Dolphin Pro 120 out of this discussion as it is by far the best plastic hulled boat but a big jump up in money.)
I currently own the Pelican Predator 103. It is by far the most stable of the boats in it's class and the best bang for your buck. Two big guys can stand up to fish with no issues.
It only weighs 140 lbs. They are very durable on the water but pushing them on ground can easily damage them over a short period of time as small rocks and sticks are capable of puncturing the hull. Pushing or pulling them on concrete for even a few inches is a no no. They quickly wear down on the contact points and will crack. There is a good plastic welding kit out there for about $70 that Pelican recommends and works great and can get you back in the water in minutes.
You will want to have two people to carry it to the water or buy a boat dolly like the one I reviewed earlier on this page.
Academy seems to always beat everyone on the Pelican prices by quite a bit. I think I saw this boat the other day for $800.
The Bass Raider is a nice boat too but not quite as stable. The beam is almost a foot shorter so it stands to reason it would be less stable but the fact that the pontoons give only a narrow space to stand makes it difficult.
The Intruder 12" Jon boat is spacious but also not very stable with a beam of only 48". The bench seats are very uncomfortable to sit in for any stretch of time and traditional Jon boat seat clamps don't work on the plastic seats so you won't be able to mount swivel seats without some serious customization.
For moving it yourself, remember that a battery will add about 40lbs and a trolling motor another 20. Also, invest in a 15 lb anchor as just a little wind blows these boats around like a ping pong ball.
If you can back your truck right to the water, any of them can be moved by one guy. You can put the battery and motor in after the boat is in the water, otherwise I would bring a friend.
Chowderhead reply :
On 3/1/2017 at 2:00 AM, MrTightLInes said:Small bungees and those small mount plastic things you screw into the boat. I can't wait to do this mod!
Please post pics when you do this - I really need to find something to secure my rods.
MrTightLInes reply :
On 3/5/2017 at 6:39 AM, Chowderhead said:
Please post pics when you do this - I really need to find something to secure my rods.
My Lowrance Hook 5 will be here Monday, and my Raider is now just about entirely rigged! I did a lot over the last week on it, and will get pics as soon as I can and explain each mod and where I put it.
I'm very very happy with the end result.
You know what, I'll even post a video on YouTube probably. Do a little VLOG thing.
MrTightLInes reply :
Well I went out to take the video and my GoPro battery..... Yep, the battery was dead so no video today. Also, the sun was coming through the garage doors in such a way that it made composition for the pictures terrible.
Never the less, here's some shots I took today Please excuse the boat being dirty. I figured mod it, then let it warm up and wash it before I take it out for a year worth of slime.
Did loads of upgrades. The Lowrance Hook 5 will be here tomorrow, but I already installed the RAM mount for it and bought a dedicated battery for it. I installed 2 anchor cleats, one on each side near the back. I installed Pad Eye anchors for tiny bungee's to strap down the poles on each side of the Raider (took a picture of the screws I used. I do not use the screws that come with the pad eyes). Added a donated old Die Hard trolling motor that works! It's on the back mostly acting as a rudder for the front mounted motor, that I installed a "Big Foot" switch on. Also added a nice marine grade carpet to the plywood flooring. I will LOVE this, especially during the summer! Added front and back lights for it, and registered the boat so I'm legal to go in any waters I dare take it! lol. Majorly upgraded the seats!! Those 10-15+ hour days will feel loads better now.
Here's some shots. Excuse the dirty boat please.
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WildmanWilson reply :
Looks good on the upgrades but wondering if the anchor cleats will hold with just screws. Seems a possibility they could put out under a load.
MrTightLInes reply :
On 3/6/2017 at 10:02 AM, WildmanWilson said:Looks good on the upgrades but wondering if the anchor cleats will hold with just screws. Seems a possibility they could put out under a load.
We will find out for sure! I know I yanked on them pretty good and it would certainly take a lot of force.
WildmanWilson reply :
Keep us updated. I may do the same.
Was also wondering what people put their fish in. I've always used a floating wire fish basket. If it gets very full I always pull it in before moving any great distance. Can be a bit of a hassle but it's the only thing I can think of to do.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 3/6/2017 at 12:56 PM, WildmanWilson said:Was also wondering what people put their fish in...
I put mine in a large container called the lake...
Years back, I made a livewell out of an old cooler (there was an aeration kit for DIY). If you fish by yourself, you could use that in the back of the boat - it would help counterbalance your weight on the front. If there will normally be 2 of you, then you might have to get a little creative with it and figure out how to get one under the seat.
Advantage reply :
On 3/6/2017 at 5:26 AM, MrTightLInes said:Well I went out to take the video and my GoPro battery..... Yep, the battery was dead so no video today. Also, the sun was coming through the garage doors in such a way that it made composition for the pictures terrible.
Never the less, here's some shots I took today
Did loads of upgrades. The Lowrance Hook 5 will be here tomorrow, but I already installed the RAM mount for it and bought a dedicated battery for it. I installed 2 anchor cleats, one on each side near the back. I installed Pad Eye anchors for tiny bungee's to strap down the poles on each side of the Raider (took a picture of the screws I used. I do not use the screws that come with the pad eyes). Added a donated old Die Hard trolling motor that works! It's on the back mostly acting as a rudder for the front mounted motor, that I installed a "Big Foot" switch on. Also added a nice marine grade carpet to the plywood flooring. I will LOVE this, especially during the summer! Added front and back lights for it, and registered the boat so I'm legal to go in any waters I dare take it! lol. Majorly upgraded the seats!! Those 10-15+ hour days will feel loads better now.
Here's some shots. Excuse the dirty boat please.
Not trying to be a party pooper, but found out the hard way myself, silicone caulk won't work long term on these type of boats. They are made of HDPE (high density polyethylene) and caulk will not adhere to them and will begin to allow water inside the shell. There is a HPDE glue you can get from Sun Dolphin I believe and it will actually adhere to the plastic and then use the caulk over it.
MrTightLInes reply :
On 3/6/2017 at 7:32 PM, Advantage said:Not trying to be a party pooper, but found out the hard way myself, silicone caulk won't work long term on these type of boats. They are made of HDPE (high density polyethylene) and caulk will not adhere to them and will begin to allow water inside the shell. There is a HPDE glue you can get from Sun Dolphin I believe and it will actually adhere to the plastic and then use the caulk over it.
Thank you very much for caring! It's really appreciated Advantage!
With that said, these few small holes, with the amount of silicone (waterproof silicon) I used on the screws and the area...I'm not worried about these TINY holes well above the waterline!! I will never get water in the hull unless I flip this thing, and even then it would take pushing it down to even have that happen more than likely. I'm not worried about it too much.
Unless the screws fall out, I shouldn't have any real problems. Rain and splashing won't get water in the hull with what I have done here.
I'd love to hear your personal experience a bit more in depth though! I don't want sound stubborn or anything, I just feel sure of myself here.
Advantage reply :
On 3/6/2017 at 7:51 PM, MrTightLInes said:
Thank you very much for caring! It's really appreciated Advantage!
With that said, these few small holes, with the amount of silicone (waterproof silicon) I used on the screws and the area...I'm not worried about these TINY holes well above the waterline!! I will never get water in the hull unless I flip this thing, and even then it would take pushing it down to even have that happen more than likely. I'm not worried about it too much.
Unless the screws fall out, I shouldn't have any real problems. Rain and splashing won't get water in the hull with what I have done here.
I'd love to hear your personal experience a bit more in depth though! I don't want sound stubborn or anything, I just feel sure of myself here.
Any waves or rain can get water inside the hull that way. And I was wrong, it's not Sun Dolphin who has the repair kit. It's Pedal Boats website that has it. The way I found out is I bought my BassHound 9.4 used and it has a livewell in it and noticed the drain plug area was allowing water in as well as the 2 areas on the aft that they used to inject the floatation foam inside the hull were taking on water, due mostly to age I assume, I tried to use silicone caulk...it didn't work so started doing some research and found out about HDPE and the HPDE cement/epoxy.
Also installed the base for my gps/depthfinder on the lid for the battery compartment and used screws/silicone.
MrTightLInes reply :
On 3/6/2017 at 8:28 PM, Advantage said:Any waves or rain can get water inside the hull that way. And I was wrong, it's not Sun Dolphin who has the repair kit. It's Pedal Boats website that has it. The way I found out is I bought my BassHound 9.4 used and it has a livewell in it and noticed the drain plug area was allowing water in as well as the 2 areas on the aft that they used to inject the floatation foam inside the hull were taking on water, due mostly to age I assume, I tried to use silicone caulk...it didn't work so started doing some research and found out about HDPE and the HPDE cement/epoxy.
Now this fully explains it. Those holes are so close to the water line (low on the vessel., etc) and the drain plug probably nearly always had water on it. Also, it's old and you tried to silicon all that stuff in place without taking it apart and reinstalling? Yeah, it's going to leak.
I'm 110% less worried now, thank you Advantage. I truly don't think I have a single thing to worry about, but I'm a mans man and if I get a leak I will come right back in here and tell you I'm sorry I didn't listen ahead of time and that you were right. This will not be the case though, hah
Thanks again for looking out! Sorry about your experience
Advantage reply :
On 3/6/2017 at 8:30 PM, MrTightLInes said:
Now this fully explains it. Those holes are so close to the water line (low on the vessel., etc) and the drain plug probably nearly always had water on it. Also, it's old and you tried to silicon all that stuff in place without taking it apart and reinstalling? Yeah, it's going to leak.
I'm 110% less worried now, thank you Advantage. I truly don't think I have a single thing to worry about, but I'm a mans man and if I get a leak I will come right back in here and tell you I'm sorry I didn't listen ahead of time and that you were right. This will not be the case though, hah
Thanks again for looking out! Sorry about your experience
Wasn't necessarily saying that this applies to you right here right now and in this instance. Was just putting it out there in general to everyone who thinks using silicone caulk only as a sealant will work. Just trying to help the group overall.
MrTightLInes reply :
On 3/6/2017 at 8:42 PM, Advantage said:Wasn't necessarily saying that this applies to you right here right now and in this instance. Was just putting it out there in general to everyone who thinks using silicone caulk only as a sealant will work. Just trying to help the group overall.
Awesome! That's great, and I definitely don't want to "nay say" anything. Heck, I'm purely a noob... unfortunately I tend to be a very confident noob, which sometimes doesn't go well
That's a great thing to know, and I certainly would've bought a more proper item had I known ahead of time, so thanks again for putting it in the thread! I would have to agree to use whatever is best near water lines and heck, anywhere really, but in my issue I think I'm going to be in very good shape. Near the waterline, I'd want to do the most proper thing possible as well! Cheers man.
MrTightLInes reply :
The Lowrance Hook 5 came and it's now installed. I installed the transducer to the trolling motor with the proper bracket, and I made a small spot to hold my battery for the sonar.
There's a slow moving river that's open up here, that I may head out in tomorrow. Supposed to hit 50 degrees, so maybe I will even get a fish to bite. Mostly going to test out the raider now that I've added all the mods. Get used to the Lowrance and things of that nature.
Chowderhead reply :
On 3/8/2017 at 7:38 AM, MrTightLInes said:The Lowrance Hook 5 came and it's now installed. I installed the transducer to the trolling motor with the proper bracket, and I made a small spot to hold my battery for the sonar.
There's a slow moving river that's open up here, that I may head out in tomorrow. Supposed to hit 50 degrees, so maybe I will even get a fish to bite. Mostly going to test out the raider now that I've added all the mods. Get used to the Lowrance and things of that nature.
Wow, looks great.
MrTightLInes reply :
On 3/8/2017 at 7:44 AM, Chowderhead said:
Wow, looks great.
Thank you very much Chowderhead. I can't wait to get it on the water!
WildmanWilson reply :
So I just bought a used Bass Hunter EV and I've decided it's a horrible design. The seats slide on an aluminum rail and makes it nearly impossible to put them in. I took a cutting wheel and cut the lip off one side and it's much easier now.
The part that I hate the most is there's no place to put rods. It has raised cup holders and storage that leaves no flat area and no lip on the outside to keep them from falling out. I was looking to put a bungee cord on it to at least strap them down but they are all still stacked in a pile and get tangled once you try and use a different rod.
I think it's one piece molded design it very good but the engineering is horrible. If anyone has a better way to store the rods let me know. Otherwise I'm selling it.
frosty reply :
There's a couple videos on YouTube that show different rod holders. I guess you could make a small rod locker in the bottom but then you're going to sacrifice already minimal floor space.
N Florida Mike reply :
Sometimes I keep one rod on both sides railings.I keep extra rods in the bottom with them sticking up over the rails.Four rods is usually all I carry anyway.
I love mine.I give up some space but it's more comfortable with the seats,compared to my jboat
Advantage reply :
On 3/9/2017 at 6:15 AM, WildmanWilson said:So I just bought a used Bass Hunter EV and I've decided it's a horrible design. The seats slide on an aluminum rail and makes it nearly impossible to put them in. I took a cutting wheel and cut the lip off one side and it's much easier now.
The part that I hate the most is there's no place to put rods. It has raised cup holders and storage that leaves no flat area and no lip on the outside to keep them from falling out. I was looking to put a bungee cord on it to at least strap them down but they are all still stacked in a pile and get tangled once you try and use a different rod.
I think it's one piece molded design it very good but the engineering is horrible. If anyone has a better way to store the rods let me know. Otherwise I'm selling it.
That's one of the reasons I went the BassHound, I can put 3 rods on each side...4 on each side can be done but starts to be a pain at that point. I am going to be going with some kind of tod strap/bungee strap system this year for a little extra safety though.
Fishing Rhino reply :
Contrary to popular opinion, there are no Pelican Bass Raider owners out there. It would be easier to find a unicorn. It's a conspiracy. Conspiracy I tell ya.
This one is fully decked out in camo for stealth.
Fishing Rhino reply :
Pictures can be misleading. By itself, you might possibly conclude that I am a Pelican Bass Raider owner. However, you would be wrong. That is my daughter's boat on a small pond that abuts her property. See, I am not a PBR owner.
But, I do like it even though I use a paddle for propulsion. No need of anything more for a pond of about two acres.
frosty reply :
On 3/10/2017 at 8:35 AM, Fishing Rhino said:Pictures can be misleading. By itself, you might possibly conclude that I am a Pelican Bass Raider owner. However, you would be wrong. That is my daughter's boat on a small pond that abuts her property. See, I am not a PBR owner.
But, I do like it even though I use a paddle for propulsion. No need of anything more for a pond of about two acres.
I guess I'm not either, technically. My beautiful bride paid for it, so even though it's titled and registered under my name, I guess it her boat 
Fishing Rhino reply :
On 3/10/2017 at 8:41 AM, frosty said:I guess I'm not either, technically. My beautiful bride paid for it, so even though it's titled and registered under my name, I guess it her boat
LOL. See, what did I tell ya.
Reaper73 reply :
On 3/1/2017 at 8:05 AM, frosty said:Dang it, I was really hoping to not have to put holes in this thing. I think I'm going to try some industrial self stick Velcro. Maybe cut some pvc pipes in half and put the Velcro around it so I don't have to put holes in it.
I just used a small bungee cord from my seat bracket to the lip on the side of the boat.. Has worked very well and is quick and easy to swap out poles fast.
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
Speaking of holes...when I reached out to Pelican about running wires through the hull of these boats and asked about the warranty in relation to putting holes in the boat to mount accessories they advised that putting any hole in the boat would void the warranty. Has anyone thought twice about mounting stuff to their boat due to the warranty? I have a bunch of stuff to mount and now I'm a bit timid to do so. I got 4 rod holders, 2 taco paddle clips and my Striker 4 base to mount somewhere.
I got to get some pics up on what I'm working on...but first I need to figure out how to put a 24"x24" solar panel in a boat...lol. Have an idea but it means that I will only be able to use it when I'm the loan fisherman. When the son comes with me I'll have to leave it out.
I got to figure out a trailer ground issue...one side works fine and the other is ifee at best. Tested my trailer hook up and thank goodness that is working...Gob bless the etrailer wiring harness.
Tommy X reply :
On 3/22/2017 at 8:09 PM, Lonnie D A Uptegrow said:Speaking of holes...when I reached out to Pelican about running wires through the hull of these boats and asked about the warranty in relation to putting holes in the boat to mount accessories they advised that putting any hole in the boat would void the warranty. Has anyone thought twice about mounting stuff to their boat due to the warranty? I have a bunch of stuff to mount and now I'm a bit timid to do so. I got 4 rod holders, 2 taco paddle clips and my Striker 4 base to mount somewhere.
I got to get some pics up on what I'm working on...but first I need to figure out how to put a 24"x24" solar panel in a boat...lol. Have an idea but it means that I will only be able to use it when I'm the loan fisherman. When the son comes with me I'll have to leave it out.
I got to figure out a trailer ground issue...one side works fine and the other is ifee at best. Tested my trailer hook up and thank goodness that is working...Gob bless the etrailer wiring harness.
When I first bought mine, I was the same way. I didn't want to drill holes into the boat at. Last season I got over it and started drilling away on it. So far I mostly used rivits made by YAKGear to attach accessories to the boat. I even put in flush mount rod holders I had to drill a ***/4 holes for those. NO adverse affects to speak of so far. If I find my posts from last year I'll let you know what page they are on so you can check it out. This year I'm adding an LED light bar up front with remote control.
I'll post pics when I get around to doing the project. I already have most of the parts
JaxBasser reply :
Been checking Craigslist for ages trying to find one of these. Seems like 90% of the people never have the titles and if they do they want near new prices for them. Tempted to just go to academy tomorrow and bite the bullet on a new one.
Advantage reply :
On 3/31/2017 at 7:58 AM, JaxBasser said:Been checking Craigslist for ages trying to find one of these. Seems like 90% of the people never have the titles and if they do they want near new prices for them. Tempted to just go to academy tomorrow and bite the bullet on a new one.
Do it, you get warranty with brand new ones. And the peace of mind that there probably won't be anything wrong with it at least right off the bat. But even if there is, it'll be coveredby that warranty. I've seen so many used ones going for new or even higher than new prices myself. Got fairly lucky with my BassHound 9.4...used but great shape and had no mods done to it and got it for @ $450 (retail new is like $1100 for them). But had to go through a couple dozen or more high priced before I found this one.
frosty reply :
On 3/31/2017 at 9:25 AM, Advantage said:Do it, you get warranty with brand new ones. And the peace of mind that there probably won't be anything wrong with it at least right off the bat. But even if there is, it'll be coveredby that warranty. I've seen so many used ones going for new or even higher than new prices myself. Got fairly lucky with my BassHound 9.4...used but great shape and had no mods done to it and got it for @ $450 (retail new is like $1100 for them). But had to go through a couple dozen or more high priced before I found this one.
This is solid advice.
N Florida Mike reply :
Got my 9.5 bass hunter for 100.00 from a friend.
JaxBasser reply :
As soon as I say that I find one for $450 with a new battery, a 55lb thrust motor , and a charger. And he has the title.
frosty reply :
On 3/31/2017 at 11:39 PM, JaxBasser said:As soon as I say that I find one for $450 with a new battery, a 55lb thrust motor , and a charger. And he has the title.
I hope you have it in the back of your truck already
JaxBasser reply :
On 4/1/2017 at 1:58 AM, frosty said:I hope you have it in the back of your truck already
It is now!!
NCbassraider reply :
I have this Sun Dolphin Pro 120 on the way. Should be here in a couple weeks and I can't wait to get out in it and review it.
If anyone else has the Pro 120 I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
I was going to keep my Pelican Predator 103 (also pictured) but the wife says it must go. I was going to Craigslist it but if any Bass Resource members in the Charlotte, NC area are in need of a nice boat, please send me a PM and I will discuss a "friends and family" discount.
frosty reply :
On 4/1/2017 at 7:15 AM, JaxBasser said:It is now!!
Congrats. Let us know how you like it.
JaxBasser reply :
Took it out today. Caught a bunch of bass including a nice 4lber.
Ran into a problem with the trolling motor though. It worked fine at first then just stopped. I got it to work again a couple of times by jiggling the wire and moving the motor around but nothing kept it working.
Tommy X reply :
Some pics of the mods I've done so far are on pages 82 and 97 of this thread
Advantage reply :
Well I finally took the time last night to clean off all the silicone caulk and used a 2 part epoxy to reseal the 4 areas that are sources of water intrusion on my BassHound 9.4 (the livewell drain plug area, the boat drain plug area, and the two spots where the manufacturer injects foam in between the top and bottom of the boat). Hopefully the epoxy will bond with the plastic like it's supposed to and won't allow water in like the silicone did. Boat got a little heavy a few times last year. Lol
Planning on hitting some strip pits with it in a couple weeks.
Reaper73 reply :
Ok I been using my boat dang near non-stop... Only issue I have is the aluminum seat brackets. I am just over 300lbs and they are starting to sag some. Anyone have any ideas? I may try to make some brackets out of lead pipe. I do not want to mount anything to a deck floor. I haul my boat in the back of my truck and I am alone most of the time so do not want to make it even more heavy.
On 4/2/2017 at 10:12 AM, JaxBasser said:Took it out today. Caught a bunch of bass including a nice 4lber.
Ran into a problem with the trolling motor though. It worked fine at first then just stopped. I got it to work again a couple of times by jiggling the wire and moving the motor around but nothing kept it working.
Best thing to do would be to get a 50amp resettable breaker. might as well since it looks like you need to redo the wiring anyway. about $10 at Walmart and easy to install.
Chanceg reply :
On 4/1/2017 at 8:36 AM, NCbassraider said:I have this Sun Dolphin Pro 120 on the way. Should be here in a couple weeks and I can't wait to get out in it and review it.
If anyone else has the Pro 120 I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
I was going to keep my Pelican Predator 103 (also pictured) but the wife says it must go. I was going to Craigslist it but if any Bass Resource members in the Charlotte, NC area are in need of a nice boat, please send me a PM and I will discuss a "friends and family" discount.
What is the difference between the 2 boats besides the decking on the Sun Dolphin?
frosty reply :
Finally got a trolling motor on the way for my pelican. I picked up a 40 pound thrust minnkota from Amazons scratch and dent for $140 with free shipping. Only a few more things to get before I can get her out on the water... the wait is driving me crazy!
NCbassraider reply :
On 4/11/2017 at 6:49 AM, Chanceg said:What is the difference between the 2 boats besides the decking on the Sun Dolphin?
The Sun Dolphin is a foot longer and has much more room as the Pelican was not designed to fish standing up. You can but it is cramped and you have to watch sudden moves or it can capsize.
The Sun Dolphin is made to fish standing and is very stable as it is reinforced inside the hull with pressure treated 2 X 6 and is foam filled. It can fish 3 people pretty easily and you can move around with ease and safety.
It is also equipped with an automatic aerator, running lights and lots of storage as well as a cooler.
Both fine boats but the Pelican is a pond hopper and not all that comfortable to fish for extended sessions. The Pro 120 is a true bass boat that can handle larger bodies of water but is also easy to maneuver in smaller ponds.
RLP reply :
Ok, after a long winter of many mods and research we finally got our Bass Raiders on the water. Went to a very large lake in North Jersey and the boats operated perfectly. The 55lb trolling motors moved us around without a problem and after 6 hours all over the lake the battery appeared to remain just under full charge. Only adjustment is to the rear rudder as it kept raising a bit from its 90 degree angle but that should be easy fix. Only caught two fish between the four of us but the season is still early. Heading back out tomorrow and really loving these boats.
mprestonSEK reply :
I know it has been mentioned on here before but I am having issues locating what I am looking for. What are my options for trailers? I am planning on buying a new 10e in the near future and would like to have a trailer for it.
frosty reply :
On 4/14/2017 at 3:41 AM, mprestonSEK said:I know it has been mentioned on here before but I am having issues locating what I am looking for. What are my options for trailers? I am planning on buying a new 10e in the near future and would like to have a trailer for it.
I'm personally not using a trailer, but most people seem to be using the harbor freight 4'x8' trailer. I saw a guy on YouTube that used a jet ski trailer with a couple minor modifications.
RLP reply :
I have purchased two trailers for the two boats we use. The first is a old ski jet trailer as mentioned above that was modified with a plywood deck to transport a quad. You can see it in my pic 3 post above.. Wanted something small that I could store on its side easily if needed. The second trailed is a used utility trailer with a tilt tongue. It is 4 X 8 like the Harbor Freight units and has front and side rails to keep the boat centered. Just have to strap it front to back so the boat doesn't slide out.
Check Craigslist or local forums and you will find used utility trailers for sale. You should budget anywhere from $200 to just under $400. Went the used route as we didn't want to put together a HB unit and then add another $70 bucks for a sheet of marine grade decking.
Went out for second voyage today and got three fish, 2 small bass and a nice Crappie. Both boats are now officially broken in and have landed fish. Now we just have to find the right lakes with the hot spots!
Good luck.
JaxBasser reply :
Been out in mine a few times now. Got the 55lb thrust motor working. Already catching a lot of bass out of it.
Also bought a 30lb trolling motor. Gonna use the 30 on front and the 55 in the back. The extra battery will also help offset the problem of having so much weight up front.
Okiefisher29 reply :
Think I'm gonna have to move my trolling motor to the back. Loading this boat on the trailer is a downright pain in the arse when solo. Better yet, maybe a small outboard.
frosty reply :
Well I finally picked up a trolling motor from Amazon. It's a 40lb thrust minnkota that was a scratch and dent deal and there's only scratches and dents on the box, trolling motor looks perfect. So where do you guys mount your motor? Front or back? I'm not mounting an outboard. I was thinking about putting it in the front so I could take advantage of the built in plug, just curious if it matters one way or the other.
Chowderhead reply :
On 4/19/2017 at 6:42 AM, frosty said:Well I finally picked up a trolling motor from Amazon. It's a 40lb thrust minnkota that was a scratch and dent deal and there's only scratches and dents on the box, trolling motor looks perfect. So where do you guys mount your motor? Front or back? I'm not mounting an outboard. I was thinking about putting it in the front so I could take advantage of the built in plug, just curious if it matters one way or the other.
I am running the trolling motor in the back. Reading through this thread, there are a number of people who have placed it on the front of the boat. It seems that the key is having a rudder on the back of the boat to keep the backend from spinning around.
frosty reply :
On 4/19/2017 at 7:10 AM, Chowderhead said:
I am running the trolling motor in the back. Reading through this thread, there are a number of people who have placed it on the front of the boat. It seems that the key is having a rudder on the back of the boat to keep the backend from spinning around.
Seems like the back would spin with it on the front considering the front and back are nearly identical. Well maybe I'll give making a rudder a shot... how hard can it be?
Chowderhead reply :
On 4/19/2017 at 7:27 AM, frosty said:Seems like the back would spin with it on the front considering the front and back are nearly identical. Well maybe I'll give making a rudder a shot... how hard can it be?
Yes, that is my understanding. The back will spin without a rudder when the TM is placed on the front. If you have time, go back through the thread -- there are some good examples of home made rudders on here. Good luck and make sure you share pics when you have it completed.
N Florida Mike reply :
If you put weight towards the back it helps. I dont use a rudder due to all the weeds I have to get through.I put a heavy concete chunk I have in back if no one's fishing with me, and I put myself and the battery as far back as I can and still reach the Tm comfortabley.It cuts down the problem a lot .
Hack1982 reply :
SC1 spray
If you want to make your boat look like new and repel water, lake smudge or dirt people have been using this product. I seen where a person sprayed their pelican boat and it looked like new. I ordered a couple of cans off eBay to try on mine. Google SC1 and reviews are outstanding. Just thought I would share.
NCbassraider reply :
Finally after a 5 week wait because the Pro 120 was back ordered, it arrived from the manufacturer. Got a chance to fish it yesterday and was very pleased. I knew from reviews it was very stable but was surprised how easily two adults could fish the decks and move around with out the fear of capsizing. I am 185 lbs and my buddy is 170 and after 30 minutes or so we moved around freely without any concerns. The current model of the Pro 120 has aluminum stringers and the hull is foam filled which adds incredible stability without adding much weight.
There is also a lot of room in this boat even though it is under 12'. Plenty of storage and the you can feel the quality everywhere. The hull is much thicker than the Pelican I previously fished and the decks are very solid with quality marine carpeting over 3/4" treated plywood.
I switched out the seats to allow for more room on the casting decks but will probably remove them most days as I don't sit much but you can sit on the edge of the decks to tie on baits and so forth. The built in cooler saves a ton of room on the boat and if you use a Yeti ice brick, you don't need to bother with the drain at the end of the day.
Haven't turned on the live well yet but it is big and seems to be a very simple design. I like that it is automatic and works off an electrical panel. The running lights worked nicely coming in at night.
The seat pedestals were a concern when ordering but they are rock solid with steel plates mounted on either side or 3/4" plywood. They are not going anywhere.
My only complaint is that it is only pre-wired for a trolling motor on the bow as the stern mount was meant for an outboard but with so many people powering it with a trolling motor, you would think they would add this feature. A simple modification solves this issue but I thought I would mention it.
From the factory this boat is 238 lbs but loaded with motor, battery, anchor and gear, it is quite heavy so I would recommend a dolly like the one pictured or a trailer if you are transporting to a body of water.
Two is the perfect number for this boat but you can easily fish 3 people if needed.
FishingInSC reply :
Finally got through all 105 pages!! There are a lot of nice boats here!!!
I will be buying a bass raider. I am trying to find a sale. I can't wait to
start my mods and fishing out of this wonderful boat.
As someone that currently fishes out of a cheap SOT kayak, I can't wait
to stand and have the ability to move around. Also, I have put many
holes in my kayak doing various mods. It doesn't leak and some holes
are at the water line. I am not scared to put holes in my boat. I stay
out on the lake for 5-6 hours at a time and my hull stays dry. Of course,
I believe most manufactures of almost anything make warranty replacement/repairs
such a headache, I probably would try to fix the problem myself anyway;
therefore, I am not worried about voiding the warranty. Other than taking
it out immediately to make sure there is not a huge problem for which I could
just take it back to the store where I bought it, I will not lose any sleep over the
manufactures "warranty."
Happy fishing everyone...and thanks for sharing your mods!!
Chet Punisher reply :
I have my TM mounted to the front with a cheaply made rudder on the back. Works amazing. I had it out without the rudder and it was ridiculous. I built a table to help when my six year old is on board. I'd like to get an outboard, finding one is almost impossible.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 4/30/2017 at 12:16 AM, Chet Punisher said:... I built a table to help when my six year old is on board...
I can only imagine he needs that table to either chop onions or deal blackjack...
Nice boat by BTW, using the trolling motor mount for your rudder is the way to go.
Chet Punisher reply :
Or cutting up PB&J...
frosty reply :
On 4/30/2017 at 1:17 AM, Chet Punisher said:Or cutting up PB&J...
Or clean fish...
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
So I have had some time to work on the boat...still.....STILL....have not had a chance to get her wet. Hasn't even seen the rain. I feel so ashamed...lol!
Please check out what I have been cooking up so far. The pics are not in any particular order but you can put 2 and 2 together.
You will see the solar panel in one of the pics...I have to figure something out with that, but I think I'm going to make a removable deck when I fish by my self and just take out one of the chairs. Thought about using a spare chair bracket and mounting it to that as well....we will see.
http://s709.photobucket.com/user/lonnieuptegrow/slideshow/
Okiefisher29 reply :
Those of you that trailer your little boats, what sort of tie down system are you using? I currently use one long strap thrown across the back of the boat and hooked to the trailer frame. Would like to mount a retractable ratchet system(like the boat buckle, but cheaper) to the back on either side but I have nothing to hook to on my boat(basshound 10.2). There are some cleats but I'm not too confident in how secure those are. Any suggestions?
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
On 5/9/2017 at 2:06 AM, Okiefisher29 said:Those of you that trailer your little boats, what sort of tie down system are you using? I currently use one long strap thrown across the back of the boat and hooked to the trailer frame. Would like to mount a retractable ratchet system(like the boat buckle, but cheaper) to the back on either side but I have nothing to hook to on my boat(basshound 10.2). There are some cleats but I'm not too confident in how secure those are. Any suggestions?
You could still use the trailer with retractable ratchet style straps....Sam's club sells them for 23 bucks and they come in a two pack and are 10 feet long. If you want to go directly to the boat then without hooks I agree with you I would be worried using screwed in cleats. I use the method you are using now, I just cut off the excess straps so I didn't have to manage extra strapping.
frosty reply :
On 5/9/2017 at 1:20 AM, Lonnie D A Uptegrow said:So I have had some time to work on the boat...still.....STILL....have not had a chance to get her wet. Hasn't even seen the rain. I feel so ashamed...lol!
Please check out what I have been cooking up so far. The pics are not in any particular order but you can put 2 and 2 together.
You will see the solar panel in one of the pics...I have to figure something out with that, but I think I'm going to make a removable deck when I fish by my self and just take out one of the chairs. Thought about using a spare chair bracket and mounting it to that as well....we will see.
http://s709.photobucket.com/user/lonnieuptegrow/slideshow/
Nice mods! I like the anti fatigue mats for the floor! I think I'm stealing that idea. Mind if I ask where you got the mats? I still haven't got mine in the water yet, still got a couple little things to get and she'll have her maiden voyage
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
On 5/9/2017 at 7:27 AM, frosty said:Nice mods! I like the anti fatigue mats for the floor! I think I'm stealing that idea. Mind if I ask where you got the mats? I still haven't got mine in the water yet, still got a couple little things to get and she'll have her maiden voyage
Thanks...I got the mats off of Amazon. Search for ProSource Puzzle Exercise Mat...right now they go for 20.84. I only needed one pack and out of that pack I used 4 and a half...which now that I think about it is simple math being that the boat is 10ft...LOL! If you want black or blue it will cost a few bucks more. Something that I didn't show in the pics is the bottom of the mats...at each seam I tripled taped them so that I could move it around as one piece and so none of the pieces would just go off on me. I used the all weather gorilla tape.
I didn't see a rule about links to products so hopefully this doesn't get me into trouble, so here you go instead of searching for it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K2TWXD6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Fish'nGeorgia reply :
Hello, have kept an eye on this forum for awhile now and want to thank everyone for their ideas. I have a Bass Raider 10E that I haul around on a Harbor freight 8x10 kit trailer, Minn Kota 40lb trolling motor. No real mods yet except for adding a floor, makes a huge difference! I have several projects planned for it and will post some pics as soon as they become reality. Might try the foam mat idea as well, just have to wonder how hot it might get on bare feet vs carpet.
I have a question about fish finders, in particular the Garmin Striker 4 and the 4cv which I guess used to be the 4dv. Does anyone here have experience with either or both and how do you like it? If you have the 4cv, is the extra cost worth it and finally, would you go with the portable kit or the basic package?
Thanks, David
bh91 reply :
If you don't want to go through the hassle of getting a mount for the fish finder itself or taking away a mount that could be used for a rod holder or other accessories the portable kit seems pretty decent since you can pick up the bag and go
Fish'nGeorgia reply :
Thanks, one nice thing about the portable is it includes the battery and charger. Watched a video review of the portable and said he went on a three day fishing trip and the battery still had about a 25 percent charge left on it. Most of our trips are for the day or the occasional weekend so that's plenty of charge. Neither the 4 or the 4vc have maps, but I do have a handheld GPS that has built in marine maps, just toss it in the bag if I really want to mess with it.
Shickalee reply :
For an outboard motor on a 10e, will either a short shaft or long shaft work fine or is one of the shaft lengths recommended over the other?
Reaper73 reply :
On 5/9/2017 at 1:20 AM, Lonnie D A Uptegrow said:So I have had some time to work on the boat...still.....STILL....have not had a chance to get her wet. Hasn't even seen the rain. I feel so ashamed...lol!
Please check out what I have been cooking up so far. The pics are not in any particular order but you can put 2 and 2 together.
You will see the solar panel in one of the pics...I have to figure something out with that, but I think I'm going to make a removable deck when I fish by my self and just take out one of the chairs. Thought about using a spare chair bracket and mounting it to that as well....we will see.
http://s709.photobucket.com/user/lonnieuptegrow/slideshow/
Looking at you aux power box, I was actually planning on doing the same thing. Anyway you could send me some detailed pictures of how you set it up? I was looking at an ammo box from Harbor Freight and there is a nice 6 gang LED waterproof panel with volt meter, twin usb port on Wish app for $30.
frosty reply :
Mine is going in the water for the first time tomorrow! I'm definitely pumped about it, but I noticed something tonight getting it ready to go, that battery does an awful lot of sliding around. I threw a cheap ratchet strap around it and fastened it to the trolling motor, but I'm planning on having the motor in the front. What are you guys doing to keep your battery in place?
MrTightLInes reply :
On 5/13/2017 at 10:39 AM, frosty said:Mine is going in the water for the first time tomorrow! I'm definitely pumped about it, but I noticed something tonight getting it ready to go, that battery does an awful lot of sliding around. I threw a cheap ratchet strap around it and fastened it to the trolling motor, but I'm planning on having the motor in the front. What are you guys doing to keep your battery in place?
Mines so heavy, it doesn't move .... *shrug*
It's at the back, on the carpeted plywood floor. Literally nearly impossible to slide.
RLP reply :
On 5/14/2017 at 9:46 AM, MrTightLInes said:
Mines so heavy, it doesn't move .... *shrug*
It's at the back, on the carpeted plywood floor. Literally nearly impossible to slide.
I have my battery on a piece of carpeted board with a small block of wood to tilt the battery box slightly backwards. I have wooden floor also carpeted in the bottom of the boat (3 sections) so the battery pretty much stays put.
frosty reply :
Mines just the bare floor, I guess I'm going to have to try some carpeting. Thanks guys.
RLP reply :
On 5/10/2017 at 7:26 AM, bh91 said:If you don't want to go through the hassle of getting a mount for the fish finder itself or taking away a mount that could be used for a rod holder or other accessories the portable kit seems pretty decent since you can pick up the bag and go
I carpeted a small piece of wood and mounted the ffinder to the board. It attaches to velcro strips that are adhered to the raider and the carpet backing grips pretty well. When its time to remove it I just lift the unit and pack it away.
RLP reply :
On 5/14/2017 at 10:49 AM, RLP said:I carpeted a small piece of wood and mounted the ffinder to the board. It attaches to velcro strips that are adhered to the raider and the carpet backing grips pretty well. When its time to remove it I just lift the unit and pack it away.
Fish'nGeorgia reply :
That works RLP. Thought about using a plastic ammo can setup that everything could be packed inside. The kit just includes everything, battery, charger and mounts included vs the cost of buying everything separately. Then again nothing beats the feeling of making it yourself!
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
On 5/12/2017 at 10:34 AM, Reaper73 said:Looking at you aux power box, I was actually planning on doing the same thing. Anyway you could send me some detailed pictures of how you set it up? I was looking at an ammo box from Harbor Freight and there is a nice 6 gang LED waterproof panel with volt meter, twin usb port on Wish app for $30.
Sorry it took so long to reply...haven't had a chance to check this site out until now. I'll look to see if I have any pics while building it. It is really simple....I was going to use relays at first to switch on multiple things but the box would have been crowded so I just wired my outlets to a switch. You may be able to see in the picture I have to sets of double outlets which are wired to one switch a pair. So when I throw the switch to the right of the green switch it powers both outlets of the top pair...one outlet has two USB ports and the other is a 12v plug. When I hit the switch under that the same happens just to the bottom pair of outlets. Now to power everything I used two 7ah sealed batteries from Amazon wired in parallel. This gives me the same 12v but with increased capacity for a total of 14ah. The idea behind this box was that it is a emergency power source for my trolling motor as well in the event I have an issue with my big battery. Inside the box excluding the wiring you will see a bus bar where all of my grounds connect and a fuse panel for the different circuits. I'll take some pics and I'll post them to my Photobucket. I originally was going to mount my fish finder to the box to create my own portable unit but I had didn't have a solution for the transducer so I went with using scotty product. Now I can move this anywhere on the boat without having to move my power center much. The transducer cable is a simple as a little tape. I cannot promise I'll have pics up today but hopefully I can get you some this week.
On 5/13/2017 at 10:39 AM, frosty said:Mine is going in the water for the first time tomorrow! I'm definitely pumped about it, but I noticed something tonight getting it ready to go, that battery does an awful lot of sliding around. I threw a cheap ratchet strap around it and fastened it to the trolling motor, but I'm planning on having the motor in the front. What are you guys doing to keep your battery in place?
Yeah I agree with the other poster...my battery is so heavy it doesn't budge even when I'm moving it around on the trailer to install stuff. Even more so now that I have the foam padding down. Once I get it on the water I can tell you more but right now with all the moving I have done it doesn't move.
NOLER SWAMP reply :
For those of you that have your BR10E hooked up to where you have a casting deck on the front....I'm going with a Minn Kota tiller steer 45 or 50. I plan to stand and fish a good bit with a temporary drop-in casting deck. Academy has the 45 with a 45" shaft. The 50 only has a 36" shaft (unless I'm missing somn?) My question is....when I'm standing is the 36" shaft enough length for me to not have to stoop over to control the troller or should I go with the 45" shaft to be safe?
First post. Have read all 105 pages. Great stuff. #rookiequestion
frosty reply :
I'd go with the longer shaft, you can always put it deeper but it will be tough to make it shallower if it's to short.
Is this still considered family friendly 
NOLER SWAMP reply :
On 5/16/2017 at 5:40 AM, frosty said:I'd go with the longer shaft, you can always put it deeper but it will be tough to make it shallower if it's to short.
Is this still considered family friendly
Bahahahha ? Thanks man.
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
This post is dual purpose, first it is to test my resizing of the pics to ensure I can add them and first to show how my Bass Raider adventure started. It all began with the purchase of this trailer about a week before Black Friday of last year. These trailers are a pain in the butt to assemble, but once you get it done it works out just fine. I'm going to do a post with a ton of pics of everything I have done so far. Hopefully someone can get something from it...I researched this site for ideas and watched a ton of kayak videos on how I wanted to setup my Bass Raider 10e. Until I have time to resize all the pics...here is a link to my google album...it should be in order from the first pic back in 2016 up to the last pics I took yesterday. Enjoy! https://goo.gl/photos/ykH8q7QCHjWiwJvc9
Added google album link.
Fish'nGeorgia reply :
On 5/16/2017 at 9:39 AM, Lonnie D A Uptegrow said:This post is dual purpose, first it is to test my resizing of the pics to ensure I can add them and first to show how my Bass Raider adventure started. It all began with the purchase of this trailer about a week before Black Friday of last year. These trailers are a pain in the butt to assemble, but once you get it done it works out just fine. I'm going to do a post with a ton of pics of everything I have done so far. Hopefully someone can get something from it...I researched this site for ideas and watched a ton of kayak videos on how I wanted to setup my Bass Raider 10e.
Agree those trailers are a bit of a pain, but worth it. Ours has been a good one and have used it for more than hauling the Bass Raider around, fridge, riding mower, scrap metal and more. The only thing I'd like to change is the placement of the lights. When you place your tag on the light the tilt is useless because it hits the ground. Has anyone found a way around that? Thought about using some PVC pipe and raising them, but raising the tag also puts it in the way when loading and unloading. Wish GA. used small trailer tags like motorcycles use.
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
On 5/16/2017 at 7:42 PM, Fish'nGeorgia said:Agree those trailers are a bit of a pain, but worth it. Ours has been a good one and have used it for more than hauling the Bass Raider around, fridge, riding mower, scrap metal and more. The only thing I'd like to change is the placement of the lights. When you place your tag on the light the tilt is useless because it hits the ground. Has anyone found a way around that? Thought about using some PVC pipe and raising them, but raising the tag also puts it in the way when loading and unloading. Wish GA. used small trailer tags like motorcycles use.
I dislike the platelight placement as well. The very first issue I had after putting it together was the brake light and signal light not working on the drivers side. Everything you read on the internet points to grounding however in my case I had already ensured I had good grounds when installing the light kit. So I either had a bad light or issue with the tail light wiring harness I bought. I got one of those testers for tail lights and tested the wiring harness connected to my lights. So that left the trailer...well to shorten the story turns out that one of the pins in the harness on the trailer was pressed too tight so I had to expand it a bit for it to make good contact when in the tail light plug. Getting back to the plate and light placement...you could technically make a custom bracket that came off of the trailer at 90 degrees...if you make it as wide as the wheel fenders then you would still be working with the same amount of space on either side of the trailer, and you can make it just high enough to allow tilting. It could potentially still get in the way depending on how you load and unload whatever you are trailering. Just brain storming, maybe someone has already solved this?
Fish'nGeorgia reply :
On 5/16/2017 at 8:05 PM, Lonnie D A Uptegrow said:I dislike the platelight placement as well. The very first issue I had after putting it together was the brake light and signal light not working on the drivers side. Everything you read on the internet points to grounding however in my case I had already ensured I had good grounds when installing the light kit. So I either had a bad light or issue with the tail light wiring harness I bought. I got one of those testers for tail lights and tested the wiring harness connected to my lights. So that left the trailer...well to shorten the story turns out that one of the pins in the harness on the trailer was pressed too tight so I had to expand it a bit for it to make good contact when in the tail light plug. Getting back to the plate and light placement...you could technically make a custom bracket that came off of the trailer at 90 degrees...if you make it as wide as the wheel fenders then you would still be working with the same amount of space on either side of the trailer, and you can make it just high enough to allow tilting. It could potentially still get in the way depending on how you load and unload whatever you are trailering. Just brain storming, maybe someone has already solved this?
A custom bracket could work. Thinking more about your idea, PVC can be heated up with a heat gun, flatten the end drill holes and mount them where the light mounts are now. Using elbows to extend them beyond the trailer, a T out for the raised lights and plate bracket. Of course a separate ground would have to be ran. The uprights would also serve as trailer guides for backing up empty. Not so concerned about the uprights being in the way as that darn metal plate, like you said raised, but still inside the fender. I usually carry two kayaks too so I need to build carriers for those and again thinking PVC pipe flattened a bit, going from one side to the other, over the boat and using the post mounts on the sides of the trailer with pins to take them off when the kayaks are unloaded.
BTW. Last year there was a recall on those trailer lights. They sent a card and I mailed it in, they sent a new light kit. I still haven't swapped them out because I don't haul at night. Everything around here is close enough that I can usually get home before dark. I have the same problem you described with your lights, but you fixed yours? I thought it might have been the wiring or part of the reason for the recall. You might see if your lights were included and can still get another set. Doesn't hurt to have a second in case you bust one. I haven't even opened the box yet. In Georgia you don't have to have lights on a trailer during daylight hours. Still need to fix them just in case we do get stuck having to trailer at night.
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
Well got it out on the water yesterday...and I found some issues I need to address. First my homemade boat dolly is too low to the ground and the L brackets I used are not good for the weight. Keep in mind that I'm moving all of my gear while in the boat from the parking lot to the water just because of the walk...plus I have a group 29 battery that I do not want to carry that far...lol. Second I forgot to put a bow line on it...with all the other stuff I installed I didn't have a way to tie the boat up...lol...completely slipped my mind. Other than that everything else worked great. The extension for the trolling motor has to be put on while on the water because we do not have a proper launch point but all and all I'm happy. Also for those wondering about the stability of these boats let me tell you I'm 6'-1" and 360 and I didn't need a 7 inch riser which seems to be popular and I found that I could move all over this thing without a problem...you still need to be mindful of your center of gravity but man was it nice...was down on my knees and back up with out issue. Very happy so far with this boat!!
frosty reply :
I was standing in mine for a bit, I'm not a fan I suppose it would help to not have my wife and 3 year old in the boat to, but I didn't enjoy standing. Sitting was great, after looking at it, the seat brackets go out to the pontoon, putting all the weight on the most stable area of the boat.
RLP reply :
On 5/16/2017 at 7:42 PM, Fish'nGeorgia said:Agree those trailers are a bit of a pain, but worth it. Ours has been a good one and have used it for more than hauling the Bass Raider around, fridge, riding mower, scrap metal and more. The only thing I'd like to change is the placement of the lights. When you place your tag on the light the tilt is useless because it hits the ground. Has anyone found a way around that? Thought about using some PVC pipe and raising them, but raising the tag also puts it in the way when loading and unloading. Wish GA. used small trailer tags like motorcycles use.
I use key rings along with zip ties to attach the plate to both sides of the bracket. This way the plate is not fixed and actually swings so when tilting the trailer the plate is flexible and will not bend. Yes it swings when traveling down the road but I have not had any issues with cops or troopers.
Just my 2 cents..
Fish'nGeorgia reply :
On 5/18/2017 at 11:23 AM, RLP said:I use key rings along with zip ties to attach the plate to both sides of the bracket. This way the plate is not fixed and actually swings so when tilting the trailer the plate is flexible and will not bend. Yes it swings when traveling down the road but I have not had any issues with cops or troopers.
Just my 2 cents..
Very clever! Perhaps I'll try that until I figure out exactly what to do. Thanks for the tip.
frosty reply :
On 5/18/2017 at 11:23 AM, RLP said:I use key rings along with zip ties to attach the plate to both sides of the bracket. This way the plate is not fixed and actually swings so when tilting the trailer the plate is flexible and will not bend. Yes it swings when traveling down the road but I have not had any issues with cops or troopers.
Just my 2 cents..
My only concern with that is the longevity of the zip ties. I know they get brittle after being in the weather for awhile. I would use these for a more permanent solution.
RLP reply :
On 5/19/2017 at 6:32 AM, frosty said:My only concern with that is the longevity of the zip ties. I know they get brittle after being in the weather for awhile. I would use these for a more permanent solution.
Excellent idea! That was why I mentioned key rings and zip ties both holding the plate but this solution is a no brainer. I worried about the longevity of the plastic ties as well. Off I go to find a pair of these small enough to go through the license plate holes. Thanks!
frosty reply :
On 5/19/2017 at 7:18 AM, RLP said:Excellent idea! That was why I mentioned key rings and zip ties both holding the plate but this solution is a no brainer. I worried about the longevity of the plastic ties as well. Off I go to find a pair of these small enough to go through the license plate holes. Thanks!
I know Walmart carries small ones, but you might have to use two to get enough clearance for them to swing.
Fish'nGeorgia reply :
Either should work, key rings or the metal links. I have a ton of key rings so will probably go that route for now. Thanks for the trailer tilt tag solutions. Now It gets me thinking about using small hinges bolted onto the stock plastic mount and using a small magnet to possibly fix the plate swinging. Yes it is possible to over think these things! 
frosty reply :
On 5/19/2017 at 11:54 PM, Fish'nGeorgia said:Either should work, key rings or the metal links. I have a ton of key rings so will probably go that route for now. Thanks for the trailer tilt tag solutions. Now It gets me thinking about using small hinges bolted onto the stock plastic mount and using a small magnet to possibly fix the plate swinging. Yes it is possible to over think these things!
Maybe put it on a spring and use stop hinges. Heck, might as well build in some LED lights and maybe a backup camera while you're down there
Fish'nGeorgia reply :
On 5/20/2017 at 1:30 AM, frosty said:Maybe put it on a spring and use stop hinges. Heck, might as well build in some LED lights and maybe a backup camera while you're down there
Now your talking!
frosty reply :
On 5/20/2017 at 1:49 AM, Fish'nGeorgia said:Now your talking!
You'll have more invested in the license plate than the whole trailer cost soon!
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
UPDATE!!! SORRY EVERYONE but Photobucket wants me to spend 399 dollars to host my pictures...I just refuse to do that! You can still check the pics out with this link:
http://s709.photobucket.com/user/lonnieuptegrow/slideshow/
I don't have time to order these but I'll try to at least keep them in the order in which I did them.
Building the Trailer to get the Boat on Prior to Black Friday so that I would have one before they sold out. Went back to Dicks Sporting goods to get the price adjustment on Black Friday. When it was all said and done I got the boat for $456.00.
So the Future?
Well you cannot see it in any of the pictures but I built a custom boat dolly to get the boat from parking lots to the water edge, well day one and I ran into some issues. The wheels wanted to lock up on me because I had them to tight, the L bracket I was using was on wrong and I didn't put pool noodle on the wood to cushion the boat while on the dolly. I also need to get bigger wheels...with this simple design the dolly was to low. I finished up redoing the axle brackets tonight and switched from screws to bolts. I also got some 13" wheels which look like they might work well. Tomorrow I'm going to do a full test with the boat loaded. I am trying to make very...very...I repeat...very few trips back and forth from the car to the boat so I'm trying to make this thing to take the load of the boat, gear, and battery.
I also need to make the supports for the solar panel to sit in the front of the boat right where the legs for the chairs sit. Additionally, I still need to make by cables that will connect to the MC4 connectors on the solar panel and run to the battery with the solar charge controller in the back. I will tell what this has been fun, and a project I have been working on since Sept of last year from planning what I want to do to the research on this site and YouTube. I have tried to incorporate some of the ideas that worked for me, and in some cases made small changes. All in all it has been fun. I have already had her on the water for a short period of time so I no one of my next challenges will be launching at the neighborhood pond with a loaded boat. The banks of the pond are not boat friendly...I may take a pic to show you what I'm working with. Almost forgot once I'm done with the boat dolly I'll throw a pic up incase someone needs an idea. I searched high and low and finally found one that I didn't think would cost me a small fortune however I now have two sets of tires, and a various amount of spare hardware...lol!
Edited by Lonnie D A Uptegrow
photobucket wanted me to pay for hosting
Fish'nGeorgia reply :
Impressive Lonnie! Thanks for the timeline of your build, you must have some electronics knowledge. Nice how you built or modified most all of it yourself. Let me know how you like that Striker and how it performs when you get the chance to really use it.
I'm sure your fishing rig will get some looks at the boat ramp. Its funny to see these guys in their big, metal flake fiberglass bass boats with a 200+ hp motor, launch and then having to use their trolling motor to get around on an electric only lake. Have had a few talk about getting rid of theirs and downsizing. The only real advantage they have is room and some of the lakes they can go on, mostly because of all the wakes they make, but as far as rigging it out, this forum has proven just about anything is possible.
bh91 reply :
Any suggestions for getting the Garmin striker 4transducer lower into the water and more stable for function . On a Scotty transducer mount too
Paintball reply :
On 5/22/2017 at 2:26 PM, bh91 said:Any suggestions for getting the Garmin striker 4transducer lower into the water and more stable for function . On a Scotty transducer mount too
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The Ram mount is compatible with Scotty. Good luck.
Gond reply :
Nice write up Lonnie! i am currently trying to determine two things about these boats. Is it worth it for my area. and if so Bass Raider 10e or Sun Dolphin Sportsman. I only have a handful of electric only lakes/ponds within an "after work" driving distance. There are 3 1500-1800 acre reservoirs within that driving distance though. Do you all think that one of these is too small to explore some of these reservoirs? Or should I just keep saving for a 16-20ft jon boat? If the plastic boat becomes the option then I fish alone or with my dog (22lbs) 99% of the time. Is it worth the extra $200 to get the 10e over the Sportsman? Also are they similar in stability or is one more stable?
tobyzmb reply :
hey guys just joined up been reading for a while . a lot of great ideas on here i will get some pics up my pelican Rhino its like the raider but has live well and battery box from the factory i have put a few mods on it as well bought this boat new in 2000 and has to be the beast money i have ever spent love this thing . i use a single jet ski trailer to haul mine with no mods to the trailer works great easy to load and unload . i have a lowrance hook3x FF 44lb thrust TM 2 homade rod holders from pvc pipe and 2 other rod holders that i bought had an old trolling motor took it apart and made my rudder with that bracket big foot switch for the TM going to be installing led lights for some night bass fishing ok i guess i found a few pics to put up here
weekender365 reply :
Hey guys,
I have a Bass Raider 10 and it's been pretty good to me, but I'm having trouble with the front transom. For some reason the outboard side of the front transom is angled outwards instead of being vertical, so the trolling motor won't clamp properly and tends to push itself right off the transom when in use. Is there something I can do to it to fix this? I'm kind of shocked that the boat would come like this, it's sort of a big problem.
Paintball reply :
Try mounting a piece of aluminum flat bar to the transom just above the clamps.
Topkick reply :
Picked up my Pelican the first of June and finished it this morning. Can't wait to get it on the lake. I had an original Bass Buster in the 80's and stayed the bass with it. I live on Lake Kiowa (560 acres) which was too small for my pontoon but just right for the Pelican. It's got a 54 lb thrust Motorguide Bulldog to push it and the ice chest is a functioning live well. Also set it up for night fishing. The Crappie and Sand Bass fishing is fantastic here.
Andy Taylor reply :
Nice setup. I never heard of a sand bass.
Topkick reply :
I've heard them referred to up north as white bass. Down here they're Sand Bass followed closely by hybrid striper and then stripers. You can get into a good school of sandies and catch 100-200 fairly easily.
camvaughn reply :
Amazing thread!!!
Looking into a PBR10E, and was thinking that Gander Mountain might have them on sale, bankruptcy and all. Does anyone know whether they sell them in the Atlanta area? Their website no longer shows inventory and the personnel at the stores are to busy to answer their phones.
Thanks in advance and thanks mostly for the amazing ideas.
I currently fish the bigger lakes, that allow motors, on my jet ski, but need something for our area lakes and my tender is too unstable.
Frats,
Cam
FishingInSC reply :
I finally pulled the trigger. Just got back from Dick's Sporting Goods. $599 and she's mine!!
I'll post some pics as I modify it!! Tight lines everybody!!!
Skew12 reply :
I've been kicking tires at a few 9.9 Jon boats and I'm starting to think I may end up with one of these instead.
Anyone using a small outboard?
Chowderhead reply :
On 7/6/2017 at 7:27 PM, Skew12 said:I've been kicking tires at a few 9.9 Jon boats and I'm starting to think I may end up with one of these instead.
Anyone using a small outboard?
I think there have been a few posts in this thread about using an outboard. For me, the trolling motor and battery meets my needs for the small ponds and lakes I fish.
N Florida Mike reply :
I have a 3 hrs. Kicker for my 12 ft Jon and it pushes it pretty good .
Skew12 reply :
On 7/6/2017 at 8:32 PM, Chowderhead said:
I think there have been a few posts in this thread about using an outboard. For me, the trolling motor and battery meets my needs for the small ponds and lakes I fish.
Yea im seeing a few and coming to that same conclusion.
On 7/7/2017 at 1:31 AM, N Florida Mike said:I have a 3 hrs. Kicker for my 12 ft Jon and it pushes it pretty good .
Nice. I wouldn't mind it but I'm not sure I'd get the value out of it. Not many 5hp or less used are showing up locally.
FishingInSC reply :
And so it begins.
I have 55 lb thrust MK in back & 30 up front for trolling. I want to add a big foot switch to the front TM. Have a cheap Lowrance Hook3x. I want to add rod holders and carpeted floor.
Until next time....keep fishing!!!!
Out fishing...
Used to attach stuff...
My rod holder...
FishingInSC reply :
I ran out of space before i could post a pic of my first fish from the Raider! I'll post it later!!!
tobyzmb reply :
nice rig you got there
sorry my picture is really blurry tried to shrink to fit i have done a few upgrades myself carpet floor rod holders on the sides
FishingInSC reply :
Even blurry...still a nice set up!
N Florida Mike reply :
Ive also got a 40 lb thrust minn kota I switch between my jon and bass hunter.
It does great on small water bodies. It even lifts the front out of the water so if Im alone I put a heavy block in front to weigh it down and it goes a little faster.
GeorgeL reply :
Hey guys...I bought a used 8' Pelican and temporarily stored it upside down while waiting for title and registration. We had quit a rain storm and when I pulled the boat out to turn over and add the registration numbers, there was water inside. There is a drain plug on the end, but no matter how I tip/maneuver the boat, cant get the water out. Doesn't sound like much, but worries me.
Anyone have this experience?
Thanks
Eternal Angler reply :
Anywhere I can purchase 2 seat brackets for decent price. I bought used a Pelican Bass Raider 10E for cheap price, guy who sold it to me didn't have the seats for whatever reason. Pelicanpaddleboat.com wants $130 for two seat brackets, not even including swivel or the seats, lol. What a rip off, price gouging.
Academy has'em for $40, but not sold online...
I guess I could think about fabricating some up.... Swivels are cheap, like $6 each at Meijer, found seats for like $30...
Still gotta purchase a trolling motor, plan on going with Minn Kota 40 lb.
I missed my old Bass Raider, gonna use this for ponds and small inland lakes, while still use my Crestliner Super Hawk for St. Clair...
Any tips, let me know, far as I know Dunhams, Gander, Field Stream, do no carry these seat brackets at their stores. Pelican site says call their phone number, it was entirely in french or something. I guess I could just talk to someone that works at one of these stores, see if they can order them up through Pelican.
Eternal Angler reply :
I see Bass Hunter company has seat base for $35 each and $65 for the seat, swivel, and base kit. What a rip off Pelicanpaddleboat.com is charging. Hopefully the Bass Hunter and Pelican uses the same measurements for the base bracket. Anyone know?
Going to call Pelican again, see what they charge directly...
Eternal Angler reply :
Hahahah, lol, just talked to Pelican, they want $120 for a single seat bracket directly from their company, nothing else included. I guess I'll be buying a seat bracket from Bass Hunter if it fits or from Pelicanpaddleboat.com. That's brutal, lol...
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
On 6/10/2017 at 2:39 AM, Gond said:Nice write up Lonnie! i am currently trying to determine two things about these boats. Is it worth it for my area. and if so Bass Raider 10e or Sun Dolphin Sportsman. I only have a handful of electric only lakes/ponds within an "after work" driving distance. There are 3 1500-1800 acre reservoirs within that driving distance though. Do you all think that one of these is too small to explore some of these reservoirs? Or should I just keep saving for a 16-20ft jon boat? If the plastic boat becomes the option then I fish alone or with my dog (22lbs) 99% of the time. Is it worth the extra $200 to get the 10e over the Sportsman? Also are they similar in stability or is one more stable?
Hi Gond,
From what I understand two deep cycle batteries will last a life time if you are the only one fishing. For big water I would probably go with a bigger boat. As far as stability...I'm a tall and big guy and as long as you are sure footed this boat is absolutely stable. Before this I had a SCANOE and as soon as I went to try it for the first time it was a big SCA NO. There is a guy on YouTube...his channel is youtubefishvids and he seems to go everywhere in his body of water, but he also has two batteries.
Pond fisher reply :
On 7/18/2017 at 9:24 PM, Smallmouth41 said:Hahahah, lol, just talked to Pelican, they want $120 for a single seat bracket directly from their company, nothing else included. I guess I'll be buying a seat bracket from Bass Hunter if it fits or from Pelicanpaddleboat.com. That's brutal, lol...
Try academy.com
Ken
Jakyol1 reply :
Hi all
I just got my bass raider a few weeks ago and was wondering how exactly everyone was mounting things to their boat? I plan on mounting a fishfinder and a few rod holders this weekend and want it done correctly. May also put on a few cleats.
Thanks in advance
Chowderhead reply :
On 7/21/2017 at 6:35 AM, Jakyol1 said:Hi all
I just got my bass raider a few weeks ago and was wondering how exactly everyone was mounting things to their boat? I plan on mounting a fishfinder and a few rod holders this weekend and want it done correctly. May also put on a few cleats.
Thanks in advance
Welcome to the club - it sure is fun having these little pond boats. If you haven't already done so, take a little time and read through this entire thread. Many great ideas in here.
Eternal Angler reply :
On 7/21/2017 at 6:35 AM, Jakyol1 said:Hi all
I just got my bass raider a few weeks ago and was wondering how exactly everyone was mounting things to their boat? I plan on mounting a fishfinder and a few rod holders this weekend and want it done correctly. May also put on a few cleats.
Thanks in advance
Yeah definitely try searching this thread, some of the photos have been dehosted since this thread was started so that kind of sucks, but honestly I wouldn't try using any screws and drilling holes into the boat. I've been using clamps of all sort to attach my GoPro to my Crestliner boat, I assume they could be used for fish finders as well. You could just drill out a whole on the clamp, then screw the fish finder to the clamp, then attach the clamp to a part of the boat securely. I know some would worry about knocking it lose, but some of these clamps are pretty darn strong and secure these days. Just a thought....
Advantage reply :
Here's a link to a partner/supplier to just about all of the 2 man boat and kayak manufacturers. This link is to the patch/repair kit part of the website but the website also sells parts and accessories as well as owner's manuals, etc.
The patch repair kit is designed for these types of boats (HDPE...high density polyethylene). Just an FYI for anyone needing the info.
http://www.pedalboat.com/oz/0/cps/patch/patch.html
tobyzmb reply :
for mounting things to these boats you can use well nuts they work great and seal up good .
BLfishin reply :
Quick question. I bought a used bass raider yesterday and there was nothing wrong with the structure of the boat. It looked clean, apart from the pelican stickers coming off and being faded. When i got home i reminded myself to check the staples on the outside of the boat and they were rusted. Is this going to be a large issue for me?
tobyzmb reply :
i have had my pelican since 2000 it has been in all weather conditions and staples have a bit of rust on them but not bad . you can always change them but should be ok
i took an old battery box and mounted to the underneath of my seat it will hold 4 of the these crank bait boxes very handy for storage since thats probably the biggest issue with these small boats is storage
BLfishin reply :
On 8/4/2017 at 1:23 AM, tobyzmb said:i have had my pelican since 2000 it has been in all weather conditions and staples have a bit of rust on them but not bad . you can always change them but should be ok
im just not sure if they have stored it outside and for how long is the question. when i asked they said it was stored correctly so i had to take them on their word, but the staples do have a decent bit of rust on them so.
tobyzmb reply :
i guess if they look real bad replace them . i am not sure where you can get those staples from though do you have any pics of the staples to post ?
BLfishin reply :
On 8/4/2017 at 1:35 AM, tobyzmb said:i guess if they look real bad replace them . i am not sure where you can get those staples from though do you have any pics of the staples to post ?
ill take some pictures of them tonight and post them. Just need to figure this out so i dont get on the water and they break.
popug reply :
On 7/17/2017 at 9:02 PM, Eternal Angler said:Anywhere I can purchase 2 seat brackets for decent price. I bought used a Pelican Bass Raider 10E for cheap price, guy who sold it to me didn't have the seats for whatever reason. Pelicanpaddleboat.com wants $130 for two seat brackets, not even including swivel or the seats, lol. What a rip off, price gouging
Good luck! I was in same 'boat' - friend gave me old Bantam 3X for free but had nothing with it. I bought my frames from basspro for $40 / ea then the wise folding seats from Amazon for $30 or so each and added detachable swivels for $20 each. The seats are going to cost me more than anything the way it's going. Bass pro doesn't seem to offer the frames anymore - maybe because they were cheaply made with the worst welding job I've ever seen. I think it's worth trying the bass hunter site - had I seen that when I was looking I would have gone with them, much cheaper.
I'm upfitting my Bantam 3X now - been going through this thread for a long time. Just got rid of an old Coleman Bass Raider style boat. As someone said, a lot of pictures have lost their hosting - anyone care to post/repost their boats and mods to consolidate?
Pond fisher reply :
On 7/18/2017 at 9:24 PM, Smallmouth41 said:Hahahah, lol, just talked to Pelican, they want $120 for a single seat bracket directly from their company, nothing else included. I guess I'll be buying a seat bracket from Bass Hunter if it fits or from Pelicanpaddleboat.com. That's brutal, lol...
Try academy.com
Ken
Cobra Grey reply :
Good Day Everyone, New to the Thread. Bought my Bass Raider a few weeks ago, been out three times and love it. Installed a Fish Finder, Rod Holders, Cleats, etc using rubber tight rivets, the type for Kayaks, it seems to be working well. I decided to start that way and if need be I can replace them will well nuts later if need be. I heard a few people talking about putting a carpet/plywood floor in, I was going to do this, but then my wife took me to Lowes, suggested I use the foam padding that is used for workout equipment. I bought a set, trimmed it, had it installed in all of 10 minutes. I love it, just pick it out and wash up is a breeze and it cost me $20. It is comfortable and sturdy standing on it, and has some good traction. Used the clippings to cover my Dolly setup.
I also wanted to know if anyone has installed a drain plug behind the Battery, in that flat area. seems like the place for it. mine collects a little water there over the day of fishing. not an issue, but don't really want to empty boat of my gear and turn it over before hauling it home. any suggestions?
Chet Punisher reply :
I have not heard of anyone putting a drain hole in.
Thrilcker reply :
My boat seat bracket purchase resolution:
Last week, I bought my Pelican 10E from Craigslist and drove the wonderful 2 hours home. Felt that I got a great deal on it, the modified jetski trailer, 45# TM, and marine battery. I was stoked to get to registering and hit the water. I got home and both seat brackets/swivels/seats were gone. I didn't think to secure or remove, I'm not sure if they flew out or were grabbed on one of my stops. I figured it would be a quick and easy replacement, but as we all know it is not. After several exhausting hours I did locate a couple at an Academy in FL ($39.99 each). I tried to get them to ship direct and they could/would not so I had to go to my local store and initiate a store to store transfer to my closest Academy. According to Academy this can take up to a month, wth? But its the only resolution I could find away from pedalboats.com who wanted $65 a piece for them + $45.00 shipping. They would not ship against my account number or work with me in any way. Hope this helps someone!
On 8/9/2017 at 6:40 AM, Cobra Grey said:Good Day Everyone, New to the Thread. Bought my Bass Raider a few weeks ago, been out three times and love it. Installed a Fish Finder, Rod Holders, Cleats, etc using rubber tight rivets, the type for Kayaks, it seems to be working well. I decided to start that way and if need be I can replace them will well nuts later if need be. I heard a few people talking about putting a carpet/plywood floor in, I was going to do this, but then my wife took me to Lowes, suggested I use the foam padding that is used for workout equipment. I bought a set, trimmed it, had it installed in all of 10 minutes. I love it, just pick it out and wash up is a breeze and it cost me $20. It is comfortable and sturdy standing on it, and has some good traction. Used the clippings to cover my Dolly setup.
I also wanted to know if anyone has installed a drain plug behind the Battery, in that flat area. seems like the place for it. mine collects a little water there over the day of fishing. not an issue, but don't really want to empty boat of my gear and turn it over before hauling it home. any suggestions?
The one I just picked up had a bilge pump in the back wired to the battery and a switch. Its rained several times since I have gotten it and I just flip the switch and the water is forced out a hose off the side. Seems to work perfectly and I wouldn't have thought of it. Let me know if you want pics, I can get some when I get home.
Thrilcker reply :
For those interested, I was able to determine that the Bass Hunter seat brackets will not work for the Pelican Bass Raiders. Their dimensions are too narrow at 25.5" x 25 5/8 vs. the 27" x 24" that we need.
On 7/17/2017 at 9:02 PM, Eternal Angler said:Anywhere I can purchase 2 seat brackets for decent price. I bought used a Pelican Bass Raider 10E for cheap price, guy who sold it to me didn't have the seats for whatever reason. Pelicanpaddleboat.com wants $130 for two seat brackets, not even including swivel or the seats, lol. What a rip off, price gouging.
Academy has'em for $40, but not sold online...
I'm actually driving 2 hours to Greenville SC to pick up 2 at Academy this evening. As of this morning, they have 2 more. If you want to PayPal me the money, I'll pick up the other two and ship them to you. I know I'm just a random guy on the internet, but I believe in the honor system and would be glad to help out a fellow fisherman in need. I'm also not going to cancel the store to store transfer that I initiated, so at some point 2 more should be coming to me. I'd be happy to do the same with those 2 if you don't get this in time for todays transaction.
Leftymuk reply :
Pond Prowler 10 foot......minnkota 55 on the stern and a power pole on the bow...has an anchor trolley with a stake out pole....seat is from Nucanoe
Chet Punisher reply :
Well guys, I sold the Bass Hunter. Purchased two fishing kayaks and am having a blast. Thanks for such an awesome thread. Get out there and fish!
heysarge reply :
On 8/8/2017 at 8:34 AM, Pond fisher said:Try academy.com
Ken
On 8/9/2017 at 7:09 AM, Chet Punisher said:I have not heard of anyone putting a drain hole in.
I put a drain hole in my 10' Pelican Bass Raider. I put it right thru the bottom in the flat spot just behind the front trolling motor mount/support/transome (but on the front?)! It is perfect! I purchased a "Thru Hull" from a local boat place for about $5 and some clear silicone from Walmart. I then drilled a hole, connected the two parts, sealed it with silicone! Wa-La Done! Now for the crazy part, the second day after I put the plug in, my wife and I went fishing. Prior to leaving the dock, she reached down and grabbed some leaves that fell into the boat. When she threw them in the water, there was a sound like a rock hitting the water. Two seconds later she said, "I think I just threw the drain plug into the water!" It turns out that she did! Because we were sitting it a fully loaded boat and no water came in, we pressed on! I never replaced the plug! Another crazy thing thing...Most of the time I leave my boat in the water. I use a small/light weight 12V Hover Round battery for my trolling motor and it weighs just enough to tilt the boat towards the hole! Every time it rains the water drains out of the boat and we have never had an issue. Bottom Line...One hole in the bottom of the boat and we are none the worse for wear. (PS...feedback for Pelican...great boat but not every part of the boat has the ability to drain. Please fix your molds so that everything drains to the bottom of the boat...Thanks)
Removed duplicate pics and clarified "thru hull"
Chet Punisher reply :
You created a scupper hole. They have them on kayaks.
Bassman33 reply :
On 7/17/2017 at 9:02 PM, Eternal Angler said:Anywhere I can purchase 2 seat brackets for decent price. I bought used a Pelican Bass Raider 10E for cheap price, guy who sold it to me didn't have the seats for whatever reason. Pelicanpaddleboat.com wants $130 for two seat brackets, not even including swivel or the seats, lol. What a rip off, price gouging.
Academy has'em for $40, but not sold online...
I guess I could think about fabricating some up.... Swivels are cheap, like $6 each at Meijer, found seats for like $30...
Still gotta purchase a trolling motor, plan on going with Minn Kota 40 lb.
I missed my old Bass Raider, gonna use this for ponds and small inland lakes, while still use my Crestliner Super Hawk for St. Clair...
Any tips, let me know, far as I know Dunhams, Gander, Field Stream, do no carry these seat brackets at their stores. Pelican site says call their phone number, it was entirely in french or something. I guess I could just talk to someone that works at one of these stores, see if they can order them up through Pelican.
HI TRY THIS MADE FROM PLYWOOD, DOWELS AND POST WORKS GREAT HELD UP ALL SUMMER SO FAR
Bassman33 reply :
On 6/15/2017 at 8:42 AM, weekender365 said:Hey guys,
I have a Bass Raider 10 and it's been pretty good to me, but I'm having trouble with the front transom. For some reason the outboard side of the front transom is angled outwards instead of being vertical, so the trolling motor won't clamp properly and tends to push itself right off the transom when in use. Is there something I can do to it to fix this? I'm kind of shocked that the boat would come like this, it's sort of a big problem.
HI HAD SAME PROBLEM ON FRONT ENDED UP SCRIBING AROUND PADS WHEN
MOTOR WAS IN PLACE TOOK OFF MOTOR AND IN CENTER PUT SHEET METAL
SCREW AND 1/2 WASHER.WHEN CLAMPING MOTOR BACK IN PLACE THE SHAFT OF CLAMP HITS TOP OF SCREW FIRST GRIND SOME OF CLAMP END INSIDE OF CUP. DID IT ON BOTH FRONT AND REAR OF MY 10E AND AFTER HITTING SOMETHING MOTOR SURELY WOULD HAVE POPPED OFF IF NOT DONE.
Okiefisher29 reply :
I'm guessing you are hand launching those?
On 4/13/2017 at 10:06 AM, RLP said:Ok, after a long winter of many mods and research we finally got our Bass Raiders on the water. Went to a very large lake in North Jersey and the boats operated perfectly. The 55lb trolling motors moved us around without a problem and after 6 hours all over the lake the battery appeared to remain just under full charge. Only adjustment is to the rear rudder as it kept raising a bit from its 90 degree angle but that should be easy fix. Only caught two fish between the four of us but the season is still early. Heading back out tomorrow and really loving these boats.
OhheyCindy reply :
hey all i am looking at either a 10e or a bass hunter. my question is if the bass hunter is worth the extra hundred dollars.
Luisjjj reply :
Just bought a pelican 10e of Craigslist, its my first ever boat. I didn't know I had to register it to have a trolling motor on it and the guy who sold it to me didn't give me any bill of sale or nothing. Any tips on how to register it? Or am I screwed? I live in Arkansas btw
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 10/19/2017 at 11:05 AM, Luisjjj said:Just bought a pelican 10e of Craigslist, its my first ever boat. I didn't know I had to register it to have a trolling motor on it and the guy who sold it to me didn't give me any bill of sale or nothing. Any tips on how to register it? Or am I screwed? I live in Arkansas btw
Can't speak to Arkansas, but here in Oklahoma I was able to register mine after I filled out a simple form and showed my bill of sale. I would find the hull number and call your local tag agency. They will be able to get you set up.
RLP reply :
Hey Luisjjj,
Hope you got things settled. Yes these boats in most states will need to be registered if powered by anything other than human. You will need to google a bill of sale doc for your state and complete it with your boat info serial # and model. Always good to have it notarized. Once done off to Motor Vehicles fill out new registration form. Once done you will have to purchase the lettering to properly tag your boat. You will only get the Motor Vehicle sticker from the agency. Wallymart or online stores have alphabet/numbering kits.
Let us know how you make out.
Dirt reply :
Just got mine a few weeks ago. Has anyone applied anything to the bottom to prevent it from getting destroyed on boat ramps etc? I try to avoid dragging it but it’s much harder to get into the truck bed from the water, and if I could nudge it up on the ramp a little it’s easy.
Edit: was thinking of maybe a little spray on bed liner type of stuff just in one area where the dragging would be. Maybe even the paint on rubber stuff
RickB reply :
On 4/22/2017 at 10:41 AM, NCbassraider said:Finally after a 5 week wait because the Pro 120 was back ordered, it arrived from the manufacturer. Got a chance to fish it yesterday and was very pleased. I knew from reviews it was very stable but was surprised how easily two adults could fish the decks and move around with out the fear of capsizing. I am 185 lbs and my buddy is 170 and after 30 minutes or so we moved around freely without any concerns. The current model of the Pro 120 has aluminum stringers and the hull is foam filled which adds incredible stability without adding much weight.
There is also a lot of room in this boat even though it is under 12'. Plenty of storage and the you can feel the quality everywhere. The hull is much thicker than the Pelican I previously fished and the decks are very solid with quality marine carpeting over 3/4" treated plywood.
I switched out the seats to allow for more room on the casting decks but will probably remove them most days as I don't sit much but you can sit on the edge of the decks to tie on baits and so forth. The built in cooler saves a ton of room on the boat and if you use a Yeti ice brick, you don't need to bother with the drain at the end of the day.
Haven't turned on the live well yet but it is big and seems to be a very simple design. I like that it is automatic and works off an electrical panel. The running lights worked nicely coming in at night.
The seat pedestals were a concern when ordering but they are rock solid with steel plates mounted on either side or 3/4" plywood. They are not going anywhere.
My only complaint is that it is only pre-wired for a trolling motor on the bow as the stern mount was meant for an outboard but with so many people powering it with a trolling motor, you would think they would add this feature. A simple modification solves this issue but I thought I would mention it.
From the factory this boat is 238 lbs but loaded with motor, battery, anchor and gear, it is quite heavy so I would recommend a dolly like the one pictured or a trailer if you are transporting to a body of water.
Two is the perfect number for this boat but you can easily fish 3 people if needed.
Any more updates on this NCbassraider. I had a basshunter years ago and it got settled, she didn't want it but didn't want me to have it either. Anyway looking for something small again and really like the looks of these but haven't ever seen one in person. GF doesn't think the pontoon type look stable enough for her.
Thanks
Dirt reply :
https://m.imgur.com/19gDEQI
I used the 3M command hook style things for my rod holder. Holding great, no holes. I wired in the same plugs front and back as I’m trying to decide where I like the motor more. And also figured out the best way to load/unload from the truck. I use rope or bungee cords on the front handles, while standing in the truck bed, and I can easily lower into the water, or pull up from the water and it doesn’t get dragged at all. Like someone else said I was surprised how easily the bottom got gouged, it makes me wonder if the newer models are softer on the bottom than the older generation. Loving the boat!
NCbassraider reply :
On 12/1/2017 at 1:06 AM, RickB said:Any more updates on this NCbassraider. I had a basshunter years ago and it got settled, she didn't want it but didn't want me to have it either. Anyway looking for something small again and really like the looks of these but haven't ever seen one in person. GF doesn't think the pontoon type look stable enough for her.
Thanks
The update is I love this thing! It is a true mini Bass boat. My friends that have tournament boats are amazed at the stability of the casting decks and how freely you can move on it without worrying about tipping. This boat is durable and well made and the live well is top notch.
It is heavier than other plastic hulled pond boats but nothing two guys can't handle. I ordered a custom aluminum dolly from a website that can be seen in my pictures and it makes it easy to move and launch. There is a trailer available from the manufacturer also.
Highly recommended and worth the wait if back ordered. If you do purchase go through Cabellas as they seem to always have the best pricing and the updates on my boat's progress during build out was great.
olecoastie reply :
new to the forum...just picked up a Bass Raider 10E from Academy sports. Gonna spend the next couple months getting it set up right...I plan on using a Minn Kota 55lb thrust TM, a good marine deep cycle battery, upgrade the seats and put a 7" riser on the back seat, some rod holders and rod keepers, emergency paddles, Fish finder(still researching those as I have never used one), an anchor set up and quite a bit of other items as well. I have watched every youtube video on these bass raiders and every mod upgrade video...and now read through nearly every page of this topic so with ALL those ideas, I got heck of a worklist...lol
RLP reply :
On 12/20/2017 at 6:07 AM, olecoastie said:new to the forum...just picked up a Bass Raider 10E from Academy sports. Gonna spend the next couple months getting it set up right...I plan on using a Minn Kota 55lb thrust TM, a good marine deep cycle battery, upgrade the seats and put a 7" riser on the back seat, some rod holders and rod keepers, emergency paddles, Fish finder(still researching those as I have never used one), an anchor set up and quite a bit of other items as well. I have watched every youtube video on these bass raiders and every mod upgrade video...and now read through nearly every page of this topic so with ALL those ideas, I got heck of a worklist...lol
Welcome olecoastie!
I was in your place a year ago when I purchased my BR10E. Worked through Jan, Feb and March doing all the mods you mention and more and had her out over a dozen of times this year. Spent alot of time on the trailer I haul her on as well. It is a great vessel to fish in and will get you in areas that are inaccesible to many! Do not be afraid to mod as this thing is hard to sink so drill your holes and keep it moving. Let us know how you make out over the next months.
Dirt reply :
On 12/20/2017 at 6:07 AM, olecoastie said:new to the forum...just picked up a Bass Raider 10E from Academy sports. Gonna spend the next couple months getting it set up right...I plan on using a Minn Kota 55lb thrust TM, a good marine deep cycle battery, upgrade the seats and put a 7" riser on the back seat, some rod holders and rod keepers, emergency paddles, Fish finder(still researching those as I have never used one), an anchor set up and quite a bit of other items as well. I have watched every youtube video on these bass raiders and every mod upgrade video...and now read through nearly every page of this topic so with ALL those ideas, I got heck of a worklist...lol
I had a huge list when I bought mine as well, but after fishing in it multiple times I was actually able to cut a lot of stuff off that list as I felt like I didn’t really need them. I love it! Look forward to using it each time I get the chance
john143fish reply :
On 12/1/2017 at 1:06 AM, RickB said:Any more updates on this NCbassraider. I had a basshunter years ago and it got settled, she didn't want it but didn't want me to have it either. Anyway looking for something small again and really like the looks of these but haven't ever seen one in person. GF doesn't think the pontoon type look stable enough for her.
Thanks
nice set-up. where did u get them chairs?
LonnieP reply :
Not a Bass Raider but here is my Pond Prowler
Fishingiswhatido82 reply :
I’m hooking up my lowrance hook 5 to my pelican bassraider 10e , any suggestions on where I should mount transducer I bought a kayak transducer mount n it’s like a arm that hangs in the water should I put it torge the back of boat
TNReb reply :
On 1/28/2018 at 12:39 PM, Fishingiswhatido82 said:I’m hooking up my lowrance hook 5 to my pelican bassraider 10e , any suggestions on where I should mount transducer I bought a kayak transducer mount n it’s like a arm that hangs in the water should I put it torge the back of boat
Best spot is probably on the trolling motor. Another option is on some sort of PVC that you can raise and lower.
Okiefisher29 reply :
On 6/10/2017 at 3:18 AM, tobyzmb said:hey guys just joined up been reading for a while . a lot of great ideas on here i will get some pics up my pelican Rhino its like the raider but has live well and battery box from the factory i have put a few mods on it as well bought this boat new in 2000 and has to be the beast money i have ever spent love this thing . i use a single jet ski trailer to haul mine with no mods to the trailer works great easy to load and unload . i have a lowrance hook3x FF 44lb thrust TM 2 homade rod holders from pvc pipe and 2 other rod holders that i bought had an old trolling motor took it apart and made my rudder with that bracket big foot switch for the TM going to be installing led lights for some night bass fishing ok i guess i found a few pics to put up here
can u attach a pic of your bunks/rollers on your jet ski trailer? Thinking of making an adjustment to mine. Roller on my doesn't even touch the keel so it doesn't really float when unloading. Thanks.
KLoell reply :
I remember seeing someone mounting their transducer to an old trolling motor they dissmanteled and mounted it where the motor and prop used to be. I tried searching through the pages to find a pic but no luck. I was curious to see if any of you have mounted their depth finder the same way and could you possibly post a few pics? Thanks in advance!
Toallhisdoom reply :
I bought a bass raider with no paper work. Anyone know how I can get it registered in ny?
Want to put a motor on it and go to kinderhook and saratoga with it.
Dirtyeggroll reply :
On 2/10/2018 at 4:11 AM, Toallhisdoom said:I bought a bass raider with no paper work. Anyone know how I can get it registered in ny?
Want to put a motor on it and go to kinderhook and saratoga with it.
If it has registration numbers (stickers) on it, in some states you can simply use that number to request a copy of the registration associated with that number.
Bubbadogg1 reply :
I just picked up my first Bass Raider 10e from Field & Stream. Regular price $699 but they offered me the floor model at a discounted price AND a 10% vets discount for a final price of $324.99! I have never registered a new boat before. Evidently I need the "manufacturers statement of origin (MSO)". They didn't give me anything but the boat, seats and sales receipt. Is there some sort of owners manual that should be included?
RLP reply :
Yes there is a owners manual with a page Manufacturers Declaration of Origin. It has fields to enter your boats info and is what you need to register. You might be able to print the manual from he link below or simply contact customer service to have them send you one. Good luck and enjoy the boat.
http://www.pelicansport.com/sites/default/files/docs/ip1297-4_owner_manual_fishingboat.pdf
Chowderhead reply :
On 2/17/2018 at 9:37 PM, Bubbadogg1 said:I just picked up my first Bass Raider 10e from Field & Stream. Regular price $699 but they offered me the floor model at a discounted price AND a 10% vets discount for a final price of $324.99!
What a great price — enjoy!
Davidgm_2000 reply :
Hello All, I've been considering getting a Bass Raider 10E, while browsing around last night i noticed a listing for a Sun Dolphin Sportsman 10 listed at Home depot for the same price. Just wondering if anybody would have the pros and cons between the two?
Davidgm_2000 reply :
Great, now I spotted a used Pond Prowler within about 1 1/2 hour drive away. More to consider.
GLK reply :
On 2/19/2018 at 3:38 AM, Davidgm_2000 said:Great, now I spotted a used Pond Prowler within about 1 1/2 hour drive away. More to consider.
That Sun Dolphin 10 looks identical to the new Pond Prowler 10 if you have a Bass Pro close enough to see in person
OCdockskipper reply :
On 1/23/2018 at 9:11 AM, LonnieP said:
That looks really nice, I like how you chose to span over the side gunnels for the additional width. That is much more practical than just making it the width of the chair supports.
Did you need to add any support horizontally for weight & if so, where did you put the cross members? If I do a deck, I want to create storage space underneath it, but didn't know if the support needed would limit it and/or create the need for deck lids.
LonnieP reply :
On 2/19/2018 at 4:55 AM, OCdockskipper said:
That looks really nice, I like how you chose to span over the side gunnels for the additional width. That is much more practical than just making it the width of the chair supports.
Did you need to add any support horizontally for weight & if so, where did you put the cross members? If I do a deck, I want to create storage space underneath it, but didn't know if the support needed would limit it and/or create the need for deck lids.
It’s just 3/4 inch plywood. It’s really sturdy for now as I just recently built it but I’ve been thinking I should probably put some type of support underneath it. I can jump up and down on it like it is and it doesn’t move but I’m afraid it might weaken in time.
Canam13 reply :
Hello all,
I want to put 1 or 2 drains (front&back) in the inside of my BR10e, to make it easier to remove water from inside the boat. I've read that the floor is higher than water line, so sealing should be easy. Would anyone know how thick the floor is, so I can buy the proper thru-hull or bulkhead fitting?
I am also considering using a 1" ID size fitting for the drain and using the drain as a through point for a shallow water anchor spike. Anyone ever try or accomplish that on their BR?
Bassin' Brad reply :
I just picked up my Pelican Bass Raider 10E last from academy. Looking forward to rigging it up and posting some pics!
Dirt reply :
On 1/23/2018 at 9:11 AM, LonnieP said:Not a Bass Raider but here is my Pond Prowler
How do you have your transducer mounted? I love that set up, might have to try and build something similar
LonnieP reply :
On 3/20/2018 at 4:30 AM, Dirt said:How do you have your transducer mounted? I love that set up, might have to try and build something similar
I glued it to the Hull with 3m 5200
OhheyCindy reply :
how hard is it to control these things? say if you are throwing a crankbait is the boat turning and pulling while you reel? i have a little 10 foot kayak and i get so frustrated, i cant even throw a spinnerbait without re positioning every cast.
OCdockskipper reply :
Since they weigh less than a full fledged bass boat, it takes less to make these boat turn, however they aren't as bad as a kayak or canoe. One thing that makes a big difference when throwing moving baits as well as controlling the boat is adding a rudder to the back (when you have the electric in the front).
On my boat, only the deepest diving crankbaits tend to turn my bow a little, everything else has a negligible effect.
Noelprinceofdarkness reply :
Hello,
Enjoyed everyone's contribution to the Forum. Love seeing all the Ideas. I bought a Sun Dolphin Sportsman 8ft recently from Home Depot. They price match anywhere and have free shipping right now. Can't wait for it to come in. Have a small 30lb minn kota to push me around. Ordered a Garmin Striker 4 for it too.
Being New here I've skimmed over most of the Forum and have a question. Has anyone ever tried to use the Scotty transducer mount off the side of the boat? Is it long enough to submerge the transducer?
Also anyone tried making the whole boat a standing platform? No seats just turning it into a motorized stand up paddleboard pretty much? Using the original floor to store things? This is my plan. When its done ill upload some pictures.
Cory Doras reply :
Hey guys, Got a few questions about these lil boats.
1) There seems to be a few brands but all look similar except the cockpit layout. Is one better than the other?
2) How stable are they? I want to do some stand up spin fishing and some fly fishing. Im getting old and wobbly 
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I got a bass boat now but I've always seen these things and thought they would be awesome for small ponds and places where gas motors are not allowed.
Thanks
Biggz53 reply :
What’s the wire gauge size for the pre wired pelicans?
the TM I have comes with a lead of 6 gauge, I think the pelican is 8 but can’t find confirmation anywhere.
I just want to make sure I got the right size but connector to put the TM to the pre wired plug
LonnieP reply :
On 3/27/2018 at 8:01 AM, Cory Doras said:
Biggz53 reply :
Also has anyone found a good way to patch the ram x material? I’ve tried it all with no luck, finally just ordered a plastic welder to try that.
LonnieP reply :
On 3/27/2018 at 8:01 AM, Cory Doras said:Hey guys, Got a few questions about these lil boats.
1) There seems to be a few brands but all look similar except the cockpit layout. Is one better than the other?
2) How stable are they? I want to do some stand up spin fishing and some fly fishing. Im getting old and wobbly
I got a bass boat now but I've always seen these things and thought they would be awesome for small ponds and places where gas motors are not allowed.
Thanks
They are very stable. I can jump up and down on the edge of mine. It would take a huge wave to turn it over
Chowderhead reply :
On 3/27/2018 at 8:01 AM, Cory Doras said:
2) How stable are they? I want to do some stand up spin fishing and some fly fishing. Im getting old and wobbly
I got a bass boat now but I've always seen these things and thought they would be awesome for small ponds and places where gas motors are not allowed.
Thanks
As was mentioned, very stable for the areas these types of boats were designed for. This will be my 3rd season with the Pelican 10E and I love it. Allows me to get into some real remote, shallow areas that I would not otherwise be able to access.
frosty reply :
On 3/27/2018 at 8:42 PM, Biggz53 said:What’s the wire gauge size for the pre wired pelicans?
the TM I have comes with a lead of 6 gauge, I think the pelican is 8 but can’t find confirmation anywhere.
I just want to make sure I got the right size but connector to put the TM to the pre wired plug
That’s not 6 gauge wire, I don’t have mine anymore but I believe it was 12 gauge. Might be 10 but I don’t think so. Even if you buy a plug that’s a different gauge it will still work, just solder and heat shrink your connections.
Biggz53 reply :
On 3/28/2018 at 5:12 PM, frosty said:That’s not 6 gauge wire, I don’t have mine anymore but I believe it was 12 gauge. Might be 10 but I don’t think so. Even if you buy a plug that’s a different gauge it will still work, just solder and heat shrink your connections.
Never soldered before. Would a butt connector crimped with shrink wrap work?
frosty reply :
On 3/29/2018 at 7:06 AM, Biggz53 said:Never soldered before. Would a butt connector crimped with shrink wrap work?
Probably but soldering is super easy. I’m sure you could find something on YouTube. They make butt connectors for exterior applications, probably the best bet if you can find them easily.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 3/26/2018 at 11:35 PM, Noelprinceofdarkness said:...Also anyone tried making the whole boat a standing platform? No seats just turning it into a motorized stand up paddleboard pretty much? Using the original floor to store things? ...
I believe I saw one picture of a Pond Prowler done like that. I would think the only problem with that is it would be a bit awkward to reach over the side to either land a fish or grab something off the surface or just under the water. With a raised platform on the just the front, you can still sit on the edge of the platform (feet on the lower section) and reach easily over the side of the boat. Think of when guys land fish on full size bass boats, they leave the front deck & go back to the sunken cockpit to reach into the water.
On 3/27/2018 at 8:01 AM, Cory Doras said:...How stable are they? I want to do some stand up spin fishing and some fly fishing. Im getting old and wobbly
As long as you aren't getting passed by full sized boats making full sized wakes, they are very stable. Having a plywood subfloor increases the stability (and carpeting it increases the comfort when standing).
I'll stand when fishing jerkbaits or skipping docks, but once I hook up and begin fighting the fish, I'll plop my butt back in the seat. It is convenient to be sitting, fighting a fish and then just reach over & land them without having to move from where you are.
KP Duty reply :
I'm getting ready to buy my second bass raider.....going with the 10ft this time. Trying to decide between a 40 or 50lb endura motor. I realize the 40 is enough, but I go out all day and usually venture far. Scooting back to the ramp fast with a 50lb thrust sounds appealing. However, I am curious if even though I generally stick to speeds 1 or two mostly during the day if the larger motor will drain my battery too soon. Thoughts?
LonnieP reply :
On 3/30/2018 at 11:31 PM, KP Duty said:I'm getting ready to buy my second bass raider.....going with the 10ft this time. Trying to decide between a 40 or 50lb endura motor. I realize the 40 is enough, but I go out all day and usually venture far. Scooting back to the ramp fast with a 50lb thrust sounds appealing. However, I am curious if even though I generally stick to speeds 1 or two mostly during the day if the larger motor will drain my battery too soon. Thoughts?
I used a 40 lb endura the first year I used my pond prowler. It worked fine unless the wind was blowing. I fish in a pretty big lake and when the water got choppy it felt like I was barely moving. A few months ago I bought a 55 lb variable speed endura Maxx. It only moves the boat 1/2 mph faster but it cuts through the water a lot better on those windy days. I don't notice any more battery drain since I switched but the variable speed is supposed to have less battery drain.
RLP reply :
On 3/30/2018 at 11:31 PM, KP Duty said:I'm getting ready to buy my second bass raider.....going with the 10ft this time. Trying to decide between a 40 or 50lb endura motor. I realize the 40 is enough, but I go out all day and usually venture far. Scooting back to the ramp fast with a 50lb thrust sounds appealing. However, I am curious if even though I generally stick to speeds 1 or two mostly during the day if the larger motor will drain my battery too soon. Thoughts?
I have the 55 lb variable speed endura Maxx as well. The variable speed is more efficient as you dial exactly what you need and are not stuck with preset speeds that may be too fast or too slow. I load the boat down with two 200 plus guys plus battery and gear so I went with the strongest 12v trolling motor and my group size 21 battery matches and last a full outing when fully charged. We get just over 4 MPH fully open when water is not choppy but typically are trolling on very low speeds to hold spots or move slowly along the shore.
Just my 2 cents...
Stretch77 reply :
On 3/6/2017 at 8:28 PM, Advantage said:Any waves or rain can get water inside the hull that way. And I was wrong, it's not Sun Dolphin who has the repair kit. It's Pedal Boats website that has it. The way I found out is I bought my BassHound 9.4 used and it has a livewell in it and noticed the drain plug area was allowing water in as well as the 2 areas on the aft that they used to inject the floatation foam inside the hull were taking on water, due mostly to age I assume, I tried to use silicone caulk...it didn't work so started doing some research and found out about HDPE and the HPDE cement/epoxy.
Also installed the base for my gps/depthfinder on the lid for the battery compartment and used screws/silicone.
Could you please provide a link to this HDPE glue/epoxy? Thanks
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Bassin' Brad reply :
So this is my new pelican bass raider 10E. Found a good deal on a little used trailer. We've already replaced the Jack, installed eye bolts for strapping down, and sanded it down to be repainted. I think we've figured out a floor for it as well. Picked up a good used deep cell marine battery from my wife's grandpa. Have a 45# thrust Minn Kota endura max on the way, and already got our big foot controller in. Still need to hook up the Garmin cv4 we just bought and install rod straps and a few other things. Can't wait to get it done and take it Out!
Stretch77 reply :
Have fun fixing it up! Check this out. I love it!
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Bassin' Brad reply :
On 4/10/2018 at 2:48 AM, Stretch77 said:Have fun fixing it up! Check this out. I love it!
I've looked at that foot control peddle...just didn't know if it would be worth it....
fulton246 reply :
Last summer, I acquired a new Bass Raider 10e and paired it with a Minn Kota Enudra MAX 55 LB trolling motor & an Autocraft group 29 marine battery. I put the trolling motor in the rear and used the pre-wired power line to house the battery up front.
I kept the boat stock during the summer & fall seasons. Over the winter, I have been gathering a lot of parts to customize/ make it more suitable for my fishing style. First and foremost, I bought a Garmin Striker 7SV, 20ah battery and built a custom battery box. I decided to mount the transducer on the front of the boat using an old trolling motor bracket that I picked up for $20 at a salvage yard. Now, I am just waiting on my RAM mount to arrive so I can install the head unit. In addition to the FF, I installed a 1/2" plywood floor & covered it in black outdoor carpet. I am also waiting on a few RAM mount rod holders, which I plan to mount in the rear for crappie trolling.
Attached are a few pics of the floor and transducer mount. Will snap more once I have the final setup complete.
Fish 247 reply :
Hey guys, I am new to the forum here, but have used it for ideas and different mods on my Pelican Bass Raider 10E, so thank you for all of that.
I was wondering if anyone has had any issues with the 8AWG wiring that is pre-wired in the boat. I have mine set up so that I can run my 55lb thrust MinnKota Traxxis in the back of the boat, and keep the battery up front. I am a big boy (275lbs on a good day), so as I stand towards the back/center, I can keep the extra weight of the 12V battery up front to keep things balanced.
I recently purchased the TM plug to utilize the wiring inside. my second time out, the 40amp inline fuse melted, but didn't pop the fuse. After reading up on this, it seemed that this might have been because of a poor connection inside the fuse. To replace it I purchased and am waiting on a 40amp inline flat fuse holder which I am going to install upfront, closer to the battery.
My concern however is that the 55lb TM may push too much amperage for the length of the 8AWG wire and the 40amp flat fuse i just purchased.
Has anyone had any issues after switching to a new flat fuse with the fuse constantly popping, or still with the fuse holder melting.
Any info or advise would be appreciated from the #plasticboatnation!!! Thanks, Dennis
popug reply :
Some sick setups on here - gave me a bunch of ideas to rig mine out. I got a coleman bass classic off CL that I'm up fitting. I put down 1/2" PT ply glued and wrapped in Lowes outdoor carpet. Looking at doing a casting deck with pedestal seat; how are you guys anchoring the decking to the boat, or are you? My thought is if you lean back on pedestal seat the ply will just loft up and flip backward. I plan on doubling up 1/2 ply to make 1" thick, mount the pedestal mount to that and then place that on top of where the stock seat rails would lay in. Any thoughts on doing it differently or an effective non destructive way of securing the deck to the boat?
popug reply :
On 5/1/2018 at 2:41 AM, Fish 247 said:-8 AWG
- 55lb thrust MinnKota Traxxis
- 40amp inline fuse
Dennis,
Going off the chart from the TM manual, your circuit breaker was too small. Shouldn't have melted, however - just should have blown. The wire is technically too small for your TM and will heat up at max draw and could cause an issue. Being a bigger guy will make the motor go to max draw pretty quickly. May not hurt to run 6 AWG and a 50 Amp breaker?
Dirt reply :
Those with a floor, no issues with it catching wind on the freeway and blowing out? I’ve been thinking about doing carpeted wood but nervous about going 70mph+ and having wind get under it and flip it out
Craig Bunn reply :
Hello, just Bought a Bass Raider, been watching Mod videos and reading back on this post. Just wondering if anyone has tried Rhino Lining the bottom?
OCdockskipper reply :
On 5/1/2018 at 2:41 AM, Fish 247 said:...Has anyone had any issues after switching to a new flat fuse with the fuse constantly popping, or still with the fuse holder melting...
Sorry for the delayed response, I never saw this when you first posted it.
I have a 10 ft Pond Prowler with an older 48lb Motorguide & I have melted two of the fuseholders in the past 4 years (twice in about 200 full day trips). Neither time did the fuse pop, instead the entire assembly just melted and I had to splice in a new one.
I'm not sure what caused it to happen either time.
On 6/1/2018 at 1:05 AM, Dirt said:Those with a floor, no issues with it catching wind on the freeway and blowing out? I’ve been thinking about doing carpeted wood but nervous about going 70mph+ and having wind get under it and flip it out
I am assuming it will be in the bed of a truck, if so, just crisscross a pair of bungee cords across the top of the boat. I don't believe the wind would get under the floor, but even if it did, the bungee cords would stop it from leaving the boat.
I think the seats would have a better chance of getting wind under them & lifting out.
The 2 times I hauled my boat, I put the cover on & then strapped that down to keep it attached. As long as the cover stays, everything inside the boat stays.
LonnieP reply :
On 6/1/2018 at 1:05 AM, Dirt said:Those with a floor, no issues with it catching wind on the freeway and blowing out? I’ve been thinking about doing carpeted wood but nervous about going 70mph+ and having wind get under it and flip it out
I screwed my deck to the boat. If I was going to put flooring in the bottom, I would put some 3m 5200 under the wood, that would hold it in place.
RLP reply :
On 6/4/2018 at 11:29 PM, LonnieP said:I screwed my deck to the boat. If I was going to put flooring in the bottom, I would put some 3m 5200 under the wood, that would hold it in place.
I have three floor sections all plywood and carpeted and yes when trailering I have had he mid section lift due to wind. My remedy was to place the trolling motor and other weighty items over the sections with bungees to keep them from shifting. This solved he issue. Takes a few times to figure it out but once you have a system you are all set.
kylecurtsinger reply :
New here! Joined because this seems to be the best bass raider resource on the internets. Got mine 3 weeks ago and almost have it ready to go. After getting my ancient TM out of storage its not worth repairing. Going to get a Minn Kota endura 40Lb next week. Then decide on an reasonable battery, looks like rural king exide batteries are the better deals around me.
Chowderhead reply :
On 6/18/2018 at 5:52 AM, kylecurtsinger said:New here! Joined because this seems to be the best bass raider resource on the internets. Got mine 3 weeks ago and almost have it ready to go. After getting my ancient TM out of storage its not worth repairing. Going to get a Minn Kota endura 40Lb next week. Then decide on an reasonable battery, looks like rural king exide batteries are the better deals around me.
Welcome! You’re right, this is THE thread for this unique little boat. Great ideas and discussion, enjoy.
Fish 247 reply :
Hey guys.... Recently made and added this carpeted casting deck/storage bin to the front of my bass raider. it really works well and allows me to carry more tackle in less bags, keep a semi-dry storage area for my camera accessories and is a solid stand for my gopro tripod. Just wanted to share in case anyone else had ideas to do the same.
My next project is mounting my Hummingbird Helix 5 as I got an adjustable transducer mount from fishfindermounts.com
I like to keep my rods laid down on the side rails of the boat so I dont want to head unit to affect that.... any suggestions or ideas for location placement??? It would be appreciated.
Thanks, Dennis
LonnieP reply :
On 6/26/2018 at 8:41 AM, Fish 247 said:Hey guys.... Recently made and added this carpeted casting deck/storage bin to the front of my bass raider. it really works well and allows me to carry more tackle in less bags, keep a semi-dry storage area for my camera accessories and is a solid stand for my gopro tripod. Just wanted to share in case anyone else had ideas to do the same.
My next project is mounting my Hummingbird Helix 5 as I got an adjustable transducer mount from fishfindermounts.com
I like to keep my rods laid down on the side rails of the boat so I dont want to head unit to affect that.... any suggestions or ideas for location placement??? It would be appreciated.
Thanks, Dennis
I put rod straps on the edge on both sides of mine. Right above where the cup holders are.
Fish 247 reply :
On 6/26/2018 at 9:59 PM, LonnieP said:I put rod straps on the edge on both sides of mine. Right above where the cup holders are.
The Rod straps are to keep the rods in place (which is another mod i really should do after losing a $200 combo last season).... but i was asking more about mounting ideas for the head unit. its a Helix 5, so the screen is wider than it is taller, and id like to mount it towards the center of the boat, as most of the fishing i do is while standing in the back half. I thought I had saw a photo or video somewhere of a "clamp" style mount that was made to screw down on the outter rim of the boat.... but i cant seem to find it again.
LonnieP reply :
On 6/27/2018 at 1:09 AM, Fish 247 said:The Rod straps are to keep the rods in place (which is another mod i really should do after losing a $200 combo last season).... but i was asking more about mounting ideas for the head unit. its a Helix 5, so the screen is wider than it is taller, and id like to mount it towards the center of the boat, as most of the fishing i do is while standing in the back half. I thought I had saw a photo or video somewhere of a "clamp" style mount that was made to screw down on the outter rim of the boat.... but i cant seem to find it again.
OK. I misunderstood you. I mounted my 7 inch Garmin on the front right side of my deck. I can lay my rods down on the side and still have at least a foot of clearance between them and the unit.
Dirt reply :
I made a cheap mount for my 7” garmin that sits in one of the stock pole holders up front. Basically a wooden rod with rubber around it, I’ll try and get a pic this weekend
Fish 247 reply :
Yeah I actually purchased a Ram Mount and was able to mount it on one of the side rails in the center of the boat, and still have room to lay my poles down. I was leaning towards making a mount, but that Ram Mount only set me back about $40. Not bad....
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fishwizzard reply :
Hey, do any of you guys have a Twin Troller X10?
I saw one on the water the other day and talked to the owner. It seems like a really slick fishing platform and I am looking for more info on it.
RLP reply :
On 7/1/2018 at 1:01 AM, Fish 247 said:Yeah I actually purchased a Ram Mount and was able to mount it on one of the side rails in the center of the boat, and still have room to lay my poles down. I was leaning towards making a mount, but that Ram Mount only set me back about $40. Not bad....
I use velcro to attach my unit to the boat. Carpeted a piece of wood then mounted the unit to the block. It holds to the velcro with no issues and is easy to stick down and remove. I used small rivets on the strips just to make sure they stay in place. The mount in my unit is the one it came with.
66Stang reply :
Hello all,
Great forum on this nice boat. I just picked up the Pelican bass raider 8e from my brother in-law who gave it to me! Hoping to figure out how to take it with me when I take my camper out. We haul a scooter , so the bed of the truck is out. Can't wait to use it. I added the seats and had the trolling motor.
dunaway721 reply :
is anybody in this group located near east Tennessee/Knoxville , that would be interested in meeting up to fish.
also anybody done any tournament fishing in one of these boats
Davidgm_2000 reply :
On 9/15/2017 at 11:59 AM, Bassman33 said:HI TRY THIS MADE FROM PLYWOOD, DOWELS AND POST WORKS GREAT HELD UP ALL SUMMER SO FAR
Bassman33,
Any chance you can post some better pictures of how you made that seat bracket? Thanks.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 6/18/2018 at 5:52 AM, kylecurtsinger said:New here! Joined because this seems to be the best bass raider resource on the internets. Got mine 3 weeks ago and almost have it ready to go. After getting my ancient TM out of storage its not worth repairing...
Save that old TM & modify it to be a rudder, it makes a big difference when you have the working TM in the front. I believe there are a few posts about how different folks converted old TM's into rudders. I cut off the old motor housing & used a Bullnose Rudder (https://www.fishntech.com/bullnose_rudder.html) in its place, it works like a charm.
kylecurtsinger reply :
On 7/15/2018 at 5:13 AM, OCdockskipper said:Save that old TM & modify it to be a rudder, it makes a big difference when you have the working TM in the front. I believe there are a few posts about how different folks converted old TM's into rudders. I cut off the old motor housing & used a Bullnose Rudder (https://www.fishntech.com/bullnose_rudder.html) in its place, it works like a charm.
Lol i dont throw anything away. Never thought of the rudder idea. I have a 3d printer so i can make about anything i want.
RSA reply :
Another new guy here. Just finished with my bow mount for my Motor Guide X3. Will use same unit on my jon boat so it’s easily removable. No need to buy a quick release bracket. Two holes were drilled in Motorguide base and then threaded. Screw in the bolts and they are now studs. Simply drop onto the new mount and secure with wing nuts.
First time welding, so go easy on my welds ????
Orrsome reply :
Wow, that looks awesome. I've been brainstorming on how to put a bow mounted trolling motor on my raider. Actually thought about getting the Motorguide Bulldog but kind of hesitant on that. Do you use your boat by yourself? The bracket is nice but looks pretty big.
Dirtyeggroll reply :
On 7/27/2018 at 6:43 AM, RSA said:Another new guy here. Just finished with my bow mount for my Motor Guide X3. Will use same unit on my jon boat so it’s easily removable. No need to buy a quick release bracket. Two holes were drilled in Motorguide base and then threaded. Screw in the bolts and they are now studs. Simply drop onto the new mount and secure with wing nuts.
First time welding, so go easy on my welds ????
When will this bracket be available for purchase?
RSA reply :
On 7/28/2018 at 12:59 AM, Dirtyeggroll said:When will this bracket be available for purchase?
Haha, actually my good friend fabricated the bracket. I imagine if there was enough interest he might consider making up a batch.
On 7/27/2018 at 9:05 AM, Orrsome said:Wow, that looks awesome. I've been brainstorming on how to put a bow mounted trolling motor on my raider. Actually thought about getting the Motorguide Bulldog but kind of hesitant on that. Do you use your boat by yourself? The bracket is nice but looks pretty big.
The bracket looks bigger than it is, especially in that one picture. I plan on fishing solo and with a partner at times. Still figuring out how I want my seat set up. I want to go with a power pedestal so I can stand or sit.
choppertime reply :
1 or 2 batteries? I'm adding a fish finder and not sure if I should use the deep cycle main battery to operate fish finder and trolling motor...traxxis 55...or use a separate f f battery. The main battery has never gone below 2/3rds charge after 4-5 hrs of stop and go fishing, not sure of the amp draw of f f...Thanks for some input.
Dirtyeggroll reply :
On 7/28/2018 at 7:14 PM, choppertime said:1 or 2 batteries? I'm adding a fish finder and not sure if I should use the deep cycle main battery to operate fish finder and trolling motor...traxxis 55...or use a separate f f battery. The main battery has never gone below 2/3rds charge after 4-5 hrs of stop and go fishing, not sure of the amp draw of f f...Thanks for some input.
1 battery should be plenty
Orrsome reply :
Would love to see the finished product. Maybe a video or come pick me up we can go fishing!!! LOL!!!! Just kidding, kind of. You did an awesome job and it looks great!!! Good luck with everything.
DScruggs reply :
Another newbie on this thread....
I bought an old Pelican....the model before they came up with the Bass Raider moniker, I believe. Bought it from a fellow that made numerous modifications electrically. I love this little boat, but it must be 15 years old and the paint is pealing badly. (new ones I've seen don't look painted at all).
Any suggestions for how to re-paint the craft? Would I need to fully strip all excess before painting? What kind of paint would be required? Any suggestions?
DScruggs reply :
just researched....I must have an original Bass Raider from 2006....somebody painted over all of the decals. Still curious about suggestions re re-painting...kind of paint, prep needed.
Leftymuk reply :
Don't know what you are talking about......those are great looking welds
kylecurtsinger reply :
So ended up with a 31 group battery, that paired with my endura 40 TM it scoots across the water good. Did find out not to try and load this on a steep boat ramp, most areas ill go will have bank access. Good test run to figure out loading configuration. 
Derek1 reply :
That awsome, really hoping to pick one up next spring lots of small ponds Around here that would be perfect for. Good luck with it.
Bassman33 reply :
On 7/15/2018 at 1:17 AM, Davidgm_2000 said:Bassman33,
Any chance you can post some better pictures of how you made that seat bracket? Thanks.
HI I JUST USED DOWELS FASTENED WITH 4X 8-32 BOLTS ON CORNERS.DRILLED HOLES PART WAY THRU 5/8 CABINET GRADE
PLYWOOD INTO DOWELS 1" I THINK WITH THEM IN BOAT TOOK OUT AND FINISHED DRILLING THRU AND THEN FASTENED POST WITH 4X 1/4-20 BOLTS. PUT RUBBER CAPS ON DOWEL ENDS MAKES SNUG FIT.
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
Hello everyone, been awhile...been busy with life.
I still have my Bass Raider.
Anyone located on the Eastern Shore near Salisbury Maryland? Wanted to see if there were any Bass Raider owners near me.
Good to see people still posting about these boats. They are great!
bird-dog reply :
On 10/31/2016 at 11:23 PM, etex said:
ApacheGuns515 reply :
So mine's not nearly as purdy as the rest of yall's but she does the job quite well for what I need. Bought it years ago for like 100 bucks from some guys back yard. I think it's an old model bass hunter or something like that. Either way it floats and the thing is virtually indestructible. I leave it in the river behind my house where you see it most of the time. In fact I accidentally left it in the water back there last winter and the river actually froze with the boat in it lol. Spring came and it thawed right out and kept on floating right there. Prior to that it sat in that guys yard out in the elements for like 10 years.
I'm pretty sure that thing will remain in tact for the rest of my life unless I take a shotgun to it or something lol. Not even a crack in it...
Anyway, here's a few pics from this morning. Nothing fancy, no mods, most of my fishing money is spent on my kayak, I just toss random stuff in the little bass boat and roll out.
cwalls reply :
Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and it's been awesome reading comments and seeing your pics...I'm about to go pick up my first bass raider 10E. I will be hauling it in the back of my truck, and I was wondering if there's any pointers you got that I may need to know as far as loading/transporting it goes?
ApacheGuns515 reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 11:56 PM, cwalls said:Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and it's been awesome reading comments and seeing your pics...I'm about to go pick up my first bass raider 10E. I will be hauling it in the back of my truck, and I was wondering if there's any pointers you got that I may need to know as far as loading/transporting it goes?
What size truck to you have? Full size or midsize? If full size then it should fit in the back no problem but if you have a Ranger or a Tacoma or something then the pontoons will have to sit above the wheel humps in the bed.
As far as loading it goes simply lift it front end up and set it on the tailgate. Keep one hand on it as you transition to the rear to lift it up as they tend to slide back in that position. Lift the back end up and slide her on in there and strap it down. Unload the same way. Just remember to always keep a hand on it while you are moving to lift it up or slide it out when it's on the tailgate.
You can either bungee the seat down while it's on the boat in your truck bed or remove the seat and stick it in the cab if you have room.
Enjoy! These little boats are fantastic.
cwalls reply :
On 10/11/2018 at 6:01 AM, ApacheGuns515 said:What size truck to you have? Full size or midsize? If full size then it should fit in the back no problem but if you have a Ranger or a Tacoma or something then the pontoons will have to sit above the wheel humps in the bed.
As far as loading it goes simply lift it front end up and set it on the tailgate. Keep one hand on it as you transition to the rear to lift it up as they tend to slide back in that position. Lift the back end up and slide her on in there and strap it down. Unload the same way. Just remember to always keep a hand on it while you are moving to lift it up or slide it out when it's on the tailgate.
You can either bungee the seat down while it's on the boat in your truck bed or remove the seat and stick it in the cab if you have room.
Enjoy! These little boats are fantastic.
Thanks for the advice! I have a full size truck, I'm mostly concerned about losing seats, or anything else while I drive, so thanks again!
Dirt reply :
It will take a few trial runs to figure out the best way to launch/load depending on your lake etc. I use bungee cords or rope attached to the front handles, while standing in the bed, and just lift it up into the bed. If the lake has a dock I don’t get wet one bit. Let it out into the water the same way, just slide it out with bungee cords, step to the dock and tie it on. I leave the seat in it along with the rods strapped in, the less stuff to bring in and out the easier it is.
I leave the seat on for transportation but have it secured with a bungee cord that has caribiners on each end. One on the seat, one on a front handle. Then I use cam style tie downs for the rear of the truck, and bungee cords on all 4 corners.
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 7/13/2012 at 10:53 PM, dman said:My 8E ready for business
Hello to all. This is my first post, and will be purchasing a 10e soon. I am new here, but have been following a lot of posts on the bass raider mods on this forum for some time now, gearing up for next year. I was particularly interested in the rudder build/installation of dman in this pic. Not sure if that info is somewhere else, but I haven't seen it yet. I apologize if I haven't used my search engine enough.
dman reply :
On 11/2/2018 at 9:31 PM, Murphy S. Law said:Hello to all. This is my first post, and will be purchasing a 10e soon. I am new here, but have been following a lot of posts on the bass raider mods on this forum for some time now, gearing up for next year. I was particularly interested in the rudder build/installation of dman in this pic. Not sure if that info is somewhere else, but I haven't seen it yet. I apologize if I haven't used my search engine enough.
Hey There,
I got that rudder from a website that is long gone , unfortunately. I think I paid about $45 for it. I've been asked about it a lot so if there is any metal fabricators out there, I can provide pics and measurements.
Murphy S. Law reply :
Thanks dman. Do you already have that info posted?
Larry parham reply :
New to the site. I have a pelican bass raider 10e. Looking for a boat cover for it. I keep the boat outside at my son’s house. He has about a 4 acre lake in his backyard.
Murphy S. Law reply :
I got my Bass Raider 10e yesterday! I have been looking at the one they have at academy sports, and it has been $599 forever. I keep waiting for it to go on sale, but it hasn't yet. I went in yesterday to get some chatterbaits, and figured I would stroll by the raider display just to be disappointed again, but there was a sign laying on the shelf next to the raider, that said "HOT DEAL" $549. So I inquired about it and it turns out that the real price was on the opposite side of the sign... $599. But since the sign said the other price, they honored it and gave it to me for $549. I told them to let me call my wife to make sure it was ok (3 guys laughing in background), and I would let them know in a minute.
So I get it ok'd by the chief, and go back over there and can't find the guys I was talking to. So another guy walks up, and I explain the whole ordeal to him again, hoping he would just agree and process my request. Well he not only did honor the price as promised, but for my inconvenience of the other guys not being there when I came back, he knocked another $20 off! So I ended up getting the raider for $529 plus tax. Not too bad.
Derek1 reply :
On 11/16/2018 at 4:44 AM, Murphy S. Law said:I got my Bass Raider 10e yesterday! I have been looking at the one they have at academy sports, and it has been $599 forever. I keep waiting for it to go on sale, but it hasn't yet. I went in yesterday to get some chatterbaits, and figured I would stroll by the raider display just to be disappointed again, but there was a sign laying on the shelf next to the raider, that said "HOT DEAL" $549. So I inquired about it and it turns out that the real price was on the opposite side of the sign... $599. But since the sign said the other price, they honored it and gave it to me for $549. I told them to let me call my wife to make sure it was ok (3 guys laughing in background), and I would let them know in a minute.
So I get it ok'd by the chief, and go back over there and can't find the guys I was talking to. So another guy walks up, and I explain the whole ordeal to him again, hoping he would just agree and process my request. Well he not only did honor the price as promised, but for my inconvenience of the other guys not being there when I came back, he knocked another $20 off! So I ended up getting the raider for $529 plus tax. Not too bad.
Good for you, I’m hopping to pick one up for next spring. Or one of the other makes. They seem like they will be perfect for the little ponds and lakes I like.
Ratherbfishing reply :
On 10/11/2018 at 6:01 AM, ApacheGuns515 said:What size truck to you have? Full size or midsize? If full size then it should fit in the back no problem but if you have a Ranger or a Tacoma or something then the pontoons will have to sit above the wheel humps in the bed.
As far as loading it goes simply lift it front end up and set it on the tailgate. Keep one hand on it as you transition to the rear to lift it up as they tend to slide back in that position. Lift the back end up and slide her on in there and strap it down. Unload the same way. Just remember to always keep a hand on it while you are moving to lift it up or slide it out when it's on the tailgate.
You can either bungee the seat down while it's on the boat in your truck bed or remove the seat and stick it in the cab if you have room.
Enjoy! These little boats are fantastic.
Actually, I had a Tacoma (sold it to my brother) and the Bass Raider just barely fit between the wheel wells. You couldn't fit a sheet of paper between them, though.
Murphy S. Law reply :
I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. I was actually able to start working a little on my new raider. I started with cutting 1/4" luan plywood for the floor. I then cut and fit some anti fatigue mats over that, that I bought at Harbor Freight for $7-8. 1 set came up 1/2 a piece short, so I bought 2 sets, and used the rest in my shop. I will prime/paint the luan for water proofing, and after any/all wiring of future mods is complete, I will velcro or double side tape the flooring to secure. I do want to be able to remove it easily when needed though. Cut width of luan was 20", and cut width for mat was 21".
LionHeart reply :
On 10/9/2018 at 4:59 AM, ApacheGuns515 said:So mine's not nearly as purdy as the rest of yall's but she does the job quite well for what I need. Bought it years ago for like 100 bucks from some guys back yard. I think it's an old model bass hunter or something like that. Either way it floats and the thing is virtually indestructible. I leave it in the river behind my house where you see it most of the time. In fact I accidentally left it in the water back there last winter and the river actually froze with the boat in it lol. Spring came and it thawed right out and kept on floating right there. Prior to that it sat in that guys yard out in the elements for like 10 years.
I'm pretty sure that thing will remain in tact for the rest of my life unless I take a shotgun to it or something lol. Not even a crack in it...
Anyway, here's a few pics from this morning. Nothing fancy, no mods, most of my fishing money is spent on my kayak, I just toss random stuff in the little bass boat and roll out.
Is that a shallow water anchor? How do you like it?
Mark P1958 reply :
Murphy s Law ,have you been able to stand on the flooring yet / was wondering how the 1/4" does .I weigh 250# and not sure if I should try 3/8 or 1/2 . I only want to do the section just in front of the single seat of my 10e
Picked up a bare bones last week for 275$ bill of sale only , got an affidavit saying it was never titled because of pond use only
Already had the TM / battery and tiller extension so I bow mounted it and load it on the trailer backwards
Murphy S. Law reply :
Mark P1958, nice steal. I weigh in at 205lbs., and the 1/4" is fine. The anti fatigue mat gives cushion, and together it makes the grooved raider floor unnoticeable to me. I just wanted to get rid of that groovy feeling under my feet while minimizing any extra weight by heavier lumber. For me, it works.
J Francho reply :
On 12/4/2018 at 1:56 AM, Murphy S. Law said:The anti fatigue mat gives cushion, and together it makes the grooved raider floor unnoticeable to me. I just wanted to get rid of that groovy feeling under my feet while minimizing any extra weight by heavier lumber. For me, it works.
That's a nice mod. I just started using Marine Mat in my kayak, and it's really comfy to stand on.
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 12/4/2018 at 2:13 AM, J Francho said:That's a nice mod. I just started using Marine Mat in my kayak, and it's really comfy to stand on.
Yep, 1/4" luan and anti fatigue mat... It's like fishing on air. Lol. Nah... haven't had the raider out yet. But it sounded like a great KVD mattress commercial tho! It does feel good under the feet! I'm in the middle of building a cabinet for the Mrs. for her stained glass hobby by Christmas, and totally renovating my hallway and dining room/kitchen, so the mods and raider will have to be here and there for now. I am constantly getting the things I need TO mod it, but actually getting around to doing it will be a process. Happy wife, happy life. I will post more pics as I do, tho. Thanks to all.
J Francho reply :
On 12/4/2018 at 2:40 AM, Murphy S. Law said:a great KVD mattress commercial
It's got that erratic action my wife just can't resist! ????
Mark P1958 reply :
On 12/4/2018 at 1:56 AM, Murphy S. Law said:Mark P1958, nice steal. I weigh in at 205lbs., and the 1/4" is fine. The anti fatigue mat gives cushion, and together it makes the grooved raider floor unnoticeable to me. I just wanted to get rid of that groovy feeling under my feet while minimizing any extra weight by heavier lumber. For me, it works.
I hear you the one time I've been out it was weird trying to stand on the bare floor . Looks like I'll be going to H freight soon!That was cool how you got the extra off on your 10e / to be clear mine did not include the trailer only a couple of paddles and 2 seats lol but I'm happy with he deal .
Murphy S. Law reply :
What size letters/numbers decals is everyone using on the sides of the bow and where is the best place to get them?
LonnieP reply :
On 12/13/2018 at 1:20 AM, Murphy S. Law said:What size letters/numbers decals is everyone using on the sides of the bow and where is the best place to get them?
I think they only come in one size. I got mine at Walmart in the boating section
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 12/13/2018 at 1:39 AM, LonnieP said:I think they only come in one size. I got mine at Walmart in the boating section
Gotcha. Thanks. I finally got my registration stickers/docs in the mail from ga dnr, so I will be putting the decals on this weekend.
J Francho reply :
USCG Rules:
The manner in which numbers are to be displayed on vessels is prescribed under Title 33 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 173.27. The basic tenets of the regulation are, the numbers must 1) be painted on or permanently attached to both sides of the forward half of the vessel, 2) be in plain vertical block characters of not less than 3 inches in height, 3) contrast with the color of the background and be distinctly visible and legible, 4) have spaces or hyphens that are equal in width to a letter or number other than "I" or "1" between the letter and number groupings, and 5) read from left to right.
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 12/13/2018 at 2:09 AM, J Francho said:USCG Rules:
The manner in which numbers are to be displayed on vessels is prescribed under Title 33 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 173.27. The basic tenets of the regulation are, the numbers must 1) be painted on or permanently attached to both sides of the forward half of the vessel, 2) be in plain vertical block characters of not less than 3 inches in height, 3) contrast with the color of the background and be distinctly visible and legible, 4) have spaces or hyphens that are equal in width to a letter or number other than "I" or "1" between the letter and number groupings, and 5) read from left to right.
Yep, read that, was just wondering if anyone was using larger than the minimum requirement of 3” on their raiders. I’ve seen one on YouTube that used larger custom printed decals. I believe he goes by “The Mechanical Owl”. He has a lot of great looking mods on his. Thanks.
J Francho reply :
Larger than three inches is not less than three inches.
As long as it's in block letters and in a contrasting color, it complies.
kentropy reply :
I picked up a Minn Kota power center to use with a Minn Kota 45 lb bow mount TM. The power center has a 60 Amp breaker but the TM requires a 50 amp. I believe all Minn Kotas below 50 lbs require a 50 Amp breaker but reading through this forum, it seems a lot of people use the 60 amp power center with smaller trolling motors that should require a smaller breaker or fuse. Is that a problem or is the difference between a 50 vs 60 amp breaker not significant enough to worry about? Do people add a 50 amp fuse to the box (sad to not use the built in breaker, which was half the reason why I bought the box.) Thanks
New to forum, read it all
Sportsman Angler 10’
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 12/23/2018 at 2:09 PM, kentropy said:I picked up a Minn Kota power center to use with a Minn Kota 45 lb bow mount TM. The power center has a 60 Amp breaker but the TM requires a 50 amp. I believe all Minn Kotas below 50 lbs require a 50 Amp breaker but reading through this forum, it seems a lot of people use the 60 amp power center with smaller trolling motors that should require a smaller breaker or fuse. Is that a problem or is the difference between a 50 vs 60 amp breaker not significant enough to worry about? Do people add a 50 amp fuse to the box (sad to not use the built in breaker, which was half the reason why I bought the box.) Thanks
New to forum, read it all
Sportsman Angler 10’
I'm no electrician, but I believe the way it works is that you can have more than is needed, just not less. In other words, as long as you have a breaker that is more than the required 50 amps, it should be good. But... if you had a trolling motor that required, say 75 amps, it would keep tripping the 60 amp breaker. I hope that makes sense, and I hope I am right, because I just bought the power center and a minn kota 45lb. trolling motor also. ????
Bolar reply :
Well, if your motor calls for 50 amps use that. If you use a larger breaker, you run the risk of frying your wiring/motor if you pull more than 50 amps. Don't use a lower amp breaker, you might be tripping it all of the time for no good reason and become frustrated with the situation. What other people get away with...that should be another thread. 
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 1/2/2019 at 4:57 AM, Bolar said:Well, if your motor calls for 50 amps use that. If you use a larger breaker, you run the risk of frying your wiring/motor if you pull more than 50 amps. Don't use a lower amp breaker, you might be tripping it all of the time for no good reason and become frustrated with the situation. What other people get away with...that should be another thread.
Yep, U are correct about the wiring being at risk if you draw more than what the wiring is spec’d for. My research shows that the raider comes with 8g wiring. By Minn Kota specs., that will do for up to 45lb trolling motors. If I remember right, once you use a 50-55lb trolling motor they show using 6g wiring. This is the reason I did not get the 55 myself. And at 45 max amps, I trust the 60 amp breaker, and the 8g wiring that MinnKota specs.
Murphy S. Law reply :
Also, I removed the inline fuse that comes with the wiring in the back of the boat. I have heard others say that even though they have a power center with the 60 amp breaker, the inline fuse is rated much lower and if they get into heavy weeds/grass, it burns the fuse up and never allows the 60 amp breaker to do its job, leaving them motor-less. Just food for thought.
kentropy reply :
Thanks everyone. I guess the real question is what happens if you have a 45 ft lb motor that has a max amp rating of 50 A (and has specs that require a 50 amp fuse/breaker) but you use the power center with a built in 60 amp breaker and you get stuck in the weeds so your motor starts to strain and pulls 59 Amps. Will the motor blow before the 60 Amp breaker on the power center even triggers. I suspect most people running this setup don’t have an issue because manufacturers build a little wiggle room into their ratings, but I decided to not chance it and returned the power center. Besides having too high of a rating on the breaker, it’s too tall to fit under the seat easily. Nice concept but not perfect. Now I just need warm weather in Ohio to actually test things out on water that won’t kill me if I fall in. Thanks again
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
Hello folks I'm new to this group. Like a lot of you, I have a Bass raider 10E. I had been searching for a used one for a number of years. I've gone and looked at a couple that were beat to death and of different makes. I found the one I've got now on Craigslist shortly before Christmas. My wife was nice enough to buy it for me as an early Christmas present. She talked the guy down to $300 and we loaded in my truck. Did I mention all this took place in the rain? I'd post some pics but I'm at work and will be till the 23rd.
When I got it, The boat was unmodified. It came with the old style non foldable seats, paddle, mushroom anchor, and most importantly a title. I had a Minn Kota 32lb thrust Trolling motor tucked away in the garage. Let the games begin. Now to be open I have a 17' Bass boat, 25' offshore boat, and I'm a Chief engineer on a 300' offshore supply vessel. You could say boats are my second language. First day home I robbed a battery out of the bass boat, replaced one of the seats with a folding seat I had on the shelf secured the TM to the bow and launched the Raider in my backyard pond. The maiden voyage went fine but I quickly noticed the TM wouldn't clamp tight enough to stay secure, I needed a deck and a bigfoot button. Not a problem. To Lowes I went, I picked up a 3/8" piece of ply wood and had them rip in two pieces. 20" for the "test" Floor and the remainder for general purpose. I also picked up a Trolling motor plug and socket to replace the stock unit. That was a simple install. To remedy the clamping issue I was having I cut a small piece of the left over plywood to the exact size as the front motor mount on the boat. I removed the two screw on the inside and used them to secure the wood. The trolling motor jaws open just wide enough to fit and they bite really well on the wood. Problem solved. I had to go back to work I returned home the day after Christmas. We did our family Christmas the next morning. I got a Garmin 4(something) combo unit. Still not wanting to put holes in the hull I tried mounting the transducer to the tm foot and I mounted the unit on top of the trolling motor, robbing power from the motor. Basically making the Garmin and the motor one neat package. Works great in theory. Not so much in practice. Sitting still it works perfectly, turn on the motor not so good. Ok strike one. Wanting to be able to easily remove the motor the transducer needed to be moved as well. Theres more to the story but this is becoming a book. Stay tuned. To be continued.
Cliff Persick reply :
Hello .I am new to this also. I am interested in getting a two man. Was wandering, is this bass raider 10 e the most popular 2 man for mods?
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
Hello again. Lets see I last left off at, strike one one with depth finder location. I promise I'll post pictures of my build when I get off the ship. However, I did not take any pictures of the Garmin mounted to the trolling motor. It was pretty slick but, as I mentioned before the electrical interference was horrible. So from there I decided to mount the transducer to the back of the hull. Not wanting to put any screw holes below the water line, I decided I needed to install a mounting block. The back of the pontoons are rounder so simply gorilla glueing a piece of wood to the back would be a bit more complicated. No problem, I broke out the grinder. I cut a 6" pieces of 5/4 deck board that I had on hand and started sanding it to fit. I used a 36 grit flapper wheel on an angle grinder. A spindle sander would have been ideal but.... I don't have one. It took a bit of time but I managed fit the block fairly well to the shape of the hull. Next a liberal amount of Gorilla glue and I slapped it on the hull. I used Electrical tape to secure it in place till the glue dried. Duct tape would have probably been better, but I had electrical tape on hand. Once it was dry I simply screwed the bracket to the block and mounted the transducer, leaving the hinge bolt loose enough for the transducer to ratchet freely if it hits something. Transducer mounted, Check. I mounted the unit on the plywood flood and simply ran the wires along the edge of the floor securing them with insulated staples. As I mentioned this floor is the test piece. Once I fish it a few times I'll move things around till I like it. Then I'll worry about wire routing thru and under the floor.
Another short coming I noticed after leaving the boat out in the rain was the lack of scuppers. Easy fix, road trip to West Marine. I picked up a 3/4" thru hull fitting, 3/4" bait well plug and a Bigfoot switch for the trolling motor. Back home I used a 1" hole saw to cut the hole for the thru hull fitting. I cut it in the molded recessed area in the stern. Ran a bead of 5200 around the fitting and stabbed it in the hole. Next a light bead around the mounting nut and tightened it as much as I could by hand, then one more full turn with pliers. The hull is hollow so I didn't want to over tighten. Once the 5200 sets up its permanent. I bought a plug for the drain just in case water comes in with me in the boat. Im happy to report it does not. I also picked up a cheap battery box from WalMart. I mounted the tie down strap brackets to the plywood in the stern with short brass screws. I mentioned before that I robbed this battery from my bass boat. Its a group 29 battery so its pretty stout as far as weight goes. When sitting empty in the water the battery keeps the stern just a touch lower this lets the new scupper work its magic. No more water in the boat. With out the expense of a bilge pump, automatic float switch, piping ect.
The Bigfoot switch was an easy install. I mounted it to the floor with short brass screws and ran the wires along the edge same as the depth finder. Cut and spliced into the negative wire going to the trolling motor plug. I did need to add a short piece, I simply matched the gauge that came stock with the boat. I think it's 10 gauge but I could be mistaken. So far thats all I've done. Once I'm happy with mounting locations I'll proceed with phase two. I will start with a new piece of plywood that I have on hand. Mainly because my first piece soaked overnight in rain water. I may possibly cover it with carpet or the anti fatigue mat from Harbor freight. Oh speaking of Harbor Freight I also built a simple dolly for the boat. But thats for another day. Stay Tuned.
Bearsfan67205 reply :
Does anyone have any ideas on a rudder for my pelican bass raider ? I would love to set up my troller motor up front instead of in back . The only problem is without the rudder my boat moves all over the place .
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 1/14/2019 at 3:25 AM, Bearsfan67205 said:Does anyone have any ideas on a rudder for my pelican bass raider ? I would love to set up my troller motor up front instead of in back . The only problem is without the rudder my boat moves all over the place .
Several Ideas in this thread. This is what page 113. I've been reading it for several days now. Lots of good information here. Just start reading. Enjoy.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
Ok gang here's my question. Has anyone taken their Raider or similar style boat in swift current river? I live in Florida so most the rivers in my area are sand bottom. I have the Shoal river near my house. It's a pretty swift very windee river. Theres 2 places to launch on opposite ends of town. As the crow flies its maybe five miles as the river twists its a 4 to 5 hour journey. I can stage the wife's car at the lower end, launch at the upper end and have her take my truck to the lower landing. I've made the trip several times. Although it's been many years ago in a 13' fiberglass river boat. I wouldn't dream of doing it in my 17' Bass boat. My Pelican on the other hand....That opens a new can of worms. I have a 32lb Minn Kota mounted on the front. I'm seriously considering getting a 55 for the back using it for a rudder and extra power for longer transits. I shouldn't need to worry about battery power the river will do most of the work. Plus its a pretty new 29 series battery I would be using the motor to basically slow my progress and keep outta the snags. I'm sure its stable enough. Not having a gas motor back up is my issue, I guess.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 1/14/2019 at 3:25 AM, Bearsfan67205 said:Does anyone have any ideas on a rudder for my pelican bass raider ?
I originally carved a piece of Plexiglas & clamped it on to an old trolling motor shaft that I had cut the motor & head unit off. Later, I ended up using this (https://bullnoseproducts.com/rudder/) on the same TM shaft and it has worked great for years.
Dirt reply :
On 1/14/2019 at 3:25 AM, Bearsfan67205 said:Does anyone have any ideas on a rudder for my pelican bass raider ? I would love to set up my troller motor up front instead of in back . The only problem is without the rudder my boat moves all over the place .
If you balance enough weight to the rear it won’t need one. An extension handle on the trolling motor will help get your body back further
On 11/26/2018 at 11:19 PM, Murphy S. Law said:I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. I was actually able to start working a little on my new raider. I started with cutting 1/4" luan plywood for the floor. I then cut and fit some anti fatigue mats over that, that I bought at Harbor Freight for $7-8. 1 set came up 1/2 a piece short, so I bought 2 sets, and used the rest in my shop. I will prime/paint the luan for water proofing, and after any/all wiring of future mods is complete, I will velcro or double side tape the flooring to secure. I do want to be able to remove it easily when needed though. Cut width of luan was 20", and cut width for mat was 21".
That looks great. I’ve wanted to do something like this but nervous wind could get under it during highway trips somehow and fly out. Been thinking of a decent way to secure it
J Francho reply :
On 1/15/2019 at 11:57 PM, Dirt said:If you balance enough weight to the rear it won’t need one. An extension handle on the trolling motor will help get your body back further
That looks great. I’ve wanted to do something like this but nervous wind could get under it during highway trips somehow and fly out. Been thinking of a decent way to secure it
Well nuts would do the trick.
Dirt reply :
On 1/16/2019 at 12:14 AM, J Francho said:Well nuts would do the trick.
That’s what I’ve been leaning towards. They’ve been mostly great for everything else I’ve attached on there
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 1/15/2019 at 11:57 PM, Dirt said:That looks great. I’ve wanted to do something like this but nervous wind could get under it during highway trips somehow and fly out. Been thinking of a decent way to secure it
Thanks. I didn't get around to securing it yet, and after taking the raider out for the first time this past Saturday, I really don't know if I will. I had all of my gear, tackle box, chair strapped upside down, carpeted deck, trolling motor and rudder laying in the floor while riding, and it didn't budge with all that stuff on top of it. I will post more pics of what I have accomplished on it so far soon.
Murphy S. Law reply :
Here is my rudder.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 1/17/2019 at 11:21 PM, Murphy S. Law said:Here is my rudder.
Thats a new style trolling motor bracket! Must have been a Motor Guide to give up so soon. Just Kidding, LOL I've been waiting patiently (18years) for my 32lb Minn Kota to die. I really do like the looks of that. I was thinking about buying a new 55lb for the stern and adding a rudder to that. I've noticed if I sit farther back I don't have as many problems with it wandering. I'm in the 270 - 280 lb range, so I can make it pop a wheelie. lol.
Murphy S. Law reply :
Yep new bracket. I think it was $33 on eBay. I couldn’t find a used one. Here is more on my rudder...
Murphy S. Law reply :
Replaced bolts with eye bolts to use bungee cord. This keeps the free swinging arm in place if an obstacle is encountered. Also a pic of a pin with a cotter pin to keep the lever latch on the bracket open to allow the rudder to free swing for obstacles.
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I like it even better now! Outstanding Idea. What did you use for the shaft? PVC or did a shaft come with the bracket?
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 1/18/2019 at 9:57 PM, Hi-Powered Red Neck said:I like it even better now! Outstanding Idea. What did you use for the shaft? PVC or did a shaft come with the bracket?
3/4” x 30” metal pipe at Lowe’s in the plumbing section. I believe around $13 for this length.
Murphy S. Law reply :
The rudder fin is made from 3 pieces of 8”x10”x1/8” lexan plexiglass sandwiched together with ss bolts, nuts, and washers, and the whole shaft and fin was painted with 3 coats of krylon fusion spray paint. These little things add up. I have around $60 in the rudder assembly total!
My anchor control.
The trolling motor bracket screws kept trying to slip a little, so I have added skateboard grip tape on the front transom plate. Going to test tomorrow.
Murphy S. Law reply :
Garmin Striker 4cv. Wiring tbd, and still learning how to read.
Battery for my Garmin, Velcro’d to the tray... perfect fit.
Murphy S. Law reply :
Quick connect Anderson plugs soldered to all battery/tm wiring so I can easily swap the tm to the back if I want.
Also, my front tm plug is so tight getting in and out, this helps.
My emergency paddle.
My extendable gaff.
And finger????
Murphy S. Law reply :
Note, if I was to start over on the paddle and gaff mounts, I would use something different than the yak gear plastic ones here. They are too tight, they are not durable enough to properly tighten to the boat without cracking the mount itself, and were the biggest pita! I give them a 1 star for poor material/design. But once you drill the holes in your raider, it’s kind of too late to change mounts without doing something with the open holes. I ended up using rubber well nuts, but had to drill out the mount’s holes to fit larger bolts through. Again, BIG pita! They are really made for through hull where you can reach inside to apply nuts.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 1/18/2019 at 11:22 PM, Murphy S. Law said:The trolling motor bracket screws kept trying to slip a little, so I have added skateboard grip tape on the front transom plate. Going to test tomorrow.
I had the same problem. My solution was a scrap piece of 3/8" ply wood. I cut it the same size as the forward transom plate. I removed the screws and used them to secure the plywood. The Trolling motor clamp opens just wide enough to go over it. And it really bites into the wood. No more trolling motor slippage. When I have to replace the plywood, I'm thinking about a 1/4" on each side. My TM shaft rubs on the rub rail in the fully down position. Its not that bad but sometimes I have to push the locking dogs into place after I've had the motor raised. I normally leave the boat in the water unless I'm pond hopping. I can only fish my little 5 acre pond so much. I work 14 on and 14 off. So when I'm home the raider lives in my truck during the week. I fish while the wife's at work and the boy is in school. When I get home I'll post pics of my build. I just got it for an early Christmas present. My 17' Glasstream already hates it. So much easier to load up and go. I've fished 6 ponds that I've been looking at for years now. Of course out of the six I'd as one was worth a return trip. I'm Chomping at the bit I get home the 23rd. This time home I'm finalizing the floor. I'm thinking of the harbor freight anti fatigue mat over plywood with some gray carpet covering the lot.
choppertime reply :
I used 2 spring locks on the right side attached them where the boat 1/2`s come together and made a pole out of 3/4 pvc sharpened 1 end filled it with sand made a handle for it like a flats boat push pole...oh I filled the sharp end with in with jb weld....I tie it to the bracket right rear and have had no issues...it kinda works like a power pole Sept way cheaper....if you can't push it in the bottom ot the lake it will at least float..it's 8 foot long....shoulda made it 10 ....if I go deeper I just drift....my g/f occupies the front so not to bad in the wind....hope this helps
Murphy S. Law reply :
Just food for thought, the academy sports that I purchased my bass raider from has not received any new bass raiders in store. They have, however placed one of the what looks like a pelican predator boat in the display space instead. Also, it looks like online, academy is still selling the bass raider, but have increased the price from $599.99 to $639.99.
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I have come to the humbling conclusion that I am too old to load and unload my raider into my Chevy Silverado bed. Actually, it is doable, but I don't want to have to keep unloading and reloading everything out of the raider just to be able to manage the task. I want to keep everything loaded to fish so I can pull up, put in water, fish, dock, get boat, and leave.
So I have located an old harbor freight 4x8 trailer that I actually got for free. I am in the middle of updating everything on it to use for my raider. So far I have replaced the existing wheels/tires with new ones that I also got for free due to a recall hf has on them, and I have dismantled the frame from the axle, and removed the old plywood. I am now about 60% finished with grinding the old chipping paint and rust off so I can paint it black. I am also installing new led lights and wiring, and replacing plywood and carpeting. The local tag office will inspect it when finished, and tag/register it as a "homemade trailer".
I can't wait to have it all come together, because I love this little boat, but I hate the loading/unloading process. Then again... maybe I'm just lazy.????
choppertime reply :
Your not being lazy your being smart, loading on a trailer is much easier,I have the same hf trailer with plywood and carpet,just remember once on the trailer if battery and or trolling motor is in the back tie the front of the boat down or it will pull a wheelie when you pull it out of the water,I've had mine since 2013 and love it,have taken on some major waves from the pretend to be bass pros in their high dollar boats, kinda scary but have never had a issue.....enjoy the little boat, no gas or oil to worry about, gets you in skinny water, and myself and gf have caught plenty of fish out of it
Murphy S. Law reply :
Thanks for the wheelie advice. I would have probably found that out the hard way!
Dr. Big Dog reply :
Curious what size bodies of water you guys use your boats on.
LonnieP reply :
On 1/26/2019 at 3:13 AM, Dr. Big Dog said:Curious what size bodies of water you guys use your boats on.
10 to 3100 acres
John Walter Sewell reply :
On 1/26/2019 at 3:13 AM, Dr. Big Dog said:Curious what size bodies of water you guys use your boats on.
14,000 and 60,000 acres so far
Dr. Big Dog reply :
Bass Hunter Boats are made about an hour from where I live. I drove down today to check them out. The first boat I looked at was the Bass Hunter 120. It had a small dent in the top of one of the rails. It was purely cosmetic and not even that bad. The boat was brand new, never in the water. They gave me a $450 discount! I got the millennium chairs with the aluminum adjustable bases. I’m stoked! This is a great boat! My dad and I fished for years out of an 8’ sun dolphin. This is an upgrade for sure. That extra 2’ makes a huge difference. Now it’s time to customize it. Proud to join the ranks of the mini bass boat anglers!
tstone870 reply :
On 1/27/2019 at 6:02 AM, Dr. Big Dog said:Bass Hunter Boats are made about an hour from where I live. I drove down today to check them out. The first boat I looked at was the Bass Hunter 120. It had a small dent in the top of one of the rails. It was purely cosmetic and not even that bad. The boat was brand new, never in the water. They gave me a $450 discount! I got the millennium chairs with the aluminum adjustable bases. I’m stoked! This is a great boat! My dad and I fished for years out of an 8’ sun dolphin. This is an upgrade for sure. That extra 2’ makes a huge difference. Now it’s time to customize it. Proud to join the ranks of the mini bass boat anglers!
Dr Big Dog, I bought the exact same boat as you last summer. They had advertised a "scratch and dent sale" on Craigslist and I drove up (from Clarke Co.) and bought one. I love mine. One suggestion I'd highly recommend is a dolly of some sort to move/ launch the boat. This sucker is heavy! I made one from a scrap 2 X 8 and some pneumatic casters from Harbour Freight. Kinda wish I would have sprung for the Millenium seats too.
Dr. Big Dog reply :
On 1/27/2019 at 3:11 PM, tstone870 said:Dr Big Dog, I bought the exact same boat as you last summer. They had advertised a "scratch and dent sale" on Craigslist and I drove up (from Clarke Co.) and bought one. I love mine. One suggestion I'd highly recommend is a dolly of some sort to move/ launch the boat. This sucker is heavy! I made one from a scrap 2 X 8 and some pneumatic casters from Harbour Freight. Kinda wish I would have sprung for the Millenium seats too.
I bought the dolly they make to go with it.
tstone870 reply :
On 1/27/2019 at 8:37 PM, Dr. Big Dog said:I bought the dolly they make to go with it.
Good deal. I've often wondered why they didn't put the wheels on the 120 (and handles on the side) like the Bass Baby has.
Bearsfan67205 reply :
Any ideas on seat bracket mods for the pelican bass raider ? I use the standard aluminum brackets that come with the boat . I am a big guy and I don’t know how much I trust the aluminum brackets .
GLK reply :
On 1/29/2019 at 9:04 AM, Bearsfan67205 said:Any ideas on seat bracket mods for the pelican bass raider ? I use the standard aluminum brackets that come with the boat . I am a big guy and I don’t know how much I trust the aluminum brackets .
I attached a 2 x 6 the width of the bracket to sturdy it up. I also like the extra height.
Bearsfan67205 reply :
You got a photo of it ?
GLK reply :
On 1/29/2019 at 9:18 AM, Bearsfan67205 said:You got a photo of it ?
Not a Raider but same kind of bracket
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 1/26/2019 at 3:13 AM, Dr. Big Dog said:Curious what size bodies of water you guys use your boats on.
So far, 10-50 acres, and calmer fingers of the Savannah River down here. Congrats on the new toy.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
I used a Scotty mount bracket to mount the transducer. I used the existing bolt holding the transom plate. You can also see the scupper hole I added. I used a 3/4” thru hull fitting and 5200 to seal it. This allows me to leave the boat in the water. For the floor I used 3/8” ply wood, I glued down anti-fatigue mat from Harbor freight, trimmed the edges with a razor blade, then covered it with outdoor carpet from Lowe’s. I mounted the Garmin bracket to the floor, and added a Bigfoot Switch to control the 32ld trolling motor mounted up front. 
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 2/1/2019 at 2:46 PM, Hi-Powered Red Neck said:and added a Bigfoot Switch to control the 32ld trolling motor mounted up front.
I haven't installed my bigfoot switch yet. Have you had a chance to really try it out?
Poney reply :
On 1/29/2019 at 9:04 AM, Bearsfan67205 said:Any ideas on seat bracket mods for the pelican bass raider ? I use the standard aluminum brackets that come with the boat . I am a big guy and I don’t know how much I trust the aluminum brackets .
http://www.smallwatersports.com/store/c3/Seat_Products.html
This guy makes stronger seat brackets for pond boats. He used to also make a conduit rail that was attached to the track, and the seats would ride "inside" the track, so they wouldn't tip out. They are not on the website any longer, so dont know if he still makes them, but might wanna give him a call and find out.
I added a 5" riser to the original bracket on mine, and it was starting to sag. I have talked to this guy multiple times about making a seat frame that was 5in taller, since he offers "engineering services",but he wont do it.
Being just a few inches higher makes so much difference, that Im going to have a welder just make me some. Ill post pics when I get them.
LonnieP reply :
On 2/2/2019 at 4:40 AM, Murphy S. Law said:I haven't installed my bigfoot switch yet. Have you had a chance to really try it out?
I’ve had a Bigfoot switch on my Pond Prowler the past 3 years and I can easily say it’s the best thing I’ve added to it, I can’t imagine fishing without it. The bad thing is they only last about a year if that long. I just bought my third replacement one last week.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 2/2/2019 at 4:40 AM, Murphy S. Law said:I haven't installed my bigfoot switch yet. Have you had a chance to really try it out?
I highly recommend the Bigfoot switch. I’ve been using them for 25 years. I will say their not as good as they used to be. The first one I had was on my first “bass” fishing set up. It lasted well over 5 years till I sold the boat.
The control you gain by installing it is hard to beat, with out going to a foot control motor. I normally leave my TM on 1 or 2 depending on the wind and battery state. Just tap the switch, instant power. I’m a big guy, 270ish. I run my motor up front, battery in back, and I sit slightly aft of center. This puts the stern deeper so I don’t need a rudder. I use 2 shop vac extension tubes to extend the motor handle. Works great and way cheaper than a $35 extension handle!
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Here’s my setup for the backyard pond. Only difference from when I travel is the addition on a throw cushion, anchor(10 lb mushroom), and life vest. Notice the “shop vac” tube motor handle extension. I had one on hand already. I just bought the second. $6.47 a piece at Lowe’s. The fit the handle of my tm well enough to stay attached and allow me to change speeds. 
Derek1 reply :
Nice stuff guys, I’m really hoping to get one of these soon.
Bearsfan67205 reply :
I put a 7 inch pedestal on my standard pelican aluminum seat bracket . Is that to high ? Am I asking for trouble with having the seat that much higher ? Thoughts ?
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 2/3/2019 at 5:50 AM, Bearsfan67205 said:I put a 7 inch pedestal on my standard pelican aluminum seat bracket . Is that to high ? Am I asking for trouble with having the seat that much higher ? Thoughts ?
I have a 7” pedestal on mine, and I am 5’9”. My feet don’t sit flat on the floor, but with the deck in front of me, it’s quite comfortable. Also, if you are facing sideways casting, it is comfortable also with your feet on the sides. I’m still getting used to it.
Also, for the Bigfoot switch, how and where are you guys mounting the switch?
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 6/24/2017 at 1:17 AM, Topkick said:Picked up my Pelican the first of June and finished it this morning. Can't wait to get it on the lake. I had an original Bass Buster in the 80's and stayed the bass with it. I live on Lake Kiowa (560 acres) which was too small for my pontoon but just right for the Pelican. It's got a 54 lb thrust Motorguide Bulldog to push it and the ice chest is a functioning live well. Also set it up for night fishing. The Crappie and Sand Bass fishing is fantastic here.
Hey Topkick, I am in the process of building my hf trailer for my raider. What boards did you use for the bunks? Looks good!
Poney reply :
Been working on some new mods for my ol bass raider. Ill post up a full set of the completed project when finished, but here is a sneak peak.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 2/4/2019 at 7:03 AM, Murphy S. Law said:Also, for the Bigfoot switch, how and where are you guys mounting the switch?
I have the TM in front, along with my seat. I mounted my Bigfoot directly to the sub floor I had carpeted & installed (use Marine grade plywood, it is more expensive, but worth it). I put it at a distance from the seat where I don't have to stretch my leg to reach it, but it is out of the way when I stand up.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
Hello again folks. Well I'm back at work wishin' I was fishin'. I work 2 week hitches so I'm at work for 2 weeks and home for 2 as well. I did a little fishing while I was home. Not nearly as much as I would have liked to but mother nature didn't want to cooperate. I'm not a hard core fish in any weather kinda guy. I stopped tournament fishing a long time ago. I've already covered the mods I did to the floor adding padding and carpet, added a Scotty mount for the transducer, As well as adding a big foot switch. The last thing I did the day before I had to come back to work was add a 7" extension to my seat. I'm between 6'2" and 6'4 depending on what convenience store I'm walking out of and I weigh around 270. I'm not sure I like that much added height. I fished it for several hours, to me it feels like I've taken away some of the stability of the craft. I think moving the center of gravity that high could be a bad idea. At least for a guy my size. You younger skinnier guys can get away with it no problem. For me it wasn't a scary situation but stability wise it's not far from standing. Yes, the boat is stable enough to stand and fish and I do. However, It just feels a bit on the unstable side. It's night and day difference form the stock seating height. It does make it much easier to turn around in the boat as well as fish off the side with my feet on the rail. But to me thats not a good trade off. I'm wanting to feel stable and still turn around easily. I'm thinking about cutting 2 inches out of it next time I'm home. I figure 2 inches would drop the center of gravity down a bit and still allow me to turn around. For me cutting and welding the pedestal is easy, I have the tools. I'll keep you posted on how it effects the stability.
I'm also kicking around the idea of a Troll King foot control for my trolling motor. It's way cheaper than a cable steer trolling motor and can be used on any hand control motor. I'm going to upgrade to a 55lb sooner or later and have been keeping my eye on craigslist and Facebook market place. I'll find one at a good price. I'm used to a foot control motor and believe the troll king would be a great upgrade. Looks well made and they have replacement parts available. Anybody using one? Your review would be appreciate.
TotalNoob reply :
Having major frustrations "controlling" the boat while trying to use both hands to fish.
I actually have a 10ft Pond Prowler II (essentially the same deal as the Bass Raider 10E). Figured I'd post here to try to draw as many eyes as possible.
Currently have a Minn Kota 45lb Endura Max at the transom. It's terrific for getting me around to areas. But I can't do anything with this motor in terms of making adjustments to the boat while standing and slowly working a jerkbait (or any slow presentation that matter). The motor handle sits too far down, so I'm constantly sitting back down to make adjustments... total mess.
I'm exploring all options including:
1) Engineering some kind of deck to add a traditional bowmount foot-controlled trolling motor
2) Minn Kota Traxxis 55lb for bow (possibly paired with this Bigfoot Switch everyone raves about in this thread)
3) Adding just a Bigfoot Switch
4) This "Troll King" contraption, though I can't find any reviews. Looks like a possibility but I don't see anyone else talking about it
5) "Motorguide Bulldog Peak Thrust Foot Control Trolling Motor, 54-Pound". Seems a little pricey and lists as a transom mount rather than a bow mount.
The ideal scenario is 100% foot control of boat while standing. If that can't happen, thoughts on second best scenario?
If I go option 2, I'm thinking I would leave the Endura Max 45 on the transom and add a Bullnose Rudder to it. The Traxxis looks pretty good in theory, would seem to offer some boat control while standing. Can anyone speak to their experience with the Minn Kota Traxxis on these boats?
Additionally, what shaft lengths are you guys running on your trolling motor? Amazon has the Traxxis 55 available in 36" and 42". The 42" is actually cheaper than the 36" (both have the Digital Maximizer). I'm thinking the longer shaft might allow me to keep the motor head in a higher position, offering even better access to the tilting handle while standing. Are there any substantial "cons" to the 42" shaft I should consider if I go this route?
Any feedback appreciated.
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On 2/12/2019 at 2:31 AM, TotalNoob said:Having major frustrations "controlling" the boat while trying to use both hands to fish.
I personally recommend you move the motor you have now to the front. Just lull the screw holding the head to the shaft turn and replace the screw. I have a 32lb thrust motor that works pretty good up front. Believe it or not you motor will pull the boat better than it pushes it. I've also added a big foot switch. While fishing I leave my setting on 1 or two and make micro adjustments with the foot switch. If you feel the boat moving you've given it to much input. These little boats take a lot of practice to maneuver. Wind and current as well as what lure your fishing all play a huge factor in boat control or the lack of it. A deep diving crank bait will pull these things around. I normally sit down to fish by positioning my self aft of center line with the group 29 battery in the back as well. This sinks the stern a bit giving the boat more bite. This keeps me from having to add a rudder. I also have an extension on my TM handle that lets me reach it from the seat. I used 2 shop vac tubes for the extension handle they fit the handle snug enough to switch power settings. If I have to turn farther than I can reach I sling it out then I use an eyelet on my rod to pull it back. I know some guys don't like to sit and fish. In my bass boat I stand all day. In my Pelican I sit I can do everything sitting I can do standing, to include flipping and pitching. Skipping lures under dock took a shotload of frustration and practice to figure out again. Try adding a riser to your seat. I added a 7" that is pretty close to standing height. I didn't care for the amount of instability it added but I do like the added height. I'm planning to cut 2 inches out of it and weld it back together. I think that will lower the center of gravity back down to a more comfortable level.
As far as the troll king if need be I'll be the first to review it. Because I plan on that being the next addition to my Pelican 10E. I've got some pictures of my set up minus the 7" seat riser I added that right before I left for work I only got a couple hours to try it out.
wasabi_VA reply :
I have the foot controlled transom-mount Bulldog (40 lb model) in my boat. Zero hand control, all foot. After awhile it becomes second nature and no pause in cast or retrieve. Its 10 years old and doing great.
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On 2/12/2019 at 2:31 AM, TotalNoob said:Additionally, what shaft lengths are you guys running on your trolling motor? Amazon has the Traxxis 55 available in 36" and 42". The 42" is actually cheaper than the 36" (both have the Digital Maximizer). I'm thinking the longer shaft might allow me to keep the motor head in a higher position, offering even better access to the tilting handle while standing. Are there any substantial "cons" to the 42" shaft I should consider if I go this route?
Noob, I'm running a 36" shaft motor. Keep in mind running the motor up front it has to be low enough so it doesn't hit the hull. If you look at my set up you'll see the control head is still fairly high. The handle on my motor tilts, so I raise it up a click or two when I'm standing. When seated I level it and I can still side arm cast over the top of it. I think another 6" taller it might be a problem. Now it's always possible to lower it deeper in the water but that also has its draw backs. For me being 6'2" the 36" with the tilt handle is the way to go. Standing or seated it's within easy reach and out of the way. Hope that answers your question.
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 2/12/2019 at 2:31 AM, TotalNoob said:4) This "Troll King" contraption, though I can't find any reviews. Looks like a possibility but I don't see anyone else talking about it
Total Noob. Here is a youtube vid that I recently found on the troll king. He stands while using it also.
I guess the reason my text was large and bold, is that I copied the title of the youtube vid and pasted here. That must have locked me in that font. Anyway...????
tstone870 reply :
On 2/13/2019 at 9:22 PM, Murphy S. Law said:Total Noob. Here is a youtube vid that I recently found on the troll king. He stands while using it also.
I guess the reason my text was large and bold, is that I copied the title of the youtube vid and pasted here. That must have locked me in that font. Anyway...????
That Troll King looks pretty sweet. I don't think I would screw it directly to the floor of my boat like the installation video shows, but otherwise I kinda like it.
TotalNoob reply :
Okay so after another trip out on my reservoir I've determined I'm going with two trolling motors and two batteries.
This will ensure I'll never be without propulsion should something unforeseen occur.
I currently have an Endura Max 45 (on the transom). This is attached to a minn kota trolling center.
What 2nd trolling motor would you get and how would you pair it with the current motor (second one in the front, etc)? What lb thrust is appropriate for a second motor given the situation?
Does anyone like the Traxxis motor? My research makes me think it might not be as "powerful" as the Endura Max but I'm willing to make that trade for better control at the bow/having hands free as much as possible for casting.
I intend to have both batteries in the rear and both hooked up to minn kota trolling centers.
This may be a stupid question but, if it rains or water splashes in, is there any issue with the exposed terminals on the trolling centers? I know the plastic wing nuts cover most of the terminals but where the trolling motor leads attach would be potentially exposed to water. Sorry if this is a silly question but I just want to make sure I set things up correctly.
Additionally, for those who use the Big Foot switch, how does the switch handle water on the deck? I have ordered a Big Foot switch, it's coming next week.
These are just some of the questions that have popped into my head after going out on this thing a few times. I'm glad I'm getting this all figured out now before fishing turns on.
Oh I also picked up a 7" riser for the seat and also swapped for a Butt Seat. Hoping this gives me a little more height and control over casting and presenting to the fish.
TotalNoob reply :
On 1/23/2018 at 9:11 AM, LonnieP said:Not a Bass Raider but here is my Pond Prowler
@LonnieP Is this still your setup (from last January?)
You mentioned potentially adding horizontal support, was wondering if you felt the need to do that after some use?
Additionally, given the location of the seat on the deck (at the one end), what is keeping the 3/4" plywood from essentially "flipping" when you're seated?
I'm looking at all kinds of potential options for my Pond Prowler II.
Oh also, very curious as to how the Big Foot switch handles moisture (rain, water splash, etc).
LonnieP reply :
On 2/17/2019 at 11:32 AM, TotalNoob said:@LonnieP Is this still your setup (from last January?)
You mentioned potentially adding horizontal support, was wondering if you felt the need to do that after some use?
Additionally, given the location of the seat on the deck (at the one end), what is keeping the 3/4" plywood from essentially "flipping" when you're seated?
I'm looking at all kinds of potential options for my Pond Prowler II.
Oh also, very curious as to how the Big Foot switch handles moisture (rain, water splash, etc).
I’ve made a few changes since those pictures were taken. New fish finder and I added 2 more feet of decking because I didn’t have much standing room where the seat was mounted. Haven’t added any support yet, but probably will soon. I’ve had 2 Bigfoot switches go bad in 3 years, not sure if getting wet caused the failures. Here are some newer pics of it.
BigBassHunter101 reply :
I’ve finally switched my mindset from getting a jon boat to getting a pelican bass raider 10E.. my question is do y’all think I should buy new or used? I have been checking Craigslist but have only seen one on there. Maybe it’s not a good time for be looking for them?
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On 2/19/2019 at 9:32 AM, Brandonsheffield22 said:I’ve finally switched my mindset from getting a jon boat to getting a pelican bass raider 10E.. my question is do y’all think I should buy new or used? I have been checking Craigslist but have only seen one on there. Maybe it’s not a good time for be looking for them?
I would recommend you buy a used one if you can find one. I finally found a used one for $300. After several years of watching craigslist, I found my on Facebook market place. Mine is a 2010 thats lived most it's life in the Florida sun. It still looks new. With the exception of a few scratches from use. It was completely unmodified and had been registered and titled. The title is the big thing if your buying a used one. They can be a pain to register if it's never been done. If your in a hurry you might want to buy a new one. I looked at a couple new ones. I didn't care for the Sun Dolphin to Me it did not seem as well made as the Pond Prowler 2. I never got a chance to look at a new Pelican Bass Raider. Only one I saw was the one I bought. It's got several things that I don't care for. The 2 biggest are easy to fix. The lack of a drain in the floor is ridiculous, and the Ribbed floor is horrible. Both are very easy to modify. This thread if chocked full of some very elaborate mods.
Dirt reply :
Just figured I’d post a pic of mine in its current state. It gets unloaded/loaded in the truck bed. The only things I take inside the truck are the trolling motor, battery and rods. I may put on a new rod securing system and leave them on for the drive, but it’s a quick load and unload when there’s a dock to use. I just pull it up or let it down while standing in the bed. The transducer arm snaps in and out of the mount there. Use the boat nearly every weekend, love it
BigBassHunter101 reply :
There is a Pelican Bass Raider 10e in my area for $500 that has four seats and is only 2 years old. Is this a good deal?
Dirt reply :
On 2/20/2019 at 2:14 AM, Brandonsheffield22 said:There is a Pelican Bass Raider 10e in my area for $500 that has four seats and is only 2 years old. Is this a good deal?
I wouldn’t say so. They’re about $600 brand new
BigBassHunter101 reply :
ok thanks for the help.. Will I have to buy seats after the purchase of the boat or will they come with the boat? I am a newbie:)
Dirt reply :
They come with 2 seats
Bearsfan67205 reply :
Did the 7 inch pedestal add on make the boat unstable ??
BigBassHunter101 reply :
What do y’all think about the pond prowler from bass pro?? Any different from the bass raider and why?
OCdockskipper reply :
After going through the pros & cons for months, I finally decided to add a deck to the front of my Pond Prowler. I had extra 3/4 Marine grade plywood & carpet left from when I made the original sub-floor a few years back. At the front of the deck, I added 3 lids; one allows access to all of the wiring, the middle has a few items I use every trip and the 3rd stores emergency items like spare electrical parts & TM prop.
I added a mount for a stand up butt seat and got a new Garmin depthfinder. I already had the Bigfoot and on-board charger, I just designed the deck around them. I took it out for a quick spin today and liked the stability. The higher center of gravity does change the balance points, but it is still steadier than a canoe.
The first picture is how the entire boat looks now. The second is a closeup of the deck, while the third is a look back to how the front used to look for comparison. It was a fun project.
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Chowderhead reply :
On 3/1/2019 at 2:23 PM, OCdockskipper said:After going through the pros & cons for months, I finally decided to add a deck to the front of my Pond Prowler. I had extra 3/4 Marine grade plywood & carpet left from when I made the original sub-floor a few years back. At the front of the deck, I added 3 lids; one allows access to all of the wiring, the middle has a few items I use every trip and the 3rd stores emergency items like spare electrical parts & TM prop.
I added a mount for a stand up butt seat and got a new Garmin depthfinder. I already had the Bigfoot and on-board charger, I just designed the deck around them. I took it out for a quick spin today and liked the stability. The higher center of gravity does change the balance points, but it is still steadier than a canoe.
The first picture is how the entire boat looks now. The second is a closeup of the deck, while the third is a look back to how the front used to look for comparison. It was a fun project.
Very nice — how is the added weight? I sometimes struggle lugging around the one I have with no modifications.
wasabi_VA reply :
Well done! Looks factory.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 3/1/2019 at 8:06 PM, Chowderhead said:Very nice — how is the added weight? I sometimes struggle lugging around the one I have with no modifications.
It does make it heavier, but I am in the fortunate position that the boat stays in the water all the time, covered. The few times I have pulled it out for yearly maintenance or to take it to another lake, I strip it down to next to nothing. Because I made everything modular (for example, the bottom is 3 pieces - the deck, the mid floor & the battery cover), it is just like putting a puzzle that you know back together.
If I were taking it in & out of the lake regularly and in areas that had access to ramps, I'd probably invest in a trailer. If I was taking it to hard to get to places with no trailer launching, I probably would keep it stripped down to limit the weight.
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Chowderhead reply :
On 3/1/2019 at 10:45 PM, OCdockskipper said:It does make it heavier, but I am in the fortunate position that the boat stays in the water all the time, covered. The few times I have pulled it out for yearly maintenance or to take it to another lake, I strip it down to next to nothing. Because I made everything modular (for example, the bottom is 3 pieces - the deck, the mid floor & the battery cover), it is just like putting a puzzle that you know back together.
If I were taking it in & out of the lake regularly and in areas that had access to ramps, I'd probably invest in a trailer. If I was taking it to hard to get to places with no trailer launching, I probably would keep it stripped down to limit the weight.
Thanks for the explanation - very nice setup you have there.
TotalNoob reply :
On 3/1/2019 at 2:23 PM, OCdockskipper said:After going through the pros & cons for months, I finally decided to add a deck to the front of my Pond Prowler. I had extra 3/4 Marine grade plywood & carpet left from when I made the original sub-floor a few years back. At the front of the deck, I added 3 lids; one allows access to all of the wiring, the middle has a few items I use every trip and the 3rd stores emergency items like spare electrical parts & TM prop.
I added a mount for a stand up butt seat and got a new Garmin depthfinder. I already had the Bigfoot and on-board charger, I just designed the deck around them. I took it out for a quick spin today and liked the stability. The higher center of gravity does change the balance points, but it is still steadier than a canoe.
The first picture is how the entire boat looks now. The second is a closeup of the deck, while the third is a look back to how the front used to look for comparison. It was a fun project.
That's a terrific looking setup! ????
What is the height on the butt seat pedestal? Was this something you already had or something you recently purchased for the deck project?
I'm seriously contemplating doing some kind of seat in the front of my PP2. The ability to simply "swivel around" 360° without having to lift my legs over the seat bracket every time would be nothing short of amazing. Walmart sells some pedestal mount hardware, I think I'd be looking to mount it to a couple pieces of stacked 3/4" plywood at the front of the boat (no deck) ... but I'm not 100% on this yet. Definitely need the ability to move about from the bow to the stern as needed without the seat brackets always being in the way.
Looking at your PP1 I feel like it's setup better than the PP2. The big thing I'm noticing now is that the PP1 has the metal or tin brackets over the plastic on both the transom and bow mount areas for the trolling motor. On my PP2 only the transom has the metal bracket - the bow is just naked plastic for some reason. This really makes zero sense to me as the intended design of these boats is to bow-mount the trolling motor.
The other obvious difference is that the PP2 has more raises areas on the sides where I lay my rods down. The flatter design on the PP1 would definitely be preferable.
Edit: Also was curious, you mentioned one of the compartments on your deck stores emergency items like spare electrical parts. What spare electrical parts are you keeping on hand in there out on the water?
OCdockskipper reply :
On 3/5/2019 at 2:52 AM, TotalNoob said:
That's a terrific looking setup! ????
What is the height on the butt seat pedestal? Was this something you already had or something you recently purchased for the deck project?...
...Definitely need the ability to move about from the bow to the stern as needed without the seat brackets always being in the way...
The big thing I'm noticing now is that the PP1 has the metal or tin brackets over the plastic on both the transom and bow mount areas for the trolling motor...
The other obvious difference is that the PP2 has more raises areas on the sides where I lay my rods down. The flatter design on the PP1 would definitely be preferable.
Edit: Also was curious, you mentioned one of the compartments on your deck stores emergency items like spare electrical parts. What spare electrical parts are you keeping on hand in there out on the water?
Thanks, I am happy with the way it turned out.
I bought the BPS power pedestal during the Spring Classic, it normally is $79 and was on sale for $59. It adjusts between 22" to 29", the butt seat adds about 3 inches in height. I'm 5'11" and I have it at about 25" up. I think if it was a regular seat, 22" might be too high (they make a 16" - 22" model as well).
It easier to move about without the seat brackets, but on my first trip out, I found that I would hold the butt seat & pedestal as I walked around it. The raised deck definitely changes the center of gravity, especially if you put all your weight on one side. That might be less of an issue with the PP2, for I noticed they ride higher in the water than the PP1.
There are a pair of PP2's on my lake & I noticed both have kept their TM on the transom. I didn't realize the lack of tin for the bow, I would thing that maybe a couple of pieces of flashing would replicate it. If I was forced to put the TM on the stern, I would drive the boat backwards all the time.
I did notice the raised areas of the PP2. It is almost like they aren't aiming the boat at bass anglers carrying 4 - 8 rods, but just fisherman with a rod or two. I'm sure there is some kind of modification that could create a deck like surface for the rods.
In addition to a spare TM prop, I carry a spare Bigfoot, a spare adapter that plugs into the front receptacle, a spare fuse for back in the battery area, wire crimps & tool, electrical tape & wire nuts. They don't take up much space (now that I have storage) and are handy to have just in case.
Hudspace reply :
Hi everyone. First post, and i’m a little embarrassed. I just bought a new Bass Raider 10e, and feel like I got a pretty good deal on it. $420 at Academy after price matching one on display at Dicks.
That said, I got it loaded up on the trailer and discovered a hole where the black plastic seal joining the upper and lower halves has worn. Hence the embarrassment; I can’t believe I didn’t catch this before I agreed to buy it. Anyway I pointed it out to an employee of the store but in the end I decided to bring it home because it’s the only one they had and I’ve been waiting a while. Thought I could repair it.
Thinking about it on the ride home...i’m not sure what to do. If I try to repair it, whatever warranty is on it will be voided. I could try to exercise the warranty if there is one, though I’m not sure how to do it; the folks at Academy didn’t seem to know much about that. I could just take it back and hopefully do an exchange when they get another one in. Or I can attempt a repair.
After reading this whole thread, it’s clear that there are some really smart people on this forum. Hoping some of them will chime in...
LonnieP reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 6:50 AM, Hudspace said:Hi everyone. First post, and i’m a little embarrassed. I just bought a new Bass Raider 10e, and feel like I got a pretty good deal on it. $420 at Academy after price matching one on display at Dicks.
That said, I got it loaded up on the trailer and discovered a hole where the black plastic seal joining the upper and lower halves has worn. Hence the embarrassment; I can’t believe I didn’t catch this before I agreed to buy it. Anyway I pointed it out to an employee of the store but in the end I decided to bring it home because it’s the only one they had and I’ve been waiting a while. Thought I could repair it.
Thinking about it on the ride home...i’m not sure what to do. If I try to repair it, whatever warranty is on it will be voided. I could try to exercise the warranty if there is one, though I’m not sure how to do it; the folks at Academy didn’t seem to know much about that. I could just take it back and hopefully do an exchange when they get another one in. Or I can attempt a repair.
After reading this whole thread, it’s clear that there are some really smart people on this forum. Hoping some of them will chime in...
I’d return it. I’m sure they can order you another one.
Muddyoldgoat reply :
Awesome thread with lots of great info. I recently picked up a 10E and have building it out.
I added a floor but went a slightly different route than anything I’ve seen posted. Lowe’s carries 3/8” 4x8 PVC sheets. I picked up a sheet for roughly $70 and used that as the base for my floor. I like that it’s 100% waterproof. I think it’s slightly lighter than same thickness treated plywood. The PVC does flex a little more than plywood but once laid flat in the boat, it is firm. I glued on some marine carpet and it looks great.
TotalNoob reply :
I've completed what I hope is the final version of the dolly I'll need to get my Pond Prowler II down to the shore and back as easily as possible. It feels really stable and can fit upside down inside the boat (in the bed of my truck) as I'm traveling. I'll probably make a few minor adjustments to it including adding some carpet at all potential contact points. Some pics below.
I have a 55lb Traxxis for the bow in addition to a 45lb Endura Max at the transom. Two batteries. Below is a pic from a quick test run of the Traxxis the other day.
I added a rudder to the transom trolling motor and the control up front feels pretty good. I'm going the double TM/double battery route because I'm fishing a ~4000 acre reservoir known for random strong winds. Being cautious, not veering too far, staying close to the shoreline, checking the forecast, always wearing a PFD, and having backup propulsion are important to me ????
There are more things I want to do to this but by far the most important thing to get done next is getting both batteries to the stern and I'm hoping some minds sharper and more experienced than mine can help me out a little here.
I need to move the minn kota Power Center to the stern of the boat. As you can see in that pic it's sitting up front there with the 5 ft leads from the 55lb traxxis attached. That won't work going forward, I was just testing the traxxis there - I need to have that space clear. I need to extend the leads on the Traxxis by possibly up to 10 ft though I think something like 7 to 8 ft will be plenty.
Minn Kota shows in their manual to use 6 gauge wire for extensions between 5 and 10 ft on the 55lb thrust. The leads coming out of the TM are 10 gauge so I need to connect 10 gauge to 6 gauge for up to a 10 ft extension.
I purchased the following to extend the cables:
-Dual Rated Splicer/Reducer (rated for #14 to #2 wire)
-Ox-Guard, anti-oxident compound
-Heavy Wall Heat Shrink Tube
-Rubber Splicing Tape
-15ft each of White and Red "6 AWG type MTW or THWN-2 or THHN or gasoline/oil resistant or AWM 600 volts .. 90(D)C.."
I'm thinking this should be pretty straight forward but I wanted to check with you guys here and see what you think/make sure I'm not missing or forgetting anything or that another better option exists to extend the trolling motor leads. Still need to pick up 6 AWG terminal connectors to connect to the Minn Kota Trolling Center (which has a 60 amp breaker).
LonnieP reply :
TotalNoob, Why not just put both batteries in the back of the boat and plug your front trolling motor to the plug in the front of the boat?
TotalNoob reply :
On 3/8/2019 at 10:02 AM, LonnieP said:TotalNoob, Why not just put both batteries in the back of the boat and plug your front trolling motor to the plug in the front of the boat?
I'd really like to. The prewiring is only 10 gauge. Per the minn kota chart above I need 6 gauge wire for the 55lb thrust traxxis.
It makes sense, as I understand there would be resistance or power loss and possibly hot wires if I use just 10 gauge wiring to run the 55lb TM.
I'm hoping the items I purchased are appropriate for creating a mechanical connection between the two different sized wires, and if not, any info on alternate items would be greatly appreciated.
LonnieP reply :
On 3/8/2019 at 11:35 AM, TotalNoob said:I'd really like to. The prewiring is only 10 gauge. Per the minn kota chart above I need 6 gauge wire for the 55lb thrust traxxis.
It makes sense, as I understand there would be resistance or power loss and possibly hot wires if I use just 10 gauge wiring to run the 55lb TM.
I'm hoping the items I purchased are appropriate for creating a mechanical connection between the two different sized wires, and if not, any info on alternate items would be greatly appreciated.
I’ve been using the prewiring with my 55 lb Minn Kota for over a year now with no ill effects.
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 6:50 AM, Hudspace said:Hi everyone. First post, and i’m a little embarrassed. I just bought a new Bass Raider 10e, and feel like I got a pretty good deal on it. $420 at Academy after price matching one on display at Dicks.
That said, I got it loaded up on the trailer and discovered a hole where the black plastic seal joining the upper and lower halves has worn. Hence the embarrassment; I can’t believe I didn’t catch this before I agreed to buy it. Anyway I pointed it out to an employee of the store but in the end I decided to bring it home because it’s the only one they had and I’ve been waiting a while. Thought I could repair it.
Thinking about it on the ride home...i’m not sure what to do. If I try to repair it, whatever warranty is on it will be voided. I could try to exercise the warranty if there is one, though I’m not sure how to do it; the folks at Academy didn’t seem to know much about that. I could just take it back and hopefully do an exchange when they get another one in. Or I can attempt a repair.
After reading this whole thread, it’s clear that there are some really smart people on this forum. Hoping some of them will chime in...
After seeing your gash in the rub rail, I felt compelled to try and help. I contacted Pelican, and asked how you could get the rub rail replaced, and here is their response...
"Good day,
Thank you for your interest in the Pelican International products. Please confirm the serial number ZEP, 5#s, a letter and 3#s located towards the back, outside, right hand side along with some photos so we may help with your request. We wold require his name, telephone number and shipping address (not a P.O. Box).
Thank you,
Linda Chartrand, Customer Experience Agent
Pelican International Inc."
I would contact them and see what they can do for you.
TotalNoob reply :
On 3/8/2019 at 1:00 PM, LonnieP said:I’ve been using the prewiring with my 55 lb Minn Kota for over a year now with no ill effects.
Hmmm, you said you have the PP1 right? I wonder if the prewiring is different in it.
I checked the wiring in my PP2 and it's 10 gauge.
Per the manual from minn kota for the 55lb thrust traxxis (below), 6 AWG would be the correct wiring size for an extension of 5-10 ft (see below). I have $335 into that brand new Traxxis and I expect it to perform correctly so I feel compelled to follow the guidelines as closely as possible.
If the prewiring were 8 gauge or the trolling motor was 45lb thrust (or lower) I might feel differently. It seems like running the 55lb thrust through the 10 ft of 10 gauge prewiring is pushing it a little too much.
Several pages back in this thread someone posted that they were using a 55lb traxxis at the bow and burned up their wiring. He also said he was a bigger guy ... I'm in quite the similar position here. Unfortunately nothing else came out of that post except someone stating that the extension wiring should have been thicker. Which brings me full circle to now.
Edit: I went back and found that older post I was referencing. It's the last post on pg 110 of this thread (here) from Fish 247 - response on the following page.
He was concerned he was pushing too much amperage through the 8 gauge prewiring on his Bass Raider 10E with his 55lb traxxis (which was confirmed in the response). I have the exact same motor and the prewiring in my Pond Prowler II is just 10 gauge and I, too, am a bigger guy.
LonnieP reply :
That looks like the same size wire that's in my boat. If it makes you feel better it won't hurt a thing to rewire it with 6 gauge. Maybe I've been lucky to not have any problems yet using the 10 gauge.
Hudspace reply :
On 3/8/2019 at 9:22 PM, Murphy S. Law said:After seeing your gash in the rub rail, I felt compelled to try and help. I contacted Pelican, and asked how you could get the rub rail replaced, and here is their response...
"Good day,
Thank you for your interest in the Pelican International products. Please confirm the serial number ZEP, 5#s, a letter and 3#s located towards the back, outside, right hand side along with some photos so we may help with your request. We wold require his name, telephone number and shipping address (not a P.O. Box).Thank you,
Linda Chartrand, Customer Experience AgentPelican International Inc."
I would contact them and see what they can do for you.
That was kind of you, thank you. I may do that.
I actually ended up returning the boat to Academy in order to exchange it for the other one they had. Would you believe it, that one had the exact same issue... not quite as bad though. This one doesn’t actually appear to be a hole in the hull...just in the black trim where the upper and lower halves meet. I still wasn’t keen on buying the boat with a defect and I was about to just ask for a refund, but then the manager offered to take another $100 off the purchase price. In the end I just couldn’t pass on that, pretty much a brand new boat with what I HOPE is just a cosmetic flaw, for $329 out the door.
Shard_Hunter reply :
On 3/9/2019 at 8:25 AM, Hudspace said:That was kind of you, thank you. I may do that.
I actually ended up returning the boat to Academy in order to exchange it for the other one they had. Would you believe it, that one had the exact same issue... not quite as bad though. This one doesn’t actually appear to be a hole in the hull...just in the black trim where the upper and lower halves meet. I still wasn’t keen on buying the boat with a defect and I was about to just ask for a refund, but then the manager offered to take another $100 off the purchase price. In the end I just couldn’t pass on that, pretty much a brand new boat with what I HOPE is just a cosmetic flaw, for $329 out the door.
did academy have a sale going on for it to be $429? all i can see online is $640 and i was going to gift my dad a bass raider since he is wanting a small boat to fish out of and he also does a ton of pond fishing so i figured it would be a good boat to get him
Hudspace reply :
On 3/9/2019 at 3:44 PM, Shard_Hunter said:did academy have a sale going on for it to be $429? all i can see online is $640 and i was going to gift my dad a bass raider since he is wanting a small boat to fish out of and he also does a ton of pond fishing so i figured it would be a good boat to get him
Shard_Hunter my local Dicks had one on sale for $419 and I got Academy to price-match it. That price wasn’t advertised on Dick’s website, so when the Academy store manager called Dick’s to verify the price, they said it was a discontinued item, hence the sale price.
Shard_Hunter reply :
On 3/10/2019 at 1:01 AM, Hudspace said:Shard_Hunter my local Dicks had one on sale for $419 and I got Academy to price-match it. That price wasn’t advertised on Dick’s website, so when the Academy store manager called Dick’s to verify the price, they said it was a discontinued item, hence the sale price.
ahh nice, sucks for me though, only sporting store withing 40 minutes for me is academy and dunhams
Hudspace reply :
On 3/10/2019 at 1:04 AM, Shard_Hunter said:ahh nice, sucks for me though, only sporting store withing 40 minutes for me is academy and dunhams
Maybe call around, if you can find one cheaper, Academy’s policy is that they will not only price-match, but they’ll take an additional 5% off.
But if it makes you feel better, I have a repair to do on this one before i’m comfortable putting it in the water. Hopefully you won’t have the same experience.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 3/9/2019 at 8:25 AM, Hudspace said:That was kind of you, thank you. I may do that.
I actually ended up returning the boat to Academy in order to exchange it for the other one they had. Would you believe it, that one had the exact same issue... not quite as bad though. This one doesn’t actually appear to be a hole in the hull...just in the black trim where the upper and lower halves meet. I still wasn’t keen on buying the boat with a defect and I was about to just ask for a refund, but then the manager offered to take another $100 off the purchase price. In the end I just couldn’t pass on that, pretty much a brand new boat with what I HOPE is just a cosmetic flaw, for $329 out the door.
Man you stole that boat!!! You paid 29 dollars more than I did for a used 2010 model! I wouldn't worry to much about that "hole". Looks to me like its just in the rub rail. It is covering the seam where the two halves are stapled together. To my knowledge there is no seal between them. However, I could be wrong about that. Plus it sounds like Pelican send you a new rub rail. To put your mind at ease, I'll give you an example. I drilled a scupper hole in the aft deck of my pelican. When I'm (270lbs) standing at the back with a group 29 battery the water comes just flush with the floor. So if you get that rub rail in the water you've got bigger problems. Congrats on a great bargain!!! You're really going to enjoy it. I know I love mine.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
Well gang I'm back to work again. This time home was worse than my last. I think Mother nature hates me. I had big plans to load up the Raider and hit Lake Juniper. Lots of flooded timber and giant Florida bass. Last spring the bite there was hot. I caught 3 fish over 8, 1 just under 10, really close to my pb and stumpload of 3 to 5's. Now don't get that twisted that wasn't one day. I fished there a bunch last year. I really enjoy fishing timber but my bass boat hates it. I can't wait to put the Raider to work out there. I did manage to fish around my pond a bit. I caught several but nothing more than 2 pounds. For that matter the first 4 I caught probably didn't make 2 pounds combined. But hey, time spent with the rod bent. No mods to the Raider this time home either. I'm still going to cut down the 7" seat riser to around 5" and see how that works out. I had planes to get a troll king, and still do. I had to buy a new TV instead, Mother nature decided to send a lightning bolt that fried the old one. I'm telling you she's upset with me for something. lol
Hudspace reply :
On 3/11/2019 at 1:58 AM, Hi-Powered Red Neck said:To put your mind at ease, I'll give you an example. I drilled a scupper hole in the aft deck of my pelican. When I'm (270lbs) standing at the back with a group 29 battery the water comes just flush with the floor. So if you get that rub rail in the water you've got bigger problems. Congrats on a great bargain!!! You're really going to enjoy it. I know I love mine.
That does set my mind at ease just a bit, thanks!
Shard_Hunter reply :
On 3/10/2019 at 1:20 AM, Hudspace said:Maybe call around, if you can find one cheaper, Academy’s policy is that they will not only price-match, but they’ll take an additional 5% off.
But if it makes you feel better, I have a repair to do on this one before i’m comfortable putting it in the water. Hopefully you won’t have the same experience.
just tried calling 6 dicks around me and not a single one has one in stock, such a bummer
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 3/8/2019 at 11:35 AM, TotalNoob said:I'd really like to. The prewiring is only 10 gauge. Per the minn kota chart above I need 6 gauge wire for the 55lb thrust traxxis.
It makes sense, as I understand there would be resistance or power loss and possibly hot wires if I use just 10 gauge wiring to run the 55lb TM.
I'm hoping the items I purchased are appropriate for creating a mechanical connection between the two different sized wires, and if not, any info on alternate items would be greatly appreciated.
I contemplated getting a 55lb. TM, and for the wiring reason to run the TM in the front, I opted for the 45lb. instead. I did check my raider last night, and it has 8ga wire. If I went with the 55lb., I would have ran 6ga.
On 3/9/2019 at 8:25 AM, Hudspace said:In the end I just couldn’t pass on that, pretty much a brand new boat with what I HOPE is just a cosmetic flaw, for $329 out the door.
Nice steal. I get the impression that Pelican may still replace your rub rail if you were still concerned. I have ocd, so little things tend to bug me. But that's just me.????
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 3/8/2019 at 11:35 AM, TotalNoob said:I'd really like to. The prewiring is only 10 gauge. Per the minn kota chart above I need 6 gauge wire for the 55lb thrust traxxis.
Noob Lots of us are running a 55lb TM on the factory wiring. It really won't become an issue. But its obviously a concern to you. You can easily change out that wiring. It's not attatched on the inside of the hull. Simply remove the rubber grommet around the wiring going into the stern. Be careful not to destroy it it should pry out fairly easily. Cut off the rings and the inline fuse. Pull the grommet off and be sure to leave plenty of wire. Tape about 6" of the new wiring to old stuff. Pull the screws holding the plug in the bow, then simply pull the new wires thru with the old ones. That might require someone to help feed it into the hole. Once it's in, you can use the original grommet on the new wire. It's going to be a tight fit but, it will go. If you decide to go this far I suggest buying a new TM plug as well. I got mine at Walmart it's made by Attwell. It came with the socket and plug. It fits in place of the old socket without any modification. In my opinion it's better made than the original and, it costs less than the plug you'll need to use it. On a Pelican at least. Not 100% on the Pond Prowler.
Fish_Maryland reply :
Bought myself a bass raider 10e. Had to drive 5 hours from MD to NC since no one delivers it and this was the closest store to me. I've went ahead and bought all my toys to go on it. Fish finder, batteries, troller etc.... I can t wait to get out there. Still pretty cold here in Maryland but I have a target date of April 1st for my maiden voyage. Excited to be apart of the bass raider brotherhood!!!
Shard_Hunter reply :
couldnt find any deals so me and my dad decided to go ahead and buy a bass raider from academy. had to pay full price but we know its brand new and has a warranty and i also picked up a 30lb thrust to keep cost down, plan is to find a 3 or 3.5hp outboard to put on it eventually so going 40/55lb seemed unnecessary. also bought a life jacket for me for $10 on clearance.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 3/13/2019 at 10:13 PM, Fish_Maryland said:Excited to be apart of the bass raider brotherhood!!!
Congrats on your new Bass Raider. Let the games begin, and Welcome to the family, Brother.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 3/13/2019 at 11:10 PM, Shard_Hunter said:me and my dad decided to go ahead and buy a bass raider from academy. had to pay full price but we know its brand new and has a warranty and i also picked up a 30lb thrust to keep cost down
Congrats one your new Raider. It will really open up some unique fishing experiences for you. That 30lb thrust TM will do fine in ponds and small lakes. These boats don't require much thrust to move them around. I'm running a 36lb that works great. The 55lb TM's just make traveling distance go faster. When I'm fishing my motor is normally set on 1 or 2. I use a Big Foot switch to cut the power on and off. It's not a necessity but it helps out. The first mod I recommend is to the motor mount plate. The metal plate doesn't offer the TM mount screws much to bite on. This tends to let the motor slip and possibly come off. I used a scrap piece of 3/8" ply wood. I simply cut it to size removed the two mounting screws and use them to mount the wood. I put it on the inside so the TM mounting bolts could get a good bite. Oh I almost forgot I bought 1/2" longer SS screws the factory ones where to short to mount the plywood. Another guy used skateboard grid tape. Lots of really good info on this thread. I've got some pic's of my mods on here. I'm more of the keep it simple guy, others go all out. Great examples of both on here. Enjoy your new Raider and welcome to the family.
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 3/13/2019 at 10:13 PM, Fish_Maryland said:Bought myself a bass raider 10e. Had to drive 5 hours from MD to NC since no one delivers it and this was the closest store to me. I've went ahead and bought all my toys to go on it. Fish finder, batteries, troller etc.... I can t wait to get out there. Still pretty cold here in Maryland but I have a target date of April 1st for my maiden voyage. Excited to be apart of the bass raider brotherhood!!!
Man... 5 hours? Is that one way?! Nevertheless, that is still a hop skip and jump! Congrats! You earned it.
On 3/13/2019 at 11:10 PM, Shard_Hunter said:couldnt find any deals so me and my dad decided to go ahead and buy a bass raider from academy. had to pay full price but we know its brand new and has a warranty and i also picked up a 30lb thrust to keep cost down, plan is to find a 3 or 3.5hp outboard to put on it eventually so going 40/55lb seemed unnecessary. also bought a life jacket for me for $10 on clearance.
You will enjoy it!
Murphy S. Law reply :
I finally finished re-doing my free harbor freight trailer and was able to take it out for the first time last Friday. What a world of difference unloading and loading!!! A lot easier on my back, and a lot more fishing able to be done by the time saved.
The first time I took my raider out, I had my rudder sitting too high in the back, and it really wasn't helping the fish tailing much at all. I re-did the shaft so I could lower it to the proper depth, and I was in a state of disbelief how steady this made it.
I was in the river, with 10-12 mph winds at times, lots of hull thumping waves, and it was steady. Of course I got pushed downstream, but with a proper touch of trolling motor speed and direction, she was a dream. I still haven't hooked up my big foot switch yet, and I will post some pics of the trailer soon. I think she's a keeper!
Shard_Hunter reply :
On 3/19/2019 at 2:54 AM, Murphy S. Law said:You will enjoy it!
We tried out the boat yesterday after the wind died down some and had a blast even though we didnt catch anything.
On 3/14/2019 at 8:47 PM, Hi-Powered Red Neck said:Congrats one your new Raider. It will really open up some unique fishing experiences for you. That 30lb thrust TM will do fine in ponds and small lakes. These boats don't require much thrust to move them around. I'm running a 36lb that works great. The 55lb TM's just make traveling distance go faster. When I'm fishing my motor is normally set on 1 or 2. I use a Big Foot switch to cut the power on and off. It's not a necessity but it helps out. The first mod I recommend is to the motor mount plate. The metal plate doesn't offer the TM mount screws much to bite on. This tends to let the motor slip and possibly come off. I used a scrap piece of 3/8" ply wood. I simply cut it to size removed the two mounting screws and use them to mount the wood. I put it on the inside so the TM mounting bolts could get a good bite. Oh I almost forgot I bought 1/2" longer SS screws the factory ones where to short to mount the plywood. Another guy used skateboard grid tape. Lots of really good info on this thread. I've got some pic's of my mods on here. I'm more of the keep it simple guy, others go all out. Great examples of both on here. Enjoy your new Raider and welcome to the family.
The 30lb thrust done a lot better than what we figured it would, its plenty enough for the fishing we do. We didnt have any grip tape and couldnt find any at walmart so we just put some gorilla tape on the rear transom mount and it worked perfectly and didnt slip any, it'll work for now until we can get some grip tape. The boat was also a lot more stable and handled all of our gear just fine. Short list so far is to make a simple dolly to take it down the boat ramp instead of carrying it by hand and trying to come up with some sort of rod holders.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 3/19/2019 at 3:22 AM, Shard_Hunter said:Short list so far is to make a simple dolly to take it down the boat ramp instead of carrying it by hand and trying to come up with some sort of rod holders.
I made a simple dolly using a scrap piece of 5/4 decking. I bought 2 fixed caster wheels from Harbor Freight. I cut the board about 6" wider than the boat, then used stove bolts to mount the casters and added an eye bolt around 1 1/2" each end. I use a ratchet strap to secure it to the boat. You can play with it's placement to get a good balance point. My only complaint with mine is, I should have used a wider board like a 2X8 or 10. It can be a little difficult to get it to stand while strapping it up. My plan for rod holders is simply using a couple velcro straps like rod savers and screwing them to the gunnels. I think one per side would do the trick. Try mounting your TM to the front of the boat. Just make sure you set it deep enough that the prop doesn't hit the hull. Believe it or not your TM will pull the boat much better than it pushes it.
Dirt reply :
On 3/11/2019 at 10:37 PM, Shard_Hunter said:just tried calling 6 dicks around me and not a single one has one in stock, such a bummer
I was able to order mine thru dicks and they price matched with academy
Has anyone experimented with paddling their raider? I’m thinking about joining a local bass tournament group that uses kayaks and float tubes etc., no trolling motors allowed. I’ve tried both a kayak paddle and canoe paddle, just seeing if anyone maybe has golden knowledge on it.
Ratherbfishing reply :
On 3/21/2019 at 4:04 AM, Dirt said:I was able to order mine thru dicks and they price matched with academy
Has anyone experimented with paddling their raider? I’m thinking about joining a local bass tournament group that uses kayaks and float tubes etc., no trolling motors allowed. I’ve tried both a kayak paddle and canoe paddle, just seeing if anyone maybe has golden knowledge on it.
I paddle mine all the time-but just to supplement the trolling motor (when I'm in a hurry to get off the lake before the park gates close). But to rely JUST on paddles? It'll get you someplace but certainly not in a hurry.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 3/21/2019 at 4:04 AM, Dirt said:Has anyone experimented with paddling their raider? I’m thinking about joining a local bass tournament group that uses kayaks and float tubes etc., no trolling motors allowed. I’ve tried both a kayak paddle and canoe paddle, just seeing if anyone maybe has golden knowledge on it.
Speaking for myself, I would not even consider trying to fish my Raider with just a paddle. Let alone trying to compete in a tournament against a bunch of guys in kayaks that are designed to be paddled. But, lets just say for the sake of argument that I would. My first instinct would be to trade off my Bass raider to a guy that was tired of paddling a kayak. That not being a option my second move would be, obtaining a stake out pole, and the longest kayak paddle I could get my hands on. Remembering these boats are hard enough to control with a trolling motor. I would consider myself at a distinct disadvantage against the more agile kayak. Now with a trolling motor on the Raider, I'll out fish those kayak guys with a snoopy pole and a beetle spin. Simple because I'll spend 10% of the time controlling my boat, that's 90% more time with a line in the water. That time could be cut down even further with a foot control TM. Could it be done? Yes if you're young and in good shape, absolutely. The real question is, why? Find a club that allows TM's or start one that does. There are a bunch of guy's out there with Jon Boats and Bass Raider style boats that want to compete. Keep the entry fees low and advertise it a little bit and you'll have a club in no time. Thats just my opinion on the subject. I'm not trying to bash the kayak guys or anyone else for that matter. I bought a Bass Raider to have the comforts of a Bass boat in a small easy to manage package that can be loaded and gone on a minutes notice.
Dirt reply :
Unfortunately I can’t find any electric only tourneys around here, and too lazy to organize my own. The raider is a pain with paddles only, but I figure I’ll be as slow as the float tube guys with only fins on their feet. We’ll see, I might not even try
LionHeart reply :
I always bring a paddle for just in case. Having said that, if I didn't have a trolling motor, I wouldn't take it out. Paddling that thing around would get old real fast
Dead Body Baits reply :
On 2/13/2019 at 9:22 PM, Murphy S. Law said:Total Noob. Here is a youtube vid that I recently found on the troll king. He stands while using it also.
I guess the reason my text was large and bold, is that I copied the title of the youtube vid and pasted here. That must have locked me in that font. Anyway...????
I just got this and it works great! I had the boat out last Wednesday all day and I have to say it was better having both hands on the rod and not on the trolling motor. I will post photos later along with all the mods I've made to my bass raider.
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 3/27/2019 at 9:09 AM, Dead Body Baits said:I just got this and it works great! I had the boat out last Wednesday all day and I have to say it was better having both hands on the rod and not on the trolling motor. I will post photos later along with all the mods I've made to my bass raider.
Photos would be nice. Do you do videos too?
HoosierFisher reply :
Thoughts on the Bass Raider vs Sundolphin Sportsman? Academy has the Bass Raider and I saw the Sportsman at Walmart today. The Sportsman was 8 foot and the Bass Raider is 10 foot (the ones in stock anyway). I'm looking at possibly getting one of these instead of a kayak. The price of fishing kayaks is kind of insane IMO when you can get one of these and a trolling motor for around the same price. I have a short bed Tacoma so I was leaning more towards the 8 foot version of either depending on what's available locally. I would be using it in ponds and old stripper pit lakes.
Dan Bures reply :
Proud new owner of a Bass Raider 10E. Currently outfitted with MinnKota 55 and the Striker 4 fish finder. I saw a question posed about transducer mounting on these boats. My solution was to order a transducer pole mount from
Fish Finder Mounts.com. Solidly constructed from aluminum, this mount is designed like a trolling motor. Clamps to the front transom and is capable of rotating 360, Not a cheap option, ($150 US) but should last the lifetime of the boat. Can be easily detached for use on a friends boat or a rental boat. Highly recommend you give them a call. Matt is very knowledgeable about all things transducer ( and will not hesitate to tell you so....lol) and will work with you to make sure you are fixed up right the first time.
On 7/29/2010 at 11:24 AM, Red said:I will post pics tomorrow if I remember, forgot tonight. My boat hasn't taken on a drop of water yet in the hull. I have been meaning to caulk around everything that I screwed on, but haven't got around to it yet. I only have screwed into the top "rail" section, nothing down in the floor area or anything like that. I will shoot some pictures tomorrow.
3M marine adhesive 3200 is your best bet for sealing anything on these boats. Read about it a 3m web site, but dont get the 5200...problems with adhesion to plastic is the rumor.
LionHeart reply :
On 3/28/2019 at 6:42 AM, HoosierFisher said:Thoughts on the Bass Raider vs Sundolphin Sportsman? Academy has the Bass Raider and I saw the Sportsman at Walmart today. The Sportsman was 8 foot and the Bass Raider is 10 foot (the ones in stock anyway). I'm looking at possibly getting one of these instead of a kayak. The price of fishing kayaks is kind of insane IMO when you can get one of these and a trolling motor for around the same price. I have a short bed Tacoma so I was leaning more towards the 8 foot version of either depending on what's available locally. I would be using it in ponds and old stripper pit lakes.
I own an 8ft. Sun Dolphin and for me it is perfect. It weighs 100 lbs, so if you plan to just throw it in the back of a truck, the difference in size and weight from a 10e is considerable. The whole reason I bought one of these tiny boats was to be able to fish solo and launch nearly anywhere. Doing this with a 10e would be exhausting, considering I use a homemade 2 wheeler alot to hike the boat through trails to reach the water.
The floor space on an 8 foot is plenty if you fish alone, and totally doable if you want to bring a friend. Crowded, but doable. I also like the raised sides on the Dolphin. I usually take 4-5 rods with me and I never worry about them rolling overboard.
I have not fished out of a 10e but they look awesome, just too big and heavy if you don't plan to use a trailer. I wanted something that absolutely didn't need a trailer so to me the Dolphin was an easy choice.
Dan Bures reply :
On 6/6/2011 at 11:07 AM, cBooms@SML said:found out something new with the pelicans. they dont do too well with large motors. the area around the metal transom plate began to bend when i put the motor at about half throttle and it was a merc 3.3hp. i went back to the dock and took everything but a life jacket out and tried it again and it was much better. i guess you cant have anything weighing down the front. has a decent size wake to it too when you get it goin. i should probably still do more tests with the motor and stuff before i come to a final consensus about whether or not gas outboards are good for these boats.
Don't know how much the Merc weighs.....but Honda has a 2.5 @ 48lbs.
HoosierFisher reply :
On 3/28/2019 at 6:44 PM, LionHeart said:I own an 8ft. Sun Dolphin and for me it is perfect. It weighs 100 lbs, so if you plan to just throw it in the back of a truck, the difference in size and weight from a 10e is considerable. The whole reason I bought one of these tiny boats was to be able to fish solo and launch nearly anywhere. Doing this with a 10e would be exhausting, considering I use a homemade 2 wheeler alot to hike the boat through trails to reach the water.
The floor space on an 8 foot is plenty if you fish alone, and totally doable if you want to bring a friend. Crowded, but doable. I also like the raised sides on the Dolphin. I usually take 4-5 rods with me and I never worry about them rolling overboard.
I have not fished out of a 10e but they look awesome, just too big and heavy if you don't plan to use a trailer. I wanted something that absolutely didn't need a trailer so to me the Dolphin was an easy choice.
Awesome. Yeah the 10E seemed like it would be a bear to launch by myself. Sounds like the 8 foot Sundolphin would be enough for me and potentially my wife or buddy.
Bassmobile reply :
Hello all. First off I would like to say thank you to all, I spent many hours reading thru your posts digging for information on small bass boats etc.... I decided to go with the Sun Dolphin 10.2 and could not be happier. My wife and I are avid Bass fishermen and this boat has been great for the two of us. I mainly go out by myself during the week, and then we both go on the weekends. This winter, I decided to put a casting deck on our boat so that when I go out I can use the deck, and then when we go together I can take the deck off, put the chair back on the front pedestal and its back to a two seat boat.
As I said before, it has been great reading thru all the posts and getting ideas from everyone, but to be honest in the beginning it was a little overwhelming as there are so many options. So, to try to help out anyone who might be in the market for buying one of these type of boats, I decided to put a little information web site together on how our boat is set up in the hopes of helping people out an or sparking ideas of their own. I have no attachment or affiliation to product on the site, I just simply am trying to help and spark ideas. These boats, not just the Sun Dolphins are great from what I have read on the forum. People love them, I know we love ours! The web site is www.bassmobile.info It is a work in process, so it will get completed soon, but the main point of interest are completed, motor, battery, deck, etc.... are done. If you have any questions at all please do not hesitate to ask, and again thanks to all of you for all the great information in this forum!
MakeUltraLightGreatAgain reply :
What's up boys. I was in the market for the Bass Raider 10e in Maryland but they're hard to get. Dicks has the Sun Dolphin Sportsman 10 and I was wondering if anyone here can comment on the comparison between the 2 (if any?)
I like #1 how it's only $600 (compared to $800 new) and how it's got a raised lip so I can put a deck across the entire width of it...
Thoughts?
Bassmobile reply :
Hi MakeUltraLight.
I don't have any thoughts on the Sportsman 10 as I have never owned one. However
here is something to think about. I was looking thru my Cabelas Marine catalog for this
year and I saw that they have the Sun Dolphin American 12 Jon Boat. What made me think of you when I saw it, was that the price is $ 669.99 dollars. For just a little bit more money, and realize I don't know your situation as far as transportation for the boat, but to me.... you would get a much bigger boat, and you would be able to put a casting deck on the front etc... like you were wanting to do with the Sportsman 10 all in the same ball park price wise as the Sportsman 10. Just thought I would pass that along. Another option you could look at.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
Whats the good news gang. I finally got to do a little fishing this time home. Caught a couple nice size bass sight fishing in my home pond. I've got a HAWG bedded right off my dock. Caught her last year right after she laid her eggs. She was 9.5 with no belly. This years she's a bit bigger. Spent several hours trying to get her to eat, threw everything I own at her. She's too well trained. I took the Raider on a little road trip. Fished Lake Juniper in Defuniak Springs. I'd love to say I torn'em up. That would be a lie, lol. I didn't even manage to get a bite. Fished for a few hours till the wind picked up. Lake Juniper is mostly flooded timber, first time I've had the raider in the rough stuff. I did pretty good. It's so light it will get way up on the timber. Most of the trees are rotted off to the water level. I never had a problem getting hung up even with my little 32lb Minn Kotta. My transducer bracket got a work out as well. It's a Scottie mount that I bolted to the rear motor mount plate so it's almost centerline of the boat. It simply kicked up every time I ran over a stump. I do have to push it back down, I'd say easy fix but it only happened a few times. I can push it back down with the rod butt while never having to leave my seat. I guess I've rambled on long enough. Later
KDW96 reply :
Well,i finally made a rudder for my 1980 lil boat. It works very well too. Its made of stainless steel(no rust),the handle is from a broke snow shovel.
MakeUltraLightGreatAgain reply :
On 4/6/2019 at 12:05 AM, Bassmobile said:Hi MakeUltraLight.
I don't have any thoughts on the Sportsman 10 as I have never owned one. However
here is something to think about. I was looking thru my Cabelas Marine catalog for this
year and I saw that they have the Sun Dolphin American 12 Jon Boat. What made me think of you when I saw it, was that the price is $ 669.99 dollars. For just a little bit more money, and realize I don't know your situation as far as transportation for the boat, but to me.... you would get a much bigger boat, and you would be able to put a casting deck on the front etc... like you were wanting to do with the Sportsman 10 all in the same ball park price wise as the Sportsman 10. Just thought I would pass that along. Another option you could look at.
Thanks for the reply! My situation currently is that I have a bed that goes about 7' with the hatch down so 10' is the max I should go with to be practical. I don't have room for a trailer as I'm an apt guy. I live in MD and these types of boats are hard to find. The Pond Prowler II at bass pro is 799, West Marine has the Sportsman 10 (essentially identical from what I can tell) for 600 shipped to their store so I went with that Appreciate the help!
MakeUltraLightGreatAgain reply :
On 1/23/2018 at 9:11 AM, LonnieP said:Not a Bass Raider but here is my Pond Prowler
Is that basically just a square 1/2" carpeted ply? Do you happen to have the dimensions you cut?
LonnieP reply :
On 4/9/2019 at 10:09 AM, MakeUltraLightGreatAgain said:Is that basically just a square 1/2" carpeted ply? Do you happen to have the dimensions you cut?
Yes it’s carpeted 1/2” plywood. Don’t have the dimensions with me. I had to trace the front and cut it because it gets narrower at the bow.
cwalls reply :
Hey guys, I just had one of my handles snap on my older bass raider...does anyone have ideas as to where to get new handles? I know you can order them off of pelican's website, but didn't know if there were any other options out there.
J Francho reply :
If you search for "kayak handles" you'll find dozens of options.
Seth_M reply :
Does anyone know where to get a trailer for these?
MN Fisher reply :
On 4/12/2019 at 7:15 AM, Seth_M said:Does anyone know where to get a trailer for these?
Most people get a regular 4'x8' trailer from places like Harbor Freight and use that with a few mods.
dunaway721 reply :
hey guys anyone interested in an online tournament? a guy on "pelican bass raider & bass hunter style boats", facebook page has set one up on tourneyx. it is listed on tourneyx as, nothin' but toads, you can fish from pelican style boats, kayaks, jon boats or from the bank. everyone is welcome
mrstangblb reply :
Just bought my Sportsman 8' Friday locally, and I have to admit - this is a pretty doggone fun little boat. I have had a couple of good kayaks over the last 3 years (started with a Field and Stream Eagle Talon and upgraded to a Vibe Sea Ghost 110), but my butt would fall asleep and my back would hurt in both of them after only about an hour on the water. Not ideal for a full day of fishing, to say the least.
This Sportsman is GREAT for what I want. Fits right in the back of my '07 Tundra Crewmax with no problem at all and is fairly easy for me to deal with, BUT I have a question for you guys.
I'm often by myself fishing, and kayaks are easy to throw around and to put carts under. I have a C-Tug cart that I could use with a little modification with the Sportsman, but for the 3 or 4 feet that I have to drag it out of the water to the truck, I need to find what's best to put on the edges of the back of the pontoons to keep from scratching the hound out of it. I put 3 layers of Gorilla tape on it Sunday after church on the maiden voyage, but you can see it got shredded in a hurry, and that's after only about 5 feet from the landing to the back of the truck.
Could I get 3M 3200 Adhesive to put on some stainless steel strips to bend around the edges to keep from scratching so badly? Or what other recommendations might you have? I am FOR SURE open for any suggestions. I bought this boat because it's 2/3 of the price of my Vibe, and I want to sell both my kayaks now that I have this boat. I just don't want to scratch it so badly.
2 pics show what's going on it soon, and 2 of them show the Gorilla tape in place after dragging just a few feet.
Thanks for any help you can give me! This thread is INCREDIBLY helpful and very addictive.
Barry
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Jeremiah 29:11-13 / John 3:16
J Francho reply :
What about a yoga mat?
mrstangblb reply :
On 5/7/2019 at 10:39 PM, J Francho said:What about a yoga mat?
That's possible, I guess, but it might be a little clumsy getting it underneath the boat.
J Francho reply :
I meant drag the boat across the mat.
mrstangblb reply :
On 5/7/2019 at 10:39 PM, J Francho said:What about a yoga mat?
BUT the Harbor Freight antifatigue mats I have in the boat covering the ridges in the floor might now serve a double purpose - I could pull them out and put them under it thanks to your idea. I have the smooth parts up in the boat - I could put them down and slide the boat over the rougher, slicker bottom.
Bassmobile reply :
This might fit your needs....?
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/keelshield-keel-guard?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductextensions&affcode_c=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6-GdseaM4gIVm7fACh0q1wSIEAYYASABEgJwF_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
mrstangblb reply :
On 5/9/2019 at 4:52 AM, Bassmobile said:This might fit your needs....?
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/keelshield-keel-guard?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductextensions&affcode_c=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6-GdseaM4gIVm7fACh0q1wSIEAYYASABEgJwF_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
I sure appreciate the link. I have seen that material, but wow - that’s 1/4 to 1/2 the price of the boat itself.
Bassmobile reply :
No problem on the link. I knew it was expensive but just thought I would throw it out there for you. I have never used it before, would definitely need to know before purchasing if it would solve the issue.
What if you made some type of two plank ramp system, maybe out of 2 x 6 boards, that you could back your truck up to the boat ramp and slide into the water out of the back of your truck, kinda like when motorcycles are in the back of a truck. You could lower and pull it back in the truck with a rope. Just another idea....
mrstangblb reply :
On 5/9/2019 at 9:28 AM, Bassmobile said:No problem on the link. I knew it was expensive but just thought I would throw it out there for you. I have never used it before, would definitely need to know before purchasing if it would solve the issue.
What if you made some type of two plank ramp system, maybe out of 2 x 6 boards, that you could back your truck up to the boat ramp and slide into the water out of the back of your truck, kinda like when motorcycles are in the back of a truck. You could lower and pull it back in the truck with a rope. Just another idea....
True. I’m going to try one thing first - I realized I had some big truck weatherstripping in the trash. I’m going to see if Gorilla taping a 12” strip over the back pontoon edges will stay on there a while. It’s at least 3” wide, and if it stays on it’ll be worth fooling with.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 5/7/2019 at 9:38 PM, mrstangblb said:Could I get 3M 3200 Adhesive to put on some stainless steel strips to bend around the edges to keep from scratching so badly? Or what other recommendations might you have?
I'm not sure where you're trying to launch. As for myself I avoid the launch ramp. Most of the areas I fish have some grassy or sandy area next to or in the vicinity of the ramp. If that's an option for you, I'd go with that. I keep my Raider in the water at home. However I still take it other places. My property is sloped so getting the boat to the truck is an up hill battle. To overcome that problem I started dragging it up the hill with my riding mower. The bottom for my raider is handling it just fine. It slides easily over the grass with out scratching it up, even with my gear still in it.
mrstangblb reply :
On 5/14/2019 at 12:24 AM, Hi-Powered Red Neck said:I'm not sure where you're trying to launch. As for myself I avoid the launch ramp. Most of the areas I fish have some grassy or sandy area next to or in the vicinity of the ramp. If that's an option for you, I'd go with that. I keep my Raider in the water at home. However I still take it other places. My property is sloped so getting the boat to the truck is an up hill battle. To overcome that problem I started dragging it up the hill with my riding mower. The bottom for my raider is handling it just fine. It slides easily over the grass with out scratching it up, even with my gear still in it.
At Lake Cunningham and Lake Robinson near Greer, SC, the accesses to the landings are concrete and asphalt. I know a fellow that lives on Lake Cunningham, but his back yard is just about straight up. I had a little hard time dragging my kayak through his back yard, so I'd probably have a time sure enough with this boat.
Murphy S. Law reply :
On 5/7/2019 at 9:38 PM, mrstangblb said:Could I get 3M 3200 Adhesive to put on some stainless steel strips to bend around the edges to keep from scratching so badly? Or what other recommendations might you have?
Maybe some roll on rhino liner type of coating you find at big box stores?
mrstangblb reply :
On 5/15/2019 at 8:00 PM, Murphy S. Law said:Maybe some roll on rhino liner type of coating you find at big box stores?
They say that stuff flakes off pretty quickly.
schplurg reply :
This is a little off the current topic, but I always thought it would be cool to mount a metal or wire "shelf" to the bottom of the seat where you can store a few Plano boxes for easy access. I almost bought a similar boat and still might and I thought that would be a cool mod.
That's all.
mrstangblb reply :
Dumb question from a new Sun Dolphin Sportsman 8' owner - I bought a Minn Kota C2 40 lb. trolling motor with a 36" shaft to put on the Sportsman. I just looked on the tag that was actually on the boat when I bought it, and it recommends shaft lengths of 42" to 52". Surely I haven't bought the wrong shaft length, right?
I haven't even opened the box for the trolling motor yet and haven't measured to see how well it will go on the boat, so I look forward to the expert responses. Thanks as always!
mrstangblb reply :
On 5/17/2019 at 12:05 AM, mrstangblb said:Dumb question from a new Sun Dolphin Sportsman 8' owner - I bought a Minn Kota C2 40 lb. trolling motor with a 36" shaft to put on the Sportsman. I just looked on the tag that was actually on the boat when I bought it, and it recommends shaft lengths of 42" to 52". Surely I haven't bought the wrong shaft length, right?
I haven't even opened the box for the trolling motor yet and haven't measured to see how well it will go on the boat, so I look forward to the expert responses. Thanks as always!
I see in the manual 36" is correct. Sorry about that.
On 5/17/2019 at 12:17 AM, mrstangblb said:I see in the manual 36" is correct. Sorry about that.
But I do plan to put the trolling motor in the back of the boat where the plate is instead of the front.
mrstangblb reply :
And dang - titling a 4' x 8'-7" 100 lb. plastic boat is harder to do here in South Carolina than titling a car! Unbelievable how complicated filling out everything is.
CrappyMan reply :
Thanks for this thread and all the great ideas! Usually fish alone and got the 10e because people want to go fishing but you know.... Back of truck hauling and I am over 50 so trying to keep it light. Saw many add wood floors but think I am going to use these instead. I can always use the wood later under it in a module design if necessary.
Any input, experiences etc. Just want to make sure the 1 inch causes no problems etc. Cant wait to get out on the water, 100 acre lake few miles away.
My other question would be the dolly. Was gonna make it simple since I can load off grass by waters edge most lakes here but also saw some say theirs (dolly) was too short (height)? I had planned on 10" castors from HF and 2x10 with eyebolts to strap. Any advice, suggestion are welcome.
TIA
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BXRC38F/?coliid=I166TWS4C7TD5I&colid=ZZ24JLUGVUUS&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it.
mrstangblb reply :
On 5/17/2019 at 9:52 AM, CrappyMan said:Thanks for this thread and all the great ideas! Usually fish alone and got the 10e because people want to go fishing but you know.... Back of truck hauling and I am over 50 so trying to keep it light. Saw many add wood floors but think I am going to use these instead. I can always use the wood later under it in a module design if necessary.
Any input, experiences etc. Just want to make sure the 1 inch causes no problems etc. Cant wait to get out on the water, 100 acre lake few miles away.
My other question would be the dolly. Was gonna make it simple since I can load off grass by waters edge most lakes here but also saw some say theirs (dolly) was too short (height)? I had planned on 10" castors from HF and 2x10 with eyebolts to strap. Any advice, suggestion are welcome.
TIA
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BXRC38F/?coliid=I166TWS4C7TD5I&colid=ZZ24JLUGVUUS&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it.
I got the Harbor Freight floor tiles for $7.99 - 20% the other day and they’re great!:
https://www.harborfreight.com/4-piece-anti-fatigue-foam-mat-set-94635.html
J Francho reply :
On 5/17/2019 at 4:04 AM, mrstangblb said:And dang - titling a 4' x 8'-7" 100 lb. plastic boat is harder to do here in South Carolina than titling a car! Unbelievable how complicated filling out everything is.
Come on up to NY. Heh...
NYWayfarer reply :
On 5/17/2019 at 9:13 PM, J Francho said:Come on up to NY. Heh...
It is a nightmare. Especially if you buy one second hand.
J Francho reply :
Or doesn't have a hull ID.
mrstangblb reply :
On 5/17/2019 at 9:13 PM, J Francho said:Come on up to NY. Heh...
I feel sorry for y’all for more than just boat titling. ???? My stepsister and her husband moved out of Highland Mills last year to NC.
Generalxchaos reply :
Can a person lay down in a bass raider 10e
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 5/26/2019 at 1:11 PM, Generalxchaos said:Can a person lay down in a bass raider 10e
I used an 8' X 20" Piece of plywood in the bottom of my Raider 10e. I could be off an inch or two on the width. The battery box takes up about maybe 18" from the stern. The seat crosses over but it's easy to move. So I'd say yeah you could lay in it. However, It might be a little narrow for your shoulders and hips if you're planning to use it layout boat to duck hunt out of. If I was at home I'd try it for ya. If you've got two weeks to wait......
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 5/14/2019 at 3:15 AM, mrstangblb said:At Lake Cunningham and Lake Robinson near Greer, SC, the accesses to the landings are concrete and asphalt.
After my last suggestion to you of launching next to the ramp. I've also ran into a landing that didn't have an option of launching next to the ramp. Unless I wanted to bust through 20' of Cat Tails. I dollied as close to the waters edge as I could then gave it a little shove. Slid really easy about its length till it was fully floating. As for a dolly I used fixed casters from harbor freight and a piece of 5/4 deck board, couple eye bolts and a ratchet strap. A 2x8 or 10 would be easier to get the boat sitting on. It's what I had on hand.
mrstangblb reply :
On 6/2/2019 at 12:44 AM, Hi-Powered Red Neck said:After my last suggestion to you of launching next to the ramp. I've also ran into a landing that didn't have an option of launching next to the ramp. Unless I wanted to bust through 20' of Cat Tails. I dollied as close to the waters edge as I could then gave it a little shove. Slid really easy about its length till it was fully floating. As for a dolly I used fixed casters from harbor freight and a piece of 5/4 deck board, couple eye bolts and a ratchet strap. A 2x8 or 10 would be easier to get the boat sitting on. It's what I had on hand.
I may have my solution ready now - I have used a C-Tug cart with my kayak for a couple of years, so I cut a piece of plywood a little more than 4’ wide, cut strap holes in it, and ran a ratchet strap through it so it will hold well. That should work well for me.
Leftymuk reply :
I think I have made some good improvements to my pelican.......holders for 6 rods...trolling motor...power pole micro anchor......small decking to hold battery box and 13 3700 Plano boxes.....anchor trolley....and a fantastically comfortable swivel seat
dlh2 reply :
Hey Leftymuk, love your boat, but it's not a Pelican, it's a previous generation Pond Prowler (see pics on page 118 of another nice one). I think I actually like that hull design better than the Pelican!
mrstangblb reply :
Leftymuk, that’s awesome!
Leftymuk reply :
God to know about the pond prowler thing.....wasn't really sure
Nola888 reply :
Because I've gotten so much insight from this thread, I thought I'd post a few pictures of my little project and offer any help to anybody looking to do something similar. I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out. Lemme know what ya think
CrappyMan reply :
3/4" workout mat is like plywood support without the weight. Depends on what you want and use it for. Trying to keep my weight down since I fish mud puddles and load in the bed of my truck. I do have a dolly tho.
mrstangblb reply :
On 6/6/2019 at 5:45 AM, Nola888 said:Because I've gotten so much insight from this thread, I thought I'd post a few pictures of my little project and offer any help to anybody looking to do something similar. I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out. Lemme know what ya thinK
Super nice! Well done.
Lonnie D A Uptegrow reply :
Made a few changes since you guys last saw her.
TheLazyAngler reply :
I bought a pelican bass raider 10e model: b 10 second hand. I cannot find the hull identification/serial number anywhere. The sellers were pretty vague which makes me wonder if it’s stolen or not. I’ve talked to pelican and their guidance didn’t take me there. Can anybody shed some light?
Possibly include some pictures or s video. Thank you in advance!
Matt Fisherman reply :
On 6/26/2019 at 1:52 AM, TheLazyAngler said:I bought a pelican bass raider 10e model: b 10 second hand. I cannot find the hull identification/serial number anywhere. The sellers were pretty vague which makes me wonder if it’s stolen or not. I’ve talked to pelican and their guidance didn’t take me there. Can anybody shed some light?
Possibly include some pictures or s video. Thank you in advance!
I just bought mine towards the back on the right side underneath the black rubber piece that goes around where the boat is stapled together you should have a hull ID/SN# little piece riveted in.
Matt Fisherman reply :
New owner of the Bass Raider 10e. Loving this forum so far. If anyone has a foot control trolling motor mounted on the front I would love to see some pics. Thanks! I love the 7 inch risers! Took her out last night for the first time.
Orrsome reply :
I too would like to see someone with a foot controlled trolling motor. I've done some research on the Haswing Cayman T but haven't pulled the trigger on it. Motorguide Bulldog appears to be a good option but they discontinued that model I believe.
John Walter Sewell reply :
Have you seen the troll king foot control for any hand steered trolling motor?
Orrsome reply :
I've seen the Troll King and looks like too many moving parts to me. That is just my opinion. I like the seamless look of the actual "foot" control motor. Again, my preference. They (Troll King) look pretty cool though but again not for me.
Southernfried reply :
On 6/4/2019 at 7:39 AM, Leftymuk said:I think I have made some good improvements to my pelican.......holders for 6 rods...trolling motor...power pole micro anchor......small decking to hold battery box and 13 3700 Plano boxes.....anchor trolley....and a fantastically comfortable swivel seat
Love your settup, looking at the Prowler myself, but where did you get that seat?
@reelChris reply :
How uncomfortable would the older 8' model be for 2 people to fish out of on calm water? There's one up for sale nearby.
dman reply :
On 7/10/2019 at 5:30 AM, @reelChris said:How uncomfortable would the older 8' model be for 2 people to fish out of on calm water? There's one up for sale nearby.
If you were to be taking it easy and fishing for sunfish or something - maybe, but not 2 guys actively Bass fishing, certainly not comfortably. I have the 8 footer and never brought anyone else out on it and couldn't imagine doing so, lol. you would have a great time by yourself though
Tuna reply :
Hi guys. I have a Sportsman 8.5 and have done many mods similar to what has been posted on this 120+ page subject. I have just one situation to ask about. I fish many small lakes in IA. The majority have concrete boat ramps and no other launching options. I would like some advice and/or photos of a dolly meeting these criteria:
- Lightweight and able to transport 200 pound loaded boat on dolly up to 150' away.
- Not too heavy at the bow to haul by a small man.
- Easily launched from concrete ramps without getting feet wet (I have slipped twice, not good!)
- Easily loaded without scraping up the plastic pontoons and without getting feet wet.
- Ability to break down so it can be transported in a 73" pickup bed.
I'm usually pretty good at figuring things out but don't want to burn up a bunch of materials if someone else has found an answer. I'll take some photos of what I've done including a rod, paddle and stake out pole holder. I have not seen the design anywhere and it works great! Thanks.
On 3/21/2019 at 4:44 AM, Ratherbfishing said:I paddle mine all the time-but just to supplement the trolling motor (when I'm in a hurry to get off the lake before the park gates close). But to rely JUST on paddles? It'll get you someplace but certainly not in a hurry.
I opted for an adjustable length, 3 pc. floating SUP paddle. I can stand or sit and still reach the water. Great for dislodging or retrieving lures also.
https://www.amazon.com/BPS-3-Piece-Alloy-SUP-Paddle/dp/B07DR8ZV4K/ref=asc_df_B07DR8ZV4K/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134194492&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9640096062417104577&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018574&hvtargid=pla-644161414222&th=1&psc=1
schplurg reply :
I saw a boat like this at the lake a few days ago. Although they are supposedly almost impossible to tip it looked very uncomfortable in all but the stillest of waters. Those two people were bouncing around like bobbleheads just sitting at the dock. It was windy and rough that day.
They seemed cool to me until I actually saw one on the water. I'd rather have a yak or a small aluminum boat, especially considering the weight of these things. However, on a still pond fishing solo it still looks pretty doable. But two people moving around in it? Not so sure.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 7/10/2019 at 5:30 AM, @reelChris said:How uncomfortable would the older 8' model be for 2 people to fish out of on calm water? There's one up for sale nearby.
I have a 10E theres no way I'd try to fish 2 people out of it. I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm simply saying I wouldn't do it. In my humble opinion both the 8' and 10' are one man boats. 200lbs and under the 8 footer is for you. Over 200lbs go with the 10 footer. Just my opinion don't freak out about it.
Dirt reply :
I’ve fished with others in mine multiple times (10e model). It’s not bad, seats back to back you each have a small square to stand on. Not ideal but always been a fun time
Chowderhead reply :
On 8/1/2019 at 5:42 AM, Dirt said:I’ve fished with others in mine multiple times (10e model). It’s not bad, seats back to back you each have a small square to stand on. Not ideal but always been a fun time
Same here, have a 10e and fish with two people often. At times can be a little tight, but still easily doable and safe/stable.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 7/18/2019 at 8:01 AM, schplurg said:I saw a boat like this at the lake a few days ago. Although they are supposedly almost impossible to tip it looked very uncomfortable in all but the stillest of waters. Those two people were bouncing around like bobbleheads just sitting at the dock. It was windy and rough that day.
They seemed cool to me until I actually saw one on the water. I'd rather have a yak or a small aluminum boat, especially considering the weight of these things. However, on a still pond fishing solo it still looks pretty doable. But two people moving around in it? Not so sure.
There is a huge difference with 2 people in them as opposed to 1 (especially 200lb adults).
I have a 10 ft prowler with a front deck. I usually remove the front butt-seat & stand to fish with zero issues with stability. I put the chair about midway of the boat to sit in when landing fish or working on gear. I am able to take 8 rods and 4 bags of gear and still have room to be comfortable. It is much more like a mini bass boat than a kayak ever will be.
I fish a small 100 acre lake that has many canal like coves, so while the wind will blow, it never creates rollers. These boats aren't designed to be out in big water, that isn't in their DNA.
waverider969 reply :
Anyone know how thick is most of the plastic on this type of boat? Can I use very short screws to attach light stuff (cup holders) to the top of the rails with out puncturing all the way through?
dlh2 reply :
You can't use short screws WITHOUT going all the way thru the plastic because It's only about an 1/8 of an inch thick. But, for mounting light duty stuff just use short screws about a 1/2" long and use 3M marine sealant/adhesive on the screw and flange of whatever you are mounting. You will be fine.
BigMoneyGrip reply :
On 8/9/2019 at 3:46 AM, waverider969 said:Anyone know how thick is most of the plastic on this type of boat? Can I use very short screws to attach light stuff (cup holders) to the top of the rails with out puncturing all the way through?
How about the command strips?
LonnieP reply :
On 8/9/2019 at 3:46 AM, waverider969 said:Anyone know how thick is most of the plastic on this type of boat? Can I use very short screws to attach light stuff (cup holders) to the top of the rails with out puncturing all the way through?
Yes. You can use screws as long as they’re above the water line and put a little marine silicone around the screw head. I’ve screwed down my casting deck, fish finder,Scotty transducer arm,cell phone mount and a couple other things with no problems
dlh2 reply :
I have both an old Bass Raider 10E and a new Sundolphin Sportsman. I have always run the motors on the back of the boats but I want to try a 30# on the front of the Sundolphin. Is it absolutely necessary to use a circuit breaker when doing this?
OCdockskipper reply :
No it isn't necessary, but you are risking damaging the motor or wiring if you don't. All an in-line circuit breaker is is essentially the weak link in the chain, so if something happens, it pops first, stopping any damage or fire.
On the Pond Prowlers, the wiring to the front of the boat is pre-run at the factory and includes a small breaker in the connection side to the battery. Is this not the case for bass Raiders or Sundolphins? If not, most any marine hardware or BPS should have the breaker you want.
dlh2 reply :
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll pick up an in-line circuit breaker just to be on the safe side because as far as I can tell neither boat has one in the pre-run wiring.
Matt Fisherman reply :
Bclark215 reply :
Howdy, I just purchased an 8 foot sun dolphin sportsman at a bass pro in Tx. I already had a 2.5 hp mercury outboard and a little (unknown thrust) manual deploy foot control trolling motor. I plan to build a deck and put both motors on the boat. I have lots of questions/ideas, but will try to limit it to the most pressing for now.
1. When I bought my boat at bass pro, they claimed they would handle the registration. I paid around $50 and filled out a form 143. Me and the cashier were both unsure on what the actual procedure was, but best I can tell, bass pro will send the pwd 143 form to tpwd, after which I can go get a title from the towd office? If anyone knows more on this process, please let me know. I'm more concerned about when this will happen, than if, as I was wanting to fish in the next couple days.
2. Has anyone stored their boat on its side, and if so did you experience any issues with warping? I need to be able to take up as little space as possible, and don't have the luxury if being able to instal a lift of any sorts. I was thinking of making a cart to hold the boat on its side and allow it to be rolled up against a wall.
I have been through a good portion of this thread, but can't honestly say I've been through all 121 pages YET... so if these are repeat questions or have already been covered, i do apologize. Thanks.
OCdockskipper reply :
For question #2, I believe more of the strength of the boat is front to back as opposed to side to side, so it may be better to store it vertically as opposed to on its side. I know that sounds counter intuitive, I am just basing it on how I see the boat flex when it is out of the water. I have turned it on its side as well as lifted it up lengthwise and it just feels more stable when vertical.
Now that i think about it, rather than trusting what I believe, it might be worth a call to the manufacturer. I could be way off & I would hate to cause damage to your new boat when the manufacturer recommends something else.
John Walter Sewell reply :
When I bought mine at Academy in TX I didn’t pay them anything for registration.
They sent the paperwork off and I had to wait for documents to come in the mail to get my title and registration at TPWD.
Academy gave me a printed temp registration that was good for 15 days. I stuck it in a gallon freezer bag and taped it to the side of the boat.
It all checked out when the game warden stopped me for a safely check the day I bought it. ????
I store mine on its side so I can fit it in a 10x10 storage unit. It’s been like this for a year and I don’t notice any issues from storing it on its side.
Bclark215 reply :
On 8/22/2019 at 7:40 PM, John Walter Sewell said:When I bought mine at Academy in TX I didn’t pay them anything for registration.
They sent the paperwork off and I had to wait for documents to come in the mail to get my title and registration at TPWD.
Academy gave me a printed temp registration that was good for 15 days. I stuck it in a gallon freezer bag and taped it to the side of the boat.
It all checked out when the game warden stopped me for a safely check the day I bought it. ????
I store mine on its side so I can fit it in a 10x10 storage unit. It’s been like this for a year and I don’t notice any issues from storing it on its side.
Hmm, I might have to call bass pro and make a quick trip to the tpwd office. I asked what documentation I needed to keep for myself/what further action I needed to take and was told "All I know is that you're supposed to pay $59 and fill out this form that I give it to the lady in the back" and of course the "lady in the back" was gone that day and couldn't clarify. I guess part of this falls on me for not knowing the registation process beforehand.
As for the storage issue, I'll definitely call the manufacturer and see what they say, but it's encouraging to hear that it's been stored in a similar way without issue.
fishcat reply :
I store my Pelican 8e vertically with a strap against the back wall in my garage. Then I can drop it into my Ranger pickup. Have not had a problem in 7 years.
Tuna reply :
First of all I'm 65 years old and I commonly camp "in a van down by the river." Launching a Sportsman 8 is not too bad using an extended dolly, but how do you get it recovered and loaded without a trailer on a boat (slippery) ramp by yourself? Posted this a couple months ago and wondered if anyone had an idea I haven't thought of. I do not want a trailer to store. Thanks.
BTW, I too store mine vertically resting on 4" polyfoam.
fishcat reply :
On 8/25/2019 at 7:44 PM, Tuna said:First of all I'm 65 years old and I commonly camp "in a van down by the river." Launching a Sportsman 8 is not too bad using an extended dolly, but how do you get it recovered and loaded without a trailer on a boat (slippery) ramp by yourself? Posted this a couple months ago and wondered if anyone had an idea I haven't thought of. I do not want a trailer to store. Thanks.
BTW, I too store mine vertically resting on 4" polyfoam.
If you can launch the boat on a grassy or sandy area, pull it up to level ground with your truck using a tow strap. Then lift one end onto the tailgate and quickly attach a rope and hook to secure it there. Finally, go to the rear of the boat and push it up into the bed. Sounds complicated but it's really not.
Tuna reply :
Thanks, I have the dolly to make launches and recoveries at kayak type launch areas. I am looking for solutions for concrete boat ramps that have moss or vegetation attached below the waterline.
WRB reply :
I haven't taken the time to read this very long old 121 page thread.
My late brother had one of these boats and made up a double sling harness with pulleys to lift the boat to his garage ceiling and lower down onto his pick up bed. He could do this alone easily. Bob also added retractable wheels to the transum that he used to launch the boat with. The wheels lifted up out of the water when in the water and worked good for him. I think West Marine has them.
He could lift the bow by hand and roll the boat into or out of the water, lift the bow onto the pick up tail gate, then push the boat into the bed by him self.
He liked his plastic boat, I didn't think it was safe.
Tom
OCdockskipper reply :
On 8/26/2019 at 1:19 AM, WRB said:...He liked his plastic boat, I didn't think it was safe.
Tom
It really depends on the body of water you are on. My Pond Prowler on Lake Forest is very safe & handy to get back into narrow areas. Same boat on Lake Mead is a deathtrap, you will capsize when the first set of rollers from the afternoon wind come rolling in, even if you hide out in a cove.
Small lakes where the wind does not create rollers and most of the lake is no wake zones are its wheelhouse. Using it outside of that is just using the wrong tool for the job.
Leland King reply :
hey guys what do I need to complete that positive terminal wire? pic attached
@reelChris reply :
What's the better choice between a lightly used late model pond hopper with 45lb endura Maxx motor and an older bass hound with 30lb Minn kota trolling motor, 2 stroke Evinrude, and trailer, if both were priced close to $1000?
@reelChris reply :
On 9/1/2019 at 1:43 PM, @reelChris said:What's the better choice between a lightly used late model pond hopper with 45lb endura Maxx motor and an older bass hound with 30lb Minn kota trolling motor, 2 stroke Evinrude, and trailer, if both were priced close to $1000?
While we're at it - add the bass tender 11.3 into the equation, also with older electric and gas motors, but no trailer.
@reelChris reply :
Wow. 121 pages and nine years of posts, and I killed the thread with two questions!
In hope of restarting this discussion, I ended up answering myself by going with none of the options mentioned above. I found an older Sun Dolphin 120 that came loaded with outboard, gas tanks, foot controlled trolling motor, battery, fish finder, life preservers and trailer. It has some tears in the seats, dings and ugly plastic repairs, but I'm pleased with the deal overall. That being said, does anyone know if cracks like these can be fixed? Someone obviously tried to hoist the boat by the rails and cracked the plastic where the rails insert on both sides.
FishingInSC reply :
On 9/9/2019 at 10:53 AM, @reelChris said:Wow. 121 pages and nine years of posts, and I killed the thread with two questions!
In hope of restarting this discussion, I ended up answering myself by going with none of the options mentioned above. I found an older Sun Dolphin 120 that came loaded with outboard, gas tanks, foot controlled trolling motor, battery, fish finder, life preservers and trailer. It has some tears in the seats, dings and ugly plastic repairs, but I'm pleased with the deal overall. That being said, does anyone know if cracks like these can be fixed? Someone obviously tried to hoist the boat by the rails and cracked the plastic where the rails insert on both sides.
I would think it could be repaired. I've never had to do it, but I'd say try JB Weld or go on you tube and look at videos on "plastic welding." Good luck and happy fishing!!
FishinDinks reply :
Anyone put kayak rail systems like yakattack geartrac on their plastic boats? If so how well did it work for you? I am think of mounting my transducer and fish finder on them.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
Hey there guy's and gal's. I've been away from the thread for a while. I've done quite a bit of fishing from the Raider. I must say, I love my 10E. No new mods keeping it pretty simple. 3/8" plywood floor with harbor freight anti fatigue mat glued to the wood and covered with gray outdoor carpet. 32lb minn kota on the front, group 29 deep cycle in the back and a Bigfoot switch screwed to the floor. I have a small garmin fish finder with a scotty mount for the transducer. A 7" seat riser and a comfortable seat. Just the basics. I keep the boat in the water. I have a small pond behind my house. The best mod I've done was adding a drain hole in the stern. I picked up a thru hull filling at West Marine used the correct size hole saw, a bit of 5200 and bam no more water in the floor. The reel pockets on the other hand... Can't have everything. I've taken the boat to several lakes in my area. The only problem I've run into is fishing flooded timber. Running one pontoon up on a submerged stump can be a bit unnerving. Add in wind and chop and it can make for a bad day. For the most part I pick my days, windy days I stay home. If the wind starts to pick up, I'm headed to the truck. I caught lots of fish out of my Raider and plan on catching lots more.
Ronaldo reply :
Hello all, I just purchased an older pelican 10e and the floor is bubbled upwards in the front portion of the boat. considering boiling water with towels. The bubbled area is considerably softer and more flexible than the rest of the boat so I’m somewhat concerned that its irreparable. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Angler102 reply :
I have the bass raider 10 E and I regularly have myself 5'11 200 lbs and my brother(same weight) and we get around no problem with a 40lb thrust minn kota and a large deep cell battery from walmart. I usually pack the boat with a large cooler, 4 rods, tackle box, and I have never had a problem. I would like to go faster, so I am going to get an outboard at some point..Maybe a 3.5hp Tohatsu/Nissan or 2.5hp Suzuki..not sure yet..
OCdockskipper reply :
On 12/28/2019 at 9:55 PM, Ronaldo said:Hello all, I just purchased an older pelican 10e and the floor is bubbled upwards in the front portion of the boat. considering boiling water with towels. The bubbled area is considerably softer and more flexible than the rest of the boat so I’m somewhat concerned that its irreparable. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
If the bubbling is just the plastic, I would install a floorboard made from marine plywood and covered in carpet. That will distribute weight more evenly across the bottom of the boat and not directly on that bubbling spot (as well as make the bottom of the boat look nicer aesthetically).
If it is more than just the plastic, if the structure of the boat underneath has been compromised, then I would say it is irreparable.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 12/28/2019 at 9:55 PM, Ronaldo said:Hello all, I just purchased an older pelican 10e and the floor is bubbled upwards in the front portion of the boat. considering boiling water with towels. The bubbled area is considerably softer and more flexible than the rest of the boat so I’m somewhat concerned that its irreparable. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
How big is the bubbled area? Most of the guy's on this thread have, some sort of floor in the boat. I personally have a 3/8" piece of plywood with harbor freight anti fatigue mat glued down and covered with gray outdoor carpet from Lowes. Very comfortable to stand on especially barefoot. I know this is not the fix answer you were looking for. But if you can can cover it. Outta sight, outta mind.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 4:34 PM, Angler102 said:I have the bass raider 10 E and I regularly have myself 5'11 200 lbs and my brother(same weight) and we get around no problem with a 40lb thrust minn kota and a large deep cell battery from walmart. I usually pack the boat with a large cooler, 4 rods, tackle box, and I have never had a problem. I would like to go faster, so I am going to get an outboard at some point..Maybe a 3.5hp Tohatsu/Nissan or 2.5hp Suzuki..not sure yet..
If memory serves me correctly the Raider is rated for a 3.5. With that said I'd be very wary of flex in the transom. These boats will flex a great deal with a gas motor. This is one time I will say less is more. Personally I wouldn't put much more than a 55lb TM on mine. Right now I'm running a 32lb Minn Kota on the front. I plan to up grade to a 55lb but I'm a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" guy. My trusty old 32 has been on several boats in the 20 years that I've owned it. It just won't die.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
On 10/5/2019 at 5:55 AM, FishinDinks said:Anyone put kayak rail systems like yakattack geartrac on their plastic boats? If so how well did it work for you? I am think of mounting my transducer and fish finder on them.
I used a Scottie mount for my transducer. I secured the mounting block to the rear motor mount plate. I simply pulled one of the bolts out. Went to Ace and got a longer bolt and utilized the existing hole. The block is very secure even thou it's only held on by 1 bolt. The arm attaches to the block and has a break away clutch that allow the transducer arm to kick up if it hits something. It does't self return but it's easy to push back down and your transducer doesn't get damaged.
Hi-Powered Red Neck reply :
Whats up Bass Raider fans? Well Christmas and New Years have come and gone. I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday season. Hopefully Santa filled all your fishing gear needs. I keep myself pretty stocked up on fishing gear so my Christmas list was short this year, at least in the tackle department. I did get a new reel, so now I need a new rod to go with it. LOL For the Raider I asked for a Millennium stainless boat seat, and Santa delivered. I am impressed with its construction and comfort. Now just so you know, me and the Pelican 10E and saw a bunch of fishing in 2019.
I got the boat for Christmas Last year. I've made a few basic upgrades that can be found on this thread back in February of last year. For a seat I was using a 7" riser and a cheap camo folding seat from Wal-Mart. I fished around 50 days last year and the seat was shot. I pulled it off and replaced it with the new Millennium seat. Put it in the boat and sat down. Wow what a difference. Only problem was with the 7" riser and sitting in the seat my feet wouldn't touch the floor. I pulled the riser out and was pleasantly surprised to know I no longer needed the riser. The seat Is high enough and much deeper. This lowers the center of gravity back down a bit. I'm still in a higher seated position than I was using other seat. Which was the cause of me using riser in the first place. I can sit and stand as easily as I could with the riser seat and I gained back the stability I lost installing the riser. I'll post a picture when I get back home.
Canyon reply :
You can raise the seat without using store-bought pedestals. Just add a short block of wood between the seat and the frame, and use longer bolts. Each short piece of 2x6 adds 1.5 inches of height. You don't even need to drill through the wood if you position it right. You might be surprised how a few inches of seat height raises the comfort level.
jeffh129 reply :
What does the Pelican Bass Raider 10e retail for ? I just saw one on the Walmart website for $1,299.00 marked down from $1,700.00. Is that a mistake? I thought Dicks sold them for about $650.00.
MN Fisher reply :
On 1/31/2020 at 2:28 AM, jeffh129 said:What does the Pelican Bass Raider 10e retail for ? I just saw one on the Walmart website for $1,299.00 marked down from $1,700.00. Is that a mistake? I thought Dicks sold them for about $650.00.
Dunno about DSG - but you can get them direct from Pelican for under a grand.
https://www.pelicansport.com/us_en/bass-raider-10e
J Francho reply :
Most places have them at $650
Matt Fisherman reply :
Neil Stevenson reply :
Finally took the plunge and picked up a Bass Raider 10E today. Sold a kayak last weekend cuz I just needed a little more room to move around. Have looked through here and picked up some awesome tips. Next steps are to put in some kind of lightweight floor mat and find a trolling motor & battery. No room to keep a trailer so I'll be horsing it in/out of the truck and hand launching by my lonesome; obviously keeping weight down will be a theme for me so I'll be somewhat of a "minimalist" and go with the basics. First decision is whether to mount the TM on the bow or stern. I see pros and cons for each. Either way, can't wait til I can get this beast on the water!!!
Tuna reply :
Recommend bow vs. stern. Pulling easier to navigate and ~15% more usable power than pushing.
Neil Stevenson reply :
On 2/17/2020 at 9:03 PM, Tuna said:Recommend bow vs. stern. Pulling easier to navigate and ~15% more usable power than pushing.
Tuna, good to know, thank you!
choppertime reply :
Does anyone use millennium boat seats? If so do they mount to the swivel plate that comes with the boat or do you need new plates. Also what's the preferred anchor system you use?
Neil Stevenson reply :
Hello folks, wanted to ask some super basic guidance on hooking up the trolling motor using the plug on the bow. For weight distribution I want to put the battery in the back so I can stay close to the front. I'm not an electrical whiz so want to make sure I'm doing this right. Got the 55 lb thrust motor. Is the factory wiring adequate to handle it or does anyone recommend rewiring with a thicker gauge? Also, is a 3 prong plug easily spliced into the motor's wiring with some shrink wrap connectors? Other recommended tips for putting on a plug?
choppertime reply :
Hi Neil, invest in the minn kota trolling motor battery box,its got your needs covered as far as circuit protection goes.....it has circuit breakers built in...plus extras.....I would take an ohm meter and see which wires are the positive and negative in the front connector and get the proper individual connector to attach wiring to front connector from trolling motor.....the included wiring is adequate for your needs.....wish I was there to help you out......I worked at car dealerships for 40 plus years.....you only need 2 wires as the battery is the only ground for electricity (plastic boat) positive and negative.......I dont have my trolling motor in the front or battery up there either....my g/f complains it's in her way lol....I'm retired now so I can leave her azz at work and go fish......send me a PM if you have questions or feel unsure about hooking up the trolling motor!
Neil Stevenson reply :
On 2/25/2020 at 10:42 PM, choppertime said:Hi Neil, invest in the minn kota trolling motor battery box,its got your needs covered as far as circuit protection goes.....it has circuit breakers built in...plus extras.....I would take an ohm meter and see which wires are the positive and negative in the front connector and get the proper individual connector to attach wiring to front connector from trolling motor.....the included wiring is adequate for your needs.....wish I was there to help you out......I worked at car dealerships for 40 plus years.....you only need 2 wires as the battery is the only ground for electricity (plastic boat) positive and negative.......I dont have my trolling motor in the front or battery up there either....my g/f complains it's in her way lol....I'm retired now so I can leave her azz at work and go fish......send me a PM if you have questions or feel unsure about hooking up the trolling motor!
Choppertime, very authoritative, I think I'll go and grab a battery box. I guess I'm not smart enough to figure out how to PM you, but I'll keep looking. I wasn't exactly sure what you meant about the connectors. But do you think this should do the trick? https://www.amazon.com/SEACHOICE-13751-Trolling-Motor-Straight/dp/B000N9MF92/ref=sr_1_18?dchild=1&keywords=trolling+motor+3+prong+plug&qid=1582653610&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-18
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